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Joy Taylor & LeSean "Shady" McCoy Get Real About Fame, Trust & Football 🏈 · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome Too Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so
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  Speaker 1: much for joining us today. If you haven't already hit subscribe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited today I'm having my friend Shady Lashawn
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  Speaker 1: Shady McCoy, my former co host and friends obviously future
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  Speaker 1: NFL Hall of Famer, two time Super Bowl champ, Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: all time rusher, hosts of Inside the Ring and Speak Easy.
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  Speaker 1: We have a great conversation and tell lots of stories
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  Speaker 1: of us working together and stories from his career, being
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  Speaker 1: a father, dating, all of the fun things. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to be a part of the show, of course,
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  Speaker 2: Get to that later.
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  Speaker 1: But first, sticking with the theme of me starting the
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  Speaker 1: show with something personal that I'm going through, I've been
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  Speaker 1: thinking a lot this past week about my father. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't talk about my dad much. I have shared
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  Speaker 1: on a couple different platforms how I grew up and
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  Speaker 1: some of the abuse that I endured as a child,
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  Speaker 1: and I've never really gotten into the specifics of my
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  Speaker 1: relationship with my father, or lack thereof.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really.
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  Speaker 1: Gotten into the specifics of my family's relationship with him
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  Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons, mostly being that I feel
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  Speaker 1: like in some way, me telling my story.
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  Speaker 2: Will tell others stories as.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and they don't necessarily want theirs to be told.
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  Speaker 2: But I realize over.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the traumas that I've endured
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  Speaker 1: in my life, that in some ways I can trace
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  Speaker 1: back the origins of my comfortability with the toxicity that
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  Speaker 1: led to them to my relationship with my father. So
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  Speaker 1: my father is still alive. We do not speak. We
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  Speaker 1: have spoken in many, many, many many years, and I've
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  Speaker 1: had different conversations with therapists, with friends that are close
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  Speaker 1: to me, with people I've been in relationships with about
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  Speaker 1: how I should repair that relationship. If you have a
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  Speaker 1: bad relationship with a parent, I think each individual has
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  Speaker 1: a different perspective on what they want from that relationship
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  Speaker 1: or how they want to have conversations. Or I have
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  Speaker 1: a very close friend that didn't have a relationship with
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  Speaker 1: his father growing up. He now has repaired that relationship
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  Speaker 1: and they have a good relationship working on better and
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  Speaker 1: you know, talking to him I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was really happy for him that he was able
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  Speaker 2: to do that.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't want to necessarily say proud because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the intricacies of what their relationship was. But
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  Speaker 1: for me personally, I do wonder how different of a
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  Speaker 1: person I would be if I had a relationship with
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  Speaker 1: a father. So not necessarily if I had a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with my father, but if I had a real, true
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  Speaker 1: father in my life.
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  Speaker 2: One of my best friend's fathers I kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of adopted, you know, in my late teens early twenties,
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  Speaker 1: but we aren't as close enough as I would need
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  Speaker 1: to be with a father that I could rely.
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  Speaker 2: On in that way.
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  Speaker 1: And in a lot of ways, not having a man
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  Speaker 1: in my life that I can call on in the
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  Speaker 1: way that you would call on a father has isolated
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  Speaker 1: me from men, has caused me to have a deep
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  Speaker 1: distrust for people. It's definitely formed some type of hyper
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  Speaker 1: independence and all of these things I'm definitely working on
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  Speaker 1: and I recognize in myself.
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  Speaker 2: But I think when we talk about, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Daddy issues, you always default to your relationships with men
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  Speaker 1: and your relationship with sex and not being able to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, form real bonds or have respect for men
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  Speaker 1: and will.
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  Speaker 2: Some of those things are true.
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  Speaker 1: I think those in some ways be the easily fixed
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  Speaker 1: issues when it comes.
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  Speaker 2: To having daddy issues.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll ever be a real whole
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  Speaker 1: person because I don't have that safety net with a
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  Speaker 1: man in my life, and I don't think a brother
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  Speaker 1: can fix that. I'm very close with my brothers. I
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  Speaker 1: have an amazing relationship with my mom. She's a wonderful
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  Speaker 1: person and gives me a sense of home that like
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  Speaker 1: no one else can. But the void of growing up
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  Speaker 1: in an unsafe environment, not knowing what the day is
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  Speaker 1: going to be one day to the next, almost sensing
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  Speaker 1: like peace and quiet in any kind of tenderness from
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  Speaker 1: your father as manipulation because you know that it can
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  Speaker 1: be turned on its head at a second notice to
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  Speaker 1: complete terror. I don't know how to properly contextualize how
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  Speaker 1: surviving in an environment like that could ever just switch
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  Speaker 1: off as an adult, And believe me, I've done extensive
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  Speaker 1: work to try and repair what was broken to me
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  Speaker 1: from a very young age. My first memory in life,
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  Speaker 1: like my oldest memory from the time that I was
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  Speaker 1: the youngest, was my mother running away from my father
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  Speaker 1: as he chased her around the kitchen table, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: hiding my younger brother and sister in my arms, and
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  Speaker 1: she's screaming at him not to hit her in front
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  Speaker 1: of us. That's my first memory in life. And so
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  Speaker 1: much of trauma is in your DNA. Obviously, it's passed
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  Speaker 1: from generations, and we know that that's a real thing,
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  Speaker 1: but it's also in how you're formed, and like what
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  Speaker 1: makes you feel safe, what feels familiar to you, and
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  Speaker 1: getting and breaking the chains of chaos that that kind
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  Speaker 1: of childhood put in me was very hard to do
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  Speaker 1: and I'm still working on it. But I also want
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  Speaker 1: to recognize all the things that I'm missing so that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not so hard on myself when I try to
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  Speaker 1: fix those things.
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  Speaker 2: So that's part one of the daddy issues.
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  Speaker 1: Rant There'll be plenty more, but that's what I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk about today. Speaking of fathers, but a good father.
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  Speaker 2: That's a terrible transition.
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  Speaker 1: Moving on to our interview, and so I would talk
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  Speaker 1: to my very good friend Shady.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, we got Shady on the podcast. My good
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  Speaker 2: friend Lashaw McCoy.
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  Speaker 1: Shady McCoy on Instagram, cut on Dime twenty five on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: and you can catch Shady on Speak Easy streaming live
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  Speaker 1: after NFL primetime games and the zones inside the Ring
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  Speaker 1: and tickets will be on sale soon for the Shady
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  Speaker 1: and Friends Gala on December sixth, of which I am hosting. Right.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody did a cart roll in the back flip when
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  Speaker 4: he found out that you were going to host it.
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  Speaker 2: Just so you know, yes, of course I was going
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  Speaker 2: to host it.
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  Speaker 1: Two time Super Bowl champion, all time leading rusher for
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, that's correct, Pitt Panther and dog dad
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  Speaker 1: to mama, Well, mama's not here.
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  Speaker 3: She could have came. She's great, she's very chilling, but
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  Speaker 3: I know that she's real calm.
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  Speaker 2: And you are also a father of two.
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  Speaker 1: Very complex person, Shady is He asked me before we started,
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  Speaker 1: how many personalities he has?
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  Speaker 2: I said one?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, But I think Shadey's a very consistent I think
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  Speaker 1: you're a very consistent person.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and honest. Consistent and honest?
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  Speaker 1: You are?
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  Speaker 2: You are honest?
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't well, the version I know of you is honest.
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  Speaker 2: Would you say you're honest with women?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes, that you know what's funny.
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  Speaker 4: Is one of the main things that women do love
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  Speaker 4: and appreciate about.
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  Speaker 3: Me is like, man, you're just so honest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that. All right. We start every
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  Speaker 2: show with a personal questions. See you have to pick one.
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  Speaker 2: Read it out loud, Kay, it's personal personal question.
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  Speaker 3: What's something success took from you that you didn't expect?
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  Speaker 2: What is something that success took from you that you
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect?
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  Speaker 3: What is something that success took from me that you
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  Speaker 3: didn't expect? You know? What? The the enjoyment out of.
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  Speaker 4: Success, Like you think it's so much joy and you
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  Speaker 4: think so much happiness, and a lot of people close
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  Speaker 4: to me, friends and all that, women, they took a
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  Speaker 4: lot of that from me. And I think because I
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  Speaker 4: was so successful at such a young age, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of them took a lot of that from me. So
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  Speaker 4: like the enjoyment of like, man, I made it, and
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  Speaker 4: then you start find out things and this and that,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, dang, I'm happy, right, but I think I
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  Speaker 4: was almost I was happier when I wasn't successful or
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  Speaker 4: had money, but at just I thought it would be better.
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  Speaker 4: So I would say that that's something that like people
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  Speaker 4: still your success.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like.
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  Speaker 4: If we really feeling I love you, you my boy,
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  Speaker 4: and whatever it is you she's my woman, Like you
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  Speaker 4: should be always super happy that I made it, because
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  Speaker 4: it's it's hard to make it out. And I think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people from like jealousy or just maybe
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  Speaker 4: thinking that I should do this form and so they
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  Speaker 4: took a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's something that success.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, being successful has been taken from
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  Speaker 4: me just from people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that we all aspire
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  Speaker 1: to different things, and when you reach a certain level
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  Speaker 1: of success, there is an expectation that everyone is going
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  Speaker 1: to be happy for you, that everyone is going to
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  Speaker 1: support you, or that everyone is going to stay the same,
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  Speaker 1: and I think there's just there's certain things you can't
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  Speaker 1: know until you do it right. Like people can give
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  Speaker 1: you all the advice in the world and be like, look,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have more problems when you get more money,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like cool, but I want those problems, Like
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  Speaker 1: I want the problems that that money brings. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not it sounds like you're being ungrateful when you say
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  Speaker 1: these things about success, but it's it's not for a
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  Speaker 1: lack of gratitude, Like you wouldn't give the success back.
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  Speaker 2: You wouldn't give the money back. You wouldn't give the the.
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  Speaker 1: Cars, the jewelry, the experiences, the ability to take care
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  Speaker 1: of your family, your kids, like the peace of mind
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  Speaker 1: that knowing that they'll never have to work if you
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  Speaker 1: know that your family's taken care of all.
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  Speaker 2: Those things for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a different there's a different way you
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  Speaker 1: have to walk through life.
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  Speaker 2: There's a different way you have to treat people.
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  Speaker 1: And it's I think it's it takes maybe your innocence away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. You know what I'll say though, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's a great one, because it does. I would
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  Speaker 4: say this though, I wish I would have been rich
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  Speaker 4: or successful later on, right because I was at twenty
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  Speaker 4: years old. I was in the NFL twenty years old,
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  Speaker 4: and like you know, like every decision you make is
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  Speaker 4: just because everybody's after this after that. Like for example,
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  Speaker 4: right now, when I'm hanging out, I'm doing things, Yo,
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  Speaker 4: I'm always thinking about damn, okay, make sure I'm doing
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  Speaker 4: so I won't get sued. I've been sued so much
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  Speaker 4: for stuff that I had nothing to do with. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: hold up, you suing me, but because they are around me,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even do nothing and nobody cares about that
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  Speaker 4: or or or if you you know, you would a
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  Speaker 4: girl and like maybe things don't work out their way
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  Speaker 4: the girl wanted or what she might have thought hanging
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  Speaker 4: out with me is.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be or you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'm like instantly scari like damn, I don't
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  Speaker 4: want her to like make a false lie up and
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  Speaker 4: now if it's not true, people don't care about that,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. They'll read something in the
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  Speaker 4: blogs and it's like now now I'm not playing football now,
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  Speaker 4: so what I'm doing TV and et cetera, and I
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  Speaker 4: want people looking at me a certain way. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: it's just it's crazy how I live your life now
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  Speaker 4: that you got some some paper and you famous, it's
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  Speaker 4: one of the hardest things to do. So imagine being
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  Speaker 4: twenty years old thinking like that, Yeah you know, you
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  Speaker 4: got college homies, you appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy. So it's like I don't even I don't
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  Speaker 3: even like it.
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  Speaker 1: Many great, I I got to, you know, be twenty
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  Speaker 1: and be a normal twenty year old. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: all those when did you realize that you were like
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  Speaker 1: in danger though?
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  Speaker 3: When? Like when like.
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  Speaker 4: Every time that so in high school or even in college,
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  Speaker 4: you have a disagreement with a friend, like family, you're
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  Speaker 4: get in an argument with a dud. Yeah, maybe I fight, right,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I argue a girlfriend. Maybe think we break up.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I learned that when once that stuff started happening. And
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  Speaker 4: now you try to get money from me to make
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  Speaker 4: it right. If I ruin my homeboy, we push each other.
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  Speaker 3: That's it right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, It's like yo, man, like yo, you you cut me?
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  Speaker 3: You are you? And now you're trying to sue me
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  Speaker 3: or for a girl.
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  Speaker 4: We you know, in college, you're coming over to my apartment,
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  Speaker 4: you're hanging out. You know what I'm saying. You we
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  Speaker 4: we we kicking it whatever, and things don't work out,
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  Speaker 4: We go all separate ways, we broke up. You gonna
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  Speaker 4: take your ass to your apartment or whatever you got
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  Speaker 4: going on. Okay, Now fast forward. Now I'm in the
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  Speaker 4: league now and you come into my crib right and
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  Speaker 4: you might be here for you know, you know how
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  Speaker 4: girls do you know y'all do y'all y'all start leaving
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  Speaker 4: stuff over there, so you just coming when you want
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  Speaker 4: to come, and now when we break up, you acting
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  Speaker 4: like it's a divorce, like well this Alanta, and now
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  Speaker 4: you want me to pay for your next spot, or
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this is so that was like my
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  Speaker 4: first role.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get that. Man, I did not get that, and
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  Speaker 2: then you get scared.
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  Speaker 4: And then you get scared though, because now it's all
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  Speaker 4: right because I got something to lose.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another.
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  Speaker 4: Part that that I think, like not dealing with people
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  Speaker 4: that are not being successful at a young age. You
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  Speaker 4: can do what you want for real because you don't
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  Speaker 4: got nothing to lose. But then when you successful, was like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: I got some loose from now you know that. So
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  Speaker 4: I watched girls or friends or family treat.
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  Speaker 3: Someone just like me. It's not successful differently.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean, Like they'll let him
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  Speaker 4: get away with it or okay, slap on the wrist.
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  Speaker 4: But now you want to comfort everything I got. You
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  Speaker 4: write me letters, you're threatening me. If I don't get this,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, shit.
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  Speaker 2: It's greed.
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  Speaker 3: It's greed.
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  Speaker 1: It's greed, and it's kind of heartbreaking because I know
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  Speaker 1: for me, it's really changed.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just changed. How I move. But it's changed my.
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  Speaker 1: Ability to like really feel comfortable around people anymore. I've
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've been in the public eye for a
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  Speaker 1: long time.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it.
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  Speaker 1: I say, where I go and all that, But like
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  Speaker 1: I just think of myself still as a person, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, recently, I just don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have that ability anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know now in a very real way that
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  Speaker 1: like I'm a target and I was always a target
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  Speaker 1: just being a woman and being a beautiful woman, and
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  Speaker 1: being a black woman, and like you know, traveling or
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  Speaker 1: you know, if I lived by myself or any of
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  Speaker 1: those things, Like I'm always on alert.
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  Speaker 2: But now it's like it's not just my physical.
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  Speaker 1: Safety, it's my like whole existence, like every single person
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  Speaker 1: I interact with, if it's even kind of a little
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  Speaker 1: bit negative, the anxiety of like fuck, what, like what's
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  Speaker 1: about to happen now? And it's really I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think it makes it very difficult. I see why
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people like why why really famous people
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  Speaker 1: date other really famous.
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  Speaker 4: I just learned that so before I would like I
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  Speaker 4: can't say my first celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: Person, you know what I mean, she's married.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Okay, but but I remember like this he wants
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  Speaker 4: to say this, But I remember like like messing or
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  Speaker 4: dating or whatever, and just it was like a fun
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  Speaker 4: yeah oh you know, just like yeah, well now i'm older, Like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: I don't date, true story, I don't date. No daddy bones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta have a job, a career. You have something
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  Speaker 4: to lose, because before like she's bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: Now I was like, no, you gotta have something to lose,
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  Speaker 4: gotta have a job. You you used to like the trick, Well,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I used to. Oh you still trick?
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  Speaker 4: I mean I think what's really tricking. I'm a I'm generous,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a cancer.
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  Speaker 3: You know that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, my mom my mom always told me, she said, son,
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  Speaker 4: that my mom was married for thirty eight years. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm possibly good, right, he says, son. A woman don't
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  Speaker 4: like a man that's not generous. It's not a gentleman,
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  Speaker 4: and he's broke. They don't like that. They don't like that.
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  Speaker 4: Own a dummy. She's always in the dummy.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably really probably keep me in school and all that.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, sound like, Yo, now I'm older, I'm thirty eight,
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  Speaker 4: thirty seventty sick.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty, so I'm thirty. You know what? What literally
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: when I turned thirty seven?
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Out of it's I don't know. I remember a game
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: when I'm forty. I'm somewhere between thirty seven and forty.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not forty yet, I know that. Am I thirty nine?
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty eight?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Thirty six?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: How old are you?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Thirty seven?
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: How old is shady?
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Thirty seven? Thirty seven? Okay, thirty seven?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, so a gentleman, generous.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Generous gentleman, no dummy, no dummy, and not broke, not
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: broke those her things right.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: And I get older, I'm like Dann, I was right
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: because it's the same thing for them though, And now
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I'm older, I just realize that, Like ya, I can't just.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Date you because you're just beautiful. I guess what is that?
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: And and I don't do no random sex.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm too, I'm too scared. I gotta know you
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's very mature of you.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: But that's easier said than done. I mean, ask a
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: lot of guys. It's just you know what I'm saying
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: here today, going tomorrow.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it still could you could be that too
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: if you get the wrong one.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I ain't sticking like that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a romantic I mean you've talked to me
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: about this before though. I remember when you started to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: go through this change, you had a couple incidents where
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, it might be time to start messing
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: with women that have a job.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: When a girl was trying to run up with my conda.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I did you if you want to share that story
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you I did not say that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I was keeping it vague.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: But Mayam, I was the victim equivocally where the victim
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: is concerned for you, I don't know if you should
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: share it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Should you share this story? I don't know if you
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: want to shore this.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I just I just you know, nice young lady.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You know she was not a nice young lady looking. Okay,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that's not the same thing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: That's true. Now, you're right. She wanted she want a.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Bad person, terrible person. She's a bad person. You're a
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: bad person. The fuck are you talking about?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Wherever you are?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: You?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: A bad person?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Unstable person.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I won't say her name, but I don't know who.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: She is at all. Did I know what she did?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And that is an unstable thing to do?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Well, she you know, we broke up. We're we together.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Technically I don't know that we was together, but this
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: is this is old though.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: But anyway, we was. I think we were together. I
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: think we were together. And I was like, you know what,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: it's probably better. It's not you, it's my line. It's
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: not you, it's it's more me. I can get myself together,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So we broke up and
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: keep it a long story short. She just kept calling,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: kept calling, Keip calling, and she just somehow I'm sleep
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: It's like one am, and somehow she came up in
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: my condo.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Was so scared, like like as a rob.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, take it every like, it's you
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: and I. How'd you get up here? And I guess
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: they let her up whatever, So but I was scared though.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Now I was scared. I was scared for a second.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: He's drastically underselling the drama of that's it's so crazy. Yeah,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: it's really not okay, Yeah, but you you shouldn't.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You should definitely stick with this change. I think it's change.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: The worst part though, is that we laid there like
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: nothing ever happened.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Now you you are also unstable. You also need help.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: The reaction to someone breaking into your home is not
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to then let them into your bed.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: That's that's not okay.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Well I was already in my bed.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we know you were in your bed. It was
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: your home, and she jumped in there and got comfortable.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: But women be having powered, women's sparing the men. They
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: got powers over it because.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: She just yes, we know, breakfast next.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It was like that never happened, and she should if
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: it's the least she can do.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: She's gonna break into your own We've done for like
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: three months though, So you can't just like, you.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Know, it's that stories and nuts. Yeah, so you know
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you don't. You're not dealing with her anymore. You want
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to get married, I do, So what steps are you
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: taking to it?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Well? Why do you want to get married?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: First of all, that's just what I know. I've been married.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I mean my parents were married for thirty eight thirty
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: nine years.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been close married?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Nah?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I never like.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Looked at a ring or like had a conversation with
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: someone like we're you gonna get married?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Kind of not really I don't want to, no, no, nah, So.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: What makes you feel like you're ready to get married.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Now we're tired.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: We're tired, yeah, tired of the streets.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're tired of the streets. Yeah. I just no,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think that my son's getting older.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I have a daughter, and I don't want to grow
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: up like they think all this great things are their dad, right,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: because they break down, Like especially my son, he knows one.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: He's bragging and it's like, I'm running around here. This
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: tricking at fifty is crazy, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: And they get looking young, He like, dang dad. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: don't want to just do that, and I want to
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: show him out to be a man. And my daughter,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I look at her where she looks for me.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: For every answer, I'm gonna call my dad. That's her thing.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: I'm calling my dad now she's seventeen or thirteen, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I'm running around here and still I ain't trying to
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: do that, you know. And I come from a loving background,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: so that's what I know. That's what I always wanted
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: that though I think his problem was my trauma, because
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: you know, I get my therapy twice a week. Is
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: not being a trust since I've been twenty. I've been
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: on and I've been dealing with like older women, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dang, because she really like I'm twenty, you
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: you thirty two?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You like me because it feels like you really like me,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: but I know in my head like you kind of don't.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So you were a wayan dealing with an older woman.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a great This will really traumatize me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: My favorite rapper and favorite person of all time.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Do you know what this?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I'm really a little afraid for you to.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: It's fifty cents.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm a hugelycent, like huge, right, but how twenty
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: twenty one, I first got to the NFL right our
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: bag a super baddie. Oh know, she's nice. She was nice,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: but she was famous. She was famous, she's on a movie.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: She don't talk of stuff, and she was looking out
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: for me, like no, not looking out, but like take
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: me to dinner.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You know he was dating. She was old older, she's
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: way older than me. But she was bad to Eric.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, damn, I messing with such and
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: such and I was like, damn, why do you never
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: invite me to like Thanksgiving?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Or why do you whatever?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: You know what man was asking questions and she would
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: never even like entertain it. I guess I'm twenty, so
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: she's playing with me. But she had like some she
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: was getting some award or something she was doing. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: was all about to go with you. I can't because
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the pr and all this stuff and I'm a celebrity
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: and she couldn't. She was saying, basically like in a
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: celebrity world, you can't do that. You gotta right just
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: telling me this. I'm all right, I get it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I get it. And then I see her with fifty six, like,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: oh kill me. I feel like it's such a dummy,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Like yo, so you know that you know that did
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to me? Yeah? I just it just turned it right.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: What's like a good dude that turned back? Yeah?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Just just you know, I mean, just going crazy. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: ain't that a crazy story though, same story talking about
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you can't take me to none of your events.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: How long were you guys seeing each other?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I met her in what New York? I don't know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: like three months?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean this is the this is the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: thing about y ends that why I like a lot
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of people talk to me about dating younger men and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, like, I don't, it's not really, it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: not for me.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I can't go like not twenty twenty is insane.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: But but if you had to though about twenty five.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Four, I don't have to do anything, well.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Not half.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: But if you if I said, hey, you have to
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: date somebody young, what's the number?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I would not date someone younger than twenty five, but
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I probably like twenty six. But twenty five to me
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is at least for me as a woman, twenty five
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: was a very like significant growing up year for me.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I know, you know, men kind of mature a different age,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but I mean, think of the difference between you at
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: twenty and twenty five, Like.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: That's she could have never sold me that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the story. That's a big difference.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Twenty you are you're still I mean, you're not even
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: old enough to drink, right, So yeah, she got you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: A little closer.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But pr team said I can't do that. I said,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I get it, babe, I get it, you know, I mean,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I'm so dope, like, I get it your pr a, babe,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But no, listen, I think it's important that you recognize
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that was dramatic for you. Because like, that's a much
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: older woman. She is in a different position in her career.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: She is she's got all the moves down, which which
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: we do. Women mature fast of the men anyway, but
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: certainly an older woman dealing with a younger.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Man, she she put the put she put the thank
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: thing on you. Hm, yeah, yes you did.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, But literally since that moment, you haven't been
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: able to trust women.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I trust you know some women. I just uh,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: as far as in the back of my mind, I
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: don't like, what.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Is it that you don't trust, like when you think
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of like the thing that you don't trust in someone
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: when you're thinking of like a long term relationship.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I see everything you tell me. I don't truly believe
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: everything you tell me. For one and then two is
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I think another reason is because I've done so much
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: wrong as far as like when girls got boyfriends, I
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: don't know. I've never messed with a married woman. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: believe that God will never forgive me, so I never
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: do that. But these girls, man, I got boyfriends. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: think boyfriends is super popping and famous and rich and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: all that. And he don't even know that you're coming
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: to see me in his car that he brought you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: So now it's like I don't see the other side
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: of him.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: If this dude's woman can cheat on him, I know
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: why I can Wellever.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, everyone can cheat on everybody, but it's the
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: it's the feeling part.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Let's use an example, and this is not true. It's
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: given like like like Floyd mayweathers given. You know, if
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: a girl can guard her and cheat on him, she
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: gonna definitely get the next Anything's possible what I'm saying.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Right, don't you think there is a certain like there's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: a certain headspaces that people are in where they would
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: behave like that way.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I just noticed that every time I see the girl
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: on social media, on on different media platforms, they look happy,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: like you know what, like a girl would send me
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: goals and she don't even know. I'm really you know
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I'm messing with her, So stuff like
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: that is like you can't you can't trust No, you
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: can't trust these girls.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have to trust somebody.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying I'm getting better, like I'm dating better.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm older now, so I've been a little better.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: But what what what is something that you feel like
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you need in order to trust someone?
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: A real friend, like real real, like this is my
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: homie for real.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: One thing you told me I remember. I don't know
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: if I said other job or not, but he was
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: like marriage is hard, right, but it's you can do it,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: but you just got to wake up every day choosing
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: that person. And I'm like, that's real. I'm thinking about that,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Like I can go anywhere I want. I could, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I gotta choose you. And it's like I gotta do
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: everything in the right way to do that. So for me,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: you gotta be somebody that I like, somebody that's funny,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: somebody that's I like to be around.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And that's hard to find.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It is hard to find. I mean marriage is a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: very difficult thing. I The reason I say that is
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: because like you can't wake up tomorrow like I'm not
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a parent, Like whether even if you weren't involved in
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: your child, Yes, that's still your son, that's still your
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: daughter that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: He kiss.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: But even still, like even if you weren't involved, you've
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: been raising them like you denied them. It doesn't matter.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You're still you still made them, you're still their father.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: But you can divorce and that's no longer your wife
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: any second. And you, guys both have to choose to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: stay together, even if you fucking hate each other, even
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: if you're fighting, even if one of you is not
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: healthy or one of you picked up a terrible habit
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like you if you really want to be together for like.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: The rest of your life, that's a choice.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: It's not and it's not even I think when I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: think of commitment now, in a lot of ways, it's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it's scary for all the reasons you're saying, like it's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: hard to trust people and in certain spaces if you've
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: seen too much like I mean, obviously I've seen a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: lot of crazy shit too.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I know what people are capable of.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: People evil are here, Yeah, they are, they are, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: if you are.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons why I struggle with relationships.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Is I think that I have a bad I have
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a bad ticker. Like the people that I have truly
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: been really vulnerable with, not all, not all. I've had
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: some amazing relationships as well, So I won't say all
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: in anyway. But I have also had been extremely vulnerable
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and open with people who were really evil and like that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: It's hard to come back from that because you know
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: what people are capable of, and you know the feeling
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of being being soft with someone who is trying to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: destroy you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: That's hard to get over.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So that's why when you ask me these questions, it's like,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: it's hard to just date. But I found I'm dating
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: right now. You know, nice little girl, she nice, nice,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: nice personality, she got a job, shot a career.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she educated and graduated, got degrees. Like okay, you
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, I'll just off the checklist.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: But it's like, it's funny how we joke about that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: But like ball players don't even ask them questions, what
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: is it?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: What that's different from athletes from like, because you've been
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: around a lot of different types of famous people, what
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is different from athletes and like rappers or actors, Like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: what is it about a comedians? Like what what is
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it with athletes that that separate you guys in the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: in the famous.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: But as far when you say you separate or its
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: different like as far as what like like in our
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: craft or what do you ask.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Me, like how you move?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think we all move insane. You know what
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is like.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, okay, so I don't think. So it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a little different.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying is.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: We've like I would say.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: A lot of athletes get married young or or or
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: will get married.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, okay, first of all, we're all gonna
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: cross and have the same girls. She's in your section today,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: and then she's going to be at this rappers tour
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: and she's gonna be you know what I mean. So
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: we always mess the same. But the difference is, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: think athletes are held to a higher standard.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Like you to college. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: you're looked at as like a.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Like an ambassador for the city.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the billionaire company you're representing that that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: You know, you're a role model.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: If I'm a rapper, I could I could say b F,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I could do I could just say that I want
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: a second middle figure out the any that I want
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: and it don't matter because you're like your own brainer.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: You're your own owner. So it's a little different.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: And like you know, you go to college, right and
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: you play college ball, and you're on TV and then
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: you have that type of training. You know, were some
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: of these dudes from rappers that I know some of
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: my friends, is like they from they from the streets too, right?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: But is this they they have to like do nothing different,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So like, for example, like
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of the greats the Goats, right they married though,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: like Lebron's, the Hobies, the Jordan you know what I'm saying.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: The Peyton Manning Tom Brady, well, you know yeah, but
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in like rap like like future Future ain't married eighteen kids.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: You know, I get his name, Boots he gotten you
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: know what you got? Like, It's just it's just different.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of crossover to your point, and even
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: now I think more than ever because all these different
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: brands and spaces are coming together.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: But that's a that's a good point.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You are, you're coming almost like from a more corporate
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: space as an athletes, and you have different different expectations.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Speaking of being an athlete, you.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Are, you're nominated come on for the Hall of Fame
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: list will be cut down to fifty in the coming weeks.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about? I mean, you're going to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: go into the Hall of fame.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It's just when. How are you feeling about it?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I feel good. I like the competition.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I think that if you just look at numbers, you
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: look at how I did it. When I did it,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I got a chance fifteen thousand yards. You know, all
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: decade running back, all pros and program have all those
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Russian titles. Right, A lot of guys that's in the
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: in the Hall of fame. Someone dos ain't better than me, right,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: and and number wise too so but we'll see though.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, they may throw Alma's weight. So I don't
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: feel bad about it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: But what was your relationship like with the media when
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: you were playing.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I was good with the media.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I like to meet, I like to talk like the smile,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: like the I like to talk shit, you know. So
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I was always good with the media. I never like
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: treat them bad or rejected interviews, you know. And I
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: never heard from nothing I did. I played bad. I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: gonna talk about it, you know. Yeah, And but I
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: think I should get in. I think I will get in.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get in.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I don't want to wait too long, because it's like yo,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: if I wait too long, I ain't even like you
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: know what it was the next brother.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: They're not going to make you rate that long. It's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: what have you thought about, like when you got nominated?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Have you thought about what that's going to feel like? Though?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Because you you have two Super Bowl rings, you are
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: an all time great, you're in the you know, Philadelphia
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Eagles Ring of Honor. Yeah, like so, but this is
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the ultimate thing because I remember when Jason, when Jason
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: was nominated and I knew he was going to be
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: first ballot, but it's you know, I think for for athletes,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: especially when it comes to like the moment of finding
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: out if you're going to get in or not. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: he's so humble, like he didn't think he was gonna
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: like of course he's getting in for his spout, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah I tell you that, Yeah he did, he did.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: He's he but that's how he always is, like he's
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: that's just how he is.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: And part of me is like it it doesn't matter
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: like you're a Hall of Famer, you're not a Hall
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: of Famer. I think when it becomes with stories, when
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it's like t O where it's like okay, like he
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: needs to be in, don't don't don't make this a thing.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: He is a Hall of Famer. But like, did you
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: think about what those emotions are gonna be? You're gonna cry.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna cry, but you knows what's crazy you are. No,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: But I ain't think about it like that until Andy
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: re hit me up, because people just hit me up, yo,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: and the stuff you said to me, and I'm like, man,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I always tell people this.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: We we love our fans.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I love my fans, you know, but nothing hits you
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: more when like your peers or or people that you
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: respect the most.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: And Andy hit me.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Up says, hey, hey kid, congrats. He was like, yo, you
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. He said,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: for you to be such a great player and a
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: great teammate and do things that wasn't expected because coming in,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: nobody expected me to be all that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: You you know what I'm saying.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I remember Brian Westbrook was like the guy and it
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: was all the media was like trashing me, just saying
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: like I was had like they said, had a little
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: boy body.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: That really that really killed me. That killed you little
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: boy body.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: And I know it because the way you say it, you.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Still remember it, like what but it was crazy, you
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: like in the weight room, like, yeah, is now I'm
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: trying to all his workouts. But they asked us, hey man,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: you got a lot of you know, missing pieces, you
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and you kind of refilled them,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: but not really. And they said all these different positions,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: he said, and you lost Brian Westbrook and Sean mccourty's
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: and that third he said, all the positions that we
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: that we just refilled. That's the position I'm least worried about.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: And when I was twenty, that hit me, like, damn you,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: you're really feeling me. And then when he said it
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: and he said the same thing for the Hall of Fame,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: it touched me because I'm like, yo, if you've seen
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: all these players, you've seen all these different players, you
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: had you coach, coach against them, for you to feel
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: like that about me, that I'm one of the greatest
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: if you've seen you know that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: That touched me though.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, Hall of Fame's gonna come for sure,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: and I ain't gonna cry, but I'm definitely going to rejoice.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I cried crazy and I never cried.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I was boohoo, and all the video I'm crying in
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the video immediately.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I'll show it to you.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I immediately started crying in the video because it was me, Jason,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: his two sons, Tom Garfinkel, president of the Dolphins. Natt
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was there too, in a videographer. And you know, the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: boys were the boys were like preteens, but like I know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they know they watched
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: him play, but yeah, they know how good he was.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: But like to know, like where we came from, what
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: he went through in college, like what we went through
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: as kids like him, you know, having to make the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: team and get I was there when he got when
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he went to the Jets, like him being in in DC,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I just I know the injuries, Like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: when you know how hard someone works to be included
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: in the conver like you are forever the one of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the greatest players to ever play. Like that's what the
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame means, specifically the NFL Hall of Fame,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: so like it ain't they don't have no low standards
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: for nothing, And.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: It's the NFL been around for years. Yeah, you put
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: me in the Hall of Fame, Like that's.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Your speech is gonna be funny, Yeah, you have to
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: practice it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was jason'speech pretty good.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Jason was, yeah, great, he's a great speaker. Yeah, he
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: had he had a great speech. It was it was
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: really nice. Who who would you? Who would uh introduce you?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't think of that part yet. Yeah, I ain't
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: think of that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: He had. Jimmy Johnson.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: That's a great one. Damn. That's great.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And that kind of like takes away anyone being mad
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: about it because.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: It's like Jimmy drafted him, you know.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: But Jimmy, that's a great one though.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, you have coaches you do it. Yeah, I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: think about these things.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably coach uh maybe coach wantstead h shout out.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Coach once said, now you won't see me cry.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I started talking.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: About him, Yo, I love Coach One said, ain't.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Nobody burning him though? I got you know, I'm Dave.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a call though, because because he
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: really saved.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: My life how she shot make me crow?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: So in high school, I was like an all American,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Like I was super cocky, you know, and I remember
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: what pet would come to see me.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, Coach Pitt, I'm going to USC,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going one on school, you know that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: And I never would deal with him, and then I
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: get hurt and everything changed with from like seventy eight scholarships,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: so I only had like four left and Pitt was
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: one of them. And coach wan staid, he said, listen,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: you're an NFL type of guy, so I can get
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: you there. And he was like, I want to give
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: you a chance to regain your name back because they
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: got so bad.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I committed to Miami in high school. I brought my ankles.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: So I went to this prep school to rehab and
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: get myself back together. And they had another kid going
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: to Miami running back. Now he was really really good too,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: but he won't burying me. But he was burying me
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: at the time because I'm hurt. And the coach would
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: coming there and they won't even tell me they was there,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: and they would go see him. Now I'm a five
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: star All America. I'm like, yo, ho can how dare
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: y'all do me like that? So I said, I ain't
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: going to Miami, man, y'all playing around. So it's at
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Penn State and it was Pitt. I think like Virginia
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Tech or somewhere, and then brush, Pieceta, Joe, Pat turn On.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: But he just didn't feel like I was a Pitt
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: State type of guy. I work backwards hats. I told
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: you I loved fifty cent. I had the fifty cent
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: jerseys on and all that. You know, I had to
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: do rags. I ain't like that cool, get it, I
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: ain't your god.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: But Wanstead then judge me none of that. They said, Yo,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a chance to get your name
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: back on the visit. I'm lying, I want to a
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Penn State visit. And this is why good dads matter.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I said, you know what, patern I'll think I'm this
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: type of dude. I'm gonna show him I ain't never
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: been no trouble, you know what I mean? Because he
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: was saying like he gonna give me extra hours of study,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: hall all this crazy stuff. And my mom she wasn't
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: feeling it. But I said, you know what, I'm.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Anna show him. I'm a good kid.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: My dad's hold up, you told Pitt that you're gonna
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: give him one more shot, one more visit. He said,
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: we won't lie. I said, all right, dad, So I
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: go to Pitt and I loved it. Everybody that was there.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: It made me feel like welcome me, embraced me, and
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I and I committed there. And then when I came there,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: he said, look, you ain't starting yet, but I'm giving
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: you a chance to get everything you once had before.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: And and everything worked out, you know, but one stay
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: was real with me from day one.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: He got a great wife. You know, good dude, man.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I truly because I think about like if I didn't
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: go to Pitt, or if he ain't give me that chance,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: like what would have happened to me?
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? People always think of a
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: success story like oh but shoot.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And then when I was gonna leave, I left. I
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: only did one year and a half semester pit. So
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I did the two seasons and I left because I'm
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the prep school. And when I was leaving, he said,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: every coach, make me stay like I want you to
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: stay because that two more years left. He said, you
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: know what, We're gonna meet with the NFL teams. They
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: say good things, gonna let you roll. So one of
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: the NFL teams was kind of like, ah, like he's
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: gonna be a late late first round there, maybe second round.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: And and he said, you know what, you have nothing
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: left to proven, pit go to the league. Coaches won't
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: tell you that this ain't LSU, this ain't UH Georgia
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: where they get all these great players every year. For
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: him to tell me, and I was like, damn you
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: you really care about me? Think about He's saying like, yo,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: go to go to the NFL, and and I did
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: and everything. I always think of Coach Watson like, oh,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: g really looked out for me, you know.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's he's a great person.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's made an impact on a lot of
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: people's career. I mean he was. He was big with
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Jason too. He was there when Jason UH went into
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the into the hall. So he's just the best. Shoutout coach.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: We're gonna send him this. Yeah, he's a great person.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Tell us about UH coach Reid.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Mm hm, he's another one. Loves me, Yes he does, nah,
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: ajre he's special too. I remember when I first talked
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: to him, He's all right, kid, you gonna come to Philly.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: That's when he called me and I was like, yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I'm coming to Philly, coach, and he was just telling me,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: you know, I work hard.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: This then and the third i'll see you soon.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: And I remember meeting him in and I was so excited, right,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: and then I remember after the draft stuff and we
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: got to like real practice.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: He ain't talk to me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, you're an actor though, because he was
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: loving me, right, and then I get here and you
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: ain't even really speak to me.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: But he don't talk to rookies. That's his thing. I ain't.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: You gotta earn it. So once I like my secon year,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I became really really good. We was tight. Like I'm
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: talking about he gonna hate me for saying this, but
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I used to go to his little his beach house
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and hcause he's from LA and I would go to
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: his I think Santa Monica. I think anyway, I was
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: hanging out there nights on them. Look, you can go
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: in the backyard or the back door. You go to
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: the beach, like the boardwalk. You know, you got that paper,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: so I remember this. You know, I'm just hanging out,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: just hanging out all them. I'm like, man and and
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Aty Reid. He an honest dude, honest. I remember I was.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I started getting cocky again, feeling myself and I did
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: an interview and I was like dissing all the other
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: running backs in my draft class. And he called me
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: up on the office said, hey, what are you doing.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: What's going on? I said, what's up? Coach? You know
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: working out? How you doing?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: So?
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Hey, come to the office next you know, next week
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: or next day. I said, all right, bet when I
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: get there, I'm thinking about to just you know, just
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: talk to me like normal. He said, Yo, don't you
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: ever disrespect the team and yourself like that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: It's like a sixty piece. I did.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: And he was like, you know, we take pride and
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: playing hard and respecting your teammates and your peers and
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: excited herself. You do yourseff like that, I'll bench your
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: ass and he don't even curse. I'm okay, coach, all right.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: But ever since, like just meeting him, and everything's been,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: it's been great, Like even now we still text and talk.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: You know, ain'ty red.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: I remember my my first one, my second contract, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: had youre Rosenhaus and Drew can be a shark, you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: And I think we were fighting over like I don't know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: two million dollars or something like that, and he called
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: me up. They said, man, bring your ass to the
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: to the to the office and we're talking and and he.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Said, what what you want?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: What's gonna get this thing done? Because we're fighting over
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: with what's gonna get it done? And I told him
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: and all that, and I got eighty five percent of
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: what I wanted and that was it. And I'm like, damn,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I could have been did this, you know, But that's
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: what type of person he is. Like when Tyreek Hill
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: left the Chiefs, he need to sit him to anywhere
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: like they try to send me TOI Kelly try to
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: send me to Buffalo to die. He said, Yo, I'm
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: gonna give you a chance where you want to go.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I knew we were gonna get Kelly.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Do you get I'm saying no like that, that's your
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: roal coach, Like I'm gonna trade you right because the
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: money we can't pay you.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: But look, I want you to be happy. Though. I
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: respect stuff like that.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's how you should handle You
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: can't handle every player like that, but I do think
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: that's how great players.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the NFL isn't. It's a business.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I always like whenever we're talking about sport, professional sports specifically,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: but even kind of now you know with nil, it's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of college sports, there's no real loyalty, Like
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: there doesn't need to be that much conversation about loyalty.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: But loyalty is very.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Subjective when it comes to professional things, but how you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: treat people is not subjective, like the baseline of respect
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: conversation honestly, Like, I remember there was a situation.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of butcher the story a little bit.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: It's been a while, but it was like the Marlins
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: owner basically told this player to buy a house and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: then the next week traded him. And it's like that
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: type of shit makes you like that will make me
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: hate a whole organization because it's like that's unnecessary. You
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: don't need to do that. You don't need to do that,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Like there's that's that you're going going actually above and
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: beyond to be a dick, Like you don't have to
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: tell someone to buy a house. You don't, that's not
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: your job. You don't need to you don't need to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: offer unnecessary assurances. Everybody knows trades happened, things can change,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: but for you to like assure someone of something like
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: that and then do that, like you don't give a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: fuck about people. And I think that the most successful organizations, companies, projects,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, care about people because yes, everyone's trying
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: to make money, everyone's trying to be successful, everyone is trying.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: To reach goals. We get that, like that the that's
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: why we got out of bed.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: But you don't have to treat people like shit in
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: order to accomplish great things. Like that's a narrative that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I agree with that it's constantly disproved.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. I mean, just treat people the
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: right way.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Even when I left Philly Man that was that was
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: crazy because like, I'd like to be honest and straightforward
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: with somebody, and and I got no bad blove with Chip.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: It is what it is. But they gave him so much.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Power, and he's always been like, well, you know, he
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: loved the idea, and he said something about it, you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: like he wished it didn't go like that, but he
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: had the idea of like you know what, he was
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: so into itself and it's like, yo, everybody's like that.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: But the difference is, like we got to work together,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: and he hated effective like the Deshaun Jackson right, and
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: the shady mccooy and the vict he got rid of
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: it so fast. I'm thinking, like any like right now,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: teams would love to have that type of talent. But
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: you see it now, like now you see where the
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Eagles you're trying to get say Kwan with Aj Brown
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: and Devonte Smith, and then Jalen hurts like that's like
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the thing, you know, and like he just hated that
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: part of like he wanted to be the Chip Kelly
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: offense or the Chip Kelly Eagles.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it didn't work out. But that was crazy.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: I remember because because when after the season, like people
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: they they packed their stuff up, they ship it out.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: I ain't never do like I'm gonna be here what
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: we're talking about, you know what I mean, I'm third
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: of rushing like I ain't about to man, I'm kicking back.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I see I see y'all next year.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Man, He hey, workout, you need to work out, dog,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: you had a bad year. And then and then he
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: gonna trade me. I couldn't believe it. Drew said, hey, Shady,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: he called me. I'm in Miami hanging out. I took
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: a nap, so all these calls, He's like, Shady, this
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: is not a joke. It's the first thing Drew said
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: to me, I'm agent the Eagles or trade you to
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills for a Keiko Alonso. I'm like, who
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: the fuck is that?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Who's that? You're playing? You gotta be playing? Who is that?
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: I had to look him up? Look Ahtim, I'm like,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: wait the line the linebacker? Al He's like from Oregon?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Makes sense?
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: So yeah, So I said, all right, I hang up
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Boom because he was still talking. I was like, bag
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: hang up on him, and I called I think I
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: called the owner and then I called Then I called Chip.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: I was blown chip up. He never entered. I leave
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: any messages and all that because I couldn't believe it,
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Like what and that's how that That's how that trade went.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: It's so crazy. Rex Ryan was the head coach for
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: the Bills when I got to the Bills. Now, they
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: gave me that paper though, so I get it.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I get it. I get to the Bills.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what happened with the trader? On how to happen?
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: He said, Shady. It was the fastest trade I've ever
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: had in my life.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what you mean? He said?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: The Eagles called, was like, hey, are you guys? Interested
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: in shady. He's like, yeah, but he said, you know what,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: not really, he says, we think they're gonna ask for
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: arm and the leg in the head and some toes.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: He's gonna ask me everything, he said.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: They said, uh no, we like keeck Alonso, he said,
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: and they were all quiet on swearphone.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Like and that was it. And they said it was
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: like deal and that was it. He was that fast,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: he said, So that's how that trade went.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you now that you're retired, now
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: that you're on the other side of things, now that
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: you're covering sport and you're seeing just the other side
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of it and your career is done, it gonna be
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: a Hall Famer.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: And all that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Do you still hold grudges that you thought that you
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: would hold forever?
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Are you more forgiving now?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I'm more forgiving now.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I spoke to mister Lord, the Eagles owner, and he
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: was saying that that was part of the worst thing
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: he's ever done, right, And he was like, the problem
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: is though, when they got chipped, they gave him so
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: much power, like we gotta get you from Oregon.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so everything he asked for they gave me.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: And he said, I'm not thinking that you're gonna take
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: our most viable player on the squad because at this
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: time my Jersey sales is like top five and like
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: the last three years, so you know, he said, I'm
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: not thinking that. Yeah, And that year I was first
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: in Russian. In the year they traded me, I was
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: a third in Russian. So it's like, I'm not thinking that,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: And he said. He gave him pushback like, well, if
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: it's not, you know the way that you guys told
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: me that I'm gonna leave the head coach, so puts
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: the owner in a tough situation. And he said that
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: another scenario happened like this before or after me. We're
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: bringing Graham. This is a downer, told me right, And because
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I was still mad at him, I can't lie. I
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: was pissed, like, dude, I ain't trying to hear all
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: that you're telling me. But when we talked face to face,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: and I could see in his eyes how so sire
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: he was. And he meant that he was like Brandon Graham,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: who was going on to sixteenth years of Eagle, sixteen
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: years straight with Eagle. They people love him in Philly.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: He said, Chip want to trade him. He said, hold up, Nope,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: I did this before with Shady. I'm not doing this again.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: And me and Brandon ain't. That's my boy, ain't. We
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: like were different player wise, you know what I mean. So,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: but it just shows you the fact that it hurt
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: him the first time around. Yeah, so, even a less
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: player as far as like statistics and all that, I'm
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: not gonna let you get him because Brandon meant a
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: lot to the team and etcetera, to the community and
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: all that, and he didn't do it and he got
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: trip out of there.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: That's the truth.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like he and that the whole organization
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: is really uh grounded.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so got one of the best organizations in the league.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: The ownership of his family, his sons, his wife, Howie
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Rose in the gym, the Nicks around, the whole the
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: whole platform, the whole thing is all that security. Do
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Listen real quick, shoutout big big Dom. Without shootog, A
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: lot of these players wouldn't be out here because it'll
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: be times when you so mad the coach or this
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: and that I would call Dom no dond nothing about no,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: no running back sweeper, no you know, hand or him,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: none of that but he was there to help us
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: out and talk because we were young, and he would
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: talk to us and calm us down, you know, and
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: show us how to be a professional.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Don was listen. I love Don and Don like sisters.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one is surprised by.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: But Donald was. Don was great though great.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Surprised by that? What uh? What is this?
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: What is a safe big dom story? Because I know,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: because I know you got.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Some, there's no any safe.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Dom is not going to tell any stories.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I try to get a story out of Dom at
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: your uh at your event, and he was like, no.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh a safe down store safe.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I think the fact that you can't think of anything.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I can think nothing safe. But explain this.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Then to people who don't understand the role of like
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: team security.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I got a safe one. I do have a safe one.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: This ain't that bad. I'm like twenty one, twenty two.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: I drive fast, got nice cars. I'm know I'm young,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if I was like my Bentley
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: or whatever was in Benz or something. But I was
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: getting all these speaking tickets and they took my license right.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: But then.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: You can so you can drive. It's some type of
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: program something you can drive for work, right, but then
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: I kept getting caught speeding like damn, I keep damn,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: something held in some way. This is years and years ago,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: so don key and trust years ago. I don't even
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: know if Dom did it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, how about that.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Hit that on?
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know how I got I don't know. I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: not saying Dom did it, but I'm just thinking.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: And listen, Philly, I got pulled over, right, and and
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: lady's trying to find I gave my license registration on it,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: and it don't say that my life is suspended, but
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: she's just looking so hard like something will add up.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: But what didn't add up? Well, listen, lady.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: They might have said off suspended, but then it's not
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: seeing them suspend it. So I had my license was
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: basically violid, like it was fixed somehow. God is good though,
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: and I'm praying a lot, so i'm Dom did it.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: But I remember saying something.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Dollar starts smiling a man drive safe for smile and
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: me like, all right, I'm sure it will, but that
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: it was less now because it helped me drive better.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't speed anyone, no, no, no, no, no more.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Speeding is silly.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Uh, that's safe though, right, that ain't crazy.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm sure Dom had nothing to do with it,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: of course, of course not we I mean obviously we
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: worked together for three years, four years, four years, four years.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: What was your first impression of me? Because I have
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: a funny, shitty story of like when we first started
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: working together, what was your first impression of me?
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: No, he was always he was solid like he was.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: But see, I already knew you though.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Because yeah, we knew each other.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah before my brother in the school and you did
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: my homeboy, you know what I mean, he went to
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: school with shooting that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: He was always solid. You was always cool. I thought
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: she was cute.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: I thought she was cool, right, I thought she was
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: like you know what, your mammy of the cute homegirl
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: that hang out with all the homies.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Everybody has that, like like.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Like every girl can't hang out with the homies, right
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: because dude's like yo, man, we tired of her over here,
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Like I remember at that my Hall of Fame, you
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: came and people that didn't know it's like, yo, Julie Taylor,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: cool as hell, like you was sitting there with the
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: boys chilling. So that was like my first impression like, dang,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: you got that around the Way girl.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what's that song with jay
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Loo say, cool J.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna claim that cool J one that's around the world. No,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: but I mean like that, yeah, I know what you're
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: talking about. But he was he was cool though. I
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, okay.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: The only thing I don't like that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: Jordandan' do though, real talk, You ain't put me on
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: none of your homies though, And I know they was like.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Yo, what's up with the bull shady?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, you weren't in a
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: good headspace at the time that they were requesting.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying, Like, you ain't throw no Ali Hoops,
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: no way, Lebron, none of that, none of that Kobe
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: fucking Shack, no Pippins or nothing.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a good time for you.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: You were ready, like now.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I would do it, so right now today you throw
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: this off the backboard.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well I'm open like that.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: But at the time he was was still getting acclimated
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to the city.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: There's sot a lot going on, you know, I mean,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and I didn't want to put you know, I'm just
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: very particular about hooking people up. I got to make
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: sure everybody is in the right headspace. I'm not about
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: to be responsible for however it's about to turn out.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I want I want everyone to be optimized
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: for success.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Oh what you're trying like like a wife or something?
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What else would be what we just talked about?
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: You have a problem in the other areas?
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm talking about talking about I need a
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: good girl, like like a friend.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: We got to learn each other first ring No.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying he's jumped right, you know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: but like, you know, serious material.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Like that you give me.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: You have enough un serious material on your own.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: So when I'm expecting this past because I'm open.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: We'll revisit now that now that I know that you're
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: you know in the yeah, we'll see.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to wanting like this.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Hit your spot.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: So when when Shadey and I first started doing the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: show together, because we didn't know each other a little
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: bit before, but we started from doing the show together. Uh,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: we we were doing some topic. I can't remember what
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: it was, I can't remember it was, but we were
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: we were going out a little bit. Could we kind
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: of used to go at it on that show.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going with you.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Not we did. We did in the beginning. Oh no,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: we had, oh no, one time one time. I can't
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: remember what we were talking about, but you came though.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: We were going. I said, my.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Dog enjoyed that, and Shady got he got.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: He felt a little bit type of worry about how
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the how the segment went, and I could tell because
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm o G. So I was like, uh, shade, Shady,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I'm off talk to Shady. And I think it was
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the next day. I was like, yeah, let me let
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: me rapish you a little bit. I was like, I'm
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: not if I get like that, I'm not coming at you.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I'm coming at your opinion.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: But now I don't think we had it wasn't like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: nothing bad, but you did.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: She was like, Okay, yeah, that's it.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: That's because that's the name of the game. Cool.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: You got me cool back. So now I'm like, okay,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: that's what we're own now. So I was all right.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: So everything was defensively our beat. So we worked it out.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: We only had one incident. That was only one.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was good after that. He was good
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: after that. That's remember that I do because I don't.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: That's how I am.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Like if I if there's a problem, I'm going to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: address the problem. I'm not like, let's like let it
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: sort out or I don't need to explain myself. The
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: ego ship is what kills all kinds of situations. And
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: it wasn't no, it wasn't ego on your part. It
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: was like one, you know, I got a mouthpiece. So
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: if you don't really know that I'm not coming, I'm
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: not really coming for you.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I mean you feel that way, and.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: Guard I was like, oh oh oh, I wish I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: could remember what the topic.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: But you know what, though, this is what I will
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: say because I see a lot of you know, females
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: is on TV all that I say, Yo, a lot
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: of them girls that they they can't touch joy Like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I see women and I'm not judging them because it's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: a hard sport.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: It's hard for dudes.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: But some of the women that they dance around questions,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: they make it sound good.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: You could tell that the producers.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Throwing them a lot of stuff and they just adding
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: on to it. And it's like, because men don't really
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: know unless you really work with a woman, you get
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And like years ago Cam Newton made
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: that statement. I think it was Kelly.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: What was her name?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: What was the girl that he says something about he's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: laughing at she was making opinions. Yeah, he hadn't really
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: worked with him, he still plans. He don't get it.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: But when you sit down there and every day we
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: talk about sports, you learn, oh damn, she know what
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: she's talking about.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Or you can tell she got a football background. You
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: get what I'm saying.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: And a lot of girls now I see on TV
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: not that say anything about them, but I'm like, yo,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: they can't touch joy because I work with a girl
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: that was you in there with football players and dudes
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: that got egos and dudes that is not scared to
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: speak their mind, and you hold your own and you
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: not dancing around questions to make it sound you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: cause I could talk about I don't know a lot
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: about tennis, but listen you, I can talk around like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: you like think I know, you.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean. And I see a lot of
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: girls do that.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, it's crazy, cause now I noticed the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: difference because I work with one. It was really really
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: really really really good. So I know the difference. Does
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: that make sense what I'm saying?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Nah, real talk.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: We had a we had a good show.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: It it's a it's a whole different world now, but yeah,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: we had a we had a good time, and the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: super Bowl was fun too.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: I love my time earlier. I don't lie like men
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: than him talk about what I had a blast though,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean. And it's my first
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: time being outside of like football on the field, but
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: it felt like football.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: It felt it has a doing I think doing sports
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: opinion television specifically, like doing some shows doesn't really feel
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: like a locker room, Like if you're you're doing like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: analysts work and stuff like that, like it doesn't have
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the same energy. But when you're prepping for a show
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: like the show that we did, that environment is very
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: much like a locker room not locker room talk, but
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: but kind of like yeah, like you just you you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of warm up, So the meetings
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: are like a sort of a warm up for what
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the show will be. So it'll be you know, some
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: crazy high jinks from the weekends, or you know, stopping
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the meeting to watch the high speed chase or something
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: like that's that. That to me, I think, is why
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: so many players enjoy getting into that space after after sports,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: because and there aren't that many of them. And it
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: also like really, you know, the the chemistry and the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: environment matters.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's it is. It is kind of like
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: Your dress room was still today with the best duds
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: fom I've ever been in. I don't know if you
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: guys get counseling, but it was like a counseling type environment,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: like you got carpets.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: You got candles lit and all that. I listen.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: I could never go in her room, but I would
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: ask like the wardrobe people like yo, Dan enjoying.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Her Hey, look grab her blanket.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Give you a little nap, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Like you had all that little snacks fruit.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I mean almost ten years. It was like an apartment.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I believe that.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: It was very cozy, like a nice, comfortable, zan quiet place.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: It was my room like that my dress room.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I mean yours was like a dorm room.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yo.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: It was funny because when I was leaving, when I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: left Fox and all that, hey shitty, do you want
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: to come pick up your belongings? I'm like, well, yeah,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: ain't sent me my clothes. I'm cool like y'all keep
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: all that other stuff. Well, Shady, I think you probably
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: should come pick some.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Of your belongings up. We really don't need it.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: I said, well you sure, I said, what's face timey
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: or some me a picture? Like what's what's what I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: leave over there? And I had all types stuff that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: I had, columns and the little joey I had.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I had, you know what I mean? I had like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: some deweer. I had all my that was my crib. Yeah,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I mean I had all my little stuff in there.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: You know I had to.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I had my uh my, my my shaver joint, you
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: know what.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: I man, my different soaps.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: I had my what's the thing that uh Kyrie Irvan
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: be doing all the time?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Have I sage everywhere?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Like I said, you know what, I'll be there in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: ten minutes. Y'all need my stuff? Yeah? I need my
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: stuff all right?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Well, before we get out of here, uh, we want
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Shady and friends, Galla.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I can't wait on December sixth at if I.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Stadium benefiting the Lashawn McCoy Foundation. Always sounds very very
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: formal when we don't say, Shy the Lashawn McCoy Foundation.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: You're raising money for scholarship funds for at risk youth
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles in the surrounding area. You've been doing
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: your foundation for a long time now. I actually covered
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: your softball You always say that, Yeah, how.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Do you not remember that? I gotta find the pictures.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I don't remember that at all.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I covered I came to Philly.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: It was actually like a really crazy, crazy weekends. A
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: lot happened that weekend and it was not part of
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: it was nothing to do with you. And I will
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: tell you the story, not on camera because it's very
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: traumatizing for me.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: But actually, think I told you what happened that weekend.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Oh it was crazy young early journalist stuff. Had nothing
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: to do with Shady.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: But anyway, she.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Comes to the party, the party, So wait, you cased
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: the game in a party.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah it.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: She that's that big time.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: She was occupied.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Time.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I covered your softball tournament. That was Oh
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: my god, that was so long ago. That it was so
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: long ago.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: But you've been doing a lot in the in the community.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: You always do.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Where do you get your philanthropy aside from.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: I think it's uh I'm just really thankful, you know.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: Always sometimes at home when I'm like by myself, I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: look at my my kids and how they are super
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: super intelligent, you know, beautiful daughter and handsome son, and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: you know, I look at my parents and I heard
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: the stories of how they grew up right and this
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: and that and and I played with a lot of
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: players right high school and Little League college, and I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: was like, dang, like all these people, God bless me.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I always think of that, like he pecked me, so
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I'll be so thankful.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: And I always wanted to like help out, you know,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: the next different kids and just show them something different,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: you know. And I feel like I owe him that,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: you know, because I do affordable houses houses and basically
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: you know, people that can't enforce her homes, the government
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: helps out. And when I go into these living situations now,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: it's weird because when I was younger, like the projects
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: was the projects. But as a kid, you ain't even
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: know what that really meant, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: I would I didn't live in the project, but I
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: would go down the street to the projects to hang out
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: with him because that's all the fun was at Like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: the bad stuff, and then like, you know, all the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: funk was there, and as a kid, you don't even
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: know about pissy hallways and this and that and drug
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: infested areas and homeless you don't even know about that.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: And then you get older you learn like, damn, this
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: is where he's from. Oh wow, this is where she
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: grow up at. Oh oh, that's the ah she got.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: She she gotta go against or he got to go against.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: And it always hit me though, So I said, you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: know what, when I when I when I get on like,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna help some of these because kids out that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: didn't have the right environment they grew up in, Like
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: I grew up in the hood, but I had my mom,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: my dad had an older brother, So like I couldn't
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: get in trouble because my dad wasn't on that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: I don't care what was going on, you know what
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I would hang up with homies. I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: was like, real, there was badass kids. I don't hang
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: out on was. I loved them and that was kind
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: of a badass kid a little bit with them, but
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: I knew the boundaries I can't step over because I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: know at home, my dad ain't you're talking about the cops.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: They man my dad, the cops and blood to me,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: my homies didn't have that, so they stepped over them
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: boundaries and they did other things and learning. How like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: some of my good friends were, I'm learning how to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: play football. My dad's teaching me how to ride a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: bike and he's doing and they don't have a dad,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: and they learning how to cook up coke from their
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: older brother because there's no dad in the crib and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: the mom was working.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Like stuff like that.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: It makes me emotional, you know, because people don't even
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: know that side of the world.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. Up to some super rich ass.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: People that your friends were, You're like, yo, you don't
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: even know this side of the world anyway. So I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: think my generosity comes from that, Like yo, I old
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: a youth that where now I'm building stuff and kids
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: see it like they don't even know it's affordable. They
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: can't wait to get in the buildings, you know what
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: I mean. I shit be all praying new I'm giving
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: marble floor. I'm getting the bang, you know, and it
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: makes me feel good. It makes me feel good, like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I like I scored a winning touchdown because I'm saving
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: some kids. Now, not only am I saving them, I'm
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: giving them jobs. Yeah, young and you ain't.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Got to go to the pros.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: But I got sure I get some paper the legit way.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: So a lot of that is and that's something that's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: my mom and my dad too. My mom is a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: real giver. I remember when I was a kid. She's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: always she'd be the type of mind where if my
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: boys are coming over and they're like the best family,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: she will like give them some of my clothes, or
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: give them some money, or she would feed everybody. So
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: I kind of I got something that from my mom's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: But I got a good team, good foundation, man, good
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: group of people that care about service in their community.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: You know, it's not about me, me me. You know
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: that's why they won't leave home like they love it.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get you some information on how you can
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: get tickets. They'll be on sale soon for the Shady
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: and Friends Gala on December six. Make sure you catch
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Shady on Speak Easy streaming live after NFL primetime games
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: and the zones inside the Ring.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: You can also often catch them in Vegas.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Wait hold on real quick, you know I know my
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: box though, did it blow. Your mom used to go
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: on like this, Yeah shit, I missed. I was at
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: the I was at the fight too.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like just miss getting you on the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: end on the big screen.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I will say, it's kind of tough a fight in
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: a stadium. You think, Yeah, it's tough.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: It's so big, like you need the intimacy of a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: for a boxing fight.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: It's only two people there, that's nothing. It's like two
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: people in the ring.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the balls, So it's huge, like it's your.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: I was crazy, crazy, but I asked that because everybody
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: people like, yo, you wait, you are boxing though.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: No, Shady really fucks with boxing like.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I love boxing though. Yeah you know so.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so make sure you check him out on the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: zones inside the ring, follow them on Twitter at cut
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: on Dime twenty five and Shady McCoy on Instagram. And
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: if you are well, I don't know I should I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: promote if you're a wife material because.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: My wife material, but I am dating some money. You're
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: dating something and I like her a lot. Yeah, so
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: we'll stick with that.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: Then. Well, I mean I don't have the job.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: You don't have the job, Yeah, put the application in,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: like you know, I'm trying to get the job.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Oh you haven't secured yet. I like this mentality, you
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure the other guys trying to get her job,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: you know, but I don't have it. They don't have
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: we're trying to get it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I like to put as much as applications
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: I can out there.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you want other Apple, You're not. You're
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: putting other applications out because.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Listen, I want to have a really good job, you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: know what I mean for a lot of years.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's good to see you.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: It's it's weird not not to see you every day.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: I know, right, hey, real quick, it'd be some mornings
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: where Sue, we might be tired.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not tired about this. Chill, real chill. I come
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: in there all loud and ship.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: Look when would see it, because that's normal I am.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: But I would see her like annoyed the oecolm down,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: all right, Joan, not for you, you know what I mean.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: She had a big dog the eyes. She's not for today,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: but tomorrow i'ma be loud again.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: And she oh she not.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: She's not dealing with it. But some days you will
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: deal with it. I will get louder.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta gotta read the room. I really was
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: the old head there though.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: He was, though you was, even though sometimes right, you
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: would put the old head card. Like when we talked
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: about and we should do poll I don't I you
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: could do polls or not. But Mariah Carey, oh Whitney Houston.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: You trying to throw in there, Aretha Franklin is that
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: her name?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Regulars? Stop saying this.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Please, She's not level.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I cannot say Aretha frank Franklin is regular. It gives
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: me anxiety. This This was one of the biggest arguments
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: that we had as as an institution at in that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: building because, believe me, I understand he sounds insane, but
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: nobody is saying that we don't love Mariah.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: We all love Mariah. I like it, I like it,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: you act like it.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: We love Mariah. But you can't say Aretha Franklin is regular.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: That's that's insanity.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: I listen to her. Though you maybe go home and
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: do my homework. I'm like, this is this is who
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: we are. This is I'm on my phone, like, this
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: is what we're doing.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: This is this her It's like a miracle that I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: don't have a full head of gray hair.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Yo, I'm just saying she can't sit with them matter
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: in fact.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: I always tell people this, the blind eye knows best. Like,
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  Speaker 4: if I don't know nothing about this sport, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know who's Lebron or who's Jordan or who's Kobe Bryant,
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  Speaker 4: and I just watched basketball, I wouldna say, damn, this
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  Speaker 4: dude number twenty three or this dude number twenty four,
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  Speaker 4: like they look better than everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know nothing about Aretha.
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  Speaker 2: I put her on.
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  Speaker 4: I put Mariah on first, I put Whitney on second.
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  Speaker 4: I put Ritha on third.
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  Speaker 5: Ritha am I Rightlretha area, Alretha cool.
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  Speaker 2: I put her on.
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  Speaker 4: She's nowhere near them. It's like real quick, Well Chamberlain
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  Speaker 4: and she killo on them and all that. Yeah, no
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  Speaker 4: matter who you think, it's better, they gonna be close.
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  Speaker 4: The way they look, she didn't sound nothing like them girls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm not fighting back the way that you want
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  Speaker 1: me to, it's because I've I've fought in this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. She talked me for like two weeks because
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  Speaker 3: of it. I was like, Joyce should keep walking.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to see you, thanks for coming down.
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  Speaker 3: Oh not much for you. Come on now, all right,
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  Speaker 3: that was.
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  Speaker 2: A good time.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't know how I don't have gray hairs
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  Speaker 1: from that Aretha Franklin conversation. I promise you, I argued
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  Speaker 1: with him earnestly. He doesn't listen on that. But thanks
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  Speaker 1: to Shady for stopping by. Too Personal, and make sure
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  Speaker 1: two Personal Podcast at gmail dot com or you can
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  Speaker 1: dms at two Personal Show on Instagram. So this question is,
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  Speaker 1: why is it that men tend to criticize women commentators
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  Speaker 1: harsher than a man commentator.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a man, despite which you may have heard, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really like to speak about things from a
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  Speaker 1: perspective I don't understand, so I will only speak about
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  Speaker 1: this from the perspective that I have experienced.
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  Speaker 2: I think that women.
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  Speaker 1: Are held to a higher standard than men, especially in
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  Speaker 1: spaces that are considered traditionally for men, whether it be
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  Speaker 1: sports or politics or news, spaces that are the boys club.
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  Speaker 1: Women in those spaces get held music, those spaces get held.
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  Speaker 2: For men, and when there are women there, there.
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  Speaker 1: Is this expectation that they have to be superior to
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  Speaker 1: the men in order to even be in that space,
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  Speaker 1: or they got into that space from some salacious way.
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  Speaker 2: They're criticized harder.
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  Speaker 1: Than the men because those fan bases tend to be
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  Speaker 1: heavily mail as well. And let's just be honest, the
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  Speaker 1: world and particularly these spaces are extremely misogynistic and it's
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  Speaker 1: not a welcoming, safe space for women. So there is
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  Speaker 1: an expectation that a woman has to be an expert,
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  Speaker 1: that she's there just because she wants to be on
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  Speaker 1: television or she just wants to be seen. There's all
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  Speaker 1: these different criterias and criticisms that women face that men
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  Speaker 1: don't face, and you know, the bottom line is is
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  Speaker 1: just misogyny.
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  Speaker 2: These are boys clubs.
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  Speaker 1: These are spaces that men feel women shouldn't be in,
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  Speaker 1: and when they're listening to a woman, it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: a space that they feel is sacred to men. So
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  Speaker 1: there really is no like deep philosophical explanation for it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that there are certain men who believe that
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  Speaker 1: some spaces are reserved just for men, and that women
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  Speaker 1: being there is an affront to a space that they
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  Speaker 1: feel like they own, and because of that, women are
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  Speaker 1: criticized more harshly than men. And before you get started,
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  Speaker 1: men are also criticized, but we know they are criticized
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  Speaker 1: in a completely different way than women are criticized. If
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  Speaker 1: you have any confusion about this, you are welcome to
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: check out any of my social media posts ever posted
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  Speaker 1: and go read the comments on such. It will change
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  Speaker 1: your life, not for the positive, however, it may enlighten you.
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  Speaker 1: Men are not spoken to in that way. They are
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  Speaker 1: not criticized in that way they are, they're not ridiculed
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  Speaker 1: in that way. Their bodies are not picked apart. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it's not the same thing. And it's just because
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  Speaker 1: it's a misogynistic space that men feel are held is
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  Speaker 1: held for them. So it's not fair, but life isn't fair.
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  Speaker 1: And what I say to a lot of women who
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  Speaker 1: are going into these male dominated spaces is that.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you do have to be better.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be on time, you have to be superior,
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  Speaker 1: You have to be more talented, you have to study more,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be more of everything in order to
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  Speaker 1: just get into the space, but in order to stay
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  Speaker 1: in the space, you have to be better at all
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  Speaker 1: times because there is an expectation of you that is
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  Speaker 1: not levied in the same way that is for the men.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, at the end of the day, misogyny. It's
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  Speaker 2: others to it. Thanks to the.
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  Speaker 1: Question and if you want to be a part of
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