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Raiders-Broncos Week 10 TNF Recap and Midseason Power Rankings · NFL Podcast Network Selects

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Speaker 1: Ready fifty sent freedom right to the left, Knicks drops back,
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Speaker 1: throws a ball to the end zone. The pass is
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Speaker 1: taught and that is a Denver touchdown. Troy Franklin with
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Speaker 1: the catch at the gold line and he had Eric
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Speaker 1: Stokes on his back. Stokes made the tackle, but Franklin
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Speaker 1: had the ball and a touchdown.
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Speaker 2: That was Dave Logan on koa. That was the only
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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos touchdown of the night. That was the last
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Speaker 2: time we saw anyone in the end zone in this game.
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Speaker 2: A ten to seven victory by the Denver Broncos over
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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders. Nick, when I asked you before
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Speaker 2: the season to do every Monday night game recap with me,
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Speaker 2: every Thursday night game recap with me, I never promised
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Speaker 2: that they would all be beautiful, and I submit there
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Speaker 2: will not be an uglier primetime game than this all season.
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Speaker 2: For many seasons, there there are some games that are
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Speaker 2: ugly and fun, and this one, by the end was
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Speaker 2: just ugly.
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Speaker 3: It makes me think about that Colt's Broncos game that
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Speaker 3: was a Thursday Night or a few years.
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Speaker 4: Ago that was also just about as ugly as this one.
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Speaker 2: But that one had like a sense of like this is.
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Speaker 2: We're all having a good time by the end because.
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Speaker 4: It's so bad.
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Speaker 3: Fact that it was that bad, yeah, and this one
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Speaker 3: so much just like I know it to that point.
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Speaker 3: So my youngest sister lives with me, and she made
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Speaker 3: some incredible banana bread today, and to feel something again
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Speaker 3: before getting on the show, I just took a big
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Speaker 3: chunk of banana bread and housed it before I came
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Speaker 3: in here to do the show.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I appreciate your sister. I want some
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Speaker 2: of that banana bread. And we're still gonna break this down,
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Speaker 2: but we're also going to break down the entire league.
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Speaker 2: Where we made our first power rankings of the year,
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Speaker 2: me and you a little bit of a power poll
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Speaker 2: where we averaged our rankings together, and uh yeah, the Broncos,
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Speaker 2: you know, might have to move down a couple spots
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Speaker 2: despite winning tonight's game. So you know, we'll give this
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Speaker 2: game all the time it deserves, maybe a little less
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Speaker 2: than most Thursday nights, and then we'll do some of
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Speaker 2: the power rankings.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: My takeaway here in a game that had twenty two
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Speaker 2: penalties split evenly, eleven each, fifteen punts and just incredibly
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Speaker 2: long stretches of offensive incompetency, especially you know in the
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Speaker 2: second half of this game, was that this Bronco's offense, Like,
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Speaker 2: I know, they won the game. When usually talked positive
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Speaker 2: about you know, we'll talk about the defense and how
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Speaker 2: good they look, that we know they're great, like their
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Speaker 2: troubles are not going away Bo Nicks through an unforgivable
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Speaker 2: interception late in this game. They never got it even
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Speaker 2: going in the fourth quarter. The reason they won is
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Speaker 2: because their defense kept setting them up with short fields.
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Speaker 2: They eventually got a little bit of a running game going,
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Speaker 2: but my god, they're passing game against the defense that
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Speaker 2: has struggled all season. Was kind of my biggest takeaway
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Speaker 2: because this isn't eight and two team leading the AFC
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Speaker 2: West with a chance to get the number one seed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's another example of what this team has
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Speaker 3: been for I mean months, not month, but months at
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Speaker 3: this point. I mean, they are a team that looks
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Speaker 3: as if they are sleepwalking offensively almost every week. And
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Speaker 3: their story has been they turned on the fourth quarter
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Speaker 3: and come back and win games. And frankly, tonight was
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Speaker 3: setting up to be that. If Daniel Carlson makes the
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Speaker 3: game tying field goal, which he missed. We were going
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Speaker 3: to have to see them put the foot down on
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Speaker 3: the pedal again and see if they could pull another
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Speaker 3: one out of thin air instead. Luckily, because the Raiders
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Speaker 3: missed their field goal, Lebroncos simply had to salt it away.
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Speaker 3: I will give them a little bit of credit. Before
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Speaker 3: that touchdown pass that we heard to start the show, Yo,
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Speaker 3: Knicks did have a handful of really good throws where
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Speaker 3: he stepped up in the pocket, he extended to play
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Speaker 3: and you know, he's got guys ten to fifteen yards
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Speaker 3: downfield that he's hitting accurately. Other than that nightmare, they
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Speaker 3: didn't run the ball effectively in the first half. They
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Speaker 3: decided to commit to it in the second half and
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Speaker 3: it helped a little bit and helped them put the
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Speaker 3: game away as well.
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Speaker 4: But it is a team that lacks and identity.
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Speaker 3: Has talent, has an ability to move the football at times,
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Speaker 3: but lacks identities, so it takes them forever to get going,
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Speaker 3: and we were left with this same thing. You know,
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Speaker 3: I described Bonnicks recently as a firecracker quarterback because he's silent,
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Speaker 3: and it's just like lighting a pack of firecrackers. Everything's quiet,
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Speaker 3: the fuse is lit. Might hear the fuse and then
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Speaker 3: pop up up, pop up, pap pap up. That's how
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Speaker 3: he's been in almost every game tonight. He wasn't even
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Speaker 3: really that exceptly when they scored that touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one drive. It was late in the
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Speaker 2: second quarter. It was the best field position that they
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Speaker 2: had until the second half where they blew a couple
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Speaker 2: really short fields. But they started at their own forty
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Speaker 2: seven and they drove down and you're right, he's made
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Speaker 2: a few plays where he steps up in the pocket
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Speaker 2: and you know, sees open lanes and hits a pass,
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Speaker 2: but he missed so many of those tonight. And they
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Speaker 2: had a crazy amount of drives in this game, thirteen drives,
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Speaker 2: so like that game should have ended at you usually
4:50
Speaker 2: you get about ten drives in a game, and they
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Speaker 2: had seven points at one point, and there was a
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Speaker 2: stretch where through eleven drives, which is more than a game,
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Speaker 2: you know, a normal game, where they had eight three
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Speaker 2: and outs out of those seven drives, and an interception
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Speaker 2: in those eight drives, another very short drive, and then
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Speaker 2: the touchdown drive that we just talked about, and then
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Speaker 2: on top of it, like if you want to extend
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Speaker 2: it out to twelve drives. It was that groaner of
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Speaker 2: an interception in the fourth quarter, so that that's a
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Speaker 2: twelve drive sequence with just total struggle fest And there
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Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of pressure on him. I mean there
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Speaker 2: was at times, but I looked and there wasn't much
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Speaker 2: quick pressure. Max Crosby was generally taken care of tonight
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Speaker 2: by their pass rush. So one play really stands out
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Speaker 2: to me where Kirk Kurbstreet on the broadcast is like,
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Speaker 2: you know, bo Nick's not feeling very settled in the pocket,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, that's true. But it was a
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Speaker 2: three man rush against a five man protection with absolutely
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Speaker 2: no one there, and then he just like throws it
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Speaker 2: away on a third third down. That was at the
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Speaker 2: beginning of the fourth quarter. And yet I appreciated them,
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Speaker 2: if nothing else, running the clock out at the end
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Speaker 2: of the game with some good JK. Dobbins runs and
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Speaker 2: if nothing else, that got us to the end of
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Speaker 2: the game quicker.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one inexplicable miss of a running lane
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Speaker 3: by JK. Dobbins in that sequence. For you see it
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Speaker 3: on Prime vision from over the top, You're like, the
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Speaker 3: lane is there, and he just tries to swerve right
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Speaker 3: around it. Otherwise they put the gameway. But you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 3: I mean this offense had no rhythm the entire night.
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Speaker 3: This game was really won by their defense and their
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Speaker 3: defense's ability to completely eliminate brock Bowers from the equation
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Speaker 3: for the Raiders. They dedicated defensive backs to them all game.
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Speaker 3: There were multiple instances in which the Raiders are running
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Speaker 3: play action trying to slip Boers out into the flat.
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Speaker 3: There's two dbs right there covering him.
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Speaker 4: Gino looks to him first, has to go somewhere else.
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Speaker 3: So, I mean, this defense won this game they wanted
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Speaker 3: by not really blitzing that much but getting semi consistent
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Speaker 3: pressure doesn't really show up in the numbers, but shows
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Speaker 3: up visually. And it's not really like their hallmark that
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Speaker 3: they have a good defense. We know that, but when
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Speaker 3: you think about the Broncos, you don't think like great
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Speaker 3: defensive team they win with defense. You think of them
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Speaker 3: as a team that has a good defense and then
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Speaker 3: just happens to find enough success offensively. And it felt
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Speaker 3: like a diet version of that tonight.
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Speaker 2: An extreme version. I would say, yeah, I'm I'm glad
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Speaker 2: you brought up something positive here. So yeah, let's give
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Speaker 2: Nick Benito his flowers, eight or nine QB pressures, six
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Speaker 2: quick pressures, two sacks. I think they'll count it officially
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Speaker 2: as one and a half. I don't believe in half sacks.
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Speaker 2: Another couple quarterback hits on the day, Zach Allen with
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Speaker 2: three quarterback hits and a sack. And the Raiders start
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Speaker 2: out this game with a really good touchdown drive. And
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Speaker 2: the image I remember it best is on the score
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Speaker 2: Jackson Powers Johnson, their guard, you know, blocking Nick Benito
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Speaker 2: out of the play in Ashton Genty running through a
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Speaker 2: tackle by Ufunga, and I'm thinking, okay, we're live. This
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Speaker 2: is gonna be an interesting game. And that was like
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Speaker 2: the last we saw anything of that, And partly because
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Speaker 2: Jackson Powers Johnson left this game, and that left their
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Speaker 2: left side which has been missing Colton Miller thin all night.
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Speaker 2: What the hell, let's listen to the one Raider touchdown
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Speaker 2: because we really aren't going to have any other highlights.
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Speaker 1: Time out. Gino's clapping his hands on third and short
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Speaker 1: inside handoff Genty inside the five first down is go
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Speaker 1: one touchdown Raiders Genty on the inside handle a six
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Speaker 1: yard run.
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Speaker 4: Josh's in the insode.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Ashley Gensy started this game great and then he
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Speaker 2: ended the game with three point two yards per carry.
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Speaker 2: I was watching part of the game with more East
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Speaker 2: Jones Drew. He thinks genty misses some holes. You were
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Speaker 2: talking about not having like the greatest vision. He thinks
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Speaker 2: he missed them tonight. But after really that first drive
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Speaker 2: or two, the Broncos dominated in a way that you
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Speaker 2: just rarely see. There was a sequence, and I keep going.
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Speaker 2: While the Broncos were doing all those three and outs
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Speaker 2: that I just mentioned, there was an eight drive sequence
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Speaker 2: by the Raiders where they had a total of ten yards.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. A total of ten yards, a
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Speaker 2: four play turnover on downs three and out, three and
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Speaker 2: out three end of half, three and out, one play
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Speaker 2: interception three and a block punt and then on a
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Speaker 2: three and out. That's that's wild. In an NFL game
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Speaker 2: that we all watched and we were paid for.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were, thank you. I will say that Jackson
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Speaker 4: powers johnts like Jackson Powers.
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Speaker 3: Johnson supposedly going to be coming in to be the center,
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Speaker 3: he loses the center job.
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Speaker 4: He ends up being a guard.
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Speaker 3: He is kind of in the mold of Richie and
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Speaker 3: cognitothough he's taller, but he looks like him physically, and
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Speaker 3: the way that he moves and blocks is kind of similar,
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Speaker 3: which is funny because in Cognito, you know, end of
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Speaker 3: his career, he was a Raider as well, but once
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Speaker 3: they lost him, the right side of their offensive line
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Speaker 3: was just consistently bad. You see him pulling from right
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Speaker 3: to left there on that touchdown run. After that, DJ
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Speaker 3: Glaze is getting beaten consistently in one on ones by
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Speaker 3: Nick Benito, the right guard that replaces Jackson powers Johnson
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Speaker 3: getting beaten consistently in one on ones to where Gino
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Speaker 3: never has any time to survey the field, and that's
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Speaker 3: before he gets banged up. This offense had no life.
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Speaker 3: We've talked all year about how Genti is consistently getting
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Speaker 3: hit behind the line of scrimmage. Watch it on Prime
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Speaker 3: Vision tonight from above, it's the same thing. He's getting
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Speaker 3: hit a yard half, a yard yard and a half
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Speaker 3: behind the line of scrimmage. He's got nowhere to run
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Speaker 3: This Raiders offense. If it's not dead, it's on. It's
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Speaker 3: basically on life support right now. Like they just can't
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Speaker 3: do anything.
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Speaker 2: They're leading receiver tonight was Tyler Lockett by far five
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Speaker 2: for forty four. You know, Bowers has one good catch
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Speaker 2: where he singled up on Jaday Baron in the first half,
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Speaker 2: and in that drive I believe ended either in the
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Speaker 2: turnover on downs or one of the three punts that
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Speaker 2: the Raiders had in Broncos territory. I don't know how
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Speaker 2: they pulled that off. They also had the missed field
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Speaker 2: goal that you mentioned when Gino did get some passes
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Speaker 2: going in the second half their only sign of life,
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Speaker 2: and then they settle for the field goal attempt and
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Speaker 2: he missed it. And Gino is struggling in general. He
10:49
Speaker 2: definitely missed a few throws tonight. He held onto the
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Speaker 2: ball a little bit, but he had basically no chance.
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Speaker 2: And the offensive line you're talking about is Dylan Forsyth
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Speaker 2: or Stone Forsythe at left tackle, is it? Dylan Putnam
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Speaker 2: at left guard, Jordan Meredith, Alex Kappa in Glaze, dj
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Speaker 2: Glaze on the right side. So that's three replacements and
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Speaker 2: then one of the starters, Glaze, just getting killed. It's
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Speaker 2: HiT's rough going for my guy. I don't think you
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Speaker 2: had much of a chance. But there's just there's not
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Speaker 2: much more you can say. I think about this Raiders offense,
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Speaker 2: maybe not of this game unless you have anything more
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Speaker 2: you really want to get to here.
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Speaker 3: Typically Captain Geno for trying to cut out the injury
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Speaker 3: that he was dealing with, it was pretty clear he
11:33
Speaker 3: was limited by it. He gets hit after scrambling. He
11:37
Speaker 3: basically gets tripped up by Nick Benito you're gonna see
11:39
Speaker 3: if you're watching on YouTube, and then Malcolm Roach falls
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Speaker 3: on him, and I believe that's where it happened, because
11:43
Speaker 3: he starts grabbing his left leg and he continues to
11:45
Speaker 3: grab his left leg. Kaylee Hartsung later reported it was
11:48
Speaker 3: a left quad injury. So if you see the replay
11:51
Speaker 3: again if you're watching on YouTube, Gino stumbles to the
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Speaker 3: ground and then Roach falls in and the replay view
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Speaker 3: from behind, which I'm not sure we're.
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Speaker 4: Gonna get here, we don't get there.
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Speaker 3: You can see the impact on his leg. His knee
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Speaker 3: kind of goes inward. At first I thought it might
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Speaker 3: be a knee issue, ends up being a quad. Either way,
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Speaker 3: it was a significant hurdle for him physically, and ultimately
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Speaker 3: I think it limited him in key spots, but you
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Speaker 3: got to give him credit for trying to gut it out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a dime to Dante Thornton in the
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Speaker 2: first half which could have been caught and just completely dropped.
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Speaker 2: Probably his best throw of the night by far. He
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Speaker 2: had a touchdown taken off the board by a jack
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Speaker 2: or No, that was a Dante Thornton penalty, rather on
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Speaker 2: an offensive pass interference where I think the play call
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Speaker 2: would have worked it Obviously.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that defender is going to actually come
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Speaker 3: that the ground, even if he doesn't hit him, I
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Speaker 3: don't think he gets there.
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Speaker 2: It was absolutely the right call, don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 2: because he went out of his way to hit the guy.
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Speaker 2: Was just too easy and that took seven points off
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Speaker 2: the board too. And then he had a sequence wherever
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Speaker 2: he Moster had a blown assignment trying to protect him
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Speaker 2: against the blitz and he just starts yelling at at Moster.
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Speaker 2: There there weren't see. There was a moment where I
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Speaker 2: thought it was going to get to like fun ugly,
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Speaker 2: and that was the sequence where the Broncos, who are
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Speaker 2: running it down the Raiders' throats, get to third and
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Speaker 2: one and then John Payton calls a trick play. Oh
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Speaker 2: my god, and they go backward five yards.
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Speaker 4: It was so bad.
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Speaker 2: And then and then they come up short on the
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Speaker 2: field goal attempt after that, losing five yards on the
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Speaker 2: third to one. And then the ensuing play is you know,
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Speaker 2: Smith hitting Ash and Genty in the chest and the
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Speaker 2: ball pops up for an interception. Like it just was like, okay,
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Speaker 2: now we're having some fun. Then there's a block punt.
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Speaker 2: But it didn't even continue to be fun. It just
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Speaker 2: it just was ugly.
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Speaker 3: You know that That miskick, by the way, is my
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Speaker 3: favorite example of an of a. It's the latest example
13:51
Speaker 3: of what my favorite new trend in football is, which
13:53
Speaker 3: is announcers being infatuated by the whole k ball juice
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Speaker 3: caball revolution and kickers can kick balls a mile now
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Speaker 3: and Will LUTs lines up for a fifty nine yarder,
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Speaker 3: no small feat and al Michaels is like he hit
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Speaker 3: these with these and warm ups.
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Speaker 4: And LUTs comes up like eight yards short.
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Speaker 3: I'm just like, yeah, maybe we don't think everybody can
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Speaker 3: hit sixty yarders routinely, Like let's be reminded that these
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Speaker 3: are humans.
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Speaker 2: And it was a windy night we should point out
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Speaker 2: with some of the offensive struggles, although like inaccurate passes,
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Speaker 2: weirdly of everything didn't seem like it was the biggest
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Speaker 2: issue in general on the night. Yeah, not everyone's going
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Speaker 2: to be able to hit. Although he did bounce it
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Speaker 2: in which if you tried to do that a hundred times,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you could, like the ball bounced
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Speaker 2: and went over to the crossbar.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they should make it a Doug Flutie dropkick, remember
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Speaker 3: that back in the day.
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Speaker 2: That that counts. Well, that's a little different. That's a
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Speaker 2: little about to bounce there. Start at the beginning. They
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Speaker 2: started this game. And it's been a really dark day
14:51
Speaker 2: in the NFL. And like I said, we're going to
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Speaker 2: do the power rankings right after this break. But there's
14:56
Speaker 2: no other great place to address this. But everyone listening
15:00
Speaker 2: probably knows right now what a what a difficult day
15:03
Speaker 2: this has been in the NFL. A lot of people
15:05
Speaker 2: woke up, myself included to the news that Marshawn Neil,
15:08
Speaker 2: and the twenty four year old defensive end of the
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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, died on Wednesday night, and the Dallas Police
15:18
Speaker 2: the Texas Department of Safety said he died of an
15:21
Speaker 2: apparent self inflicted gunshot wound after crashing his vehicle. And
15:28
Speaker 2: more reporting is out there. I'm reading the Athletic right
15:34
Speaker 2: now and in their reporting from the police, this is
15:36
Speaker 2: all directly from the police. You know, had a police
15:39
Speaker 2: dispatch where his girlfriend called and and said that he
15:44
Speaker 2: was having you know, suicidal thoughts and said that that
15:47
Speaker 2: was going to happen. And there were text messages that
15:49
Speaker 2: he sent. And there's nothing more you can do than
15:53
Speaker 2: just send your heart to to everyone that that knows
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Speaker 2: Marshawn Neelan and and of course to his family into
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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys and everyone struggling with mental illness out there.
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Speaker 2: The reporting also, you know, indicates it he had been
16:09
Speaker 2: struggling with a history of mental illness, and it's just
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Speaker 2: it's just an insidious thing. It impacted my family, my
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Speaker 2: life quite a bit and distressed in peace marsha On Neiland,
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Speaker 2: twenty four years old. Will We'll be back on the
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Speaker 2: other side. Okay, it's power ranking time. We've done similar
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Speaker 2: ish conversations. Who's in the Super Bowl? Mix kind of
16:44
Speaker 2: took stock of the league while we were in Ireland,
16:47
Speaker 2: but here we are. One game passed the midway point shook,
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Speaker 2: and I think it's time to just kind of break
16:53
Speaker 2: it down who we think are the best teams in
16:55
Speaker 2: the entire NFL. You made it a list, I made
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Speaker 2: a list, and we combined them, and now we're going
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Speaker 2: to talk about it, and we broke it into four
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Speaker 2: different sections, and we'll start we'll go bottom up. Let's
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Speaker 2: start with a they gone section self explanatory. They gone
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Speaker 2: dead last Tennessee Titans. We both had that. By the way,
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Speaker 2: I should have showed you my list so you know
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Speaker 2: where we agreed. Where we did. The New Orleans Saints
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Speaker 2: second to last, thirty one, we both agreed on that
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Speaker 2: completely as well number thirty the Jets twenty nine Raiders
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Speaker 2: did not help themselves tonight. Sad to see the Washington
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Speaker 2: Commanders who shook absolutely buried down at twenty eight. We
17:36
Speaker 2: got the Dolphins at twenty seven, Shooks Browns who had
17:39
Speaker 2: a little more faith in than me up at twenty six,
17:42
Speaker 2: and then the Giants at twenty five. And I broke
17:46
Speaker 2: them into sections. But this naturally to me, are like
17:49
Speaker 2: the teams that, if you see them on the schedule,
17:51
Speaker 2: shook your counting on a w Why did you have
17:55
Speaker 2: Washington that that low.
17:57
Speaker 3: Bit well, because they're just so banged up, Like I'm
17:59
Speaker 3: not talking about them being healthy, and now the way
18:01
Speaker 3: we looked at them going into the season, We're talking
18:02
Speaker 3: about Jadon Daniels dealing with his third injury, and they
18:05
Speaker 3: have so many losses on both sides of the ball.
18:07
Speaker 3: This is where we are at Week ten, and I
18:09
Speaker 3: don't expect the Washington Commanders to contend in most games
18:12
Speaker 3: that are ahead of them, even if they have Jade
18:15
Speaker 3: and Daniels available, just because that's how banged up they are.
18:18
Speaker 3: They have lost so much and we saw exactly what
18:21
Speaker 3: they are on Sunday night against the Seahawks.
18:24
Speaker 2: So yeah, you go, Gabriel Browns, Yes, you gotta below
18:29
Speaker 2: this thing can't stop anyone on the ground.
18:32
Speaker 3: I can't believe I have to defend the Browns. This
18:34
Speaker 3: is not me defending the Browns, but the Browns defense
18:36
Speaker 3: will at least keep them in a game. Washington could
18:39
Speaker 3: just get rolled by anybody because of all the losses
18:41
Speaker 3: they have personnel wise.
18:43
Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. Although it's it's a big week for
18:47
Speaker 2: not only draft positioning shook between the Jets and the
18:51
Speaker 2: and the Browns, but for the power rankings, because if
18:54
Speaker 2: they can't beat the Jets who are below them here,
18:57
Speaker 2: you know, then you're in trouble. And it shows that
18:59
Speaker 2: you're ranking.
19:00
Speaker 3: I like how you're revealing mine just without revealing yourself
19:02
Speaker 3: at all.
19:03
Speaker 2: I'm trying to try to find mine.
19:05
Speaker 4: I am the scapegoat.
19:07
Speaker 2: You are the scapegoat. If Okay Giants, twenty five Browns,
19:11
Speaker 2: you know, twenty six Dolphins. It's crazy to think that
19:13
Speaker 2: the commanders are behind those teams, but you're absolutely right. Like,
19:16
Speaker 2: who would I take on a neutral field right now?
19:18
Speaker 2: Dolphins commanders. I probably would take the Dolphins out. Which
19:21
Speaker 2: of these teams would you least want to play on
19:25
Speaker 2: a Sunday?
19:26
Speaker 4: Oh, it's undoubtedly the New York Giants. Like it's even close.
19:31
Speaker 3: Because Jackson Dart brings an element of aggression to this offense.
19:36
Speaker 4: He is a playmaker.
19:37
Speaker 3: I know that they've they lost Camskataboo and they've lost
19:40
Speaker 3: you know, Malik Neighbors, and he is an absolute warrior
19:43
Speaker 3: for them, Like watching them is still fun because of him,
19:45
Speaker 3: Like he is trying to carry this offense on their back.
19:48
Speaker 3: And I think their defense has enough talent to cause
19:51
Speaker 3: problems for a lesser team. So like, if the Browns
19:53
Speaker 3: are playing the Giants, I'm taking the Giants because I
19:54
Speaker 3: don't think the Browns can protect against that defense, and
19:56
Speaker 3: I think Jackson Dart eventually will find a way to
19:58
Speaker 3: score enough points to beat them.
20:00
Speaker 2: And Raiders fans out there, I had you thirtieth going
20:03
Speaker 2: into this game, and just ahead of the Saints and
20:06
Speaker 2: Titans twenty ninth. When you average me and check out,
20:11
Speaker 2: it's you're looking at thirty two pretty soon. It's a
20:16
Speaker 2: tough situation. All right, Let's go to the next segment.
20:19
Speaker 2: The next group is called stuck in the middle. So
20:21
Speaker 2: these teams have a chance to make the playoffs. Certainly
20:24
Speaker 2: number twenty four the Cincinnati Bengals, they're right on the
20:27
Speaker 2: edge of that. The Cowboys at twenty three, Falcons at
20:31
Speaker 2: twenty two. Disappointing season, the Carolina Panthers little disrespected here
20:36
Speaker 2: at twenty one, Texans at twenty, Cardinals at nineteen. Some
20:41
Speaker 2: love for the Cardinals considering their record. Eighteen for the
20:45
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears and seventeen of the Jacksonville Jaguars. So the
20:49
Speaker 2: Bears are five and three. Shook explained to me kind
20:53
Speaker 2: of your thought process of why they are here, and
20:57
Speaker 2: we did not disagree much there. You had them nineteen,
21:00
Speaker 2: I had him seventeen.
21:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're super close here.
21:03
Speaker 3: I think that the Bears could easily climb out of
21:05
Speaker 3: this tier because I love the development of their offense
21:10
Speaker 3: under Ben Johnson's direction, Like they are getting creative and
21:13
Speaker 3: running all kinds of wacky stuff that you don't expect,
21:15
Speaker 3: but they're also executing it. Now, Caleb is still a
21:18
Speaker 3: bit unsteady. He doesn't like his highlight plays are really
21:22
Speaker 3: fun to watch. But he's and he's getting more comfortable.
21:24
Speaker 3: He's getting better, but he's still not at that point
21:26
Speaker 3: where you're like, he's going to lead them to victory.
21:28
Speaker 3: Now he's done a couple times in clutch spots. But
21:31
Speaker 3: I have questions about their defense because they can't generate
21:34
Speaker 3: a pass rush to save their lives. So that's why
21:36
Speaker 3: they're kind of stuck in this tier. But I think
21:38
Speaker 3: if their offense continues on the trajectory they're currently on,
21:40
Speaker 3: they could climb out of it and get into the
21:42
Speaker 3: bottom of the next tier.
21:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think part of their issue is just the
21:46
Speaker 2: quality of their opponents. And you could say the same
21:49
Speaker 2: thing about the Patriots, but the Patriots quarterback's playing better
21:53
Speaker 2: and they're seven and two, so there is a little
21:55
Speaker 2: bit of a difference there. I just want to see
21:59
Speaker 2: more out of Spars team because I think the defense
22:02
Speaker 2: is struggling. The passing game is up and down, Like
22:05
Speaker 2: it looks better in the box score than the numbers,
22:09
Speaker 2: but they are trending up. And it is crazy to think, like, man,
22:12
Speaker 2: the league feels deep if the Jaguars are seventeen, yeah,
22:16
Speaker 2: and the Panthers are twenty first, And I think the
22:21
Speaker 2: Panthers are just an eye test thing ultimately, like, yeah,
22:25
Speaker 2: it is the year of the running game and everything,
22:27
Speaker 2: but if you can't consistently throw the ball and your
22:31
Speaker 2: defense is not a difference maker, and I don't consider
22:33
Speaker 2: the Panthers defense to be a difference maker. I think
22:35
Speaker 2: that's where they get edged out a little bit compared
22:38
Speaker 2: to teams like the Cardinals and the Texans, for instance,
22:41
Speaker 2: to me, have a higher upside despite their record. Right now,
22:44
Speaker 2: what was your thought process of kind of where they
22:46
Speaker 2: are versus say, the Cardinals and the Texans specific.
22:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm one of the last believers in the Texans,
22:51
Speaker 3: but their defense is very, very good, and it like,
22:54
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about with the Browns. They're going
22:55
Speaker 3: it's gonna keep them in most games, and if they
22:57
Speaker 3: get protect CJ. Stroud, who got knocked out by a
23:00
Speaker 3: cushion last week, then I think that they would be
23:03
Speaker 3: a competitive team against most teams, which is why they're
23:06
Speaker 3: ranked higher.
23:07
Speaker 4: And it's not to say that the Panthers aren't.
23:08
Speaker 3: They just upset the Packers, but we see the ceiling
23:10
Speaker 3: on their offense, especially if their running games not working.
23:13
Speaker 3: I think that the Panthers are on the right path
23:15
Speaker 3: and a year from now they'll be in a better place.
23:17
Speaker 3: You see, you know, signs of it on both sides
23:20
Speaker 3: of the ball. It's just that, like this is the
23:22
Speaker 3: build up to that. So that's kind of why they
23:24
Speaker 3: are where they are. But I also when we talk
23:26
Speaker 3: about the Jags being in this group at the top
23:28
Speaker 3: of this group mm hm, bitter recency not biased, but
23:31
Speaker 3: but recency influence with us because I could very easily
23:36
Speaker 3: see us putting the Vikings in that spot instead of
23:38
Speaker 3: the Jaguars, had the Vikings not just gone into Yea
23:41
Speaker 3: beating the line they just.
23:41
Speaker 2: Beat the Lions. You gotta add adapt to new information, right,
23:45
Speaker 2: and I think roster wise, they're better, right, and maybe
23:50
Speaker 2: it is confirming my priors. I thought they would get
23:53
Speaker 2: over eight and a half wins this year and they
23:55
Speaker 2: still have a chance to do so. There is a
23:57
Speaker 2: lot of talent the coaches. But yeah, you're you're hinting
23:59
Speaker 2: at who up next, so let's just do it. The
24:01
Speaker 2: next tier is frisky, and the Vikings are at the
24:03
Speaker 2: bottom of that tier. But these are the teams that
24:06
Speaker 2: you don't want to play them. I think it'd be
24:08
Speaker 2: a disappointment if they don't make the playoffs. But we're
24:10
Speaker 2: also just valuing where they are right now. Number sixteen,
24:13
Speaker 2: the Vikings, big jump, I think from where they would
24:16
Speaker 2: have been, Like you said, Shook last week at this time,
24:18
Speaker 2: the Chargers are at fifteen, a little lower than I
24:21
Speaker 2: expected they'd be in this exercise. The forty nine Ers fourteen,
24:25
Speaker 2: Ravens all the way up to thirteen despite the three
24:28
Speaker 2: and five record, but they are the Ravens. The Steelers
24:31
Speaker 2: at twelve, Broncos at eleven, and Patriots at ten. Now
24:35
Speaker 2: I got to say we did this assuming the Broncos
24:39
Speaker 2: are going to win this game, like roughly where they
24:41
Speaker 2: would be. I mean, I think just for making us
24:44
Speaker 2: go through this should maybe we should knock them down
24:47
Speaker 2: a couple of spots.
24:48
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we assume they were going to win.
24:51
Speaker 3: We didn't assume they're gonna win in the ugliest fashion possible. Yeah,
24:54
Speaker 3: and this is a fun kind of examination of where
24:57
Speaker 3: we differ too, because I had the Ravens all the
24:58
Speaker 3: way up at eleven because I just believe that if
25:01
Speaker 3: Lamar can be Lamar, that they're going to be right
25:04
Speaker 3: on the edge of that top ten. But yeah, the
25:06
Speaker 3: Broncos deserves let's drop them a couple spots and.
25:08
Speaker 4: I'm going to bought the Ravens up. Okay, I we
25:10
Speaker 4: should also defend this.
25:11
Speaker 2: So you already had them ahead of them. You had
25:13
Speaker 2: the Ravens at eleven. I had him at fifteen. And
25:15
Speaker 2: I guess what I would say to that, I did
25:17
Speaker 2: have them behind the forty nine Ers and the Chargers,
25:19
Speaker 2: and maybe I shouldn't. I'm talking about opponent I'm talking
25:24
Speaker 2: about like consistency. Okay, the Ravens didn't look amazing beating
25:30
Speaker 2: the Dolphins to me. I know it ended up being easy,
25:32
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like a game where you look at
25:35
Speaker 2: the numbers and everything that they were particularly dominant and
25:40
Speaker 2: you know they beat the Bears. That was a good
25:41
Speaker 2: effort with Tyler Huntley. I guess I just want to
25:43
Speaker 2: see them in a game like they are this week
25:45
Speaker 2: against a better opponent before I'm feeling like they're back back.
25:49
Speaker 2: So I punished them a little bit for that.
25:52
Speaker 4: That's fair.
25:52
Speaker 3: We should defend where we are putting the Chargers though,
25:54
Speaker 3: because I think this is accurate. And the reason is
25:57
Speaker 3: is the losses in the offensive line. We know we
25:59
Speaker 3: are bracing for offense being a challenge for them from
26:02
Speaker 3: here on out after losing Joe Alt for the rest
26:04
Speaker 3: of the season.
26:05
Speaker 2: So that and the defense hasn't been that good, right,
26:08
Speaker 2: Like I thought the defense would be better and it's
26:10
Speaker 2: been up and down.
26:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. I would agree with that.
26:13
Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers though, ahead of the now that I'm
26:16
Speaker 2: looking at it, like in my heart, forty nine ers
26:20
Speaker 2: considering their injuries. Actually I did have them below the Chargers,
26:24
Speaker 2: and I think you should have too, but you didn't.
26:26
Speaker 2: You know nothing.
26:27
Speaker 3: And I had the forty nine Ers ahead of the
26:28
Speaker 3: Chargers because I admire their scrappiness and their ability to
26:33
Speaker 3: extract wins out of thin air despite all the losses
26:35
Speaker 3: that they've had in personnel like that. I am still
26:37
Speaker 3: mystified by how they are still competitive every week given
26:40
Speaker 3: all the guys they don't have.
26:42
Speaker 2: I had the Patriots at eleven, you had them at ten.
26:44
Speaker 2: Do you think it's fair that they are not in
26:48
Speaker 2: our highest tier? Essentially that we're we're kind of saying
26:52
Speaker 2: with this tier to me, you know, you're not one
26:55
Speaker 2: of the real deal ones yet, and it's crazy to
26:59
Speaker 2: think that about the I guess he just want I
27:01
Speaker 2: want just a little more proof. But what do you
27:05
Speaker 2: think about not putting the Patriots or the Broncos or
27:08
Speaker 2: even the Steelers in like real deal Super Bowl contender status.
27:14
Speaker 3: I think that the Patriots are going to remind me
27:16
Speaker 3: of teams that played soft schedules and got you know,
27:18
Speaker 3: to the playoffs on the back of the soft schedule.
27:20
Speaker 3: Not to take away anything that they've done, because Drake
27:22
Speaker 3: may is the engine that drives that team forward and
27:24
Speaker 3: he's playing fantastic football, but I do think that if
27:27
Speaker 3: they end up facing higher level competition, they could get exposed,
27:30
Speaker 3: you know, on a given Sunday or whatever. So that's
27:32
Speaker 3: why they sit at ten. For me, the Steelers, I
27:36
Speaker 3: sound like a hater. They're just very up and down.
27:40
Speaker 3: Like the way that they dominated the Colts statistically with
27:42
Speaker 3: turnovers and everything else was shocking. But yet they only
27:46
Speaker 3: won that game by a touchdown, and so that kind
27:48
Speaker 3: of points to sign to me that, like, I think
27:49
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is playing very good football for them right now.
27:51
Speaker 3: He's got complete command of that offense when he's given
27:53
Speaker 3: when he's empowered to run that offense. But I think
27:57
Speaker 3: that there is not fraudulent in them, but just a
28:00
Speaker 3: visible ceiling with them, which is why I have them
28:02
Speaker 3: where they are.
28:02
Speaker 2: And it's funny. If we had done this segment before
28:05
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football, Broncos fans would have been annoyed, I
28:10
Speaker 2: think at how low they are. And now after Thursday
28:13
Speaker 2: Night Football, even though they got to win, I feel
28:16
Speaker 2: like the bow Knicks nation, the bow leievers, will just
28:18
Speaker 2: like be a little quieter.
28:20
Speaker 3: I got to give them a lot of credit. A
28:23
Speaker 3: big shout out for me because I get a lot
28:26
Speaker 3: of hate for the QB Index every week. It's part
28:27
Speaker 3: of you know, it comes with the game. Bo Knicks
28:30
Speaker 3: fans have not gotten in my DMS or my mentions
28:32
Speaker 3: once and in fact, I've had a little bit of
28:34
Speaker 3: back and forth with Broncos fans, like when I'm streaming
28:36
Speaker 3: on Twitch or whatever, They're in agreement, like they underst
28:39
Speaker 3: they're realists with him and they understand where he is
28:41
Speaker 3: right now. So shout out to you guys for not
28:43
Speaker 3: letting your emotions cloud your judgment.
28:46
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Broncos fans for the most incredible
28:50
Speaker 2: Bronx cheer on Thursday night when their punter finally had
28:55
Speaker 2: a good punt because he kept punting it off the
28:59
Speaker 2: side of his foot, they were booing the hell out
29:02
Speaker 2: of bow Nicks and the Broncos offense. They did it
29:05
Speaker 2: going into halftime, they did it coming out of halftime
29:08
Speaker 2: when they went three and out out of halftime, and
29:10
Speaker 2: then he hit this punt which was his first decent
29:13
Speaker 2: punt of the night, and they gave him a loud
29:15
Speaker 2: ass Bronx cheer for a punt that was amazing.
29:18
Speaker 3: Just that this is coming off of the back of
29:22
Speaker 3: him launching absolute rockets a week earlier, like to the
29:26
Speaker 3: point where I tweeted, I was like, he has a
29:27
Speaker 3: mortar cannon, like a mortar launcher on his leg, like that's.
29:30
Speaker 4: What his leg is.
29:31
Speaker 3: And then he goes out there to night and just
29:32
Speaker 3: sends like ground balls out there.
29:34
Speaker 4: You know that punting's hard. Man football was hard.
29:36
Speaker 2: It is crazy that punting was like the most entertaining
29:38
Speaker 2: thing in the game. Aj Cole the Raiders had two
29:41
Speaker 2: punts go inside the two yard line. That's the first
29:43
Speaker 2: time that's happened in the same game in like five years.
29:45
Speaker 2: Not surprising there. And then he also had a block
29:47
Speaker 2: punt that basically won the Broncos. The game set them
29:51
Speaker 2: up on a short field goal, and that's how they
29:52
Speaker 2: got their short field and that's how they got their
29:55
Speaker 2: you know, winning field goal. Let's do the title contender.
29:58
Speaker 2: I'm calling this the real Ones. It really shows what
30:01
Speaker 2: a crazy year this is, because I think you could
30:04
Speaker 2: shake up these nine teams in any direction, and I'm
30:08
Speaker 2: not going to argue too much with it. Number nine
30:10
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Number eight is Green Bay lower
30:14
Speaker 2: than I expected, And it is interesting when you force
30:17
Speaker 2: yourself to do this exercise and you realize, like, wow,
30:20
Speaker 2: the Packers down there, although I had them highering you.
30:22
Speaker 2: Number seven, the Detroit Lions, number six, We have the
30:26
Speaker 2: Colts five, the Buffalo Bills. The Chiefs, despite losing last week,
30:31
Speaker 2: is actually ahead of the Bills. And that's why I
30:33
Speaker 2: like power rankings. They shouldn't just be you know, your record,
30:37
Speaker 2: number three, the LA Rams, number two Philadelphia Eagles, and
30:41
Speaker 2: number one the Seattle Seahawks up at number one. I
30:45
Speaker 2: was surprised, shook, we were on the same page with
30:49
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. You had them very high. Was it number one?
30:53
Speaker 2: I believe it was number two for you, but it
30:55
Speaker 2: averaged out to being number one. You had the Chiefs won,
30:59
Speaker 2: and that was the rising the Seahawks, two, Eagle three.
31:02
Speaker 2: So what strikes you the most just looking at this
31:05
Speaker 2: list of the best nine teams, and then I'll tell
31:09
Speaker 2: you what stands out to me.
31:11
Speaker 3: So this season feels like we've gotten more parody in
31:14
Speaker 3: the league than we've gotten in probably the last five
31:15
Speaker 3: or seven years. And I think that this group really
31:18
Speaker 3: illustrates that. Because this was the most difficult part of
31:21
Speaker 3: this exercise for me.
31:22
Speaker 4: Because I'm getting at one Chiefs. Yeah, they lost the Bills.
31:26
Speaker 4: They had a terrible game.
31:27
Speaker 3: That was the bills best showing in years defensively at least.
31:30
Speaker 3: And I think that if you play that game ten times,
31:32
Speaker 3: it might turn out differently, you know, a few different times.
31:34
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to put too much stock into
31:36
Speaker 4: a regular season win over the Chiefs, I felt.
31:39
Speaker 3: I still feel confident as though if I had to
31:41
Speaker 3: take any team in a neutral site or in a
31:44
Speaker 3: playoff game Homer away, I would still say.
31:46
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid the Kansas City Chiefs.
31:49
Speaker 3: But once we got past the Chiefs and the Seahawks,
31:51
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, Like, what do I think
31:53
Speaker 3: about the rest of these guys? Because the Eagles have,
31:55
Speaker 3: you know, the personnel to get it done. They had
31:57
Speaker 3: the drama, but they're also you know, they're coming off
31:59
Speaker 3: of two quality wins. The Rams are like lurking as
32:02
Speaker 3: this team that people aren't paying attention to, but they're
32:04
Speaker 3: playing phenomenal football, especially offensively. Lion's coming off of a
32:07
Speaker 3: loss of the Vikings, but there's still the Lions. We
32:09
Speaker 3: still respect them. Bills are lower for me than five.
32:13
Speaker 3: Actually had them at six just because I still need
32:15
Speaker 3: it proven to me, like you need the Ravens to.
32:16
Speaker 4: Prove it to you.
32:17
Speaker 3: Like I get down to like six, seven, eight nine,
32:19
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh God, I forgot about the Buccaneers.
32:21
Speaker 3: Wait right, we have all these injuries on offense. Can
32:24
Speaker 3: they still do it? The Packers. I don't believe in
32:26
Speaker 3: them fully right now because of some of the performances
32:28
Speaker 3: they've produced recently. And the Colts Daniel Jones scared me
32:31
Speaker 3: back into being hesitant about them with accounting for five
32:34
Speaker 3: of their six turnovers.
32:35
Speaker 4: So it's really hard to sort.
32:36
Speaker 3: These guys out right now, which is why the NFL
32:38
Speaker 3: is incredibly fun to watch.
32:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, first of all, it's six NFC teams, three AFC,
32:44
Speaker 2: So I think I shocked. Yeah, it just I think
32:49
Speaker 2: there's more really good teams this year than most years.
32:52
Speaker 2: I actually it is parody, but I don't think it's
32:56
Speaker 2: mediocrity because we looked at that group from ten to
33:01
Speaker 2: sixteen and those are good teams too. So the bad
33:06
Speaker 2: teams are really bad this year for sure, but I
33:09
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of good teams at the top.
33:11
Speaker 2: Like all these teams, for almost all of them have
33:14
Speaker 2: had multi year kind of build ups to this moment,
33:18
Speaker 2: you know, like Mike McDonald, it's only a second year,
33:22
Speaker 2: but man, they're so different than they were, you know,
33:25
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, and they've been in this rebuild ish phase
33:29
Speaker 2: for the last couple of years. They called it a
33:30
Speaker 2: sprint rebuild that's peaking right now. The Eagles are in
33:33
Speaker 2: the middle of their primes, the Chiefs are that are
33:35
Speaker 2: the Chiefs obviously, and like even the Bucks, like they've
33:39
Speaker 2: been building to this moment. So it's not like other
33:41
Speaker 2: than the Colts, there's not like a big surprise team,
33:44
Speaker 2: and there's not a team that like feels like it
33:47
Speaker 2: came out of nowhere. And yet the Colts when and
33:49
Speaker 2: I've talked about this this week, when you look at it,
33:51
Speaker 2: like that team has about as much continuity and veterans
33:54
Speaker 2: and guys who have been on that roster for four
33:56
Speaker 2: or five years than anyone. So I just like that
33:58
Speaker 2: we're like really familiar, you're with all these teams, and
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Speaker 2: I think they all have a shot to win the
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. And the biggest disagreement we had here, well
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Speaker 2: there were a couple, but we were only three spots
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Speaker 2: apart on any team, But I had the Colts still
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Speaker 2: at four. Maybe that's too high, but I believe in
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Speaker 2: transcendent offenses, and I just think they have a chance
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Speaker 2: to be a transcendent offense. Is their offense, like the
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Speaker 2: does it have a chance to be the best thing
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Speaker 2: in the NFL? I think it has a chance, so
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Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong.
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Speaker 3: I mean, because of the continuity, that's probably the strongest
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Speaker 3: argument for them that they could have the best offense
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Speaker 3: the NFL. I mean, they've certainly put up a lot
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Speaker 3: of points, but you also have to consider opponent when
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Speaker 3: you examine some of their victories. I actually want to
34:48
Speaker 3: step into our therapist's office real quick. I'm the therapist and
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Speaker 3: I'm also the patient here because this is a great
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Speaker 3: demonstration of the difference between you and me and my
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Speaker 3: abandonment issues. The Colts burned me once, and I'm like, nope,
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Speaker 3: I'm off the ship. I'm not, but you can't hurt
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Speaker 3: me twice. Colts, I'm not gonna let you hurt me again.
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Speaker 3: I'm running away from you. Whereas you are more of
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Speaker 3: an open hearted believer, like they said on the Monday
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Speaker 3: Night recap, Greg has kind eyes.
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Speaker 4: You have a kind heart too. You're willing to let
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Speaker 4: the Colts have a bad Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Maybe, or maybe I just stick with my priors and
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Speaker 2: I just spent the week, you know, gassing them up
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Speaker 2: before they stunk up the joint. And like a team
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Speaker 2: like the Bills are, I think they have fundamental things
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Speaker 2: that I worry about and yet man, they are a
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Speaker 2: good problem solving team like the Chiefs. So if I
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Speaker 2: had to do it again, maybe I would have flipped
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Speaker 2: it and the Bills would have been a little bit higher,
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Speaker 2: because like the Chiefs, they deserve the benefit of doubt
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Speaker 2: if they're going to like create solutions to the problems
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Speaker 2: that the season gives them. And you can kind of
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Speaker 2: see it the last couple of weeks. Do we know
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Speaker 2: that the Colts are going to do that? We don't
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Speaker 2: know because we haven't seen it, and we are putting
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Speaker 2: a lot of faith there in the Seahawks. I hadem one,
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Speaker 2: you had them two. But man, it's a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, we got a game this weekend
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Speaker 2: with two of these top teams playing. That's all I
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Speaker 2: want out of each week, at least one or two
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Speaker 2: games where you know, two of these nine teams are
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Speaker 2: playing each other. And yeah, we got a nice Packers
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Speaker 2: Eagles game and the Patriots not too far out of
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Speaker 2: this tier. Play in the Bucks is a really good
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Speaker 2: one nine versus ten if you look at the windows,
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Speaker 2: I know we had a bad primetime game shook, but
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Speaker 2: this is sneakily one of the best weeks of the
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Speaker 2: year because we have Pats Bucks in that early window
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Speaker 2: along with Ravens Vikings, which I think is really fun.
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Speaker 2: That's a great game, and the primetime windows are absolutely great.
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Speaker 2: In the four to twenty five window, we have Rams
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, which I think is good enough to
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Speaker 2: hold that window. It's like every window has has a nice,
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Speaker 2: delicious game.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's like a relief, and it's also excites me when
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Speaker 3: I see a good Monday nighter, and Eagles Packers is
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Speaker 3: going to be a good Monday nighter.
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Speaker 2: We need it. We'll be live and we appreciate everyone
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Speaker 2: who's been listening to all our recaps this season. And
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Speaker 2: that's it for this one. We will be next in
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Speaker 2: the feed. Cynthia Friedland and I we push back the
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Speaker 2: pick show a little bit this week because everything's been
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Speaker 2: a little up in the air. So we have our
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Speaker 2: picks against the spread that'll be on Friday afternoon. We
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Speaker 2: will see them and we can only hope to do
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Speaker 2: better at our jobs than the Raiders and the Broncos
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Speaker 2: offenses did not see it.
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Speaker 3: Frighten