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How to Create a Children's Book Series (From Idea to Multiple Books) · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:19
  Good
• 4:19
  morning
• 4:20
  or
• 4:20
  afternoon
• 4:21
  or
• 4:21
  evening,
• 4:22
  everyone.
• 4:22
  My
• 4:23
  name
• 4:23
  is
• 4:23
  Donnetta
• 4:24
  Anthony
• 4:24
  and
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  title
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  my
• 4:26
  book
• 4:26
  is
• 4:26
  Ella
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  Learns
• 4:28
  to
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  Dance.
• 4:29
  Thanks,
• 4:29
  Donnetta,
• 4:30
  for
• 4:30
  appearing
• 4:31
  on
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  Adventures
• 4:31
  in
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  the
• 4:32
  Heart
• 4:32
  of
• 4:32
  Children's
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  Book
• 4:33
  Authors
• 4:33
  podcast.
• 4:35
  Like
• 4:35
  Snetta
• 4:36
  has
• 4:36
  mentioned,
• 4:37
  she's
• 4:37
  written
• 4:38
  her
• 4:38
  book
• 4:38
  Ella
• 4:39
  Learns
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  Dance,
• 4:40
  and
• 4:40
  we're
• 4:41
  also
• 4:41
  going
• 4:42
  to
• 4:42
  touch
• 4:42
  base
• 4:43
  on
• 4:44
  one
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  Sinetta's
• 4:45
  other
• 4:46
  books
• 4:46
  that
• 4:47
  she
• 4:47
  wrote
• 4:47
  a
• 4:47
  while
• 4:48
  back
• 4:48
  and
• 4:48
  I'm
• 4:49
  looking
• 4:49
  forward
• 4:49
  to.
• 4:52
  Before
• 4:52
  we
• 4:52
  get
• 4:53
  into
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  details
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  Ella
• 4:54
  Learns
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  Dance,
• 4:55
  can
• 4:55
  you
• 4:56
  tell
• 4:56
  us
• 4:57
  what
• 4:58
  it
• 4:58
  means
• 4:59
  being
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  children's
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  book
• 5:00
  author
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  to
• 5:01
  you?
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  It
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  means
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  a
• 5:02
  lot
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  because
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  I
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  was
• 5:04
  an
• 5:04
  educator
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  for
• 5:05
  22
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  years
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  was
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  always
• 5:08
  telling
• 5:09
  stories
• 5:09
  and
• 5:10
  always
• 5:10
  reading,
• 5:12
  I
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  would
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  say
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  hundreds,
• 5:13
  almost
• 5:14
  thousands
• 5:14
  of
• 5:15
  books.
• 5:16
  Being
• 5:16
  a
• 5:16
  children's
• 5:17
  authority
• 5:18
  helped
• 5:18
  me
• 5:19
  to
• 5:19
  bring
• 5:20
  not
• 5:20
  just
• 5:20
  the
• 5:21
  classroom
• 5:22
  to
• 5:22
  the
• 5:23
  books,
• 5:23
  but
• 5:23
  bring
• 5:24
  my
• 5:24
  books
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  classroom,
• 5:25
  which
• 5:25
  is
• 5:26
  most
• 5:26
  important.
• 5:27
  I
• 5:28
  never
• 5:28
  thought
• 5:29
  about
• 5:29
  being
• 5:29
  a
• 5:30
  children's
• 5:30
  author
• 5:30
  because
• 5:31
  I
• 5:31
  was
• 5:31
  in
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  classroom,
• 5:32
  but
• 5:33
  I
• 5:33
  always
• 5:33
  felt
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  as
• 5:34
  if
• 5:34
  I
• 5:35
  was
• 5:35
  a
• 5:35
  storyteller
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  because
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  I
• 5:37
  would
• 5:38
  take
• 5:38
  books
• 5:38
  like
• 5:38
  yours,
• 5:39
  for
• 5:39
  instance,
• 5:40
  and
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  I
• 5:41
  would
• 5:41
  recreate
• 5:42
  them.
• 5:43
  Oh,
• 5:43
  knee.
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  would
• 5:45
  read
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  a
• 5:46
  book
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  we
• 5:47
  would
• 5:47
  always
• 5:47
  recreate
• 5:48
  those
• 5:49
  books,
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  whatever
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  they
• 5:50
  were.
• 5:51
  The
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  three
• 5:51
  bears
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  and
• 5:52
  what
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  is
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  other
• 5:53
  one?
• 5:53
  The
• 5:54
  pigs
• 5:54
  and
• 5:55
  all
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  that.
• 5:55
  Those
• 5:56
  were
• 5:56
  some
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  my
• 5:57
  students
• 5:57
  favorite
• 5:58
  books
• 5:58
  to
• 5:59
  recreate.
• 6:01
  Becoming
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  children's
• 6:02
  author,
• 6:03
  it
• 6:03
  was
• 6:03
  not
• 6:04
  necessarily
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  on
• 6:05
  my
• 6:05
  radar
• 6:05
  of
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  things
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  to
• 6:06
  do,
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  but
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  I'm
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  glad
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  I
• 6:09
  did
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  it.
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  Fantastic.
• 6:10
  And
• 6:10
  I
• 6:11
  noticed
• 6:11
  you
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  wrote
• 6:12
  your
• 6:12
  first
• 6:12
  children's
• 6:13
  book
• 6:13
  back
• 6:13
  in
• 6:14
  2018.
• 6:16
  Yes.
• 6:17
  And
• 6:18
  so
• 6:18
  what
• 6:18
  was
• 6:18
  the
• 6:19
  difference
• 6:19
  from
• 6:21
  your
• 6:21
  first
• 6:22
  children's
• 6:22
  book?
• 6:22
  And
• 6:23
  here
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  are,
• 6:24
  you're
• 6:24
  a
• 6:24
  newly
• 6:24
  minted
• 6:25
  children's
• 6:25
  book
• 6:26
  author,
• 6:26
  and
• 6:27
  then
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  a
• 6:28
  few
• 6:28
  years
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  later,
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  you
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  write
• 6:30
  your
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  and
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  publish
• 6:31
  your
• 6:31
  second
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  children's
• 6:32
  book.
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  How
• 6:33
  did
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  change
• 6:34
  your
• 6:34
  view
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  being
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  children's
• 6:35
  book
• 6:36
  authority?
• 6:38
  First
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  all,
• 6:38
  it
• 6:38
  was
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  learning
• 6:39
  process.
• 6:40
  Had
• 6:40
  never
• 6:40
  written
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  book,
• 6:41
  didn't
• 6:41
  know
• 6:41
  anything
• 6:42
  about
• 6:42
  publishing,
• 6:43
  didn't
• 6:43
  know
• 6:43
  anything
• 6:43
  about
• 6:44
  marketing.
• 6:45
  Nothing
• 6:46
  at
• 6:46
  all.
• 6:46
  So
• 6:47
  writing
• 6:47
  a
• 6:48
  book.
• 6:48
  I
• 6:49
  went
• 6:49
  to
• 6:50
  a
• 6:50
  couple
• 6:50
  of
• 6:50
  classes
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  initially
• 6:52
  when
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  was
• 6:52
  writing
• 6:53
  my
• 6:53
  first
• 6:53
  book,
• 6:54
  got
• 6:55
  some
• 6:55
  information,
• 6:56
  but
• 6:56
  it
• 6:57
  still
• 6:57
  wasn't
• 6:58
  what
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  needed.
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  When
• 7:00
  my
• 7:00
  book
• 7:01
  got
• 7:01
  published,
• 7:01
  my
• 7:01
  first
• 7:02
  but
• 7:02
  got
• 7:02
  published
• 7:03
  in
• 7:03
  2018,
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  was
• 7:04
  jumping
• 7:05
  up
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  down
• 7:05
  around
• 7:05
  the
• 7:06
  house.
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  was
• 7:06
  excited,
• 7:08
  but
• 7:08
  didn't
• 7:08
  know
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  that
• 7:10
  there's
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  lot
• 7:12
  that
• 7:12
  goes
• 7:12
  into
• 7:13
  publishing
• 7:13
  a
• 7:14
  book.
• 7:14
  The
• 7:15
  writing
• 7:15
  part,
• 7:15
  the
• 7:16
  illustration
• 7:16
  part,
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  like
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  said,
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  marketing
• 7:18
  part,
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  promotion
• 7:20
  part,
• 7:21
  all
• 7:21
  of
• 7:21
  that.
• 7:21
  And
• 7:22
  so
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  considered
• 7:23
  myself
• 7:23
  as
• 7:24
  okay.
• 7:24
  I
• 7:25
  published
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  book.
• 7:26
  Now
• 7:26
  what
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  had
• 7:27
  told
• 7:28
  some
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  my
• 7:28
  friends
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  told
• 7:29
  some
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  My
• 7:30
  family.
• 7:31
  And
• 7:31
  for
• 7:32
  a
• 7:32
  moment,
• 7:33
  I'm
• 7:34
  gonna
• 7:34
  say
• 7:34
  about
• 7:34
  a
• 7:35
  year
• 7:35
  or
• 7:35
  two.
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  never
• 7:36
  told
• 7:37
  anybody
• 7:37
  I
• 7:38
  was
• 7:38
  a
• 7:38
  children's
• 7:39
  author.
• 7:39
  It
• 7:39
  was
• 7:40
  just
• 7:40
  in
• 7:40
  my
• 7:40
  immediate
• 7:41
  circle.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  don't
• 7:43
  know
• 7:43
  if
• 7:43
  I
• 7:43
  was
• 7:43
  embarrassed
• 7:44
  or
• 7:44
  what,
• 7:45
  but
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  was
• 7:45
  still
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  the
• 7:46
  classroom
• 7:47
  and
• 7:47
  so
• 7:47
  my
• 7:48
  attention
• 7:49
  was
• 7:50
  my
• 7:50
  students
• 7:51
  and
• 7:51
  not
• 7:52
  necessarily
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  book.
• 7:53
  Take
• 7:54
  your
• 7:54
  book
• 7:54
  to
• 7:54
  your
• 7:54
  students.
• 7:56
  Yes,
• 7:56
  I
• 7:57
  did.
• 7:57
  Oh,
• 7:57
  fantastic.
• 7:59
  And
• 7:59
  tell
• 7:59
  everybody
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  name
• 8:00
  of
• 8:00
  your
• 8:01
  first
• 8:01
  book.
• 8:02
  Okay,
• 8:02
  so
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  name
• 8:03
  of
• 8:03
  my
• 8:03
  first
• 8:03
  book
• 8:04
  is
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  Love
• 8:04
  Story.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:06
  so
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  did
• 8:07
  take
• 8:07
  that
• 8:07
  to
• 8:08
  my
• 8:08
  class.
• 8:10
  That
• 8:10
  was
• 8:10
  an
• 8:11
  eye
• 8:11
  opening
• 8:12
  experience.
• 8:13
  In
• 8:14
  what
• 8:14
  manner?
• 8:15
  Okay,
• 8:15
  so
• 8:16
  you
• 8:16
  don't
• 8:16
  want
• 8:17
  to
• 8:17
  know
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  truth.
• 8:21
  You
• 8:22
  do
• 8:22
  not
• 8:22
  ask
• 8:22
  a
• 8:22
  group.
• 8:24
  I
• 8:24
  was
• 8:24
  teaching
• 8:24
  preschool
• 8:25
  at
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  time,
• 8:26
  so
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  don't
• 8:26
  want
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  act.
• 8:27
  A
• 8:27
  group
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  four
• 8:28
  or
• 8:28
  five
• 8:29
  years
• 8:29
  old,
• 8:30
  what
• 8:30
  do
• 8:30
  they
• 8:30
  really
• 8:31
  think?
• 8:33
  Your
• 8:34
  feelings
• 8:35
  can
• 8:35
  get
• 8:35
  hurt
• 8:36
  very
• 8:37
  easily.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  so
• 8:39
  they
• 8:39
  told
• 8:39
  me
• 8:39
  what
• 8:40
  they
• 8:40
  like,
• 8:40
  what
• 8:40
  they
• 8:41
  didn't
• 8:41
  like.
• 8:41
  The
• 8:42
  pictures,
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  words.
• 8:43
  Well,
• 8:43
  they
• 8:44
  said,
• 8:44
  we
• 8:44
  already
• 8:44
  heard
• 8:45
  that
• 8:45
  story
• 8:45
  before.
• 8:46
  We
• 8:46
  don't
• 8:46
  need
• 8:46
  to
• 8:47
  hear
• 8:48
  out
• 8:48
  of.
• 8:48
  The
• 8:48
  mouths
• 8:49
  of
• 8:49
  babes.
• 8:51
  So
• 8:51
  they
• 8:52
  were
• 8:52
  and
• 8:53
  continue
• 8:53
  to
• 8:53
  be
• 8:54
  my
• 8:54
  first
• 8:55
  audience.
• 8:55
  No
• 8:55
  matter
• 8:56
  what
• 8:56
  book
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  put
• 8:57
  out,
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  people
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  go
• 8:59
  to,
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  may
• 9:00
  like
• 9:00
  it,
• 9:01
  adults
• 9:02
  may
• 9:02
  like
• 9:02
  it,
• 9:03
  but
• 9:04
  when
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  take
• 9:04
  it
• 9:05
  before
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  group
• 9:05
  of
• 9:06
  children,
• 9:06
  they're
• 9:07
  going
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  give
• 9:07
  me
• 9:08
  their
• 9:08
  honest
• 9:09
  answers
• 9:09
  and
• 9:11
  that
• 9:12
  helps
• 9:12
  me
• 9:13
  to
• 9:14
  develop
• 9:14
  into,
• 9:15
  maybe
• 9:15
  I
• 9:16
  need
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  change
• 9:16
  this
• 9:17
  or
• 9:17
  maybe
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  need
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  do
• 9:19
  something
• 9:19
  here.
• 9:19
  Maybe
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  need
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  add
• 9:20
  another
• 9:21
  character.
• 9:22
  Maybe
• 9:22
  this
• 9:23
  illustration
• 9:23
  doesn't
• 9:24
  work
• 9:24
  with
• 9:25
  this
• 9:25
  particular
• 9:26
  page
• 9:26
  or
• 9:27
  something
• 9:27
  like
• 9:27
  that.
• 9:28
  And
• 9:28
  so
• 9:29
  being
• 9:29
  a
• 9:29
  teacher,
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  learned
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  lot.
• 9:31
  Although
• 9:31
  I'm
• 9:31
  not
• 9:32
  teaching,
• 9:33
  I'm
• 9:33
  volunteering,
• 9:34
  but
• 9:35
  I'm
• 9:35
  not
• 9:36
  specifically
• 9:37
  in
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  classroom.
• 9:38
  It's
• 9:38
  interesting
• 9:39
  you
• 9:39
  should
• 9:39
  say
• 9:39
  that,
• 9:39
  Stanetto,
• 9:40
  because
• 9:41
  I've
• 9:41
  written
• 9:42
  several
• 9:42
  stories
• 9:43
  with
• 9:43
  my
• 9:43
  grandchildren,
• 9:45
  and
• 9:45
  one
• 9:45
  of
• 9:46
  the
• 9:46
  things
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  we
• 9:46
  do
• 9:47
  is
• 9:47
  we
• 9:47
  actually
• 9:48
  read
• 9:48
  them
• 9:48
  out
• 9:49
  loud
• 9:49
  together.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:51
  that's
• 9:51
  when
• 9:51
  the.
• 9:52
  The
• 9:52
  critic
• 9:53
  comes
• 9:53
  out
• 9:53
  and
• 9:54
  they
• 9:54
  say,
• 9:54
  papa.
• 9:56
  Children
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  this
• 9:57
  age
• 9:58
  wouldn't
• 9:58
  say
• 9:58
  that
• 9:59
  word.
• 9:59
  You
• 9:59
  end
• 10:00
  up
• 10:00
  changing
• 10:00
  words
• 10:01
  and,
• 10:01
  and
• 10:02
  changing
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  story
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  bit.
• 10:03
  But
• 10:03
  isn't
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  marvelous?
• 10:05
  When
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  have
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  audience
• 10:07
  that
• 10:07
  you're
• 10:08
  writing
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  book
• 10:08
  for
• 10:09
  help
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  along.
• 10:10
  Your
• 10:11
  journey,
• 10:12
  it
• 10:12
  is
• 10:12
  because
• 10:13
  they
• 10:13
  are.
• 10:14
  We
• 10:14
  have
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  consider
• 10:15
  as
• 10:16
  children's
• 10:16
  authority
• 10:17
  that
• 10:18
  although
• 10:18
  the
• 10:19
  parents
• 10:19
  buy
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  book,
• 10:20
  or
• 10:20
  grandparents
• 10:21
  or
• 10:21
  whomever
• 10:21
  by
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  books,
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  one
• 10:23
  who
• 10:24
  is
• 10:24
  really
• 10:24
  gonna
• 10:25
  really
• 10:26
  like
• 10:26
  it
• 10:26
  or
• 10:27
  not
• 10:27
  like
• 10:27
  it
• 10:27
  is
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  child.
• 10:29
  Of
• 10:29
  course
• 10:29
  you
• 10:30
  want
• 10:30
  everyone
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  buy
• 10:31
  your
• 10:31
  book,
• 10:32
  but
• 10:33
  I
• 10:34
  want
• 10:34
  my
• 10:34
  message
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  home
• 10:35
  in
• 10:36
  with
• 10:36
  those
• 10:36
  children,
• 10:37
  whatever
• 10:37
  messages,
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  want
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  hone
• 10:39
  in.
• 10:39
  With
• 10:39
  them,
• 10:40
  tell
• 10:40
  us
• 10:40
  the
• 10:41
  inspiration
• 10:41
  behind
• 10:42
  it.
• 10:42
  Ella
• 10:43
  learns
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  Dance.
• 10:44
  So
• 10:44
  how
• 10:45
  did
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  come
• 10:45
  up
• 10:45
  with
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  idea?
• 10:46
  How
• 10:47
  did
• 10:47
  it
• 10:47
  all
• 10:47
  begin?
• 10:49
  Okay,
• 10:49
  Ella
• 10:49
  learns
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  dance
• 10:50
  is
• 10:51
  based
• 10:51
  on
• 10:51
  me.
• 10:52
  I
• 10:53
  actually
• 10:53
  chose
• 10:54
  an
• 10:54
  elephant.
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  do
• 10:55
  not
• 10:56
  know
• 10:56
  how
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  dance.
• 10:57
  Okay.
• 10:58
  I
• 10:59
  think
• 10:59
  I
• 10:59
  know,
• 10:59
  but
• 11:00
  I
• 11:00
  really
• 11:00
  don't.
• 11:01
  Her
• 11:02
  heart
• 11:02
  came
• 11:03
  from
• 11:03
  me
• 11:04
  because
• 11:04
  she
• 11:04
  was
• 11:05
  discouraged
• 11:05
  by
• 11:05
  friends
• 11:06
  still
• 11:06
  to
• 11:07
  today,
• 11:07
  if
• 11:07
  I'm
• 11:08
  dancing
• 11:08
  somewhere,
• 11:09
  and
• 11:09
  they
• 11:09
  were
• 11:09
  like,
• 11:09
  you
• 11:10
  just
• 11:10
  need
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  sit
• 11:10
  down
• 11:11
  and.
• 11:12
  But
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  still
• 11:12
  keep
• 11:12
  dancing.
• 11:14
  And
• 11:14
  so
• 11:14
  that
• 11:14
  was
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  thing
• 11:15
  behind
• 11:16
  Ella
• 11:16
  was
• 11:16
  she
• 11:17
  was
• 11:17
  discouraged
• 11:18
  by
• 11:18
  her
• 11:18
  friends
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  follow
• 11:19
  her
• 11:20
  dream
• 11:20
  to
• 11:21
  become
• 11:21
  a
• 11:21
  ballet
• 11:22
  dancer.
• 11:23
  And
• 11:23
  because
• 11:24
  she's
• 11:24
  an
• 11:24
  elephant,
• 11:25
  she
• 11:25
  doesn't
• 11:26
  look
• 11:26
  like
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  traditional
• 11:28
  ballet
• 11:28
  dancer.
• 11:30
  And
• 11:30
  then
• 11:30
  also
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  importance
• 11:32
  of
• 11:32
  following
• 11:32
  your
• 11:33
  dream.
• 11:34
  And
• 11:34
  so
• 11:35
  as
• 11:35
  a
• 11:35
  children's
• 11:35
  author,
• 11:36
  although
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  didn't
• 11:37
  consider
• 11:38
  myself
• 11:38
  one,
• 11:39
  after
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  wrote
• 11:40
  my
• 11:40
  first
• 11:40
  book,
• 11:40
  it
• 11:41
  was
• 11:41
  like,
• 11:41
  oh,
• 11:42
  a
• 11:42
  budding
• 11:42
  out
• 11:43
  there
• 11:43
  as
• 11:44
  it's
• 11:44
  following
• 11:44
  your
• 11:45
  dream.
• 11:45
  Ella
• 11:46
  had
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  follow
• 11:47
  her
• 11:47
  dream
• 11:47
  regardless
• 11:48
  of
• 11:48
  her
• 11:48
  critics,
• 11:49
  regardless
• 11:50
  of
• 11:50
  even
• 11:50
  how
• 11:51
  she
• 11:51
  felt
• 11:52
  within
• 11:52
  herself.
• 11:54
  And
• 11:54
  so
• 11:54
  with
• 11:55
  children
• 11:55
  and
• 11:56
  adults
• 11:56
  as
• 11:56
  well,
• 11:58
  sometimes
• 11:58
  we
• 11:59
  want
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  follow
• 11:59
  a
• 11:59
  dream,
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  sometimes
• 12:02
  we
• 12:02
  can
• 12:02
  have
• 12:02
  a
• 12:02
  friend,
• 12:03
  a
• 12:03
  family
• 12:03
  member,
• 12:04
  or
• 12:04
  even
• 12:04
  a
• 12:04
  stranger
• 12:05
  say,
• 12:06
  you
• 12:06
  can't
• 12:07
  do
• 12:07
  that.
• 12:09
  But
• 12:09
  we
• 12:10
  have
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  have
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  belief
• 12:11
  within
• 12:12
  ourselves
• 12:12
  that,
• 12:13
  I
• 12:13
  can
• 12:13
  do
• 12:13
  this.
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  can
• 12:15
  follow
• 12:15
  my
• 12:15
  dream
• 12:16
  regardless
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  how
• 12:17
  I
• 12:18
  look,
• 12:18
  regardless
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  how
• 12:19
  it
• 12:19
  feels,
• 12:20
  regardless
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  sometimes
• 12:21
  how
• 12:21
  hard
• 12:21
  it
• 12:22
  is.
• 12:22
  Because
• 12:23
  with.
• 12:24
  It
• 12:25
  wasn't
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  easiest
• 12:26
  thing
• 12:26
  for
• 12:26
  her
• 12:27
  because
• 12:27
  she's
• 12:27
  an
• 12:28
  elephant
• 12:28
  to
• 12:29
  stand
• 12:29
  on
• 12:30
  her
• 12:30
  tiptoe
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  turn
• 12:32
  around
• 12:32
  and
• 12:32
  to
• 12:33
  do
• 12:33
  all
• 12:33
  that.
• 12:34
  But
• 12:34
  she
• 12:34
  met
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  new
• 12:35
  group
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  friends.
• 12:36
  Fantastic.
• 12:37
  And
• 12:38
  it's
• 12:38
  interesting
• 12:38
  you
• 12:38
  should
• 12:39
  say
• 12:39
  that,
• 12:39
  Sinette,
• 12:40
  because
• 12:40
  one
• 12:41
  of
• 12:41
  my
• 12:41
  first
• 12:41
  guests
• 12:42
  was
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  teacher
• 12:44
  out
• 12:44
  of
• 12:45
  New
• 12:45
  York,
• 12:45
  and
• 12:46
  she
• 12:46
  was
• 12:46
  telling
• 12:47
  me
• 12:48
  she
• 12:48
  was
• 12:48
  very
• 12:49
  excited.
• 12:49
  She
• 12:50
  had
• 12:50
  reached
• 12:50
  out
• 12:50
  to
• 12:51
  me.
• 12:51
  She
• 12:52
  did
• 12:52
  an
• 12:52
  awesome
• 12:53
  job.
• 12:53
  She
• 12:53
  had
• 12:53
  a
• 12:54
  beautiful
• 12:54
  children's
• 12:55
  book.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:56
  when
• 12:56
  I
• 12:57
  went
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  her
• 12:57
  social
• 12:58
  media,
• 12:58
  I
• 12:59
  noticed
• 12:59
  she
• 12:59
  didn't
• 13:00
  have
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  title
• 13:02
  of
• 13:02
  children's
• 13:02
  book
• 13:03
  author
• 13:03
  anywhere
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  be
• 13:04
  seen.
• 13:06
  And
• 13:06
  I
• 13:06
  said
• 13:07
  to
• 13:07
  her,
• 13:07
  I
• 13:08
  said,
• 13:08
  oh,
• 13:08
  why
• 13:09
  haven't
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  added
• 13:10
  children's
• 13:10
  book
• 13:10
  author
• 13:11
  to
• 13:11
  your
• 13:12
  Instagram
• 13:12
  and
• 13:13
  Facebook
• 13:13
  profiles?
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  she
• 13:15
  said,
• 13:16
  oh,
• 13:17
  it
• 13:17
  was
• 13:17
  like
• 13:17
  an
• 13:18
  aha
• 13:18
  moment.
• 13:19
  And
• 13:20
  then,
• 13:20
  you
• 13:20
  know
• 13:20
  what?
• 13:20
  15
• 13:21
  minutes
• 13:21
  after
• 13:22
  we
• 13:22
  finished
• 13:22
  the
• 13:23
  podcast
• 13:23
  interview,
• 13:24
  she
• 13:24
  sent
• 13:24
  me
• 13:24
  an
• 13:25
  email
• 13:25
  and
• 13:25
  said,
• 13:26
  check
• 13:26
  out
• 13:26
  my
• 13:26
  profiles
• 13:27
  now.
• 13:28
  So
• 13:28
  she
• 13:29
  had
• 13:29
  quickly
• 13:29
  gone
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  and
• 13:30
  added
• 13:30
  children's
• 13:31
  book
• 13:31
  author.
• 13:32
  And
• 13:32
  I
• 13:33
  think
• 13:33
  we
• 13:33
  all
• 13:33
  feel
• 13:34
  like
• 13:34
  that.
• 13:34
  I
• 13:35
  know
• 13:35
  when
• 13:35
  we
• 13:36
  first
• 13:36
  published
• 13:37
  our
• 13:37
  first
• 13:37
  children's
• 13:38
  book,
• 13:38
  we
• 13:38
  went
• 13:39
  through
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  same
• 13:39
  thing
• 13:40
  as
• 13:40
  you're
• 13:40
  now
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  published
• 13:41
  children's
• 13:42
  book
• 13:42
  author
• 13:43
  and.
• 13:44
  Right.
• 13:45
  But
• 13:46
  I
• 13:46
  know
• 13:46
  you're.
• 13:46
  I
• 13:46
  know
• 13:46
  the
• 13:47
  feeling
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  have
• 13:47
  is
• 13:48
  that
• 13:48
  little
• 13:49
  insecurity
• 13:50
  of.
• 13:50
  Okay,
• 13:50
  now
• 13:51
  what?
• 13:51
  Yes.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:53
  it
• 13:53
  is.
• 13:53
  It's
• 13:53
  a
• 13:54
  now
• 13:54
  what?
• 13:54
  My
• 13:55
  moment.
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  have
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  funny
• 13:56
  story
• 13:56
  I
• 13:57
  was
• 13:57
  telling
• 13:57
  my
• 13:58
  husband
• 13:58
  yesterday.
• 13:58
  My
• 13:59
  granddaughter
• 13:59
  called
• 14:00
  me
• 14:01
  and
• 14:01
  it
• 14:01
  was
• 14:02
  funny.
• 14:02
  They
• 14:03
  were
• 14:03
  having
• 14:03
  some
• 14:03
  type
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  conversation
• 14:04
  in
• 14:05
  the
• 14:05
  classroom.
• 14:06
  So
• 14:06
  she's
• 14:06
  an
• 14:06
  eighth
• 14:07
  grader.
• 14:07
  Okay.
• 14:08
  And
• 14:08
  she
• 14:09
  said
• 14:09
  her
• 14:09
  teacher
• 14:10
  was
• 14:10
  asking
• 14:10
  them
• 14:10
  if
• 14:11
  they
• 14:11
  knew
• 14:11
  anybody
• 14:12
  famous.
• 14:13
  And
• 14:13
  she
• 14:13
  said,
• 14:13
  my
• 14:13
  grandma.
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  said,
• 14:15
  you're.
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  she
• 14:17
  said,
• 14:17
  grandma,
• 14:17
  I'm
• 14:18
  talking
• 14:18
  about
• 14:18
  you.
• 14:19
  She
• 14:20
  said,
• 14:20
  my
• 14:20
  teacher
• 14:21
  wants
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  meet
• 14:21
  you.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  was
• 14:22
  like,
• 14:23
  really?
• 14:23
  And
• 14:23
  she
• 14:24
  said,
• 14:24
  some
• 14:24
  of
• 14:24
  my
• 14:25
  friends.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:26
  so
• 14:27
  that
• 14:27
  was
• 14:27
  an
• 14:27
  aha
• 14:28
  moment
• 14:29
  for
• 14:29
  me,
• 14:30
  because
• 14:30
  you're
• 14:31
  around
• 14:31
  your
• 14:32
  grandchildren
• 14:32
  or
• 14:33
  around
• 14:34
  children,
• 14:34
  you're
• 14:34
  like,
• 14:35
  oh,
• 14:35
  okay.
• 14:35
  I'm
• 14:36
  just
• 14:36
  a.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:37
  I
• 14:37
  still
• 14:37
  don't
• 14:37
  consider
• 14:38
  myself
• 14:38
  famous,
• 14:40
  but
• 14:41
  I
• 14:41
  guess
• 14:42
  to
• 14:42
  her,
• 14:44
  as
• 14:44
  a.
• 14:44
  Published
• 14:45
  children's
• 14:45
  book
• 14:45
  author,
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  her,
• 14:48
  yeah,
• 14:49
  that's
• 14:49
  very
• 14:50
  meaningful.
• 14:50
  So
• 14:51
  that's
• 14:52
  fantastic.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  noticed.
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  wanted
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  talk
• 14:55
  to
• 14:55
  you
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  little
• 14:55
  bit
• 14:55
  about.
• 14:57
  You
• 14:57
  launched
• 14:58
  your
• 14:58
  first
• 14:58
  book
• 14:58
  in
• 14:59
  2018.
• 15:01
  Yes.
• 15:02
  And
• 15:03
  so
• 15:03
  now
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  have
• 15:04
  three
• 15:05
  children's
• 15:05
  books.
• 15:06
  I'm
• 15:07
  curious,
• 15:09
  do
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  have
• 15:09
  a
• 15:09
  children's
• 15:10
  book
• 15:10
  plan?
• 15:10
  And
• 15:11
  if
• 15:11
  you
• 15:11
  do,
• 15:11
  how
• 15:12
  did
• 15:12
  that
• 15:13
  present
• 15:14
  itself
• 15:14
  over
• 15:14
  the
• 15:15
  years?
• 15:15
  What
• 15:15
  have
• 15:16
  you
• 15:16
  done
• 15:16
  differently
• 15:16
  from
• 15:17
  your
• 15:17
  first
• 15:17
  book
• 15:18
  to
• 15:18
  now
• 15:18
  your
• 15:19
  third
• 15:19
  book?
• 15:20
  Okay.
• 15:21
  So
• 15:22
  I'm
• 15:22
  going
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  see
• 15:22
  a
• 15:23
  lot
• 15:23
  of
• 15:23
  research.
• 15:24
  Me
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  Google
• 15:24
  are
• 15:25
  friends.
• 15:25
  And
• 15:25
  so
• 15:26
  what
• 15:27
  I
• 15:27
  found
• 15:27
  online,
• 15:27
  I
• 15:28
  found
• 15:28
  a.
• 15:29
  Because
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  didn't
• 15:30
  know
• 15:30
  which
• 15:31
  direction
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  wanted
• 15:32
  to
• 15:32
  go,
• 15:32
  I
• 15:33
  talked
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  several
• 15:33
  people,
• 15:34
  but
• 15:34
  they
• 15:34
  were
• 15:35
  not
• 15:35
  children's
• 15:36
  authors.
• 15:37
  How
• 15:37
  they
• 15:37
  do
• 15:38
  things
• 15:39
  was
• 15:39
  different
• 15:40
  from
• 15:40
  mine.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:41
  so
• 15:42
  what
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  came
• 15:42
  across
• 15:43
  was
• 15:44
  a
• 15:45
  author's
• 15:45
  business
• 15:46
  plan.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:49
  I
• 15:49
  tweaked
• 15:50
  it
• 15:50
  to
• 15:50
  my
• 15:50
  own,
• 15:51
  but
• 15:51
  it
• 15:52
  made
• 15:52
  me
• 15:52
  sit
• 15:53
  down
• 15:54
  and
• 15:54
  think
• 15:54
  about
• 15:55
  everything.
• 15:55
  How
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  was
• 15:56
  going
• 15:56
  to
• 15:57
  use
• 15:57
  social
• 15:57
  media,
• 15:58
  what
• 15:59
  avenues
• 15:59
  of
• 15:59
  social
• 16:00
  media
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  was
• 16:00
  going
• 16:00
  to
• 16:01
  use,
• 16:01
  how
• 16:02
  much
• 16:02
  time
• 16:02
  I'm
• 16:02
  going
• 16:03
  to
• 16:03
  use,
• 16:04
  writing
• 16:05
  per
• 16:05
  week,
• 16:05
  per
• 16:06
  month,
• 16:06
  per
• 16:07
  day,
• 16:07
  things
• 16:08
  like
• 16:08
  that.
• 16:08
  Who's
• 16:09
  going
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  be
• 16:09
  my
• 16:09
  primary
• 16:10
  audience?
• 16:11
  What's
• 16:11
  my
• 16:11
  mission
• 16:12
  statement,
• 16:13
  what's
• 16:13
  my
• 16:13
  vision
• 16:14
  statement?
• 16:16
  And
• 16:16
  what's
• 16:17
  my
• 16:17
  budget?
• 16:18
  How
• 16:18
  much
• 16:18
  is
• 16:18
  it
• 16:18
  going
• 16:18
  to
• 16:19
  cost
• 16:19
  me
• 16:19
  for
• 16:20
  each
• 16:20
  book?
• 16:21
  Because
• 16:21
  each
• 16:21
  book
• 16:22
  costs
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  different
• 16:23
  price.
• 16:24
  Yes.
• 16:24
  It
• 16:25
  was
• 16:25
  just.
• 16:25
  It's
• 16:25
  just
• 16:26
  a
• 16:26
  plethora
• 16:26
  of
• 16:26
  things.
• 16:27
  Since
• 16:27
  that
• 16:28
  time,
• 16:29
  every
• 16:29
  year
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  go
• 16:30
  through
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  same
• 16:31
  platform
• 16:33
  and
• 16:33
  I
• 16:33
  have
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  re
• 16:34
  answer
• 16:34
  those
• 16:34
  questions.
• 16:35
  Maybe
• 16:36
  the
• 16:36
  mission
• 16:36
  doesn't
• 16:37
  change,
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  vision
• 16:38
  doesn't
• 16:38
  change.
• 16:39
  But
• 16:40
  what
• 16:40
  I'm
• 16:40
  going
• 16:40
  to
• 16:41
  do
• 16:41
  for
• 16:42
  what
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  did
• 16:42
  in
• 16:43
  2025
• 16:44
  is
• 16:44
  not
• 16:45
  what
• 16:45
  I'm
• 16:45
  going
• 16:45
  to
• 16:45
  do
• 16:45
  in
• 16:46
  2026.
• 16:47
  I'm
• 16:48
  preparing
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  launch
• 16:48
  another
• 16:49
  book
• 16:49
  in
• 16:50
  2026.
• 16:50
  Which
• 16:51
  I
• 16:51
  am.
• 16:52
  I
• 16:52
  had
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  put
• 16:53
  everything
• 16:54
  in
• 16:54
  place
• 16:54
  of,
• 16:55
  this
• 16:55
  is
• 16:56
  what
• 16:56
  I'm
• 16:56
  gonna
• 16:56
  do,
• 16:57
  this
• 16:57
  is
• 16:57
  my
• 16:57
  plan.
• 16:58
  And
• 16:59
  twice
• 16:59
  a
• 16:59
  month
• 16:59
  I
• 17:00
  go
• 17:00
  in
• 17:00
  and
• 17:00
  I
• 17:01
  look
• 17:01
  at
• 17:01
  my
• 17:01
  plan.
• 17:02
  Now
• 17:02
  it's
• 17:02
  almost
• 17:03
  December
• 17:03
  now.
• 17:04
  So
• 17:05
  now
• 17:05
  I'm
• 17:05
  looking
• 17:06
  every
• 17:07
  week,
• 17:07
  okay,
• 17:08
  how
• 17:08
  can
• 17:08
  I
• 17:09
  talk
• 17:09
  tweak
• 17:09
  this,
• 17:10
  how
• 17:10
  can
• 17:10
  I
• 17:11
  adjust
• 17:12
  this?
• 17:12
  And
• 17:13
  then
• 17:13
  I
• 17:13
  look
• 17:14
  at
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  trends
• 17:14
  that
• 17:15
  are
• 17:15
  going
• 17:15
  on
• 17:15
  currently,
• 17:16
  because
• 17:16
  what
• 17:17
  was
• 17:17
  going
• 17:17
  on
• 17:17
  in
• 17:18
  2018
• 17:19
  is
• 17:19
  not
• 17:20
  occurring
• 17:21
  in
• 17:22
  2025.
• 17:23
  So
• 17:24
  now
• 17:24
  we're
• 17:24
  more
• 17:25
  AI
• 17:26
  than
• 17:27
  we
• 17:27
  were
• 17:27
  in
• 17:28
  2018.
• 17:29
  So
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  have
• 17:29
  to
• 17:30
  follow
• 17:30
  those
• 17:30
  trends
• 17:31
  as
• 17:31
  well,
• 17:32
  see
• 17:32
  what's
• 17:32
  going
• 17:33
  on
• 17:33
  and
• 17:33
  see
• 17:33
  how
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  can
• 17:34
  use
• 17:34
  it
• 17:35
  to
• 17:35
  my
• 17:35
  advantage.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:37
  so
• 17:37
  those
• 17:37
  are
• 17:37
  some
• 17:38
  things
• 17:38
  that
• 17:38
  I
• 17:39
  have
• 17:39
  learned.
• 17:40
  It
• 17:40
  takes
• 17:41
  time.
• 17:41
  It's
• 17:42
  important
• 17:42
  lesson
• 17:43
  for
• 17:43
  everybody
• 17:43
  to
• 17:43
  understand
• 17:44
  that
• 17:45
  you're
• 17:45
  talking
• 17:46
  a
• 17:46
  seven
• 17:47
  year
• 17:47
  journey
• 17:48
  because
• 17:48
  it's
• 17:48
  2018
• 17:49
  to
• 17:50
  2025.
• 17:52
  And
• 17:52
  that's
• 17:52
  pretty
• 17:53
  impressive
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  you
• 17:54
  review
• 17:54
  your
• 17:54
  goals
• 17:55
  every
• 17:55
  year
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  decide
• 17:57
  how
• 17:57
  you're
• 17:58
  going
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  change
• 17:59
  your
• 17:59
  strategy.
• 18:00
  Plus,
• 18:01
  what's
• 18:01
  changing
• 18:02
  in
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  marketplace?
• 18:04
  A
• 18:04
  lot
• 18:04
  of
• 18:04
  people,
• 18:04
  I've
• 18:05
  heard
• 18:05
  a
• 18:05
  lot
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  discussions
• 18:06
  about
• 18:06
  people
• 18:07
  using
• 18:07
  AI
• 18:08
  to
• 18:08
  write
• 18:08
  their
• 18:09
  books
• 18:09
  and
• 18:10
  do
• 18:10
  illustrations
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  things
• 18:12
  like
• 18:12
  that.
• 18:13
  And
• 18:14
  so
• 18:15
  although
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  may
• 18:17
  not
• 18:17
  use
• 18:17
  that,
• 18:18
  it
• 18:18
  still
• 18:18
  has
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  be
• 18:19
  on
• 18:19
  my
• 18:19
  radar
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  be
• 18:20
  like,
• 18:21
  okay,
• 18:22
  this
• 18:22
  is
• 18:22
  something
• 18:23
  that
• 18:23
  is
• 18:23
  being
• 18:23
  used.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  how
• 18:24
  can
• 18:24
  I
• 18:25
  compete
• 18:26
  in
• 18:26
  that
• 18:26
  particular
• 18:27
  market?
• 18:28
  Because
• 18:28
  a
• 18:29
  couple
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  months
• 18:29
  ago
• 18:29
  I
• 18:30
  was
• 18:30
  helping
• 18:30
  my
• 18:30
  daughter
• 18:31
  and
• 18:31
  she
• 18:31
  was
• 18:32
  writing
• 18:32
  her
• 18:32
  second
• 18:33
  book
• 18:34
  and
• 18:34
  I
• 18:35
  hadn't
• 18:35
  did
• 18:36
  anything
• 18:36
  on
• 18:36
  Amazon
• 18:37
  in
• 18:37
  a
• 18:37
  while
• 18:38
  and
• 18:39
  the
• 18:39
  question
• 18:40
  came
• 18:40
  up,
• 18:41
  are
• 18:41
  you
• 18:42
  using
• 18:42
  AI
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  write
• 18:43
  any
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  your
• 18:44
  book?
• 18:44
  Yes.
• 18:45
  And
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  had
• 18:46
  to
• 18:46
  look
• 18:46
  at
• 18:46
  that
• 18:46
  question
• 18:47
  for
• 18:47
  her
• 18:47
  and
• 18:47
  she
• 18:48
  said,
• 18:48
  mom,
• 18:48
  what
• 18:48
  does
• 18:49
  that
• 18:49
  mean?
• 18:50
  And
• 18:50
  so
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  had
• 18:51
  to
• 18:51
  be
• 18:51
  like,
• 18:51
  okay,
• 18:52
  let's
• 18:52
  research
• 18:52
  it
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  see
• 18:53
  what
• 18:53
  it
• 18:54
  means.
• 18:54
  And
• 18:55
  so
• 18:55
  it
• 18:55
  meant,
• 18:56
  did
• 18:56
  you
• 18:56
  use
• 18:56
  any
• 18:57
  AI?
• 18:57
  Did
• 18:58
  you
• 18:58
  use
• 18:58
  chat
• 18:59
  GPT?
• 19:01
  And
• 19:01
  she
• 19:01
  had
• 19:01
  to
• 19:02
  be
• 19:02
  like,
• 19:02
  yeah,
• 19:03
  not
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  whole
• 19:04
  thing,
• 19:04
  some
• 19:04
  parts.
• 19:05
  And
• 19:05
  so
• 19:06
  as
• 19:07
  an
• 19:07
  author,
• 19:08
  you
• 19:09
  have
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  just
• 19:09
  not
• 19:10
  consider
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  writing
• 19:11
  part,
• 19:12
  but
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  business
• 19:13
  part
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  it
• 19:13
  too.
• 19:14
  Absolutely,
• 19:15
  absolutely.
• 19:16
  And
• 19:16
  I
• 19:16
  noticed
• 19:17
  in
• 19:17
  your
• 19:17
  books
• 19:18
  you've
• 19:18
  done
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  paperback
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  an
• 19:20
  ebook,
• 19:22
  so
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  noticed
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  haven't
• 19:23
  done
• 19:23
  a
• 19:23
  hardcover.
• 19:24
  Tell
• 19:24
  us
• 19:25
  about
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  formats
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  also
• 19:27
  why
• 19:27
  you
• 19:27
  haven't
• 19:28
  used
• 19:28
  a
• 19:28
  hardcover
• 19:29
  format
• 19:29
  yet.
• 19:30
  There
• 19:31
  was
• 19:31
  no
• 19:31
  particular
• 19:32
  reason.
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  guess
• 19:32
  because
• 19:33
  of
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  hybrid
• 19:34
  publisher
• 19:35
  that
• 19:35
  I
• 19:35
  use,
• 19:35
  I
• 19:36
  just
• 19:36
  chose
• 19:37
  paperback
• 19:37
  instead
• 19:38
  of
• 19:38
  hardback.
• 19:39
  So
• 19:39
  there
• 19:39
  was
• 19:39
  no
• 19:40
  particular
• 19:40
  reason.
• 19:41
  And
• 19:41
  then
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  ebook
• 19:43
  is
• 19:43
  just
• 19:43
  a
• 19:43
  part
• 19:44
  of
• 19:44
  that.
• 19:44
  So
• 19:45
  probably
• 19:45
  in
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  future
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  would
• 19:47
  probably
• 19:47
  use
• 19:47
  a
• 19:48
  hardback
• 19:48
  because
• 19:49
  it
• 19:49
  has
• 19:49
  more
• 19:49
  retention.
• 19:51
  You
• 19:51
  just
• 19:51
  mentioned
• 19:52
  publishing.
• 19:52
  Each
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  us
• 19:53
  has
• 19:53
  a
• 19:54
  definitely
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  unique
• 19:55
  approach
• 19:56
  Whether
• 19:56
  you're
• 19:56
  self
• 19:57
  published
• 19:57
  or
• 19:57
  you're
• 19:58
  hybrid
• 19:59
  published
• 19:59
  or
• 19:59
  you're
• 20:00
  traditionally
• 20:00
  published
• 20:01
  or
• 20:01
  like
• 20:02
  in
• 20:02
  our
• 20:02
  case,
• 20:02
  we're
• 20:03
  independently
• 20:03
  published.
• 20:04
  We
• 20:04
  did
• 20:04
  all
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  work,
• 20:05
  we
• 20:05
  published
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  book
• 20:06
  ourselves.
• 20:07
  So
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  know
• 20:07
  you
• 20:07
  use
• 20:08
  convenience.
• 20:09
  And
• 20:09
  so
• 20:10
  are
• 20:10
  they
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  self
• 20:11
  publishing
• 20:12
  publisher?
• 20:13
  They're
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  hybrid.
• 20:15
  They
• 20:15
  are
• 20:15
  hybrid.
• 20:16
  Okay,
• 20:17
  so
• 20:17
  tell
• 20:17
  us
• 20:17
  that
• 20:18
  experience
• 20:18
  because
• 20:19
  you've
• 20:19
  used
• 20:19
  them
• 20:20
  for
• 20:20
  your,
• 20:20
  for
• 20:20
  all
• 20:21
  your
• 20:21
  books.
• 20:22
  No,
• 20:23
  I
• 20:24
  previously
• 20:24
  I
• 20:24
  used
• 20:25
  another
• 20:25
  publisher.
• 20:26
  In
• 20:26
  2018,
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  used
• 20:27
  tape
• 20:27
  publishing,
• 20:28
  but
• 20:28
  they're
• 20:29
  not,
• 20:29
  they're
• 20:29
  no
• 20:29
  longer
• 20:30
  currently
• 20:30
  in
• 20:30
  business.
• 20:31
  That's
• 20:31
  an
• 20:32
  interesting
• 20:32
  story
• 20:32
  because
• 20:33
  they
• 20:34
  were
• 20:34
  going
• 20:34
  out
• 20:35
  of
• 20:35
  business.
• 20:36
  When
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  was
• 20:36
  preparing
• 20:37
  to
• 20:38
  launch
• 20:38
  my
• 20:39
  second
• 20:39
  book,
• 20:40
  I
• 20:41
  was
• 20:41
  gonna
• 20:41
  put
• 20:41
  my
• 20:42
  second
• 20:42
  book
• 20:42
  with
• 20:42
  them.
• 20:43
  Okay.
• 20:44
  And
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  was
• 20:45
  prepared.
• 20:45
  And
• 20:45
  so
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  had
• 20:46
  to
• 20:46
  go
• 20:47
  through
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  process
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  finding
• 20:50
  another
• 20:50
  publisher.
• 20:52
  And
• 20:52
  so
• 20:54
  that
• 20:54
  taken
• 20:56
  some
• 20:56
  months,
• 20:57
  a
• 20:57
  few
• 20:57
  months,
• 20:58
  writing
• 20:59
  letters
• 20:59
  and
• 21:00
  emails
• 21:00
  and
• 21:01
  things
• 21:01
  like
• 21:01
  that.
• 21:02
  And
• 21:02
  I
• 21:03
  came
• 21:03
  across
• 21:03
  Covenant
• 21:04
  and
• 21:04
  Covenant
• 21:05
  speaking
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  their
• 21:06
  representative
• 21:07
  and
• 21:08
  it
• 21:08
  was
• 21:08
  somebody
• 21:09
  that
• 21:09
  I
• 21:09
  knew
• 21:09
  previously
• 21:11
  in
• 21:11
  business
• 21:11
  and
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  felt
• 21:12
  comfortable
• 21:13
  going
• 21:13
  with
• 21:13
  them,
• 21:14
  but
• 21:14
  the
• 21:15
  person
• 21:15
  is
• 21:15
  no
• 21:15
  longer
• 21:16
  with
• 21:16
  the
• 21:16
  company.
• 21:18
  I
• 21:18
  still
• 21:19
  feel
• 21:19
  comfortable
• 21:20
  going
• 21:21
  with
• 21:21
  them
• 21:21
  and
• 21:21
  being
• 21:22
  with
• 21:22
  them.
• 21:23
  You
• 21:23
  said
• 21:23
  you're
• 21:24
  working
• 21:24
  on
• 21:24
  another
• 21:24
  book
• 21:25
  that
• 21:25
  you'd
• 21:25
  like
• 21:25
  to
• 21:26
  publish
• 21:26
  in
• 21:26
  2026,
• 21:27
  so
• 21:28
  covent
• 21:29
  you
• 21:29
  would
• 21:29
  use
• 21:30
  again
• 21:30
  in
• 21:30
  the
• 21:31
  future?
• 21:32
  Yes,
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  would.
• 21:33
  Terrific.
• 21:34
  Terrific.
• 21:35
  And
• 21:35
  what
• 21:35
  would
• 21:35
  be
• 21:35
  your
• 21:36
  primary
• 21:36
  reason
• 21:37
  for
• 21:37
  using
• 21:37
  them?
• 21:39
  Because
• 21:39
  so
• 21:40
  far
• 21:40
  it's
• 21:40
  been
• 21:41
  good.
• 21:41
  It's.
• 21:41
  It
• 21:41
  hasn't
• 21:42
  been
• 21:42
  a
• 21:42
  negative
• 21:43
  experience.
• 21:44
  I
• 21:44
  am
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  type
• 21:45
  of
• 21:45
  person,
• 21:46
  I
• 21:47
  do
• 21:47
  not
• 21:47
  like
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  waste
• 21:48
  my
• 21:48
  money.
• 21:49
  If
• 21:49
  there
• 21:49
  is
• 21:50
  something
• 21:50
  that
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  feel
• 21:51
  is
• 21:51
  suspicious
• 21:52
  or
• 21:53
  something,
• 21:54
  I'm
• 21:54
  not
• 21:54
  going
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  do
• 21:55
  anything
• 21:55
  else
• 21:55
  with
• 21:55
  you.
• 21:56
  I'm
• 21:56
  just
• 21:57
  going
• 21:57
  to
• 21:57
  go
• 21:57
  someplace
• 21:58
  else.
• 21:58
  It
• 21:58
  may
• 21:58
  take
• 21:59
  me
• 21:59
  a
• 21:59
  longer
• 21:59
  time,
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  longer
• 22:01
  process
• 22:01
  to
• 22:02
  publish
• 22:02
  the
• 22:03
  book,
• 22:04
  but
• 22:04
  as
• 22:05
  long
• 22:05
  as
• 22:05
  we're
• 22:06
  okay,
• 22:08
  keep
• 22:08
  coming
• 22:08
  to
• 22:09
  me.
• 22:09
  Okay.
• 22:09
  And
• 22:10
  will
• 22:10
  they
• 22:10
  be
• 22:10
  able
• 22:10
  to
• 22:11
  do
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  hard
• 22:12
  cover
• 22:12
  format
• 22:13
  for
• 22:13
  you?
• 22:14
  Yes,
• 22:14
  they
• 22:15
  will
• 22:15
  be.
• 22:15
  I'd
• 22:15
  love
• 22:15
  to
• 22:16
  know
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  little
• 22:16
  bit
• 22:16
  about
• 22:17
  your
• 22:17
  whole
• 22:18
  illustration
• 22:19
  process
• 22:19
  because
• 22:19
  I
• 22:20
  noticed
• 22:21
  you
• 22:21
  don't
• 22:21
  mention
• 22:22
  an
• 22:22
  illustrator's
• 22:23
  name.
• 22:23
  So
• 22:23
  tell
• 22:24
  us
• 22:25
  about
• 22:25
  that
• 22:25
  whole
• 22:26
  process
• 22:27
  for
• 22:27
  you
• 22:27
  with
• 22:28
  all
• 22:28
  of
• 22:28
  your
• 22:28
  books.
• 22:29
  How
• 22:29
  did
• 22:29
  that
• 22:29
  work?
• 22:30
  Okay,
• 22:31
  so
• 22:31
  with
• 22:31
  Tape
• 22:32
  and
• 22:32
  with
• 22:32
  Covenant,
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  use
• 22:33
  their
• 22:34
  illustrators.
• 22:35
  Okay.
• 22:35
  So
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  house.
• 22:37
  So
• 22:37
  in
• 22:37
  house.
• 22:38
  But
• 22:38
  they,
• 22:39
  both
• 22:39
  of
• 22:39
  them,
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  can't
• 22:41
  remember,
• 22:42
  take
• 22:42
  spend
• 22:42
  a
• 22:43
  while.
• 22:44
  But
• 22:44
  with
• 22:44
  Covenant,
• 22:45
  they
• 22:45
  send
• 22:46
  you
• 22:46
  a
• 22:47
  detailed
• 22:49
  list
• 22:49
  of
• 22:50
  what
• 22:50
  you
• 22:51
  want
• 22:51
  your
• 22:51
  illustrations
• 22:52
  to
• 22:52
  look
• 22:52
  like.
• 22:53
  And
• 22:53
  so
• 22:54
  they
• 22:54
  send
• 22:54
  you
• 22:55
  some
• 22:55
  pictures
• 22:56
  whether
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  want
• 22:56
  line
• 22:57
  drawing,
• 22:57
  cartoon
• 22:58
  and
• 22:59
  things
• 22:59
  like
• 22:59
  that.
• 23:00
  And
• 23:01
  so
• 23:01
  you
• 23:01
  go
• 23:01
  through
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  questionnaires.
• 23:03
  It's
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  quite
• 23:04
  extensive
• 23:05
  questionnaire.
• 23:07
  Me
• 23:07
  personally,
• 23:08
  I'm
• 23:08
  researching,
• 23:09
  I
• 23:09
  like
• 23:09
  to
• 23:10
  Research.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:11
  so
• 23:11
  I'm
• 23:11
  researching
• 23:12
  online,
• 23:12
  what
• 23:12
  about
• 23:13
  this
• 23:13
  color?
• 23:13
  What
• 23:14
  about
• 23:14
  these
• 23:14
  eyes?
• 23:15
  They
• 23:15
  ask
• 23:15
  you
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  questions.
• 23:16
  Are
• 23:16
  they.
• 23:16
  If
• 23:17
  they're
• 23:17
  animal,
• 23:17
  are
• 23:18
  they
• 23:18
  walking
• 23:18
  on
• 23:18
  two
• 23:18
  legs,
• 23:19
  are
• 23:19
  they
• 23:19
  walking
• 23:20
  on
• 23:20
  four
• 23:20
  legs?
• 23:21
  Whether
• 23:21
  you
• 23:22
  want
• 23:22
  their
• 23:22
  eye
• 23:23
  colors
• 23:23
  to
• 23:23
  be
• 23:24
  just
• 23:24
  different
• 23:24
  things.
• 23:25
  And
• 23:25
  so
• 23:26
  I
• 23:26
  have
• 23:26
  to
• 23:26
  take
• 23:27
  time
• 23:27
  and
• 23:28
  we
• 23:28
  go
• 23:28
  back
• 23:29
  and
• 23:29
  forth
• 23:29
  about
• 23:30
  things.
• 23:30
  You
• 23:31
  like
• 23:31
  this
• 23:31
  picture,
• 23:32
  don't
• 23:32
  you
• 23:32
  like
• 23:32
  that
• 23:32
  picture?
• 23:33
  You
• 23:34
  like
• 23:34
  this
• 23:34
  illustration.
• 23:35
  And
• 23:35
  so
• 23:36
  it
• 23:36
  gives
• 23:36
  me
• 23:37
  time
• 23:37
  and
• 23:37
  space,
• 23:38
  even
• 23:38
  though
• 23:38
  I've
• 23:38
  written
• 23:39
  words
• 23:40
  and
• 23:40
  I
• 23:40
  may
• 23:41
  have
• 23:41
  an
• 23:41
  idea
• 23:42
  of
• 23:42
  what
• 23:42
  I
• 23:43
  want
• 23:43
  an
• 23:43
  illustration
• 23:43
  to
• 23:44
  look
• 23:44
  like,
• 23:45
  but
• 23:45
  when
• 23:46
  it
• 23:46
  comes
• 23:46
  to
• 23:47
  where
• 23:47
  I
• 23:47
  really
• 23:48
  see
• 23:48
  it,
• 23:48
  it's
• 23:48
  not
• 23:48
  what.
• 23:49
  Sometimes
• 23:49
  it's
• 23:49
  just
• 23:50
  not
• 23:50
  what
• 23:50
  you
• 23:50
  want.
• 23:50
  Does
• 23:51
  the
• 23:51
  illustrator
• 23:52
  that
• 23:53
  you
• 23:53
  choose
• 23:54
  stay
• 23:54
  with
• 23:54
  you
• 23:54
  for
• 23:55
  each
• 23:55
  project?
• 23:56
  For
• 23:56
  each
• 23:56
  book?
• 23:57
  Yes,
• 23:58
  same
• 23:58
  with
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  company.
• 23:59
  They
• 24:00
  stay
• 24:00
  with
• 24:00
  you
• 24:01
  to
• 24:01
  each
• 24:01
  book.
• 24:02
  Because
• 24:02
  when
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  go
• 24:03
  to
• 24:04
  publish
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  next
• 24:04
  book,
• 24:05
  it's
• 24:05
  going
• 24:05
  to
• 24:05
  be
• 24:05
  in
• 24:05
  the
• 24:06
  series
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  Ella.
• 24:07
  And
• 24:07
  so
• 24:07
  one
• 24:08
  of
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  questions
• 24:08
  that's
• 24:09
  always
• 24:09
  asked,
• 24:09
  is
• 24:09
  this
• 24:10
  a
• 24:10
  part
• 24:10
  of
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  series?
• 24:11
  And
• 24:12
  so
• 24:12
  if
• 24:12
  it
• 24:12
  is,
• 24:13
  then
• 24:13
  you're
• 24:13
  going
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  have
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  same
• 24:14
  person.
• 24:15
  Okay.
• 24:16
  And
• 24:16
  you
• 24:16
  know
• 24:16
  what?
• 24:17
  That's
• 24:17
  very
• 24:17
  important.
• 24:18
  For
• 24:18
  sure
• 24:18
  it
• 24:19
  is.
• 24:19
  And
• 24:20
  because
• 24:20
  I've
• 24:20
  talked
• 24:21
  to
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  couple
• 24:22
  of
• 24:22
  children's
• 24:23
  book
• 24:23
  authors
• 24:24
  who
• 24:24
  started
• 24:24
  with
• 24:25
  the
• 24:25
  illustrator
• 24:26
  knowing
• 24:26
  they
• 24:27
  were
• 24:27
  going
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  do
• 24:27
  the
• 24:28
  same
• 24:28
  series
• 24:29
  and.
• 24:30
  Or
• 24:30
  a
• 24:30
  book
• 24:30
  series,
• 24:31
  and
• 24:31
  then
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  illustrator
• 24:33
  got
• 24:33
  ill
• 24:34
  or
• 24:34
  whatever.
• 24:35
  So
• 24:35
  it
• 24:35
  makes
• 24:36
  it
• 24:36
  a
• 24:36
  little
• 24:36
  more
• 24:36
  difficult
• 24:37
  when
• 24:37
  someone,
• 24:38
  another
• 24:38
  illustrator,
• 24:39
  has
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  pick
• 24:39
  up
• 24:40
  and
• 24:40
  almost
• 24:41
  copy
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  style
• 24:42
  and
• 24:43
  every
• 24:43
  illustrator.
• 24:44
  So
• 24:44
  different.
• 24:45
  Yeah,
• 24:46
  and
• 24:46
  they
• 24:46
  are
• 24:47
  different.
• 24:47
  I'm
• 24:48
  going
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  say
• 24:48
  in
• 24:48
  2018,
• 24:49
  when
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  did
• 24:50
  the
• 24:51
  Love
• 24:51
  Story,
• 24:51
  I
• 24:52
  hired
• 24:52
  a
• 24:52
  couple
• 24:52
  of
• 24:53
  illustrators
• 24:53
  and
• 24:55
  I
• 24:55
  always
• 24:56
  look
• 24:56
  at
• 24:56
  my
• 24:57
  book
• 24:57
  and
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  would
• 24:57
  look
• 24:57
  at
• 24:58
  the
• 24:58
  illustrations
• 24:58
  and
• 24:59
  I
• 24:59
  said,
• 24:59
  are
• 25:00
  we
• 25:00
  reading
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  same
• 25:01
  story?
• 25:04
  Are
• 25:04
  we
• 25:05
  reading
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  same
• 25:06
  story?
• 25:06
  That
• 25:07
  is
• 25:07
  very
• 25:08
  interesting.
• 25:10
  With
• 25:10
  Covenant,
• 25:11
  you're
• 25:11
  able
• 25:11
  to
• 25:12
  go
• 25:12
  back
• 25:12
  and
• 25:13
  challenge
• 25:13
  the
• 25:14
  way
• 25:14
  the
• 25:14
  illustrations
• 25:15
  are
• 25:15
  coming
• 25:15
  out.
• 25:16
  Yes,
• 25:17
  I'm
• 25:17
  able
• 25:17
  to
• 25:18
  go
• 25:18
  back
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  say,
• 25:19
  I
• 25:19
  don't
• 25:19
  like
• 25:19
  this.
• 25:20
  So
• 25:20
  it's
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  lot
• 25:21
  of
• 25:21
  emailing
• 25:22
  back
• 25:22
  and
• 25:22
  forth.
• 25:22
  And
• 25:23
  so
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  do
• 25:23
  have
• 25:24
  a
• 25:26
  contact
• 25:26
  person
• 25:27
  that
• 25:27
  I've
• 25:28
  had
• 25:28
  through
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  years,
• 25:29
  and
• 25:29
  so
• 25:29
  I
• 25:30
  go
• 25:30
  through
• 25:30
  her
• 25:31
  and
• 25:31
  I'll
• 25:32
  say,
• 25:32
  okay,
• 25:32
  I
• 25:32
  don't
• 25:33
  like
• 25:33
  this.
• 25:33
  And
• 25:33
  so
• 25:34
  it
• 25:34
  has
• 25:35
  been
• 25:35
  on
• 25:35
  occasions
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  forgot
• 25:37
  what
• 25:37
  their
• 25:37
  official
• 25:38
  title
• 25:38
  is,
• 25:39
  but
• 25:39
  she
• 25:40
  has
• 25:40
  said
• 25:40
  to
• 25:40
  me,
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  don't
• 25:42
  like
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  either.
• 25:43
  And
• 25:43
  I'll
• 25:43
  say,
• 25:44
  okay,
• 25:46
  that's
• 25:46
  good.
• 25:47
  So
• 25:47
  that's
• 25:48
  good.
• 25:48
  So
• 25:48
  that's
• 25:48
  why
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  stayed
• 25:49
  with
• 25:49
  them.
• 25:49
  That's
• 25:49
  okay.
• 25:50
  I
• 25:50
  got
• 25:50
  your
• 25:51
  website
• 25:51
  in
• 25:51
  front
• 25:52
  of
• 25:52
  me.
• 25:52
  And
• 25:52
  so
• 25:53
  tell
• 25:53
  us
• 25:53
  a
• 25:53
  little
• 25:54
  bit
• 25:54
  about
• 25:54
  your
• 25:54
  website.
• 25:55
  Because
• 25:56
  did
• 25:56
  you
• 25:56
  have
• 25:56
  your
• 25:57
  website
• 25:58
  in
• 25:58
  2018
• 25:59
  when
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  launched
• 26:00
  your
• 26:00
  first
• 26:00
  book?
• 26:01
  No.
• 26:03
  How
• 26:03
  long
• 26:04
  until
• 26:04
  you
• 26:04
  actually
• 26:05
  developed
• 26:06
  your
• 26:06
  website
• 26:07
  after
• 26:07
  your
• 26:07
  first
• 26:08
  book?
• 26:09
  I'm
• 26:09
  gonna
• 26:10
  say
• 26:11
  maybe
• 26:12
  three
• 26:12
  to
• 26:12
  four
• 26:13
  years.
• 26:13
  Okay.
• 26:15
  And
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  used
• 26:16
  my
• 26:16
  local
• 26:16
  library
• 26:18
  to
• 26:19
  learn
• 26:19
  how
• 26:20
  to
• 26:21
  develop
• 26:21
  a
• 26:22
  website.
• 26:22
  They
• 26:23
  were
• 26:23
  teaching
• 26:23
  a
• 26:24
  class.
• 26:24
  Your
• 26:25
  local
• 26:25
  library,
• 26:26
  although
• 26:26
  we
• 26:27
  just
• 26:27
  consider
• 26:27
  it
• 26:27
  just
• 26:28
  books.
• 26:30
  Some
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  them
• 26:30
  offer
• 26:31
  classes
• 26:32
  and
• 26:32
  so.
• 26:32
  Right.
• 26:32
  A
• 26:33
  lot
• 26:33
  of
• 26:33
  resources.
• 26:34
  A
• 26:34
  lot
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  resources.
• 26:35
  And
• 26:36
  some
• 26:36
  of
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  classes
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  pay.
• 26:37
  Some
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  them
• 26:38
  are
• 26:38
  not.
• 26:39
  And
• 26:39
  if
• 26:40
  they're
• 26:40
  paid,
• 26:40
  they're
• 26:41
  not
• 26:41
  usually
• 26:41
  a
• 26:42
  lot
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  money.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:43
  I
• 26:44
  went
• 26:44
  to
• 26:44
  my
• 26:45
  local
• 26:45
  library,
• 26:46
  it
• 26:46
  was
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  few
• 26:48
  months.
• 26:49
  And
• 26:49
  they
• 26:50
  showed
• 26:50
  you
• 26:50
  how
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  build
• 26:50
  a
• 26:51
  website
• 26:52
  from
• 26:52
  there.
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  was
• 26:54
  looking
• 26:54
  at
• 26:54
  your
• 26:54
  website.
• 26:55
  Of
• 26:55
  course,
• 26:55
  now
• 26:55
  you've
• 26:56
  got
• 26:56
  all
• 26:56
  your
• 26:56
  books
• 26:57
  on
• 26:57
  your
• 26:57
  website,
• 26:58
  which
• 26:58
  is.
• 26:58
  Which
• 26:59
  is
• 26:59
  great.
• 27:00
  And
• 27:00
  how
• 27:01
  you're
• 27:01
  promoting
• 27:02
  them.
• 27:02
  And
• 27:03
  then
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  noticed
• 27:05
  on
• 27:05
  your
• 27:06
  website
• 27:07
  over
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  years,
• 27:07
  you've
• 27:08
  done
• 27:08
  a
• 27:09
  lot
• 27:09
  of.
• 27:10
  I
• 27:10
  talked
• 27:10
  to
• 27:10
  everybody
• 27:11
  about
• 27:11
  this.
• 27:11
  In
• 27:12
  episode
• 27:12
  48,
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  talked
• 27:13
  to
• 27:14
  a
• 27:14
  PR
• 27:15
  and
• 27:15
  marketing
• 27:16
  person.
• 27:16
  Her
• 27:16
  name
• 27:16
  is
• 27:16
  Lori
• 27:17
  Orlinski,
• 27:18
  and
• 27:18
  she's
• 27:18
  also
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  children's
• 27:19
  book
• 27:19
  author.
• 27:20
  And
• 27:20
  she
• 27:21
  always
• 27:21
  talks
• 27:21
  about
• 27:22
  earned
• 27:23
  media
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  getting
• 27:25
  out
• 27:25
  there
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  hustling.
• 27:26
  And
• 27:26
  I
• 27:26
  noticed
• 27:27
  you
• 27:27
  are
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  real
• 27:27
  hustler.
• 27:28
  It's
• 27:29
  unbelievable
• 27:30
  how
• 27:30
  much
• 27:31
  earned
• 27:31
  media
• 27:33
  with
• 27:33
  tv,
• 27:34
  radio,
• 27:35
  podcasts,
• 27:36
  print.
• 27:37
  So
• 27:37
  tell
• 27:37
  us,
• 27:38
  you've
• 27:38
  done
• 27:38
  a
• 27:38
  lot.
• 27:39
  And
• 27:39
  of
• 27:39
  course,
• 27:39
  it's
• 27:40
  all
• 27:40
  on
• 27:40
  your
• 27:40
  website,
• 27:41
  which
• 27:41
  is
• 27:41
  beautiful.
• 27:42
  Tell
• 27:43
  us
• 27:43
  about.
• 27:44
  How
• 27:44
  did
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  come
• 27:44
  up
• 27:45
  with
• 27:45
  this
• 27:46
  development
• 27:46
  of
• 27:47
  earned
• 27:47
  media?
• 27:48
  Come
• 27:48
  over
• 27:48
  time
• 27:49
  or.
• 27:49
  You
• 27:49
  seem
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  be
• 27:50
  such
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  natural
• 27:51
  at
• 27:51
  it.
• 27:51
  Talk
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  us
• 27:52
  about
• 27:52
  that.
• 27:53
  Okay.
• 27:53
  So
• 27:54
  it's
• 27:54
  surprising
• 27:55
  that
• 27:55
  you
• 27:55
  mentioned
• 27:56
  Laurie.
• 27:56
  She
• 27:56
  was
• 27:57
  actually
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  first.
• 27:58
  First
• 27:58
  person
• 27:59
  when
• 28:00
  I
• 28:00
  was
• 28:00
  getting
• 28:00
  ready
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  do
• 28:01
  something
• 28:02
  with
• 28:02
  media
• 28:03
  that
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  talked
• 28:04
  to.
• 28:05
  Oh,
• 28:06
  okay,
• 28:06
  terrific.
• 28:07
  It's
• 28:08
  been
• 28:08
  done
• 28:08
  over
• 28:09
  time.
• 28:09
  It
• 28:09
  wasn't
• 28:09
  just
• 28:10
  done.
• 28:10
  It's
• 28:11
  been
• 28:11
  done
• 28:11
  over
• 28:11
  some
• 28:11
  years.
• 28:12
  And
• 28:13
  just
• 28:13
  really
• 28:13
  reaching
• 28:14
  out
• 28:14
  to
• 28:14
  people,
• 28:15
  because
• 28:15
  you
• 28:15
  don't
• 28:16
  know
• 28:16
  who's
• 28:17
  going
• 28:17
  to
• 28:17
  say
• 28:17
  yes,
• 28:17
  who's
• 28:18
  going
• 28:18
  to
• 28:18
  say
• 28:18
  no.
• 28:19
  I'm
• 28:20
  going
• 28:20
  to
• 28:20
  say,
• 28:20
  as
• 28:20
  an
• 28:21
  individual,
• 28:22
  just
• 28:22
  because
• 28:23
  somebody
• 28:23
  says
• 28:23
  no
• 28:24
  doesn't
• 28:24
  mean
• 28:24
  someone
• 28:24
  else
• 28:25
  isn't
• 28:25
  going
• 28:25
  to
• 28:25
  say
• 28:26
  yes.
• 28:27
  And
• 28:27
  so
• 28:27
  I
• 28:27
  do
• 28:28
  reach
• 28:28
  out
• 28:28
  to
• 28:28
  different
• 28:29
  forms
• 28:29
  of
• 28:30
  media.
• 28:30
  Your
• 28:31
  form
• 28:31
  of
• 28:31
  media
• 28:32
  reached
• 28:32
  out
• 28:32
  to
• 28:32
  you.
• 28:33
  You
• 28:33
  said
• 28:33
  yes.
• 28:36
  Absolutely.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:38
  that's
• 28:39
  important.
• 28:39
  You
• 28:39
  just
• 28:40
  have
• 28:40
  to
• 28:40
  just
• 28:40
  reach
• 28:41
  out.
• 28:41
  And
• 28:42
  of
• 28:42
  course,
• 28:42
  sometimes
• 28:43
  you
• 28:43
  do
• 28:43
  get
• 28:43
  discouraged
• 28:44
  if
• 28:44
  you
• 28:44
  don't
• 28:44
  get
• 28:44
  a
• 28:45
  yes
• 28:45
  right
• 28:45
  away,
• 28:46
  but
• 28:46
  you
• 28:46
  still
• 28:47
  keep
• 28:47
  pressing
• 28:48
  in
• 28:48
  there.
• 28:48
  Maybe
• 28:49
  you
• 28:49
  don't
• 28:49
  physically
• 28:50
  get
• 28:50
  on
• 28:50
  tv.
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  have
• 28:51
  not
• 28:52
  physically
• 28:52
  made
• 28:53
  it
• 28:53
  on
• 28:53
  tv,
• 28:54
  but
• 28:54
  my
• 28:54
  books
• 28:55
  have
• 28:55
  made
• 28:55
  it
• 28:55
  on
• 28:56
  television.
• 28:56
  And
• 28:56
  at
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  end
• 28:57
  of
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  Day.
• 28:58
  That's
• 28:58
  what
• 28:58
  you're
• 28:58
  promoting
• 28:59
  is
• 28:59
  your
• 28:59
  books?
• 29:00
  Yes,
• 29:01
  and
• 29:01
  that's
• 29:01
  what
• 29:01
  I'm
• 29:02
  promoting.
• 29:02
  Yeah.
• 29:03
  So
• 29:03
  that's
• 29:04
  terrific.
• 29:04
  You
• 29:05
  know
• 29:05
  what
• 29:05
  I
• 29:05
  just
• 29:05
  want
• 29:06
  to
• 29:06
  say
• 29:06
  to
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  audience.
• 29:07
  We've
• 29:07
  been
• 29:07
  talking
• 29:07
  about
• 29:08
  EARN
• 29:08
  Media
• 29:09
  lately
• 29:09
  on
• 29:10
  our
• 29:10
  podcast
• 29:11
  show,
• 29:11
  if
• 29:11
  you
• 29:11
  want
• 29:12
  us
• 29:13
  really
• 29:14
  see
• 29:14
  what
• 29:14
  it's
• 29:14
  all
• 29:15
  about,
• 29:16
  go
• 29:16
  to
• 29:16
  Stinetta's
• 29:17
  website
• 29:18
  and
• 29:18
  we'll
• 29:19
  put
• 29:19
  the
• 29:19
  links
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  her
• 29:20
  website
• 29:20
  in
• 29:21
  our
• 29:21
  show
• 29:21
  notes.
• 29:21
  But
• 29:22
  go
• 29:22
  there
• 29:22
  and
• 29:22
  have
• 29:23
  a
• 29:23
  look.
• 29:23
  It's
• 29:23
  just
• 29:24
  absolutely
• 29:25
  amazing.
• 29:25
  So
• 29:26
  congratulations
• 29:27
  on
• 29:27
  doing
• 29:27
  that.
• 29:28
  Thank
• 29:29
  you
• 29:29
  so
• 29:29
  much,
• 29:29
  Rick.
• 29:30
  It's
• 29:30
  work,
• 29:31
  but
• 29:31
  it's
• 29:31
  an
• 29:32
  enjoyable
• 29:32
  work.
• 29:33
  I
• 29:34
  love
• 29:34
  it.
• 29:34
  I
• 29:35
  love
• 29:35
  it.
• 29:35
  The
• 29:36
  other
• 29:36
  thing
• 29:36
  I
• 29:36
  noticed
• 29:37
  on
• 29:37
  your
• 29:37
  website
• 29:37
  is
• 29:38
  you've
• 29:38
  done
• 29:38
  book
• 29:39
  trailers.
• 29:40
  So
• 29:41
  talk
• 29:41
  to
• 29:41
  us
• 29:41
  about
• 29:41
  how
• 29:42
  you
• 29:42
  develop
• 29:42
  those
• 29:43
  book
• 29:43
  trailers.
• 29:43
  And
• 29:44
  just
• 29:44
  so
• 29:44
  everyone
• 29:44
  understands,
• 29:45
  the
• 29:45
  book
• 29:46
  trailers
• 29:46
  are
• 29:47
  hosted
• 29:47
  on
• 29:48
  Stettis
• 29:49
  YouTube
• 29:49
  channel.
• 29:50
  Is
• 29:50
  that
• 29:50
  correct?
• 29:51
  Okay.
• 29:51
  So
• 29:52
  I
• 29:52
  don't
• 29:52
  have
• 29:52
  a
• 29:53
  YouTube
• 29:53
  channel.
• 29:53
  As
• 29:54
  part
• 29:54
  of
• 29:54
  Covenant
• 29:55
  Policy,
• 29:56
  they
• 29:56
  do
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  book
• 29:57
  trailer.
• 29:58
  So
• 29:58
  I
• 29:58
  didn't
• 29:59
  do
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  book
• 29:59
  trailer.
• 30:00
  So
• 30:01
  they
• 30:01
  did
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  book
• 30:01
  trailer.
• 30:02
  But
• 30:02
  for
• 30:03
  my
• 30:03
  first
• 30:03
  book,
• 30:04
  it
• 30:04
  was
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  friend,
• 30:05
  he's
• 30:05
  passed
• 30:05
  on.
• 30:06
  He
• 30:06
  did
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  book
• 30:07
  trailer
• 30:08
  for
• 30:08
  me.
• 30:09
  And
• 30:10
  so
• 30:10
  I
• 30:10
  don't
• 30:11
  have
• 30:11
  a
• 30:11
  YouTube
• 30:12
  channel.
• 30:13
  So
• 30:13
  I
• 30:13
  just
• 30:13
  put
• 30:13
  the.
• 30:14
  I
• 30:14
  just
• 30:14
  put
• 30:15
  them
• 30:15
  up
• 30:15
  there.
• 30:16
  Okay,
• 30:16
  terrific,
• 30:17
  terrific.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:18
  I
• 30:18
  thought
• 30:18
  you
• 30:19
  did,
• 30:19
  but
• 30:19
  that's
• 30:19
  okay.
• 30:20
  The
• 30:20
  thing
• 30:20
  is,
• 30:20
  you've
• 30:20
  got
• 30:21
  your
• 30:21
  book
• 30:21
  trailers,
• 30:21
  which
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  really
• 30:22
  like.
• 30:23
  The
• 30:23
  other
• 30:23
  thing
• 30:24
  I
• 30:24
  love
• 30:24
  and
• 30:24
  I've
• 30:25
  yet
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  see
• 30:25
  somebody
• 30:26
  do
• 30:26
  this
• 30:27
  is
• 30:27
  you
• 30:28
  have
• 30:28
  what's
• 30:28
  called
• 30:29
  read
• 30:30
  alouds
• 30:30
  on
• 30:30
  your
• 30:31
  website.
• 30:32
  And
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  thought,
• 30:33
  wow,
• 30:33
  so
• 30:34
  tell
• 30:34
  us
• 30:34
  how
• 30:35
  you
• 30:35
  came
• 30:35
  up
• 30:35
  with
• 30:35
  that
• 30:36
  whole
• 30:36
  idea
• 30:36
  and
• 30:37
  how
• 30:37
  is
• 30:37
  it
• 30:37
  working
• 30:38
  for
• 30:38
  you?
• 30:39
  Okay,
• 30:40
  So
• 30:40
  I
• 30:40
  watched
• 30:41
  other
• 30:41
  authors
• 30:42
  and
• 30:42
  I
• 30:43
  visit
• 30:43
  their
• 30:43
  websites
• 30:44
  and
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  look
• 30:45
  at
• 30:45
  what
• 30:46
  they
• 30:46
  have.
• 30:47
  And
• 30:47
  so
• 30:47
  I
• 30:48
  seen
• 30:48
  a
• 30:48
  few
• 30:49
  of
• 30:49
  them
• 30:49
  where
• 30:50
  they
• 30:50
  had
• 30:50
  their
• 30:50
  read
• 30:51
  aloud
• 30:51
  somewhere.
• 30:51
  And
• 30:52
  I
• 30:52
  said,
• 30:53
  okay,
• 30:53
  I
• 30:53
  got
• 30:53
  a
• 30:54
  few.
• 30:54
  Read
• 30:54
  aloud.
• 30:55
  Say
• 30:55
  to
• 30:56
  everybody
• 30:56
  what
• 30:56
  a
• 30:56
  read
• 30:57
  aloud
• 30:57
  is,
• 30:57
  because
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  had
• 30:58
  never
• 30:58
  seen
• 30:59
  that
• 30:59
  before.
• 31:00
  So
• 31:00
  tell
• 31:00
  us
• 31:00
  what
• 31:01
  that
• 31:01
  is.
• 31:02
  So
• 31:02
  read
• 31:02
  aloud
• 31:03
  is
• 31:03
  twofold.
• 31:04
  So
• 31:04
  it's
• 31:05
  either
• 31:05
  where
• 31:06
  you
• 31:06
  as
• 31:06
  the
• 31:07
  author
• 31:08
  before
• 31:08
  a
• 31:09
  camera
• 31:10
  and
• 31:10
  you
• 31:10
  can
• 31:10
  be
• 31:11
  at
• 31:11
  home.
• 31:12
  Yeah,
• 31:12
  I
• 31:13
  was
• 31:13
  at
• 31:13
  home
• 31:13
  and
• 31:14
  I
• 31:14
  decided
• 31:15
  to
• 31:15
  read
• 31:15
  my
• 31:16
  book
• 31:16
  aloud.
• 31:17
  Read
• 31:17
  the
• 31:18
  entire
• 31:18
  story.
• 31:19
  And
• 31:19
  after
• 31:20
  you
• 31:20
  read
• 31:20
  the
• 31:20
  entire
• 31:21
  story,
• 31:21
  then
• 31:21
  you
• 31:22
  post
• 31:22
  it
• 31:22
  on
• 31:23
  YouTube
• 31:24
  or
• 31:24
  whatever
• 31:25
  social
• 31:25
  media
• 31:25
  platform
• 31:26
  you
• 31:26
  want
• 31:26
  to
• 31:26
  put
• 31:26
  it
• 31:27
  on.
• 31:27
  And
• 31:28
  then
• 31:28
  also
• 31:29
  the
• 31:29
  second
• 31:29
  part
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  read
• 31:30
  aloud
• 31:30
  is
• 31:31
  you
• 31:31
  may
• 31:32
  request
• 31:33
  someone
• 31:33
  who
• 31:34
  may
• 31:34
  have
• 31:34
  a
• 31:34
  YouTube
• 31:35
  channel
• 31:35
  that
• 31:35
  may
• 31:36
  be
• 31:36
  a.
• 31:36
  They
• 31:37
  may
• 31:37
  not
• 31:37
  be
• 31:37
  a
• 31:37
  children's
• 31:38
  author,
• 31:38
  but
• 31:38
  they
• 31:39
  read
• 31:39
  children's
• 31:39
  books.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:41
  so
• 31:41
  with
• 31:41
  reading
• 31:42
  children's
• 31:42
  books,
• 31:43
  you
• 31:44
  may
• 31:44
  reach
• 31:44
  out
• 31:44
  to
• 31:44
  them
• 31:45
  or
• 31:45
  they
• 31:45
  may
• 31:45
  reach
• 31:46
  out
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  you
• 31:47
  and
• 31:47
  they
• 31:47
  would
• 31:48
  read
• 31:48
  your
• 31:48
  book
• 31:49
  aloud.
• 31:49
  So
• 31:50
  sometimes
• 31:51
  when
• 31:51
  you're
• 31:51
  promoting,
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  could
• 31:52
  say,
• 31:53
  okay,
• 31:53
  I
• 31:53
  can
• 31:53
  come
• 31:54
  to
• 31:54
  you
• 31:55
  physically,
• 31:57
  but
• 31:57
  my
• 31:57
  book
• 31:58
  can
• 31:58
  come
• 31:58
  to
• 31:58
  you
• 31:59
  through
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  read
• 31:59
  aloud.
• 32:00
  And
• 32:00
  so
• 32:00
  you
• 32:01
  can
• 32:01
  do
• 32:01
  all
• 32:01
  kind
• 32:02
  of
• 32:02
  things
• 32:02
  with
• 32:02
  the
• 32:02
  read
• 32:02
  aloud.
• 32:03
  You
• 32:03
  can
• 32:04
  have
• 32:04
  the
• 32:04
  voiceovers,
• 32:05
  you
• 32:06
  can
• 32:06
  have
• 32:06
  background
• 32:07
  music,
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  can
• 32:09
  do
• 32:09
  whatever
• 32:10
  you
• 32:10
  want
• 32:11
  to
• 32:11
  do.
• 32:11
  If
• 32:12
  you're
• 32:12
  technically
• 32:12
  inclined
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  do
• 32:13
  it,
• 32:14
  then
• 32:14
  I
• 32:15
  say
• 32:15
  go
• 32:15
  for
• 32:16
  it.
• 32:16
  And
• 32:16
  yeah,
• 32:17
  just
• 32:17
  get
• 32:17
  a
• 32:17
  camera.
• 32:18
  Even
• 32:18
  have
• 32:19
  a
• 32:19
  child
• 32:19
  maybe
• 32:20
  if
• 32:20
  they're
• 32:21
  mature
• 32:21
  enough
• 32:21
  to
• 32:22
  do
• 32:22
  your
• 32:23
  read
• 32:23
  aloud
• 32:23
  for
• 32:24
  you
• 32:24
  and
• 32:24
  post
• 32:25
  it
• 32:25
  on
• 32:25
  your
• 32:25
  outside.
• 32:27
  Terrific,
• 32:27
  terrific.
• 32:28
  Has
• 32:28
  that
• 32:28
  help
• 32:29
  you
• 32:29
  sell
• 32:29
  books
• 32:30
  and
• 32:31
  tell
• 32:31
  us
• 32:31
  about
• 32:32
  that?
• 32:33
  Okay,
• 32:33
  it
• 32:33
  did
• 32:34
  help
• 32:34
  me
• 32:34
  because
• 32:34
  I
• 32:35
  had
• 32:35
  someone
• 32:35
  who
• 32:36
  visit
• 32:36
  my
• 32:37
  website
• 32:37
  from
• 32:37
  Barnes
• 32:38
  and
• 32:38
  Noble.
• 32:39
  And
• 32:40
  so,
• 32:40
  okay,
• 32:41
  yeah,
• 32:41
  after
• 32:42
  they
• 32:43
  seen
• 32:43
  my
• 32:43
  book
• 32:44
  on
• 32:44
  Barnes
• 32:45
  and
• 32:45
  Noble,
• 32:46
  they
• 32:47
  invited
• 32:47
  me
• 32:47
  to
• 32:47
  come
• 32:48
  in
• 32:48
  to
• 32:48
  do
• 32:49
  story
• 32:49
  time.
• 32:51
  And
• 32:51
  so
• 32:51
  that
• 32:51
  was
• 32:52
  exciting.
• 32:53
  They
• 32:53
  went
• 32:53
  on
• 32:53
  to
• 32:53
  your
• 32:53
  website,
• 32:54
  saw
• 32:54
  your
• 32:54
  read
• 32:55
  aloud,
• 32:55
  and
• 32:55
  they
• 32:56
  invited
• 32:56
  you
• 32:56
  to
• 32:57
  one
• 32:57
  of
• 32:57
  the
• 32:57
  stores
• 32:57
  to
• 32:58
  do
• 32:58
  a
• 32:58
  reading.
• 32:59
  Yeah,
• 33:01
  to
• 33:01
  do
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  reading.
• 33:02
  Terrific,
• 33:02
  terrific.
• 33:03
  After
• 33:04
  that
• 33:04
  reading
• 33:04
  or
• 33:05
  during
• 33:05
  the
• 33:05
  reading,
• 33:05
  did
• 33:06
  you
• 33:06
  get
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  stay
• 33:07
  and
• 33:07
  get
• 33:07
  to
• 33:07
  sell
• 33:08
  your
• 33:08
  books?
• 33:09
  Yes,
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  did.
• 33:10
  And
• 33:10
  so
• 33:10
  that
• 33:11
  was
• 33:11
  a
• 33:12
  great
• 33:12
  thing.
• 33:12
  If
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
  can
• 33:14
  reach
• 33:14
  out
• 33:14
  to
• 33:14
  your
• 33:15
  local
• 33:15
  Barnes
• 33:16
  and
• 33:16
  Noble
• 33:17
  and
• 33:18
  ask
• 33:18
  them
• 33:18
  about
• 33:19
  story
• 33:19
  time,
• 33:19
  visit
• 33:20
  their
• 33:20
  website.
• 33:21
  On
• 33:21
  their
• 33:21
  website,
• 33:22
  they
• 33:22
  have
• 33:23
  story
• 33:23
  times,
• 33:24
  different
• 33:24
  events.
• 33:25
  Look
• 33:25
  specifically
• 33:26
  under,
• 33:27
  I
• 33:27
  believe
• 33:27
  it's
• 33:28
  events
• 33:29
  under
• 33:29
  bars
• 33:29
  and
• 33:30
  Google.
• 33:30
  Go
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  your
• 33:31
  local
• 33:31
  store's
• 33:32
  website
• 33:33
  and
• 33:33
  look
• 33:33
  under
• 33:33
  events
• 33:34
  and
• 33:34
  see
• 33:35
  if
• 33:35
  they
• 33:35
  have
• 33:35
  a
• 33:35
  story
• 33:36
  time.
• 33:37
  See
• 33:37
  if
• 33:37
  they
• 33:37
  have
• 33:37
  a
• 33:37
  story
• 33:38
  time
• 33:38
  and
• 33:38
  then
• 33:39
  reach
• 33:39
  out
• 33:39
  to
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  store.
• 33:42
  I
• 33:42
  would
• 33:42
  say
• 33:42
  reach
• 33:42
  out
• 33:43
  to
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  store
• 33:43
  manager.
• 33:44
  You
• 33:44
  may
• 33:44
  have
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  make
• 33:44
  a
• 33:45
  phone
• 33:45
  call
• 33:45
  to
• 33:46
  see
• 33:46
  who
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  store
• 33:46
  manager
• 33:47
  is
• 33:47
  and
• 33:48
  get
• 33:48
  their
• 33:48
  contact
• 33:49
  information
• 33:49
  and
• 33:49
  reach
• 33:50
  out
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  them.
• 33:51
  Like
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  said,
• 33:52
  you
• 33:52
  don't
• 33:52
  know
• 33:53
  if
• 33:53
  they're
• 33:54
  going
• 33:54
  to
• 33:54
  say
• 33:54
  yes
• 33:55
  or
• 33:55
  if
• 33:55
  they're
• 33:55
  going
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  say
• 33:56
  no.
• 33:57
  But
• 33:57
  it's
• 33:58
  just
• 33:58
  worth
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  try.
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  just
• 33:59
  love
• 33:59
  that
• 34:00
  and
• 34:00
  it's
• 34:00
  great
• 34:00
  because
• 34:01
  I've
• 34:02
  Talked
• 34:02
  to
• 34:02
  over
• 34:02
  60
• 34:03
  children's
• 34:03
  book
• 34:03
  authors
• 34:04
  now
• 34:05
  no
• 34:05
  one
• 34:05
  has
• 34:06
  a
• 34:06
  read
• 34:06
  aloud
• 34:07
  on
• 34:07
  their
• 34:07
  website.
• 34:08
  So
• 34:08
  thank
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  for
• 34:09
  sharing
• 34:09
  that
• 34:09
  because
• 34:10
  again,
• 34:10
  it's
• 34:11
  very
• 34:11
  important
• 34:11
  as
• 34:12
  a
• 34:12
  children's
• 34:12
  book
• 34:13
  author
• 34:13
  learning
• 34:13
  how
• 34:14
  do
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  promote
• 34:15
  myself,
• 34:16
  how
• 34:16
  do
• 34:16
  I
• 34:16
  reach
• 34:17
  out?
• 34:17
  And
• 34:17
  it's
• 34:17
  great
• 34:18
  when
• 34:18
  you
• 34:18
  can
• 34:18
  actually
• 34:19
  just
• 34:19
  take
• 34:20
  your
• 34:20
  own
• 34:20
  book,
• 34:21
  do
• 34:21
  read
• 34:22
  aloud,
• 34:22
  and
• 34:23
  then
• 34:24
  you
• 34:24
  never
• 34:24
  know
• 34:25
  where
• 34:25
  it
• 34:25
  goes.
• 34:27
  You
• 34:27
  just.
• 34:27
  You
• 34:28
  never
• 34:28
  know.
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  could
• 34:29
  go
• 34:29
  into
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  classroom.
• 34:30
  It
• 34:30
  can.
• 34:31
  It
• 34:31
  just
• 34:31
  can
• 34:32
  go.
• 34:33
  You
• 34:33
  just
• 34:34
  never
• 34:34
  know.
• 34:34
  I'm
• 34:34
  going
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  say,
• 34:35
  you
• 34:35
  just
• 34:35
  never
• 34:35
  know
• 34:36
  because
• 34:36
  you
• 34:36
  don't
• 34:36
  know
• 34:37
  who's
• 34:37
  visiting
• 34:37
  your
• 34:37
  website.
• 34:38
  You
• 34:38
  just
• 34:39
  Never
• 34:39
  know.
• 34:40
  Was
• 34:41
  there
• 34:41
  a
• 34:41
  specific
• 34:42
  person
• 34:43
  or
• 34:43
  event
• 34:44
  that
• 34:44
  got
• 34:45
  this
• 34:45
  whole.
• 34:46
  I
• 34:46
  know
• 34:46
  you
• 34:47
  talked
• 34:47
  about
• 34:47
  your
• 34:47
  educational
• 34:48
  background.
• 34:49
  You
• 34:49
  talked
• 34:50
  about
• 34:50
  reading
• 34:51
  thousands
• 34:51
  of
• 34:51
  books
• 34:52
  over
• 34:52
  the
• 34:52
  years
• 34:53
  and
• 34:53
  how
• 34:54
  you'd
• 34:54
  like
• 34:54
  to
• 34:55
  mix
• 34:55
  it
• 34:55
  up
• 34:55
  a
• 34:56
  bit
• 34:56
  in
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  classroom,
• 34:57
  which
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  think
• 34:57
  is
• 34:57
  very
• 34:58
  cool.
• 34:59
  So
• 34:59
  was
• 34:59
  there
• 35:00
  a
• 35:00
  specific
• 35:00
  person
• 35:01
  or
• 35:01
  event
• 35:01
  that
• 35:02
  you
• 35:02
  finally
• 35:03
  had
• 35:03
  the
• 35:03
  light
• 35:04
  bulb
• 35:04
  go
• 35:04
  on?
• 35:04
  And
• 35:05
  you
• 35:05
  said,
• 35:05
  ah,
• 35:06
  I'm
• 35:06
  going
• 35:07
  to
• 35:07
  be
• 35:07
  a
• 35:07
  children's
• 35:07
  book
• 35:08
  author.
• 35:08
  Tell
• 35:09
  us
• 35:09
  about
• 35:09
  that.
• 35:10
  Okay.
• 35:11
  So
• 35:11
  that
• 35:11
  credit
• 35:11
  goes
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  my
• 35:12
  sister
• 35:12
  in
• 35:13
  law.
• 35:13
  And
• 35:14
  I
• 35:14
  read
• 35:14
  her
• 35:15
  my
• 35:15
  first
• 35:15
  book.
• 35:16
  Book.
• 35:16
  And
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  read
• 35:18
  it
• 35:18
  as
• 35:18
  a
• 35:18
  story.
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  was
• 35:20
  actually
• 35:20
  asked
• 35:21
  by
• 35:21
  someone
• 35:21
  to
• 35:22
  create
• 35:22
  a
• 35:23
  curriculum
• 35:23
  for
• 35:24
  something,
• 35:24
  a
• 35:25
  particular
• 35:25
  nursery.
• 35:27
  The
• 35:27
  story
• 35:27
  that
• 35:27
  I
• 35:28
  wrote,
• 35:28
  my
• 35:28
  first
• 35:29
  story,
• 35:29
  was
• 35:29
  going
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  be
• 35:30
  included
• 35:31
  in
• 35:32
  that
• 35:32
  particular
• 35:32
  curriculum,
• 35:33
  but
• 35:33
  I
• 35:34
  decided
• 35:34
  not
• 35:34
  to
• 35:35
  do
• 35:35
  it.
• 35:37
  So
• 35:37
  I
• 35:37
  talked
• 35:37
  to
• 35:37
  my
• 35:38
  sister
• 35:38
  in
• 35:38
  law.
• 35:38
  We
• 35:38
  were
• 35:39
  having
• 35:39
  this
• 35:39
  conversation
• 35:40
  one
• 35:40
  day,
• 35:41
  and
• 35:41
  she
• 35:41
  said,
• 35:41
  what
• 35:42
  are
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  working
• 35:42
  on?
• 35:43
  And
• 35:43
  I
• 35:43
  said,
• 35:43
  let
• 35:43
  me
• 35:43
  read
• 35:44
  you
• 35:44
  this
• 35:44
  little
• 35:44
  story.
• 35:46
  And
• 35:46
  she
• 35:47
  said,
• 35:47
  where
• 35:48
  did
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  get
• 35:48
  that
• 35:48
  book
• 35:49
  from?
• 35:52
  So
• 35:52
  she
• 35:52
  thought
• 35:53
  you
• 35:53
  had
• 35:55
  found
• 35:55
  this
• 35:55
  children's
• 35:56
  book
• 35:56
  and
• 35:56
  read
• 35:57
  it
• 35:57
  to.
• 35:57
  Yes.
• 35:58
  And
• 35:59
  she.
• 35:59
  That's
• 35:59
  what
• 35:59
  she
• 36:00
  thought.
• 36:00
  And
• 36:00
  so
• 36:00
  that
• 36:00
  was
• 36:01
  an
• 36:01
  aha
• 36:01
  moment
• 36:02
  for
• 36:02
  me.
• 36:03
  And
• 36:03
  she
• 36:03
  said
• 36:04
  to
• 36:04
  me,
• 36:04
  st.
• 36:05
  Have
• 36:06
  you
• 36:06
  ever
• 36:07
  thought
• 36:07
  about.
• 36:07
  And
• 36:08
  I
• 36:08
  say,
• 36:08
  it's
• 36:08
  just
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  story.
• 36:09
  Story.
• 36:09
  It's
• 36:09
  just
• 36:10
  a
• 36:10
  story.
• 36:11
  And
• 36:11
  she
• 36:12
  said,
• 36:12
  have
• 36:12
  you
• 36:12
  ever
• 36:13
  thought
• 36:13
  about
• 36:14
  writing
• 36:14
  children's
• 36:15
  book?
• 36:15
  And
• 36:15
  I
• 36:15
  said,
• 36:16
  no.
• 36:17
  And
• 36:18
  she
• 36:18
  said,
• 36:19
  maybe
• 36:19
  you
• 36:19
  should
• 36:19
  think
• 36:20
  about
• 36:20
  it.
• 36:21
  Maybe
• 36:21
  you
• 36:21
  should
• 36:22
  think
• 36:22
  about
• 36:22
  it.
• 36:23
  And
• 36:23
  after
• 36:24
  a
• 36:24
  few
• 36:24
  months
• 36:25
  of
• 36:25
  thinking
• 36:25
  about
• 36:25
  it,
• 36:25
  I
• 36:26
  said,
• 36:26
  oh,
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  think
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  can
• 36:27
  do
• 36:28
  this.
• 36:28
  I
• 36:28
  think
• 36:28
  I
• 36:29
  can
• 36:29
  do
• 36:29
  this.
• 36:30
  And
• 36:30
  so
• 36:30
  that
• 36:31
  she
• 36:31
  was
• 36:31
  my
• 36:32
  inspiration.
• 36:33
  And
• 36:33
  she
• 36:33
  was
• 36:34
  my
• 36:34
  aha
• 36:34
  moment.
• 36:35
  That's
• 36:36
  terrific.
• 36:37
  I
• 36:37
  love
• 36:37
  it.
• 36:37
  I
• 36:38
  love
• 36:38
  it.
• 36:38
  I
• 36:38
  want
• 36:38
  to
• 36:39
  talk
• 36:39
  a
• 36:39
  bit
• 36:39
  about
• 36:40
  your
• 36:40
  character
• 36:40
  development,
• 36:41
  because
• 36:41
  I
• 36:41
  know
• 36:42
  when
• 36:42
  you
• 36:42
  were
• 36:43
  talking
• 36:43
  about
• 36:43
  Ella,
• 36:44
  you
• 36:44
  talked
• 36:45
  about
• 36:45
  really,
• 36:45
  it's
• 36:45
  a
• 36:46
  reflection
• 36:46
  of
• 36:46
  you.
• 36:47
  Tell
• 36:48
  us
• 36:48
  more
• 36:48
  about
• 36:48
  that.
• 36:49
  Why
• 36:50
  an
• 36:50
  elephant?
• 36:51
  And
• 36:52
  take
• 36:53
  us
• 36:53
  through
• 36:54
  your
• 36:54
  total
• 36:55
  approach
• 36:55
  to
• 36:56
  Ella's
• 36:56
  character
• 36:57
  development.
• 36:59
  Okay.
• 36:59
  So
• 37:01
  I'm
• 37:02
  gonna
• 37:02
  say
• 37:02
  the
• 37:02
  reason
• 37:02
  why
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  chose
• 37:03
  an
• 37:03
  elephant
• 37:04
  is
• 37:04
  because
• 37:06
  I
• 37:06
  thought
• 37:06
  about
• 37:07
  when
• 37:07
  you
• 37:07
  used
• 37:07
  to
• 37:08
  go
• 37:08
  to
• 37:08
  the
• 37:08
  circus
• 37:09
  and
• 37:10
  you
• 37:10
  seen
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  dancers
• 37:12
  and
• 37:12
  everything,
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  you've
• 37:13
  seen
• 37:13
  the
• 37:14
  elephants,
• 37:14
  and
• 37:15
  they
• 37:15
  would
• 37:15
  always
• 37:15
  have
• 37:16
  on
• 37:16
  that.
• 37:16
  Some
• 37:17
  people
• 37:17
  who
• 37:17
  are
• 37:18
  older,
• 37:18
  younger,
• 37:19
  I'm
• 37:19
  saying
• 37:20
  they
• 37:20
  may
• 37:20
  not
• 37:20
  remember
• 37:21
  going
• 37:22
  to
• 37:22
  wrangling.
• 37:23
  I'm
• 37:23
  gonna
• 37:23
  say,
• 37:24
  going
• 37:24
  to
• 37:24
  wrangling,
• 37:25
  brother.
• 37:25
  She
• 37:25
  would
• 37:26
  go,
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  you
• 37:27
  would
• 37:27
  see
• 37:27
  the
• 37:27
  elephants
• 37:28
  on
• 37:28
  the
• 37:28
  little
• 37:28
  stage
• 37:29
  sand,
• 37:29
  and
• 37:29
  then
• 37:29
  they
• 37:29
  would
• 37:29
  turn
• 37:30
  around
• 37:31
  and
• 37:32
  it
• 37:32
  always
• 37:32
  seems
• 37:33
  as
• 37:33
  if
• 37:33
  they
• 37:33
  would
• 37:33
  stumble
• 37:34
  or
• 37:35
  something.
• 37:36
  And
• 37:36
  so
• 37:36
  actually
• 37:37
  that's
• 37:37
  how.
• 37:38
  Just
• 37:38
  reflecting
• 37:39
  back
• 37:39
  on
• 37:40
  those
• 37:40
  days
• 37:40
  of
• 37:41
  when
• 37:41
  I
• 37:41
  would
• 37:41
  go
• 37:41
  to
• 37:42
  the
• 37:42
  circus
• 37:43
  and
• 37:43
  I
• 37:43
  would
• 37:43
  watch
• 37:44
  the
• 37:44
  elephants
• 37:45
  dance
• 37:45
  around
• 37:46
  and
• 37:46
  everything.
• 37:47
  And
• 37:47
  I
• 37:47
  was
• 37:48
  saying
• 37:48
  they
• 37:48
  would
• 37:49
  never
• 37:49
  be
• 37:49
  a
• 37:49
  ballet
• 37:50
  dance.
• 37:51
  The
• 37:52
  thing
• 37:52
  I
• 37:52
  love
• 37:52
  about
• 37:52
  the
• 37:53
  elephant,
• 37:53
  too,
• 37:54
  is,
• 37:54
  is
• 37:55
  most
• 37:55
  people
• 37:55
  know
• 37:55
  that
• 37:56
  an
• 37:56
  elephant
• 37:56
  is
• 37:56
  gray,
• 37:57
  and
• 37:58
  with
• 37:58
  the
• 37:58
  pink
• 37:59
  tutu,
• 38:00
  it's
• 38:01
  great
• 38:01
  contrast.
• 38:03
  So
• 38:03
  did
• 38:03
  you
• 38:04
  take
• 38:04
  that
• 38:04
  into
• 38:04
  consideration
• 38:05
  when
• 38:06
  you
• 38:06
  were
• 38:06
  doing
• 38:06
  this?
• 38:07
  Yes.
• 38:08
  I
• 38:08
  wanted
• 38:08
  the
• 38:08
  elephant
• 38:09
  to
• 38:09
  look
• 38:09
  girly.
• 38:10
  Yes.
• 38:12
  Yeah.
• 38:13
  But
• 38:14
  you
• 38:14
  know
• 38:14
  what?
• 38:14
  Gray
• 38:15
  and
• 38:15
  pink,
• 38:15
  those
• 38:15
  colors
• 38:16
  go
• 38:16
  together
• 38:16
  quite
• 38:17
  well.
• 38:17
  Yes.
• 38:18
  So
• 38:18
  I
• 38:18
  went
• 38:18
  ahead
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  look.
• 38:20
  I
• 38:20
  wanted
• 38:20
  her
• 38:20
  to
• 38:20
  look
• 38:21
  dainty.
• 38:22
  I
• 38:23
  wanted
• 38:23
  her
• 38:23
  to
• 38:23
  look
• 38:24
  like
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  ballerina.
• 38:25
  And
• 38:25
  so
• 38:25
  ballerinas
• 38:26
  always
• 38:26
  have
• 38:27
  on
• 38:27
  tutus.
• 38:28
  Yes.
• 38:29
  And
• 38:29
  so
• 38:30
  even
• 38:30
  with
• 38:31
  the
• 38:31
  elephants,
• 38:31
  I
• 38:32
  can't
• 38:32
  remember
• 38:33
  if
• 38:33
  they
• 38:33
  used
• 38:33
  to
• 38:34
  have
• 38:34
  on
• 38:34
  tutus
• 38:35
  or
• 38:35
  not,
• 38:35
  but,
• 38:37
  yeah,
• 38:37
  I
• 38:38
  just
• 38:38
  wanted
• 38:38
  her
• 38:38
  to
• 38:38
  look
• 38:39
  graceful
• 38:39
  and
• 38:40
  beautiful,
• 38:41
  and
• 38:41
  I
• 38:41
  wanted
• 38:42
  her
• 38:42
  to
• 38:42
  feel
• 38:42
  that
• 38:43
  she
• 38:43
  was
• 38:43
  beautiful
• 38:44
  outside
• 38:45
  as
• 38:45
  well
• 38:45
  as
• 38:45
  inside.
• 38:47
  You
• 38:47
  and
• 38:48
  I
• 38:48
  were
• 38:48
  talking
• 38:48
  about
• 38:48
  the
• 38:49
  book,
• 38:49
  and
• 38:49
  I
• 38:49
  have
• 38:49
  it
• 38:50
  on
• 38:50
  my
• 38:51
  iPad.
• 38:51
  And
• 38:52
  look,
• 38:52
  it's
• 38:52
  very
• 38:52
  vivid.
• 38:53
  The
• 38:53
  colors
• 38:54
  are
• 38:54
  very
• 38:54
  vivid.
• 38:55
  It's
• 38:55
  really
• 38:55
  nice.
• 38:56
  And
• 38:56
  it's
• 38:56
  fun.
• 38:57
  Definitely
• 38:58
  fun.
• 38:58
  So
• 38:58
  talk
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  us
• 38:59
  about
• 38:59
  the
• 39:00
  character
• 39:00
  development
• 39:01
  in
• 39:01
  terms
• 39:02
  of.
• 39:02
  Because
• 39:02
  I'm
• 39:03
  going
• 39:03
  to
• 39:03
  guess
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  elephant.
• 39:04
  She's
• 39:06
  six
• 39:06
  or
• 39:06
  seven.
• 39:07
  Seven
• 39:07
  or
• 39:07
  eight.
• 39:08
  She's
• 39:09
  about
• 39:10
  seven
• 39:10
  or
• 39:10
  eight.
• 39:11
  And
• 39:11
  she
• 39:11
  likes.
• 39:12
  I
• 39:12
  like
• 39:12
  vibrant
• 39:13
  colors,
• 39:13
  so
• 39:13
  I
• 39:14
  like
• 39:14
  my
• 39:14
  characters
• 39:15
  to
• 39:15
  have
• 39:15
  vibrant
• 39:15
  colors.
• 39:16
  Colors,
• 39:16
  too.
• 39:17
  That
• 39:18
  was
• 39:18
  an
• 39:18
  important
• 39:19
  thing
• 39:19
  to
• 39:19
  me.
• 39:19
  So
• 39:19
  the
• 39:20
  character
• 39:20
  development,
• 39:21
  it
• 39:21
  just
• 39:21
  evolved.
• 39:22
  Just
• 39:22
  looking
• 39:23
  at
• 39:23
  different
• 39:23
  pictures
• 39:24
  and
• 39:24
  thinking
• 39:25
  about
• 39:25
  in
• 39:25
  memory
• 39:26
  of
• 39:27
  what
• 39:27
  I
• 39:27
  thought
• 39:28
  an
• 39:28
  elephant
• 39:28
  should
• 39:29
  look
• 39:29
  like,
• 39:29
  and
• 39:29
  then
• 39:29
  even
• 39:30
  just
• 39:30
  looking
• 39:31
  at.
• 39:31
  It
• 39:31
  was
• 39:31
  a
• 39:32
  particular
• 39:32
  movie
• 39:33
  that
• 39:33
  I
• 39:33
  watched.
• 39:33
  I
• 39:33
  can't
• 39:34
  remember
• 39:34
  the
• 39:34
  name
• 39:34
  of
• 39:35
  the
• 39:35
  movie,
• 39:36
  but
• 39:36
  it
• 39:37
  was
• 39:37
  about
• 39:37
  a
• 39:37
  character
• 39:39
  who
• 39:40
  was
• 39:41
  not
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  traditional
• 39:42
  ballet
• 39:42
  dancer
• 39:43
  circle.
• 39:44
  And
• 39:45
  she
• 39:45
  wasn't
• 39:46
  an
• 39:46
  elephant,
• 39:47
  but
• 39:47
  I'm
• 39:47
  gonna
• 39:47
  say
• 39:48
  she
• 39:48
  wasn't
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  traditional
• 39:50
  thing.
• 39:50
  So
• 39:51
  with
• 39:51
  me,
• 39:51
  with
• 39:51
  character
• 39:52
  development,
• 39:52
  it
• 39:53
  could
• 39:53
  come
• 39:53
  from
• 39:54
  multiple
• 39:54
  things.
• 39:54
  If
• 39:55
  I'm
• 39:55
  watching
• 39:55
  something,
• 39:56
  I
• 39:56
  like
• 39:56
  to
• 39:56
  watch
• 39:56
  cartoons.
• 39:57
  Okay.
• 39:59
  So
• 39:59
  if
• 40:00
  I'm
• 40:00
  watching.
• 40:01
  If
• 40:01
  I'm
• 40:02
  watching
• 40:02
  a
• 40:02
  cartoon,
• 40:03
  sometimes
• 40:04
  the
• 40:04
  character
• 40:05
  Ella
• 40:05
  character
• 40:06
  came
• 40:06
  from
• 40:06
  that.
• 40:07
  Just
• 40:08
  watching
• 40:08
  that
• 40:08
  particular
• 40:09
  movie,
• 40:09
  and
• 40:10
  there
• 40:10
  was.
• 40:11
  I
• 40:11
  can't
• 40:11
  say
• 40:12
  whether
• 40:12
  it
• 40:12
  was
• 40:12
  a
• 40:12
  Disney
• 40:13
  or
• 40:14
  I
• 40:14
  don't
• 40:15
  know,
• 40:15
  but
• 40:16
  just
• 40:16
  watching
• 40:17
  that
• 40:17
  movie,
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  I
• 40:18
  was
• 40:18
  like,
• 40:18
  okay,
• 40:19
  Ella,
• 40:19
  looks
• 40:19
  like
• 40:20
  the
• 40:20
  story
• 40:20
  didn't
• 40:20
  come
• 40:21
  from
• 40:21
  that,
• 40:21
  but
• 40:22
  the
• 40:22
  character
• 40:23
  and
• 40:23
  her
• 40:23
  colors
• 40:24
  came
• 40:24
  from
• 40:25
  that.
• 40:25
  You
• 40:25
  talked
• 40:26
  a
• 40:26
  little
• 40:26
  bit
• 40:26
  about
• 40:26
  your
• 40:27
  theme,
• 40:27
  but
• 40:28
  talk
• 40:28
  to
• 40:28
  us
• 40:28
  a
• 40:28
  bit
• 40:29
  more
• 40:29
  about
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  whole
• 40:32
  theme
• 40:32
  behind
• 40:32
  the
• 40:32
  book.
• 40:34
  The
• 40:34
  whole
• 40:35
  theme
• 40:35
  behind
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  book
• 40:36
  is.
• 40:37
  Is
• 40:38
  I
• 40:39
  would
• 40:39
  just
• 40:39
  say
• 40:39
  is
• 40:40
  to
• 40:40
  follow
• 40:40
  your
• 40:41
  dream.
• 40:42
  That's
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  most
• 40:43
  I
• 40:43
  could
• 40:43
  say,
• 40:43
  is
• 40:44
  to
• 40:44
  follow
• 40:44
  your
• 40:44
  dream.
• 40:45
  No
• 40:45
  matter
• 40:47
  how
• 40:47
  long
• 40:48
  it
• 40:48
  may
• 40:48
  take
• 40:48
  you
• 40:49
  don't
• 40:49
  be
• 40:49
  discouraged.
• 40:51
  Persevere,
• 40:52
  trusting
• 40:53
  yourself.
• 40:53
  Believe
• 40:54
  in
• 40:54
  yourself
• 40:55
  that
• 40:56
  I
• 40:56
  can
• 40:56
  accomplish
• 40:57
  a
• 40:58
  goal,
• 40:58
  even
• 40:58
  though
• 40:59
  it
• 40:59
  may
• 40:59
  seem
• 41:00
  as
• 41:00
  if
• 41:00
  others
• 41:01
  are
• 41:02
  say
• 41:02
  I
• 41:02
  cannot,
• 41:04
  I
• 41:04
  can.
• 41:05
  And
• 41:06
  that
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  guess
• 41:07
  that's
• 41:07
  the
• 41:07
  main
• 41:07
  thing
• 41:08
  that
• 41:08
  I
• 41:08
  would
• 41:08
  say
• 41:09
  and
• 41:09
  love
• 41:09
  and
• 41:10
  find
• 41:10
  your
• 41:10
  own
• 41:10
  support
• 41:11
  group
• 41:12
  because
• 41:13
  even
• 41:13
  if
• 41:13
  there's
• 41:13
  a
• 41:14
  negative,
• 41:14
  although
• 41:15
  there
• 41:15
  may
• 41:15
  be
• 41:15
  a
• 41:15
  negative
• 41:16
  support
• 41:16
  group,
• 41:17
  there
• 41:17
  is
• 41:18
  a
• 41:18
  positive
• 41:18
  support
• 41:19
  group.
• 41:20
  And
• 41:20
  when
• 41:20
  you
• 41:20
  say
• 41:20
  support
• 41:21
  group,
• 41:21
  when
• 41:21
  you
• 41:22
  were
• 41:22
  writing
• 41:22
  the
• 41:22
  book
• 41:23
  Ella
• 41:23
  Learns
• 41:23
  to
• 41:24
  Dance,
• 41:25
  where
• 41:25
  did
• 41:25
  you
• 41:26
  find
• 41:26
  your
• 41:26
  support
• 41:27
  group
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  how
• 41:27
  did
• 41:28
  they
• 41:28
  help
• 41:28
  you?
• 41:29
  My
• 41:30
  family
• 41:30
  is
• 41:30
  my
• 41:31
  biggest
• 41:31
  support
• 41:31
  group.
• 41:32
  Especially
• 41:32
  your
• 41:33
  sister
• 41:33
  in
• 41:33
  law.
• 41:34
  Especially
• 41:35
  my
• 41:35
  sister.
• 41:36
  So
• 41:37
  my,
• 41:37
  my
• 41:38
  family
• 41:38
  is
• 41:39
  my
• 41:39
  biggest
• 41:39
  support
• 41:40
  group.
• 41:40
  They're
• 41:41
  my
• 41:41
  fans
• 41:42
  and
• 41:42
  they're
• 41:43
  my
• 41:43
  critics
• 41:43
  as
• 41:44
  well.
• 41:44
  So
• 41:45
  there.
• 41:45
  And
• 41:46
  then
• 41:46
  a
• 41:46
  few
• 41:46
  friends.
• 41:46
  I
• 41:47
  have
• 41:47
  some
• 41:47
  friends
• 41:47
  that
• 41:48
  are
• 41:49
  a
• 41:49
  big
• 41:49
  support
• 41:50
  group
• 41:50
  as
• 41:50
  well.
• 41:51
  Terrific.
• 41:52
  Terrific.
• 41:52
  It's
• 41:53
  always
• 41:53
  nice
• 41:53
  to
• 41:53
  have
• 41:53
  that
• 41:54
  with
• 41:54
  an
• 41:55
  educational
• 41:55
  background.
• 41:56
  Tell
• 41:57
  us
• 41:57
  about.
• 41:58
  You
• 41:58
  talked
• 41:59
  about
• 41:59
  curriculum
• 42:00
  earlier
• 42:00
  about
• 42:01
  being
• 42:01
  approached
• 42:02
  to
• 42:02
  write
• 42:03
  a
• 42:03
  curriculum
• 42:03
  for
• 42:03
  a
• 42:04
  book.
• 42:05
  Have
• 42:05
  you
• 42:05
  done
• 42:05
  that
• 42:06
  with
• 42:06
  any
• 42:07
  of
• 42:07
  your
• 42:07
  books?
• 42:09
  I've
• 42:09
  done
• 42:10
  them.
• 42:10
  Have
• 42:10
  not
• 42:11
  put
• 42:11
  them
• 42:11
  out.
• 42:12
  I've
• 42:13
  done
• 42:13
  them
• 42:13
  in
• 42:13
  the
• 42:14
  sense
• 42:14
  of
• 42:14
  if
• 42:15
  I'm
• 42:15
  going
• 42:15
  out
• 42:15
  to
• 42:15
  do
• 42:16
  a
• 42:16
  reading
• 42:17
  at
• 42:18
  a
• 42:18
  school
• 42:18
  or
• 42:19
  something,
• 42:20
  I
• 42:20
  put
• 42:20
  some
• 42:21
  things
• 42:21
  together.
• 42:22
  I'm
• 42:22
  not
• 42:22
  just
• 42:22
  coming
• 42:23
  in
• 42:23
  as
• 42:23
  a
• 42:24
  book
• 42:24
  author,
• 42:25
  just
• 42:25
  reading,
• 42:25
  but
• 42:26
  I
• 42:26
  want
• 42:26
  to
• 42:26
  offer
• 42:27
  some
• 42:27
  materials
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  the
• 42:28
  educator
• 42:29
  that
• 42:29
  they
• 42:30
  can
• 42:30
  use
• 42:31
  forward.
• 42:32
  Not
• 42:32
  just
• 42:32
  for
• 42:32
  that
• 42:33
  one
• 42:33
  day,
• 42:33
  but
• 42:33
  they
• 42:33
  could
• 42:34
  use
• 42:34
  forward.
• 42:34
  So
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  have
• 42:35
  put
• 42:35
  together
• 42:36
  some
• 42:36
  things,
• 42:37
  some
• 42:37
  things
• 42:37
  on
• 42:38
  my
• 42:38
  website
• 42:39
  just
• 42:39
  I'm
• 42:39
  going
• 42:40
  to
• 42:40
  say
• 42:40
  little
• 42:40
  worksheets
• 42:41
  and
• 42:41
  things
• 42:41
  like
• 42:41
  that
• 42:42
  where
• 42:43
  you
• 42:43
  can
• 42:43
  pull
• 42:43
  down
• 42:44
  and
• 42:44
  you
• 42:44
  can
• 42:44
  use
• 42:45
  along
• 42:45
  with
• 42:45
  the
• 42:46
  book
• 42:46
  as
• 42:47
  part
• 42:47
  of
• 42:47
  your
• 42:47
  curriculum.
• 42:48
  Maybe
• 42:48
  have
• 42:48
  a
• 42:49
  theme.
• 42:49
  Sometimes
• 42:51
  teachers
• 42:51
  have
• 42:52
  things
• 42:52
  and
• 42:53
  if
• 42:53
  they
• 42:53
  have
• 42:53
  a
• 42:53
  theme
• 42:54
  and
• 42:54
  you
• 42:54
  have
• 42:55
  a
• 42:55
  curriculum
• 42:55
  that
• 42:56
  works
• 42:56
  with
• 42:56
  their
• 42:57
  theme,
• 42:57
  then
• 42:58
  it's
• 42:58
  a
• 42:58
  win
• 42:58
  win.
• 43:00
  They
• 43:00
  got
• 43:00
  the
• 43:00
  book
• 43:01
  and
• 43:01
  they
• 43:01
  got
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  curriculum.
• 43:02
  Okay,
• 43:03
  terrific.
• 43:04
  And
• 43:05
  I
• 43:05
  know
• 43:05
  you've
• 43:06
  talked
• 43:06
  about
• 43:06
  in
• 43:06
  2026
• 43:08
  looking
• 43:08
  to
• 43:09
  launch
• 43:09
  another
• 43:10
  book
• 43:10
  in
• 43:10
  the
• 43:11
  Alla
• 43:11
  series.
• 43:12
  And
• 43:13
  so
• 43:13
  I'm
• 43:13
  curious
• 43:14
  about
• 43:15
  your
• 43:15
  writing
• 43:16
  process.
• 43:17
  Can
• 43:17
  you
• 43:17
  share
• 43:17
  some
• 43:18
  of
• 43:18
  your
• 43:18
  insights
• 43:18
  into
• 43:19
  your
• 43:19
  how
• 43:20
  this
• 43:20
  is
• 43:20
  all
• 43:21
  unfolding?
• 43:22
  And
• 43:22
  when
• 43:22
  you
• 43:23
  first
• 43:23
  started
• 43:23
  Ella
• 43:24
  Learns
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  Dance,
• 43:25
  were
• 43:25
  you
• 43:25
  thinking
• 43:26
  of
• 43:26
  turning
• 43:26
  it
• 43:27
  into
• 43:27
  a
• 43:27
  book
• 43:27
  series
• 43:28
  or
• 43:29
  it
• 43:29
  was
• 43:30
  going
• 43:30
  to
• 43:30
  be
• 43:30
  a
• 43:30
  one
• 43:30
  off
• 43:31
  at
• 43:31
  when
• 43:31
  you
• 43:32
  first
• 43:32
  started?
• 43:33
  I
• 43:33
  think
• 43:33
  it
• 43:34
  was
• 43:34
  going
• 43:34
  to
• 43:34
  be
• 43:34
  a
• 43:34
  one
• 43:34
  off
• 43:35
  when
• 43:35
  I
• 43:35
  first
• 43:36
  started
• 43:36
  but
• 43:37
  when
• 43:37
  I
• 43:38
  kept
• 43:38
  looking
• 43:39
  at
• 43:39
  it,
• 43:39
  I
• 43:39
  said,
• 43:39
  oh,
• 43:40
  I
• 43:40
  think
• 43:40
  I
• 43:40
  could
• 43:40
  stretch
• 43:41
  her
• 43:41
  out
• 43:41
  to
• 43:41
  a
• 43:42
  series.
• 43:42
  So
• 43:43
  it
• 43:43
  was
• 43:43
  going
• 43:43
  to
• 43:43
  be
• 43:43
  a
• 43:43
  one
• 43:43
  off
• 43:44
  initially.
• 43:45
  And
• 43:45
  so
• 43:45
  now
• 43:46
  she's
• 43:46
  in
• 43:46
  her
• 43:46
  development.
• 43:47
  She's
• 43:48
  Almost
• 43:48
  finished.
• 43:49
  Almost
• 43:49
  finished.
• 43:50
  Actually
• 43:50
  have
• 43:51
  two
• 43:51
  that
• 43:51
  I'm
• 43:51
  working
• 43:52
  on
• 43:52
  at
• 43:52
  the
• 43:52
  same
• 43:52
  time,
• 43:54
  if
• 43:54
  that
• 43:54
  makes
• 43:55
  sense.
• 43:55
  No,
• 43:56
  sometimes
• 43:56
  that's
• 43:57
  the
• 43:57
  way
• 43:57
  it
• 43:57
  flows.
• 43:57
  And
• 43:58
  so
• 43:58
  I'm
• 43:58
  working
• 43:58
  on
• 43:59
  two
• 43:59
  at
• 43:59
  the
• 43:59
  same
• 43:59
  time,
• 44:00
  and
• 44:00
  I
• 44:00
  just
• 44:00
  have
• 44:01
  to
• 44:01
  come
• 44:01
  to
• 44:01
  the
• 44:01
  conclusion
• 44:04
  which
• 44:04
  one
• 44:04
  I
• 44:04
  want
• 44:05
  to
• 44:05
  do
• 44:05
  first,
• 44:06
  which
• 44:06
  one
• 44:06
  I
• 44:06
  want
• 44:06
  to
• 44:06
  launch
• 44:07
  first.
• 44:07
  It's
• 44:08
  interesting
• 44:08
  because
• 44:08
  our
• 44:09
  second
• 44:09
  book,
• 44:10
  if
• 44:10
  you
• 44:10
  are,
• 44:11
  we
• 44:11
  call
• 44:11
  ours
• 44:12
  the
• 44:12
  Adventures
• 44:13
  of
• 44:13
  Caboose,
• 44:13
  the
• 44:14
  Rocky
• 44:14
  Mountain
• 44:14
  bear.
• 44:15
  With
• 44:16
  my
• 44:16
  five
• 44:16
  grandchildren,
• 44:17
  we've
• 44:17
  written
• 44:18
  38
• 44:19
  stories.
• 44:19
  And
• 44:20
  our
• 44:20
  second
• 44:20
  book
• 44:21
  is
• 44:21
  called
• 44:22
  Hijinks
• 44:23
  from
• 44:23
  the
• 44:23
  Big
• 44:23
  Head
• 44:24
  Folk
• 44:24
  Music
• 44:24
  Festival.
• 44:25
  And
• 44:26
  Caboose
• 44:27
  is
• 44:27
  inspired
• 44:28
  by
• 44:28
  my
• 44:28
  oldest
• 44:29
  granddaughter,
• 44:29
  Kira.
• 44:30
  And
• 44:30
  that's
• 44:30
  why
• 44:30
  we
• 44:31
  spell
• 44:31
  Caboose
• 44:32
  with
• 44:32
  a
• 44:32
  K.
• 44:33
  And
• 44:33
  then,
• 44:33
  okay,
• 44:34
  this
• 44:34
  beaver
• 44:35
  is
• 44:35
  Bailey
• 44:36
  the
• 44:36
  beaver,
• 44:36
  and
• 44:36
  Bailey
• 44:37
  is
• 44:37
  actually
• 44:37
  my
• 44:37
  middle
• 44:38
  granddaughter's
• 44:39
  real
• 44:39
  name.
• 44:40
  Yeah.
• 44:40
  So.
• 44:41
  Yeah.
• 44:42
  So
• 44:42
  a
• 44:42
  lot
• 44:42
  of
• 44:42
  fun.
• 44:42
  But
• 44:43
  you'll
• 44:43
  notice
• 44:43
  what
• 44:44
  we
• 44:44
  did
• 44:44
  is
• 44:44
  we
• 44:45
  have
• 44:45
  the
• 44:45
  Adventures
• 44:46
  of
• 44:46
  Caboose,
• 44:47
  the
• 44:47
  Rocky
• 44:47
  Mountain
• 44:47
  Bear
• 44:48
  banner
• 44:49
  on
• 44:50
  top
• 44:50
  of
• 44:50
  the
• 44:50
  book
• 44:50
  because
• 44:51
  we
• 44:51
  have
• 44:51
  turned
• 44:52
  it
• 44:52
  into
• 44:52
  a
• 44:52
  series.
• 44:53
  So
• 44:53
  that's
• 44:54
  part
• 44:54
  of
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  fun.
• 44:55
  Yeah,
• 44:55
  no,
• 44:55
  it's
• 44:56
  fun
• 44:56
  when
• 44:56
  you
• 44:56
  can
• 44:56
  put
• 44:56
  together
• 44:57
  a
• 44:57
  book
• 44:57
  series
• 44:58
  with
• 44:58
  such
• 44:59
  a
• 44:59
  great
• 44:59
  character
• 45:00
  like
• 45:00
  Ella.
• 45:01
  Thank
• 45:01
  you.
• 45:01
  Yeah.
• 45:02
  You're
• 45:02
  probably
• 45:03
  just
• 45:03
  having
• 45:03
  fun
• 45:04
  writing
• 45:04
  it.
• 45:05
  I
• 45:05
  am.
• 45:06
  I
• 45:06
  always
• 45:06
  have
• 45:06
  fun
• 45:07
  writing.
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  always.
• 45:08
  Because
• 45:09
  your
• 45:09
  mind
• 45:09
  takes
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  in
• 45:10
  so
• 45:10
  many
• 45:11
  different
• 45:11
  directions
• 45:12
  when
• 45:13
  you're
• 45:13
  writing.
• 45:14
  Absolutely.
• 45:14
  Absolutely.
• 45:16
  You
• 45:16
  talked
• 45:16
  about
• 45:17
  one
• 45:17
  of
• 45:18
  your
• 45:18
  granddaughters
• 45:19
  who
• 45:19
  is
• 45:19
  you
• 45:20
  said
• 45:20
  was
• 45:20
  in
• 45:20
  grade
• 45:20
  eight,
• 45:21
  and
• 45:22
  I've
• 45:22
  got
• 45:22
  a
• 45:22
  granddaughter
• 45:23
  in
• 45:23
  grade
• 45:23
  eight.
• 45:23
  But
• 45:24
  I'm
• 45:24
  curious,
• 45:26
  do
• 45:26
  you
• 45:26
  have
• 45:26
  other
• 45:26
  grandchildren
• 45:27
  and
• 45:27
  have
• 45:28
  they
• 45:28
  influenced
• 45:28
  your
• 45:29
  writing?
• 45:30
  Yes,
• 45:31
  I
• 45:31
  have
• 45:33
  11.
• 45:34
  11
• 45:35
  grandchildren.
• 45:37
  11.
• 45:38
  Wow.
• 45:38
  And
• 45:38
  so
• 45:39
  I
• 45:39
  had
• 45:39
  to
• 45:39
  think
• 45:39
  about
• 45:40
  it.
• 45:40
  And
• 45:40
  so
• 45:41
  they
• 45:41
  all
• 45:42
  have,
• 45:42
  in
• 45:42
  some
• 45:42
  way
• 45:43
  or
• 45:43
  another,
• 45:44
  just
• 45:45
  like
• 45:45
  you.
• 45:46
  It
• 45:46
  is
• 45:47
  my
• 45:47
  goal
• 45:48
  to
• 45:48
  include
• 45:48
  them
• 45:49
  in
• 45:49
  some
• 45:50
  parts
• 45:50
  of.
• 45:50
  Of
• 45:50
  a
• 45:51
  story
• 45:52
  along
• 45:52
  the
• 45:52
  way,
• 45:54
  whether
• 45:54
  I'm
• 45:54
  using
• 45:55
  their
• 45:55
  real
• 45:55
  name
• 45:56
  or
• 45:56
  fictional
• 45:57
  name.
• 45:58
  I
• 45:58
  have
• 45:58
  a
• 45:58
  set
• 45:59
  of
• 45:59
  older
• 46:00
  grandchildren
• 46:01
  and
• 46:01
  a
• 46:01
  set
• 46:01
  of
• 46:01
  younger
• 46:02
  grandchildren.
• 46:03
  So
• 46:03
  the
• 46:03
  younger
• 46:03
  grandchildren,
• 46:04
  they
• 46:04
  always
• 46:05
  want
• 46:05
  to
• 46:05
  be
• 46:05
  in
• 46:05
  the
• 46:05
  book.
• 46:06
  The
• 46:07
  older
• 46:07
  grandchildren,
• 46:08
  they
• 46:09
  don't
• 46:09
  care.
• 46:10
  I
• 46:11
  know
• 46:11
  exactly
• 46:11
  what
• 46:11
  you
• 46:11
  mean.
• 46:13
  They
• 46:13
  don't
• 46:14
  care,
• 46:15
  but
• 46:15
  they
• 46:15
  still
• 46:15
  encourage
• 46:16
  me.
• 46:17
  Now,
• 46:17
  you
• 46:17
  got
• 46:17
  me
• 46:18
  thinking,
• 46:18
  because
• 46:19
  one
• 46:19
  of
• 46:19
  the
• 46:19
  things
• 46:20
  that
• 46:20
  we
• 46:20
  did,
• 46:20
  and
• 46:20
  I'll
• 46:21
  tie
• 46:21
  this
• 46:21
  in,
• 46:22
  is
• 46:22
  that
• 46:23
  we
• 46:23
  developed
• 46:24
  a.
• 46:24
  A
• 46:24
  bookmark.
• 46:26
  And
• 46:26
  in
• 46:26
  the
• 46:26
  bookmark,
• 46:27
  we
• 46:27
  have
• 46:27
  a
• 46:28
  QR
• 46:28
  code.
• 46:28
  A
• 46:29
  QR
• 46:29
  code
• 46:29
  actually
• 46:31
  takes
• 46:31
  you
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  our
• 46:32
  first
• 46:33
  book.
• 46:33
  It's
• 46:33
  a
• 46:33
  free
• 46:34
  audiobook
• 46:35
  of
• 46:35
  our
• 46:35
  book.
• 46:36
  So
• 46:36
  it's
• 46:36
  like
• 46:37
  your
• 46:37
  read
• 46:37
  along,
• 46:38
  except
• 46:38
  it's
• 46:38
  a.
• 46:39
  You
• 46:39
  scan
• 46:39
  the
• 46:39
  QR
• 46:40
  code
• 46:40
  and
• 46:41
  my
• 46:41
  middle
• 46:41
  granddaughter,
• 46:42
  and
• 46:43
  she's
• 46:43
  got
• 46:43
  the
• 46:43
  perfect
• 46:44
  voice.
• 46:44
  For
• 46:44
  caboose.
• 46:45
  So
• 46:46
  she
• 46:46
  reads
• 46:46
  the
• 46:47
  story
• 46:48
  to
• 46:48
  you
• 46:49
  and.
• 46:50
  Yeah,
• 46:50
  so
• 46:51
  it's
• 46:51
  definitely
• 46:51
  a
• 46:51
  lot
• 46:51
  of
• 46:51
  fun.
• 46:52
  But
• 46:52
  I
• 46:52
  was
• 46:52
  thinking,
• 46:53
  with
• 46:53
  11
• 46:53
  grandchildren,
• 46:54
  boy,
• 46:55
  you
• 46:55
  could
• 46:55
  probably
• 46:55
  expand
• 46:56
  your
• 46:56
  read
• 46:57
  along
• 46:57
  if
• 46:58
  some
• 46:58
  of
• 46:58
  them
• 46:58
  were
• 46:58
  interested.
• 47:00
  I've
• 47:01
  never
• 47:01
  thought
• 47:01
  about
• 47:01
  accident.
• 47:02
  I
• 47:02
  guess
• 47:02
  that
• 47:03
  should
• 47:03
  be
• 47:03
  a
• 47:03
  topic
• 47:04
  of
• 47:04
  Thanksgiving
• 47:04
  is
• 47:05
  coming,
• 47:05
  so
• 47:06
  maybe
• 47:06
  that
• 47:06
  should
• 47:07
  be
• 47:07
  a
• 47:07
  topic
• 47:07
  of
• 47:07
  discussion.
• 47:08
  Absolutely.
• 47:10
  Absolutely.
• 47:11
  They
• 47:12
  don't
• 47:12
  want
• 47:12
  to
• 47:12
  be
• 47:12
  a
• 47:12
  character.
• 47:13
  Maybe
• 47:13
  they'll
• 47:14
  do
• 47:14
  a
• 47:14
  read
• 47:14
  along.
• 47:15
  That
• 47:15
  would
• 47:15
  be
• 47:15
  so
• 47:15
  much
• 47:16
  fun.
• 47:17
  Yeah,
• 47:17
  I
• 47:17
  could
• 47:17
  think
• 47:18
  of
• 47:18
  one
• 47:18
  that
• 47:18
  would
• 47:19
  do
• 47:19
  it.
• 47:19
  The
• 47:19
  rest
• 47:19
  of
• 47:20
  them
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  don't
• 47:20
  know.
• 47:22
  With
• 47:23
  your
• 47:24
  children's
• 47:24
  book
• 47:25
  authorship
• 47:25
  being
• 47:26
  starting
• 47:26
  in
• 47:27
  2018
• 47:28
  and
• 47:28
  still
• 47:29
  thriving,
• 47:29
  and
• 47:30
  now
• 47:30
  you're
• 47:30
  going
• 47:30
  to
• 47:30
  launch
• 47:31
  at
• 47:31
  least
• 47:31
  two
• 47:32
  more
• 47:32
  books
• 47:32
  in
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  series
• 47:32
  of
• 47:33
  Ella,
• 47:35
  I'd
• 47:35
  like
• 47:35
  to
• 47:35
  know
• 47:36
  your
• 47:36
  perception
• 47:37
  of
• 47:38
  success
• 47:38
  when
• 47:38
  you
• 47:38
  first
• 47:39
  started
• 47:40
  and
• 47:40
  what
• 47:40
  success
• 47:40
  is
• 47:41
  looking
• 47:41
  like
• 47:41
  for
• 47:42
  you
• 47:42
  now.
• 47:42
  So
• 47:43
  when
• 47:43
  you
• 47:43
  first
• 47:43
  became
• 47:44
  a
• 47:44
  children's
• 47:44
  book
• 47:45
  author,
• 47:45
  you
• 47:46
  wrote
• 47:46
  your
• 47:46
  first
• 47:46
  book,
• 47:47
  then
• 47:47
  you
• 47:47
  wrote
• 47:47
  A
• 47:48
  Home
• 47:48
  for
• 47:48
  Sally.
• 47:49
  What
• 47:50
  did
• 47:50
  you
• 47:50
  envision
• 47:51
  being
• 47:51
  a
• 47:52
  children's
• 47:52
  book
• 47:53
  author
• 47:53
  and
• 47:54
  the
• 47:54
  success?
• 47:54
  What
• 47:55
  did
• 47:55
  it
• 47:55
  look
• 47:55
  like
• 47:56
  to
• 47:56
  you,
• 47:56
  if
• 47:57
  you
• 47:57
  can
• 47:57
  Remember
• 47:57
  back
• 47:58
  to
• 47:58
  2018
• 47:59
  and
• 47:59
  what
• 48:00
  is
• 48:00
  it
• 48:00
  looking
• 48:00
  like
• 48:00
  to
• 48:01
  you
• 48:01
  now?
• 48:02
  Okay,
• 48:03
  so
• 48:03
  if
• 48:03
  I
• 48:03
  think
• 48:03
  back
• 48:03
  to
• 48:05
  2018,
• 48:06
  I
• 48:06
  guess
• 48:06
  I
• 48:06
  would
• 48:06
  think
• 48:07
  about.
• 48:07
  I'm
• 48:07
  just
• 48:07
  trying
• 48:08
  to
• 48:08
  get
• 48:08
  my
• 48:08
  footing.
• 48:09
  This
• 48:10
  is
• 48:10
  totally
• 48:10
  new.
• 48:11
  I
• 48:11
  don't
• 48:11
  know
• 48:11
  anything
• 48:12
  about
• 48:12
  this.
• 48:13
  I
• 48:13
  was
• 48:13
  scared.
• 48:15
  I
• 48:15
  was
• 48:15
  intimidated
• 48:16
  to
• 48:16
  tell
• 48:17
  anyone
• 48:17
  that
• 48:17
  I
• 48:18
  was
• 48:18
  an
• 48:18
  author.
• 48:18
  I
• 48:19
  would
• 48:19
  say
• 48:19
  I
• 48:19
  had
• 48:19
  a
• 48:19
  lack
• 48:20
  of
• 48:20
  confidence,
• 48:21
  not
• 48:21
  necessarily
• 48:22
  in
• 48:22
  writing,
• 48:23
  but
• 48:23
  in
• 48:23
  myself.
• 48:24
  Okay,
• 48:24
  I'm
• 48:25
  gonna
• 48:25
  save
• 48:25
  myself.
• 48:26
  Because
• 48:27
  I
• 48:27
  was
• 48:27
  going
• 48:27
  for
• 48:28
  one
• 48:28
  thing
• 48:29
  that
• 48:29
  I
• 48:29
  knew,
• 48:29
  which
• 48:30
  was
• 48:30
  teaching
• 48:30
  in
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  classroom.
• 48:31
  I
• 48:32
  was
• 48:32
  comfortable
• 48:32
  with
• 48:32
  that.
• 48:33
  And
• 48:33
  then
• 48:33
  I'm
• 48:34
  going
• 48:34
  into
• 48:34
  another
• 48:35
  area
• 48:35
  where
• 48:36
  I
• 48:36
  don't
• 48:36
  know
• 48:36
  anything
• 48:37
  about.
• 48:39
  That
• 48:39
  brings
• 48:39
  me
• 48:40
  to
• 48:40
  today
• 48:42
  where
• 48:43
  I
• 48:43
  am
• 48:43
  more
• 48:43
  confident.
• 48:44
  I'm
• 48:44
  not
• 48:44
  intimidated
• 48:45
  to
• 48:45
  say
• 48:46
  that
• 48:46
  I'm
• 48:46
  a
• 48:47
  children's
• 48:47
  author.
• 48:48
  I
• 48:48
  like
• 48:49
  my
• 48:49
  craft.
• 48:50
  I
• 48:50
  enjoy
• 48:51
  my
• 48:51
  craft.
• 48:52
  I'm
• 48:52
  not
• 48:52
  fearful
• 48:53
  to
• 48:53
  step
• 48:54
  out
• 48:54
  and
• 48:55
  say,
• 48:56
  these
• 48:57
  are
• 48:57
  my
• 48:57
  books
• 48:58
  or
• 48:58
  something
• 48:58
  like
• 48:59
  that.
• 48:59
  I'm
• 48:59
  not
• 49:00
  fearful
• 49:00
  in
• 49:00
  that
• 49:01
  anymore.
• 49:01
  I'm
• 49:02
  not
• 49:02
  fearful
• 49:04
  in
• 49:04
  a
• 49:04
  no,
• 49:05
  because
• 49:06
  although
• 49:07
  I
• 49:07
  may
• 49:07
  get
• 49:07
  a
• 49:07
  no,
• 49:08
  there
• 49:09
  is
• 49:09
  always
• 49:09
  a
• 49:09
  yes.
• 49:10
  And
• 49:10
  that's
• 49:10
  how
• 49:10
  I
• 49:10
  feel
• 49:11
  about
• 49:11
  it
• 49:11
  now.
• 49:11
  There
• 49:12
  is
• 49:12
  always
• 49:12
  a
• 49:13
  yes
• 49:14
  somewhere.
• 49:15
  And
• 49:15
  then
• 49:16
  just
• 49:16
  looking
• 49:16
  at
• 49:16
  my
• 49:17
  goals
• 49:17
  that
• 49:18
  I
• 49:18
  set
• 49:18
  for
• 49:18
  myself,
• 49:20
  many
• 49:20
  of
• 49:21
  those
• 49:21
  goals
• 49:21
  have
• 49:22
  been
• 49:22
  accomplished.
• 49:24
  Not
• 49:24
  all
• 49:24
  of
• 49:25
  them,
• 49:25
  but
• 49:26
  many
• 49:26
  of
• 49:26
  them.
• 49:27
  And
• 49:28
  that
• 49:28
  makes
• 49:28
  me
• 49:29
  proud
• 49:29
  of
• 49:29
  me
• 49:30
  because
• 49:31
  I
• 49:31
  really
• 49:31
  did
• 49:32
  this.
• 49:33
  Should
• 49:33
  be
• 49:33
  proud.
• 49:35
  Yeah.
• 49:36
  And
• 49:36
  so
• 49:37
  that's
• 49:38
  part
• 49:38
  of
• 49:38
  you're
• 49:38
  having
• 49:39
  me
• 49:39
  to
• 49:39
  look
• 49:39
  back
• 49:39
  and
• 49:40
  I'm
• 49:40
  like,
• 49:40
  wow.
• 49:42
  I'm
• 49:42
  thinking
• 49:42
  about
• 49:43
  it.
• 49:43
  Wow.
• 49:44
  In
• 49:44
  the
• 49:45
  grand
• 49:45
  scheme
• 49:45
  of
• 49:45
  things,
• 49:46
  in
• 49:46
  the
• 49:46
  role
• 49:46
  of
• 49:47
  writing.
• 49:47
  And
• 49:47
  I.
• 49:48
  And
• 49:48
  I
• 49:48
  could
• 49:48
  see
• 49:48
  the
• 49:49
  expression
• 49:49
  on
• 49:49
  your
• 49:50
  face
• 49:50
  and
• 49:50
  the
• 49:50
  excitement
• 49:51
  and
• 49:51
  thinking
• 49:52
  back
• 49:52
  to
• 49:52
  2018,
• 49:53
  and
• 49:53
  now
• 49:54
  you're
• 49:54
  a
• 49:54
  children's
• 49:55
  book
• 49:55
  author,
• 49:56
  you've
• 49:56
  got
• 49:56
  multiple
• 49:57
  titles,
• 49:57
  you're
• 49:58
  working
• 49:58
  on
• 49:58
  a
• 49:58
  couple
• 49:58
  of
• 49:59
  more
• 49:59
  titles.
• 50:00
  How
• 50:00
  is
• 50:00
  this
• 50:01
  working
• 50:01
  now
• 50:01
  in
• 50:01
  the
• 50:02
  grand
• 50:02
  scheme
• 50:02
  of
• 50:03
  your
• 50:03
  life?
• 50:03
  Think
• 50:04
  back
• 50:04
  to
• 50:04
  2018
• 50:05
  and
• 50:05
  now.
• 50:06
  What's
• 50:06
  the
• 50:06
  biggest
• 50:07
  change
• 50:08
  I'm
• 50:08
  going
• 50:09
  to.
• 50:09
  Say
• 50:09
  on
• 50:09
  the
• 50:09
  personal
• 50:10
  side?
• 50:10
  There's
• 50:10
  been
• 50:10
  some
• 50:11
  things
• 50:11
  that's
• 50:11
  happened
• 50:12
  personally
• 50:13
  that
• 50:13
  I
• 50:14
  did
• 50:14
  not
• 50:14
  know
• 50:15
  that
• 50:15
  were
• 50:15
  going
• 50:15
  to
• 50:16
  happen.
• 50:17
  And
• 50:17
  so
• 50:18
  it
• 50:18
  caused
• 50:19
  me,
• 50:19
  at
• 50:19
  some
• 50:20
  point,
• 50:20
  I
• 50:20
  had
• 50:20
  to
• 50:20
  step
• 50:20
  back
• 50:21
  from
• 50:21
  my
• 50:21
  writing
• 50:22
  because
• 50:22
  I
• 50:22
  had
• 50:22
  to
• 50:23
  take
• 50:23
  care
• 50:23
  of
• 50:23
  those
• 50:23
  particular
• 50:24
  things.
• 50:25
  Right.
• 50:25
  And
• 50:26
  I
• 50:26
  thought
• 50:26
  about,
• 50:27
  am
• 50:27
  I
• 50:27
  ever
• 50:28
  going
• 50:28
  to
• 50:28
  be
• 50:28
  able
• 50:29
  to
• 50:29
  go
• 50:29
  back
• 50:30
  to
• 50:31
  writing?
• 50:32
  And
• 50:32
  so
• 50:32
  I
• 50:33
  got
• 50:33
  a
• 50:33
  little
• 50:33
  discouraged,
• 50:35
  but
• 50:35
  I
• 50:35
  said,
• 50:35
  okay,
• 50:36
  let
• 50:36
  me
• 50:37
  just
• 50:37
  go
• 50:37
  back.
• 50:38
  Let
• 50:38
  me
• 50:38
  read
• 50:38
  and
• 50:39
  let
• 50:39
  me
• 50:39
  go
• 50:39
  back
• 50:39
  to
• 50:40
  writing.
• 50:41
  And
• 50:41
  throughout
• 50:42
  the
• 50:42
  years,
• 50:43
  I
• 50:43
  believe
• 50:43
  in
• 50:44
  anybody's
• 50:44
  life,
• 50:45
  there
• 50:45
  are
• 50:46
  things
• 50:46
  that
• 50:46
  occur
• 50:47
  that
• 50:47
  are
• 50:47
  unexpected.
• 50:49
  And
• 50:50
  you
• 50:50
  have
• 50:51
  to
• 50:51
  decide,
• 50:52
  am
• 50:52
  I
• 50:52
  going
• 50:52
  to
• 50:52
  just
• 50:53
  stop
• 50:53
  here
• 50:54
  and
• 50:54
  we're
• 50:54
  done
• 50:54
  with
• 50:55
  this
• 50:55
  for
• 50:55
  life,
• 50:56
  or
• 50:56
  am
• 50:57
  I
• 50:57
  going
• 50:57
  to
• 50:57
  just
• 50:57
  take
• 50:58
  a
• 50:58
  break,
• 51:00
  do
• 51:00
  what
• 51:00
  I
• 51:00
  need
• 51:00
  to
• 51:01
  do,
• 51:02
  and
• 51:02
  then
• 51:02
  just
• 51:03
  pick
• 51:03
  back
• 51:03
  up?
• 51:04
  And
• 51:04
  if
• 51:04
  I
• 51:04
  need
• 51:05
  to
• 51:05
  start
• 51:05
  all
• 51:05
  over
• 51:05
  again,
• 51:06
  I
• 51:06
  start
• 51:06
  all
• 51:07
  over
• 51:07
  again.
• 51:07
  Or
• 51:07
  start
• 51:08
  at
• 51:08
  the
• 51:08
  point
• 51:08
  of
• 51:09
  where
• 51:11
  I
• 51:11
  finished
• 51:11
  off
• 51:12
  at.
• 51:12
  And
• 51:12
  so
• 51:12
  I
• 51:13
  just
• 51:13
  picked
• 51:13
  up
• 51:13
  where
• 51:14
  I
• 51:14
  finished
• 51:15
  off.
• 51:15
  Because
• 51:16
  Ella
• 51:17
  was
• 51:17
  a
• 51:17
  reflection
• 51:18
  of
• 51:18
  part
• 51:18
  of
• 51:19
  you.
• 51:20
  Is
• 51:20
  that
• 51:20
  why
• 51:20
  you
• 51:20
  came
• 51:21
  back
• 51:21
  to
• 51:21
  Ella?
• 51:22
  I
• 51:22
  think
• 51:22
  that's
• 51:23
  the
• 51:23
  biggest
• 51:23
  thing
• 51:23
  of
• 51:23
  why
• 51:24
  I
• 51:24
  came
• 51:24
  back
• 51:24
  to
• 51:24
  Ella,
• 51:25
  because
• 51:25
  she
• 51:25
  brought
• 51:26
  me
• 51:26
  back
• 51:26
  to
• 51:26
  a
• 51:27
  place.
• 51:27
  She
• 51:27
  brought
• 51:27
  me
• 51:28
  back
• 51:28
  to
• 51:28
  my
• 51:29
  high
• 51:29
  school
• 51:29
  days,
• 51:30
  say
• 51:30
  she.
• 51:30
  But
• 51:31
  I
• 51:31
  remember
• 51:32
  I
• 51:32
  was
• 51:32
  taking
• 51:33
  modern
• 51:34
  dance,
• 51:34
  and
• 51:34
  the
• 51:34
  teacher
• 51:35
  told
• 51:35
  me,
• 51:35
  you
• 51:36
  cannot
• 51:36
  dance.
• 51:37
  They
• 51:38
  passed
• 51:38
  me.
• 51:40
  They
• 51:40
  hit
• 51:40
  me
• 51:40
  up
• 51:41
  passing,
• 51:41
  crying.
• 51:42
  But
• 51:43
  they
• 51:43
  were
• 51:43
  like,
• 51:43
  you
• 51:44
  cannot
• 51:44
  do
• 51:45
  this.
• 51:46
  And
• 51:46
  someone
• 51:47
  taking
• 51:47
  me
• 51:47
  back
• 51:48
  to
• 51:48
  that
• 51:50
  in
• 51:51
  high
• 51:51
  school,
• 51:51
  you
• 51:52
  feel
• 51:52
  like,
• 51:52
  oh,
• 51:53
  really?
• 51:55
  I
• 51:55
  give
• 51:55
  you
• 51:56
  a
• 51:56
  lot
• 51:56
  of
• 51:56
  credit.
• 51:56
  It's.
• 51:57
  And
• 51:57
  Ella
• 51:58
  is
• 51:58
  such
• 51:58
  a
• 51:58
  cute
• 51:58
  character
• 51:59
  to
• 51:59
  have
• 52:00
  you
• 52:00
  develop
• 52:00
  her
• 52:01
  into
• 52:02
  a
• 52:02
  couple
• 52:03
  other
• 52:03
  books.
• 52:03
  It's
• 52:04
  fun.
• 52:04
  It
• 52:04
  is.
• 52:05
  It's
• 52:05
  exciting.
• 52:06
  It's
• 52:06
  exciting.
• 52:07
  I
• 52:07
  like
• 52:07
  the
• 52:07
  way
• 52:07
  she's
• 52:08
  coming
• 52:09
  together.
• 52:09
  I
• 52:10
  like
• 52:10
  the
• 52:11
  other
• 52:11
  characters
• 52:11
  that
• 52:12
  she's
• 52:12
  incorporating
• 52:13
  with
• 52:13
  her.
• 52:14
  So
• 52:14
  I'm
• 52:15
  excited.
• 52:15
  I'm
• 52:15
  excited
• 52:16
  about
• 52:16
  what
• 52:16
  she's
• 52:17
  gonna
• 52:17
  do.
• 52:17
  Good
• 52:18
  for
• 52:18
  you.
• 52:18
  Because
• 52:18
  even,
• 52:19
  like,
• 52:19
  for
• 52:19
  us
• 52:19
  with
• 52:20
  Caboose
• 52:21
  is.
• 52:22
  Caboose
• 52:23
  is
• 52:23
  our
• 52:23
  first
• 52:23
  character
• 52:24
  and
• 52:25
  what
• 52:25
  our
• 52:25
  whole
• 52:25
  book
• 52:25
  series
• 52:26
  is
• 52:26
  all
• 52:26
  about.
• 52:26
  But
• 52:27
  we
• 52:27
  introduce
• 52:28
  characters,
• 52:29
  family
• 52:30
  and
• 52:30
  friends
• 52:31
  into
• 52:31
  each
• 52:32
  store.
• 52:32
  I
• 52:32
  was
• 52:33
  talking
• 52:33
  to
• 52:33
  an
• 52:33
  author
• 52:33
  from
• 52:34
  England,
• 52:34
  and
• 52:34
  she
• 52:35
  wrote
• 52:35
  a
• 52:35
  book
• 52:35
  series
• 52:36
  called
• 52:36
  Shirley,
• 52:37
  Merle
• 52:38
  and.
• 52:39
  And
• 52:40
  Shirley
• 52:40
  was
• 52:40
  a
• 52:41
  young
• 52:41
  girl,
• 52:41
  maybe
• 52:42
  about
• 52:43
  nine
• 52:43
  or
• 52:43
  10.
• 52:44
  And
• 52:44
  I
• 52:45
  said
• 52:45
  to
• 52:45
  her,
• 52:45
  is
• 52:45
  Shirley
• 52:46
  going
• 52:46
  to
• 52:46
  age
• 52:47
  the
• 52:47
  next
• 52:47
  time
• 52:48
  you
• 52:48
  write
• 52:48
  a
• 52:48
  book?
• 52:48
  And
• 52:49
  she
• 52:49
  said,
• 52:50
  no,
• 52:51
  you
• 52:51
  know
• 52:51
  what?
• 52:52
  Shirley's
• 52:52
  going
• 52:52
  to
• 52:53
  say
• 52:53
  the
• 52:53
  same
• 52:53
  age.
• 52:54
  And
• 52:54
  I
• 52:54
  said,
• 52:54
  it's
• 52:55
  interesting
• 52:55
  because
• 52:55
  we
• 52:55
  did
• 52:56
  the
• 52:56
  same
• 52:56
  thing
• 52:56
  with
• 52:56
  our
• 52:57
  second
• 52:57
  book.
• 52:58
  Caboose
• 52:59
  was
• 52:59
  a
• 52:59
  little
• 52:59
  bit
• 53:00
  older
• 53:00
  than
• 53:01
  her
• 53:01
  cousins,
• 53:02
  but
• 53:02
  at
• 53:03
  the
• 53:03
  end
• 53:03
  of
• 53:03
  the
• 53:03
  day,
• 53:04
  they'll
• 53:05
  probably
• 53:05
  all
• 53:05
  stay
• 53:06
  around
• 53:06
  the
• 53:06
  same
• 53:06
  age.
• 53:08
  You
• 53:08
  know
• 53:08
  what?
• 53:08
  Someone
• 53:09
  asked
• 53:09
  me
• 53:09
  that
• 53:09
  question
• 53:10
  recently,
• 53:11
  and
• 53:11
  they
• 53:11
  said,
• 53:11
  how
• 53:12
  old
• 53:12
  is
• 53:12
  the
• 53:12
  character?
• 53:12
  I
• 53:13
  say,
• 53:13
  how
• 53:13
  other?
• 53:13
  Oh,
• 53:13
  you
• 53:14
  want
• 53:14
  it
• 53:14
  to
• 53:14
  be.
• 53:15
  So
• 53:16
  I
• 53:16
  have
• 53:16
  an
• 53:16
  image
• 53:17
  in
• 53:17
  my
• 53:17
  mind.
• 53:18
  But
• 53:19
  you
• 53:19
  may
• 53:19
  feel
• 53:20
  they
• 53:21
  may
• 53:21
  be
• 53:21
  older
• 53:22
  or
• 53:22
  younger.
• 53:23
  And
• 53:23
  you
• 53:23
  probably
• 53:23
  heard
• 53:24
  that
• 53:24
  from
• 53:24
  me.
• 53:24
  When
• 53:25
  I
• 53:25
  said
• 53:25
  to
• 53:25
  you,
• 53:26
  was
• 53:26
  she
• 53:27
  six
• 53:27
  or
• 53:27
  seven?
• 53:28
  You
• 53:28
  said,
• 53:28
  maybe
• 53:28
  seven,
• 53:29
  eight.
• 53:29
  So
• 53:29
  I
• 53:29
  wasn't
• 53:30
  very
• 53:30
  far
• 53:30
  off.
• 53:31
  No.
• 53:32
  So
• 53:32
  it
• 53:33
  just
• 53:33
  depends
• 53:33
  on
• 53:34
  you
• 53:34
  when
• 53:34
  you're
• 53:34
  reading
• 53:35
  it.
• 53:35
  As
• 53:35
  a
• 53:35
  children's
• 53:36
  author,
• 53:36
  you
• 53:36
  have
• 53:37
  a
• 53:37
  certain
• 53:38
  age
• 53:38
  in
• 53:38
  mind,
• 53:39
  but
• 53:40
  someone
• 53:40
  who's
• 53:40
  reading
• 53:41
  it
• 53:41
  may
• 53:41
  feel
• 53:42
  as
• 53:42
  if.
• 53:42
  No,
• 53:43
  it
• 53:43
  could
• 53:43
  be
• 53:44
  maybe
• 53:44
  even
• 53:45
  nine
• 53:45
  or
• 53:45
  ten.
• 53:46
  You
• 53:46
  know,
• 53:46
  Stanetta,
• 53:46
  you
• 53:47
  got
• 53:47
  me
• 53:47
  thinking
• 53:47
  about
• 53:47
  when
• 53:48
  we
• 53:48
  first
• 53:48
  enrolled
• 53:49
  my
• 53:49
  daughter
• 53:50
  in
• 53:51
  dance
• 53:51
  lessons.
• 53:52
  I
• 53:52
  think
• 53:53
  she
• 53:53
  was
• 53:53
  five
• 53:53
  or
• 53:54
  six.
• 53:54
  It
• 53:54
  was
• 53:55
  tap
• 53:55
  and
• 53:55
  jazz.
• 53:56
  But
• 53:56
  still,
• 53:57
  I
• 53:57
  think
• 53:58
  back
• 53:58
  to
• 53:58
  those
• 53:58
  days.
• 53:59
  Actually,
• 53:59
  your
• 54:00
  book
• 54:00
  was
• 54:00
  a
• 54:00
  reflection
• 54:01
  on
• 54:01
  that
• 54:01
  for
• 54:02
  me,
• 54:02
  because
• 54:03
  hadn't
• 54:03
  lived
• 54:04
  that
• 54:04
  memory
• 54:04
  for
• 54:05
  a
• 54:05
  long
• 54:05
  time.
• 54:07
  So
• 54:07
  it
• 54:07
  was
• 54:07
  fun
• 54:07
  to
• 54:08
  actually
• 54:08
  relive
• 54:09
  that
• 54:09
  memory,
• 54:10
  even
• 54:10
  though
• 54:10
  for
• 54:10
  you
• 54:11
  and
• 54:12
  Ella
• 54:12
  is
• 54:12
  ballet.
• 54:14
  But
• 54:14
  all
• 54:14
  of
• 54:15
  us
• 54:15
  as
• 54:15
  parents
• 54:15
  have
• 54:16
  put
• 54:16
  our
• 54:16
  children
• 54:17
  into,
• 54:18
  whether
• 54:18
  it's
• 54:18
  ballet
• 54:19
  or
• 54:19
  jazz
• 54:19
  and
• 54:20
  tap
• 54:20
  or
• 54:21
  you
• 54:21
  talked
• 54:21
  about
• 54:21
  modern,
• 54:23
  for
• 54:24
  sure.
• 54:24
  It's
• 54:24
  quite
• 54:25
  interesting.
• 54:26
  I
• 54:26
  appreciate
• 54:27
  that,
• 54:28
  and
• 54:28
  I'm
• 54:28
  glad
• 54:29
  that
• 54:29
  you
• 54:29
  were
• 54:29
  able
• 54:30
  to
• 54:30
  go
• 54:30
  back
• 54:31
  to
• 54:31
  that
• 54:31
  moment
• 54:32
  in
• 54:32
  time
• 54:33
  to
• 54:33
  think
• 54:34
  about
• 54:34
  that.
• 54:34
  So
• 54:34
  I'm
• 54:35
  glad
• 54:35
  Ella's
• 54:35
  story
• 54:36
  brought
• 54:36
  you
• 54:36
  back
• 54:36
  to
• 54:37
  that
• 54:37
  time.
• 54:37
  That's
• 54:38
  an
• 54:38
  important
• 54:38
  thing
• 54:39
  for
• 54:40
  anybody
• 54:41
  who's
• 54:41
  an
• 54:41
  aspiring
• 54:42
  children's
• 54:42
  book
• 54:42
  author
• 54:43
  or
• 54:43
  a
• 54:43
  reader
• 54:44
  and
• 54:44
  is
• 54:44
  that's
• 54:45
  what
• 54:45
  children's
• 54:46
  books
• 54:46
  do,
• 54:46
  is
• 54:47
  they
• 54:47
  can
• 54:47
  transform,
• 54:50
  take
• 54:50
  you
• 54:50
  back
• 54:51
  in
• 54:51
  time
• 54:52
  to
• 54:52
  your
• 54:53
  childhood
• 54:54
  or
• 54:54
  your
• 54:54
  children's
• 54:55
  childhood
• 54:55
  or
• 54:55
  even
• 54:56
  your
• 54:56
  grandchildren's
• 54:57
  childhood.
• 54:57
  So
• 54:58
  it's
• 54:58
  fun
• 54:58
  when
• 54:59
  a
• 54:59
  book
• 54:59
  can
• 54:59
  do
• 54:59
  that
• 55:00
  for
• 55:00
  you,
• 55:00
  right?
• 55:01
  It
• 55:01
  is,
• 55:02
  because
• 55:02
  I
• 55:02
  have
• 55:02
  a
• 55:03
  few
• 55:03
  books
• 55:03
  on
• 55:03
  my
• 55:03
  shelves
• 55:04
  that
• 55:05
  have
• 55:05
  taken
• 55:05
  me
• 55:06
  back.
• 55:06
  They're
• 55:07
  old,
• 55:08
  but
• 55:08
  they
• 55:09
  have
• 55:09
  taken
• 55:09
  me
• 55:10
  back,
• 55:10
  and
• 55:10
  I
• 55:11
  still
• 55:11
  love
• 55:11
  them
• 55:11
  as
• 55:12
  if
• 55:12
  they
• 55:12
  were,
• 55:14
  if
• 55:14
  I
• 55:14
  got
• 55:15
  them,
• 55:15
  if
• 55:15
  I
• 55:15
  was
• 55:15
  5
• 55:15
  years
• 55:16
  old.
• 55:16
  Advice
• 55:17
  for
• 55:17
  aspiring
• 55:19
  authors.
• 55:19
  What
• 55:19
  kind
• 55:20
  of
• 55:20
  advice
• 55:20
  would
• 55:20
  you
• 55:21
  give
• 55:21
  someone
• 55:21
  who's
• 55:22
  listening
• 55:22
  to
• 55:22
  this
• 55:23
  podcast
• 55:23
  and
• 55:24
  saying,
• 55:24
  oh,
• 55:25
  man,
• 55:26
  I
• 55:26
  want
• 55:26
  to
• 55:26
  just
• 55:26
  be
• 55:27
  like
• 55:27
  Sonetta
• 55:27
  but
• 55:28
  how
• 55:28
  do
• 55:28
  I
• 55:28
  do
• 55:28
  that?
• 55:28
  How
• 55:29
  do
• 55:29
  I
• 55:29
  get
• 55:29
  started?
• 55:31
  Okay,
• 55:31
  so
• 55:32
  the
• 55:32
  advice
• 55:32
  that
• 55:32
  I
• 55:33
  always
• 55:33
  give
• 55:33
  people
• 55:34
  is
• 55:34
  just
• 55:35
  bark.
• 55:36
  Because
• 55:37
  I've
• 55:37
  heard
• 55:37
  through
• 55:38
  the
• 55:38
  years,
• 55:38
  I
• 55:38
  want
• 55:39
  to
• 55:39
  write
• 55:39
  a
• 55:39
  book.
• 55:39
  I
• 55:40
  want
• 55:40
  to
• 55:40
  write
• 55:40
  a
• 55:40
  book.
• 55:41
  I
• 55:41
  want
• 55:41
  to
• 55:41
  write
• 55:42
  a
• 55:42
  book.
• 55:43
  And
• 55:43
  I
• 55:43
  may
• 55:44
  see
• 55:44
  you
• 55:44
  five
• 55:44
  years
• 55:45
  later.
• 55:45
  And
• 55:45
  I'll
• 55:46
  say,
• 55:46
  have
• 55:46
  you
• 55:46
  written
• 55:47
  that
• 55:47
  book?
• 55:47
  And
• 55:47
  they'll
• 55:48
  be
• 55:48
  like,
• 55:48
  no.
• 55:49
  And
• 55:50
  so
• 55:51
  that's
• 55:51
  the
• 55:51
  one
• 55:52
  thing
• 55:52
  I
• 55:52
  always
• 55:52
  tell
• 55:53
  people,
• 55:53
  is
• 55:53
  just
• 55:53
  to
• 55:54
  start.
• 55:54
  Because
• 55:55
  if
• 55:55
  you
• 55:55
  don't
• 55:56
  start,
• 55:57
  you
• 55:57
  can't
• 55:58
  get
• 55:58
  an
• 55:58
  end.
• 56:00
  So,
• 56:01
  as
• 56:01
  if
• 56:02
  you're
• 56:02
  an
• 56:02
  aspiring
• 56:03
  author,
• 56:04
  whether
• 56:05
  you
• 56:05
  get
• 56:05
  a
• 56:05
  pen,
• 56:06
  a
• 56:06
  paper,
• 56:07
  a
• 56:07
  computer,
• 56:08
  or
• 56:08
  whatever,
• 56:09
  just
• 56:10
  write
• 56:10
  the
• 56:10
  first
• 56:10
  words
• 56:12
  and
• 56:12
  let
• 56:12
  those
• 56:12
  words,
• 56:13
  those
• 56:13
  first
• 56:14
  words
• 56:14
  will
• 56:15
  carry
• 56:15
  you
• 56:15
  to
• 56:16
  a
• 56:16
  place
• 56:16
  that
• 56:16
  you
• 56:16
  never
• 56:17
  thought
• 56:17
  you
• 56:17
  would
• 56:18
  arrive
• 56:18
  in.
• 56:19
  And
• 56:19
  as
• 56:19
  you
• 56:19
  continue
• 56:20
  to
• 56:20
  write
• 56:21
  and
• 56:21
  to
• 56:21
  write,
• 56:22
  I
• 56:22
  hear
• 56:23
  I
• 56:23
  don't
• 56:23
  have
• 56:23
  the
• 56:23
  time.
• 56:24
  You
• 56:24
  can
• 56:26
  and
• 56:26
  you're
• 56:26
  in
• 56:27
  the
• 56:27
  bathroom,
• 56:28
  right?
• 56:28
  Yes.
• 56:29
  Yes,
• 56:30
  absolutely.
• 56:30
  You're
• 56:31
  in
• 56:31
  the
• 56:31
  bathroom.
• 56:32
  Take
• 56:32
  a
• 56:33
  take
• 56:33
  pad
• 56:34
  and
• 56:35
  paper
• 56:35
  or
• 56:35
  whatever,
• 56:36
  take
• 56:37
  a
• 56:37
  recorder
• 56:37
  and
• 56:38
  just
• 56:38
  begin
• 56:38
  to
• 56:39
  write.
• 56:39
  Those
• 56:40
  stories
• 56:40
  are
• 56:41
  budding
• 56:41
  within
• 56:42
  you
• 56:42
  all
• 56:43
  the
• 56:43
  time.
• 56:44
  And
• 56:44
  that's
• 56:44
  great
• 56:45
  advice
• 56:45
  because
• 56:45
  I've
• 56:46
  talked
• 56:46
  to
• 56:46
  so
• 56:46
  many
• 56:47
  children's
• 56:47
  book
• 56:47
  authors
• 56:48
  who
• 56:48
  have
• 56:49
  woken
• 56:49
  up
• 56:49
  in
• 56:50
  the
• 56:50
  middle
• 56:50
  of
• 56:50
  the
• 56:50
  night
• 56:51
  and
• 56:51
  recorded
• 56:52
  a
• 56:52
  whole
• 56:52
  children's
• 56:53
  book.
• 56:53
  Or
• 56:54
  I've
• 56:54
  talked
• 56:54
  to
• 56:54
  mothers
• 56:55
  who
• 56:55
  are
• 56:55
  children's
• 56:56
  book
• 56:56
  authors
• 56:57
  who
• 56:57
  pulled.
• 56:57
  They
• 56:58
  dropped
• 56:58
  their
• 56:58
  kids
• 56:58
  off
• 56:58
  at
• 56:59
  school,
• 56:59
  then
• 56:59
  they
• 57:00
  pulled
• 57:00
  over
• 57:00
  at
• 57:00
  the
• 57:01
  side
• 57:01
  of
• 57:01
  the
• 57:01
  road
• 57:01
  and
• 57:02
  wrote
• 57:02
  a
• 57:02
  book
• 57:03
  because
• 57:03
  they
• 57:03
  were
• 57:04
  inspired.
• 57:05
  You're
• 57:05
  absolutely
• 57:06
  right.
• 57:06
  Just
• 57:06
  start
• 57:06
  writing.
• 57:08
  Just
• 57:08
  start.
• 57:09
  And.
• 57:09
  And
• 57:09
  after
• 57:10
  you
• 57:10
  start,
• 57:10
  you
• 57:11
  can
• 57:11
  see
• 57:11
  what's
• 57:12
  going
• 57:12
  on.
• 57:12
  And
• 57:13
  just
• 57:13
  because
• 57:13
  it
• 57:14
  doesn't
• 57:14
  come
• 57:14
  out
• 57:15
  the
• 57:15
  way
• 57:16
  you
• 57:16
  want
• 57:16
  it
• 57:16
  to
• 57:17
  the
• 57:17
  first
• 57:17
  time,
• 57:18
  just
• 57:18
  keep
• 57:18
  going
• 57:19
  back.
• 57:19
  Because
• 57:20
  as
• 57:20
  authors,
• 57:21
  we
• 57:21
  still
• 57:21
  have
• 57:22
  to
• 57:22
  keep
• 57:22
  going
• 57:22
  back.
• 57:24
  But
• 57:24
  at
• 57:24
  some
• 57:24
  point
• 57:24
  you
• 57:25
  do
• 57:25
  have
• 57:25
  to
• 57:25
  stop
• 57:26
  and
• 57:26
  say,
• 57:27
  but
• 57:27
  you
• 57:27
  still
• 57:28
  want
• 57:28
  to
• 57:28
  just
• 57:28
  go
• 57:29
  back.
• 57:29
  And
• 57:29
  one
• 57:30
  thing
• 57:30
  I
• 57:30
  recommend
• 57:31
  is
• 57:31
  don't
• 57:32
  do
• 57:32
  a
• 57:32
  whole
• 57:32
  lot
• 57:32
  of
• 57:32
  erasing
• 57:33
  when
• 57:33
  you're
• 57:33
  writing.
• 57:34
  Just
• 57:34
  write.
• 57:35
  If
• 57:35
  you
• 57:35
  want
• 57:36
  to
• 57:36
  edit
• 57:36
  and
• 57:37
  all
• 57:37
  that
• 57:37
  stuff
• 57:37
  later,
• 57:38
  that's
• 57:38
  fine.
• 57:38
  But
• 57:39
  just
• 57:39
  get
• 57:39
  the
• 57:39
  thoughts
• 57:40
  out.
• 57:40
  Get
• 57:41
  the
• 57:41
  thoughts
• 57:41
  from
• 57:41
  your
• 57:41
  head
• 57:42
  to
• 57:43
  the
• 57:43
  paper
• 57:43
  or
• 57:44
  computer
• 57:44
  or
• 57:44
  whatever
• 57:45
  you're
• 57:45
  going
• 57:45
  to
• 57:45
  do.
• 57:46
  Great
• 57:46
  advice.
• 57:47
  Just
• 57:47
  go
• 57:48
  from
• 57:48
  there.
• 57:49
  And
• 57:50
  don't
• 57:50
  let
• 57:50
  anyone
• 57:51
  discourage
• 57:52
  you
• 57:52
  from
• 57:53
  following
• 57:53
  your
• 57:54
  dreams.
• 57:54
  The
• 57:55
  second
• 57:55
  advice
• 57:55
  is,
• 57:57
  your
• 57:57
  book
• 57:59
  is
• 57:59
  yours.
• 57:59
  You
• 58:00
  cannot
• 58:00
  share
• 58:01
  your
• 58:01
  book
• 58:01
  with
• 58:01
  everybody.
• 58:02
  And
• 58:03
  that's
• 58:03
  the
• 58:03
  business
• 58:03
  side.
• 58:04
  You
• 58:04
  don't
• 58:05
  share
• 58:06
  your
• 58:06
  book
• 58:06
  with
• 58:07
  everybody.
• 58:07
  Because
• 58:08
  I
• 58:08
  won't
• 58:09
  take
• 58:09
  your
• 58:09
  product
• 58:11
  and
• 58:11
  redo
• 58:12
  it
• 58:12
  doesn't
• 58:13
  mean
• 58:13
  someone
• 58:13
  else
• 58:14
  won't
• 58:14
  take
• 58:15
  your
• 58:15
  product
• 58:15
  and
• 58:16
  redo
• 58:16
  it.
• 58:16
  And
• 58:17
  that's
• 58:17
  not
• 58:17
  being
• 58:17
  Negative.
• 58:18
  But
• 58:18
  I'm
• 58:18
  just
• 58:19
  saying,
• 58:19
  just
• 58:20
  right
• 58:21
  and
• 58:21
  then
• 58:22
  preserve
• 58:22
  it.
• 58:22
  I
• 58:23
  actually
• 58:23
  was
• 58:23
  talking
• 58:23
  to
• 58:24
  someone
• 58:24
  yesterday.
• 58:25
  They
• 58:25
  had
• 58:26
  written
• 58:27
  all
• 58:27
  of.
• 58:28
  I
• 58:28
  don't
• 58:29
  know,
• 58:29
  they
• 58:29
  said
• 58:29
  they've
• 58:30
  written
• 58:30
  a
• 58:30
  whole
• 58:31
  bunch
• 58:31
  of
• 58:31
  things
• 58:31
  and
• 58:32
  it
• 58:32
  actually
• 58:33
  gotten
• 58:33
  thrown
• 58:34
  out.
• 58:35
  So
• 58:35
  you
• 58:35
  need
• 58:36
  to
• 58:36
  have
• 58:36
  a
• 58:36
  place
• 58:36
  to
• 58:37
  preserve
• 58:37
  your
• 58:38
  writings.
• 58:39
  I
• 58:39
  don't
• 58:40
  know
• 58:40
  where.
• 58:40
  You
• 58:41
  have
• 58:41
  to
• 58:41
  find
• 58:41
  what
• 58:42
  is
• 58:42
  best
• 58:42
  for
• 58:43
  you
• 58:43
  to
• 58:44
  preserve
• 58:44
  it
• 58:44
  and
• 58:45
  preserve
• 58:45
  it
• 58:45
  in
• 58:45
  more
• 58:46
  than
• 58:46
  one
• 58:46
  place.
• 58:48
  If
• 58:48
  you're
• 58:48
  going
• 58:48
  to
• 58:48
  preserve
• 58:49
  it
• 58:49
  on
• 58:49
  the
• 58:49
  computer,
• 58:50
  make
• 58:50
  sure
• 58:50
  that
• 58:50
  it's
• 58:50
  backed
• 58:51
  up
• 58:51
  somewhere.
• 58:51
  Make
• 58:52
  sure
• 58:52
  you're
• 58:52
  emailing
• 58:53
  it,
• 58:54
  make
• 58:54
  sure
• 58:55
  it's
• 58:55
  just
• 58:56
  so
• 58:56
  many
• 58:56
  ways
• 58:57
  that
• 58:57
  you
• 58:57
  can
• 58:57
  preserve
• 58:58
  your
• 58:58
  writings
• 58:59
  nowadays.
• 59:00
  Make
• 59:00
  sure
• 59:00
  that
• 59:01
  you're
• 59:01
  preserving
• 59:01
  them
• 59:02
  so
• 59:03
  you
• 59:03
  won't
• 59:03
  have
• 59:03
  to
• 59:04
  start
• 59:04
  all
• 59:04
  over
• 59:04
  again.
• 59:05
  So
• 59:05
  this
• 59:05
  person
• 59:05
  is
• 59:06
  having.
• 59:06
  This
• 59:06
  is
• 59:07
  a
• 59:07
  friend.
• 59:07
  So
• 59:07
  she's
• 59:08
  having
• 59:09
  to
• 59:09
  start
• 59:10
  all
• 59:11
  over
• 59:11
  again.
• 59:12
  Wow.
• 59:13
  Yeah.
• 59:13
  You
• 59:13
  know
• 59:13
  what?
• 59:13
  It
• 59:13
  was
• 59:14
  actually
• 59:14
  my
• 59:14
  oldest
• 59:15
  granddaughter
• 59:16
  who
• 59:16
  said
• 59:16
  to
• 59:17
  me,
• 59:18
  she
• 59:18
  said,
• 59:19
  papa,
• 59:19
  can
• 59:19
  we
• 59:19
  go
• 59:20
  buy
• 59:20
  a
• 59:20
  journal?
• 59:21
  And
• 59:21
  there
• 59:21
  was
• 59:21
  a
• 59:21
  farmer's
• 59:22
  market
• 59:22
  and
• 59:23
  there
• 59:23
  was
• 59:24
  one
• 59:24
  booth
• 59:24
  that
• 59:24
  had
• 59:25
  journals.
• 59:26
  And
• 59:26
  so
• 59:27
  we
• 59:27
  went
• 59:27
  and
• 59:27
  bought.
• 59:27
  Ours
• 59:28
  is
• 59:28
  all
• 59:28
  about
• 59:28
  outdoor
• 59:29
  adventure.
• 59:29
  We
• 59:30
  went
• 59:30
  and
• 59:30
  bought
• 59:31
  a
• 59:31
  journal
• 59:31
  that
• 59:31
  had
• 59:32
  twigs
• 59:33
  and
• 59:33
  leaves
• 59:33
  on
• 59:34
  it
• 59:34
  and
• 59:34
  stuff
• 59:34
  like
• 59:34
  that.
• 59:35
  And
• 59:35
  like
• 59:36
  you
• 59:36
  said
• 59:36
  that
• 59:36
  we
• 59:37
  preserved
• 59:37
  all
• 59:37
  of
• 59:38
  our
• 59:38
  writings
• 59:39
  in
• 59:39
  that
• 59:39
  journal.
• 59:40
  And
• 59:40
  it's
• 59:40
  actually
• 59:40
  behind
• 59:41
  me.
• 59:41
  I
• 59:42
  still
• 59:42
  have
• 59:42
  it
• 59:42
  to
• 59:42
  this
• 59:43
  day.
• 59:44
  And
• 59:44
  so
• 59:44
  I
• 59:45
  have
• 59:45
  mines
• 59:45
  where
• 59:46
  I've
• 59:46
  written
• 59:47
  the
• 59:47
  notes
• 59:47
  and
• 59:47
  I've
• 59:48
  preserved
• 59:48
  them.
• 59:49
  And
• 59:49
  so
• 59:49
  it's
• 59:50
  important
• 59:50
  to
• 59:50
  preserve
• 59:51
  those
• 59:51
  things.
• 59:52
  Encouragement
• 59:53
  for
• 59:53
  readers.
• 59:54
  Tell
• 59:54
  us,
• 59:54
  why
• 59:55
  should
• 59:55
  children's
• 59:56
  book
• 59:56
  readers
• 59:57
  purchase
• 59:57
  your
• 59:57
  books?
• 59:59
  I'm
• 59:59
  going
• 1:00:00
  to
• 1:00:00
  speak
• 1:00:00
  to
• 1:00:00
  the
• 1:00:00
  adults.
• 1:00:01
  Okay.
• 1:00:02
  So
• 1:00:02
  you
• 1:00:02
  want
• 1:00:02
  to
• 1:00:03
  teach
• 1:00:03
  your
• 1:00:03
  children
• 1:00:04
  about
• 1:00:05
  believing
• 1:00:05
  in
• 1:00:05
  themselves
• 1:00:06
  and
• 1:00:07
  perseverance
• 1:00:09
  and
• 1:00:09
  then
• 1:00:09
  also
• 1:00:10
  about
• 1:00:10
  love
• 1:00:12
  and
• 1:00:13
  joy.
• 1:00:14
  If
• 1:00:14
  they
• 1:00:14
  are
• 1:00:16
  thinking
• 1:00:16
  about
• 1:00:18
  dancing
• 1:00:20
  or
• 1:00:20
  some
• 1:00:21
  other
• 1:00:21
  type
• 1:00:21
  of
• 1:00:22
  activity,
• 1:00:23
  a
• 1:00:23
  lick
• 1:00:24
  dance
• 1:00:24
  would
• 1:00:24
  be
• 1:00:24
  a
• 1:00:25
  great
• 1:00:25
  thing
• 1:00:26
  because
• 1:00:26
  they
• 1:00:26
  can
• 1:00:26
  see
• 1:00:27
  themselves.
• 1:00:27
  They
• 1:00:27
  can
• 1:00:28
  see
• 1:00:28
  where
• 1:00:29
  sometimes
• 1:00:29
  you
• 1:00:29
  may
• 1:00:30
  have
• 1:00:30
  a
• 1:00:30
  friend
• 1:00:31
  that
• 1:00:31
  says,
• 1:00:32
  you
• 1:00:32
  can't
• 1:00:33
  do
• 1:00:33
  that,
• 1:00:33
  or
• 1:00:33
  a
• 1:00:34
  group
• 1:00:34
  of
• 1:00:34
  friends
• 1:00:34
  that
• 1:00:34
  say
• 1:00:35
  they
• 1:00:35
  you
• 1:00:35
  can't
• 1:00:35
  do
• 1:00:36
  that.
• 1:00:36
  But
• 1:00:36
  then
• 1:00:37
  they
• 1:00:37
  have
• 1:00:37
  another
• 1:00:37
  group
• 1:00:38
  of
• 1:00:38
  friends
• 1:00:38
  that
• 1:00:38
  say,
• 1:00:39
  okay,
• 1:00:39
  I
• 1:00:40
  can.
• 1:00:42
  And
• 1:00:42
  although
• 1:00:42
  they
• 1:00:43
  may
• 1:00:43
  have
• 1:00:43
  some
• 1:00:43
  challenges
• 1:00:44
  along
• 1:00:45
  the
• 1:00:45
  way,
• 1:00:46
  still
• 1:00:47
  continue
• 1:00:47
  to
• 1:00:48
  press
• 1:00:49
  forward
• 1:00:49
  to
• 1:00:50
  accomplish
• 1:00:50
  your
• 1:00:50
  dreams.
• 1:00:51
  Because
• 1:00:51
  I
• 1:00:52
  believe
• 1:00:52
  that
• 1:00:53
  every
• 1:00:54
  child
• 1:00:54
  and
• 1:00:55
  every
• 1:00:55
  person
• 1:00:56
  has
• 1:00:57
  something
• 1:00:57
  within
• 1:00:57
  them
• 1:00:58
  that
• 1:00:59
  they've
• 1:00:59
  always
• 1:00:59
  dreamed
• 1:01:00
  about
• 1:01:01
  and
• 1:01:01
  that
• 1:01:02
  it
• 1:01:03
  has
• 1:01:03
  just
• 1:01:03
  fallen
• 1:01:04
  and
• 1:01:05
  they
• 1:01:05
  never
• 1:01:05
  think
• 1:01:05
  about
• 1:01:06
  accomplishing
• 1:01:07
  it.
• 1:01:07
  So
• 1:01:08
  I
• 1:01:08
  believe
• 1:01:08
  that
• 1:01:08
  every
• 1:01:09
  person
• 1:01:09
  is
• 1:01:09
  born
• 1:01:10
  with
• 1:01:10
  a
• 1:01:10
  gift
• 1:01:11
  to
• 1:01:11
  do
• 1:01:11
  something
• 1:01:13
  small
• 1:01:13
  or
• 1:01:13
  great.
• 1:01:15
  So
• 1:01:15
  I
• 1:01:15
  think
• 1:01:15
  Ella's
• 1:01:16
  story
• 1:01:16
  shows
• 1:01:17
  how
• 1:01:18
  you
• 1:01:18
  can.
• 1:01:18
  Although
• 1:01:19
  you
• 1:01:19
  are
• 1:01:19
  young,
• 1:01:20
  you
• 1:01:20
  can
• 1:01:20
  do
• 1:01:21
  great
• 1:01:21
  things.
• 1:01:22
  Terrific.
• 1:01:24
  Tell
• 1:01:24
  us
• 1:01:24
  where
• 1:01:25
  people
• 1:01:26
  can
• 1:01:26
  purchase
• 1:01:26
  your
• 1:01:26
  books.
• 1:01:27
  People
• 1:01:28
  can
• 1:01:28
  purchase
• 1:01:29
  my
• 1:01:29
  books
• 1:01:29
  on
• 1:01:30
  Amazon.com
• 1:01:31
  you
• 1:01:32
  can
• 1:01:32
  purchase
• 1:01:33
  my
• 1:01:33
  books@barnesandnoble.com
• 1:01:36
  and
• 1:01:36
  actually,
• 1:01:36
  since
• 1:01:37
  I'm
• 1:01:37
  in
• 1:01:37
  Chicago,
• 1:01:38
  there's
• 1:01:38
  a
• 1:01:38
  couple
• 1:01:38
  of
• 1:01:39
  Barnes
• 1:01:39
  and
• 1:01:39
  Nobles
• 1:01:40
  where
• 1:01:41
  Lords
• 1:01:41
  to
• 1:01:42
  Dance
• 1:01:42
  is
• 1:01:42
  on
• 1:01:42
  the
• 1:01:42
  shelves.
• 1:01:43
  And
• 1:01:44
  let's
• 1:01:44
  see.
• 1:01:44
  Well,
• 1:01:45
  you
• 1:01:45
  can
• 1:01:45
  purchase
• 1:01:46
  it
• 1:01:46
  on
• 1:01:46
  Walmart.com.
• 1:01:48
  And
• 1:01:49
  on
• 1:01:50
  your
• 1:01:50
  website,
• 1:01:50
  which
• 1:01:50
  we
• 1:01:51
  will
• 1:01:51
  put.
• 1:01:51
  And
• 1:01:51
  on
• 1:01:51
  my
• 1:01:51
  website?
• 1:01:52
  Yes.
• 1:01:52
  Yeah,
• 1:01:53
  and
• 1:01:53
  we'll
• 1:01:53
  put
• 1:01:53
  the
• 1:01:53
  links
• 1:01:54
  to
• 1:01:54
  your
• 1:01:54
  website
• 1:01:55
  for
• 1:01:55
  sure.
• 1:01:57
  If
• 1:01:57
  you
• 1:01:57
  go
• 1:01:57
  to
• 1:01:57
  my
• 1:01:58
  website,
• 1:01:58
  I
• 1:01:58
  list
• 1:01:59
  every
• 1:02:00
  book
• 1:02:00
  vendor
• 1:02:01
  where
• 1:02:01
  you
• 1:02:01
  can
• 1:02:01
  purchase
• 1:02:02
  it
• 1:02:02
  from
• 1:02:02
  and
• 1:02:02
  you
• 1:02:02
  just
• 1:02:03
  choose
• 1:02:03
  whichever
• 1:02:03
  one
• 1:02:04
  you
• 1:02:04
  want
• 1:02:04
  to.
• 1:02:05
  Yes,
• 1:02:05
  I
• 1:02:05
  noticed
• 1:02:06
  that.
• 1:02:06
  So
• 1:02:06
  that's
• 1:02:06
  terrific.
• 1:02:07
  Thank
• 1:02:07
  you.
• 1:02:08
  Final
• 1:02:08
  thoughts.
• 1:02:09
  Is
• 1:02:10
  there
• 1:02:10
  something,
• 1:02:10
  Stanetta,
• 1:02:11
  that
• 1:02:11
  you
• 1:02:12
  say?
• 1:02:12
  Oh,
• 1:02:12
  I
• 1:02:12
  wish
• 1:02:13
  Rick
• 1:02:13
  would
• 1:02:14
  have
• 1:02:14
  asked
• 1:02:14
  me
• 1:02:14
  that.
• 1:02:16
  Anything.
• 1:02:18
  No,
• 1:02:18
  I
• 1:02:19
  think
• 1:02:19
  I.
• 1:02:19
  I
• 1:02:20
  have.
• 1:02:20
  No,
• 1:02:21
  I
• 1:02:21
  have
• 1:02:21
  nothing
• 1:02:22
  that
• 1:02:22
  I
• 1:02:22
  could
• 1:02:22
  think
• 1:02:23
  of
• 1:02:23
  that
• 1:02:23
  you
• 1:02:24
  have
• 1:02:24
  not
• 1:02:24
  asked
• 1:02:25
  me.
• 1:02:25
  Oh,
• 1:02:26
  good.
• 1:02:27
  Stanetta,
• 1:02:28
  thank
• 1:02:29
  you
• 1:02:29
  so
• 1:02:29
  much
• 1:02:29
  for
• 1:02:29
  being
• 1:02:30
  a
• 1:02:30
  guest
• 1:02:30
  on
• 1:02:30
  the
• 1:02:31
  Adventures
• 1:02:31
  in
• 1:02:31
  the
• 1:02:31
  Heart
• 1:02:32
  of
• 1:02:32
  Children's
• 1:02:32
  Flip
• 1:02:32
  Authors
• 1:02:33
  podcast.
• 1:02:34
  Your
• 1:02:34
  generosity
• 1:02:35
  of
• 1:02:35
  time
• 1:02:36
  and
• 1:02:36
  your
• 1:02:36
  insights.
• 1:02:37
  Like
• 1:02:37
  I
• 1:02:37
  said
• 1:02:38
  to
• 1:02:38
  people,
• 1:02:38
  I'm
• 1:02:39
  always
• 1:02:39
  looking
• 1:02:39
  for,
• 1:02:40
  what
• 1:02:40
  can
• 1:02:41
  we
• 1:02:41
  share
• 1:02:41
  that's
• 1:02:42
  something
• 1:02:42
  new
• 1:02:42
  and
• 1:02:43
  fresh
• 1:02:43
  for
• 1:02:44
  our
• 1:02:44
  listeners.
• 1:02:44
  And
• 1:02:45
  you
• 1:02:45
  read
• 1:02:46
  aloud.
• 1:02:47
  What
• 1:02:47
  a
• 1:02:47
  great
• 1:02:48
  idea.
• 1:02:48
  And
• 1:02:49
  there's
• 1:02:50
  so
• 1:02:50
  much
• 1:02:50
  you
• 1:02:50
  can
• 1:02:50
  do
• 1:02:51
  with
• 1:02:51
  that.
• 1:02:51
  And
• 1:02:51
  thank
• 1:02:52
  you
• 1:02:52
  for
• 1:02:52
  sharing
• 1:02:52
  that
• 1:02:53
  and
• 1:02:53
  I'm
• 1:02:53
  glad
• 1:02:53
  we
• 1:02:54
  got
• 1:02:54
  to
• 1:02:54
  talk
• 1:02:54
  about
• 1:02:54
  that
• 1:02:55
  and
• 1:02:55
  expand
• 1:02:55
  on
• 1:02:56
  it.
• 1:02:56
  So
• 1:02:56
  that
• 1:02:56
  was
• 1:02:57
  really
• 1:02:57
  cool.
• 1:02:58
  We
• 1:02:58
  promised
• 1:02:59
  to
• 1:02:59
  provide
• 1:02:59
  our
• 1:03:00
  audience
• 1:03:00
  with
• 1:03:01
  Stanetta's
• 1:03:03
  social
• 1:03:03
  media
• 1:03:03
  links
• 1:03:04
  and
• 1:03:04
  her
• 1:03:04
  website.
• 1:03:05
  If
• 1:03:06
  you've
• 1:03:06
  enjoyed
• 1:03:06
  this
• 1:03:06
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:13
  And
• 1:03:13
  feel
• 1:03:13
  free
• 1:03:14
  to
• 1:03:14
  share
• 1:03:15
  this
• 1:03:15
  episode
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  with
• 1:03:16
  anyone
• 1:03:16
  inspired
• 1:03:17
  by
• 1:03:17
  or
• 1:03:18
  who
• 1:03:18
  enjoys
• 1:03:19
  hearing
• 1:03:19
  about
• 1:03:19
  Sonetta
• 1:03:20
  and
• 1:03:20
  her
• 1:03:20
  children's
• 1:03:21
  book,
• 1:03:21
  Ella
• 1:03:22
  Learns
• 1:03:22
  to
• 1:03:23
  Dance.
• 1:03:23
  And
• 1:03:23
  remember,
• 1:03:24
  Ella's
• 1:03:26
  More
• 1:03:26
  books
• 1:03:26
  are
• 1:03:26
  coming.
• 1:03:28
  Yes.
• 1:03:28
  Thank
• 1:03:29
  you,
• 1:03:29
  Sonetta.
• 1:03:30
  Thank
• 1:03:31
  you
• 1:03:31
  for
• 1:03:31
  having
• 1:03:31
  me
• 1:03:32
  on,
• 1:03:32
  Rick.
• 1:03:32
  I
• 1:03:32
  appreciate
• 1:03:33
  it.
• 1:03:33
  You're
• 1:03:34
  welcome.