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MISSING Student Sudiksha Konanki's Clothes Found On Beach Chair, FBI Searching · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous young missing University
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh student. Clothes found on a beach chair along with flipflops.
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Speaker 1: That's all that's left a sarong and some flip flops
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Speaker 1: at this hour, the FBI joining in the search. I'm
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us.
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Speaker 2: Sudikshu Kanunki is a twenty year old biological Sciences in
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Speaker 2: Chemistry pre med students at the prestigious University of Pittsburgh
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Speaker 2: on a spring break trip with her girlfriends in Utah, Kano.
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Speaker 2: But now authorities are frantically searching for the girl after
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Speaker 2: she disappeared on the beach.
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Speaker 3: Where is city?
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Speaker 1: This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends.
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Speaker 1: They're out having a good time dancing.
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Speaker 3: They go from moon light walk on the beach.
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Speaker 1: And now all that's left is a sarong and some
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Speaker 1: flip flops.
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Speaker 3: Listen.
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Speaker 4: The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's
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Speaker 4: sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair.
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Speaker 4: Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted
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Speaker 4: beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar
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Speaker 4: to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen.
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Speaker 4: The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen
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Speaker 4: sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside
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Speaker 4: the chair.
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Speaker 1: Why are they there, how did they get there, When
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Speaker 1: did they get there, how were they found? Where are
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Speaker 1: they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest
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Speaker 1: clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what
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Speaker 1: others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears
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Speaker 1: off the map.
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Speaker 3: Now, this is what her dad says.
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Speaker 5: Everything was going okay and she was really happy to
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Speaker 5: have a laication with that parents. The next day she
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Speaker 5: wanted to pover he excussion, and before that in the resort,
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Speaker 5: she was fine with the swimming pool.
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Speaker 3: That's our friends at ABC News.
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Speaker 1: This young girl a shining star University of Pittsburgh, her world.
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Speaker 3: In front of her.
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Speaker 1: We've been told she was studying premed, beautiful and brilliant.
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Speaker 1: Now all I've got left as a flip flop and
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Speaker 1: a sarong joining me in All Star panel to makes
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Speaker 1: sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out
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Speaker 1: to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia Local editor Patch
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Speaker 1: dot com, Emily, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: What happened? What happened that night?
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Speaker 6: Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends.
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Speaker 6: It was reported that she got there on March third,
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Speaker 6: and then she was last seen in the early morning
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Speaker 6: of March sixth. Yes, so they were at the Hotel
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Speaker 6: Rio Republica, which is a popular spring break bought in
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Speaker 6: Puntakana and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that
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Speaker 6: she was headed to the beach with a group of friends,
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Speaker 6: and it was reported that there was a power outage
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Speaker 6: that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to
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Speaker 6: the beach in these early morning hours. But then the
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Speaker 6: surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned
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Speaker 6: less than an hour later, and she was.
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Speaker 1: Not Some of that group does not include her. Take
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Speaker 1: a look at her, This beautiful young girl missing offspring break.
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Speaker 1: Dr now joining me special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He
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Speaker 1: is joining us from Lauden County Sheriff's office. He is
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Speaker 1: the sheriff. And you may wonder what does Sheriff Mike
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Speaker 1: Chapman have to do with this that she goes missing
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Speaker 1: on spring break in the dr Sheriff Chapman, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us, tell me your involvement in her case.
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Speaker 7: Well, good to be with you, and yeah, she's a
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Speaker 7: resident of Loudon County. So we received the missing personal
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Speaker 7: report from her father on the evening of the sixth,
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Speaker 7: and immediately we got on that got ahold of the
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Speaker 7: embassy down there and started getting their involvement because we
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Speaker 7: want to find out, like everybody else, exactly what happened here.
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Speaker 7: We still consider her a missing person. We're doing everything
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Speaker 7: in our power to work with the authorities down there,
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Speaker 7: with the FBI, with other agencies that are working with
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Speaker 7: the Dominican Republic to see if we can bring this
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Speaker 7: thing to a successful conclusion so that she's a resident
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Speaker 7: of ours. We take every missing person seriously. I've had
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Speaker 7: an opportunity to meet with the father and you know,
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Speaker 7: throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just a
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Speaker 7: try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing
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Speaker 7: everything that we can to try to work with them,
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Speaker 7: with our Victim Assistants unit to kind of help with that,
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Speaker 7: as well as doing everything we can to assist with
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Speaker 7: the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's. This
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Speaker 1: young girl is a resident along with her family there
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Speaker 1: and Sheriff. I can't imagine much worse than your child
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Speaker 1: going missing, and then your child going missing in another
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Speaker 1: jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's
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Speaker 1: a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it
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Speaker 1: is like, you know, an our flight, but.
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Speaker 3: It's a world away.
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Speaker 1: Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime scenes,
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Speaker 1: their interaction with victims, family and sheriff.
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Speaker 3: It's conjuring up horrible image.
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Speaker 1: Of another young girl that goes on spring break and
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Speaker 1: is never seen again.
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Speaker 8: Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up.
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Speaker 8: I insist I keep feeling her up either way, and
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Speaker 8: she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch.
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Speaker 8: Once she needs me in the crotch, I get up
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Speaker 8: on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in
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Speaker 8: the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead,
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Speaker 8: but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her,
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Speaker 8: a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach.
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Speaker 1: Just hearing the voice of your Vanderslout, the judge's son
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Speaker 1: that murdered Natalie. It gives me a physical response. Now
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Speaker 1: that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search
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Speaker 1: for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh student.
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Speaker 9: You know, Sheriff.
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Speaker 3: Chapman, that has to be on your mind. If she did,
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Speaker 3: is she a lot?
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Speaker 1: Are we ever going to get an answer because we
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Speaker 1: never found Natalie's body, Well, of course.
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Speaker 7: It is, and everything's a possibility right now. That's why
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Speaker 7: we send investigators down there to actually get a first
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Speaker 7: hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person that we
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Speaker 7: know was with her, to try to get his side
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Speaker 7: of the story. There were some inconsistencies that surfaced kind
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Speaker 7: of early on, and we wanted to get the information firsthand.
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Speaker 7: I think those inconsistencies were minor and they probably had
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Speaker 7: more to do with the translation from me at least
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Speaker 7: to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why we sent
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Speaker 7: people down. We want to make sure we get in
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Speaker 7: the first hand account of what's going on there, working
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Speaker 7: with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there, because
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Speaker 7: we just want to make sure that we don't leave
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Speaker 7: any stone unturned and we are concerned obviously, and we
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Speaker 7: want to do everything we can to help you resolve
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Speaker 7: this very challenging and difficult situation.
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Speaker 1: I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman. I
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Speaker 1: am so heartened and relieved that you have sent your
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Speaker 1: people down there. I have study cases in the islands,
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Speaker 1: including in Mexico as well, and it's a whole another system.
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Speaker 1: It's a whole another variety of law enforcement there, and
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Speaker 1: knowing that your people are there now the FBI has
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Speaker 1: joined in, is quite a comfort.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned that the main person of interest as he
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Speaker 1: is now called, has given several different statements, But after
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Speaker 1: analyzing the different statements, I'm not sure how different they
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Speaker 1: really are.
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Speaker 3: Let's listen.
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Speaker 9: In the first version of Reeby's account, he tells police
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Speaker 9: he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water
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Speaker 9: from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so
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Speaker 9: he went back to shore, but before leaving he asked
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Speaker 9: Kanaki if she was okay. Reebe says he got to
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Speaker 9: the shore and threw up and laid down.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just analyze that, okay, joining me as I
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Speaker 1: said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman
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Speaker 1: that is his as it is called his first statement.
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Speaker 1: Do you agree that that generally is his first statement?
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Speaker 7: That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement,
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Speaker 7: and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he
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Speaker 7: said since that time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a listen to his so called second statement.
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Speaker 4: In Joshua Reebe's second version of events, he claims he
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Speaker 4: and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are
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Speaker 4: talking and kissing when a roague wave crashes over them
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Speaker 4: and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try
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Speaker 4: to call for help when they surface, but there is
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Speaker 4: no one around. Reebe further claims, as a certified lifeguard,
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Speaker 4: he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as
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Speaker 4: he tries to swim back to shore, all the while
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Speaker 4: trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them
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Speaker 4: back to the beach, but struggle to catch his breath.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you have ever found this to be true. Joining me
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV Legal analysts
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Speaker 1: founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal Eric statements disturbed me
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Speaker 1: when I find a discrepancy, a conflict now upon questioning,
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Speaker 1: and they've been questioning this guy for hours and hours
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Speaker 1: and hours, why obviously they need to question for hours
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Speaker 1: and hours and hours.
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Speaker 3: He's the last one with her.
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Speaker 1: Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the
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Speaker 1: Nalie Holloway case, everybody her friends left her, the Calpo
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Speaker 1: brothers left them alone.
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Speaker 3: On the beach, and she's never seen again.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So with that as a backdrop, his story changed,
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Speaker 1: your Vanderschlup's story changed dramatically. It was full of conflicts,
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Speaker 1: full discrepancies. But when you ask questions somebody for hours
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Speaker 1: and hours and hours and you ask them different questions,
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Speaker 1: that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't hear the
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Speaker 1: first time not necessarily a conflict.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know the
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Speaker 10: second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells
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Speaker 10: more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea,
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Speaker 10: which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my
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Speaker 10: understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are
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Speaker 10: multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come
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Speaker 10: out as as each subsequent interview is had because there
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Speaker 10: are new questions that are being asked, their other details
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Speaker 10: the investigators have that they are prying into, and so
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Speaker 10: it's not entirely uncommon, and my read on it is
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Speaker 10: similar to that of the sheriffs.
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Speaker 3: Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to
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Speaker 3: believe the sheriff and.
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Speaker 1: Impute nothing but good intentions on everyone. But when you
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Speaker 1: look at the two statements, I mean, it just seems
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Speaker 1: to me. Let me go straight out to Ben Dobrain
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Speaker 1: joining me Emergency Medical Service, Marine Dive Team. Ben. It
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Speaker 1: seems to me that if I had grabbed somebody, which
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Speaker 1: I have with both.
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Speaker 3: Of my children, by the way, on separate occasions.
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Speaker 1: And pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned
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Speaker 1: that the first time. The first time, he says, he
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Speaker 1: and she went into the water. He swallowed water, which
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Speaker 1: made him throw up. He went back to shore. He
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Speaker 1: asked her if she was okay. He got to shore
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Speaker 1: and threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds
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Speaker 1: they're kissing and making out in waste deep water. A
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Speaker 1: rogue wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current.
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Speaker 1: They try to call for help. No one around and
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Speaker 1: he holds her under his arm and tries to swim
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Speaker 1: back to shore, trying to get her to breathe. That
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Speaker 1: is a lot of information, Ben that he actually grabbed
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Speaker 1: her and pulled her back to safety.
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Speaker 3: I didn't hear that the first time.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely. And you know, an interesting thing is, yes, he
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Speaker 11: was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And
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Speaker 11: I want to point out there's a very clear distinction
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Speaker 11: between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's
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Speaker 11: very different tests, and the water is very different. Every
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Speaker 11: report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is
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Speaker 11: very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In
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Speaker 11: the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in
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Speaker 11: a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and
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Speaker 11: it's very predictable where it is. So you could be
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Speaker 11: walking in the water in the ocean and hit a
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Speaker 11: hole and be overhead you know, very quickly. But for
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Speaker 11: a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing
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Speaker 11: a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves, and you know,
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Speaker 11: one report said that he kept her head out of water.
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Speaker 11: He was trying to keep her head of the water,
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Speaker 11: but his head cup going underwater. That tells me he
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Speaker 11: didn't know how to do an ocean rescue, and it's
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Speaker 11: believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And
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Speaker 11: you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've
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Speaker 11: ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was.
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Speaker 11: If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing
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Speaker 11: near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know,
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Speaker 11: we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her,
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Speaker 11: whether he brought her to shore or whether he abandoned her,
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Speaker 11: like the first one of the early versions that he
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Speaker 11: abandoned her in waste water thinking she could walk by herself,
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Speaker 11: back with the later version saying he brought her to
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Speaker 11: shore before he let her, you know, go. But either way,
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Speaker 11: you know he's supposed to go throwing her up.
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Speaker 1: Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive
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Speaker 1: accident off the coast of Cosimo and nearly drowned and
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Speaker 1: was throwing up water.
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Speaker 3: It was kind of out of my nose, my mouth.
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Speaker 1: If you're in that shape, I don't know how you
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Speaker 1: can look around and see anything that's going on, which
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Speaker 1: goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he
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Speaker 1: says he's throwing up and not paying attention, and he looked.
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Speaker 3: Around as she was gone.
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Speaker 1: On the other hand, he also says this now listen
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Speaker 1: to the third version.
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Speaker 9: Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he
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Speaker 9: heroically gets Sidikha Kanky back to shore, but says he
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Speaker 9: swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness
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Speaker 9: several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls
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Speaker 9: Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together
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Speaker 9: her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks
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Speaker 9: her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due
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Speaker 9: to vomiting all of the saltwater He's followed. While saving Kananki,
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Speaker 9: he says he looked around and doesn't see anyone. Assume
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Speaker 9: she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired,
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Speaker 9: Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair. Where
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Speaker 9: is missing twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Sudikha Kananki,
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Speaker 9: The bio and chemistry student, was last seen on the
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Speaker 9: beach before mysteriously disappearing. Where is Sudiksha at this hour?
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Speaker 9: The FBI joining in the.
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Speaker 1: Search straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman and joining us
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Speaker 1: from Loudin County Sheriff he is the shareff there who
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Speaker 1: assent reps from his office from his force down to
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Speaker 1: the d R to try to find her. I've got
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Speaker 1: a question and to your understanding, why is the FBI.
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Speaker 7: Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably
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Speaker 7: the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint,
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Speaker 7: But you have to remember that it's the Dominican Republic
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Speaker 7: is so they it really is their investigation. So the
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Speaker 7: FBI is assisting, and we're assisting. And one of the
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Speaker 7: things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact
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Speaker 7: that it's a foreign country here, and people have to
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Speaker 7: understand it may seem like America when you get there,
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Speaker 7: because you know, a resort like that, people are speaking
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Speaker 7: English and they're you know, it seems very friendly with
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Speaker 7: a lot of Americans there. But the fact is it's
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Speaker 7: a foreign country and there's a lot a lot of
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Speaker 7: other things that you have to deal with when you're
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Speaker 7: when you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting in
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Speaker 7: the FBI, who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there.
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Speaker 7: And but again I send my people down because we
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Speaker 7: wanted to get a first hand account and not here,
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Speaker 7: you know secondhand information.
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Speaker 1: You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved
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Speaker 1: and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we
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Speaker 1: just get real for a moment. The law enforcement in
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Speaker 1: the d R. Are you kidding me? You think I'm
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Speaker 1: going to trust the law enforcement in the d R.
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Speaker 6: No, I'm not.
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Speaker 3: You know, I started writing a book, Don't Be a Victim.
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Speaker 3: I got to the DR.
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Speaker 1: I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 1: You think they've got touched DNA? You think they know
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Speaker 1: how to use a VAT at a crime scene or
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Speaker 1: complicated blood spatter.
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Speaker 3: Or anything remotely like what we have developed in the
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Speaker 3: United States. That's a yes, No, Sheriff. Do you really.
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Speaker 1: Believe that their investigation even approaches what we would consider
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Speaker 1: a world class investigation like you would find in your jurisdiction.
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm retired from VA. I served three times overseas,
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Speaker 7: and you're right, Nancy, you can't You know that there's
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Speaker 7: a huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do
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Speaker 7: and what we can do and the capabilities that we
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Speaker 7: have in the US. I think the best thing that's
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Speaker 7: going on here right now is the fact that staying
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Speaker 7: in the news, it kind of forces them to make
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Speaker 7: sure that they're on their game because they've got oversight,
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Speaker 7: they've got they've got everybody looking at it from across
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Speaker 7: the globe here with regards to the media. You have
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Speaker 7: the FBI that's looking at what they're doing down there,
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Speaker 7: you have US that's looking at what they're doing. So
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Speaker 7: the fact is that I think all that helps hold
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Speaker 7: them more accountable, and it gives us the opportunity to
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Speaker 7: share some of the capabilities that we have with them.
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Speaker 7: And I know, you know, like the FBI, for example,
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Speaker 7: I believe send a dive team down So there's a lot,
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Speaker 7: there's a lot that we can offer there. And and
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Speaker 7: again it's poor country, so we were trying to kind
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Speaker 7: of help with them, help guide them through it a
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Speaker 7: little bit and make sure they're not missing anything.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, You're you're being overly kind in
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Speaker 1: your analysis, in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into
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Speaker 1: a US citizen going missing.
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Speaker 3: Has gone sideways.
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Speaker 11: Listen, when you say cinder block, I'm looking at the
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Speaker 11: walls this place isn't like those.
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Speaker 8: Exact same cinder blocks. I see a huge cinder block
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Speaker 8: laying on the on the beach. I take this and
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Speaker 8: I smash her head in with it. Completely. Her face basically,
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Speaker 8: you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can
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Speaker 8: see her faces collapsed in afterwards. I don't exactly know
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Speaker 8: what you know. I'm I'm scared. I don't know what
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Speaker 8: to do.
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Speaker 3: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Joining me, a longtime colleague and friend, Professor Forensis Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon,
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Speaker 1: star of a hit series of body Bags with Joseph Morgan.
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, you were with me in the courtroom there
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Speaker 1: at the Hugo Black Federal Building with Beth Holloway. You
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Speaker 1: just heard the double killer yourn Vandersloot describing how he
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Speaker 1: murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba, and you recall, Joe Scott,
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Speaker 1: that Beth.
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Speaker 3: And I went back to Aruba.
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Speaker 1: To try on our own to stir up find more clues,
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Speaker 1: more anything to help find Natalie. Your vander Slute was
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Speaker 1: in court fourteen years later, and we still don't really
21:17
Speaker 1: know what happened.
21:17
Speaker 3: To now. The only thing I know is one thing
21:20
Speaker 3: that he sex attacked her and he murdered her. So
21:26
Speaker 3: all this about we're helping Dominican Republic.
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Speaker 1: We better go there and take over the investigation and
21:36
Speaker 1: let them help us.
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Speaker 3: You really think, Joe.
21:39
Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into
21:45
Speaker 1: where is Tadiitsha?
21:47
Speaker 3: No, they haven't, and we lost critical time, critical time,
21:52
Speaker 3: Joe Scott.
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Speaker 12: Yeah. Pressure pressure, pressure is what has to constantly be
21:56
Speaker 12: applied in here, and you cannot take the spotlight off
21:59
Speaker 12: of this case. We've seen how these cases have gone
22:02
Speaker 12: over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is a benchmark
22:07
Speaker 12: in time relative to what can happen as memories begin
22:11
Speaker 12: to erode, and we don't want that to happen in
22:14
Speaker 12: this particular case. In the DR we have to continue
22:17
Speaker 12: to press and I would suggest as well, the party
22:21
Speaker 12: that she was with, and I'm talking about this fellow
22:24
Speaker 12: that she was last seen with, I'm talking about all
22:27
Speaker 12: of her friends that were there. They need to be
22:30
Speaker 12: sequestered and they need to be pressed about all of
22:34
Speaker 12: the activities that they engaged in that evening relative to
22:38
Speaker 12: any kind of consumption of alcohol. Her behavior prior to
22:42
Speaker 12: interacting with this young man, and then perhaps if they
22:45
Speaker 12: observed her interacting with him on any level, whether it
22:48
Speaker 12: be violent, whether it be romantic as he has implied,
22:53
Speaker 12: if you will. And you know, my biggest thing here
22:57
Speaker 12: is were there any agents that were applied to her
23:01
Speaker 12: relative to things that she had consumed? Remember, one of
23:04
Speaker 12: the things that happened in the Holloway case was that
23:08
Speaker 12: we had suspected for some period of time that there
23:12
Speaker 12: may have been some kind of anebriant that was applied
23:15
Speaker 12: to her in her drinks at that particular time. I'm
23:18
Speaker 12: thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs, those sorts
23:21
Speaker 12: of things. So word of warning here that needs to
23:25
Speaker 12: be because listen, don't we don't have her to do
23:30
Speaker 12: a talks draw on, okay, so we can't tell you
23:33
Speaker 12: what's going on with her talks Coologically, all we have
23:37
Speaker 12: to rely upon are those people that were there as
23:40
Speaker 12: witnesses to what had happened prior to her going missing
23:44
Speaker 12: that night. That's going to be Key Nay.
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Speaker 3: A spring break trip takes a turn.
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Speaker 2: For the worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh
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Speaker 2: student Suditcha Kannkey vanishes after a night out.
23:57
Speaker 3: We're friends.
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Speaker 1: See that video one more time. I want to make
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Speaker 1: sure you see what I'm seeing. This is from our
24:04
Speaker 1: friend at know to see us, our friends that know
24:06
Speaker 1: to see us. Now she's on the left. Look there,
24:08
Speaker 1: she goes, throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left. A
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Speaker 1: friend is there, see right there? Okay, and they're talking
24:15
Speaker 1: to each other. But if you look on the right,
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Speaker 1: we believe that is him. See him, we think on
24:22
Speaker 1: the right throwing up out by trash can Now is
24:28
Speaker 1: that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing.
24:31
Speaker 3: Let's just start it over one more time.
24:34
Speaker 1: Which leads me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did
24:37
Speaker 1: they ingest that's making them throw up?
24:42
Speaker 3: Okay, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 9: Sadiksha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican
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Speaker 9: Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all
24:51
Speaker 9: inclusive resort Rio Republica in Puntakana. A couple of days later,
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Speaker 9: Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when
24:57
Speaker 9: the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in
25:00
Speaker 9: some areas. The group of six women and two men
25:03
Speaker 9: decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach.
25:05
Speaker 9: Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with
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Speaker 9: two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later,
25:10
Speaker 9: surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach.
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Speaker 9: Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve,
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Speaker 9: a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US.
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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at
25:22
Speaker 1: SI N. Take a look at this. Now we are
25:25
Speaker 1: seeing the two of them walking. Okay, Now I understand
25:30
Speaker 1: that this is after There they are, Yes, there they are,
25:34
Speaker 1: and that is consistent with what he was wearing when
25:38
Speaker 1: he was vomiting. Remember in that video you see the
25:41
Speaker 1: white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts, and the backpack.
25:46
Speaker 1: That's why we believe that was him vomiting at a
25:49
Speaker 1: trash can outside.
25:51
Speaker 3: Now you've got another view.
25:52
Speaker 1: This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video catching
25:56
Speaker 1: there you see the group, they're all walking to the.
25:59
Speaker 3: Beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what happened
26:05
Speaker 3: after that?
26:07
Speaker 1: To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author
26:10
Speaker 1: of Nervous Energy Harness the pair of your anxiety, and
26:14
Speaker 1: you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe Doctor Chloe.
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Speaker 1: As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like
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Speaker 1: the US, and that gives you the suggestion of safety,
26:31
Speaker 1: that you understand what's around you, that you understand what's happening. Typically,
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Speaker 1: you go into a bar and you're dancing and have
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Speaker 1: a good time with your friends. In the US, it's
26:42
Speaker 1: unlikely it happens, but it's unlikely you're going to get
26:46
Speaker 1: drug to start throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to
26:50
Speaker 1: be separated from your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning.
26:53
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because you're on vacation. I'm not sure what
26:56
Speaker 1: it is. Your defenses are down and you're functioning in
27:00
Speaker 1: a bubble.
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Speaker 13: Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange.
27:07
Speaker 13: You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that
27:11
Speaker 13: they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's
27:14
Speaker 13: dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking,
27:19
Speaker 13: but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really
27:22
Speaker 13: does point to a serious possibility of you know, maybe
27:26
Speaker 13: taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to
27:29
Speaker 13: throw up before you then start to feel good. And
27:32
Speaker 13: it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured obviously
27:35
Speaker 13: appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's on
27:38
Speaker 13: a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him back
27:42
Speaker 13: from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking illegal
27:45
Speaker 13: drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend to
27:48
Speaker 13: hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with the drugs,
27:51
Speaker 13: and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship. I'm not
27:56
Speaker 13: sure because she doesn't fit the profile of a serial
28:00
Speaker 13: risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized, she's in
28:03
Speaker 13: a pre med program. She's only there on a vacation,
28:07
Speaker 13: so something about it definitely seems strange. I would also
28:10
Speaker 13: be curious since he says that he went and fell
28:13
Speaker 13: asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like somebody who's
28:16
Speaker 13: guilty and trying to evade the scene of a crime.
28:19
Speaker 13: We have a lot of video of him before the incident.
28:21
Speaker 13: I'm curious about the first time that he appears on
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Speaker 13: video after the disappearance.
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Speaker 3: I agree with you, now, this is what he says happens.
28:29
Speaker 9: Listen after the night on the beach Kanaki's friends go
28:31
Speaker 9: on an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for,
28:34
Speaker 9: so they don't miss her. As they head out at
28:36
Speaker 9: eight fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel
28:39
Speaker 9: room alone, without his shoes or his shirt. It's only
28:42
Speaker 9: after Sidekha's friends return that afternoon they realized they don't
28:46
Speaker 9: know where Sidekha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says
28:49
Speaker 9: he passed out on the beach and when he awoke,
28:51
Speaker 9: he was alone and went to his hotel room, assuming
28:54
Speaker 9: Kanaki had already done the same. But it's been twelve
28:57
Speaker 9: hours since she was last seen.
28:58
Speaker 1: Now I want to look at the video again. But
29:01
Speaker 1: to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone?
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Speaker 10: The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence
29:09
Speaker 10: in a case like this. It needs to be looked
29:10
Speaker 10: into a little more further. I think when you look
29:12
Speaker 10: at that video that we just saw of the two
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Speaker 10: walking near the hotel at night, really has what appears
29:18
Speaker 10: to be a cell phone in his hands, sort of
29:19
Speaker 10: documenting what's going on, common sense would tell us that
29:22
Speaker 10: that could be his cell phone. But later in some
29:26
Speaker 10: reports I've read, he tells police that after he's at
29:29
Speaker 10: the beach, he goes back to his own room to
29:33
Speaker 10: get his cell phone. So when did he drop it off?
29:36
Speaker 10: Is there some sort of evidence of that, did someone
29:38
Speaker 10: go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that.
29:41
Speaker 10: What is going on with the cell phone? And what
29:43
Speaker 10: might it show about what happened?
29:44
Speaker 1: We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus, we're learning more about
29:48
Speaker 1: the timeline now the vomiting, the vomiting video.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is.
29:54
Speaker 1: There's what we believe is his cell phone, you're right, Eric,
30:00
Speaker 1: And it looks like he's videoing a selfie video.
30:03
Speaker 3: You're right? Is that his? Or is that hers? And
30:06
Speaker 3: has her cell phone been found?
30:08
Speaker 1: The vomiting incident is around four five am?
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Speaker 3: Okay, now listen to this.
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Speaker 14: CCTV helps shot a timeline for Joshua Rebeat starting around
30:22
Speaker 14: four am, when he is seen with his arm draped
30:24
Speaker 14: around Sudeiksha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach
30:27
Speaker 14: at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking
30:31
Speaker 14: back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am.
30:34
Speaker 14: Suditsha is not seen on CCTV returning from the beach.
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Speaker 1: So we've got four to five they're throwing up and
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Speaker 1: walking toward the beach. And now look at this shot.
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Speaker 1: This is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five
30:51
Speaker 1: between four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay,
30:57
Speaker 1: Sheriff Mike Chapman.
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Speaker 7: Way in, Well, I can tell you you know, we're
31:03
Speaker 7: we are looking at the phones. We have the numbers.
31:06
Speaker 7: There's there is work that's being done on that. I
31:08
Speaker 7: can't really go into the detail on that. We do
31:11
Speaker 7: have some extensive investigation that's being done on that, and
31:15
Speaker 7: that's going to take a little a little bit of
31:16
Speaker 7: time to get that information back. But it's not it's
31:20
Speaker 7: not anything that's been an oversight on the investigator's part. Again,
31:24
Speaker 7: working with the FBI, work come with our counterparts and
31:27
Speaker 7: trying to do the best we can to get as
31:29
Speaker 7: much information as we can with regards to the phones.
31:31
Speaker 1: Will you say, as much information as you can regarding
31:34
Speaker 1: the phone, Sheriff Chapman. Have they found both of their phones?
31:39
Speaker 7: Again, I can't really get into that. What I can
31:41
Speaker 7: tell you is that we do have the numbers of
31:45
Speaker 7: I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there
31:49
Speaker 7: is there is some technical work that's being done on that.
31:53
Speaker 7: But again that's you know, it's it's part of the
31:56
Speaker 7: ongoing investigation, and really we can't really discuss a whole
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Speaker 7: lot more.
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Speaker 1: After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what
32:06
Speaker 1: he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a
32:11
Speaker 1: Kanukie family friend, he was very helpful.
32:15
Speaker 3: Listen to what they told our friends at ABC.
32:18
Speaker 5: We walked to the beach along with the boy, and
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Speaker 5: the boy helped us, and he was annoying us kind
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Speaker 5: of like what really happened and.
32:27
Speaker 3: Where he was our friends at ABC.
32:35
Speaker 2: The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student
32:39
Speaker 2: Sudiksha Kanukey last.
32:41
Speaker 14: Seen him on the beach well on a spring.
32:43
Speaker 3: Break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it?
32:50
Speaker 1: She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a
32:54
Speaker 1: guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed
32:59
Speaker 1: out to see rebe the well. It's the so called
33:05
Speaker 1: person of interest. But now we're learning that dr is
33:08
Speaker 1: backtracking saying he's not really a person of interest, he's
33:12
Speaker 1: a witness. Now I find that really interesting that they're
33:16
Speaker 1: holding him there. He can't believe they've got his passport yet.
33:19
Speaker 1: He's just a witness. Let me ask you about that,
33:23
Speaker 1: Earv Brant. Now I am transposing the US justice system
33:29
Speaker 1: onto the dr which was anything but true. But you
33:34
Speaker 1: have to be a POI or a suspect or be
33:38
Speaker 1: named a material witness by a court before you can
33:44
Speaker 1: have your passport taken, seized and forced to stay there.
33:48
Speaker 3: At least that's a law in the US.
33:50
Speaker 15: What's happening, Well, it's exactly what you said, Nancy. We
33:55
Speaker 15: view these things as we would view them in the US,
33:58
Speaker 15: which once you leave the US, it's completely different. Their country,
34:05
Speaker 15: their rules.
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Speaker 3: And not in a good way or not in a
34:09
Speaker 3: good way.
34:09
Speaker 15: No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I
34:13
Speaker 15: worked extensively outside of the country, and it's very frustrating.
34:18
Speaker 15: But each country has their own way of doing things.
34:22
Speaker 15: And if they take his passport, then they take his
34:26
Speaker 15: passport and he can leave until they tell him he
34:29
Speaker 15: can leave.
34:30
Speaker 1: I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig,
34:33
Speaker 1: but I guess I'll have to do it for the
34:34
Speaker 1: first time right now. Or every country has their own
34:37
Speaker 1: way of doing things, you mean, their own way of
34:39
Speaker 1: botching up an investigation.
34:41
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be a little more accurate, just like Innaruba.
34:44
Speaker 15: Yes, that would be more accurate, Nancy, I'm being far
34:48
Speaker 15: too nice.
34:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know why.
34:51
Speaker 1: Because every hour counts if she is still alive, and
34:55
Speaker 1: there is that possibility anything could have happened to.
34:58
Speaker 3: Her, our counts and while we.
35:01
Speaker 1: Are tiptoeing around the fact that the d are screwing
35:04
Speaker 1: this up, that's one more hour.
35:07
Speaker 3: Lost Earth, one more hour.
35:09
Speaker 1: Thank Heaven, Chapman, send his people down in the FBI
35:14
Speaker 1: are involved.
35:15
Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just
35:17
Speaker 3: screaming down the window going down Third Avenue.
35:21
Speaker 1: Every hour counts here, and we can't rely on the
35:24
Speaker 1: DR to do anything.
35:26
Speaker 12: One of the biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the
35:29
Speaker 12: idea that this is not like a broad spectrum approach
35:32
Speaker 12: relative to an investigation. If they're only focused on this
35:36
Speaker 12: one kid here, this one guy they that she was
35:39
Speaker 12: last seen with, you're going to miss other things along
35:43
Speaker 12: the way. I have a real issue with both of these,
35:47
Speaker 12: both of these individuals almost throwing up simultaneously.
35:51
Speaker 11: At that bar.
35:52
Speaker 12: I want to know if there's any other kind of
35:54
Speaker 12: illness that could be associated there on there, and I
35:57
Speaker 12: want to know if anybody's been following this.
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Speaker 1: Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did into
36:05
Speaker 1: alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that have
36:11
Speaker 1: ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go to
36:16
Speaker 1: a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg whiskey
36:19
Speaker 1: put in a US model? Okay, it might say seagrums
36:23
Speaker 1: or something else on the front, but you're getting some
36:26
Speaker 1: hooch made in somebody's garage.
36:28
Speaker 3: Okay, that's happening.
36:32
Speaker 12: Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia
36:35
Speaker 12: involved in methanol and they are a huge group of
36:38
Speaker 12: these cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy,
36:42
Speaker 12: where you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume
36:45
Speaker 12: alcohol was, they make bootleg hoots or bathtub gin out
36:50
Speaker 12: of methanol, which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want
36:54
Speaker 12: to know if there's any other instances down in the
36:57
Speaker 12: dr at this specific resort that have led and it
37:01
Speaker 12: can lead to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death.
37:05
Speaker 12: I want to know if anybody else was presenting that
37:07
Speaker 12: way that night. That's what I mean by broad spectrum here.
37:10
Speaker 12: You can't just narrow your focus down to this one event.
37:13
Speaker 12: We want to know what else was going on around
37:15
Speaker 12: them that night. And again, this could be a PR
37:18
Speaker 12: nightmare for the dr if there is any kind of
37:22
Speaker 12: problem with an alcohol down all right, Like it was.
37:24
Speaker 1: A PR nightmare for Aruba when Natalie went missing, Tourism
37:28
Speaker 1: from the US skyrocketed. Okay, So when you don't know
37:32
Speaker 1: a horse, look at the track record. When you don't
37:34
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, look at what already did happen.
37:37
Speaker 3: But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get
37:40
Speaker 3: total vision on Rebet. Now. Yes, I've got a problem
37:45
Speaker 3: with him. Of course I've got a problem with him.
37:47
Speaker 1: He's the last one with a girl in all I've
37:49
Speaker 1: got is a flip flop and a sarong.
37:51
Speaker 3: He's the last one with her.
37:53
Speaker 1: And his story is all over the map, not necessarily
37:58
Speaker 1: consistent though, So yes, looking at him, but total vision
38:02
Speaker 1: is not going to help find her. And as a
38:06
Speaker 1: matter of fact, this is what people that know Rebee
38:08
Speaker 1: have to say.
38:09
Speaker 3: Josh was just so polite.
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Speaker 6: He was a good teammate in sports, and he was
38:15
Speaker 6: part of the boy scout troop.
38:17
Speaker 3: Never heard a girl.
38:19
Speaker 10: You know, I don't know what happened, but there's no
38:21
Speaker 10: way he would have intentionally been any part of any
38:24
Speaker 10: scheme to do something to her.
38:26
Speaker 3: From our friends at GMA.
38:30
Speaker 2: Authorities are looking at on Iowa Man, believed to be
38:33
Speaker 2: the last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students
38:36
Speaker 2: Sudiksha Kanunki.
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Speaker 3: Also under the microscope. Two then MO payments.
38:44
Speaker 1: One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha
38:47
Speaker 1: put an emoji of a sailboat beside the venmo payment.
38:52
Speaker 3: You know, you can put a little.
38:53
Speaker 1: Message in there, And the other one is to replaced
38:56
Speaker 1: Coco Bongo. To Emily Layman, joining from past dot Com,
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Speaker 1: explain to me about the two venmos and where they
39:04
Speaker 1: fit into the timeline.
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Speaker 6: They fit in the timeline because those are the last
39:09
Speaker 6: Venmo transactions that she had, and these are you know,
39:13
Speaker 6: you think, payments that she would send between friends for
39:17
Speaker 6: the activities that they were doing when they were on
39:20
Speaker 6: their spring break trip. But one of them, of course,
39:24
Speaker 6: you don't really know much about because all it has
39:25
Speaker 6: is a sailboat emoji and we don't really know much
39:27
Speaker 6: information about who that went to. And then the other one,
39:33
Speaker 6: of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed
39:36
Speaker 6: to be a friend with her on the trip, but
39:40
Speaker 6: we don't know who else was at that nightclub.
39:44
Speaker 1: The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could
39:48
Speaker 1: have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was
39:51
Speaker 1: telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're
39:56
Speaker 1: functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You made it guy,
40:00
Speaker 1: and you immediately go for a walk on the beach
40:02
Speaker 1: and go out in the water with him alone.
40:05
Speaker 3: Why why?
40:06
Speaker 1: Of course she's young, but it's happened before, and not
40:11
Speaker 1: just with Natalie Holloway.
40:12
Speaker 16: Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner it had met
40:15
Speaker 16: Gary Giordano on match dot com a year before. Friends
40:19
Speaker 16: say the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship,
40:23
Speaker 16: but stayed in contact via email. When the invitation came,
40:26
Speaker 16: Robin said yes, and the pair arrived in a Ruba
40:29
Speaker 16: July thirty.
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Speaker 14: First.
40:31
Speaker 17: I was told that she was lost at sea, and
40:33
Speaker 17: I just found that very surprising because I know that
40:38
Speaker 17: she really doesn't swim or get into the water because
40:42
Speaker 17: she has extensions and.
40:46
Speaker 11: Her makeup and got all called up and she.
40:50
Speaker 17: Just didn't want to ruin that.
40:51
Speaker 1: And that was Robin's sister talking to me and apparently
40:55
Speaker 1: with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay,
41:01
Speaker 1: although she would never have gotten in the water after
41:04
Speaker 1: just having.
41:05
Speaker 3: Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell?
41:08
Speaker 9: TeX's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas, tending a
41:11
Speaker 9: yoga retreat on Paradise Island in Nassau. The Seven Andra
41:15
Speaker 9: Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times,
41:18
Speaker 9: Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination.
41:22
Speaker 9: Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the
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Speaker 9: same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself
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Speaker 9: to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted,
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Speaker 9: but Belle is never found, and Taylor Casey Taylor Casey
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Speaker 9: goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about
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Speaker 9: halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification as seven Andro
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Speaker 9: on Ashram Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, she's reported
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Speaker 9: missing after failing to show up for morning classes. Police
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Speaker 9: find her phone in the water days later, but haven't
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Speaker 9: been able to access its contents, and she remains missing.
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Speaker 1: To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk
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Speaker 1: out in the water and they're never seen again according
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Speaker 1: to reports.
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Speaker 3: Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff?
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Speaker 7: Of course. I mean if if that was the case
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Speaker 7: in this case, I mean, you know, you certainly would
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Speaker 7: hope for a recovery, a quick recovery. But that hasn't happened.
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Speaker 7: So that's why we can't really jump on a conclusion
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Speaker 7: ship jamply. Yeah, it's a shame, but it does happen
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Speaker 7: from time to time.
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Speaker 1: I wish I had better answers tonight, Sheriff. Usually the
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Speaker 1: facts are more clearly defined, but this is just too
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Speaker 1: murky to make a call. But what we do know
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Speaker 1: is this young girl pre med Suditsha is gone. Tip
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Speaker 1: line Local number seven zero three seven seven seven one
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Speaker 1: zero two one repeat. This is Sheriff Mike Chapman's number
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Speaker 1: seven zero three seven seven seven one zero two one.
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Speaker 3: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,