Latest / Financial Survival Network / Revolutionizing Charitable Giving: Donor Network Boosts Transparency & Impact: Chase Harmer #5999
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- 0:00When these wishers are in our system, they create a story for whatever their
- 0:04need is. Johnny broke his arm, or you know, hey we need
- 0:07food for the family, or hey we need ride back and forth to work.
- 0:10Whatever that cause or crisis is, they can instantly go to that shopping
- 0:13portal which has every major retailer United States in their Walgreens, Walmart, Amazon,
- 0:18you know all the ones. They can instantly go in there spending those
- 0:21funds same day, and you can get full reconciliation as a donor, so
- 0:26you always understand the impact that your transaction made, the impact that your dollar's
- 0:30made. And I think that's really the connection that's missing inside of the charitable
- 0:34giving spaces. When you give, you actually really never know what happens to
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- 1:00now more than ever, and welcome. This is Financial Survival Network and I'm
- 1:10your host, Carrie Lutz. Well got interesting guests on today. I think
- 1:15you really appreciate what he's doing and really opening up the world of charitable giving.
- 1:23Name is Chase Armor, and Chase great to have you on the show.
- 1:27So man, thank thanks for having I guess your background we should talk
- 1:32about because it's directly connected to what you're doing now. So you created,
- 1:37I guess, a platform, a network processing transactions. You process, you
- 1:44know, billions and billions. You sold out, I think it was called
- 1:49pay Certify. Was your old company, sold out from five billion? And
- 1:53now now you're trying to make the world a better place. Great, trying
- 1:57to make up a little better place. That's what it's all about, leaving
- 1:59a legacy behind you, you know. So how are you doing that?
- 2:04Explain to most donor network effect somebody it's under network, right, Yeah,
- 2:08Well, I mean I think it's both sides. So I approached it from
- 2:10the donor side because I was giving, and I never understood the impact of
- 2:15any money that I was ever donating to any charity, any cause, any
- 2:17crisis. And I was really kind of sick of every grocery store asking me
- 2:22for money when I checked out at their pos and never understanding where those dollars
- 2:28were going. So I really just wanted transparency what was going to impact,
- 2:34what was going to addmin to always understand what that my dollars were always going
- 2:38to something that mattered, you know, not some desks or an office building
- 2:44somewhere. And so that's really what I was trying to solve. And how
- 2:47we did that is we created an ecosystem which kind of tipped to tail like
- 2:53donations in all the way to the how those were being spent. And we
- 2:57essentially turned donations into virtual credit cards. So everyone's familiar with using credit cards
- 3:04and even on their digital wallet. The great thing about using a credit card
- 3:07you always understand the money. At the end of the day, when you
- 3:09go to the grocery store and spend twenty bucks, you could see it instantly
- 3:13onside of your reporting portal on your credit card. So that's the think about
- 3:17creating ledgers is we're able to transparently show the dollars and dollars out. So
- 3:23when people donate to a cause, crisis or a category specific need like growth
- 3:28frees, hotel, ride share, whatever, maybe have you, what happens
- 3:32is those dollars come into our platform through a five o' one C three public
- 3:36charity. So you instantly get that tax deductible a receipt, which you can't
- 3:39get anywhere on any other crowdfunding platform in the market, because if you try
- 3:44to use platform like GoFundMe or any other platform, they're four prop companies and
- 3:47so they're not able to give you tax deduction on an individual donation or a
- 3:52charitable donation through their platform. So through our platform you get the tax deductible
- 3:55receipt. We turn that into a credit card, which is digital, and
- 4:00it's sent directly to that cause, crisis or charity. And then because where
- 4:03the card issue or with a master card, we actually can see where those
- 4:08donations are spent, how they are being spent, and we can admit it
- 4:11immediately give access to those funds instead of our shopping portal. So if you
- 4:15think about like Apple, the Apple store, like the Apple store inside of
- 4:17the App store, like on your phone, it's basically like that, except
- 4:21with every major retailer in the United States. So when these wishers are in
- 4:27our system, they create a story for whatever their need is. Johnny broke
- 4:30his arm, or you know, hey we need food for the family,
- 4:32or hey we need right back and forth to work whatever that cause our crisis
- 4:35is. They can instantly go to that shopping portal which has every major retailer
- 4:40the United States in their Walgreens, Walmart, Amazon, you know, all
- 4:44all the ones. They can instantly go in there and spend those funds,
- 4:46you know, same day, and you can get full reconciliation as a donor,
- 4:50So you always understand the impact that your transaction made, the impact that
- 4:55your dollar's made. And I think that's really the connection that's missing inside of
- 4:59the charitable giving space is when you give, you actually really never know what
- 5:01happens to the money. Yeah, you know that's mean giving, right,
- 5:05It's like the connection's gone, you know, like why do you give?
- 5:09What do you give? If, like you help, you have this emotional
- 5:12connection to a causer crisis, but if you never know what happens afterwards,
- 5:15Like you know, where's the connection? You know? Yeah, It's like
- 5:18you send all this money to the Red Cross, you know, because there's
- 5:23been a calamity, a Hurricane Katrina or a Hurricane Andrew, and they're getting
- 5:29tons of money from the government, and then you never know where your money
- 5:33went. And then you find out later, oh they had it just went
- 5:36into the general funds and they just pay stuff out of it, and we
- 5:41don't field how to betrayed on that right you feel like and then take it,
- 5:46Well, that's the reality is that you know, when there's a causer
- 5:47crisis, those are major raising dollar opportunities, but those dollars don't actually go
- 5:54towards that aid. You know, it goes into a general fund because a
- 5:58funds and already there to be deployed. So if you wanted to help someone
- 6:00in crisis or in and actually know that you help that person, there is
- 6:04no way to do that today outside of what we created because and there's no
- 6:11way for charities to actually show you what your dollars went towards, right,
- 6:15because it all goes into like a big fund, right, so your dollars
- 6:18are never right exactly huge buck and it's impossible to reconcile your twenty dollars or
- 6:25your thousand dollars or your five hundred dollars what would it actually went to?
- 6:29Right, And so I think we were solving that problem for donors so they
- 6:32can always feel good about their transactions. But then always understand that, you
- 6:36know, if you're trying to make a difference for one specific thing or you
- 6:40know, one cause or crisis, and you know you could actually make that
- 6:44difference and actually feel great about what you did. Yeah, I mean that's
- 6:46like I love it because I always feel like, you know, why send
- 6:50to the Red Cross, Because like you said, where's that money going?
- 6:55It's like it's probably it's going to have no relation to why you think you're
- 7:00giving it, you know, So that's actually true. And you know it's
- 7:03not like they're a bad organization. You know, they're they're a very very
- 7:06large organization, you know, but there's really trees truly no way for there's
- 7:11no tools out there or or platform that can actually help enable this type of
- 7:16insight. And I think that's really what we're bringing into the market is to
- 7:19help those organizations not only raise money transparently, but actually give impact, give
- 7:28impact reporting back to those donors. And I think it helps them raise funds
- 7:31because you know, it helps them raise fund number one, but it also
- 7:34gives donors one singular platform where they can donate anywhere. It always get that
- 7:41tax deductability even if those even if those charities or causes or crisis don't have
- 7:46the ability to provide that tax ability reporting back you can have you can house
- 7:49all your tax deductibility reports all in one portal. And it also works almost
- 7:54like a donors advised funds. So if you think about how a donor advised
- 7:58fund works too, if you put money into a donor advised fund, you
- 8:03really never know where those dollars goes, how those impact is going. But
- 8:05you also get the advantage of a donort device fund is you give that tax
- 8:09deduction right away, right no matter even if you decide to allocate those dollars
- 8:13six months or eight months down the line. In our platform, you can
- 8:16actually put that those dollars to work at that tax deductability immediately, and then
- 8:20when a crisis happens, you can immediately deploy that capital to that crisis or
- 8:24impact, so you can get that tax deduction right away. You could sit
- 8:28there on the balance cheat up your thing, and then you can actually direct
- 8:31those funds later. So it works like that as well, So very cool.
- 8:35Like I think it's going to give smaller charity as an opportunity where you
- 8:39do get that immediate response where there are actually in the trenches. It'll enable
- 8:46them to raise money that they would never otherwise be able to well, sure,
- 8:50and if you think about if you're a new nonprofit, it's almost impossible
- 8:52to raise dollars as a new nonprofit without any track record history, right.
- 8:58So this allows new nonprofit with a great mission behind them to actually raise more
- 9:03dollars more effectively because donors always understand where those dollars are going, so they
- 9:09could give a nonprofit a change. If you think about it as a nonprofit,
- 9:11if you're getting dollars from anyone and then you cope back to you're going
- 9:16back to them later to say, hey, we need more money, right,
- 9:18how how does it it doesn't help you to not be able to show
- 9:22where those dollars went before. You know, it really gives you a lot
- 9:24of leverage when you can say, hey, look at what we did with
- 9:26your money last time. We'd love for you to participate this time. It's
- 9:31important. It really makes it easier for them to raise more dollars. But
- 9:33donors to really always have that confidence that that trust is there. Kind of
- 9:37a fund of funds approach here, but you're actually controlling where the funds go
- 9:41once you put them in. They had to come up with this concept,
- 9:46you know, I came from that I've been in fintech for you know,
- 9:48as long as I've been young adults since ninety eating them forty four now,
- 9:54and so I kind of built been on both sides of the equation in the
- 9:58payment system. And you know, I was one of the pioneers and site
- 10:01of the virtual credit card space that became obsessed with the whole economy of the
- 10:03transaction. If you think about how it works in business, every purchase,
- 10:07what was a sale before that, right, So there's wholesalers, there are
- 10:11suppliers, There's a whole economy chain in a transaction that happens when a consumer
- 10:15bisor product. There's suppliers that need to get paid. There's there's product that
- 10:18needs to get bought. There's like four different there's four different people involved in
- 10:22that transaction on the back end that make that product purchase a reality. And
- 10:26I think I became obsessed with that, and then I said, I can
- 10:31beak the whole economy for a donation transaction and solve the problem the biggest problem
- 10:35that exists inside of the charitable giving space, which is nobody understands where the
- 10:39money goes, and it's a black box. You know, we can open
- 10:41up that black box and show that transparency, and there's a way to do
- 10:43it, and it just took financial and a fintech innovation to make that happen.
- 10:48And so we basically broke the held system of how money used to flow
- 10:54and we created and do use system that's completely on credit card rails and bake
- 11:00rails that make allow that allows us to kind of build this infrastructure that creates
- 11:05transparency but doesn't doesn't change consumer behavior. So we're all used to basically making
- 11:11purchases and acquisitions this way, so we're not changing user behavior. We're just
- 11:18changing the infrastructure that processes those transactions and makes those transactions transparent. All right,
- 11:24anyway, fascinating, So where do we find you? How do we
- 11:28connect to with to go on the limp? Yeah, you can get us
- 11:30at wishes dot eg. If you go to wishes dot im and see you
- 11:35can get on the waiting list or we are we are super close to launch.
- 11:37We've been building this for about a year and a half and uh yeah,
- 11:43I mean super super excited about the product, super excited about where this
- 11:48is going to be changing charitable giving. And if you want to find me
- 11:50directly, you can get me a Chase at Chase Armer on LinkedIn. I'm
- 11:56always available to answer questions or look up for link for LinkedIn for so search
- 12:00partnerships as well. So all right, really exciting. Wish you the best
- 12:03on this and I'm going to check it out myself. Got a question for
- 12:07Chase myself, shoot me an email k l acrylots dot com and the link
- 12:13to this site is in the show notes this interview on Financial Survival Network dot
- 12:18com. While you're there, sign up for your free newsletter, Chase.
- 12:22Wish you the best and we'll be following your progress. Thanks Sar, thanks
- 12:26for listening to Carrie Letz's Financial Survival Network, your solution to today's trying times.
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