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Browns at Panthers: Game Reactions - Shedeur Sanders Impresses in Rookie Debut - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 8/10/25 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, you guys are welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just happy to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, especially now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're all, I guess you guys like me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've just been dying for some action or something to watch on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing you know during the week or on the weekend and now that football season started so I think we all could put a smile on our face and everybody just be happy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it's super nice to have something to talk about that we've actually watched no more speculation and we're just guessing and I guess just jump right into the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What were you takeaways from that game?
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[SPEAKER_04]: How impressed with you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Were you with Shadour and I guess just the team is in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, anytime you can get a win, I think it's just great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what preseason is all about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, you're trying to bring the boys together, get them ready for the regular season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a little bit disappointed pretty much throughout the week because, you know, I've always thought that this kid should do or was a good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew he could play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me personally, I'm just surprised he failed to us at number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was a little bit afraid because when Pittsburgh was getting ready to pick, I said, oh my God, they're gonna take this kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna get him and they pass it up on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was really, really happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And but I'm glad he's on our football team and on my show I said You watch and see what I tell you I said this kid You know, I don't know when but at some part during the season I said this kid is gonna take over he's gonna start because he could play I mean he really can I don't know why you look at a lot of people
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say they're against him, but they don't like him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you look at it, you look at his background and the kid has always been playing football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it all starts with this, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dad, Dea, and the kid has been going through a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure you guys have heard the story of Dea with his health problems and everything he's had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, all that in the back of his mind, and he's still trying to come here, and he's still trying to learn the system, learn the plays, and I was just really excited watching him play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got goosebumps because the way he's handled
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[SPEAKER_01]: the office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was he was poised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever he had to tuck it and run, he was able to run with the football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know you guys saw the same thing I saw when some of the throws he made.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you guys see the one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it was what three defenders was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I put my hands on my ass for a second.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Then the family started training here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I realized it was safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think see, and a lot of people, I'm not want to believe that you have to take him sit on him for like two or three years and then see what happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know me, they didn't do that to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They threw me in the fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've struggled to believe that you're gonna make some mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No problem, but no doubt about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you learn from those mistakes and you're not gonna do anything but get better, better, better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I talk about me and I said, I remember my was a work at my work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to play against uh, uh, land swan, uh, John's doll or at the, you know, ups.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've said, hey, you got to sink or swim, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have branched, you know, it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But overall, I'm excited with the way we play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm not crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's still pre-season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the good thing about it, I mean, we played against some of their starters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which was really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have Jerry Judy was not out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the starters were not on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really, really hype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just happy right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had some of the things, well one, the people don't like him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand the hate because he has confidence and I see confidence without being overly arrogant.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every since he stepped foot into Cleveland, he's been humble, putting in the work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, to me, he's everything you went in a rookie quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A guy who can be the face of your franchise, the moment's not too big.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You used to the light, so I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've been big on him since about halfway through college football season last year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I started being like, I think this could be the guy that rounds.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would have been all for if we took him a number two overall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, of getting him in the fifth round.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know one of my biggest takeaways from the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: obviously from from snap to past like we know how accurate he is and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But all we've heard is how Dylan Gabriel and these other guys are so much further ahead of him in terms of all like the pre-snap stuff and in now the huddle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are no problems in now the huddle smooth smooth operation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have one pre-snap penalty and that was when we started having third and fourth and fifth guys and there like I thought it seemed like a totally super smooth operation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No hiccups.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was the stuff I came away impressed with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I've heard the same chat or and and everything about dealing and and and again, I'm
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Dylan is on our team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want to see all of them do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see him do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little bit shocked when we drafted the kid with the third pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little bit shocked, but we did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's with us right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we all know that this kid can play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they can say what they want to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all know he can play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They talk about being cocky and confident.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that was a crime, when I came out, I would be in jail, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't care who I was playing against.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna beat you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna, I don't care what you say I am the man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just the way I thought you have to believe that because the guys you're going against, they're good too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought he was very, very humble after the game because if you listen to some of the things in the comments he made, he said, look, I think I play well, but I still know that I still have to grow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still know that there's things that I could do better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm like you, I thought what he said was just right on point and right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I can't wait to see more of this capsule.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yeah, when they were talking to him about his performance, the reporter, she was kind of like, hey, that was a great performance.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And he was like, no, not really.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You could just tell he was very disappointed because it wasn't to his standard.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're all sitting here going sweet.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like, look good.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is going to open for him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And he's expecting more.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, if there was ever a moment, like, pre snap or post snap that he didn't know what was going on, he shared it and showed it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It looked like he was calm, cool, collected the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows and understands that he can get better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that there's a better Sanders, just sure, there's a better version of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's willing to say, hey, you guys just wait, you think what you saw there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to get better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited about the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: still I'm cautious oh yeah because uh you know we all get excited at this time every year whenever we get ready to start with your moves excited last year at this time and look what happened we only won three games but uh I just I just think this team right now let's just fly under the radar a little bit and and just get ready and see what happens
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, uh, it's got to be, I didn't obviously watch him much when he was a Jackson State because they weren't on TV around here, but this has got to be the first time he's played with, like, you know, an offensive line that can give him a little bit of time, uh, any kind of running game he had, almost no running game at Colorado.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously he had Travis Hunter, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now he's throwing to David, Joker, eventually, hopefully, Jerry, Judy, other NFL wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we've seen him play it such a high level when not to call everybody around him scrubs or anything, but he's been having to carry a lot of the load.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, in terms of the teams he's played on, and now he gets to play behind an offensive line that can give him a little bit of time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He gets to turn around and hand it to a running back and get him four or five yards.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think not only is he can elevate us but the players around him I think like it's a match between heaven and my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well I think so too and you hit it right on the head obviously we know Jared Judy is a is a number one receiver I mean some of the things that he can do is unbelievable we need someone else to step up we have I can't wait to watch and hopefully you know I know he's hurt right now and
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get such a tailman, being big target.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, big, big, big target.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you talk about the tight end of the joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a kid right there who we all know him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves to come out every gate, what it's sure does.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If I look like that, I'll do that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll do the podcast like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I said, David, you do what you want to do, babe, as long as you take care of what you're going to take care of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about the kid from, that looked pretty good, the kid from a Kent state?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for a floor floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I hope it's, it looked like a hamster and we did a whole dead a little bit, but just the one arm catch in this kid, man, you know he reminds me, a guy that used to be on our team that we played with, the guy by the name of Brian Brennan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I used to say about Brian Brennan, I said, Brian Brennan could catch a BB in the dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how good his hands were, and I knew because I used to go against him all the time in practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, there's a lot of, and then you talk about the runnin' backs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this kid from Tennessee?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a Samsung.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm telling you guys now, this kid can run, this kid can play too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, there's a lot of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bryce spots on this team obviously I always say the game of football is played and control up front with the offensive defensive line and our offensive line I think with Joe Patonio leading the way these guys really really have to cover have you guys had a chance to do
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[SPEAKER_07]: To kind of talk to the starters, you know, obviously he didn't have the starting offensive line receivers any of the first string guys.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I keep seeing people online say guys, it was a preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Why are we getting so hyped about it?
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is the first time he's ever gone against it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And like everybody on the Panthers, whether it was second or third, they're all NFL players.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's only ever played against college guys.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Before this is the first time he's gotten this opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it didn't look too big for him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It didn't look too challenging or overwhelming.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He stepped right in and did what he's always done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I said, I knew I wasn't going to be too big for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was having some problems and trying to figure out why we were not giving this kid the reps or some reps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know we have a lot of quarterbacks on this football team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to give all those guys reps and not give this kid any reps, I don't know what the hell are we doing over there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
17:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think about it.
17:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We pretty much just threw him into the fire without
17:42
[SPEAKER_01]: any reps or anything like that.
17:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and look all of this kid respond.
17:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not going to get scrubs out there.
17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going against their first defense.
17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And look how he performed.
17:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Look how he handled this stuff just like you said.
17:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I.
17:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I was the guy who was driving me home a way up here and he said, he said to me, he's an emperor.
18:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, you went out on a limb talking about this kid and how you felt about him.
18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, you know, he's just watching play and you could tell if you could play or not.
18:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he is just that simple either you can play or you can't play and this kid can play.
18:22
[SPEAKER_05]: We were excited just to see him in like some live game reps like we were trying we went into it into this pre-season game going like you got a temper expectations but like let's see you know a throw or two where you're like hey maybe you know maybe this kids got it you threw you saw multiple throws like that where you got it you had to go away from it
18:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I just felt like it was so refreshing just to see nice nice throws and call it in quarterback play lining them up.
18:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It was just it was it was fun to watch your Browns game.
18:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It was the first time in a long time where I was watching the game and I was having a good time even though it was a free season.
18:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I was enjoying myself.
19:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm texting these guys talking about we found our guys
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He's an EL from the matrix, you know, I'm losing my mind, you know, but know that he was I knew he was shifty little fast there, but man some of the moves that he had to put on to a getaway from like that edge rusher.
19:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a double spin.
19:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the kid is, and it's just funny.
19:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're all talking about him.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And me and Ozzy was talking to you.
19:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he was watching, you know, he act like he was, so he called me.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he said, dude, I said, yeah, I said, we said, we knew he could play.
19:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, we knew he could play so well.
19:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And because, you know, I think the second game, the first game we opened with the Bengals here, and then I think we go to Baltimore.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It was how we go to them.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I say, well, that's all right.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope he's ready or whatever before you.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we know about Flacco.
20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like Flacco.
20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't have a problem with
20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Flacco starting this season.
20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no problem right whatsoever.
20:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And because Flacco, we've watched him and, you know, as it was the one that drafted Flacco too.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But one day we know the Flacco, he's got to throw some to us.
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It has been thrown so high to be.
20:27
[SPEAKER_07]: This is so true.
20:27
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's hope for a while.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He can hold us up for a little bit, but until somebody else is ready, one of those quarterbacks we have.
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, we got Picken, who is listed on the Dept.
20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: George's number two, and then I think Dylan is number three, and then we got Chador, who is number four, and Watson was number five, but we run in Thailand.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So, he's number five, and then Watson is number six.
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Watson I think is on the PUP.
20:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, less.
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So, there we go.
20:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I feel pretty confident saying hot and leaves just going to be a camp arm.
21:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, slightly.
21:03
[SPEAKER_04]: So I guess in terms of like the main four with Joe, Kenny, Dylan and should do or you can't imagine they're going to take all four into the who do you think's going to be the odd one out?
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, that's gonna be, that's a good question and you're right by Tyler.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think the only reason why we brought him in and because we had some of the guys that got hurt.
21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but I think somebody's gonna be trade bait and I think it's either gonna be picking or dealing.
21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They might keep dealing because Dylan is their third round pick and only when you draft the guy that high.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: you're going to give him every opportunity to make this team.
21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Dylan, I mean, he can play now.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't he beat Ohio State?
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see us keeping three quarter bags and pick it
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it wouldn't surprise me.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: If we can see him improve or something, if we can, you know, maybe somebody will want him and we'll trade him or something.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, obviously, you know, what is this third, fourth year for him?
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He was your number one pick for the Pittsburgh field.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Still just having showed anything, right?
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And who knows?
22:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe he's, I don't know, but I can say that I'm not against any of them.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all on our team right now.
22:39
[SPEAKER_01]: They're Cleveland Browns and I'm behind each and everyone.
22:42
[SPEAKER_04]: If there was, I thought if there was a play color that Kenny Pickett could succeed under it would be Kevin.
22:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he would fit into the system really well and then he gets banged up and now he's hurt and I never realized how many injuries he's kind of sustained throughout his career until he got banged up.
23:00
[SPEAKER_04]: He's missed a lot of time with injuries and it's one of those things where
23:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I almost feel like if he could have played well in this preseason and showed out he would have been like the Saints need a quarterback.
23:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, some of these teams need another guy and he's kind of he's doing us a disservice.
23:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know obviously he didn't hear it on purpose.
23:15
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just being the other Rams might need a quarterback depending on Stafford's back and that ruptured destroy whatever.
23:20
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I think it's funny that you mentioned Kevin and his offense and the play.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, am I mistaken?
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Kevin wasn't going to call the, Kevin is called the police.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was funny because that was doesn't before the season Who's the guy we got rid of that was calling play Ken doors?
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I said a kid doors Who if Kevin when it came to me half way through the season Toby?
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He was giving me the play call and I'll tell him no no no no no no no no, I don't know part of them
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see what's going to happen with that with a while you know as soon as he gave it to him.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody was go get out of here, but yeah, I agree with you Kevin.
24:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a way with the quarterbacks and if anyone
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: can get pick it going, I think he can't.
24:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like I said, I'm excited.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.
24:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
24:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
24:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, thanks for sitting down with us.
24:18
[SPEAKER_07]: They're telling us they need you out back.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys are, you guys are so welcome.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say, thank you guys for having me and go proud.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's our pleasure.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
24:25
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we want to obviously thank Hanford.
25:23
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it was awesome.
25:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a lot of guys in the chat talking about how big a Hanford Dixon Phoenix you guys were.
25:30
[SPEAKER_04]: So that was really awesome.
25:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you're in this chat and you happen to be, you know, driving distance to Dover Island.
25:36
[SPEAKER_04]: You can come meet Hanford Dixon.
25:38
[SPEAKER_04]: We're here at Shenanigan's bar and drill in Dover, Iowa for the Tuscaras County Browns backers event.
25:43
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're local and you want to meet Hanford today's your day to do it, uh, twenty dollar autographs, taking pictures, all that good stuff, kind of cool raffles.
25:52
[SPEAKER_04]: We're super appreciative that we got to sit down and that was awesome.
25:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And also he also has his own podcast.
25:57
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26:00
[SPEAKER_04]: So we can keep talking about the game there.
26:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
26:02
[SPEAKER_07]: The one thing I wanted to throw out real quick before we go more game stuff is just we'll you guys be shocked at all if I believe training can't pick up again tomorrow.
26:10
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll be shocked if it comes right back on social media on X and it's Shidore Sanders back to fourth team.
26:15
[SPEAKER_07]: We're at our string quarterback.
26:17
[SPEAKER_04]: This is one of those things where if that happens.
26:20
[SPEAKER_04]: the internet will literally melt.
26:22
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's going to, I think it's going to happen.
26:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it'll be absolutely.
26:26
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, you're going to see Zach Jackson posting tomorrow saying, hey, you know, it's business as usual.
26:30
[SPEAKER_07]: Should worst take in the, you know, third string reps and Dylan's mixing with the ones and everyone's going to be pissed.
26:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I just don't understand how you can do it.
26:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I can do it.
26:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially.
26:40
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like Dylan Gabriel has been in camp balling out.
26:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, like, in similar Kenny Pickett, and I'm getting the sense that Kenny Pickett's hamstring injury is a lot more serious than whatever that would be.
26:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, advertised, Jotamas kind of mentioned that that it was a is like a severe hamstring injury or I forget the exact word to use, but basically it's a tougher injury than we thought it was.
27:07
[SPEAKER_04]: But neither one of these guys have been in camp just dominating, being like, oh, this is, these guys are playing really well.
27:14
[SPEAKER_04]: They've, by all accounts, they both sucked.
27:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
27:19
[SPEAKER_04]: People are talking about down Gabriel practice coming to a halt when he's in the game.
27:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the camera's moving a lot right now.
27:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
27:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And so then if you got Shador who can come out and do this in game action, and I,
27:34
[SPEAKER_04]: He started with two's and three's going against ones.
27:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think the Browns looked overly great in that first quarter when our two's and three's were playing against the Panthers.
27:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Now we weren't getting our asses beat and we were kind of holding our own.
27:47
[SPEAKER_04]: But we looked like it was a struggle to kind of get going.
27:51
[SPEAKER_04]: But then as soon as the Panthers put in their two's and three's, we took them behind the wood shed.
27:56
[SPEAKER_04]: you know like once it became an even playing field we ran away with it and we held our own with guys second and third string guys in a rookie quarterback getting his first action it was seven nothing in that first quarter yep it was a seven seven I don't remember when we got our first touchdown of it but either way
28:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I came away and pressed with the team in generally, pre-snap poundies weren't an issue.
28:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I had the one pre-snap on her.
28:22
[SPEAKER_04]: There was one kind of knucklehead play call, where it was fourth and one, and we went empty.
28:29
[SPEAKER_04]: You got a rookie quarterback who hasn't been getting reps, and you're going to put him in empty and fourth and one where he's like, if there's ever time where you got to be able to pre-snap, recognize pressure, slide protection that, know your hot checks,
28:43
[SPEAKER_04]: That's when you need to know it, all right.
28:45
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're just, you just put them out there on fourth and one, you're like, well, let's see if you remember this.
28:49
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
28:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I didn't, I didn't like that play called, but I thought overall, like the Browns is a whole special team's like, I'll say it doesn't hop into you.
28:59
[SPEAKER_04]: You got to get rid of.
29:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
29:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
29:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you got to work the same thing.
29:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but the, uh,
29:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought the special team was a great.
29:08
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
29:09
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
29:10
[SPEAKER_07]: And Luke Floria, so he kind of had an issue of returning that one punt.
29:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
29:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Kind of mouth it a little bit.
29:16
[SPEAKER_07]: And then he was just, you can tell he was trying too hard.
29:18
[SPEAKER_07]: But then he came back and made that sweet one hand a grab on offense.
29:21
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, Kages, don't wallow in your mistakes.
29:23
[SPEAKER_07]: Get back, focus and have that you to play.
29:26
[SPEAKER_05]: They said like an injury update on him.
29:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I have everything.
29:29
[SPEAKER_05]: That was smart.
29:30
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why I'm a little worried about like a few zinjured.
29:33
[SPEAKER_05]: He was kind of like on a friend.
29:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, to talk about, though, you know, how they didn't look as great when it was R-two's and three's against their ones.
29:41
[SPEAKER_07]: And then people want to blame that on, you know, what should or didn't do so well when it was their ones.
29:46
[SPEAKER_07]: The protection wasn't as good because it's R-second and third guy's going against their first drink.
29:51
[SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't think you said with the intro.
29:52
[SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't have Jerry Drew.
29:53
[SPEAKER_07]: He's throwing to Kian Davis, a UDFA that not going to make this team probably, right?
29:58
[SPEAKER_07]: And probably on practice ward, but nobody knows who he is.
30:00
[SPEAKER_07]: And he's the one making the plays in the end.
30:02
[SPEAKER_07]: So imagine if he's throwing to Jerry Judy.
30:03
[SPEAKER_04]: He's standing off to a running back who actually turned out to have a pretty good game.
30:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I thought a good boy.
30:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he looked great.
30:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he took his first carry.
30:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, who's running the ball right now?
30:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
30:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I was, you know, where you guys, I guess we're kind of texting about this, but
30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: What did it say to you about the fact like the lack of playing time for Dylan Simpson?
30:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess there's a couple ways you could take it like he's not good or something's going on or they're like okay this guy's a baller he's gonna be playing a lot so he's not playing in the the preseason.
30:34
[SPEAKER_05]: I would so I don't know the answer.
30:37
[SPEAKER_05]: But what I would say is based on what I thought going into the season.
30:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought that Samsung could have been a legit way higher up pick for, you know what I mean?
30:45
[SPEAKER_05]: The guy has just done running back.
30:47
[SPEAKER_05]: He can do it all.
30:47
[SPEAKER_05]: His film and Tennessee's crazy girl.
30:51
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's one of those things for me.
30:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I want to believe that they're saving him.
30:57
[SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?
30:58
[SPEAKER_05]: That he will be the hopefully one when things get going.
31:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I kind of took that to is, let's see, Sam says not getting many carries out here.
31:06
[SPEAKER_07]: And they said they were going to hold out the starters for this game.
31:10
[SPEAKER_07]: And he got what eight snaps or something.
31:12
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought in two carries, two carries.
31:13
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought, OK, they're probably setting him aside.
31:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Like this is going to be one of our lead guys.
31:17
[SPEAKER_07]: And it kind of gave me bad feels about Quanchan.
31:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they also gave me bad feels that Pierre Strong and Jerome Ford were also out.
31:25
[SPEAKER_05]: And your strong was injured, right?
31:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm just saying, you know, if it if it comes out to the starters or out kind of thing, Ford's sitting out also, I would say Ford's.
31:37
[SPEAKER_07]: Prenciled in is the starter, right?
31:38
[SPEAKER_07]: And also he started training camp with an injury.
31:40
[SPEAKER_07]: So I probably still easing him into action and stuff, but your strong was out with an injury in this one.
31:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sort of just operating under the assumption that clinch on judgekins will never play for the Browns.
31:51
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just kind of why I'm at right now.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Sucks, no?
31:54
[SPEAKER_04]: There's sucks real bad.
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: But no, I thought a money, Marshall had a really good game.
31:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Another guy who I actually super impressed with was Gage Larvedine.
32:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
32:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
32:03
[SPEAKER_07]: That could ask the team, right?
32:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
32:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I know he's little.
32:06
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not trying to pump him up like an Austin walk-ins target merchant in the preseason.
32:14
[SPEAKER_04]: He just looks very fast.
32:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Catches everything.
32:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I loved him on the jet sweep.
32:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
32:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Put his foot in the ground, got north and south.
32:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, he knew it was the end zone was there.
32:23
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't string it out and just try to get up.
32:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, he was like, north and south.
32:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I see the opportunity to get it.
32:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Nice note.
32:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Super impressed with him, Maggie.
32:32
[SPEAKER_05]: And his name continues to come up every day, Cam.
32:34
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not even like all, hey, once here in a while, you might see a little video of him every day.
32:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Cleveland rounds are putting out footage on him.
32:41
[SPEAKER_05]: We're, you know, it's a touchdown or it's a nice, you know, round catch.
32:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how you can keep him off the team.
32:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Right now.
32:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I mean, what are you going to do?
32:50
[SPEAKER_07]: You're going to keep Dave at all over here.
32:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
32:53
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one thing.
32:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Final year of his rookie contract.
32:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Still injured.
32:55
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't want to say a rational, but I'm like, at this point, I'm like, I kind of know what we haven't dated though.
33:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I do this.
33:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
33:02
[SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?
33:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So if I said a rational, okay, thank you.
33:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate that.
33:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes I feel like you know, and it ain't okay.
33:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
33:08
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're going to give it the opportunity, give the opportunity to the guy that's showing right now.
33:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I, I'll tell you a guy who I wasn't impressed with was Jonathan Johnson.
33:19
[SPEAKER_04]: First pass off the hands.
33:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was just like we're dropping balls already vintage.
33:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you want to jump into it?
33:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not obviously I'm not selling them after one preseason game, especially a preseason game where he didn't play it.
33:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I only got two targets, but I was like, come on, man.
33:35
[SPEAKER_04]: You're the best wide receiver he's got out there right now at the start of this game.
33:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And he hits you right in the hands on a slant in it.
33:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You just break off your hands.
33:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, come on.
33:46
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like the one guy out there right now that he should be able to depend on him.
33:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right.
33:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was impressed.
33:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I was impressed with Larby Dane for you obviously.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Marshall defensively.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Carson's Westerner is a freaking baller.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All over the place like he
34:05
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a stud.
34:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Is he his stat?
34:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, like half of the place he was in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had the tackles.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thirteen abs.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He made six tackles and four of them were solo.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And this is the kid who led the FBS last year with ninety solo tackles on the year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's in coverage some of the time.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he had a nice coverage play.
34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, super impressive.
34:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Mason Graham getting double team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, and still wreck it.
34:28
[SPEAKER_04]: It's still a good luck double teaming him when he's playing next to Miles Garrett.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought double dog dairy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How much is the whole defense of the line in general?
34:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Alex right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought yes.
34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: There is the pressure was there.
34:39
[SPEAKER_04]: This is one of those things too where we were I won't say we like we weren't like bend and break but like we were given a place obviously the Panthers were playing with all their starters and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we really hope seven points like right the or ten and then it'll be ten but they're like you've won touchdown.
34:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought the defense like
34:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Every time I was like, oh, uh, Panthers are starting to move the ball a little bit.
35:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Next the end of their pun.
35:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they'd pick up ten or fifteen yards, but then it would hold them to a pun.
35:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, man, defense.
35:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the defense isn't going to be, well, this is without my nails.
35:12
[SPEAKER_07]: This is without Grant Delpit dead as a ward.
35:15
[SPEAKER_07]: Who was the UDFA?
35:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Was it Dom Jones?
35:17
[SPEAKER_07]: I think the UDFA corner back later in the second half game or whatever, but it was really holding his own and it just made me a little more
35:25
[SPEAKER_07]: confident in the depth, at least on that side of the ball.
35:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me last year we were like, man, that doesn't look like there's any depth, right?
35:31
[SPEAKER_07]: As long as, uh, what's the space, Ray Sean Jank has doesn't get kicked out every game in the first quarter.
35:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you, another guy who popped off with the defense on tape for me was Winston Reed.
35:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
35:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
35:43
[SPEAKER_04]: If I played really well, and who is?
35:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't think of his name now.
35:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It sucks.
35:47
[SPEAKER_04]: The defensive tackle on our kickoff team.
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[SPEAKER_07]: defensive tackle on kickoff.
35:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because they kept talking about it on the broadcast.
35:57
[SPEAKER_04]: He was, he was like, you made every single tackle on our kickoff team.
36:01
[SPEAKER_04]: He said defensive tackle and they were like, what is this guy doing?
36:05
[SPEAKER_04]: How is he making it?
36:06
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't Ralph was it Ralph?
36:07
[SPEAKER_07]: All that's all him get on that what he don't fell down and he was the second guy.
36:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Help me out.
36:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Help me out here in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If anybody, if anybody remembers this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Thomas, they kept talking about it.
36:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Every time we kicked off, this guy did like me.
36:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, was it?
36:20
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't.
36:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, Aden Huntington is an edge.
36:23
[SPEAKER_04]: But he was, I forget who was, but I was like, who is this guy?
36:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is he still?
36:27
[SPEAKER_04]: We're still asking.
36:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is he running down the field?
36:29
[SPEAKER_04]: He was still asking who he is.
36:30
[SPEAKER_04]: He was, oh, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was,
36:40
[SPEAKER_04]: like wrecking people.
36:41
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, man, our special teams, you know, has me a little bit jazzed right now.
36:45
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a guy that I think might make the team, um, because he plead plays inside outside.
36:49
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
36:49
[SPEAKER_07]: So not just a D.T., but I mean.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if you have a lot of teams play on top of that.
36:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Did shout out to Royce from the chat, by the way, help me out with that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's nice.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Let's talk Dustin Hopkins.
38:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
38:15
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, do we have to?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think, I just don't see a world in which you can go into the season with him.
38:23
[SPEAKER_07]: The first, what we had two field goal, fourth down opportunities where we could have kicked field goals and we went for it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I just kept thinking, okay, I know it's pre-season, especially the first one, first one, you know, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So the kids got it.
38:35
[SPEAKER_07]: But, and then the second time, like, do they just not want to put Dustin Hawkins out here just in case he does suck, and then whenever he came out to kick that DAT,
38:43
[SPEAKER_04]: So he texted like, what is going on with Dustin Hopkins?
38:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, what?
38:50
[SPEAKER_04]: He made it.
38:51
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, yeah, but he almost missed it.
38:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I'm not going to complain about guys who make kicks.
38:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, did you see it?
38:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I'm like, looking online and everybody's going, he missed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He missed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't even close.
39:02
[SPEAKER_04]: How did they, they gave it to him?
39:03
[SPEAKER_04]: How did they make it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: How did they say, they gave it to him?
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[SPEAKER_04]: for every day.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They, I mean, Shador took his helmet off, the one play that he got sacked, the yellow canella, and Tommy Reese's back to go, and you can't take your helmet off.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The rough didn't see that either, so he was preseason, but he missed the first kick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he was technically three or four, but if a official had eyes, he was two or four on extra points.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So let me present it to you like this, Blake.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll ask you a question.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Would you rather have Dustin Hopkins?
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[SPEAKER_05]: and whatever's going on with them, or just any kicker.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Any kicker?
39:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Any kicker?
39:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Any kicker?
39:40
[SPEAKER_05]: We could hit this already, and it's terrifying, but I know what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Any kicker?
39:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I just watched the guy from Jacksonville, make a seven against your field goal, and he's not getting tired.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Park kicker can't make an extra point with any kind of consistency.
39:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Go get the kid me interviewed.
39:55
[SPEAKER_04]: It was in the U.S.
39:56
[SPEAKER_04]: L. Who was on the train?
39:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, go go him.
39:59
[SPEAKER_05]: What's he didn't make a legal last year?
40:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Wasn't kicking in the lead?
40:03
[SPEAKER_07]: He put it for the defenders.
40:04
[SPEAKER_07]: They just won the championship.
40:05
[SPEAKER_07]: I've actually got the CQ one to come on the show here one these days.
40:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey man, what do we got to do?
40:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Do we got to start the Matt McCrain to Cleveland campaign right here on this podcast?
40:12
[SPEAKER_04]: What's because, you know, with Hopkins, it was okay.
40:15
[SPEAKER_07]: So last year, obviously, the confidence wasn't there.
40:18
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like, maybe he's still dealing with the injury hanging.
40:20
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's like, well, then get somebody else in here to make it for you.
40:23
[SPEAKER_07]: And then it's like, okay, remember he didn't kick at all in training camp until just this past week, I think the last day of open to the public, he actually did some kicking drills, correct.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like, why aren't they letting him kick vocals in front of people?
40:36
[SPEAKER_04]: What is wrong with this guy?
40:37
[SPEAKER_04]: It's one of those things where we are gonna, we need to be able to make field goals consistently in our coach needs to have the confidence to be able to call our guy out there and kick them and not have to go for four downs because you solar scoring good that plummet so much last year in part because we couldn't kick field goals.
40:55
[SPEAKER_04]: How many times were we getting to the, you know, the inside the thirty and come away with nothing because we missed a field goal and it's just the offense is gonna be
41:05
[SPEAKER_04]: More than likely tough to watch as it is, we need every point we can get.
41:09
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't need to be good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're the world's world's fourth down team.
41:13
[SPEAKER_04]: We can't go for it on fourth down every time.
41:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Our percentage is six percent since the mainsky's been here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like we have to get a kicker.
41:21
[SPEAKER_05]: That's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's thanks to, because two years ago, we went through a year of KD or, you know,
41:28
[SPEAKER_05]: who knows who it's gonna be then we get you know Hopkins and he for a year he was the guy that he walked out there and you're like we're winning this game and then it was like the complete opposite last year I know last year they were saying they never really said what was going on they said a lot of stuff at home was going on like family if whether it's health or what was going on so if you know kickings a lot of mental but if the guy is not mentally there
41:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is a business.
41:53
[SPEAKER_05]: We talk about it all the time.
41:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a business.
41:54
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're not performing, it just sucks.
41:57
[SPEAKER_05]: It'll be starting to change.
41:58
[SPEAKER_05]: You're just caught right now.
41:59
[SPEAKER_07]: And this is kind of like what the Browns do though.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Even if a guy in the kind of goes to like Dylan Gabriel being that, you're still taking first year reps, even if they're not performing, they stick with them longer than they should.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's fair.
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[SPEAKER_07]: or don't make the move when they need to, and it ends up blown up in the face like, Lash, you need it to replace Hawkins.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You didn't, and we just continue to miss Kicks all season long.
42:19
[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just know we don't need, though.
42:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a punter.
42:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
42:23
[SPEAKER_04]: No kidding.
42:24
[SPEAKER_04]: You can be still man.
42:25
[SPEAKER_04]: He left off right where he had five punts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: for two hundred and fifty five yards, you know, fifty one yard average.
42:34
[SPEAKER_04]: He picked up right where he left off.
42:37
[SPEAKER_04]: He freaking booting it, putting it inside the tent, basically led to our first points on the muffler.
42:45
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a, like a field position flipper.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every time he steps on to the field, we can be backed up inside our own twenty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that doesn't mean anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They'll be backed up inside their twenty because he's going to boot it eighty yards somehow.
42:57
[SPEAKER_04]: It's nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It reminds me of, uh, for a long time, the Brown's Best Player outside of Field Dawson was Chris Cardakio, a hunter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
43:05
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I feel like we're right back.
43:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost like we're right back to it.
43:08
[SPEAKER_04]: If we didn't have Miles Garrett, our Best Player would be Bojo.
43:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even try to say his last name anymore.
43:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Orcas.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Orcas.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's good.
43:14
[SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
43:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Did anybody else catch your guys' attention?
43:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Anything else you guys think we need to get into here?
43:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I was, go ahead.
43:21
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you got it.
43:22
[SPEAKER_05]: I just, in general, I went away from the game.
43:25
[SPEAKER_05]: You've already touched on it.
43:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, sure Sanders.
43:27
[SPEAKER_05]: That was super impressive.
43:29
[SPEAKER_05]: That was awesome.
43:30
[SPEAKER_05]: But I just came away with how the command of the offense was.
43:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Just how buttoned up they looked.
43:36
[SPEAKER_05]: The other thing was we were terrified all week.
43:39
[SPEAKER_05]: It was just going to be a complete disaster.
43:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It was none of that.
43:43
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a very, very refreshing.
43:46
[SPEAKER_07]: It was, I mean, especially after the offense that we had to endure last year.
43:50
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it was hard to watch.
43:52
[SPEAKER_07]: Nobody knew what they were doing.
43:53
[SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, so much has been debated and argued about online and on all these shows and podcasts and stuff about, was he set up to fail?
44:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Did they, you know, throw them out there, throw them to the wall, or whatever.
44:05
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, I think the progression of how it all played out.
44:08
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they can't control the injuries.
44:10
[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He was the only one left standing when it came to this first preseason game.
44:16
[SPEAKER_07]: and I just all the narratives about he's so far behind in the classroom he's now up to speed on the you know the terminology and the pre-snaps stuff I think we can quit talking about that because it looks like he's okay hey which to me then says there's no reason to keep him from getting some of these reps right because um
44:36
[SPEAKER_04]: that the biggest reason we heard why he wasn't getting those reps is because they needed to get him up to speed on all this other stuff.
44:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he seems like he's up to speed.
44:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:44
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, uh, at least up to speed enough to let him go get some real reps.
44:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't understand.
44:49
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you tell the kid after he comes out and plays like that?
44:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And but okay, back over through under the janitors.
44:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
44:55
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
44:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, well, what do I have to do then to get a shot to be able to get some meaningful reps?
45:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm with Hanford.
45:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm totally still on board with Joe Flacco being the best one to start.
45:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
45:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he gives
45:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He gives you the best chance to win week one.
45:13
[SPEAKER_04]: He gives your vets the most to play for week one.
45:17
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think as this season inevitably starts to slip away from us, or without being too negative here, there should be a transition to the rookie quarterback that we need to see play before we draft another one next year.
45:33
[SPEAKER_04]: And to me, that rookie quarterback undoubtedly should be should or Sanders.
45:37
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no question.
45:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll be living if he's just right back to the bottom of the barrel.
45:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that's what we got to prepare for though.
45:49
[SPEAKER_07]: And then obviously we'll do a preview show later in the week for the Philly Philadelphia game on Saturday.
45:55
[SPEAKER_07]: But long as Dylan Gabriel's hamstring isn't holding him out this week and everything he can practice, I mean, I would strongly expect him to be in the game, potentially start that game if they're not going to start Joe Flackov.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Can he pick it is as injured as they say?
46:09
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it'd be Dylan Gabriel before she door.
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[SPEAKER_07]: still so I'm not saying it should be guys so don't tear me apart.
46:14
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just saying that's what I expect.
46:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm with you kind of because as much as I'm like I don't think there's to me it's no doubt in my mind what's going on like I don't know how you watch that and go.
46:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, don't give rules ahead of shit or say there's other depth chart, but like
46:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess we haven't seen him in, we don't have a game action to compare Shador to Dylan, but we have game action to do our compared to what the reports were hearing out of camp and video of what's going on, you know what I mean?
46:43
[SPEAKER_04]: What if Dylan Gabriel comes out and says healthy enough to practice this week, he starts this game.
46:48
[SPEAKER_04]: and he's not good, struggles, mightily.
46:51
[SPEAKER_04]: What are the Browns do?
46:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Are they willing to admit to themselves that this guy is better than this guy?
46:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Even though we fell in love with this guy, and we weren't even going to draft this guy until it became the value was just too much to turn away from.
47:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, like, will they be willing to do that?
47:08
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to.
47:09
[SPEAKER_05]: You absolutely, if they don't do that, they're doing a disservice to the team, the players on the team.
47:14
[SPEAKER_07]: For sure.
47:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a complete disservice.
47:16
[SPEAKER_07]: The organization, I mean, I would question everything on the top.
47:19
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I talked to Jake Burns last week from Brownstone Breakdown, and I mean, he's just very much on the
47:25
[SPEAKER_07]: the stance that I know I see the bots in there.
47:27
[SPEAKER_07]: He's very much on the stance that like this team can't afford to not put the best quarter back on the field and I get where he's coming from but at the same time if the coaching staff and for an office are guaranteed their spots and they know they're safe and they just they're committed to this Dylan Gabriel thing.
47:43
[SPEAKER_07]: We saw what they did last year.
47:44
[SPEAKER_07]: They did not put the best quarter back off the old every year, right?
47:47
[SPEAKER_07]: It was not a priority.
47:48
[SPEAKER_07]: So I do question whether or not it's actually gonna happen.
47:55
[SPEAKER_07]: These flies in here are nice.
47:56
[SPEAKER_07]: They want to be on the stream so bad.
47:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe lose my train of thought.
48:01
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's one of those things where somebody said the Gabriel Fitz-Better is to fancy skim on paper.
48:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Man, I don't know.
48:10
[SPEAKER_04]: With with should doers ability to be on time and on target in his act.
48:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You're seeing that's kind of like red heavy.
48:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, buddy.
48:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So
48:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be an interesting week and it has a chance to be a tumultuous week on Browns.
48:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you if the reports come out like we all kind of think it's going to happen where he's right back to fourth on the depth chart and he's running in between trash cans and throwing into the water boy.
48:41
[SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing?
48:44
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, we can talk about real quick, too.
48:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Kevin's defense, he's comments after the game the other day.
48:48
[SPEAKER_07]: He was asked, like, is this, you know, Shoulder's performance, is that going to move him up the depth chart or give him some, you know, higher reps or whatever?
48:55
[SPEAKER_07]: And Kevin really worked solid, danced around that question, like, you just need to, you know, see where the injury status is or we really want to go to good evaluation of all our quarterbacks, and it was like, okay, but he's still fourth on that chart.
49:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And defense though, all,
49:09
[SPEAKER_05]: his entire time with the Brown season ever going to hear it out in the media like that.
49:14
[SPEAKER_05]: That should be a behind-the-scenes closed-door conversation in the quarter-meg room.
49:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I did think it was a good sign though that like when she doors out, A.B.
49:21
[SPEAKER_04]: is down on the sideline like talking to him.
49:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So like I don't want to bind to this narrative like that they hate them or they're shunting him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They just wouldn't have to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought that was good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The A.B.
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[SPEAKER_04]: is down there talking to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I just want to see him give it, be given.
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[SPEAKER_04]: a chance because he's clearly earned it and I thought he used the most talented in the room anyways, once we drafted him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So we talked with him for about, are they going to keep all four of these guys?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Will there be a guy traded?
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[SPEAKER_07]: So we got Justin here, not you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Just in the chat said, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm calling for a curveball here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What if they trade Sanders?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'll be pissed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now you might talk about Brown's ex melting down.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That would be terrible.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you mean there's a guy that came in and played reasonable quarterback play.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And actually look like he knew he was doing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then of course, we would trade that guy away so that he could crap on us for the next one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you know, ten, fifteen years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is what the kids are saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I crash out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that'd be it for me, I think.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I hope that doesn't happen, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Same.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's smart.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's smart, Browns.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I know it's not your forte all the time, but be smart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, well, I think we're going to wrap this up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First of all, huge shout out to all, five hundred and sixteen of you watch at least.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A dog's podcast record.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think we've ever had this many people concurrently watching on one live stream.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, we
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[SPEAKER_04]: obviously we're very appreciative of you guys all hanging out with us here middle of the day on a Sunday watching us on your phones or your computers or maybe maybe your TVs but either way wherever you're watching we appreciate that we're also huge shout out to the T County Browns backers and shenanigans here in Dover for hosting letting us set up here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're local to Dover or Philly anywhere that you can get here, they will be here until three o'clock PM today with Hanford Dixon, Dog Adoptions, all the money being right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not all the money, but a significant portion of the money being raised today is going to the Tuscart County Human Society.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They got the top dog Hanford Dixon in-house today for the event.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So come meet Hanford Dixon, adopt yourself a dog, take my dog home for free if you want.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a great event here, and it shenanigans has great food.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, and somebody says, hit the like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure does.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And again, before we jump off here, if you want to play fantasy football with this, you got about a week or so to get signed up, head to join thedogs.com and come to official dog pack member so you can play fantasy football with us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Again, we appreciate you guys being here, and we'll see you guys sometime later this week.
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