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Dr John Lewis, Health Promotion Advisor, · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless.
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Speaker 1: My guest today is someone that I've been talking to
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Speaker 1: for many, many months, and he was recommended to me
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Speaker 1: by one of my very favorite podcast hosts, and her
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Speaker 1: name is Lisa to tom Ty, and she has a
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Speaker 1: podcast called Pushing the Limits. So whenever Lisa calls me
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Speaker 1: or texts me and says there's somebody I want you
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Speaker 1: to meet, I listen. And this was the case with
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Speaker 1: doctor John Lewis. So we had a chat a few
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Speaker 1: months ago and now I'm very excited to have him
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Speaker 1: here so today, So welcome doctor Lewis.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Michelle for having me. It's my pleasure to
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Speaker 2: be here.
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Speaker 1: So well, congratulations on your new baby.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exciting. No sleep though, huh.
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Speaker 2: No sleep, I'd be sleeping right now otherwise already.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Well, I was looking back at our notes
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Speaker 1: and then I've been taking your supplement. So I'm going
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Speaker 1: to talk about those in a moment because I'm so
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Speaker 1: excited to tell you my feedback on them. But I
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Speaker 1: wanted to start off by just asking you to give
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Speaker 1: us a little summary of how you got to where
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Speaker 1: you are today. The journey that you've taken. I know
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Speaker 1: you were very big in exercise and fitness, and just
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Speaker 1: tell us what were some of the most memorable steps
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Speaker 1: that have gotten you to be the human giant that
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Speaker 1: you are today.
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Speaker 2: I would say the very first step was my grandfather
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Speaker 2: pitching baseball to me in the backyard when I was
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Speaker 2: probably three or four years old, and it put me
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Speaker 2: on a track of playing sports most of my childhood,
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Speaker 2: and in my teen years I played pretty much anything
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Speaker 2: with the ball other than soccer. And then after all
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Speaker 2: of that ended in high school and college, I got
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Speaker 2: into drug free competitive bodybuilding and I did that for
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Speaker 2: a few years, and I realized pretty quickly I was
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Speaker 2: not going to make a living as a bodybuilder. As
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Speaker 2: I mentioned, I was drug free, so I wasn't willing
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Speaker 2: to take the risk of using drugs and I didn't
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Speaker 2: think i'd make much money doing it anyway, So that
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Speaker 2: phase didn't last too long. But what that phase of
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Speaker 2: my life did accomplish was that it changed my outlook
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Speaker 2: or my perspective on nutrition, going from most I think
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Speaker 2: most Americans look at food as just for taste, not
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Speaker 2: really considering the impact on health. So it totally changed
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Speaker 2: my perspective on diet and food and how food, just
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Speaker 2: like exercise and physical activity, affects the body, but it
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Speaker 2: still didn't really again it was more of a physical
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Speaker 2: sports performance perspective as opposed to a health performance. But
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Speaker 2: then a number of years later, after I got out
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Speaker 2: of bodybuilding, as I was beginning my research career, I
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Speaker 2: met a couple of people who introduced me to their
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Speaker 2: journeys on polysachrides. And at that point in my life,
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Speaker 2: I didn't really have any great appreciation for sacharides other
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Speaker 2: than being a source of fuel for the cells. That
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Speaker 2: was really all I had learned about them in school,
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Speaker 2: and I didn't really even really consider anything else beyond that.
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Speaker 2: But meeting doctor Reg McDaniel and Barbara Kimley to people
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Speaker 2: who again had profound journeys in their own lives, Doctor
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Speaker 2: Redge on the Alavera side and Barbara on the Rice
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Speaker 2: friend's side, just completely changed my perspective. And so I
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Speaker 2: think a big reason of why I'm sitting here talking
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Speaker 2: to you today and why I get interviewed by other
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Speaker 2: people is because it changed not only my career but
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Speaker 2: my life in the sense of appreciating how these two plants,
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Speaker 2: rice and alavera provide these nutrients that are so beneficial
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Speaker 2: for humankind, and so we ended up conducting Here we
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Speaker 2: are close to twenty years later after meeting doctor reg
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Speaker 2: and Barbara. Here we are my colleagues, and I've conducted
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Speaker 2: all this research. I'm no longer in academics full time,
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Speaker 2: but we conducted all this research that led to the
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Speaker 2: product that I'm now selling today as a businessman. And
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Speaker 2: so I've just had an incredible opportunity of, as the
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Speaker 2: Beatles said, being on this long and winding road, of
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Speaker 2: this journey of nutrition and specifically in polysachrides, and of
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Speaker 2: course still exercise and physical act activity being a very
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Speaker 2: important part of who I am and what I do,
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Speaker 2: but really more focused on the nutrition side and even
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Speaker 2: more specifically the polysachrides and how I'm educating people about
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Speaker 2: these sacharides that you know again, I mean when you
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Speaker 2: think of alvera, most people only think of alvera for
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Speaker 2: a topical solution. They don't even have a clue what
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Speaker 2: taking these polysacrides from alvera can do for them health wise.
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Speaker 2: And so the research we conducted in Alzheimer's multiple sclero HIV,
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Speaker 2: non alcoholic fatty liver disease. We've published some just incredible
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Speaker 2: findings from all of this work, and so here I
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Speaker 2: am today talking to you about this work and our
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Speaker 2: research and polysachrides in my mission.
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Speaker 1: And you've been talking for twenty years to a lot
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Speaker 1: of people. You've had one hundred and eighty scientific studies, right,
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Speaker 1: So that gives you a lot of meat on the bone.
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Speaker 1: But I think we should start at the basic vocabulary.
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Speaker 1: Let's define what a polysachride is for our viewers and listeners.
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Speaker 2: If you don't mind, absolutely, it's a very important place
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Speaker 2: to start. So first of all, saccharide, sugar, carbohydrate. Generally speaking,
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Speaker 2: those are synonyms. And we as Americans, for the last
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Speaker 2: at least half century, have been so conditioned to think
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Speaker 2: every time we hear the word sugar it only means
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Speaker 2: one thing bad. There's no possibility that you could take sugar.
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Speaker 2: You could eat sugar and it would be good for you.
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Speaker 2: But what people need to understand is there are four
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Speaker 2: types of sugars that occur in mother nature. You have monosaccharides, disacharides, oligosacharides,
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Speaker 2: and polysaccharides. And I mentioned those in order of increasing complexity.
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Speaker 2: So a monosaccharide, a simple sugar like high fructose corn
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Speaker 2: syrup is generally speaking not good for you if you're
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Speaker 2: overloading yourself on high froctose corn syrup. Take that all
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Speaker 2: the way to the end. Of polysacharides that I mentioned
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Speaker 2: that come from Alvara and rice brand. These are complex sugars.
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Speaker 2: Look at the root of the word polymini sacharide sugar.
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Speaker 2: These are hundreds of glucose units attached together by very
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Speaker 2: sophisticated glycosidic bonds. They have incredible structure to them. They
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Speaker 2: have more density of information than amino acids, fatty acids, certainly, vitamins,
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Speaker 2: and minerals. So these are the most complex structures that
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Speaker 2: you would consume generally speaking. And so when you look
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Speaker 2: at these complex sugars compared to again a simple sugar
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Speaker 2: like hyphrotose corn syrup, they're just completely different. So it
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Speaker 2: drives me absolutely crazy when I hear some you know,
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Speaker 2: supposed expert in public health or health or nutrition or
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Speaker 2: whatever out there talking about all sugar is bad for us.
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Speaker 2: That is a garbage statement. It's factually untrue. It's ignorant
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Speaker 2: at best. And these people going around saying that need
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Speaker 2: to do their homework because they are, as we say,
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Speaker 2: throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They're lumping all
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Speaker 2: sugars in one basket, and that's not the way to
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Speaker 2: look at it. It's like saying all cars drive the same.
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Speaker 2: That's a stupid statement. It doesn't make any sense. Who
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Speaker 2: would you know, who would take you seriously if you said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: every car drives the same. A Toyota drives exactly like
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Speaker 2: a Cadillac or a Ferrari. That doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 2: Same thing with sugars. There's no general blanket statement that
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Speaker 2: we can make about how sugars affect us. So what
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Speaker 2: we've shown time and time again is again, not only
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Speaker 2: are these sugars not bad for you, they are actually
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Speaker 2: arguably some of the most beneficial nutrients provided to us
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Speaker 2: by Mother Nature. I mean, I would put them really
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Speaker 2: at the top of the list compared to anything else
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Speaker 2: kerk human ginger, or any other plant you can think of.
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Speaker 1: You know, maybe the better thing is if those so
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Speaker 1: called experts would just differentiate and say, you know, the
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Speaker 1: simple sugars that sugarcane are the ones that you neique,
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Speaker 1: or they're derivatives like high fruit toast corns here. You know,
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Speaker 1: if they could just be a little more specific. I
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Speaker 1: think that's one of the problems in medicine, is that
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Speaker 1: things get to be generic and then people just accept
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Speaker 1: that generic and do not look further into the detail.
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Speaker 1: So I think you have a very good point, and
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're out there educating people because honestly, most
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Speaker 1: people have never heard of polysachrite, and if they have,
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Speaker 1: they don't know what it is. So we're doing We're
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Speaker 1: doing a big service. You're doing a big service here
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Speaker 1: to educate the humanity on not only the discernment and differentiation,
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Speaker 1: but just how valuable they are in our diet. So
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Speaker 1: why al vera and rerice bran and not like mushrooms
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Speaker 1: for example, Why there are polysacrites in other nutrients? So
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Speaker 2: Again, it was strictly through my association with doctor McDaniel
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Speaker 2: and Barbara I mean doctor reg A pathologists by training
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Speaker 2: in the Dallas area. This man has had an incredible live.
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Speaker 2: He's I think now Redge is like eighty eight years old,
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Speaker 2: still goes to his office every day like us, still
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Speaker 2: fighting the good fights, still looking for money to do research.
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Speaker 2: But reg was introduced to the saliva product about forty
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Speaker 2: years ago. I think it was eighty five eighty six,
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Speaker 2: so he's on like a forty year journey. He's like
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Speaker 2: double the time invested that I have. But this man
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Speaker 2: ended up leaving his practice. He was running a pathology
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Speaker 2: unit at a hospital in Dallas to basically practicing nutrition
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Speaker 2: based on the discoveries that he and his colleagues at
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M were making with these Alla poly sachrides.
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Speaker 2: And then Barbara was a patient here. She used to
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Speaker 2: live in the Fort Lauderdale area, and she was a
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Speaker 2: patient at the University of Miami. She had metistatic disease
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Speaker 2: from the thyroid, had the typical conventional approach surgery, radiation, chemotherapy,
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Speaker 2: and was still given a total terminal diagnosis excuse me,
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Speaker 2: and then found this rice brand product and ended up
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Speaker 2: extending her life for nine years. I met her about
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Speaker 2: four years posts six month prognosis, So you can imagine
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Speaker 2: how just I mean talk about, you know, having a
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Speaker 2: bully pulpit. I mean, this lady would tell you for
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Speaker 2: hours how much this rice brand had saved her life.
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Speaker 2: So it was simply due to the associations with Edge
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Speaker 2: and Barbara that I was able to conduct all of
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Speaker 2: this research that we focused on these two particular plants.
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Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right, I mean every vegetable, every grain,
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Speaker 2: every seaweed, every mushroom, they all have some level of
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Speaker 2: polysaccharide content, and I don't really. I mean, when you
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Speaker 2: have things like, you know, a Lion's made mushroom that's
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Speaker 2: one of the mushrooms that's gained some recent popularity, I mean,
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Speaker 2: certainly those things have effects due to their polysaccharide content.
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Speaker 2: I just haven't, Michelle, I just haven't had the opportunity.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there are just only so many, you know,
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Speaker 2: years in your life that you have to do certain things.
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Speaker 2: I've just focused on the two from alo O Vera
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Speaker 2: and rice Brand really, I mean, with all due respect
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Speaker 2: to all the other plants out there, I just don't
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Speaker 2: know too much about them, just because again, there's so
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Speaker 2: much to know and only so little time that you
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Speaker 2: have in your life.
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Speaker 1: That's and you're doing so much in gaps and with
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Speaker 1: so many diseases that you're looking at in the impact
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Speaker 1: of the folly sacriice on those diseases. So obviously Alzheimer's
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Speaker 1: been the most recent and the biggest. So take us
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Speaker 1: back to the Miller School. We talked about the fact
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Speaker 1: that my sister was very good friends with Leonard and
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Speaker 1: Sue Miller, both of whom unfortunately have passed away now.
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Speaker 1: But I think you remember when you and I spoke,
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that to you. So I have a lot
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Speaker 1: of time regard for that school because I had met
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Speaker 1: the couple when they were much younger, many years ago,
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Speaker 1: and you know her the full story of how they
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Speaker 1: evolved to that place. So what led you there and
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Speaker 1: what did you do there and how did that influence
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Speaker 1: what you're doing now?
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Speaker 2: Well? I ended up attending University Miami to do my
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Speaker 2: PhD because I wanted to move from Tennessee, escape the
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Speaker 2: cold weather and be somewhere in the country where it
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Speaker 2: was warm and close to the ocean. So really, you
13:54
Speaker 2: don't have too many choices unless since Florida or Hawaii,
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Speaker 2: and I hadn't been to Hawaii at that point in
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Speaker 2: my life, but for California. California is too cold for me.
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Speaker 2: But that's okay, okay, But anyway, I met a psychologist
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Speaker 2: at the medical school, and during my first year at
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Speaker 2: the university, I met a psychologist who was working at
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Speaker 2: the medical school doing research, and so anyway, that was
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Speaker 2: how I got connected into the medical school. And I
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Speaker 2: actually knew Sue a little bit myself. Unfortunately that was
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Speaker 2: more toward the end of her life and I didn't
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Speaker 2: really have much of a chance to get too involved
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Speaker 2: with her, but I didn't know Leonard at all. But
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Speaker 2: I spent about twenty years there conducting research full time,
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Speaker 2: and toward the end of that twenty years was when
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Speaker 2: I really got pretty burned out on essentially begging the government,
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Speaker 2: foundations and individuals like the Millers that have a lot
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Speaker 2: of money to do research. It's not really it's not
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Speaker 2: really a nice way to make a living. It's very
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Speaker 2: stressful full, especially when you're doing research and nutrition that's
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Speaker 2: considered kind of black sheep ish, if you will, Like,
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Speaker 2: if you're not doing a very conventional place like the
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Speaker 2: University of Miami that depends on all this big pharm
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Speaker 2: of funding, if you're not doing research in pharmacology or
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Speaker 2: even genetics, then you're really you're struggling. I mean, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm just being very honest here, You're really
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Speaker 2: struggling to make a living to keep your lab going
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Speaker 2: because you're just not doing research that pays the bills
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Speaker 2: per se, and that not any something percent of the
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Speaker 2: people around you are doing. So it's difficult to make
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Speaker 2: a living that way. And I was really it was
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Speaker 2: only through the generosity of this one family who spoke
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Speaker 2: with doctor Reg after the wife of this husband and
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Speaker 2: wife had listened to doctor Reg give a lecture one
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Speaker 2: day about some of the work that he was doing
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Speaker 2: with the poly sachrides with p with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's,
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Speaker 2: and so this lady approached Redg after his lecture, she said, Wow,
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Speaker 2: this is very interesting. She and her husband started a
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Speaker 2: relationship with Reg and then they decided to make a
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Speaker 2: donation to research on the polysachrides based on what he
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Speaker 2: had talked about. The only requirement was that they wanted
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Speaker 2: us to do the research and people with Alzheimer's because
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Speaker 2: they had lost four family members to the disease, so
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Speaker 2: they made a donation. Redge was not affiliated with any
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Speaker 2: university or a research organization at that time. I just
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Speaker 2: happened to be in the right place at the right time,
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Speaker 2: and now here i am today, and so we ran
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Speaker 2: the clinical trial in Alzheimer's which even today I mean again,
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Speaker 2: I'm no longer in academics, but today as far as
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Speaker 2: my academic or research career goes, that is the highlight
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Speaker 2: of my career simply due to the fact of what
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Speaker 2: we discovered. We put them on this formula that we
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Speaker 2: now called Daily Brain Care, and we assessed them over
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Speaker 2: a twelve month intervention. We tested their cognitive function at baseline, three, six, nine,
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Speaker 2: and twelve months. We drew their blood at baseline in
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Speaker 2: twelve months, and Michelle, quite frankly, we discovered things in
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Speaker 2: that study that are unparalleled. No other study has shown
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Speaker 2: similar things. So these were people with moderate to severe severity,
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Speaker 2: which is basically the worst level of severity of this disease.
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Speaker 2: They were on average seventy nine point nine years of age,
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Speaker 2: so relatively older group of folks. And they also didn't
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Speaker 2: just have Alzheimer's, they had diabetes, depression, different forms of
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Speaker 2: heart disease, so very impaired as well. At nine and
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Speaker 2: twelve months, we showed clinically and statistically significant improvement in
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Speaker 2: cognitive function according to the ad S COG, which is
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Speaker 2: the gold standard for assessing cognitive function, particularly in people
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Speaker 2: with any form of dementia.
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Speaker 1: That's unheard of.
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Speaker 2: That is unheard of. There's no other study. Any of
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Speaker 2: your listeners can go to PubMed themselves, do their own
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Speaker 2: literature search. You will not find any other intervention that
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Speaker 2: showed that kind of an effect. You can look at
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Speaker 2: the five FD approved drugs for dementia. They do basically nothing.
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Speaker 2: If you're lucky, they will delay progression of disease. But
18:21
Speaker 2: you can look at any type of diet, any other
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Speaker 2: dietary supplement, exercise, hyperbaric oxygen, red light therapy, accupuncture, anything,
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Speaker 2: just take your pick. Nothing else has shown that kind
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Speaker 2: of an effect. And remember, this is a disease that
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Speaker 2: as you progress through it, you lose your cognitive function.
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Speaker 2: And also most people, I think they sometimes tend to
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Speaker 2: think that cognitive function is synonymous with memory. Memory is
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Speaker 2: only one part of cognitive function, So you have multiple
18:52
Speaker 2: domains of cognitive function, for example, your ability, your executive
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Speaker 2: functioning ability, or processing speed, we call your orientation to
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Speaker 2: space time, all these different things. So it's not just
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Speaker 2: your short term and long term memory. It's there's a
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Speaker 2: lot that goes into your carnitive function.
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Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the test called the wav W
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Speaker 1: A V I.
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Speaker 2: I have seen that, but I'm not familiar with it.
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Speaker 2: I haven't used it in any of our research.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to connect you with Roberto Butteka, who is
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Speaker 1: the one of the partners in that that company, and
19:29
Speaker 1: they were literally right next to Roberto's booth at the
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Speaker 1: A for M show in Vegas last December, and I
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Speaker 1: took their tests with through Roberto, I took the test
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Speaker 1: and it does it tests all those areas, how quickly
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Speaker 1: can you make a decision? And how what is your
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Speaker 1: reflex speed? And you know, all of that good stuff.
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Speaker 1: Good news is that came out really well or really
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Speaker 1: he said I was top percentile. But but you know
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Speaker 1: that's the other The other thing that came up when
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Speaker 1: I was discussing it with him was how much influence
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Speaker 1: is the APO for alile the genetic tests have on
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Speaker 1: the people that you were testing And like an example,
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Speaker 1: did you ask all of those participants if they had
20:19
Speaker 1: the positive result on that genetic test?
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Speaker 2: We did not have. We had again remember this was
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Speaker 2: private money. This was not from the government or some
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Speaker 2: big organization, so we had we were pinching pennies and
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Speaker 2: nickels and dimes. I mean, we didn't even draw blood
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Speaker 2: at three six nine, at three six and nine months,
20:41
Speaker 2: which we wanted to do. We only had money to
20:45
Speaker 2: draw blood at baseline and twelve months, so we didn't
20:47
Speaker 2: do any genetic testing in that study. Unfortunately, we actually
20:51
Speaker 2: have the samples stored in a freezer. So anybody out
20:54
Speaker 2: there listening who may feel inspired or compelled to donate
20:59
Speaker 2: money to research act, we still have all of the
21:01
Speaker 2: samples stored in a freezer. We could actually go back,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know how much you know, we potentially
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Speaker 2: can do with those samples in terms of what you
21:10
Speaker 2: need to do genetic testing live, you know, with a
21:13
Speaker 2: fresh sample as opposed to frozen. But there are still
21:17
Speaker 2: lots of questions that need to be answered. And that's
21:20
Speaker 2: why I still have again, even though I'm not not
21:23
Speaker 2: academics full time any longer, I still have ultimately a
21:27
Speaker 2: goal to do additional research. But you know, research takes
21:32
Speaker 2: a lot of money, and that's part of the reason
21:34
Speaker 2: why I'm no longer in academics. So I didn't realize
21:36
Speaker 2: it at that moment, but when we published our first
21:39
Speaker 2: article from twenty thirteen in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease,
21:43
Speaker 2: which were the most extensive amount of results we published.
21:46
Speaker 2: We publish four papers from that study now. But I
21:49
Speaker 2: tried two times within IH and two times with Alzheimer's
21:52
Speaker 2: Association prior to leaving academics full time. Over the next
21:56
Speaker 2: couple of years, and I got that much in retire
22:00
Speaker 2: in return.
22:00
Speaker 1: Well, hang on, because if Robert F. Kennedy gets confirmed
22:07
Speaker 1: in the new administration, hopefully there'll be a lot more
22:10
Speaker 1: opportunity for tests that are, you know, in the integrative
22:14
Speaker 1: and functional side of things, with plant based diets and
22:18
Speaker 1: so forth. So and and your test and your research
22:22
Speaker 1: may be far more acceptable or valuable even to them.
22:29
Speaker 1: So that's something to you know, I'm glad that you
22:32
Speaker 1: kept frozen samples. That's really that was really smart to do. Well.
22:37
Speaker 1: You know, so much of the talk today is about
22:39
Speaker 1: the microbione and how the gut affects the brain. And
22:45
Speaker 1: as a baseline, did you do a questionnaire or how
22:49
Speaker 1: did you find out whether these people were really toxic?
22:53
Speaker 1: And you know, you said they had a lot of
22:54
Speaker 1: other issues besides just all times. That's that's enough in
22:59
Speaker 1: of itself, But did you actually look into their condition
23:04
Speaker 1: of their microbiome?
23:07
Speaker 2: No, we focused more on the immune system, we didn't.
23:11
Speaker 2: I mean again, you know, in a very conventional place,
23:14
Speaker 2: you only can do so many things. We rather than
23:17
Speaker 2: looking at the microbiome, we chose to focus on the
23:19
Speaker 2: immune system simply because the immune system has it's not
23:23
Speaker 2: just our first line of defense against infection. It's it's
23:27
Speaker 2: so much more than that in the sense of how
23:30
Speaker 2: it cross talks to all the other major organ systems,
23:33
Speaker 2: and so we wanted to look at the role of
23:35
Speaker 2: the inflammatory markers overall immune system functioning adult stem cell production.
23:41
Speaker 2: We even in our last paper we published a little
23:44
Speaker 2: over a year ago, we showed how the T one
23:47
Speaker 2: and T two components the pro versus the anti inflammatory
23:51
Speaker 2: side of the immune system were affected as well. But
23:55
Speaker 2: for example, we showed an improvement in overall immune function
23:59
Speaker 2: according to the CD four to CD eight ratio that's
24:01
Speaker 2: your ratio of helper to cytotoxic cells. So that's very
24:05
Speaker 2: important for all of us, not just for people with
24:08
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's disease. We showed in TNF alpha and vegf, which
24:13
Speaker 2: our proteins commonly looked at in heart disease and cancer.
24:17
Speaker 2: Our paper was probably the first one that published that
24:19
Speaker 2: in people with Alzheimer's disease. And then we showed just
24:22
Speaker 2: under a three hundred percent increase in adult stem cell
24:25
Speaker 2: production according to CD fourteen cells over that twelve month
24:29
Speaker 2: period as well. So those findings again were probably some
24:32
Speaker 2: of the first findings ever published in people with Alzheimer's disease,
24:36
Speaker 2: and we showed very significant links between how the immune
24:40
Speaker 2: system functions and then how you can say cognitive function
24:44
Speaker 2: is essentially a proxy measure of brain function, although there's
24:49
Speaker 2: not really a good way to assess that. I mean,
24:51
Speaker 2: we could have, had we had the funding, we could
24:54
Speaker 2: have looked at images of the brain, you know, a
24:56
Speaker 2: CT scan or something, but again we didn't because of
24:59
Speaker 2: our or budget being so limited, we didn't have imaging data.
25:03
Speaker 2: But these were very significant findings that and we've published subsequently,
25:09
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, four papers, So the next three papers
25:12
Speaker 2: we continued demonstrating links between the immune systems functioning and brain. Hell,
25:18
Speaker 2: so the microbiol would certainly be another area. In fact,
25:22
Speaker 2: we've already talked about adding that as part of the
25:25
Speaker 2: assessment when we do a second study. We just didn't
25:28
Speaker 2: do anything like that in the first study and.
25:30
Speaker 1: We didn't have Yeah, you didn't have the funding. But right,
25:33
Speaker 1: they say that eighty percent of your immune system was
25:37
Speaker 1: in your gut. So honestly, I think the baseline for
25:41
Speaker 1: all health is starting in the digestive trap. And if
25:44
Speaker 1: that's all determined that if you have toxicity, there you're
25:49
Speaker 1: going to have a compromised immune system, and then you
25:51
Speaker 1: get probably going to have a compromised brain because they
25:55
Speaker 1: are all integrated. That no accident. It's called integrative medicine, right,
26:00
Speaker 1: that's right, the alternative allopathic medicine. So what Okay, So
26:05
Speaker 1: let's go back to this immune system issue, because I
26:08
Speaker 1: think our viewers and listeners need to know some of
26:12
Speaker 1: these terms so that they understand how the immune system
26:15
Speaker 1: is just like the conductor of the orchestra, as I
26:18
Speaker 1: think you said in one of your talks, and that
26:22
Speaker 1: does require homeostasis and getting homeostasis in the which means
26:27
Speaker 1: that you know everything is in balance. So getting that
26:31
Speaker 1: in your immune system is a huge challenge, and particularly
26:35
Speaker 1: in today's toxic world with all the bad influences we have.
26:39
Speaker 1: So start us from the base, like, okay, what is
26:42
Speaker 1: the CD for the CDA. Tell us more about the
26:45
Speaker 1: ratio and what those individually mean to individuals who are
26:49
Speaker 1: getting their blood work done.
26:52
Speaker 2: Well, I don't so unless somebody has like an autoimmune issue,
26:57
Speaker 2: maybe HIV, rheumatoid artheis, even multiple sclerosis, I think probably.
27:03
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know about you. I don't think
27:05
Speaker 2: you commonly necessarily look for your CD four to CD
27:09
Speaker 2: eight ratio. I mean, I think that's probably fairly uncommon.
27:12
Speaker 2: It's really more research wise. People tend to look at
27:16
Speaker 2: things like that just to again assess. So you have
27:18
Speaker 2: helper cells that do things like assist other cells, which
27:23
Speaker 2: you know, is why it's called helper You're helping other
27:26
Speaker 2: immune cells do their job, whether that's counteracting a bacteria
27:30
Speaker 2: or a virus, or responding to some sort of an
27:33
Speaker 2: inflammatory signal. And then you have the side of a
27:36
Speaker 2: toxic cell, the CD eight, which is your cell that
27:39
Speaker 2: goes out and actually kills the virus or the bacteria
27:43
Speaker 2: or disrupts that type of replication. So, again, as I mentioned,
27:47
Speaker 2: those are very important for all of us. I don't
27:49
Speaker 2: want anybody to think, oh, well, that's just for people
27:51
Speaker 2: with Alzheimer's disease. No, that's not. You know, again, those
27:54
Speaker 2: are very important for all of us, especially once we
27:57
Speaker 2: hit middle age and then as we go through the
27:59
Speaker 2: rest of our life. We want that ratio to be
28:02
Speaker 2: optimized as much as possible. And so that was one
28:05
Speaker 2: of the ways that you can look at overall immune function.
28:08
Speaker 2: That just kind of gives you sort of a helicopter
28:11
Speaker 2: or high level view if you will, of how your
28:14
Speaker 2: overall immune system is functioning. So if you have an
28:16
Speaker 2: inverted ratio, in other words, if the ratio is below
28:20
Speaker 2: one point, oh, then that's probably not optimal because again,
28:23
Speaker 2: now you have too many cytotoxic cells in relationship to
28:27
Speaker 2: your helper cells, and that's not really that's not optimal
28:31
Speaker 2: at all. In fact, and if you look at the
28:33
Speaker 2: HIV literature, if you have HIV infection and you have
28:37
Speaker 2: an inverted ratio, you're actually at greater risk of things
28:41
Speaker 2: like diabetes, cancer, and heart disease on top of all
28:44
Speaker 2: of the effects you're dealing with just from HIV itself.
28:48
Speaker 2: So that's a very important ratio to it at the
28:51
Speaker 2: like to me, at the very minimum, at least have
28:54
Speaker 2: over one point. Oh, you want it to be positively
28:59
Speaker 2: calculated above one.
29:01
Speaker 4: No.
29:02
Speaker 1: So you know, Sean, my doctor routinely has me do
29:07
Speaker 1: every time I you know, I do once a year
29:10
Speaker 1: blood work and last time with twenty vials, so she's
29:14
Speaker 1: really borrow and she always has me look at the
29:18
Speaker 1: immune system balance, so the CD four and CD eight
29:21
Speaker 1: and then the natural killer cells. So basically, let maybe
29:25
Speaker 1: take it one step further and tell us about. So
29:28
Speaker 1: the CD four help help, the CD eight suppress if
29:32
Speaker 1: there are bad guys around, they'll go in and help.
29:35
Speaker 1: And then what does the natural killer cells do?
29:38
Speaker 2: The natural killer sales are our first line of defense
29:40
Speaker 2: against virus and transformed or carcinogenic cells. So obviously we
29:47
Speaker 2: want our immune system and it's all of its many
29:50
Speaker 2: different roles. We have all of these different subsets of
29:53
Speaker 2: the immune system. We want our natural killer cells to
29:56
Speaker 2: be able to recognize when you have a viol risk,
30:00
Speaker 2: to be able to recognize because all of our cells
30:03
Speaker 2: are constantly going through apatosis, this life death cycle, and
30:08
Speaker 2: within that normal cycle, a cell dies off and then
30:11
Speaker 2: our macrophage consume that wasted material, that dying cellular byproduct,
30:17
Speaker 2: if you will, and then there's no problem. But if
30:21
Speaker 2: a cell is dying and it's not properly eliminated, if
30:25
Speaker 2: our natural killer cells do not recognize it and eliminate it,
30:29
Speaker 2: what happens to us, Well, we could end up with carcinogenesis,
30:33
Speaker 2: which leads to cancer, athrogenesis, which leads to cardiovascu disease,
30:38
Speaker 2: two of the most important things. So we want we
30:41
Speaker 2: want our natural killer cells surveillant ready for action ready
30:45
Speaker 2: to do their job, and that's a big part of
30:47
Speaker 2: the job is eliminating those transforming, dying cells. And so
30:51
Speaker 2: we have to have a very good natural killer cell
30:54
Speaker 2: activity cytotoxicity to be able to do that.
30:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think if people understand and that all
31:00
Speaker 1: health begins in the cells and that you're app which
31:05
Speaker 1: is like the master energizer of every cell. So if
31:10
Speaker 1: you're not getting all this garbage cleanup, your cells are
31:14
Speaker 1: going to suffer and you're going to feel it low
31:17
Speaker 1: energy and those more serious consequences that you just mentioned.
31:22
Speaker 1: So that's right, that's why there's so many synalytics on
31:25
Speaker 1: the market today, right, So people are looking at ways
31:28
Speaker 1: to clean up cellular debris, and like, what are some
31:32
Speaker 1: of the ingredients other than these polysaccharides that you think
31:35
Speaker 1: help with in the synalytic formulas.
31:41
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. I mean, in our formula,
31:43
Speaker 2: we have ultra tara clay, which is a very important
31:46
Speaker 2: component to our formula. That's a bent tonit clay. It
31:49
Speaker 2: comes from an old lake in Mississippi. It's got all
31:53
Speaker 2: this micro nutrition in it. But also the clay in general.
31:56
Speaker 2: When you think of clays and how humans have used
31:58
Speaker 2: clays for healing perps is for millennia. Really they strip
32:03
Speaker 2: out the all of this toxic you mentioned toxins a
32:06
Speaker 2: few moments ago, all of these toxins that we accumulate,
32:11
Speaker 2: and you can eat the most perfect diet, you can
32:14
Speaker 2: exercise every day, you can do all these things, but
32:16
Speaker 2: you're still exposed to pollution in the environment. There's no
32:19
Speaker 2: escaping pollution at any level on our planet, unfortunately. And
32:24
Speaker 2: so as we build up heavy metals arsenic PCBs, PHAs
32:29
Speaker 2: I mean, there's all sorts of stuff floating around now
32:32
Speaker 2: in the environment, in our water, soil, and air. We
32:35
Speaker 2: accumulate that stuff over time. So the clay is a
32:38
Speaker 2: very potent key lator or detoxifier of those things. So
32:43
Speaker 2: it's not only helping to nourish on one side, but
32:46
Speaker 2: it's also helping to clean up on the other side.
32:49
Speaker 2: So that's a very important component to the formula. Something
32:53
Speaker 2: like innocetyl cysteine, that's a very very important it's a
32:57
Speaker 2: hybrid of cysteine, the amino acid that is more commonly
33:01
Speaker 2: thought of, but in acetyl systein is the metabolic precursor
33:05
Speaker 2: to gluet to thion, which is are referred to as
33:08
Speaker 2: our master antioxidant, and unfortunately, as we age, like many things,
33:13
Speaker 2: our body makes less glue to thion. Glue tothion is
33:16
Speaker 2: also difficult to There's been technological challenges with trying to
33:21
Speaker 2: create an oral glue to thion that's actually effective because
33:24
Speaker 2: the body's hydrochloric acid breaks it down very rapidly orally.
33:29
Speaker 2: So you see a lot of these, you know, specially clinics,
33:33
Speaker 2: anti aging clinics, whatever you want to call them, offering
33:35
Speaker 2: IV glue to thion. But you can boost your level
33:39
Speaker 2: of glue to thion with oral in a se So
33:44
Speaker 2: oral in ac is a very important nutrient that can
33:47
Speaker 2: be used not only for boosting your glue tothion, but
33:50
Speaker 2: also helping in the clay do its job with cleaning
33:54
Speaker 2: out things. It's actually used if people have you've ever
33:57
Speaker 2: heard of anybody having an a seede of minifin uh
34:01
Speaker 2: toxic exposure. N C is used to counteract that. So
34:04
Speaker 2: it's very good for helping deliver to detoxify any type
34:08
Speaker 2: of toxic toxification acute situation like that. NAC is your
34:15
Speaker 2: go to nutrient for that, and it's it's I mean,
34:18
Speaker 2: it's had so many studies done on it. It's a
34:21
Speaker 2: really powerful and incredible nutrient.
34:24
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up. You know, a
34:26
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand they take these glue to
34:28
Speaker 1: ione pills and they really don't realize they're not they're
34:31
Speaker 1: not they're just basically it's expensive urine. Because they're they're
34:35
Speaker 1: not benefit. Quicksilver Scientific does a lipizomal glue de thion,
34:42
Speaker 1: and I've been told even that is even though it's
34:45
Speaker 1: going right into your bloodstream, it's still not doing the
34:48
Speaker 1: full job. So taking the precursor of ANAC, which is absorbable,
34:54
Speaker 1: does help to boost it. And you know, if you
34:57
Speaker 1: want to do it both ways. And now at the
34:59
Speaker 1: show the it was a company called Aura Wellness and
35:03
Speaker 1: they do a skin a surface oil now glutas ion.
35:08
Speaker 1: That's their kind of their flag product. So I bought
35:13
Speaker 1: a couple of bottles and I'm, you know, sort of
35:15
Speaker 1: I don't use it every single day because I know
35:18
Speaker 1: I'm taking NAC, so I don't feel the compulsion, but
35:22
Speaker 1: I know it's really you know, supposed to be because
35:24
Speaker 1: it's going through the skin a much more efficacious way
35:28
Speaker 1: to get the benefits of glutathion. But even when you
35:31
Speaker 1: do the IV, it helps you for about the first hour.
35:36
Speaker 1: But you know after an IV people don't always realize
35:38
Speaker 1: it's because ivs are very effective, but they don't last.
35:42
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do them occasionally, but then I know
35:47
Speaker 1: that when I walk out the door about an hour later,
35:51
Speaker 1: I'd probably be ready to go to the bathroom. Right
35:54
Speaker 1: And you can see the vitamin C in your in
35:57
Speaker 1: your urine just so bright colored. So I'm glad you're
36:02
Speaker 1: talking about that because your product does go to a point,
36:07
Speaker 1: but there doesn't. It doesn't mean it and it's a
36:09
Speaker 1: very good point, I should say, very strong. Ingredients in
36:13
Speaker 1: the product are are amazing. But however, you know there
36:19
Speaker 1: are ways to partner with other nutrients to just make
36:25
Speaker 1: the process even more potent and powerful and and and
36:31
Speaker 1: and efficases. Right, so, so, and what about like our
36:37
Speaker 1: lapolic acid and the B complex vitems are those? Would
36:43
Speaker 1: you put those on a list of nutrients to take
36:47
Speaker 1: people to take if they wanted to combine it with
36:49
Speaker 1: your product?
36:51
Speaker 2: Oh, I would think. So there's there has been some
36:53
Speaker 2: really interesting research conducted on our life poic acid, as
36:56
Speaker 2: you mentioned, I mean, it definitely has lots of different
36:59
Speaker 2: cardio a, vascular, and cognitive function effects. So I would
37:02
Speaker 2: say that, yes, if you if you are taking any
37:06
Speaker 2: type of lie poeic acid, I would consider the R
37:09
Speaker 2: form over the alpha form generally speaking.
37:13
Speaker 1: Right, more absorbable, right, and particularly it's right older people
37:17
Speaker 1: who are more of your target audience for Alzheimer's. So yeah,
37:21
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like the same thing with uh,
37:26
Speaker 1: what's the other one that oh my gosh, just it's
37:29
Speaker 1: just skipped me in my mind. Oh, we're supposed to
37:33
Speaker 1: one form over the other because it's much more potent.
37:39
Speaker 1: I'll think of it in the moment about yeah, coke
37:42
Speaker 1: ten and you bi one, thank you, thank you. Yeah. Yeah,
37:46
Speaker 1: So people don't often realize that COQ ten isn't as
37:50
Speaker 1: absorbable as you bick on all. So, and that's that's
37:54
Speaker 1: just another one. You know, when I took the genetic test,
37:57
Speaker 1: I took it from the DNA company out of Toronto,
38:00
Speaker 1: and there was a sixty page test, very difficult, I mean,
38:05
Speaker 1: wonderful information. You know, you can't make most people they
38:09
Speaker 1: don't send you a copy because of course they go
38:11
Speaker 1: broke because they were sending out all those copies. But
38:16
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I was lucky enough. I don't
38:18
Speaker 1: have the APO four gene, so that was a big, big,
38:22
Speaker 1: you know, relief, and then the breast that breast cancer gene.
38:26
Speaker 1: I didn't have that. But what if somebody does have
38:29
Speaker 1: these results that are positive? How does epigenetics play a role.
38:36
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you looked into this because you're, you know,
38:40
Speaker 1: dealing with Alzheimer's. How does epigenetics play a role against
38:44
Speaker 1: or in combination with your genetic blueprint? And how would
38:50
Speaker 1: you guide people if they do get a positive result
38:53
Speaker 1: to say, that doesn't mean you have a death sentence
38:56
Speaker 1: that you're going to get Alzheimer's because your epigenetics, which
38:59
Speaker 1: is your lifestyle, will could could you know, prevent that
39:04
Speaker 1: from ever happening. So how do you explain that from
39:07
Speaker 1: a you know, medical and scientific standpoint? I, Well.
39:13
Speaker 2: You just said it. I totally agree with you. Just
39:15
Speaker 2: because you have a mutation on your genetic side does
39:18
Speaker 2: not mean it's a destentence. So I would tell people
39:21
Speaker 2: not to freak out about any genetic testing that they've
39:24
Speaker 2: received and really focus If they were not already focused
39:27
Speaker 2: on their lifestyle, then you know, like at that point
39:30
Speaker 2: that's really when it becomes a real necessity to do so,
39:34
Speaker 2: because then ultimately, if you don't, you would end up
39:37
Speaker 2: being more likely to be a statistic or a number
39:40
Speaker 2: based on that genetic risk. So you're absolutely right. I mean,
39:44
Speaker 2: look at I think the best way that you know,
39:47
Speaker 2: late people can understand how our genes function is that
39:51
Speaker 2: our genes do not really do anything until they receive
39:54
Speaker 2: information from the environment. And then it's kind of like
39:57
Speaker 2: if you use the analogy of a gun. You know,
39:59
Speaker 2: a gun by itself can't do anything to another person
40:03
Speaker 2: or an animal or whatever. But you put ammunition in
40:06
Speaker 2: that gun and then you pull the trigger, and that's
40:08
Speaker 2: where it can do damage. Same thing with our genes, right,
40:11
Speaker 2: I mean, so our genes are sitting there waiting on
40:14
Speaker 2: information from the environment, and usually the most readily available
40:19
Speaker 2: source of information that our genes receive is what we
40:21
Speaker 2: stick in our mouths. So every time we bend our elbow,
40:24
Speaker 2: open our mouth and put something in it, that's where
40:27
Speaker 2: our genes are getting information. And going back to the
40:30
Speaker 2: polysacrides for a minute, that's where I would argue that
40:33
Speaker 2: the polysacrides can make such a huge difference in someone's life,
40:37
Speaker 2: not just from the brain health perspective, but really head
40:40
Speaker 2: to toe is that these polysacrides have so much coded
40:44
Speaker 2: information in them that is beneficial, not detrimental. And so
40:51
Speaker 2: taking these polysacrides every day you are instructing the cells
40:55
Speaker 2: through the guidance by the genes and how to function properly.
41:00
Speaker 2: It's a very important tool in your toolbox to utilize
41:03
Speaker 2: to help you with that. But generally speaking, I mean
41:06
Speaker 2: we know, just again, don't take my word for it.
41:08
Speaker 2: Go to PubMed and do your own literature search. If
41:11
Speaker 2: you look at all the lifestyle data out there, nutrition,
41:16
Speaker 2: physical activity, exercise, dietary supplementation, smoking or not. Of course
41:22
Speaker 2: those are very specific behaviors related to certain cancers and
41:25
Speaker 2: other diseases, use of alcohol, stress management, sweep, you know,
41:32
Speaker 2: all these different things nutrition And I'm lumping everything about
41:37
Speaker 2: nutrition under one umbrella of what you you know, your diet,
41:41
Speaker 2: your supplementation, all these things together. But far and away,
41:45
Speaker 2: nutrition is the number one lifestyle choice that we can
41:49
Speaker 2: make good or bad, you know, depending on how you
41:52
Speaker 2: utilize it to your detriment or to your benefit in
41:57
Speaker 2: terms of your ultimate health outcome. So certainly that all
42:00
Speaker 2: the way back you have somebody who does genetic testing,
42:04
Speaker 2: maybe they have the mutation of the apoe for allele
42:08
Speaker 2: on one side, or maybe they even have both. Just
42:12
Speaker 2: you know, again, don't freak out about it. Just be
42:14
Speaker 2: you know, starting from that point, be very vigilant about
42:17
Speaker 2: how you take care of yourself, and then hopefully through
42:20
Speaker 2: your own activity, through your own lifestyle, you will keep
42:25
Speaker 2: that genetic risk, you know, under the cover, if you will,
42:30
Speaker 2: lack of a better analogy and not allow it to
42:34
Speaker 2: express in a way that would ultimately lead you to
42:36
Speaker 2: having Alzheimer's disease.
42:38
Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting because you're absolutely right, and
42:42
Speaker 1: it's important that people hear this because very often people
42:45
Speaker 1: here get the results of their genetic tests and they
42:47
Speaker 1: think that's, you know, a life sentence or a death sentence,
42:50
Speaker 1: like we said, to their lives, and they then start
42:54
Speaker 1: having these negativity because your attitude and your thoughts create
42:58
Speaker 1: a reality. And so if you're attracting that kind of
43:01
Speaker 1: energy of negativity about your genetic results. So with mine,
43:06
Speaker 1: I had, I said to the people at DNA, the CEO,
43:12
Speaker 1: how come I have the obesity gene? I said, I've
43:15
Speaker 1: been a size six since I was in genes and
43:18
Speaker 1: you said, well, yeah, but that's because you learned early
43:21
Speaker 1: on to all the nutrients that are important to your
43:26
Speaker 1: life and you've been very disciplined if you weren't, And
43:30
Speaker 1: he's right, because a lot of my family members were
43:34
Speaker 1: very heavy and so it must be something you know, inherited.
43:39
Speaker 1: My father, however, was not, so he had other issues,
43:42
Speaker 1: but you know, with stress management and that kind of thing.
43:46
Speaker 1: But but that, and then they also told me that
43:49
Speaker 1: I had a dopamine or neurotransmitter slow converter of serotonin
43:55
Speaker 1: and dopamine. And yet I'm one of the most positive
43:58
Speaker 1: people you will ever meet. So rather and I'm mentioning
44:03
Speaker 1: this about me because it does. It does express to
44:06
Speaker 1: the point of what you're saying that don't take it
44:09
Speaker 1: as a a sentence. Isn't just an outline. It's a
44:14
Speaker 1: basic recognize that you are very lucky. Actually, I've converted
44:18
Speaker 1: this into a very positive and said, wow, it really
44:22
Speaker 1: does work to be disciplined and to be knowledgeable and
44:26
Speaker 1: to take action, be proactive about learning, like with discovering
44:30
Speaker 1: you doctor John is you know one of it really
44:33
Speaker 1: has been a huge benefit. I want to talk about
44:35
Speaker 1: that in just a moment, but so I just want
44:39
Speaker 1: to be sure we express that to people that just
44:41
Speaker 1: because you get that you know gene, doesn't mean you're
44:44
Speaker 1: going to get Alzheimer's so or any other condition. That's right.
44:49
Speaker 2: Well, And the other thing that people should understand is
44:51
Speaker 2: we have over forty thousand genes. I know, that's you know,
44:57
Speaker 2: just one gene in the context forty thousand, Like, hey,
45:02
Speaker 2: you know, people don't get freaked out over one gane
45:05
Speaker 2: out of forty thousand. You know, there's a lot of things.
45:09
Speaker 2: There's a lot of activity going on here at the
45:12
Speaker 2: genetic level, and so you have the opportunity to overcome anything.
45:16
Speaker 2: And also we get sucked into this notion, and particularly
45:20
Speaker 2: in our culture of the magic bullet, right like we
45:23
Speaker 2: want to look for that one thing, yes, that we
45:25
Speaker 2: can do, or that one thing that's so important over
45:28
Speaker 2: everything else. That's that's not the way our physiology works.
45:32
Speaker 2: So just to your point, it's so the approach should
45:36
Speaker 2: be so comprehensive and should take into consideration lots of
45:40
Speaker 2: other factors. So don't get misled or excuse me, don't
45:44
Speaker 2: get caught up into this idea of you know, one
45:46
Speaker 2: magic bullet or one key. No, it's a lot of
45:49
Speaker 2: things going into this equation.
45:52
Speaker 1: Well, that's why it's good segue, because I want to
45:54
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what happened to me, because
45:57
Speaker 1: you were so kind to send me some samples to try,
46:01
Speaker 1: which I had been routinely using since I received them,
46:05
Speaker 1: and that's a couple of months. Now. I must say
46:08
Speaker 1: I like the capsules better because I travel a lot,
46:12
Speaker 1: and so the daily brain care comes in powder, which
46:16
Speaker 1: is much more absorbable. I recognize that I much prefer
46:20
Speaker 1: using powders and liquids for not having to go through
46:24
Speaker 1: the liver like a capsule does. However, with people who
46:28
Speaker 1: are busy lives like me, you know, popping a capsule
46:31
Speaker 1: sometimes easier than the two times a day. But I
46:35
Speaker 1: just wanted to let you have some feedback publicly that
46:39
Speaker 1: after I started taking your product along with doctor Gale Brettison,
46:43
Speaker 1: who is do you know doctor Gale Retison's He's written
46:47
Speaker 1: the book about ending Alzheimer's, and doctor Dane Goodenow, who
46:53
Speaker 1: is one of my very close allies and I'm in
46:56
Speaker 1: his clinical I'm like a protegee to him, so he
47:00
Speaker 1: gives me all these products that he's the founder of plasmaalagins,
47:05
Speaker 1: and they're like the fish oils. I mean, I'm being
47:09
Speaker 1: simplistic because I don't want to spend time on their products.
47:12
Speaker 1: But what I started taking. I was already taking his plasmalagins,
47:17
Speaker 1: which you take in the morning and take at night.
47:20
Speaker 1: And then I started taking your product, and then I
47:23
Speaker 1: Dale Brettison has the So both of these men are
47:28
Speaker 1: experts in Alzheimer's and so they Dale Bredicine's companies called
47:35
Speaker 1: Apollo Health, and he has a product called Neuroq. So
47:41
Speaker 1: I can't, you know, say, because I was taking all
47:44
Speaker 1: three if one or the other is better or has
47:48
Speaker 1: more efficacy with me. But I can tell you that
47:50
Speaker 1: what started happening, all these memories started coming back. Things
47:55
Speaker 1: that you know, I hadn't thought about for twenty years
47:58
Speaker 1: and named the people started popping into my head, like
48:01
Speaker 1: how did I ever remember that person? I hardly ever
48:03
Speaker 1: knew them. And then my dreams have been like and technicolor,
48:08
Speaker 1: much more vivid. And I always used to dream a lot,
48:12
Speaker 1: but I would never remember them in the morning. Now
48:16
Speaker 1: it seems like I can remember really vivid details of
48:20
Speaker 1: the dreams. Sometimes they're not so good because we all
48:23
Speaker 1: have stress levels and challenges, and sometimes our dreams will
48:27
Speaker 1: tell us more than you know. Look by doctor Froyes
48:32
Speaker 1: told us how important the dreams are to our mental health.
48:36
Speaker 1: But I just wanted people to know that I highly
48:40
Speaker 1: recommend your product, and maybe people should just do your
48:43
Speaker 1: product alone and see how that works for them, because
48:47
Speaker 1: you don't have to be doing what I'm doing, which
48:50
Speaker 1: is because these are both all three of you have
48:52
Speaker 1: been guests on my podcast, So I obviously want to
48:55
Speaker 1: be a steward of and be able to a spokesperson
48:59
Speaker 1: and be able to speak about my personal experience. So
49:03
Speaker 1: my question is how long for a healthy person like
49:06
Speaker 1: me who isn't dealing with thank goodness any issues but
49:11
Speaker 1: wants to do it proactively? How long should I, as
49:15
Speaker 1: one individual, one example? How long should people like me
49:19
Speaker 1: take your product?
49:22
Speaker 2: You mean to notice an effect or what?
49:24
Speaker 1: No? No, just because we're taking it preventatively.
49:28
Speaker 2: Right not so so? Oxygen obviously is our first nutrient,
49:35
Speaker 2: and then we need water after that, and then after
49:38
Speaker 2: that we need everything else. They sort of fall into place.
49:41
Speaker 2: But I've been on my own formula for over ten years.
49:44
Speaker 2: I've had my mother on it for I think Mom's
49:47
Speaker 2: been on it for about thirteen maybe fourteen years. My
49:51
Speaker 2: wife started taking it when she was pregnant with our
49:54
Speaker 2: first child, over five years ago. I started my daughter
49:57
Speaker 2: on it when she turned six months of age, and
50:00
Speaker 2: she's going to be four, I'm sorry, five in March.
50:03
Speaker 2: So I say all that to say that number one,
50:05
Speaker 2: I'd be a hypocrite if I wasn't taking my own stuff.
50:08
Speaker 2: But number two, that prevention is to me is as
50:12
Speaker 2: important as anything else in terms of not to your
50:16
Speaker 2: point of not wanting to get any health issue. And
50:18
Speaker 2: I'm glad you don't have any health issue, but this
50:21
Speaker 2: is not something that you just take and then you know,
50:23
Speaker 2: you do it for a few months and that's it.
50:25
Speaker 2: You don't need it anymore. Now this is again just
50:28
Speaker 2: like oxygen. You need these polysacharides every day and you're
50:32
Speaker 2: not getting I mean, I don't know about you. We
50:35
Speaker 2: have alvera growing in our backyard, but I'm not out
50:37
Speaker 2: there snipping leaves off every day and sucking the gail down.
50:41
Speaker 2: It tastes nasty, yeah, And it's ninety nine percent water,
50:45
Speaker 2: so the polysacharide content is so diluted in the water
50:49
Speaker 2: it's pretty irrelevant. So you know, we've done the hard
50:54
Speaker 2: work for everybody. We've concentrated it into a powder that
50:57
Speaker 2: you can take every day and benefit from. And again
51:00
Speaker 2: I would say that, you know, anybody that want to
51:03
Speaker 2: take take daily brain care along with whatever else they
51:07
Speaker 2: take every day, would certainly be adding a tool to
51:10
Speaker 2: his or her toolbox. That I mean, I stand by
51:13
Speaker 2: everything that we've done. You know, I didn't. Daily bring
51:16
Speaker 2: Care is not just some you know, slick marketing idea.
51:19
Speaker 2: That this is the baby of decades of research that
51:23
Speaker 2: my colleagues and I have conducted. If I was only
51:25
Speaker 2: trying to make a lot of money, I did a
51:26
Speaker 2: very poor job of it because I spent all of
51:29
Speaker 2: those years at the university not making a lot of
51:32
Speaker 2: money and doing all of this research. And so this,
51:35
Speaker 2: this is my inanimate baby that I'm trying to spread
51:39
Speaker 2: a message of to people. And you know, all this
51:42
Speaker 2: science that we've published in the peer reviewed literature, and
51:46
Speaker 2: and so I would just say, you know, you want
51:48
Speaker 2: to take this for the rest of your life. We
51:50
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, prevention is kind of the unanswerable question.
51:54
Speaker 2: We don't know how prevention works until, unfortunately we get
51:58
Speaker 2: to the end of our lives and then we didn't
52:00
Speaker 2: die from Alzheimer's, or we didn't die from cancer or
52:05
Speaker 2: whatever other killer. We don't know that until the very end.
52:07
Speaker 2: But at least again, you're giving yourself the possibility of
52:12
Speaker 2: not dying from those things, which to me is very important.
52:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, when you do your biological age,
52:20
Speaker 1: which I you know, at a form, they have a
52:22
Speaker 1: number of different people vendors that are testing you. True
52:27
Speaker 1: Diagnostics is the one that I've used, and it tells you,
52:31
Speaker 1: you know, just basically how all your systems are working.
52:33
Speaker 1: It's really the health of your organs and the functioning
52:36
Speaker 1: integratively of those rather than your how many years around
52:40
Speaker 1: the sun have you? And mine came out twenty years younger.
52:44
Speaker 1: And I know, and I'm just telling people this. I
52:47
Speaker 1: know it's not just an accident. It wouldn't be that
52:51
Speaker 1: if I were not so disciplined and proactive about taking
52:56
Speaker 1: products like yours. So I'm glad you answered that question.
52:59
Speaker 1: So now I know I have to be your lifetime customer.
53:03
Speaker 1: And and by the way, everybody you know, if you
53:06
Speaker 1: go on Amazon, there are so many products that are
53:09
Speaker 1: not scientifically backed. It's kind of disgusting and I and
53:14
Speaker 1: I never I'm not saying I want FBA approval for supplements.
53:17
Speaker 1: That's not not going to that extreme because the FDA
53:20
Speaker 1: has its own issues. However, I do feel that we
53:23
Speaker 1: should be very discerning about the supplements that we take
53:27
Speaker 1: and know that they've been third party tested or they've
53:30
Speaker 1: had you know, the scientific research like you've done for
53:34
Speaker 1: for all those years that are backing them up, and
53:38
Speaker 1: that there's not and that they are what they say
53:41
Speaker 1: they are, because many of these products have been tested
53:44
Speaker 1: and found that they don't have they don't contain what
53:46
Speaker 1: they say they do. So I'm not going against Amazon.
53:51
Speaker 1: I order there sometimes, but I always make sure that
53:53
Speaker 1: they who I'm ordering from on Amazon is the company,
53:57
Speaker 1: not some you know outlaw in China or somewhere that's
54:02
Speaker 1: mimicking that company. So I think that's really important. Well,
54:06
Speaker 1: so if people want to order your product on how
54:09
Speaker 1: do they do that?
54:11
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the Devil, they can order on Amazon
54:14
Speaker 2: if they prefer that. We have a doctor Lewis Nutrition
54:17
Speaker 2: store on Amazon, but we actually prefer people come to
54:20
Speaker 2: our website Doctor Lewis Nutrition dot com. That's Dr no
54:24
Speaker 2: Period Lewis Lwis Nutrition dot com we have just a
54:28
Speaker 2: ton of information on that website and they can learn
54:32
Speaker 2: all about all the research we've conducted, what went into
54:34
Speaker 2: the creation of Daily brain Care, and as you mentioned,
54:37
Speaker 2: we have it both in powder and capsule form. We
54:41
Speaker 2: are under the Doctor Lewis Nutrition channel on all the
54:44
Speaker 2: typical social media as well, so you can go to
54:48
Speaker 2: YouTube or Instagram or Facebook or even TikTok. I guess
54:52
Speaker 2: for the next month or two.
54:54
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's see, let's see if they can get.
54:57
Speaker 2: That exactly, see if that can us. But we have
55:01
Speaker 2: a lot of videos, especially on the YouTube channel, that
55:04
Speaker 2: are obviously shorter in nature. They're not as descriptive as
55:07
Speaker 2: all the information on the website. But we have product reviews,
55:10
Speaker 2: testimonial videos, all sorts of blogs, all sorts of links
55:13
Speaker 2: to podcasts like what I'm Doing with You Today. So
55:16
Speaker 2: really the website is the best source of information for
55:19
Speaker 2: people who like to read. And if people have questions,
55:22
Speaker 2: they can email us, they can give us a call.
55:24
Speaker 2: I'm always happy to help people with personal questions. Although
55:28
Speaker 2: we have a ton of information. Just on the FAQ
55:31
Speaker 2: section alone, we have a ton of information, So I
55:34
Speaker 2: would encourage people to go to our website and learn more.
55:37
Speaker 2: But again, if they have specific questions, they're more than
55:40
Speaker 2: welcome to reach out to us.
55:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing I want people to know
55:43
Speaker 1: is this is not some big conglomerate.
55:45
Speaker 4: You know, this is not definitely not Yeah, this is
55:48
Speaker 4: one man with a mission who has that right sports
55:52
Speaker 4: staff and who's passionate about helping people to be healthy.
55:57
Speaker 2: That's right.
55:57
Speaker 1: So I think that that in itself, the entrepreneurial and
56:01
Speaker 1: the kind of pioneer and warrior aspect of that is
56:05
Speaker 1: it's very American, and it's very it's very heartening that
56:09
Speaker 1: you you have stuck your neck out like you have
56:12
Speaker 1: to make this possible for all of us. So thank you, John. Well.
56:17
Speaker 1: So you know we are on all the major podcast sites,
56:20
Speaker 1: so and we also do reels after we'll be asking
56:23
Speaker 1: you to collaborate on reel so that we'll be promoting uh,
56:28
Speaker 1: your who you are on all of our social media.
56:31
Speaker 1: So we have we have a partnership established. Now you'll
56:34
Speaker 1: we'll be on yours and you'll be on ours and
56:38
Speaker 1: more and more if we get the word out to
56:40
Speaker 1: people that. That's why I spent a few moments saying
56:43
Speaker 1: about my own personal experience because I think people need
56:46
Speaker 1: to know that I'm not here. I don't even look
56:49
Speaker 1: at my podcasts as a commercial enterprise. I look at
56:52
Speaker 1: it as a philanthropic and that's why I don't do
56:56
Speaker 1: all these subscriber things like everybody else does, and I don't.
57:00
Speaker 1: I don't put now now, I will say that, you know,
57:02
Speaker 1: very often, if you want to do this, we can
57:04
Speaker 1: talk about it offline, but very often our guests want
57:08
Speaker 1: to give an incentive for the first time buyers of
57:12
Speaker 1: their products, just to they you know, give them, you know,
57:16
Speaker 1: some kind of an initial whatever, whether it's a discount
57:20
Speaker 1: or a free PDF or whatever. So is that something
57:23
Speaker 1: you want to do, Let me know that, and I'll
57:26
Speaker 1: put it on our website as part of people will
57:31
Speaker 1: be motivated to try. Even it isn't all. It isn't
57:34
Speaker 1: about price, because your price is a very reasonable and
57:38
Speaker 1: for what you're getting, so it's not that. But you know,
57:40
Speaker 1: everybody's watching their pocketbooks right now. So that's right. Oh,
57:44
Speaker 1: we had a great time. I love talking to you.
57:47
Speaker 1: I hope you felt the same.
57:49
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for having me. It's been my pleasure
57:51
Speaker 2: to be here with you today.
57:52
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you go get some sleep and take
57:55
Speaker 1: care of you. You need to stay healthy.
57:57
Speaker 2: Yes you much, thank you a bit, yeah,