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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E13 'The Good, Bad, and the Unknown' July 8, 2022 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  It's bonus time, we're honored Athletics, LLC would allow us to
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  present to you the audio version of their weekly Friday Night,
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  YouTube series. Let's get to and see what the
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  crew has in store this week. Hi people.
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  It's LLC time had. Hello.
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  All right. Well, as you can see all of our
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  faces, look a little rejuvenated.
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  So it's happening like, we're coming back up for happening.
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  I know right? Baby steps.
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  Baby steps. Welcome, once again, for another
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  fun episode of Athletics, LLC, season 3 and Kickin.
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  We're still here. We're still going and We got, we
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  had some fun stuff and as we get ready for world, but I have a
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  little bit of fun before we start making predictions.
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  Once again, you think we've created some point, but no, here
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  we are. We're going to make predictions
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  next week for World Championships.
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  So Clyde. How are you this evening?
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  Sir. Injured this evening but I'm
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  here. Traitor, traitor.
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  The governor. How are you tonight, sir?
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  Pretty good, pretty good. AC issues, but we'll get to the
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  bottom. Oh, really good thing is you
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  don't live someplace. Oh wait.
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  Yes you do. So basically what I heard is the
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  governor's recording with no pants on right now, he's got his
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  shirt. Nope, our car.
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  The car, the car that's actually a great idea.
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  Oh my God. So lucious, how are you tonight?
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  Sir I am absolutely wonderful. I am rolling as usual.
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  My friend love it, love it. What do we expect?
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  Otherwise solutions to any other.
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  I woke up this morning right time to get on the ground.
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  Exactly. Exactly last but not least, let
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  me slow down to this Mariano. Rivera Huffman's.
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  Okay, I got it. I looked a lot harder.
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  Yeah. That looked harder than it was.
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  All right here, that guy. Okay.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I came.
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  I came. I came in.
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  I came in to enter the sandman and I'm planning to save show,
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  and I'm going to call you cutter Huffman's for the show.
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  Yes, absolutely. I will.
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  I will respond to cut her husband's.
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  Alright. Alright.
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  Well After all those Shenanigans, let's do a thing.
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  Call some topics on this sport that we say we love track and
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  field so you know, the topic of contracts professional athletes
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  and I say in quotations professional because that's all
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  up to those who are hearing. Those words said out loud,
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  professional athletes contracts. And should they be disclosed
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  because we saw a tweet from Miss Steiner.
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  We had a whole plethora of people chiming in to sense as to
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  what her contract looks like. And it happens every time we
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  have someone new signs, something big in our sport, but
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  do we think that should check out these contracts be disclosed
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  Okay, Bueller. We're talking about this because
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  of her message. She put out via, you know,
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  social media in reference to this issue as much of a fan as I
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  am of Miss Steiner. And I am what she wrote was a
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  eloquent it was emotional, it was heartfelt, and it was dead
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  wrong. She's just wrong.
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  First of all, let's be clear about this.
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  When you become a professional athlete, in every sport that I
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  can think of Your contracts are public knowledge.
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  Hell, they do whole Extravaganza TV shows of based on, you know
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  how much money in NBA or NFL or even baseball and hockey are
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  getting paid and there's reasons for that.
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  But the biggest reason for me the reason that this particular
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  topic was so sad to watch her be so wrong about is I understand
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  you want. You know you privacy and
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  everything but here's the thing money, attracts money.
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  So one, if you're in the very, you know, small Club of people,
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  who in the sport, actually, make some decent money.
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  Oh, you want that information out there?
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  But it's kind of it's always use the analogy.
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  It's kind of like voting rights, right?
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  There's a reason that certain politicians and certain sects of
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  our population work really really hard to make it difficult
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  to vote because voting matters. Money attracts money.
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  There's a reason why track and field contracts are supposed to
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  be secretive and that they basically make you sign an NDA.
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  So you can't put it out there in the public, it's because they're
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  trying to keep you all broke. Money attracts money.
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  And if everybody's contracts were public knowledge, the
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  public would instantly see how poorly and ill-paid.
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  Our sport, our athletes in the sport are.
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  So the fact that the athlete even go along with this idea of
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  the contracts need to be secretive and no one should know
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  how they work and we don't dare talk about it.
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  You're only working against yourselves and so, you know,
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  It's a completely backwards phenomenon that everybody needs
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  to get past and get over but every other industry also has
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  floors for how much professional athletes, get paid, and of
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  course, track and field doesn't have any floors.
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  So they don't so Nike Adidas wherever they don't want the
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  world to know that they're only paying shoot 20 thousand dollars
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  and they're paying Huff 700k a year.
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  They don't want to know that because the difference in their
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  marks might only be a tenth of a second.
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  They don't want you all to know how this works and that's why
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  it's supposed to be secretive, but it shouldn't be and get over
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  it. Oh, I stick.
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  I will run the back stretch on this one.
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  So, look, this is really simple, folks in track and field.
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  Listen up, please, pay attention track and field athletes in
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  track and field coaches alike. You don't make anywhere near
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  your market value and in the pantheon of Athletics almost
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  solely because you're too secretive about how much money
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  you don't make. Half the reason track and field
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  coach has, as a whole not, all of, and have to reason why track
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  and field athletes as a whole. Not all of our broke is because
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  they keep their salaries secret. If everybody knew what you
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  meant, there would be a whole faction of people who would say,
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  man for, as hard as you guys work, your soul, crazily.
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  Underpaid man, given what you guys do, and what women's
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  basketball does, and what Ken Does.
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  And what golf does man? You guys really don't make any
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  money, so there would actually be Advocates to advocate for
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  track and field athletes to unionize.
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  Have a floor. Have what's it what the
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  insurance have collective bargaining have?
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  Medical have all those things but no, we want to keep the fact
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  that, you know, I make 60 and you know, sir Lucius makes Ian
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  and next year, when when, when the governor comes out, right,
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  you know, his contract is going to be 628.
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  But don't tell anybody because we don't want, we don't want
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  solutions to get met. Listen, listen folks a high tide
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  raises all boats. You can't come out of college
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  having run fast, but didn't run fast enough in the semi to make
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  the final. So they give you, they begrudge
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  you a contract that's, you know, fifteen thousand dollars a year,
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  plus bonuses that you feel are achievable, but aren't because
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  you won't ever get in any of the lanes that necessary to make
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  these things happen, right? Like you would never sign that
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  contract. If that contract never existed
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  in that contract wouldn't exist, if It was public because they
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  would be like you can't pay someone fifteen thousand dollars
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  a year. Plus bonuses.
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  That's not a contract, right? You can't pay somebody $0.00 but
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  we get look, we all know that this is a deal.
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  Hey, gear and bonuses deal. We every one of us on this
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  screen knows that, that is legitimately a contract that is
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  offered gear and bonuses. That is zero dollars and zero
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  cents and kill what you eat. That's what that is.
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  Are you still get taxed? Yes.
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  Sodexo mechanics, you will tax you on the equipment, that's it.
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  So I'm not going to stick in hand off to so lucious.
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  Yeah, because I definitely will run the bend on this one.
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  I mean, this is simple for me and Clyde.
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  You're right. This is a lot more interesting
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  topic than I thought it would be.
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  If you're a football coach experience, okay?
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  You automatically know the ad knows where you go, right for
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  the track and field coach, there's not there.
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  Right. So let's look at the business of
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  track and field, you come to the world championship the Olympic
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  Games, or even some of the bigger Diamond League meets in
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  the stadium is packed, right? And the people that are in the
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  show, are not the ones making the money.
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  We have CEOs of companies, USA Track and Field to begin with.
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  They make a million dollars a year, okay?
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  Very few people in track and field, the athletes themselves,
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  make a million a year. So by that, by salary, oh, it's
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  probably less than five. Exactly.
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  And that's my point. So at the end of the day like
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  it's just it's been skewed horribly.
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  And when it comes to the athlete, just like when it comes
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  to the coaches, if the contracts are made public and you're
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  right, you know, if I find out somebody's making a dollar more
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  than I am, and I'm not the guy going over there, right?
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  Screaming beloved. So that person better than me.
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  Right? I've got this.
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  And they've done that. So like you asked That question.
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  But you can't ask the question if you don't know.
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  So, as long as they're allowed to keep it secret, I mean, we
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  know like the gear deals. You know, like I had a exact
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  from one of the major shoe companies, say to me, we can't
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  give the smaller contracts, meaning the 75,000 dollar
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  contracts, because we're paying everybody else way too much
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  money, you're stunting, the development of track and field.
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  But once again, you know, if the athletes would let people know
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  that This is happening to me, that it wouldn't happen.
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  So you guys are right, you know, it should be public and then if
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  it becomes public because the moment, the track of what
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  athletes stand up and demand that, we're going to have a
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  union and quit, paying you guys follow me on for our efforts.
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  Yeah, and Dennis portal. Get better.
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  Governor, take it home, brother. So I'm I'm, I'm going to take
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  another approach to this and and, You know.
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  We've been dealing with the same issue for decades, right?
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  It's this, I mean, Le Mariano can can can attest to this.
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  Here's kind of a mindset where we almost felt like we had to
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  keep it secret, right? Because God forbid were in a
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  room with our peers, right? And I'm an eight, sixty jumper
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  and I go say, you know hey 820 jumper, what have you made And
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  God forbid, he comes out and says, I'm making a number bigger
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  than you, right? So within the track Community,
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  right? The mindset, you know, there is
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  this mindset where we kind of have to go in there.
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  As, you know, kind of like a trojan horse, you know, like
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  I've got my little piece of the pie and I'm happy with this much
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  this piece of the pie and I'm good, right?
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  But the point, I'm the point I want to get to is, I'll never
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  forget doing my masters in Sports Marketing at Florida
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  State and One of the things that we forgive you for that, by the
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  way, but Mom story, you know, love is love but so I'm taking
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  this class and they talked about the first million-dollar
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  contract in pro sports, right? And I'm going to, I'm going to
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  focus on on baseball here. Okay.
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  Okay. Can anyone guess who the first
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  million-dollar baseball player was?
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  I'll throw you a softball. Use a picture asking, say it's a
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  picture and I can see his face. Humming, you know, we don't have
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  that kind of time. Texas Rangers, why?
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  Four years, four point five million dollars in 1979.
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  Okay. The reaction was are you fucking
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  crazy? Are you paying someone to throw
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  a ball, a million dollars a year, right?
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  Yep. That was the reaction in 1979.
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  You got people trying to put food on their plate.
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  You're going to pay this person. But guess what?
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  Also, When people showed up because they had to see what
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  this looks like. What does someone making a
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  million dollars a year? Look, like I have to see it.
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  I have to be there after see it, right.
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  And where are we at in baseball now?
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  Yeah, that's okay. That's what my point.
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  Yes. Yeah so I mean I meant when
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  Barry when Barry signed his deal to go to the Giants and it was
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  like 7.9 million A year like, literally everybody was like
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  he's gonna break baseball. Yeah. so, so my point is this I
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  remember sitting in the stands. When bolt ran the 4 by 1 at Penn
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  relays. And it was the craziest thing
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  I've ever seen 30 minutes before he was supposed to run the
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  stands were half empty. The gun goes off, the stands are
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  packed, he crosses a line waves to the crowd.
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  Okay, 30 minutes later crowds, half-empty people got on the
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  train from New York, people came from all, because guess what?
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  It wasn't just, you know, yes, it was bold, but they also knew
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  this man was me. King multi-millions of dollars.
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  They knew that it was public knowledge, right?
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  Money makes it relevant, it does.
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  I mean, we already makes it relevant what, and what Society
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  do we live in? We live in a society that
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  responds to the outrageous they respond to these things.
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  We remember where we were when MJ and Donovan lined up for a
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  million dollars. We remember that.
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  All right, that was a moment. Okay, so you know for someone in
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  her position in Abby's position, let's just say she's, you know,
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  whatever the contract is, all right?
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  It's supposed to be news. It's supposed to be something,
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  right? Hey, better be here, talking
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  about, right? And it needs to be something
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  that, okay? Somebody else can aspire.
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  To do as well. Absolutely, right.
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  Okay. It's like, so, the Mario and I
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  had this conversation early, right?
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  And we figured out that there was one Collegiate track coach,
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  whose salary was more than the entire staff of another school.
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  You're right, okay. Now and what world is that,
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  right? Especially when the guy whose
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  intent self and his entire staff are making less than that.
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  Guy are expected to beat that guy, right?
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  So where's that? Where's the equity in that
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  situation? But again, if you know, all of
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  this use and here's the sad part, the ades, no trust.
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  No. Absolutely, but nobody talks
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  about it, you know, there's Whispers in the hallways but
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  nobody wants to talk about the fact of the iniquity.
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  So I agree with you guys like if it's public, then it can be
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  bantered about. It can be talked about it.
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  Elevates raises, the floor is Clyde likes to say, right?
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  It makes everybody better. Absolutely.
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  That's so, you know, obviously there's And it's been reported
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  that she's going to get two million dollars.
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  Clearly, that's apparently not the deal anymore, was never the
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  deal. But let's say a b Steiner and
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  some World got two million dollars a year.
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  First of all, great for a be Steiner if that ever happens.
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  Second of all great for track and field because salute member
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  go back and remember this, remember when Candice Hill got
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  her big deal? Yeah, right.
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  And then all of a sudden Rimmel and to grayskin big deal, you
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  know all of a sudden you got highwomen High school athletes
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  sign in to for 250 to 300 thousand dollars out of high
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  school. Yeah.
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  Okay. If those things that were
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  happening, it's not public. Then the following didn't happen
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  either. Absolutely I mean my our sport
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  can't be the only sport where the rules of the rest of the
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  world don't apply right. Like if Abby Steiner or Joe
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  family or whoever in this new class when Sid for whence it
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  came out and got the contract if Contract isn't ESPN worthy, but
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  it becomes knowledge on ESPN, then everybody's going to get
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  more money. Hmm, yes, leaky Dam contract.
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  If you have to, I don't care how you do it, but the see what is
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  not actually. I'm glad you said, because the
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  EP and I talked about this also, you know, Kareem and the
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  governor did a lot people favors when he, when he, when he talked
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  about Lonnie greens contract, right?
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  A lot. He's like, you're talking like
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  it's absolutely out there, brother.
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  Kentucky is doing this. If I need to get my program were
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  Kentucky's is, you know, not even get there.
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  Don't get me wrong. I am in no way.
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  Am I details on the internet, but if it gives their then good
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  for the people that read it, right?
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  I'm not well. Okay, so let's go back to
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  something. Okay?
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  It is funny, you brought up your contract and I was, I was
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  waffling because I didn't want to embarrass you, but I'm going
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  to say it, like this, not this contract, but I know for sure
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  that at least two of you, remember this?
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  When sir, lucious signed his last contract, which I'm
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  assuming this next thing is an extension.
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  Does anybody else remember the seminal moment for moment for
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  track and field because I was watching college baseball, and
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  across the ticker goes University of Florida signs,
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  Mike Holloway to 10-year contract.
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  Didn't even listen, it didn't say the details.
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  That's right. That's right.
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  That's right, buddy. Okay.
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  Listen, a track coach is contract made the ticker, right?
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  Because he signed a 10-year deal.
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  Yeah, it could have been 10 years, three dollars.
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  We obviously, we knew it wasn't right, but the point is, the
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  point is to Clyde's to Clyde's point, right?
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  It was ESPN. Also read as newsworthy.
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  Absolutely. You know why?
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  Because guess what? Somebody in the sport of track
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  and Field's being Treated like an adult.
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  It's a 10-year contract that's not ridiculous.
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  In any other sport it's ridiculous as hell and track,
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  right? But it's listen, if somebody
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  signed Charlie Weis, signed a 10-year contract extension with
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  Notre Dame after a year where they 18 damn games.
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  Yeah, that's right. And that will call it the, or
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  the excitement that ran through the east in the west prelim.
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  When the announcement was made about my contract, Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. Like literally for it was
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  announced like right before the meat started it when the East.
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  Yeah. And at least 100 people
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  congratulated me that at least, if not more.
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  And that's that's where I'm at. And this this has to start in
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  the first world problems part of this, right?
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  Yeah, no, I'm gonna say it again.
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  Track athletes until your money becomes news.
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  Worthy. Just understand you're all
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  underpaid. Every last one, all of you are
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  underpaid. So oh, it's not a date.
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  It is underpaid. Shelly-Ann.
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  Fraser prices under pay your Allison, been underpaid.
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  You guys weren't all underpaid and you know, you are because
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  ain't nobody talking about how much money you think so client?
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  This, this gets back to the first point I made.
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  When Nolan Ryan was the first, okay?
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  I mean, I would love for somebody to ask him what his
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  mindset was when he trotted out there to throw that first pitch
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  after that. And out that contract was
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  signed, right? Because he had to feel the
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  stairs. In the back of his neck, he had
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  to feel when he walked out in that Stadium people going.
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  All right. This is going to be the
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  ultimate. This is going to blow up in his
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  face. This is going to be something.
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  That you know Major League Baseball will regret for the
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  rest of time, right? We'll all be here remembering uh
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  remember that do they paid a million dollars look at him now
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  right 44 years four and a half million right?
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  Trout makes four and a half million every four minutes.
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  So so the point is this Who is going to be that so bolt?
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  Was that person next bullet? I mean, but I mean only only
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  kind of though because no one knows bolts contract for real.
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  Well. Exactly.
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  Yeah. Nobody knew what Karl's contract
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  was. Yep.
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  Exactly. So now it's speaking.
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  You're going to my point now. Mr. Rivera so basically we know
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  that both signed a lifetime contract, we don't know what it
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  was for, we don't know. I know that Carl has a lifetime
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  contract, right? We don't know what it's for,
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  right? We know.
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  So these are things that how our young athletes going to Aspire
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  to something if they don't know what it is, what is it?
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  What is the Pinnacle and to your point about the eyes on Nolan
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  Ryan or what? He must have felt like and all
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  that does that. Well, you know what, the fact
• 25:10
  that he could handle that is what makes him one of the
• 25:12
  all-time greats. Absolutely.
• 25:14
  If you're the type of athlete who can't handle everybody
• 25:18
  knowing what you make as if that's some kind of added
• 25:21
  pressure will maybe that'll be the reason that you don't have
• 25:24
  the mentality to become what you could become in this sport like
• 25:29
  that. You got to The way from the fear
• 25:30
  of that like, man that can't be it thing that can't be the
• 25:35
  issue. And so that I would say, the
• 25:37
  client, the track world makes you feel that everything, the
• 25:43
  culture it's a cultural thing. Yes.
• 25:46
  Well, speaking of the cultural thing is kind of the crab in the
• 25:50
  buckets thing, right? You don't want you to make a lot
• 25:52
  of money because I'm not making absolutely.
• 25:54
  I want you to see now here with me and suffer with me.
• 25:57
  Yeah, you know, and and again, we have to start At the Elder
• 26:00
  has to be something done to stop with, you know, as cutter calls
• 26:06
  it. The broke fresh broke, rational
• 26:09
  side of this, right? We have to stop the gear deals.
• 26:12
  We have to stop the bonus deals. We have to stop paying people.
• 26:16
  Twenty five thousand dollars a year to represent your company.
• 26:20
  Yeah. Right.
• 26:21
  Because it's just wrong. I mean, $25.
• 26:24
  You can make that work at McDonald's.
• 26:27
  Make more Network in the mood. I know, right?
• 26:29
  So I don't care what disciplinary because we got 21
• 26:32
  events, right? I don't care.
• 26:33
  What disciplinary. If you're the tenth best on the
• 26:37
  globe at whatever it is that you do, right?
• 26:41
  You're paid extremely well. Except in track and field.
• 26:45
  Yeah. I give the governor and all of
• 26:48
  Cowboys Nation a lot of flack. Okay?
• 26:52
  Yes, you do. A deal where he gets paid forty
• 26:56
  million dollars a year now. Whether he learns that or not
• 27:02
  he's not overpaid. He's paid with the market will
• 27:05
  bear him. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Because he got 40 million, everybody else is like, hold on.
• 27:11
  Hold up. Yes.
• 27:13
  That dude got 40 baby? Yeah, I'll pay me.
• 27:16
  You're absolutely so. What?
• 27:19
  Well, that's why, that's why the agents and, and the lawyers who
• 27:23
  put together and the NBA Players Association.
• 27:27
  Listen I'm a I'm not going to And up but they get a standing
• 27:30
  ovation. Okay?
• 27:31
  Because this is what I need everybody.
• 27:32
  Understand. The NBA Players Association,
• 27:38
  they applauded the NBA commissioner and all them to go
• 27:41
  get bigger and better TV deals. And then they hit them, straight
• 27:45
  across the face and the collective bargaining agreement,
• 27:47
  and I need everybody to know this who doesn't know this by
• 27:51
  collective bargaining agreement, the NBA owners are required to
• 27:57
  spend 55 percent of the total revenue.
• 28:00
  What that comes from folks is transparency.
• 28:03
  Go back, watch the show. Talked about what is missing the
• 28:06
  most in the sport of track and field is transparency, right?
• 28:09
  But what that comes from is transparency, they are required
• 28:13
  to spend 55 percent of the total gross.
• 28:17
  Revenue on players, that is why there are dudes in the NBA who
• 28:21
  make 40 million dollars a year, who you don't know, Because look
• 28:26
  I it happened this year, the Oklahoma City Thunder have a
• 28:30
  really young team. They did a bunch of tanking,
• 28:32
  right? And they're preparing to be good
• 28:33
  again, right? But right now on the roster, the
• 28:37
  guys they have, they're so young and there's limits to how much
• 28:41
  you can pay younger players that they had to pay a guy 46 million
• 28:44
  dollars because he was standing there.
• 28:49
  They had to pay him 46 million dollars to be in compliance with
• 28:52
  NBA rules. So if anybody's wondering what
• 28:55
  we're talking about is true, like hello?
• 28:57
  This is it when I say again High Tides, raise all boats.
• 29:02
  If everybody knows what everybody makes and track nobody
• 29:05
  can be completely broken anymore.
• 29:08
  No shoe company can come at Clyde and say we're going to
• 29:10
  give you zero dollars and zero cents but we're going to give
• 29:14
  you some really nice kit. The bi-level kit at that and
• 29:17
  we're not going to give you the super spikes because you got to
• 29:20
  earn that. They can't do that anymore.
• 29:26
  Right think they wouldn't be able to continue to cut
• 29:29
  veterans, like like Allyson Felix to sign the new young hot
• 29:33
  thing, right? But still want, the still want
• 29:35
  the veteran Allan Felix to go out Allyson Felix to go win us
• 29:38
  medals, right? They couldn't do those things.
• 29:41
  If we were professional. But we're not and this is the
• 29:45
  thing we keep trying to get people to get it's like a floor
• 29:50
  is required collective bargaining is a is required
• 29:54
  transparency on both sides. We can't ask for the meat
• 29:57
  directors to tell us how much money they make if we're not
• 30:01
  willing to tell the public how much we make.
• 30:07
  Right there with you. So and putting it in different
• 30:11
  terms, same concept thing about empowering the athletes to
• 30:15
  advocate for themselves because if they don't know what to ask
• 30:18
  for because they don't know. So they think that these gear
• 30:21
  deals are okay and they get screwed by the taxes and then
• 30:24
  they still don't make that bonus money.
• 30:27
  And so you're super duper broke And now you've been running for
• 30:30
  nothing and you should have just been taking that regular job or
• 30:33
  whatever it is on top of the, because I had this conversation
• 30:39
  at the national meet this year was well, coach.
• 30:43
  I think that if this works the way it's supposed to, I should
• 30:48
  be able to make this with this agent and then I'll be okay.
• 30:53
  And I was like, whoa. Hold on, hold on a minute.
• 30:58
  That's very lofty. And that that was a low number
• 31:01
  that the student-athlete said already and I said that's lofty.
• 31:05
  I said you bless you but this isn't going to happen this way.
• 31:10
  I just need you to know that, you know, and he didn't
• 31:12
  understand and I was like, we're gonna have a conversation.
• 31:15
  This is not the right time or other night, right environment.
• 31:18
  So enjoy the rest of this meet we'll talk later.
• 31:21
  I'll get you to somebody but it's when we blindfold everybody
• 31:25
  Now that we have this perception, right?
• 31:27
  That's why we get these recruiting emails from these.
• 31:32
  13, s hurdlers. And we don't realize that it
• 31:33
  says, 100 hurdles, I'm sorry, 15 second hundred meter hurdle or
• 31:39
  is. And we, yeah, you get where I'm
• 31:40
  going because there's this blindness to it and man
• 31:46
  knowledge is power. If I can't say that any louder
• 31:48
  to everybody regarding this situation, knowledge is power,
• 31:51
  and don't be ashamed. If you got paid, we're it loud
• 31:55
  and proud because you're going to roll in it, right?
• 31:58
  You going to buy a new car stereo car.
• 32:14
  All right. Well, with that being said,
• 32:17
  someone who definitely wash it. I shouldn't say definitely cause
• 32:21
  I don't know, someone who has a contract and is worked.
• 32:23
  Well, Being prosperous thus far, miss you Lamar Rojas and her
• 32:31
  name is come up very quickly and very aggressively recently in
• 32:34
  the news because her triple jump, Mark is not being.
• 32:39
  Given long jump, long jump bikes, not getting credited
• 32:44
  because of that. Let's let's grow that
• 32:46
  conversation. I'm throwing that out there for
• 32:49
  you all as the basis. I want to start on this one
• 32:55
  course he said, okay. if it's a rule, it should always be a
• 33:03
  rule. So when she showed up to the
• 33:06
  meat too long jump, and triple jump shoes, somebody should have
• 33:10
  said, well, here's my little thing, and the thickness of
• 33:14
  these shoes is too high. Therefore, you can't jump in
• 33:17
  them. When I'm not going to do, and
• 33:19
  what I'm not going to accept is I jump really far and the meat
• 33:23
  goes and the meat goes on, and the Mark goes up and I get
• 33:27
  ballyhooed for it and I get paid for it and I'm qualified for
• 33:31
  worlds. And then the week before
• 33:33
  world's, somebody lobs a protest, all of a sudden, and
• 33:40
  there's a obscure rule about thickness of shoes that nobody
• 33:45
  has discussed and all of a sudden, now, my mark doesn't
• 33:47
  count. Yeah, no, we're not doing that.
• 33:50
  That's not a thing. And again, again, in no, other
• 33:56
  profession. Is that a thing, right?
• 33:59
  Look, there are parameters for the skates.
• 34:02
  You can use in hockey and there's parameters, believe it
• 34:05
  or not. For the amount of curvature, you
• 34:06
  allowed that you are allowed to create in your hockey stick,
• 34:10
  right? So at no point in time can you
• 34:13
  go out on the water and ice for their legal?
• 34:15
  Stick score goal and not somebody.
• 34:16
  Not say hey, that's Sticks illegal.
• 34:19
  We check it. We throw you out.
• 34:21
  There's rules about how much pine tar you can have on a bat.
• 34:25
  There's rules about everything, right, but what ain't ever
• 34:28
  happened and no other real sport is we go back retroactively and
• 34:31
  say nah, that didn't count No other real sport no shot.
• 34:38
  That's like saying the Golden Goal that happened.
• 34:40
  In the world cup doesn't happen because like you got on illegal
• 34:42
  boots and the ball was over inflated.
• 34:44
  I'm sorry what? Like this is insanity and again,
• 34:51
  only our sport would ever be on board with taking away one of
• 34:56
  our best shining stars in an event.
• 35:03
  On some obscure made-up technicality.
• 35:08
  Are we serious with this one? Like this is not a thing but it
• 35:16
  isn't track because we love to over officiate ourselves on
• 35:21
  erroneous and non perfunctory things.
• 35:27
  We should go next because everything I have to say is
• 35:29
  petty. Okay, this topic Force me to go
• 35:40
  find the actual document. There is an athletic shoe
• 35:44
  regulation document. And I think each one of you need
• 35:50
  to see this document because there's some rules and
• 35:53
  regulations in this document it while it was that I say is wild
• 36:00
  in it. Absolutely.
• 36:02
  And there's one in particular, there's a, there's a section
• 36:06
  called availability. And I'm not going to, I'm not
• 36:10
  even gonna speak on it. Oh no.
• 36:12
  Yes, you are. You're here to educate.
• 36:16
  Well, it basically says, if you are wearing a shoe, right?
• 36:20
  And you shoe that shoe needs to be made available, All right.
• 36:27
  No, yeah, that was the devil's. A big deal with the Nike shoe
• 36:29
  last year. Yeah.
• 36:30
  What's the big deal that started with the Nike marathon?
• 36:33
  Oh shoot. That's why as a matter of fact,
• 36:35
  that's where that's where the thickness started to write.
• 36:39
  So that, that in itself for us, that understand track and field,
• 36:47
  and that understand the elite side of track and field.
• 36:51
  That is an absolute joke, okay? So I'll leave it.
• 36:58
  But this is an issue, okay? In the long jump field events
• 37:06
  except the triple jump, the maximum thickness can be 20 cm
• 37:13
  in the triple jump. It can be 25.
• 37:15
  Wait, mm. Mm.
• 37:18
  Mm. Happy CM would be awesome.
• 37:23
  Yeah. Yes.
• 37:27
  So We're talking about an issue of 5, mm, right?
• 37:34
  That was the difference between this young lady, getting to
• 37:38
  compete at the world championships in the long jump.
• 37:42
  Which anybody? That is a fan of Rojas wants to
• 37:47
  see that. Okay, well, I want to see the
• 37:50
  double at a major championship, probably, as bad as I want.
• 37:52
  See anything. What, what are we doing here?
• 37:58
  So we're talking about another opportunity.
• 38:02
  To put seeds in the stands to put, put butts in seats to watch
• 38:08
  this young lady. Go after the long jump and
• 38:10
  triple jump, right? I mean, anyone that's watching
• 38:14
  this young woman knows she's a seven-meter jumper All day every
• 38:19
  day, does it? Matter long, jump, triple, jump
• 38:22
  spikes, Sprint, spikes. It doesn't matter if she is that
• 38:25
  good, okay? And yet, we have a technicality,
• 38:31
  it's gotten in the way of perhaps.
• 38:35
  A group and the group of individuals that were thinking
• 38:40
  about this, that have that follow track and field.
• 38:43
  And our bought tickets to see this young lady compete.
• 38:48
  Okay, this is what happens when you make rules.
• 38:55
  That complicate things you're talking about, the long jump in
• 39:02
  the triple jump. Okay.
• 39:06
  I mean, I could compare this to some some of the rules that were
• 39:09
  try to throw in the horizontal. I remember there was a point in
• 39:13
  time where the approach couldn't be longer than 40 meters.
• 39:17
  Yep. And that turned out to be an
• 39:21
  absolute, the Buckle and absolute debacle.
• 39:26
  Because there were a few people that complain that their indoor
• 39:31
  Runway wasn't long enough. Okay, so then you go to meets
• 39:36
  where the indoor Runway was long enough and you're like, what are
• 39:42
  we doing here? So, I think it's unfortunate for
• 39:47
  this young lady. I think it's unfortunate for
• 39:50
  track fans in general. That they're not going to see
• 39:54
  her go out there and do what we know that she can do and it's
• 40:00
  probably going to be a sideshow, it's going to turn out to be a
• 40:02
  sideshow because somebody is going to complain about it.
• 40:05
  Somebody's going to bring it up in a press conference or
• 40:07
  whatever and you're getting away from the sport.
• 40:15
  Think about what a steals from us, right.
• 40:17
  We don't get to see Rojas versus mahom bro.
• 40:20
  Yes, oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
• 40:23
  Okay, hold on for non-metric speaking audience, but we don't
• 40:28
  speak to those people. Oh my God!
• 40:30
  Stop it! It is less than two-tenths of a
• 40:34
  knee. Will bow people alone.
• 40:43
  Point one, nine seven point, one nine, seven of an inch of an
• 40:50
  inch. I'm going to make the governor
• 40:52
  and The Mariano very upset in the beginning but I think I'm
• 40:58
  going to bring them on home again.
• 41:02
  In sport, sometimes we have rules.
• 41:07
  The people don't agree. I don't know if this rule is a
• 41:14
  rule, I don't know if this rule is backed up by any actual
• 41:19
  science. I'm going to assume that it is
• 41:22
  and 5. Mm, could be some dramatic.
• 41:26
  Competitive Advantage. It's a rule.
• 41:30
  It's on the books. You're a professional your coach
• 41:35
  or professionals. Your agents are professionals.
• 41:38
  Know the rules. Don't let this.
• 41:40
  Happened to you. That's my first piece of this.
• 41:45
  Is it a stupid rule? Probably the Tuck Rule was a
• 41:50
  stupid rule, but it was a rule and because the Tuck Rule was a
• 41:56
  stupid rule, but in the books, Tom Brady, never fumbled the
• 41:59
  ball now, it doesn't matter what we think about it. 20 years
• 42:04
  later, the rule was the rule, the call was accurate, it is
• 42:08
  what it is now. I'm personally disappointed a
• 42:13
  little pissed off at. I'm not going to get to watch,
• 42:16
  Mister Rojas, dude, long jump. Because personally, I think you
• 42:19
  can put her out there barefoot and she still going to get a
• 42:21
  medal, okay? So since our sport is famous for
• 42:27
  making up rules. As we go along from time to time
• 42:30
  I say you put her out there barefoot, you let her jump a
• 42:34
  qualification Mark and we go on about our business.
• 42:38
  But here's the thing, and I don't have any evidence for
• 42:42
  this. But I'd be willing to put up
• 42:45
  some money. I want to know where the protest
• 42:50
  came from, I want to know who filed it.
• 42:53
  And if it came out of Germany, I'm not going to be surprised.
• 42:57
  Let's just say that. Because listen, it's real late
• 43:04
  for us to be finding this out. Because if I'm Rojas in her camp
• 43:09
  and you told me this 23 months ago or even 30 days ago, I'm
• 43:14
  pretty certain. I could have found a track and
• 43:16
  gone and junked what? I need to jump, but you drop
• 43:19
  this on me now. If the Germans submitted the
• 43:24
  protest I need to know that feels like a very teddy thing to
• 43:29
  do and therefore I want Petty exposure whoever's responsible
• 43:34
  for this because the double was absolutely something.
• 43:39
  I was going to be in the stands for and now I got to tell you.
• 43:42
  I'm very disinterested in the women's long time.
• 43:47
  I have only a very few things to say about this is just wrong on
• 43:52
  so many levels. And at the end of the day that
• 43:56
  we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot, we have an absolute
• 43:59
  superstar in our sport to be going to make sit in the stands
• 44:02
  or watch him or hotel. Or well, she probably be gone
• 44:05
  because the triple jump first. So she probably just leave, you
• 44:08
  know, but to have her not be a part of this competition on such
• 44:11
  a thing as just not right. So Shame One World Athletics.
• 44:16
  Again, listen, we have all been to Oregon many many times.
• 44:20
  A lot of us know our way around that facility since the triple
• 44:23
  jump is first, I petition that the MS.
• 44:27
  Rojas goes out there, breaks her own world record in the triple
• 44:30
  jump, and then some of us somehow some way, slide her out
• 44:34
  there for a long jump. And just take one, even if they
• 44:38
  toss her out the stadium. Just take one because this is BS
• 44:43
  at snare. Going to happen.
• 44:44
  It can happen to know what can happen.
• 44:46
  There's a lot of that Stadium, make it happen.
• 44:49
  So yeah, king of pettiness. Do we remember?
• 44:55
  I don't know how many of us were on Twitter when a certain coach
• 45:03
  blurted out that SIDS that race, she ran at the American track
• 45:07
  League was not legal. Do you remember who did that?
• 45:10
  It was those bowls cups. Okay, so okay, you, you are onto
• 45:23
  something. If you are
• 45:46
  You know what? I'm here for.
• 45:47
  I'm here. For Rojas going to a meet this
• 45:50
  weekend. Jumping like 710.
• 45:52
  Just to spite and then declining to enter.
• 45:57
  I need something appropriately. Betty to match her being tossed
• 46:02
  out. Absolutely need to see the
• 46:03
  bullet in America. When we file a protest, you got
• 46:06
  to sign your name to it. I want to see the protest.
• 46:09
  I want to see the email. If it's got a at Germany
• 46:13
  dot-gov. On it.
• 46:14
  I want to see it. He said that Germany.
• 46:16
  Dad go. We should have those at lane.
• 46:22
  Or I'm not going to out the other NCAA institutions.
• 46:27
  Host a all comers meet. Hey, So so wow.
• 46:36
  Wow. All right, so a little more, I
• 46:40
  mean, not even, even more. Another entertaining topic
• 46:45
  specifically this time of year is the portal.
• 46:49
  The question is, is the portal good bad or indifferent
• 46:55
  endeavor? Yeah, I will go first two years
• 47:00
  because I know Cloud was going to tell me to go first.
• 47:04
  He was Good in some terms because now
• 47:30
  the athletes have the freedom to do you not to be you know,
• 47:33
  strong-armed into staying in places they don't want to be.
• 47:37
  I think it's bad in that. Now the athlete can just get
• 47:41
  angry and jump in the portal. Because what coach said you had
• 47:44
  a bad practice, right? I think it's eventually going to
• 47:48
  hurt the smaller institutions and two ways one, because the
• 47:53
  people in the portal, no matter, You know, they'll take a smaller
• 47:58
  scholarship to go to a bigger School than versus going to one
• 48:01
  of the smaller schools just because they want to be
• 48:02
  successful. And it on the other side of the
• 48:05
  two is if you're at a smaller school it said happy comes to
• 48:09
  you at 47 seconds and runs 45. They're going in the portal and
• 48:14
  so it just kind of a catch-22 on both sides, but I think the
• 48:18
  freedom of the athlete being able to choose where they want
• 48:21
  to go to school versus, you know, when the password, the
• 48:24
  coach could would allow them to talk to her.
• 48:26
  Two dudes that they want to leave.
• 48:29
  I think that's a good part of the portal, but make no doubt
• 48:33
  about it. The portal is here, it's alive.
• 48:36
  It's hot and it's it's here to stay.
• 48:40
  It is old on, so lucious. Will you please State what your
• 48:43
  initial feeling was about the portal?
• 48:45
  So that it done - okay? A lot better and I watch, you
• 49:02
  know, and we were still good, but I'm like, if I don't play
• 49:05
  this game, I'm not gonna be able to keep up, so I had to play the
• 49:10
  game. There was no doubt about that
• 49:12
  because initially, I thought this is, this is going to be
• 49:13
  bad. And let's go, we talked about
• 49:15
  this, the high schoolers are once again screwed here.
• 49:18
  Yeah, right. Yeah, definitely Boomer.
• 49:21
  The Late Bloomer. You got?
• 49:22
  Well, I got this high school kid.
• 49:24
  Just ran 46 5. He hasn't been Signed yet but
• 49:28
  the portals about to get hot. So I'm going to wait on the
• 49:30
  portal and then there's a guy in the port of the runs 45 50, I'm
• 49:33
  taking him. That's just that's the way it's
• 49:37
  going to work, but you're right big-league.
• 49:39
  I wanted nothing to do with the portal, to begin to change my
• 49:42
  mind quickly. No, yes!
• 49:44
  That that speaks to Sir lucious's ability to adapt and
• 49:48
  evolve because that's my point. The portal is A necessary evil
• 49:55
  portal is Darwinism. The portal is America.
• 50:00
  It is what it is. You're unhappy and go shop.
• 50:07
  Is it in your best interest? It might be it.
• 50:09
  Most definitely is not for most of them, but we celebrate
• 50:12
  delusional people in America. This is what we do.
• 50:17
  So I'm I've always been from day one.
• 50:20
  A huge advocate of the portal. Because he's right, I have the
• 50:26
  freedom to recruit the best class in school history and then
• 50:31
  dip out to a new job, then the kid should have the right to do
• 50:35
  what they want to do. And they feel they need to do
• 50:37
  it. I wish they were better
• 50:40
  educated. I wish they were less delusional
• 50:43
  because the truth of the matter is, the vast majority of them,
• 50:46
  don't find what they're seeking, they don't find the better coach
• 50:50
  for more money at the school. They've always wanted to go to
• 50:53
  Now, you might get one of those three, you might get to school.
• 50:57
  You always wanted. You may get the coach, you
• 51:01
  always thought you deserved you damn sure, probably not gonna
• 51:05
  get the money but, you know, if you want to put yourself in
• 51:09
  there and Shop your options, it's America.
• 51:13
  You go right ahead and do that, and hopefully it works out for
• 51:16
  you. I just think it's a necessary
• 51:18
  part of the business. It's not going away this year.
• 51:21
  They've implemented the the, for our sport, at least the rule
• 51:25
  where you had to be in there by July 1st or there are He
• 51:30
  consequences than going in there later.
• 51:32
  I don't even like that. I don't, because last I checked,
• 51:35
  the, the coaching Carousel is still spinning so, you know, as
• 51:40
  long as the carousel is spinning, the athlete should be
• 51:42
  able to do what they want to do that.
• 51:44
  That part of it is going to get challenged by someone because
• 51:47
  just going to be happy to stands up and says, and gets a lawyer
• 51:50
  to say it for them. Well, why is it okay for my
• 51:52
  coach to announced on July 5th at their?
• 51:55
  Leave me. But if I'm not in the portal by
• 51:57
  the first, and I can't compete, if I go to another, Solution.
• 52:01
  Somebody's going to say speaking from experience obviously let's
• 52:05
  not I'm not going to be naive to not say this out loud.
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  There is a waiver that can be signed for the athletes to get
• 52:13
  in. After the first it just has to
• 52:15
  be approved by the compliance in the and that 80 you would think.
• 52:20
  And you would hope that that Administration would fully
• 52:23
  support without wavering that moose.
• 52:26
  So that is there, that isn't it. Abso-freakin'-lutely.
• 52:31
  And I have a point for that after is The Khan one of the
• 52:37
  bigger cons and what have the repercussions was?
• 52:39
  Call it that for the student-athletes to enter the
• 52:42
  portal is that there's quote unquote retaliation sometimes by
• 52:46
  the coach, by the adult and situation, right?
• 52:48
  And you're going to feel some type of way because you do take
• 52:50
  it personal, okay, whatever. But should the athlete feel the
• 52:53
  same way when you have applied to a different job, the
• 52:57
  retaliation I will not expose the coach in the program and all
• 53:06
  this stuff but here's a real thing that happened coach gets a
• 53:10
  text message says You know, sir I appreciate, you know, what
• 53:17
  you're trying to do for me, but me and my family, think it's
• 53:20
  best. If I go weigh my options in the
• 53:22
  portal, if I choose to come back, I still get my money
• 53:26
  right. You want to go shop for a new
• 53:30
  situation and think that the coach is going to hold your
• 53:33
  spot. No, sir, no ma'am.
• 53:37
  That is not a thing, that's bad business.
• 53:39
  No one would do that. So that's not retaliation.
• 53:43
  That's a mutually. You know, we divorced.
• 53:46
  You told me we breaking up. We're breaking up.
• 53:48
  I'm not gonna hold your spot on the couch which means that like,
• 53:51
  I'm not gonna let you go hang out with a dude down the street
• 53:54
  for 10 days. I come back home I doing that
• 53:57
  right now. You know, so again, it's America
• 54:01
  go shopping. You want something don't
• 54:03
  complain. If you buy them, if you buy
• 54:05
  something bad, like it is what it is.
• 54:10
  So, I mean, this this has been something that, you know, I know
• 54:17
  for Clyde and for myself, you know, being on the other side.
• 54:22
  And when I say the other side, you know, it's one thing when
• 54:26
  your phone is always ringing. And right, it's another thing,
• 54:33
  I'm sorry. Now was a back that was a fact.
• 54:42
  It's a fact, right? Is kids want to win
• 54:46
  championships. They want Rings, right?
• 54:50
  They know where to go. Okay, now for us, I what I what
• 54:56
  I feel like what I feel like Clyde and myself have to do is
• 55:01
  that we have to understand how to be enterprising.
• 55:08
  And how to be cunning and how to be smart and more than anything
• 55:14
  else. My Success is far as a portal is
• 55:18
  concerned is based on how closely and how deeply I can vet
• 55:25
  the kids that I'm going after, okay?
• 55:29
  And I have to listen very, very carefully, okay?
• 55:33
  When I ask that question. Okay, so why did you get on the
• 55:37
  portal? Well, you know, my coach my
• 55:40
  coach and I just didn't see eye to eye and this, and this, and
• 55:44
  that and old, you know, it just, it just didn't work out for me.
• 55:48
  I'm sorry, that's not good enough.
• 55:50
  Okay, that's not good enough. I need to know what I'm dealing
• 55:56
  with and then not only that, if I know the person in question,
• 56:01
  I'm going to pick up the phone and say, Hey, What Can you tell
• 56:04
  me about athlete X. Okay.
• 56:08
  And I have to get to a point where I feel comfortable.
• 56:13
  That the kid that just did something or just decided to
• 56:17
  leave one program isn't going to come here and wreck my program.
• 56:22
  All right, so all of these things have to be in place, all
• 56:27
  of these things have to be vetted.
• 56:28
  I have to be very aware and I have to be very versed on who
• 56:34
  these individuals are history of the program.
• 56:36
  There are at what kind of training they did.
• 56:40
  You know, whether they saw eye-to-eye, I need to know.
• 56:42
  I need to have document okay on these athletes is your Suma NG
• 56:49
  they all have baggage you're just assuming that that is fact
• 56:54
  okay but inside of all that and we're and I'm seeing it
• 56:59
  happening with our football program right now, is that In,
• 57:05
  you know, on a lesser level, you can build a championship team in
• 57:10
  one year, and then that championship team can disappear
• 57:14
  in one year. Right?
• 57:17
  So the portal has created a situation where you can get
• 57:22
  success really quickly and you can be in the dumps, the next
• 57:27
  year because we're still depending on 18 to 22 year olds,
• 57:36
  all right? To make the right decisions,
• 57:39
  right? And we're hoping that okay, this
• 57:43
  is your second chance, right? This is your Second chance to
• 57:46
  make things, right? You're going to come here,
• 57:48
  you're going to be a good citizen.
• 57:50
  You're going to take care of business, you're going to listen
• 57:52
  to your coach, right? And that's never a given, it's
• 57:57
  never a given, you know. So I look at it as something.
• 58:01
  That is a very useful tool but you better know how to use it,
• 58:06
  because it can literally destroy your program, you know?
• 58:09
  And and I would dare say that we're seeing if we're paying
• 58:14
  attention, right? We're seeing situations play out
• 58:18
  right in front of us, where the portal has probably been a
• 58:20
  problem instead of been a, being a solution, okay?
• 58:25
  So speaking from a coach's perspective, if you know how to
• 58:29
  use it. It can be great.
• 58:35
  Well, this is, this is Ben. I actually feel like I hit a
• 58:41
  home run with this topic. I, you guys are amazing and I
• 58:46
  went last because I obviously have a by sport perspective and
• 58:52
  I think it'll be helpful everything that you guys have
• 58:56
  said, is absolutely 100% true. But here's here's some things
• 59:00
  that people really, really need to understand about the portal.
• 59:03
  First of all. You were all raised in the
• 59:06
  coaching world, where like you put together a daily practice,
• 59:10
  you put together a weekly practice, you put together a
• 59:12
  monthly practice, you put together a seasonal practice and
• 59:15
  then you got a global view of a four-year plan for the kids,
• 59:19
  right? Yeah.
• 59:20
  Take that one and don't do that one anymore.
• 59:23
  Don't don't do the four-year plan for any kid may be having
• 59:26
  in your head. Don't spit, don't spend the time
• 59:29
  to actually like write it down and like, get you and that kid
• 59:32
  to get indoctrinated on it. Because here's the deal with the
• 59:35
  portal. You guys are together you year
• 59:39
  by year at best. Everything is going to be real.
• 59:42
  Like it's like one year renewable scholarships, right?
• 59:45
  Like, our relationship is going to be renewed, literally every
• 59:49
  year whether we're going to continue to go together or not.
• 59:55
  And and to the governor's Point, let me say this about the
• 59:59
  portal, okay? The the best people in the
• 1:00:02
  portal are either the ones that came to you as two stars and
• 1:00:08
  three stars and you've made four or five stars.
• 1:00:11
  They're not leaving you and the ones who came to will say, Prime
• 1:00:19
  Steak University as four stars and five stars and their, and
• 1:00:24
  their disgruntled, right? And so now they're in the portal
• 1:00:28
  and now you have a shot at them because they're disgruntled
• 1:00:32
  Right? So the best ones in there,
• 1:00:34
  they're passing each other, the the newly minted, four and five
• 1:00:38
  stars. And the I was a foreign 5 Star a
• 1:00:42
  year and a half ago, but my marks in college, don't say so
• 1:00:46
  right. Like that's that that's the
• 1:00:48
  sliding scale and and to the governor's point, right?
• 1:00:53
  It's that second group that you can absolutely create a monster
• 1:00:57
  team at a non power 5 school, if you know how to vet Through
• 1:01:02
  those kids and find find the right thing for them because
• 1:01:06
  their talent doesn't go away. Right there, talent doesn't go
• 1:01:11
  away. Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  If they want to talk what he/she sure because some of them just
• 1:01:16
  don't want to talk like that, you know, like they like to go
• 1:01:21
  from the from the frying pan Into the Fire.
• 1:01:23
  Like, you know what, they wrote, it wasn't really good for me for
• 1:01:26
  Prime Steak at Prime Steak. You were so Ima leave and I'm
• 1:01:28
  gonna go to filet mignon knowledge, right?
• 1:01:32
  And it's like you're still the seventh best person on the team.
• 1:01:36
  We're going to be mad and you're still not getting any attention.
• 1:01:39
  So you're still Going to give you better when if you had just
• 1:01:42
  gone to the governor's institution, he would have
• 1:01:45
  treated you like Prime Steak and you might have gotten the
• 1:01:47
  attention. You needed to actually be good
• 1:01:49
  enough to one day, get a contract, but that is for them
• 1:01:51
  to figure out. And, to clients point, it is
• 1:01:53
  darwinistic. But let me throw up, let me
• 1:01:56
  throw a wrench in there for y'all that doesn't exist in
• 1:01:59
  track but does exist in baseball.
• 1:02:03
  The rule for the date is the same in baseball as it is and
• 1:02:07
  track July first. Anybody on this panel, want to
• 1:02:10
  tell the rest of the world. When the draft is after July
• 1:02:13
  1st, July 17, July 17th, 18th and 19th, right?
• 1:02:21
  So you love your coach, you hit in the three hole, that's the
• 1:02:25
  best hole for those of you who don't really love baseball.
• 1:02:27
  You're the best hitter, right? You play shortstop, that's the
• 1:02:30
  most Prime position, right? And you're at, you know, medium
• 1:02:35
  level Tech. No better yet.
• 1:02:39
  You're a Prime Steak University, right?
• 1:02:45
  And and your school has recruited the best shortstop in
• 1:02:49
  the country. He is going to be in the draft,
• 1:02:52
  he's going to get drafted and you don't have to worry about it
• 1:02:56
  because this is your spot, right?
• 1:03:01
  Stead young man's agent. Can't Make a Deal.
• 1:03:04
  The money ain't right. Unbeknownst to everybody else in
• 1:03:08
  the country because this just wasn't seen now because you
• 1:03:11
  don't get in the portal because why would you get in the portal?
• 1:03:13
  You're the starting shortstop, not a power 5 school.
• 1:03:16
  You're that guy, right? You your spot is most solid of
• 1:03:20
  anybody on the team now, the super star shortstop from high
• 1:03:24
  school is now not going to be drafted.
• 1:03:29
  He's coming to school. You didn't get in the portal.
• 1:03:36
  Now. Because there is no media
• 1:03:39
  transfers in baseball you can mid-year transfer and track.
• 1:03:42
  You can't make your transfer in baseball, be eligible, right?
• 1:03:46
  So now all of a sudden you have competition for your spot and
• 1:03:52
  this ain't the NBA where we got Subs in middle of the game.
• 1:03:54
  If you lose your shortstop, your shortstop job in the fall.
• 1:03:58
  You're either going to play second base of, you're not
• 1:04:00
  playing or you can play Left Field, whatever it is.
• 1:04:03
  You ain't who you used to be and you ain't who you used to be
• 1:04:07
  because Couldn't get in the portal.
• 1:04:10
  Right? Because you didn't get in the
• 1:04:11
  portal, because why would you? But your whole life can change
• 1:04:15
  16 days after the portal deadline, unbeknownst to you
• 1:04:18
  have nothing to do with you, right.
• 1:04:22
  And these are the kind of holes that are still in the Portal
• 1:04:26
  game problems. Right?
• 1:04:28
  You know, I agree with Clyde like listen, I don't necessarily
• 1:04:32
  think the portal was the greatest idea.
• 1:04:34
  I think it was a better idea to pay the athletes.
• 1:04:36
  But that's that's neither here, nor there at the end of A, the
• 1:04:40
  portal is here, we already know, nothing is going backwards.
• 1:04:43
  The portal is here to stay. If we have the portal and you
• 1:04:46
  can now transfer from Texas, to Texas Tech to Texas A&M, right?
• 1:04:50
  So we don't have like the interstate or the inner
• 1:04:53
  conference bias these anymore, right?
• 1:04:56
  If all that's true. Why do we have a portal date?
• 1:05:01
  Like, why, like why? Why?
• 1:05:02
  Why? Why is July 1st one is because
• 1:05:06
  it's because of just what you said, the adsr trying to find a
• 1:05:09
  way to protect the coaches. Yeah, so that that's all that,
• 1:05:12
  you know, because that was the whole thing with the whole thing
• 1:05:14
  with the portal was going on the 80s were like we have to put
• 1:05:17
  something in there, so Kathleen. So, you know, you're starting
• 1:05:22
  quarterback. Decides on April, on August 15,
• 1:05:27
  you know, August 1st. I don't want to be here anymore.
• 1:05:30
  He just jumps in Porton, he's gone.
• 1:05:32
  They're trying to run away. Scenarios because if you don't
• 1:05:34
  put the data in there, that's going to happen and maybe you
• 1:05:37
  should, maybe you should treat that kid better.
• 1:05:40
  But here's what I'm saying, July different July July 1st, is this
• 1:05:44
  is my this is my issue July 1st is an arbitrary date.
• 1:05:48
  Start of school is not. Hey, is that what you see what
• 1:05:50
  I'm saying? Like I get it, I understand your
• 1:05:54
  point. I was just best, but but
• 1:05:56
  wouldn't start of class be better first day of class in the
• 1:06:00
  fall semester. Okay.
• 1:06:02
  It be okay for Every other sport but football, right?
• 1:06:07
  Yeah, because that's all this is about, it's about football.
• 1:06:10
  Yes, and that's my point if because it's a I don't know what
• 1:06:13
  the football dates are, but trust me, they're set up so that
• 1:06:16
  your big-time Superstar cannot jump in the portal and be on
• 1:06:21
  somebody else's campus at the last minute.
• 1:06:23
  Mmm, that's that's not that's not an unfair thing to try to
• 1:06:27
  prevent. I'm okay, I get I get that was
• 1:06:30
  it? We do have to protect we got to
• 1:06:32
  protect the cash cow. But my issue is fine.
• 1:06:36
  Then you know what, spend an extra hour or two and make the
• 1:06:40
  deadlines make sense for each sport, because start of school
• 1:06:46
  for my sport makes perfect sense in the world.
• 1:06:50
  Makes all the sense in the world.
• 1:06:52
  Last I checked, I had till August first to sign incoming
• 1:06:55
  freshman. Hmm, so why do my people on my
• 1:06:58
  roster? Have to make a decision on the
• 1:07:00
  same day by the way, that their scholarship amounts for the next
• 1:07:04
  year, do Let's go like first now make no sense.
• 1:07:09
  Hey coach, just cut my scholarship.
• 1:07:11
  Well, I bet you're sorry here. How about this one?
• 1:07:17
  I got I got I got a real life thing that happened.
• 1:07:20
  USC hired. Their baseball coach on July
• 1:07:22
  third. I can't make that up.
• 1:07:27
  They hire that rope. Okay.
• 1:07:29
  And that is that's where the choose wavered situation comes
• 1:07:34
  in. Yeah,
• 1:07:57
  so, Around the May date. There was this big Scurry about
• 1:08:00
  oh my God, who's going in the portal?
• 1:08:02
  It did it. Did it hasn't been reported by
• 1:08:04
  this date and I'm like, I don't know what's going I missed
• 1:08:08
  because I don't I'm not in the portal but that that was those
• 1:08:10
  were questions that that are out there naoko.
• 1:08:13
  Other coaches were saying that, do you have to be in my
• 1:08:16
  distaste, so that even the coaches aren't sure what the
• 1:08:18
  dates are, there still a lot of confusion around those days?
• 1:08:22
  Let me put it that way. And then you and I had a
• 1:08:25
  conversation about about the July First date, right?
• 1:08:28
  Because the way it's worded. Did you have to be in by close
• 1:08:33
  of by close of business on June 30th and July.
• 1:08:36
  First was the end or was July 1st close of business and I
• 1:08:39
  didn't know the answer and that's why I asked you if you
• 1:08:41
  have to request to be in the portal by the end of business on
• 1:08:45
  the first, you got to actually bring in the portal what you had
• 1:08:48
  written request to be in the portal by the end of business on
• 1:08:52
  the first and it's just it's 5 p.m. right standard 5 p.m. where
• 1:08:57
  were you? And if you think about the
• 1:09:00
  timeline as it pertains to track, it's actually kind of
• 1:09:02
  crazy because I mean, let's be real if I'm on Marissa choose
• 1:09:08
  team and I'm unhappy, but I'm talented.
• 1:09:11
  I'm probably not going to tell her that.
• 1:09:13
  I'm going into the portal between conference in the end of
• 1:09:18
  ncaa's because rationally speaking, if I go into the
• 1:09:22
  portal, why the hell would she? Let me go compete at Nationals
• 1:09:25
  to shop my talent to? Anybody else?
• 1:09:28
  You see what I'm saying? So what Judd?
• 1:09:31
  June 10th or whatever? You are NCAA, has ended and the
• 1:09:36
  day the deadline is July 1st. They got three weeks to figure
• 1:09:39
  it out like right. Ah come on man.
• 1:09:42
  Like that's not what we'll see you in a speak.
• 1:09:45
  To be fair, the ones who were going in the portal.
• 1:09:48
  Probably knew in May, you just didn't get in there for exactly
• 1:09:51
  the reasons that you said to lose very few athletes out there
• 1:09:55
  that were making these decisions.
• 1:09:57
  You know after the NCAA Champions they were made, it
• 1:10:00
  just didn't go in until that to be champ, right?
• 1:10:03
  But that means on the flipside of that unless their coats said
• 1:10:06
  or something to them, after the NCAA me like I'm reducing your
• 1:10:10
  scholarship, then are jumping in the world for that reason.
• 1:10:13
  So but most of the people the one in the portal afternoon
• 1:10:15
  seeing me. They knew they were born in
• 1:10:16
  there before absolute. So I've got a, I've got a
• 1:10:19
  hypothetical that you know I mean, there's probably only one
• 1:10:24
  person qualified to answer this question.
• 1:10:33
  So I'm just going to throw this out there, okay?
• 1:10:36
  Because what the portal has done in, you know, again we've
• 1:10:41
  touched on this again, is that There was a point in time when
• 1:10:48
  the athlete coach relationship, whether it whether we like to
• 1:10:52
  admit it or not, it's emotional. We're dealing with human beings.
• 1:10:58
  There's feelings involved. There is much more of a, there's
• 1:11:02
  a, it's a connection. You have a situation where
• 1:11:06
  you're with an athlete for four years, for of their formative
• 1:11:10
  years, four years, where they're becoming girls Two women Boys to
• 1:11:17
  Men. You're dealing with a very, very
• 1:11:20
  specific particular period of their life, right?
• 1:11:26
  I feel the portal if you're not if as far as I'm concerned, if
• 1:11:31
  as a coach you are not willing to turn it on and turn it off.
• 1:11:39
  Meaning if that kid comes to your office or you get an email
• 1:11:43
  or you get a text message and hey this kid Jo X Y, and Z is
• 1:11:47
  now in the portal. Right.
• 1:11:51
  You now have a choice to let that affect you which in turn
• 1:11:56
  affects the rest of your squad. Because now you're pissed right
• 1:12:02
  now, you are emotional now, you are, you know, right?
• 1:12:06
  So I'm going to paint this this picture.
• 1:12:10
  Athlete ex comes to the coach says hey I was just say I have a
• 1:12:18
  family issue and I want to go back home and you know I'm
• 1:12:25
  getting in the portal because I want to go to a school closer to
• 1:12:28
  home. I'd like to finish the year out
• 1:12:31
  and oh by the way, this kid is a key to you winning a
• 1:12:35
  championship. What do you do?
• 1:13:10
  Situation where the coaches that that because even for me, it's
• 1:13:14
  not even about them being a key person so I can win a
• 1:13:17
  championship. Hmm.
• 1:13:18
  No, you know, if there's a I know that this is a real
• 1:13:22
  situation, I'm going to help this young person get better.
• 1:13:25
  Yeah, of course, I'm Alan compete know what?
• 1:13:28
  Because what, what, what I think.
• 1:13:30
  And I'm saying this because I feel like too many young men and
• 1:13:36
  women Feel like they can't come to the coach.
• 1:13:41
  Exactly, yeah. They feel whatever reason they
• 1:13:44
  feel like this is such a bad thing, right?
• 1:13:49
  That because it's my decision, right?
• 1:13:52
  To, to leave or whatever, then this Co he's going to hate me
• 1:13:57
  for the rest of my life. So, mmm.
• 1:14:00
  I'm just going to go ahead and and that and that's the bad of
• 1:14:03
  the port. Yes, it creates very quickly.
• 1:14:07
  I think that let's talk about one good thing that the portal
• 1:14:11
  has done or should do. It should make some of the
• 1:14:15
  coaches out there due to have not treated athletes.
• 1:14:18
  Well, treat them better. Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:20
  Yes, because if they don't, I will say I will say that going
• 1:14:23
  to be absolutely absolutely. So listen and again, we'll have
• 1:14:33
  to stop. Let me, let me throw this out
• 1:14:35
  there. It's funny because what what has
• 1:14:37
  happened now? A mid-major baseball.
• 1:14:39
  Is there is literally an acceptance now, that they are
• 1:14:42
  minor leagues for the, for the power 5, right?
• 1:14:45
  Like they go, they they develop guys and then they're going to
• 1:14:50
  lose them. And it's funny and baseball.
• 1:14:52
  What the loosening to is less. So to power fives and more sort
• 1:14:57
  of power files, and I hail deals, mmm-hmm right?
• 1:15:01
  Like, you know, there's a kid who's a Friday night starters,
• 1:15:03
  like that's the best picture for a very reputable non-power 5
• 1:15:11
  school and he's probably going to get drafted, right?
• 1:15:13
  So, but but just in case a very, very prominent SEC, School
• 1:15:22
  offered a kid, n IL deal for 125 Grand.
• 1:15:28
  Right. And he's one of several that
• 1:15:30
  they've they've thrown this money at, right?
• 1:15:32
  So of course, the kids like, yeah, coach about this portal.
• 1:15:36
  I'm gonna go ahead and head south.
• 1:15:39
  Yeah. And isn't that tampering in
• 1:15:42
  somewhere? because because howdy howdy
• 1:15:45
  howdy how do you know about the deal if he wasn't important Oh,
• 1:15:50
  oh no. He is definitely, definitely God
• 1:15:58
  in the portal. But when there's no question
• 1:16:01
  about listen tampering is being kind as to what's happening in
• 1:16:06
  basements, right? Like, you know, how we were
• 1:16:08
  talking that's a whole other discussion but like like the
• 1:16:11
  best kids get in the portal and then like, you get all excited.
• 1:16:14
  But the truth is they already had a destination, but let me
• 1:16:17
  tell you something, everybody in Small already has a destination,
• 1:16:21
  right? Like by the time, you see them
• 1:16:25
  in the portal. They are they've already limited
• 1:16:27
  themselves to three schools and they're weighing which bag they
• 1:16:30
  like better. If I gave, if I collected or
• 1:16:36
  donated to a pot of money, I put fifty to a hundred dollars into
• 1:16:42
  a pot of money for every time I've typed this text or email, I
• 1:16:47
  cannot talk to you if you are not in the transfer report,
• 1:16:51
  right? Okay.
• 1:16:52
  If I if I put that into a pot of money, we could all go someplace
• 1:16:55
  in a very nice weekend. I promise you that.
• 1:16:58
  Yeah, everything would be on me. Trust me.
• 1:17:01
  And you guys would have a phenomenal because that happens
• 1:17:04
  way too often. I cannot talk to you.
• 1:17:07
  I cannot hey, you know that's real because it happens to me.
• 1:17:10
  I am floored exactly right. Well, and I think that goes to
• 1:17:16
  like, it was brought up in the very first part of this, with
• 1:17:18
  the education, about the portal and the things that everything I
• 1:17:21
  did encompasses. You know, you can limit who you
• 1:17:25
  talk to because you have a comment box, you can give your
• 1:17:28
  email but not your phone number. You can give both, you know, you
• 1:17:32
  can withdraw without quote-unquote penalty to
• 1:17:36
  whatever parties stated. And it's just Just, you know, it
• 1:17:41
  can be a good thing because it's put well in theory.
• 1:17:45
  It was implemented so that when needed when necessary, the
• 1:17:49
  athletes can make a move but because we are of such a self
• 1:17:56
  centered self rewarding Society. It's trickled down into this,
• 1:18:01
  right? I mean, there is a young lady
• 1:18:03
  that was in the portal this year.
• 1:18:05
  It said, I only will speak to the school.
• 1:18:08
  Disc will miss school? Have a Day and I was like oh
• 1:18:12
  thank you. I don't have to compose an email
• 1:18:14
  to not have it responded to moving on and I appreciated
• 1:18:19
  that, you know, I had a parent. I didn't I'm going to assume
• 1:18:24
  either the phone number that was given was the parents number
• 1:18:27
  because the parent was going to deal with all of it and not
• 1:18:30
  overwhelm the student athlete. And the parents said, oh, that
• 1:18:33
  was a bad idea. I should have never put my phone
• 1:18:36
  number, never done that, right? And so said, It was like,
• 1:18:40
  listen, learn and I'm like, well, I hope you never have to
• 1:18:43
  use them lesson again, you know, with this specific child herbs
• 1:18:47
  to do not wait. So I mean in, especially in the
• 1:18:51
  current situation that I'm in, like, I see the good in it, I
• 1:18:56
  see where it can be bad, but I think with education, I mean,
• 1:19:01
  there's always gonna be a sneaky snake, right?
• 1:19:03
  We can't, we can't help that. That's always going to be happen
• 1:19:06
  or be a thing, but if we educate as to on the student part and on
• 1:19:10
  Coaches part maybe as Evolution occurs it evolves into a
• 1:19:15
  prettier thing or more. Congrats thing.
• 1:19:19
  I feel like the portal is like the internet.
• 1:19:21
  I said this one time when the show that the internet is one of
• 1:19:23
  the few things on this planet that's on man's top five
• 1:19:26
  inventions and man's five worst inventions.
• 1:19:29
  I think the portal is that way as it pertains to student
• 1:19:32
  athletes and student-athlete life on campus, right.
• 1:19:35
  It's definitely one of the top five things that's ever
• 1:19:37
  happened. Student-athletes, it's also one
• 1:19:39
  of the five worst There's no question.
• 1:19:42
  No horse. There's definitely unscrupulous
• 1:19:47
  coaches out there that are telling kids like that are
• 1:19:50
  inferring strongly to kids that they should get in the portal.
• 1:19:55
  Yeah. But the ones who were here,
• 1:19:56
  don't hear that well for sure. But I'm just saying I'm just
• 1:20:01
  saying like, hey, you got the opportunity to go anywhere.
• 1:20:03
  You want to why you want to stay here?
• 1:20:04
  I don't want you. Right?
• 1:20:07
  Like, you know, you're not saying that but it's like you
• 1:20:09
  look, you wouldn't want to stay where you're not wanted.
• 1:20:11
  I'm telling you you're not want to go somewhere else.
• 1:20:14
  Of course no of Coaches ever going to say that, right?
• 1:20:17
  But that's literally the inference that's happening.
• 1:20:20
  So like it's listen, the II asked the question and I we got
• 1:20:26
  a spirited debate about it and I thought it was really good
• 1:20:29
  conversation to have amongst this group, right?
• 1:20:32
  Because we've got obviously the king of the portal of that, the
• 1:20:36
  the very, very Pinnacle of the power fives.
• 1:20:39
  We've got a form of power 5 guy. Who's who's, in a Up-and-coming
• 1:20:45
  program that has a huge history and we've got a guy who's turned
• 1:20:53
  a mid-major from a till like, man, that place is pretty sexy,
• 1:20:58
  right? And that, and then we got the
• 1:21:00
  new B to the power 5, right? So, like you got you guys for,
• 1:21:04
  for takes on this. I thought experiences and such
• 1:21:11
  we're I think we're very good at, and obviously I throw in
• 1:21:13
  the, like, Hey, just in case you didn't know this.
• 1:21:16
  It's different in baseball and it's in some ways worse, right?
• 1:21:20
  It gets everybody hopefully to think.
• 1:21:22
  So, that's really all I wanted. So, what we got next big league?
• 1:21:28
  The thing that everybody's talking about the coaching
• 1:21:31
  Carousel because we haven't talked about it in my two-weeks,
• 1:21:34
  it ever is like, hello. Are you guys ready?
• 1:21:46
  Like a heavy metal concert and everybody's in the mosh pit,
• 1:21:50
  that's what it and I am sure that I am projecting because I'm
• 1:21:53
  in the middle of the mosh pit myself.
• 1:21:56
  But like man, Man, this Carousel.
• 1:22:01
  It's so last year, laddie, on at home
• 1:22:18
  and I still do think that maybe last year, was the longest I had
• 1:22:22
  ever seen the carousel spin, but I just want to say this for the
• 1:22:26
  record. So people are paying attention,
• 1:22:28
  right? Right, every time there's a
• 1:22:30
  power, five job. That's open.
• 1:22:32
  You can add like four to five weeks to the Carousel spinning,
• 1:22:37
  right? Okay, we now have Oregon hoping
• 1:22:44
  TCU open Illinois, Houston, open Illinois.
• 1:22:54
  Open. Right.
• 1:22:56
  Am I missing another power 5 because member Houston's going
• 1:22:59
  to the big 12. So then our power 5 school.
• 1:23:02
  So my missing anybody any power. 5 schools will Oregon might be
• 1:23:05
  out of the Pac-12 and in the Mountain West.
• 1:23:07
  So technically you could downgrade that you're not going
• 1:23:10
  well. Oh my gosh.
• 1:23:12
  Look at you. it is going to be the last is
• 1:23:27
  going to be the last kid picked when you play five on five like
• 1:23:32
  like the the the big 12 in the enemy, like, All right man.
• 1:23:37
  Come on y'all can come play with us because the Big Ten is
• 1:23:40
  absolutely positively not taking like they have all but said that
• 1:23:44
  like the Big Ten is going to take Cal and Stanford and Notre
• 1:23:47
  Dame and Washington in their next iteration.
• 1:23:50
  They're going to take those for, you know, why?
• 1:23:52
  Because they're all of the TV markets, Well, in their
• 1:23:59
  academic, Footprints footprint model, but that but that's all
• 1:24:05
  of our coaching coaching coaching carousel.
• 1:24:15
  Whatever people may think or not?
• 1:24:17
  Think about the Illinois's job, right?
• 1:24:21
  When Gary and Tanja, Buford Bailey were there, I think the
• 1:24:25
  program had a little bit more status than its had recently.
• 1:24:27
  Right. But when you, if you're paying
• 1:24:30
  attention to the conference realignment, Illinois is one of
• 1:24:35
  the school's who's going to be getting 100 million dollars a
• 1:24:37
  year sent their hundred million dollars that jobs a lot more
• 1:24:42
  sexy when you know that isn't it?
• 1:24:45
  If you the football coach and so, yes, I think it's a lot more
• 1:24:48
  sexy across the board. Assuming that the trickle-down
• 1:24:52
  actually is exactly. So you talked about you talking
• 1:24:55
  if track is important. Yes.
• 1:24:58
  Okay, there's no Escape. You know, we hear this all the
• 1:25:00
  time, you know, the trickle-down is going to help track and
• 1:25:05
  field, right? It's not us saying that it's not
• 1:25:08
  so, so that that it, that it, that it is, so that's it.
• 1:25:10
  So then it can't help the Illinois track situation be
• 1:25:13
  better. Because you're getting on a
• 1:25:15
  million dollars if they're not gonna get any of the hundred
• 1:25:17
  million, okay. But sir, way man there, I think,
• 1:25:20
  I know, I know this is real had conversations with other people
• 1:25:23
  in our profession about this. There is a great fear in our
• 1:25:28
  sport right now that the conference realignment when the
• 1:25:30
  dust all settles is going to cause the expulsion of some
• 1:25:36
  programs in track and field. Well, that was written about in
• 1:25:39
  that UCLA article. Correct basically their move to
• 1:25:42
  the Big Ten, helped save and solidify their Olympic sports.
• 1:25:47
  Exactly what I was saying. So Illinois you would imagine is
• 1:25:53
  going to be one of these jobs. Where you're going to have an
• 1:25:56
  Olympic sports job, you're going to have track and field.
• 1:25:58
  Jobs doesn't mean their salaries are going to go up, I don't
• 1:26:01
  know, but at least you're going to have the jobs right where
• 1:26:05
  when the musical chairs stop spinning if you're I don't know
• 1:26:08
  if you're Washington State and you ain't in the Pac-12, no
• 1:26:12
  more. Ain't nothing else.
• 1:26:14
  You might lose those jobs. You see what I'm saying?
• 1:26:17
  So that's a different conversation than that, making
• 1:26:21
  that a better job because they're getting a hundred
• 1:26:23
  billion dollars a year Noah Saying is that the hundred
• 1:26:26
  million dollars a year is feels like a little bit of insulation
• 1:26:29
  feels like a little bit of security for coaching positions
• 1:26:33
  at all at those places I would much rather I think anyone in
• 1:26:37
  the industry would tell you like the safest place for you to be
• 1:26:40
  right now. If your track and field coach is
• 1:26:43
  the big tent Well, I don't know about that, I don't know, but
• 1:26:50
  but definitely there is if your track and field coach the safest
• 1:26:54
  place for you to be for sure that a power five conference.
• 1:26:56
  I will say that. Yes.
• 1:26:57
  But we don't know what the powerful look like.
• 1:26:59
  Well the day when it comes to
• 1:27:13
  security, there can't be any more security.
• 1:27:16
  Especially when it comes to track feel, right?
• 1:27:18
  Because tractor feels important in this columns Walt what is
• 1:27:22
  this? So it's probably happening and
• 1:27:53
  we end up with four. If the greed continues, trust
• 1:27:56
  me, when I tell you this, we will never have a power 3.
• 1:28:01
  If if we go beyond for like if they start cannibalizing the ACC
• 1:28:06
  we're going to end up with two conferences to 32.
• 1:28:09
  That's where it's going. We're never going to end up with
• 1:28:12
  three because it didn't like the math doesn't work.
• 1:28:14
  It doesn't work with that to composite 32 is not going to
• 1:28:17
  work either. So yes it does because you got
• 1:28:20
  to it's look it's the NFL model right into my age. 32 with my
• 1:28:24
  work with two divisions of 16 who are all of the make you
• 1:28:28
  okay, we'll see. So for some my my two cents in
• 1:28:33
  this and into Clyde's point. We're still talking about
• 1:28:40
  whether Are not the ad actually values track.
• 1:28:44
  And field is Clemson is any example, okay?
• 1:28:52
  Minnesota like they're getting a hundred million dollars to,
• 1:28:56
  okay? And they have tried and failed
• 1:29:01
  to get rid of Men's Track, right?
• 1:29:04
  And Clemson, tried to get rid of Men's Track and, and failed as
• 1:29:10
  well. But they still tried, right?
• 1:29:14
  So if anything the you know, they've already put them, put
• 1:29:20
  their biases. They've already put it out
• 1:29:23
  there. Okay.
• 1:29:24
  So You know, the I will be curious and I will be very
• 1:29:33
  interested to see now that these coaches are, you know, have been
• 1:29:38
  let go right? Does does the is a bar raised
• 1:29:44
  right? Are they going to swing for the
• 1:29:46
  fences to get someone massive and end up paying them double
• 1:29:53
  what they were paying the other coach that was there before?
• 1:29:56
  Are they going to try and put together a super staff?
• 1:29:59
  Like those are the things that you know that that would be the
• 1:30:02
  real litmus test as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:30:05
  And I'm talking about from programs that have probably
• 1:30:08
  been, you know, they've had one or two years there.
• 1:30:10
  They've had success here, but for the most part have not been
• 1:30:14
  consistently at the national level, right?
• 1:30:17
  Look, look at look at what Tennessee did you learn
• 1:30:19
  together? Incredible staff.
• 1:30:21
  Absolutely not, you know, and kudos to what Leroy did it /?
• 1:30:24
  Yes, put together very, very good staff, incredible staff as
• 1:30:26
  well. So there's no moon day.
• 1:30:28
  Clearly they're vested in track and field exact, and and there
• 1:30:32
  and there's nobody on the planet.
• 1:30:33
  That doesn't believe Oregon's going to put a break staff
• 1:30:35
  together. Absolute least, you know, it's I
• 1:30:37
  am Thomas, I'm going to hire somebody.
• 1:30:43
  I will question whether Illinois backward because it's at this
• 1:30:49
  point it hasn't been. It doesn't seem that it's been a
• 1:30:52
  priority. I don't know.
• 1:30:53
  Yeah. 100. 100 million or not? Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  And we got to say the same thing about, you know, the TCU
• 1:31:00
  situation, TCU has a storied tradition there.
• 1:31:05
  And so let's see if they step up their game.
• 1:31:06
  They step up to the plate or they try to go status quo.
• 1:31:09
  Yeah. Jon Drummond the TCU.
• 1:31:16
  Come on. No one likes my idea.
• 1:31:18
  No one likes it. So, how about if we have the
• 1:31:21
  spawn of Jon Drummond? Because he will be on campus.
• 1:31:26
  Does that count? Oh, man.
• 1:31:31
  Yeah, I mean, so to address that I think was the most valuable
• 1:31:36
  one of the most valuable coaching Carousel topic
• 1:31:38
  discussions that we've had in a while.
• 1:31:42
  But definitely, I lost about the jobs that are still out there.
• 1:31:47
  Ohio, State's looking for a spring coach, Kansas is looking
• 1:31:52
  for a Sprint code, Kansas looking for a Sprint coach.
• 1:31:59
  Arizona State's looking for half a staff.
• 1:32:01
  Yeah. Wasn't even a say that why the
• 1:32:05
  people need to know that there's a throws job?
• 1:32:06
  Open is a jumps job open just shop, open at Arizona State,
• 1:32:09
  those are facts. That's not, it's not shade.
• 1:32:11
  I'm not throwing any shake, those are facts.
• 1:32:13
  Okay? So then, Illinois, also you
• 1:32:16
  Carbondale Illinois, state is named named Drake just named.
• 1:32:25
  I can't say his name. Okay Yukon.
• 1:32:35
  Yep. Didn't set, didn't Central
• 1:32:41
  Arkansas, I'll make name their coach.
• 1:32:45
  I didn't see that one. Okay, Townsend, J mu needs a
• 1:32:52
  distance coach. Brian Johnson has how many jobs
• 1:32:57
  open at at La Tech at least one he just posted that.
• 1:33:02
  He just got on campus and this is personal for media so I have
• 1:33:06
  no clue. I don't even know who this man
• 1:33:07
  is but there was no announcement of filling of positions there.
• 1:33:13
  I mean there are quite a few and and definitely ones that you and
• 1:33:18
  L job is open. Yeah, Ryan Johnson left there.
• 1:33:21
  So there's a hole is a hole staff open. yeah, and then all
• 1:33:28
  of ya, just all over the place and ones that haven't been
• 1:33:32
  publicized yet to so, Who here? Feels like there's more to come.
• 1:33:43
  Can I just can I just throw this in there?
• 1:33:45
  Just to be just such a jack wad. Let's not even discuss the fact
• 1:33:51
  that more than likely before school starts.
• 1:33:55
  The NCAA coaching limitations are going to be lifted.
• 1:33:58
  And the scholarship limitations are going to be increased.
• 1:34:02
  And so if schools now can give 24 and 34 and the Scout and the
• 1:34:08
  Staffing limitations are not six.
• 1:34:12
  Oh my not. Now, it's not a coaching
• 1:34:14
  Carousel. Now, it's a coaching circus like
• 1:34:17
  that. Now.
• 1:34:17
  It's literally like yeah. Well and so, you know, I'll just
• 1:34:23
  say this out loud. I'm not speaking to my specific
• 1:34:26
  situation at all some of these coaching decisions or Coke ad
• 1:34:31
  Administration decisions. Could they be rooted in that?
• 1:34:36
  The anticipation of these of these changes, you know, can can
• 1:34:40
  X Coach B. Properly.
• 1:34:47
  Suited for what's to come. You know, and I mean, those are
• 1:34:51
  like active covers. I'm having these conversations
• 1:34:53
  in my head quite literally, at this point, trying to not figure
• 1:34:58
  things out, but kind of get an understanding and have a
• 1:35:00
  landscape, not because of anything else besides being in
• 1:35:04
  the, in the seats and in the environment that I'm in
• 1:35:06
  specifically right now, like how to best, prepare myself, how to
• 1:35:10
  best arm myself, how to best. Make sense of things.
• 1:35:14
  I guess is the best way to say it.
• 1:35:16
  I don't know. So yeah, that's one thing that I
• 1:35:20
  was thinking about tossed in the air and my clothes off is today
• 1:35:23
  is you know If not right now how is this going to change the
• 1:35:31
  landscape and the way that it's used that position is you?
• 1:35:36
  So yeah so yeah we even touched really much of the D2 D3 NAIA or
• 1:35:47
  and jccc a an extensive list. It's a lot know if it's this is
• 1:35:53
  not necessarily the time to be super picky because Obviously
• 1:35:56
  you want to have standards and and desires of what you're
• 1:35:59
  trying to fulfill but lat like that's really.
• 1:36:02
  We've seen success on all the levels and what do you define as
• 1:36:06
  success and what are you willing to tolerate, right?
• 1:36:10
  Yeah for me you know the craziest part of the head coach
• 1:36:14
  positions and get the headlines and they should right but it's
• 1:36:18
  when the staffs get filled all the changing around really
• 1:36:21
  happens. Yeah that's because you got to
• 1:36:24
  staff a 64 right. So that everybody talks about
• 1:36:27
  the head coach job getting filled, right?
• 1:36:29
  He or she could fill those other five positions but five
• 1:36:32
  different schools, right? It's easy to happen.
• 1:36:37
  Hmm. All right.
• 1:36:40
  Well, let's blow off steam because I feel like the little
• 1:36:45
  created there. But would you rather the
• 1:36:51
  governor? I'm going to say, if you want to
• 1:36:54
  play or not because you have to play.
• 1:36:55
  So, would you rather play or not play or play again?
• 1:37:00
  All right. Are you ready, sir?
• 1:37:02
  I'm ready. All right, so similar question
• 1:37:04
  but definitely were two different.
• 1:37:06
  Would you rather not about your future or alter your past?
• 1:37:12
  I'll turn my past. Would you rather write an
• 1:37:15
  elephant or a donkey to work? I thought it was funny.
• 1:37:22
  Oh, come on. That is that's, that's a
• 1:37:24
  no-brainer. Now, give me the elephant, man.
• 1:37:27
  Oh man, let's go. This question came up just
• 1:37:31
  because I had kids on the line. So part in this question, would
• 1:37:35
  you rather fart out loud every time or have an SB D?
• 1:37:42
  Every time I would say that's all I can.
• 1:37:45
  SB, d stands for silent but deadly if you don't know this.
• 1:37:51
  Good thing you clarified. That yeah.
• 1:37:57
  A fart out loud every time or a salad?
• 1:37:59
  That deadly every time almost I'm mr.
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  Pillai do I'll fart out loud. All right.
• 1:38:06
  Sorry. Sorry.
• 1:38:09
  Would you rather always wear a hat or sunglasses?
• 1:38:14
  Sunglasses. I would like what would you
• 1:38:19
  rather live in a cave or in a treehouse?
• 1:38:24
  Cave. Would you rather have forever
• 1:38:27
  gas or a self-driving car? Our.
• 1:38:33
  Forever gasps hmm or a self-driving car?
• 1:38:38
  Hmm Zaman is electric I don't know.
• 1:38:45
  No gasps, Where'd I go? Would you rather throw in a
• 1:38:51
  shotput competition or run a 10K?
• 1:38:55
  Chocolate. Oh my God what's happened?
• 1:38:59
  Hey nobody picking the tenge ever see look we're going to get
• 1:39:03
  responses to take 10K all day. Anyways gentlemen, the questions
• 1:39:09
  are yours. If you assuming that you are not
• 1:39:14
  working. You got no official duties.
• 1:39:18
  Would you rather watch World Championships from the warm-up
• 1:39:23
  track or from the stands? Woman track.
• 1:39:41
  Okay. I mean story behind the story of
• 1:39:44
  always, that's me. Could I just go to say, would
• 1:39:49
  you rather be the head coach at a non power 5?
• 1:39:53
  Making 92,000 dollars? What would you rather?
• 1:39:56
  Or would you rather be the seventh assistant at an SEC
• 1:40:00
  School making 160,000? - these are real conversations
• 1:40:08
  that are going to happen. So absolutely I might as well
• 1:40:12
  ask it out there you're not going to be the seventh
• 1:40:15
  assistant, you're not going to be the seventh assistant making
• 1:40:18
  160,000 dollars. Okay.
• 1:40:35
  Give us the people false hope out there man.
• 1:40:37
  Come on, I'm not giving people false, hope look, it might be
• 1:40:40
  false, hope right? This second today and track but
• 1:40:43
  I believe there's a world where people will actually like
• 1:40:46
  discuss how much they make and don't make it, then maybe
• 1:40:48
  they'll actually make real money because I'm telling us right
• 1:40:50
  now, there's going to be a seventh assistant in the SEC in
• 1:40:53
  baseball, that makes a hundred sixty thousand dollars because I
• 1:40:55
  am someone, I know someone who tomorrow is going to have a
• 1:41:00
  conversation for a Interior job, that is going to make almost
• 1:41:05
  200,000 dollars. So anyway the question answer,
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  the question answer, thank you. There's only one way, there's
• 1:41:23
  only one way that I'm doing the 160 and that would be that
• 1:41:28
  power. 5 job has to be a championship team.
• 1:41:34
  Okay, good answer sir. Yes sir.
• 1:41:41
  Hey. So, would you rather?
• 1:41:49
  In your next venture, as a coach, would you rather
• 1:41:54
  immediately go to a job where you're going to challenge for
• 1:41:57
  the title immediately or be putting charge at a position
• 1:42:02
  where you can build to be a contender in, to the readings?
• 1:42:25
  I have two answers to that question, but at this stage of
• 1:42:28
  my career, I'd like to win a championship.
• 1:42:32
  Period. Right my.
• 1:42:37
  Here he comes. My nature is to death.
• 1:42:46
  My nature is why is why I asked? That's why I asked the question
• 1:42:48
  was. I know your nature is to do.
• 1:42:50
  Yes, I am. Absolutely.
• 1:42:52
  I absolutely love the, the building process like this.
• 1:42:58
  What we're going through and that sort of thing.
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  And I have experienced, you know, that walk right into the
• 1:43:06
  situation and the trains already left the station.
• 1:43:08
  So yeah. And I want to say this, I made a
• 1:43:13
  comment earlier in the show, when you said, You got your
• 1:43:19
  Masters at Florida State and the comment was not a Florida
• 1:43:23
  Florida, State dealer was, Kareem went there and we wanted
• 1:43:25
  him here with us. That's what battle to do with
• 1:43:28
  the Florida border state. He came here and made an
• 1:43:32
  impression. He's like, oh gosh, sorry can't
• 1:43:39
  fight. Love, Love Is Love.
• 1:43:48
  Kill it at all. My campus is like coach, I'm
• 1:43:51
  out. No, you remember all those young
• 1:43:54
  kids relate to where's Chris Curry?
• 1:43:57
  He's a doll as one of my favorite pictures was when we
• 1:44:04
  had we went to Florida State when I was at on a squad.
• 1:44:10
  And I have Jackie like on my back and she's got her full
• 1:44:14
  Florida State on. I've got my Florida gear on and
• 1:44:17
  there's a Yeah. I mean anyway.
• 1:44:23
  To did you have one for me? She asked all the mother.
• 1:44:27
  Yes, okay, yeah. Remember the CSU of plethora as
• 1:44:33
  well. Oh goodness.
• 1:44:42
  All right, well, let's run the show with heartbeat props just
• 1:44:45
  giving people a shout out flowers roses lifting up all
• 1:44:50
  that stuff while we can while they're still around.
• 1:44:55
  I want to get, I want to, I want to just make a statement I
• 1:44:57
  guess. You know, mental health folks is
• 1:45:02
  real, I've dealt with some situations over the past.
• 1:45:08
  Four to five weeks with people that are dealing with mental
• 1:45:12
  health, issues at the struggles, with life, the struggles with
• 1:45:15
  careers. And I'm just asking everybody to
• 1:45:18
  be cognizant of people around you that are having issues.
• 1:45:22
  Don't push him away. Don't just assume that they're
• 1:45:26
  going to be okay. No.
• 1:45:28
  Allow people to lean on you before they fall and it's a lot
• 1:45:33
  easier to prop them up to pick them up.
• 1:45:35
  So that's just want to say that Peak please.
• 1:45:38
  Attention to people around you. There's a lot of people in this
• 1:45:42
  world that are struggling and struggling badly right now.
• 1:45:44
  So just asking everybody to be aware of that.
• 1:45:52
  You're going to do stuff that make people cry and let not, you
• 1:45:55
  should do it at the end. Sir ruin things, no, well said,
• 1:46:01
  well said, my heartbeat props tonight and I'm not trying to be
• 1:46:08
  funny. I'm actually serious about this.
• 1:46:12
  I'm a. I hope I'm premature.
• 1:46:13
  I hope I'm wrong. But my heartbeat props go to the
• 1:46:16
  Pac-12 because I think it's over.
• 1:46:20
  I, I just I can't imagine a landscape where it survives and,
• 1:46:29
  you know, I was having this conversation earlier today, when
• 1:46:32
  the Pac-12 lost Los Angeles, that was pretty much it.
• 1:46:37
  And listen, depending on where you are in the country, depend
• 1:46:40
  on, where you've grown up, depending on what kind of fan
• 1:46:42
  of, what kind of sports you are, you either love the Pac-12 or
• 1:46:46
  you spend a lot of time talking trash about it, but the Pac-12
• 1:46:50
  is the conference champions for a reason.
• 1:46:52
  And it has an unbelievably storied past just so much
• 1:47:00
  history there. And this is most definitely a
• 1:47:02
  nun ceremonial way to die and it's ugly.
• 1:47:07
  And You know, I don't know if we're I don't know if this
• 1:47:11
  Reckoning is the evolution of college sports or the D
• 1:47:14
  evolution of cost reports but whatever it is, it seems that it
• 1:47:18
  is devouring. One of the cornerstones of
• 1:47:21
  Collegiate Sport and you couldn't have, most people would
• 1:47:26
  have never imagined Universe where college, sports moves
• 1:47:28
  forward, and there is no Pac-12 Conference and we are right
• 1:47:32
  there on the precipice of that. So if it's to be saved in some
• 1:47:37
  form Bravo, To whatever genius figures out how to do that.
• 1:47:40
  But all signs point to the it's over and as a West Coast kid
• 1:47:45
  that grew up, you know, following those athletes and
• 1:47:49
  paying attention to those schools and attended one of them
• 1:47:52
  for a period of time. I can't say I'm, I can't say I'm
• 1:47:56
  happy to watch it. It's it feels very sad, but
• 1:48:01
  business is business. Survival of the fittest is what
• 1:48:04
  it is. And you know, you're responsible
• 1:48:07
  for the choices you make and Secuence has happened.
• 1:48:09
  So. Here we are and it just might be
• 1:48:14
  the end of it and very short order.
• 1:48:16
  So Props to Everybody, the alumni, the history, the
• 1:48:23
  storylines, the, all the things that make the Pac-12, what it
• 1:48:26
  is, it's been amazing. And I don't wish to see it die
• 1:48:32
  this way, but it looks like it's dead.
• 1:48:36
  I'll go behind you but I will say I just want to jump in on
• 1:48:39
  your heartbeat prop. Like I think you are 100%,
• 1:48:42
  right? Like there was no one on this
• 1:48:44
  planet that would ever predicted if one of the power 5 went down,
• 1:48:48
  it was packed well because the Pac-12 has Los Angeles.
• 1:48:51
  The Pac-12 has the Bay Area and it is all about TV markets and
• 1:48:55
  you would never in your life. Thought they would have lost
• 1:48:58
  anything to the Big 12 which has one TV Market in it.
• 1:49:03
  And the big, The Big Ten, which barely has to.
• 1:49:08
  But here we are at the end at the end of the day, the the, I
• 1:49:13
  think there were some arrogance involved in the leadership of
• 1:49:16
  the Pac-12, and they fumbled the bag tremendously and they never
• 1:49:18
  really Foster. The kind of relationship if
• 1:49:20
  necessary out there. And so they never really unify,
• 1:49:23
  the TV markets in the nla and, and the unified and the TV
• 1:49:27
  markets, in San Diego and the TV markets in the bay, because had
• 1:49:30
  they done that? You take those three markets and
• 1:49:32
  you add the Phoenix market and and the Seattle market like they
• 1:49:35
  win. So yeah, that's a bag.
• 1:49:38
  That is a bag that is completely been fumbled my a lot of
• 1:49:48
  thoughts going on my head. My heartbeat props.
• 1:49:59
  Wait stuff, sometimes look like, but my my heartbeat props.
• 1:50:10
  Go out to we talked about them earlier but young people in the
• 1:50:18
  portal, I think some I think at least half the people in the
• 1:50:24
  portal or they're in the portal begrudgingly.
• 1:50:28
  I think the other the other half are in the portal and of that
• 1:50:32
  half, I think 85% of them are in the portal delusionally and, you
• 1:50:40
  know, This is like wishing that every kid gets what they want
• 1:50:45
  for Christmas but if I could have it if I could have my
• 1:50:49
  druthers every kid that's in the portal would get from the portal
• 1:50:52
  what they hope to get. I know that's not going to
• 1:50:55
  happen. I noticed I'm going to be close
• 1:50:56
  to happen and so my heart be props actually go out to the
• 1:50:59
  kids in the portal because there's There's a great number
• 1:51:04
  of people who were in the portal with, with Great Hopes and
• 1:51:07
  aspirations. And I've actually seen it
• 1:51:09
  already already play itself out on two occasions already this
• 1:51:14
  year, in the portal, where a kid gets in the portal, and they
• 1:51:17
  find out that not only the there's not another power 5
• 1:51:21
  school, want to give them the money that they were on but I'm
• 1:51:26
  in major school. Doesn't want to give them what?
• 1:51:28
  They're on division to school. Doesn't want to give them the
• 1:51:31
  what the money they were. Iran and they were offered like
• 1:51:35
  some level of offer from an Naia And, you know, that's
• 1:51:40
  depressing. And I realized from that
• 1:51:44
  conversation, that these kids who go in the portal, like I
• 1:51:52
  really wish them all the best because I know why they're in
• 1:51:55
  there, they're in the portal. Trying to catch lightning in a
• 1:51:59
  bottle. They're in the portal, trying to
• 1:52:01
  better their lives because everybody who gets the pour Les,
• 1:52:04
  why they get in to get in the portal because they want better
• 1:52:07
  for themselves. And I wish them all the very,
• 1:52:12
  very best. If I could give any, if I could
• 1:52:16
  give any advice to the folks, going to the portal, it would
• 1:52:18
  just If you take a deep breath and have a real sense of self
• 1:52:23
  before you go in, I know that's unrealistic.
• 1:52:26
  But I think if you have a sense of self, the portal can only be
• 1:52:30
  good for you. It's when you don't have a real
• 1:52:33
  sense of who you are and what your real value is out there
• 1:52:36
  that you jump in the portal. And unfortunately the portal
• 1:52:38
  tells you what your value is. And for a lot of people that's
• 1:52:41
  brutal. For a lot of people that's like
• 1:52:45
  when you find out, I mean you're basically like throwing yourself
• 1:52:48
  out there like hey I'm available.
• 1:52:49
  Anybody want me and when you find out that the people who
• 1:52:52
  want you or nobody wants you but if the people who want you are
• 1:52:55
  just their lesser than where you're at.
• 1:52:59
  That's a tough pill to swallow for a lot of kids and this is a
• 1:53:02
  tough tough mental health time of the year that nobody really
• 1:53:06
  is talking about. Because you know, there's
• 1:53:09
  there's those people out there who like, what was it, why why?
• 1:53:11
  Why kids cuckoo, why could kids complain.
• 1:53:14
  Like they got the portal, they could have the freedom to go
• 1:53:16
  wherever they want to. Well the unfortunate part is
• 1:53:18
  like look. There's another side to that
• 1:53:20
  coin. Right?
• 1:53:22
  Like you can jump in the portal and think you're going to go to
• 1:53:26
  you know, Prime Steak you like I said and you come to come to
• 1:53:32
  find out. You're at green green beans, and
• 1:53:34
  coleslaw Tech, right? And on a partial And you know,
• 1:53:42
  that's a tough pill to swallow and not everybody is really
• 1:53:46
  prepared for that. And Yeah, I know my heartbeat
• 1:53:52
  probably seems a little weird but I do, I do send my heartbeat
• 1:53:56
  props out to all the kids. All the young people males and
• 1:53:59
  females were in the portal and I really do wish that you find
• 1:54:03
  Salvation and betterment because I know that's why you're in the
• 1:54:07
  portal. Evan, are you with me, huh?
• 1:54:16
  You are me? My heart.
• 1:54:20
  Be props. Go out to The Collegiate
• 1:54:25
  athletes that are about to. Compete at the world
• 1:54:31
  championships. Next year, next week. and, you
• 1:54:42
  know, if there is a If there's any, any advice that I mean,
• 1:54:51
  there really isn't any advice that I can give these these
• 1:54:54
  young men and young women. But what I will say is that The
• 1:55:00
  feeling will be different. The, the air will be a little
• 1:55:05
  thicker. The intensity will be higher.
• 1:55:11
  And a lot of your Idols are going to become rivals.
• 1:55:17
  This is a moment where you are going to be exposed to the very
• 1:55:22
  best in the world and you know, in terms of my, you know, me
• 1:55:31
  viewing and watching the World Championships, you know, next
• 1:55:34
  week and the week after I'm very curious to see how many of those
• 1:55:39
  young men and young women Accept that challenge and go and
• 1:55:45
  compete their hearts out. You know what we do here year
• 1:55:51
  after year? I mean obviously is that, you
• 1:55:54
  know, we trumpet, the accomplishments of Collegiate
• 1:55:59
  athletes and year after year. After year the results, speak
• 1:56:04
  for themselves. We see world-class athlete
• 1:56:07
  world-class results at the NCAA meat.
• 1:56:12
  And the true litmus test comes right.
• 1:56:16
  Okay. You did that amongst your peers.
• 1:56:20
  Now, you got to do it against the best.
• 1:56:23
  And, you know, I am really looking forward to next week and
• 1:56:28
  we do the preview because, you know, I'm curious to see who who
• 1:56:36
  has who on their radar and but yeah, heart be props to you
• 1:56:41
  young men and young women, it's going to be exciting.
• 1:56:48
  Going last, wrapping it up. I wanted to give Harvey props to
• 1:56:51
  the women's Coach running coaches Collective.
• 1:56:55
  It's an organization organization who is re, I don't
• 1:56:59
  know if repurposed regroups realigns repurpose themselves
• 1:57:03
  and just stand for something that's notable.
• 1:57:08
  They've got Karan, Sheila, Melissa, Julia, Helene, and I
• 1:57:15
  feel like I'm missing a name, so, And I apologize, but they've
• 1:57:19
  got an event coming up soon, so take a look at that but they
• 1:57:23
  just its support for women athletes, female athletes, as
• 1:57:26
  well as women coaches. And so not that we don't have
• 1:57:32
  support but there's never enough support right?
• 1:57:34
  And for males and females alike, but specifically, the females in
• 1:57:36
  a coaching profession aren't profession of which is male
• 1:57:39
  dominant. So shout-out, Harvey.
• 1:57:42
  Props to you all, keep doing what you're doing.
• 1:57:44
  Don't get discouraged, and let's keep That boat moving forward.
• 1:57:48
  So with that being said, I said I was going to try to keep us to
• 1:57:52
  a shorter time period this week and I failed so sorry, but that
• 1:57:56
  just means that you all get to exercise a little bit longer,
• 1:57:58
  keep walking a little bit longer and get that workout in so we're
• 1:58:02
  done. So with that said, thank you
• 1:58:05
  everyone. See you again next week and
• 1:58:07
  we'll talk to you soon. Bye, everyone.
• 1:58:10
  Grab two W's. When the lights come on.
• 1:59:12
  The are small. We put it in slow-mo.
• 1:59:15
  What you fast for athletics. Pamela?
• 1:59:17
  See the task force.