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Christine Shares Her Own Personal Story With Lung Cancer · The Cubby and Christine Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's Covey and Christine and Covey special guest that
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to introduce today. Someone that I saw on
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  Speaker 1: TV on the Today Show. Shia Cooperman Bowler is with
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  Speaker 1: us and Shira was on the Today Show and she's
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  Speaker 1: written a book called One Scan Saved My Life, How
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  Speaker 1: one woman's story will change the way we detect lung cancer.
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  Speaker 1: When she was on the screen saw me, I went
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  Speaker 1: running for the volume, yep, because I have yet to
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  Speaker 1: see anyone come out with my story, a story that
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  Speaker 1: I can relate to, which I will get into. First,
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  Speaker 1: I want to introduce Shira. Shira, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Christine, thank you for having me. And Cobby. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I was just speaking to my colleagues about it this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Today's really emotional for me, and I've spoken to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of different people, but finding a fellow survivor and
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  Speaker 2: thriver and friend through all this who's ready to share
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  Speaker 2: their story touches me more than I thought it would
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  Speaker 2: and touches me more than I ever imagined it would.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's so special to be here. So
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Shira, thank you and Cubby, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: You and producer Kristen have definitely made this a safe space,
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  Speaker 1: a supportive space. So a year ago I was diagnosed
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  Speaker 1: with the lung cancer the same that you had, Shira,
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  Speaker 1: and they took some time away from work and it
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  Speaker 1: was hard and it was scary. But I'm not here
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  Speaker 1: to worry anyone. I know the world is rough, it's
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  Speaker 1: stressful out there. I don't want to add to stress.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to know I'm okay. But I did
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  Speaker 1: have this experience, and it did feel like it came
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  Speaker 1: out of left field because it seems that it's happening
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of people who Sorry, I know it's tough.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing great, though, You're doing great.
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  Speaker 1: So, Shira, I was really surprised at my diagnosis, as
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  Speaker 1: I know you were. I think many times lung cancer
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  Speaker 1: is associated with people who were at high risk, maybe
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  Speaker 1: because they're smokers or working conditions or a certain lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: You and I did not have those factors going on.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. When the doctor told me that I had
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  Speaker 2: lung cancer, I told him he was wrong. I told
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  Speaker 2: him that it was the wrong scan, that maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the electronic medical records messed up and transferred it to
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  Speaker 2: the wrong person.
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  Speaker 3: Because you never smoked.
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  Speaker 2: I've never puffed a cigarette. I don't even I not
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  Speaker 2: only have never smoked, I've actually never been around secondhand smoke.
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  Speaker 2: My father's a lung doctor, so my whole life I
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  Speaker 2: would hold my breath if I'd see someone smoking on
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  Speaker 2: the street, I would run the other way. I always felt,
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  Speaker 2: and my brother's the same way that if we ever
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  Speaker 2: puffed a cigarette or stood near somebody who smoked, our
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  Speaker 2: dad would know. And so we were scared out of
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  Speaker 2: our mind. So even when I told my dad that
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  Speaker 2: the doctors told me I had lung cancer, he knew
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  Speaker 2: I'd never had a cigarette, and he was like, what, No,
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  Speaker 2: that can't be. And then as it unraveled and the
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  Speaker 2: truth was I did have lung cancer, he kind of said,
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  Speaker 2: how did this happen? What happened? And almost jokingly, we
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  Speaker 2: kind of decided maybe because he was a lung doctor,
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  Speaker 2: because somebody had to get up and yell and scream
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  Speaker 2: and tell people that lung cancer is killing more young
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  Speaker 2: healthy women than breast cancer and ovarian cancer and colon
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  Speaker 2: cancer combined. And we're not talking about it, we're not
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  Speaker 2: screening for it. We think it's only for high risk
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  Speaker 2: patients that smoke cigarettes, and it's not. And the problem
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  Speaker 2: is is today to get the lung screening, they want
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  Speaker 2: you to be over fifty in smoke a packaday for
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  Speaker 2: twenty years. And Christine didn't do that and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: do that, and we both had lung cancer. And the
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  Speaker 2: reality is that they found seventy percent of people diagnosed
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  Speaker 2: with lung cancer in twenty twenty five didn't meet those guidelines.
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  Speaker 2: They were not over fifty and they did not smoke
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  Speaker 2: a packaday for twenty years. So we have to change it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a lot of the narrative. And so I think.
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  Speaker 3: Over fifty years old, like if I wanted to get checked,
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  Speaker 3: are they going to be like, oh, well you don't smoke,
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  Speaker 3: so no. Correct, So we have to break down that door. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, you can request to pay out a pocket and
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  Speaker 2: just not put it on your insurance, but you really
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  Speaker 2: have to push and work a lot with your doctor
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  Speaker 2: to get that done. But correct, you can't get insurance
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  Speaker 2: to cover it like they cover a mammogram or chronoscopy.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I just think it's scary because we shouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: that stigma and we shouldn't pass away from it. If
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  Speaker 2: we're caught early, like you, Christine, and like me, we're okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's really scary. It's very emotional, but you know, they
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  Speaker 2: cut out part of our lung and we're back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're here, we're recovering. We're very grateful, very grateful
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  Speaker 1: that it was caught so early. For me, they call
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  Speaker 1: it like an incidental I have asthma, so we were
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  Speaker 1: screening my lungs because I was wheezing, and then we
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  Speaker 1: saw this. These the simple ways to put it as
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  Speaker 1: a spot on the lung, and we said, okay, we'll
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  Speaker 1: follow it for two years, and it was at the
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  Speaker 1: end of two years. I was going for my very
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  Speaker 1: last scan at the end of two years, and that's
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  Speaker 1: when it started to change. And then once they see
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  Speaker 1: it change, you can go for a pet scan a biopsy,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when they determine that's got to go. And
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  Speaker 1: the sooner you can move on that the better. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why we feel so strongly about spreading the word
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  Speaker 1: and awareness and hopefully getting screenings for people at an
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  Speaker 1: earlier age and people who aren't considered at risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I talk a lot about it in
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  Speaker 2: the book that there's other risk factors, and unfortunately I
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  Speaker 2: haven't found my risk factor and you haven't found years.
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  Speaker 2: But there are other ones like occupational hazards, family history. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: breast cancer survivors have a twofold increase of getting lung
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  Speaker 2: cancer as a primary cancer within five years. So there's
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  Speaker 2: other risk factors that should be accounted for. I also
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  Speaker 2: think you know you were lucky that they found it. Incidentally,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times people are nervous about those scans,
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  Speaker 2: and I always try to talk to people about it.
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  Speaker 2: That your skin has spots, your lungs have nodules. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same, and what do we do with a dermatologist, Right,
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  Speaker 2: we go back. We checked the little skin spots, they're
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  Speaker 2: the same. Have they changed? Are they growing? Is the
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  Speaker 2: color different? And that determines whether you buy up to
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  Speaker 2: see it. It's the same with your lungs. So the
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  Speaker 2: reason they checked you for two years was let's see
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  Speaker 2: what this nodule does. If it doesn't do anything, you're
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  Speaker 2: fine because your skin has freckles, you know, but it changed,
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  Speaker 2: And you're really lucky that you advocated for yourself and
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  Speaker 2: followed up and went and did it again. And that
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  Speaker 2: your doctor saw it right right and saw that change
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  Speaker 2: and made note of it. It is mostly found incidentally.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I did a random scan because my husband
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  Speaker 2: and I are in healthcare and we do all the
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  Speaker 2: random scans and all the random you know, different tests
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  Speaker 2: that are available out there. And that's why I'm here today.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you're here today, because it was an incidental finding.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know how the narratives changed for kolonoscopies.
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  Speaker 1: It used to be people over fifty, and then we
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  Speaker 1: found that it was affecting younger people, and now the
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  Speaker 1: guidelines are forty five. So we're feeling the same about
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  Speaker 1: getting a scan, you know, these for the lungs and
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  Speaker 1: for your chest to maybe we have to think about
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  Speaker 1: doing this, not even maybe we should be doing this
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  Speaker 1: at a younger age and it should be available to
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  Speaker 1: more people. You know. Once again, we're saying that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't have any of the risk factors that are usually considered.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it's happening, but I know I
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  Speaker 1: saw several surgeons and they all told me they're seeing
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  Speaker 1: more and more of this, especially with women and younger women. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I think when I was laying in the hospital bed
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  Speaker 2: with the chest too. Remember how terrible that is in recovery.
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  Speaker 2: That's when I realized. I kept thinking, like, how did
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  Speaker 2: this happen to me? What did I do wrong? You know,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? And when I realized that I was
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  Speaker 2: so lucky to catch it early and incidentally, and that
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't unique, Like this diagnosis is super common, but
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  Speaker 2: we're not talking about it and we're not paying attention
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  Speaker 2: to it. And when I think about the scan like
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  Speaker 2: relative right. So you I've had a lot of mammograms.
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  Speaker 2: I've had one kolonoscopy. They hurt in a mammogram. The
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  Speaker 2: kolonoscopy is like kind of two days of work, right,
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  Speaker 2: You can't really.
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  Speaker 1: Talks about prep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, prep, they put you out under. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: not like that enjoyable. But these the CT scan that
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  Speaker 2: tests your lungs is like three minutes. You don't even
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  Speaker 2: take your clothes off, you lay down in and out
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  Speaker 2: that you're not claustrophobic or I wasn't. I'm very claustrophobic usually,
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  Speaker 2: and I just it doesn't hurt. I just found that
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  Speaker 2: part really interesting. So I'm often telling friends, go with
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  Speaker 2: your friend, go at your coffee break. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: not something you've to miss work. It's not something that
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  Speaker 2: takes two days of prep. It's not something that's painful.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually really easy. And then the other side of
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  Speaker 2: it when I tell my peers to do it is
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  Speaker 2: they get nervous, right, They're like, well, what if they
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  Speaker 2: find something? So then I talk to them about are
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  Speaker 2: you nervous when you get your mammogram or your colonoscopy. No,
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking I should be fine and if I'm not,
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  Speaker 2: at least they'll catch it early. And it's the same
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  Speaker 2: You should be fine, right, yes, but if you're not,
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  Speaker 2: be like Christine, yes and catch it early.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And that's I completely understand the fear, and
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  Speaker 1: I understand the fear behind any any kind of test.
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  Speaker 1: We're all afraid of a diagnosis, but we always better to.
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  Speaker 3: Get the diagnosis and not know and it sit.
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  Speaker 1: There when they can, when the doctors can do, will
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  Speaker 1: still help us. And yeah, surgery can help you where
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  Speaker 1: treatment can help you. I think when surgeon has said
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  Speaker 1: to me, because I think I went around to different
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  Speaker 1: doctors because I wanted to hear you guys screwed up right,
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  Speaker 1: You got the wrong test, the wrong test results. Like
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  Speaker 1: you said, Shira, it's like, not that, that's just one.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do others. And you know, one surgeon finally said
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  Speaker 1: to me, you know, don't stick your head in the sand,
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  Speaker 1: and like that, Really that stuck with me. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't hide from this. So he's like, whether you
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  Speaker 1: do the surgery now or you do it in a
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  Speaker 1: few months, you're going to need this surgery. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: if somebody told me I had a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: cancer in me, I'd wanted out of there as soon
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  Speaker 1: as possible. So I went with that, you know, moved
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  Speaker 1: very quickly, I think, before I had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: even process what was going on. But like you said, Shira,
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  Speaker 1: like you, you kind of question yourself. I did a
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  Speaker 1: lot like well, what did I do wrong? What happened?
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  Speaker 1: And again the doctors didn't have an answer for me.
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  Speaker 1: One said it was a bad sell. That's all they
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  Speaker 1: know right now. They said, they're trying to look at
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  Speaker 1: why this is happening to younger women, and their suggests
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  Speaker 1: is it something in our environment, is it makeup, is
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  Speaker 1: it cleaning products, is it what we're doing for a living.
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  Speaker 1: We just we really don't know. There doesn't even between
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  Speaker 1: you and I have like exchange notes. We don't even
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  Speaker 1: have the same kind of lifestyle, so don't We really
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  Speaker 1: don't know why this is happening. We just know that
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, And they're trying to do different tests. In Asia,
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  Speaker 2: they ran a big study because they found that the
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  Speaker 2: women were getting it faster who did not smoke than
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  Speaker 2: the men who did smoke. So that risk factor seemed
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  Speaker 2: like it wasn't the right direction, and they thought maybe
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  Speaker 2: it was cooking whiles. And to be honest, Christine, I
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  Speaker 2: don't cook, I don't laundry, I don't get a manicure,
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  Speaker 2: so those things were not on my docket for risk factors.
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  Speaker 2: But they actually redid the test here in New York
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  Speaker 2: City because in New York no one cooks, right, and
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  Speaker 2: they found the same thing. They found that the women
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  Speaker 2: who weren't smoking that Asian population were still getting it
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  Speaker 2: at a higher rate than the men that were. And
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  Speaker 2: they don't know why, and so they keep, you know,
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  Speaker 2: coming up with the hypothesis, trying to test it, and
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  Speaker 2: they haven't figured it out yet. Right, some things they know, right,
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  Speaker 2: if you smoke, you have a higher risk. If you're
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  Speaker 2: a veteran near burn pits, you have a higher risk
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  Speaker 2: a firefighter. You know, there's these occupational hazards breast cancer survivor.
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  Speaker 2: So there are some risk factors that they've been able
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  Speaker 2: to pinpoint, but for the most part, they don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and so the only answer is check your lungs right,
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  Speaker 2: let's make sure. I think, like all the profits from
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  Speaker 2: my book are going to my nonprofit. It's called Cancer
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't Care. That's it, Cancer doesn't Care dot com. And
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  Speaker 2: the reality around it is just to pay for people's
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  Speaker 2: screens because you were lucky that you had asthma, so
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  Speaker 2: they were following you. I was lucky because I am
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  Speaker 2: in the healthcare world, so I just thought it would
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to do a scan and that I can
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  Speaker 2: afford it, and you can afford it, and we have
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  Speaker 2: the right you know, means connections, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people don't. And I don't think cancer cares whether you
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  Speaker 2: have all the connections and the means, So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: why should our system care? And so I think there
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  Speaker 2: are so many great opportunities and tests out there to
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  Speaker 2: beat cancer and make cancer chronic illness not something we
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  Speaker 2: die from, but something we maybe die with that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we need to just pivot a little bit and we
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  Speaker 2: get our mammograms, make sure we get our colonoscopies, make
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  Speaker 2: sure we get our skin checked, make sure we get
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  Speaker 2: you know, a ct of our lungs.
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  Speaker 1: Right, let's add this to our screenings to keep ourselves
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  Speaker 1: safe as much as possible. I think I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to add that rate on Were they tying it into
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  Speaker 1: rdon being a risk? Like you should check where you're
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  Speaker 1: living people who are exposed to rate on.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe definitely you can get a little factor.
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  Speaker 3: We have one in our Pennsylvania home. Yeah, like there's
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  Speaker 3: more rate on in Pennsylvania for.
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  Speaker 1: Some reason, it's naturally occurring.
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  Speaker 3: I never heard about a new We have a home
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  Speaker 3: in New Jersey and a vacation home in Pennsylvania and
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  Speaker 3: they made us get a rate on thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. Certain states are better about telling you
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  Speaker 2: about it. But you can go online and put your
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  Speaker 2: zip code in and it'll tell you. But the easiest
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  Speaker 2: is they're just a couple hundred dollars. You can get
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  Speaker 2: a rate on detector. There's a few rate on companies
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  Speaker 2: that online that'll send them to you and just hooks
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  Speaker 2: up to your phone. And it shows you your rate on. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of libraries you can check it out like
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  Speaker 2: a rad on detector and take it home for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks okay free. Yeah, I would recommend like
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  Speaker 2: trying that and then maybe as you get comfortable, buying
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  Speaker 2: one for a couple hundred dollars because the rad on
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  Speaker 2: exposure in your house changes dramatically with weather and time
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  Speaker 2: of day and time of year for whatever reason. And
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  Speaker 2: then I've tested mine and didn't not have high rate
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  Speaker 2: on in my own either. But I did put in
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  Speaker 2: a rate on mitigator system in the house because I
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  Speaker 2: was so nervous after everything that happened. And it's just
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  Speaker 2: like a pipe with a fan blowing under your house.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not that financially, you know, detrimental and it's
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  Speaker 2: really easy, but you're right, it is another risk factor, right.
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  Speaker 1: And this is this is why it's so important. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy that you went on television and and that
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  Speaker 1: I got to meet you, and.
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask you share, how does it feel
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  Speaker 3: the impact that you played here because you affect millions
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  Speaker 3: of people on TV, right, and your book you hit Christine,
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  Speaker 3: and then Christine is now sending the message out, so
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  Speaker 3: like you guys like passing the baton. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I applaud you both for spreading the message, and.
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  Speaker 1: You know, thank you for being so supportive.
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  Speaker 3: And I applaud you Christine because I supported you when
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  Speaker 3: you wanted to keep it a secret and it was
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  Speaker 3: a big decision for you to come out. And I
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  Speaker 3: know Shira played a big part of it too when
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  Speaker 3: you saw her on TV. And how do you feel
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  Speaker 3: now that it's.
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  Speaker 1: Out and everyone knows well, like I said, and Sherral
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  Speaker 1: will get to you and how you feel about your impact.
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  Speaker 1: But Shira was a great sample of why I felt like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I need to speak up and help raise awareness. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get through it again. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: worry anybody, And that was my original reason. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to worry anybody. And I feel like we come
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  Speaker 1: on the air to spread joy. We just want to
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  Speaker 1: be your friend and be happy and make things better
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  Speaker 1: as much as we can. Because the world has been
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  Speaker 1: tough and people have a lot, they have a lot
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  Speaker 1: that they're dealing with a lot of stress. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to add to that. I just want to say
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  Speaker 1: you are not alone, and we are here supporting you.
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  Speaker 1: And when it comes to lung cancer in particular, there's
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  Speaker 1: just not a lot of conversations around it at all,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't see real support groups around it either.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, can we build a community where we're
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  Speaker 1: supporting each other too, so again you don't feel so
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  Speaker 1: isolated with this.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I would say lung cancer survivors is more lonely than
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: like a breast cancer survivor or others. So I've latched
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: on a lot to my breast cancer surviving friends because
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you need someone to kind of share with. But in
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: this process, as I said at the beginning, like when
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: you reached out, and then last week when I got
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the text that said I'm ready, I was more emotional
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: than I thought I would be because it's touching more
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: people and it's making impact and a difference, and you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: we need to stand up and yell from the rooftops
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: or the next person won't be as lucky as we are.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't wish lung cancer on anyone, but I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: wish that if you're going to be one of the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: unlucky to have it, you're one of the lucky to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: catch it so early, right, I mean, for us, we
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: have an over ninety percent chance of survival when you
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: catch it early enough that you can just resect it
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and it's out. But if you're later stage, when you
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: really have a symptom, it's really scary. It can be
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: less than ten percent. And it's not fair.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: It's not No one in the world deserves cancer. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: don't care if you're smoking or not smoking, or what
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: your job is or what your lifestyle is. Would do
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: anything to never have cancer in this world, all of
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: us would. I think we've all been affected by it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I've been on every side of it. I've had it,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I've been the caregiver. I've lost people to it. So again, Shira,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: thank you because you're out there spreading the word and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: doing the good work and raising awareness and helping us
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to raise funds for people to get the screenings and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: also for research. Would love to see more time and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: attention and research to fighting cancer and lung cancer in particular.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Christine, you're doing it now too.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Oh. I am like unofficially, you guys could be a
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: pretty fierce team.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, if you ever need me to, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: don't know what do we do.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: We could be the blonde and the brunette. We could
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: run around and scream from the top tours.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I will do that, exactly. I'll just like
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I actually hubbies, the singer and the girl.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Less hair, so you blonde brunette and the hair.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Guys and the last hairy Well, thank you both.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I mean thank you, And this is my opportunity to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: thank you, and to thank Kristen and Jill or Boston
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: everyone here at iHeart for being so so supportive and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: wonderful and encouraging me to speak up today because I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I have been very emotional about this. Shirah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You're incredible. You are an inspiration the way you've shared
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: your story, the way you live your life, and and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: thank you for thank you for doing this for us,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: for everyone.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: We applaud you both. Let's all do it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Come on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Cancer, Yes,