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The Kenny Report | 6 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Lone from the skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me on the eightieth anniversary of D Day. Tonight,
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  Speaker 3: I'll show you how the D Day heroes are being
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  Speaker 3: welcomed in France, and I'll talk to a former Foreign Minister,
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  Speaker 3: Alexander Downer in London. Back in Australia, the ugly fight
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  Speaker 3: over the Middle East and the reckless behavior of the Greens.
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  Speaker 4: Bridget mackenzie will join me.
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  Speaker 3: Bob catter is going to tell us about his push
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  Speaker 3: to make it against the law to refuse our legal tender.
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  Speaker 3: I'll talk about the toxic effect of social media and
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  Speaker 3: smartphones on our children with Claire Row plus Tim Blair
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  Speaker 3: and Mark Nicholson on how Albo's nuclear scare campaign seems
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  Speaker 3: to have backfired.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: The political focus today is on the most destructive political
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  Speaker 3: force in the country, the Greens. After both the Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister and the Opposition leader turn their sites on the
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  Speaker 3: Greens over their Endorsemon down in encouragement of pro Palestinian
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  Speaker 3: and anti Israel protests that have often gone way too far.
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  Speaker 3: The reaction has been dramatic. Peter Dutton says the Greens
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  Speaker 3: are evil and Adam ban doesn't belong in parliament.
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  Speaker 5: People need to have a conversation with their kids and
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  Speaker 5: their grandkids, with their next door neighbors just about how
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  Speaker 5: evil the current Greens party is. That they're nothing about
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  Speaker 5: the environment, They're all about radical causes and somehow Adam Bant,
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  Speaker 5: who I think is unfit to be in public office,
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  Speaker 5: he has led a party now that is central to
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  Speaker 5: what we're seeing on campuses and the distribution of hate
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  Speaker 5: and anti Semitica messages online, the chanting of river to
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  Speaker 5: the sea in the Fara etc.
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  Speaker 3: And as you would have heard, Band himself is threatening
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  Speaker 3: to sue Labour's Attorney General Mark Dreyfus.
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  Speaker 6: And in a desperate attempt to distract from Labors ongoing
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  Speaker 6: complicity and support for the invasion, they a series of
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  Speaker 6: outrageous accusations attempting to link the Greens to events, certain
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  Speaker 6: events that have happened at electorate officers.
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  Speaker 3: Look, we'll leave them to sort out those legal issues.
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  Speaker 3: But what does happen is that the Greens encourage the activism.
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  Speaker 3: They fire up the retric against Israel and against Australia's position,
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  Speaker 3: and clearly some protesters go too far.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen that on university.
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  Speaker 3: Campuses, on the streets and at MP's electorate officers. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: Green's senators were Palestinian scarves in Parliament as a form
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  Speaker 3: of protest, and they've called for the Israeli ambassador to
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  Speaker 3: be expelled from the country, and Greens senators have chanted
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  Speaker 3: the vile slogan about Hamas's intention to obliterate Israel.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 8: I do support and have participated in the change from
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  Speaker 8: the river to the sea. This is something that I
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  Speaker 8: think supporters of Palestine are very clear about, and I
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  Speaker 8: think that we will continue to chant from the river
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  Speaker 8: to the sea to ensure that freedom and peace are delivered.
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  Speaker 8: And I don't have any objection to that.
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  Speaker 4: Dear, oh dear.
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  Speaker 3: Still, labor can hardly go too hard on that one
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  Speaker 3: of their own has done the same, sounding for all
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  Speaker 3: the world like a Green.
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  Speaker 2: This is a genocide and we need to stop pretending otherwise.
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  Speaker 9: From the river to the sea Palestine will be free.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but under fire now over their views, the Greens
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  Speaker 3: are lashing out and claiming to be the party of peace.
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  Speaker 6: We are not going to be lectured to about peace
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  Speaker 6: and nonviolence by a prime minister that backs the invasion
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  Speaker 6: of Gaza. The Greens have been crystal clear party of
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  Speaker 6: peace and nonviolence at home and overseas.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they say, but listen to them talk about
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  Speaker 3: the invasion of Gaza. Didn't hum Us invade Israel from
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  Speaker 3: Gaza and kill twelve hundred people and take more than
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  Speaker 3: two hundred hostages They still hold one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: or more. Israel is trying to root out hum Us.
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  Speaker 3: If Hummus freeze the hostages and lays down its weapons,
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  Speaker 3: the war will be over.
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  Speaker 4: What aren't the Greens call for that?
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  Speaker 3: Why don't the Greens target hum Us and their terrorist
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  Speaker 3: affiliates rather than Israel. The Greens say they condemn the
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  Speaker 3: atrocities of October the seventh and the taking of hostages,
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  Speaker 3: So why don't they appeal every day.
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  Speaker 4: For the release of hostages.
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  Speaker 3: And why do they demand Israel lays down its arms?
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  Speaker 3: What then and wait for the next October the seventh
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  Speaker 3: atrocity to occur? This is obfuscation. They talk out of
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  Speaker 3: both sides of them. In reality, they oppose Israel and
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  Speaker 3: we need to take them at their word. When some
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  Speaker 3: of their party really do want a Palestinian state to
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  Speaker 3: run from the river to the Sea. What we hear
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  Speaker 3: a lot about from the Greens and their fellow travelers
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  Speaker 3: is the death toll in Gaza. They parrot the numbers
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  Speaker 3: that come from Humas and they focus on what Hummus
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  Speaker 3: claims are civilian deaths. How many terrorists have been killed?
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  Speaker 3: Has Humas ever reported that figure. The truth is that
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  Speaker 3: this terror is unfolding for one reason and one reason alone,
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  Speaker 3: and that is because Humas have deliberately started it through
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  Speaker 3: the horrific slaughter of innocence, and they deliberately prolong it
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  Speaker 3: through more terror. And we never hear about how one
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand or more Israelis remain displaced within their own country,
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  Speaker 3: unable to return to homes and towns in the south
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  Speaker 3: because of the ongoing threat from humma Us and the
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  Speaker 3: firing of rockets into civilian areas. And in the north too,
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  Speaker 3: towns remain evacuated because of indiscriminate rocket fire from Hesbalah
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  Speaker 3: across the border in Lebanon the face drone fire from
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  Speaker 3: Iran too. Of course, Israel, as ever, is under attack
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  Speaker 3: from multiple fronts. Peace only comes with the defeat of Hummas.
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  Speaker 3: Yet Hummas, a bloodthirsty Islamist terrorist organization, that murders children,
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  Speaker 3: mothers and babies and still holds them hostage. Humas wins
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  Speaker 3: open support from some of the protesters. The Greens so
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  Speaker 3: happily encourage.
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  Speaker 10: Humas deserve our unconditional support, not because they agree with
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  Speaker 10: their strategy.
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  Speaker 11: You can't condemn what Hamas did in October.
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  Speaker 10: Now we will not condemn what Hamas did. We must
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  Speaker 10: be unconditional, but we must be critical.
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  Speaker 3: Also, that student has now been expelled from the Australian
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  Speaker 3: National University.
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  Speaker 4: Well done by the a ANDU.
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  Speaker 3: It should have been immediate, but thankfully it's been done.
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  Speaker 4: I hope the AFP have interviewed.
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  Speaker 3: This student too, because Hummas are a listed terrorist organization. Now,
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  Speaker 3: while the a ANDU has done something useful, other universities
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  Speaker 3: are pathetic. Sydney UNI is still trying to strike deals
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  Speaker 3: with the protesters, actually looking to cave into some of
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  Speaker 3: their demands rather than stand up to them. Last week
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  Speaker 3: I said the vice chancellor, former ABC boss Mark Scott
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  Speaker 3: should go. Mark Scott should resign. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 3: do not want to lead, if you do not want
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  Speaker 3: to run the UNI, if you want to outsource the
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  Speaker 3: running of the university to protesters, then you should resign.
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  Speaker 3: Well today the opposition leader made this call to.
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  Speaker 5: The university campuses have been taken over and somebody like
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  Speaker 5: Mark Scott should resign and discussed and in disgrace. His
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  Speaker 5: actions are disgusting and even worse than the fact that
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  Speaker 5: he's allowing it to continue on, he's facilitating it, and
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  Speaker 5: he is, by his weak silence, condoning the conduct that
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  Speaker 5: we're seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, weakness is everywhere, and where there is weakness, the
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  Speaker 3: extremists will always thrive and our values will always be
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  Speaker 3: under threat. Yet, while Anthony Alberanezi too has been criticizing
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  Speaker 3: the Greens, he didn't really rule out negotiating with them
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  Speaker 3: to form government if he needs to after the election.
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  Speaker 3: The Austraight and Labor Party proudly does not govern in
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  Speaker 3: coalition with any political party.
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  Speaker 9: Nor well we in the future, mister speaking, No, well.
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  Speaker 4: We in the future?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, coalition doesn't really answer the question, does it.
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  Speaker 3: The truth is, of course, Labor relies on Green's preferences
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  Speaker 3: in many seats and it needs their votes in the
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  Speaker 3: Senate to pass pretty much anything. The Greens too often
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  Speaker 3: and work against our democracy and its institutions and its alliances.
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  Speaker 3: They want to mess with all this rather than strengthen it.
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  Speaker 3: They are not a force for good.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I made the mistake of flicking onto ABC radio this morning,
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  Speaker 3: and I got the fright of my life that first.
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  Speaker 3: But then I realized, of course, this was groundhog Day,
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  Speaker 3: because this is the sort of alarmism we get from
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  Speaker 3: the ABC and much of the media.
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  Speaker 4: Like clockwork, we're.
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  Speaker 12: Being warned it's highly likely the planet will exceed a
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  Speaker 12: global warming threshold within five years. The World Meteorological Organization
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  Speaker 12: is sounding the alarm.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was plenty on the TV as well.
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  Speaker 13: Look, every single month has set a new monthly temperature records,
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  Speaker 13: and often by a significant margin. That's the area we've
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  Speaker 13: shaded under the line the main reason human caused climate change.
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  Speaker 13: I don't expect these records to stand for long. A
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  Speaker 13: new report from the UN's Weatherbody says there is an
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  Speaker 13: almost nine in ten chance there'll be an even hotter
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  Speaker 13: year within the next five years.
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  Speaker 3: Now, today's dose of alarmism wasn't prompted by any new
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  Speaker 3: scientific information. As ever, it was prompted only by another
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  Speaker 3: public relations pushed by the United Nations, headed up, of course,
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  Speaker 3: by the former Socialist Party Prime Minister of Portugal, we.
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  Speaker 14: Are playing Russian Roulette with our planet, and we need
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  Speaker 14: an exit tramp off the highway to climate hell.
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  Speaker 3: We're playing Russian Roulette with the planet, the highway to
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  Speaker 3: climate hell. Aren't these the people who tell us to
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  Speaker 3: follow the science, then why don't they talk about the
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  Speaker 3: science instead of trying to script.
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  Speaker 4: B grade horror films.
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  Speaker 3: They keep crying wolf, and the weather keeps occurring within
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  Speaker 3: the parameters we've been used to. I mean, they talk
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  Speaker 3: about average global temperatures as if they measured them accurately
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  Speaker 3: twenty years ago, forty years ago, sixty or one hundred
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  Speaker 3: years ago. And they compare our temperatures to the averages
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  Speaker 3: they claim existed in the nineteenth century. And they keep
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  Speaker 3: adjusting how they record and measure this stuff. And they
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  Speaker 3: tell us we'll hit a new record in the next
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  Speaker 3: five years.
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  Speaker 4: I bet we do too.
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  Speaker 3: The climate gate emails told us very clearly how so
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  Speaker 3: much of this is driven by narrative rather than science
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  Speaker 3: and observed reality. This stuff is regurgitated by media, especially
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  Speaker 3: at the ABC, of course, relentlessly without skepticism or context.
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  Speaker 3: And they wonder why people, especially children are anxious. Plenty
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  Speaker 3: of media appointing to the lack of snow now in
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  Speaker 3: the Australian Alps this year as evidence of global warming.
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  Speaker 3: The only trouble is they've been saying that for decades,
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  Speaker 3: and we've had some cracking seasons.
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  Speaker 4: In recent years.
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  Speaker 3: And while we always like to start the season in
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  Speaker 3: Australia by the second week of June, most years there's
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  Speaker 3: not enough snow. The worst season, by the way, was
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  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three, before global warming was a thing. So
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  Speaker 3: let's hope the predictions that snow will be a thing
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  Speaker 3: of the past do the same job that Tim Flannery's
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  Speaker 3: predictions have done.
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  Speaker 10: Even the rain at falls isn't actually going to fill
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  Speaker 10: our dams and our river system. Even the rain at
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  Speaker 10: falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our
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  Speaker 10: river system.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had little awspit floods and full dam since
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  Speaker 3: Flannery said that. So maybe the climate doomsayers have just
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  Speaker 3: guaranteed we end up with a bumper snow season.
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  Speaker 4: I sure hope.
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  Speaker 3: So now we haven't forgotten the hatless and hopeless Immigration
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  Speaker 3: Minister Andrew Giles and on Adelaide Radio Today five Double
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  Speaker 3: A Brecky host David Pemberthey and Will Goodings. They made
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  Speaker 3: sure the Prime Minister couldn't forget about him either, and
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  Speaker 3: they flush out some remarkable excuses.
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  Speaker 7: You get.
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  Speaker 8: The message to our listeners is he's doing a good job.
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  Speaker 15: It's a difficult job, and it is we've inherited a
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  Speaker 15: dysfunctional department.
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  Speaker 11: That was he doing a good job.
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  Speaker 15: There were more than he is doing the job that
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  Speaker 15: he has been dealt with.
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  Speaker 3: Poor old Andrew Giles a two years into the job,
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  Speaker 3: after he stuffed up a High Court case and mucked
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  Speaker 3: up the response to it with one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: convicted criminal non citizens set free so some could chalk
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  Speaker 3: up fresh chargers. And Giles also came up with Direction
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine, which has allowed eighty foreign criminals to escape deportation.
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  Speaker 3: And after all this, we're told Giles isn't really responsible.
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  Speaker 3: It was the previous government's fault police powers.
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  Speaker 4: N Shoch answer for ju he thinks not not.
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  Speaker 7: Shut for ja.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they keep saying.
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  Speaker 3: When will they accept responsibility for anything? Thanks again to
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  Speaker 3: Ray Hadley, to GP and the Robertson brothers for that song.
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  Speaker 3: I know plenty of you love it And if it's
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  Speaker 3: getting on anyone's nerves. Well, here's something I'll take full
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  Speaker 3: responsibility for that. And let's have a look at Johanna's
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  Speaker 3: Leak's cartoon for tomorrow. He's taken up this weather van attitude.
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  Speaker 3: In the tomorrow's editorial cartoon for The Australian, there's Albow
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  Speaker 3: trying to pick the wins of political expediency and one
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  Speaker 3: of those options was sitting on the fence. I reckon
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  Speaker 3: that one has got a bit of a workout now,
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  Speaker 3: something sobering and uplifting. It is the eightieth anniversary today
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  Speaker 3: of the D Day Landings, the Normandy Landings, the day
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  Speaker 3: the Allies landed in France to open up a new
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  Speaker 3: Western Front and push the Nazis out of France, out
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  Speaker 3: of Europe, and eventually out of existence. Because of the
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  Speaker 3: time difference for maladies will only be getting underway now
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  Speaker 3: in Europe, as during the sixth dawns in France. But
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  Speaker 3: American veterans have been arriving in recent days, and what
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  Speaker 3: is stirring and touching and deserved is the way they've
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  Speaker 3: been welcomed and thanked by young people who have grown
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  Speaker 3: up generations removed from the war, but who understand fully
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  Speaker 3: who delivered the freedom they enjoy.
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  Speaker 16: A heroes welcome for sixty six American World War II
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  Speaker 16: veterans as they arrived in France yesterday ahead of the
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  Speaker 16: eightieth anniversary of D Day this Thursday. An exuberant return
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  Speaker 16: for the veterans, who are all around one hundred years old,
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  Speaker 16: A lively man who belies their years as they engage
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  Speaker 16: with well wishers, wasting flags and photos.
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  Speaker 4: It's unreal.
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  Speaker 16: One hundred year old Bill Wall was an Air Force
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  Speaker 16: gunner in France and Germany.
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  Speaker 17: Oh some great CRIDs. Oh lord, people aren't there on
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  Speaker 17: their crosses? And oh my rage, Oh the two years.
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  Speaker 16: The reception as warm as it was emotional.
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  Speaker 4: My heart is formed, my heart is full.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, terrific reception. How about that veteran, he's the dead,
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  Speaker 3: his mates who perished. They're the true heroes, he says. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a fine sentiment. But so too are the survivors.
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  Speaker 3: It's terrific to see the commemorations. You'll see much more
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  Speaker 3: over the next day or so, and so we should.
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  Speaker 3: We need to honor their service and their sacrifice, and
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  Speaker 3: we need to work hard to protect the freedom and
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  Speaker 3: values that they fought for.
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  Speaker 4: Lest we forget.
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  Speaker 3: There's got to Canberra now and catch up with the
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  Speaker 3: National Senate leader Bridget mackenzie stirring scenes. That isn't it
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  Speaker 3: to see the veterans honored all these years on eighty
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  Speaker 3: years on after D Day?
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, it really is, Chris. And to think about everything
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  Speaker 18: they put on the line and those fallen to read
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  Speaker 18: Europe and the world of the Nazis, I think juxtaposes
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  Speaker 18: quite starkly with your opening messages. So yeah, but it
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  Speaker 18: is heartening to see them. I think when you go
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  Speaker 18: over to Europe and you see the men and Gate
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  Speaker 18: or visit Zonaback and you've got primary schools that are
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  Speaker 18: still celebrating the efforts of our soldiers and the Allied
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  Speaker 18: soldiers in those wars, it's very very heartwarming and we
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  Speaker 18: can't forget what they died for.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and there is broad community support across the political
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  Speaker 3: spectrum when we remember our veterans are specially from the
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  Speaker 3: Second World War. But we had the opposite of that
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  Speaker 3: breaking out in Canberra during this week, with the focus
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  Speaker 3: on the Greens in particular. Now I applaud the Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister for calling out the political opportunism of the Greens.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that they encourage a radical response the fact
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  Speaker 3: that they have been pushing incorrect messages into the public debate.
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  Speaker 3: But I asked why the Prime Minister hasn't been doing
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  Speaker 3: this for the past seven or eight months.
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  Speaker 4: Why has this only happened now.
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  Speaker 18: I think it's been quite breathtaking to watch this Prime
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  Speaker 18: minister's undergraduate response to the atrocities committed by Hamas on
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  Speaker 18: October the seventh. Every opportunity he's had to act, he's failed.
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  Speaker 18: There's been equivocation, there's been the moral equivalence dogma. Every
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  Speaker 18: opportunity he's had to actually do something substantial than other
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  Speaker 18: waighs some kind words this way that he's failed and
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  Speaker 18: he's missed the opportunity. He's failed to act in the
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  Speaker 18: face of rising anti semitism in our suburbs, on our
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  Speaker 18: streets around Israel, our ally, but also appallingly Jewish Australians.
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  Speaker 18: And I think that's where the problem is. This guy
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  Speaker 18: treated yesterday more as a debating competition against the Greens,
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  Speaker 18: because today had the opportunity to stand up Chris, had
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  Speaker 18: the opportunity for the Labour Party to support a Jewish
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  Speaker 18: MP of exceptional quality in Julian Lisa's proposal for a
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  Speaker 18: judicial inquiry into antisemitism, so we can get what's happening
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  Speaker 18: out there in our communities on the record, made public
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  Speaker 18: and dealt with. And they failed to vote for it.
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  Speaker 4: So I just think there's you know, what you.
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  Speaker 18: Say is one thing, but real men man up and
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  Speaker 18: this guy isn't up to it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's got to be action now.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton put very clearly a proposal that he would
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  Speaker 3: adopt if he were in power, if he were Prime minister,
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  Speaker 3: and he's pointing at the Prime Minister here and of
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  Speaker 3: course the state premiers. And that is when he says
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  Speaker 3: that there are existing laws against vilification, against threats, against
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  Speaker 3: hate speech, there are existing laws about supporting terrorist organizations
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 4: So why aren't.
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  Speaker 3: The political leaders talking to their police commissioners and demanding
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  Speaker 3: that they enforced the law instead of giving the opposite message?
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  Speaker 4: Really, and that is oh, I'll just let everybody have
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  Speaker 4: their say.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, Chris. I think there's been a huge shift
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  Speaker 18: in our police forces across the country over recent times
• 20:41
  Speaker 18: keeping the peace versus upholding the law, and that requires
• 20:46
  Speaker 18: political muscle direction from political leaders to say don't keep
• 20:51
  Speaker 18: the peace, don't arrest the Jewish man at the protest,
• 20:55
  Speaker 18: uphold the law and protect free speech, protect freedom and
• 21:00
  Speaker 18: respect for all religions, which is actually what this country.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Was built on.
• 21:05
  Speaker 18: I think it's been an appalling segment of our history
• 21:09
  Speaker 18: and unfortunately we've got a Prime Minister who fails to
• 21:12
  Speaker 18: stand up. I mean, when you've got forget you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 18: I remember the same sex marriage debate, when we're worried
• 21:17
  Speaker 18: about the wedding cake and you know people not being.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Able to buy it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 18: Right now, got Jewish Australians being refused service, disgrace those
• 21:28
  Speaker 18: that support Palestine. We've got academics having their offices urinated on,
• 21:34
  Speaker 18: and school children being harassed.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: It is a disgrace.
• 21:38
  Speaker 18: This isn't Germany in the nineteen thirties. This is Australia
• 21:42
  Speaker 18: twenty twenty four.
• 21:43
  Speaker 19: Man up.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: You've got to pinch yourself though, to realize this is
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the same country that this two years ago was arresting
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: people for not wearing masks in public. Was arresting people
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: because they're catching up with their friends in the park,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: or arresting them because they're going fishing.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: At the beach.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yet now we don't arrest people for charting where's the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Jews and gas the Jews and f the Jews and
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: celebrating the slaughter of families, innocent families.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I find it just I.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Don't know how to reconcile those two outcomes from our
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: law enforcement.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining us, Bridget Mackenzie. I appreciate it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it greatly, Bridget mackenzie. They're the Nationals leader in
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the Senate. Now want to go to another political issue
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: that's a little bit further down the scale, but I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: know will be incredibly annoying for a lot of Australians
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: because there's nothing more frustrating than when you're at the shops,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: you want to buy stuff and there's a big sign
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: saying card only, no cash, especially if.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: You don't like to use the card.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: A group of federal MPs are now looking to put
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: a stop to this with a plan to find businesses
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars if they refuse to accept notes
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: or coins legal tender.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Bob Catter is one of the MPs behind the bill.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: He joins me from Cans. Thanks for joining me, Bob.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: There must be so many Australians, I think, particularly older
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Australians and particularly Australians in regional communities who for all
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: sorts of reasons prefer to use cash and are running
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: into trouble with it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 19: Right, Chris, can I be really naughty and comment upon
• 23:12
  Speaker 19: what you were saying earlier on the day that the
• 23:15
  Speaker 19: freedom fighters landed at Normandy. It's the same period of
• 23:20
  Speaker 19: time in Australia that the Nazis and anti Semitics have
• 23:25
  Speaker 19: come into our country. Our two bloke's gotten a punch
• 23:28
  Speaker 19: up with the pro gazen mob, two of our state
• 23:31
  Speaker 19: members KP members of Parliament. The police dragged them away.
• 23:35
  Speaker 19: Never took one of the gardens away, not one of them.
• 23:39
  Speaker 19: These are people screaming out gas the Jews, which is illegal,
• 23:43
  Speaker 19: advocating murder, and yet the two blakes that were standing
• 23:46
  Speaker 19: up against the anti Semitism, they were dragged off by
• 23:50
  Speaker 19: the police.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: It's just too It's just wrong. It's wrong, and we've
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: got to have the authority stand up for it us.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Tell us about cash and why people want to keep
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: using it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: Let's get on the let's get onto the cash, right.
• 24:03
  Speaker 19: You know, I am absolutely amazed at how many young
• 24:06
  Speaker 19: people understand this. You know, I would have thought, you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 19: the thoughtless and they got the thing in their ear.
• 24:12
  Speaker 19: But young people understand it. You know, if you can
• 24:18
  Speaker 19: use only that to buy things instead of legal tender.
• 24:24
  Speaker 19: And I make the point legal tender it is illegal
• 24:27
  Speaker 19: for you to refuse to take my money. And we
• 24:30
  Speaker 19: had the confrontation at the refectory, the cafe, cafeteria, the
• 24:35
  Speaker 19: parliament house. Sure if you stay, you can't. It's a
• 24:38
  Speaker 19: legal tender. And the speaker of the house built and
• 24:43
  Speaker 19: Dick came down and he came very very strongly on
• 24:47
  Speaker 19: my side.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: No, you will take cash.
• 24:50
  Speaker 19: But why I mean, if it's the card, the bank
• 24:55
  Speaker 19: controls that card. If the bank says no, you can't
• 24:59
  Speaker 19: use that card to buy a load of bread.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Well then you'll just have to go hungry.
• 25:04
  Speaker 19: Now, you know, if we've got the money in our pocket,
• 25:08
  Speaker 19: by law, they must take that money. So you know
• 25:11
  Speaker 19: I can still buy my load for bread. And also
• 25:14
  Speaker 19: you can keep control of your accounts. You know a
• 25:18
  Speaker 19: lot of people when they take money out in cash,
• 25:20
  Speaker 19: they check how much is still in there. Now that's
• 25:24
  Speaker 19: very important because in one week, Chris I had a
• 25:28
  Speaker 19: person in that had lost seven hundred and thirty dollars
• 25:32
  Speaker 19: out of their account.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: They don't rob the bank. Now they rob your account
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: in the bank.
• 25:37
  Speaker 19: And another person she was a pensioner and she lost
• 25:39
  Speaker 19: two hundred and seventy thousand out of the account. Now
• 25:43
  Speaker 19: the banks make that money out not all the time,
• 25:48
  Speaker 19: not all the time. So just understand this clearly that
• 25:53
  Speaker 19: if you give the banks no cash society, then they control.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: Aspect of your lives.
• 26:01
  Speaker 19: If you fall out with the bank management is a
• 26:04
  Speaker 19: computer these days. You fall out with that computer, something
• 26:08
  Speaker 19: registers that you're a bad guy or not a person
• 26:10
  Speaker 19: that we like in the banks. Maybe you've spuken up
• 26:13
  Speaker 19: against the banks. Then suddenly you can't work the account,
• 26:17
  Speaker 19: and every other bank gets the message from that bank
• 26:20
  Speaker 19: that you can't use the bank account.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: So now what do we do. We have got no.
• 26:24
  Speaker 19: Cash, so it is a freedom battle and up here
• 26:27
  Speaker 19: in North queens then I'm very proud of my fellow
• 26:30
  Speaker 19: North Queenslanders. Of course we've had a number of any
• 26:33
  Speaker 19: cashless rallies. You know we're going to fight it, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 19: I think nothing to do with those any cashless.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I think, as you say, people are concerned about the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: privacy about how they're exposed to banks. People will like
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: to have their cash, know it's their legal tender and
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: be able to use it. So I think you're onto
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: a winner there, Bye bye, appreciate your time, Bob Cattter
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: there up in the north Coystander is looking beautiful, isn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: there as they bask in the sun and the state.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Of origin glory as well.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Now coming up after the breaking to catch up with
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson. As ever, we're going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: talk about the UN ramping up it's climate of armors
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and plus more worrying signs about Joe Biden's fitness for
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the top job. Let's bring in the Daily Telegraph columnists
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson from step Mate Studio's great
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: to catch up with you guys.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: It's been a particularly insane.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Week, so I'm hoping you can re establish some form
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: of order other It was lovely to see Albo's social
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: media there today, Mark showing us some of the loveliest
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: spots in the country, you know, sit down at the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: beach at Newcastle and Anglesea and the Barossa Valley and
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: this is it where he reckons they're going to stick
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: nuclear power plants.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, And people call what I do is propaganda.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I've never seen more propaganda on social media than this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely ridiculous. He's saying, why would you want to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: live like near a nuclear reactor. I wouldn't want to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: live near a nuclear reactor for sure, But you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: wind turbines are blowing up as well. And I think
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: my favorite criticism of his post was that it's taken
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty days for Peter Dun't to come
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: up with his plant. Now he's criticizing it for being
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: fought by thought carefully.
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: That's a ridiculous criticism, makes no sense.
• 28:17
  Speaker 20: Oh yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Some of the responses online, though, were really slaughtered albo.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: They showed people happily living next door to nuclear reactors
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: in Europe. But also, yeah, seven wind turbines in your backyard.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Someone wants him to do that? And look at this one, Tim.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: How did you like to have that in your backyard?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Or perhaps a solar farm. Wouldn't it be lovely living
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: next to the solar farm?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Tim?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And you know, if you're living next door to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a great, big wind turbine, all the all the endangered
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: birds and life into your.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Windows every day. There's another web.
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah, another Westart eagle.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: In the backyard for the puppy and mop up.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I actually would like to live next door to nuclear
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I've got a few picked out nicettal villages in France,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned in you know, everybody wants to shut
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: me up in Australia. Doesn't just send me the fairs.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'll go over there and live for a whole year
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and come back mutated, no arms. You know, I'll prove
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: how dangerous it is. I'll take those risks.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I remember years ago as a young lefty journo doing
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: a tour of Roxby Downs and the bloke giving us
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: a tour from Western Mining was talking about how they're
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: making it a sanctuary around the mine and they're going
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to try and maintain all the species. And I said,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I bet you end up with more species.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: The three legged kangaroo. And it never happened. Of course,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: it never happened.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Now, speaking of my wild alarmism, the United Nations never
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: lets us down. Every now and then when they think
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: people are getting along too well, they have a big
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: event and talk climate to fear and alarmism. And Antonio
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Guteri's the former Socialist Party Prime Minister of Portugal, gets into.
• 29:54
  Speaker 14: It here he is yesterday, Many governments restrictro we a
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: bit advertising for products a our human healths, like tobacle.
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: Some are now doing the same with fossil fuels. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 14: urge every country to ban advertising from fossil fuel companies,
• 30:10
  Speaker 14: and I urge news media and tech companies to stop
• 30:14
  Speaker 14: taking fossil fuel advertising.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Good lord, he wants to ban the advertising of fossil fuels.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Now, mate, If we were into banning bad things, wouldn't
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the UN be at the top of that list.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly when have they won?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: When, if they succeeded, when have they actually introduced material
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: benefit anybody? I mean right down on the ground level
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: with the various you know, the blue helmets in companies
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that their attempt to aid. Look at all the rape convictions.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Look at just how atrocious these people behave in just
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: one on one situations in troubled countries, and then escalate
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that to how they behaved throughout the pandemic, throughout the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: COVID pandemic. The uvent should be rubbed out.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Perhaps that would be the deal mark we could suggest
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to the UN, when you deliver peace in the Middle East,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: then we'll stop advertising the produce from the Middle East,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: all that oil.
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, not bad.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe maybe when he stops, when he starts
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: walking to work this plan, because he catches planes everywhere.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: He's part of the problem as well, you know, rubbers
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: on the road on the Highway to Hell or whatever
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: he called it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: It's uh.
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: I mean, you know, creative agencies for working for yeah, yeah,
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: the climate Hell. And they're trying to ban all these
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: creative agencies.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: They keep coming up with new new slogans for all
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: this climate alarmism. I think they've got a fantastic creative
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: agency working for them. You know, it was acid ray
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: in the hole in the Ozone lag, but we're boiling oceans.
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: It's it's so clever.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe they just want they just want dominance in this.
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: In this advertising space. I have no idea what's going on.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I reckon.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I blame mad Max for the Highway to Climate Hill.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: It's it's gotta that's gonna be. It's got to be
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: the Miller's.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Fault, that one. It's just laughable.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Let's go in our search for sanity around the world,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: why don't we go to US politics? Donald Trump now
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: suggesting that he becomes president where they're trying to convict him.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: If he becomes president and true Banana Republic style, he
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: might try and prosecute whoever's his predecessor said, well, look,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: it's a terrible, terrible path that they're leading us to,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and it's very possible that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: It's going to have to happen to them.
• 32:24
  Speaker 15: Does that mean the next president does it to them?
• 32:26
  Speaker 19: That's really the question.
• 32:28
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Well, and Tim they're turning America now into nic Argua
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: or Panama.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the sort of thing that perhaps some
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: strategists on the Biden side didn't think about. What if
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: we do something and then the same thing happens to us. Generally,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you want to think about that before a lot of situations.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: What happens if I got up to that big guy
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: at the bar and say he looks like a Nancy,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen to me? You want to always
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: go that next step forward, you know, and see what happens.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And if Trump starts lashing out of these people if
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he's elected, well, fair play.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Well and if Joe Biden wants to know how it feels,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: he could always just ask his son. At the moment,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: he seems to be having a bit of a stripe.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Let's have a look at Joe Biden.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: The fascinating report here that I want to go to
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: was in the Wall Street Journal, and it's quoting inside
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: as being worried about President Joe Biden's capabilities behind closed doors.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: It says when President Biden met with congressional leaders in
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: the West Wing in January to negotiate Ukraine funding deals,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: he spoke so softly at times that some participants struggled
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to hear him. According to five people who were familiar
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: with the meeting, they paused for extended periods, and sometimes
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: he closed his eyes for so long for some in
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: the room wonder whether he tuned out, tuned out. I
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: think they're probably racing over to check for a pulse.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And before I get your thoughts on.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: This, they's just have a look.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: This is the latest. This is in the last twenty
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: four hours. Joe Biden again just seemingly all at sea
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: to know.
• 33:55
  Speaker 19: And you know, I think with the thing about I'm
• 33:58
  Speaker 19: just well, we put this way, I remember when I
• 34:02
  Speaker 19: was vice president.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think of that? Tim?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's a lie. I don't think he does
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: remember when he was vice president. I don't think he
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: remembers a lot of things. It's interesting about The thing
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that's interesting about this piece in the Wall Threat journalis
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: it says that you know, people are concerned about Biden,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you know, behind closed doors. Well, it's not as though
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: we need to be reminded about what he's back behind
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: closed doors. We're seeing him right out in front of
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: those doors making a clown of himself every week. I mean,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: if you look back even a couple of years at
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Biden's speeches, the decline is really really kicking in. And
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: if I can't really see, I mean you keep talking
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: about it, Chris, about him not making it all the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: way to the election. That's becoming a very real thing,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: isn't it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I think Mark, if you ever use him and employees
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: explain cartoons will pretty be it'll be very easy to
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: voice because you'll just have a long pause well looking
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: around and working out what to say. We're just all
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: out of time, guys, thanks so much, joining us again.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Catch you next week, Mark Nicholson and Tim Blair. I
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: need to squeeze in some breaking news because just in
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the last few moments there's been some extraordinary vision has
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: come from Channel nine chairman Peter Costello involved in a
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: physical class with a journalist from the Australian newspaper. The
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: incident has happened late today at Canberra Airport, just as
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: the reporter attempted to question mister Costello. I've had all
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the ongoing crises facing Channel nine following the departure, of course,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: of former news director Darren Wick. It's a lengthy clip,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: but worth watching the entire confrontation.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I'm told, take a.
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: Look, mister Cassello, my name is Leam Mendez from the Australian.
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: Do you support mister Sneezeby as ceo and his handling
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: of the Darren Wick saga? Were you aware of the
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: allegations against mister Wick before he left nine?
• 35:51
  Speaker 19: Thank you?
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: Were you aware of those allegations? Mister Costillo? Why won't
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: you support mister Sneezeby publicly?
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: Goodness?
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Well, you've got to answer the question, is mister Castillo.
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: Don't don't you've just assaulted Don't you've just assaulted me?
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: You've just pushed me. It's all on camera, mister Cassello.
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: Why won't you support mister Sneves be public? Mister Cassello,
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: you can't, you can't do that that's all captured on camera.
• 36:32
  Speaker 11: Is your share of.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Pract to concern? It's very might That was quite violent
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: behavior of mister.
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: Do you have the fourth fo board of your board?
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: Journalists who worked for nine approach people in this manner
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: every day and you attacked me. Corsent the serious questions,
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: mister Cassello, is your share price of concern to you?
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: You can't just push someone like that. It's all on camera,
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: mister Costello, thank you? Is that behavior really appropriate? Twit
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: journalists who's working?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Australians Liam Mendez. There were a series of
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: absolutely pertinent and reasonable questions the Channel nine chairman Peter
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Costello former treasurer of course Channel nine have yet to
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: comment on that incident. As chairman of nine, mister Costello
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: has been heavily involved in dealing with the fallout from
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: the departure of Darren Wick, who's faced numerous allegations of
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: mistreatment of female staff during his time as director of News.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Now that will have.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Many more on this story throughout the evening and it'll
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: be around for a day or two. I would have
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: thought Peter Costelli would have been pretty used to that
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: sort of questioning button whole interviews through airports.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Years of it as treasurer.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: But obviously it looks like things got a little physical
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  Speaker 3: there Today. We'll wait and see what others make of
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: it and whether others have any angles other angles on
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the incident.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Now we better take a break.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: On the other side of that, we're going to talk
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: about social media dumbing down all of us and especially
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the younger generation. Child and adolescent psychologist Claire Row will
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: join me now the problems of social media and smartphones
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: and especially how they impact on our young I'm joined
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  Speaker 3: now by child an adolescent psychologists Clear Row.
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  Speaker 4: Good to talk to you, Claire.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, I wrote about this on the weekend
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: for the Weekend Australian. I've got an enormous response from people.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: So many people worried about this. There's the opportunity costs.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Height has written a book about this that we've
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: talked about before as well.
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  Speaker 4: But tell us about the concerns. You know that there's
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: two sides to it.
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  Speaker 3: Really, it's where the phones keep children away from other
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: activities and also the dangers are lurking in the content
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: on the phones.
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  Speaker 4: Which of those two really worries you most?
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a.
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  Speaker 20: Hard call, Chris. It was a great article you wrote,
• 39:22
  Speaker 20: and I think it really brought together a number of
• 39:25
  Speaker 20: issues there. I think that when people ask me, you know,
• 39:29
  Speaker 20: can you pinpoint a singular cause of deteriorating mental health?
• 39:33
  Speaker 20: I mean that's a hard call as well. But you
• 39:35
  Speaker 20: know what, I think, it's this thing, and it's actually
• 39:38
  Speaker 20: not just social media, as your article pointed out, it's
• 39:41
  Speaker 20: actually the smart phone in general and the hours that
• 39:45
  Speaker 20: people spend on it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: This isn't just kids.
• 39:47
  Speaker 20: I mean, if anyone looks at their phone usage, you
• 39:49
  Speaker 20: know we're talking four or five hours a day. Certainly
• 39:52
  Speaker 20: that teenagers are spending on it that I see twenty
• 39:55
  Speaker 20: hours a week. I mean, if you add that up,
• 39:58
  Speaker 20: what are they not doing that they will doing in
• 40:00
  Speaker 20: previous generations? As you said, for that twenty hours a week.
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: But also what your.
• 40:04
  Speaker 20: Article pointed to, which I've been talking about for a
• 40:07
  Speaker 20: little while, is the actual change that social media has
• 40:11
  Speaker 20: caused in the way that we analyze or lack of
• 40:15
  Speaker 20: analysis about complex issues.
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: And the way it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 20: Does that is that it's purely just too much content
• 40:22
  Speaker 20: for our brain to process.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: And so what.
• 40:25
  Speaker 20: Happens is we ended up with this kind of fragmented
• 40:27
  Speaker 20: attention and essentially a very superficial understanding of complex issues
• 40:34
  Speaker 20: because we're distracted by the next post, the next notification,
• 40:39
  Speaker 20: you know, And I think to social media has its
• 40:41
  Speaker 20: enormous pressure to respond and react quickly in this fast
• 40:45
  Speaker 20: paced world or environment, and so what happens is we
• 40:49
  Speaker 20: form very snap judgments, and we oversimplify things, and we
• 40:54
  Speaker 20: tend to kind of prioritize content that aligns with our views,
• 40:59
  Speaker 20: and we don't, don't you know, We just don't have
• 41:02
  Speaker 20: the bandwith anymore, I think neurologically to think deeply about issues,
• 41:08
  Speaker 20: and so we're losing the art of thinking. And I
• 41:10
  Speaker 20: think that's what your article pointed to is never before
• 41:13
  Speaker 20: in the history, and we're actually perhaps going the other way.
• 41:17
  Speaker 20: And is this a real serious decline of human cognitive
• 41:22
  Speaker 20: analysis and abilities.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great point you make, just our
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: brain's not being able to process so much information.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: We don't have the bandwidth, and.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Especially when so much of the information is so superficial
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: and silly. We can't sort the wheat from the chaff.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I forget where I read it, but another expert talked
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: about it to this being there's so much information coming
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: at us through our smartphones. It's like we're trying to
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: drink from a fire hydrant.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: You know, you just can't. You can't do it. Your
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: head's getting blown away.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: So I mean, obviously the number one solution to this
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: is to try and get people time away from them,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: you know, go for a walk, have a swim, read
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: a book, have dinner with your phone away. You know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I'm lecturing myself, you know, and admonishing myself at the
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: same time.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: We all break these rules.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: But this is what you have to do to get
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: back to long form induction and thinking and consumption of information,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: but also human to human contact rather than through the
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: digital world.
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 20: Absolutely, and that has to be where we talk about
• 42:25
  Speaker 20: children adolescents. That has to be parent led. You know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 20: this is an adult problem. This isn't just a child problem.
• 42:31
  Speaker 20: How many adults there are scrolling away so many of
• 42:34
  Speaker 20: my friends, including myself, So I find it very hard
• 42:36
  Speaker 20: to watch television now without having the phone up in
• 42:39
  Speaker 20: front of me. And that's a serious issue. I was
• 42:42
  Speaker 20: talking to a neuropsychologist about this who said to me, Claire,
• 42:46
  Speaker 20: you know, the good news is that if the amount
• 42:48
  Speaker 20: of content that's bombarded at US was capped and the
• 42:51
  Speaker 20: amount it is today, which is not going to happen.
• 42:54
  Speaker 20: It's increasing. But if it was capped, the good news
• 42:56
  Speaker 20: is our brains would be able to evolve and adjust
• 42:59
  Speaker 20: to it. News is is that we would eventually evolve
• 43:02
  Speaker 20: in nine hundred years time how long it would take
• 43:06
  Speaker 20: for our brain to evolve to get to the amount
• 43:08
  Speaker 20: that we need to process now if it stopped.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Just to square the circle on this, I want to
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: show a story, a newspaper report that kind of demonstrates
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that Elon Musk, apparently through his satellite the data.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Signal, was able to bring the Internet to.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: A very reclusive, very remote Amazonian tribe. But now they've
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: had the internet for less than a year, they're a
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: bit worried about it. One of the chiefs there, seventy
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: three year olds, is when it arrived, everyone was happy,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: he told the New York Times. This, he says, But
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: now things have gotten worse. Young people have gotten lazy
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: because of the Internet. They're learning the ways of.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: The white people.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: There you go, it can be a blessing and it
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: can be a curse. Thanks so much for joining us, clear,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Clairoa their adolescent to psychologist. Now we've
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: got to get to a break on the other side
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: of that catch up and form Minister Alexander Downer in London,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: UK election less than a month away. Now, what do
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: we know about Keir's starmer, the likely new prime minister.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Let's go to the former Foreign.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Minister, Alexander Downer now live from London. Not's to talk
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: about Alexander when it comes to d Day and of
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: course the UK election. But I want to show you
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: what's just happened at Canberra Airport late this afternoon. When
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you're a former colleague, the former Treasurer Peter Costello now
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the chairman of nine who are going through quite.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: A few controversies.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: This is what unfolded when he was buttonholed by a
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: journalist from The Australian.
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: Were you aware of those allegations, mister Corsilo? Why won't
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: you support mister sneezebe publicly?
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: Goodness?
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: Well, you've got to answer your questions. Mister Castilla, you've
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: just assaulted You've just assaulted me.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Alexander Downer, you would have been in that situation many
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: times yourself.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: It doesn't appear to be an ideal way to deal with.
• 45:05
  Speaker 21: It hard to know exactly what's happened, isn't it just
• 45:10
  Speaker 21: from that very limited vision. But it can be trying
• 45:14
  Speaker 21: when journalists harass you. But if you're in a senior position,
• 45:19
  Speaker 21: you've got to put up with people asking you a
• 45:21
  Speaker 21: lot of questions, sometimes quite intimate questions.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Indeed, all right, now we've got to get to UK politics.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: But first up, I wanted to get your thoughts on
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: D Day. We've seen veterans being welcomed in France by
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: the locals. People haven't forgotten, young people haven't forgotten what
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: they owe to the Allies from who began the reclamation
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: of Europe. Really on D Day, it must be big
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: in London. There must be a huge focus on it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Today in London.
• 45:50
  Speaker 21: There is a big focus on it. Of course, it
• 45:53
  Speaker 21: was a huge event and that determined what Europe was
• 45:58
  Speaker 21: to look like beyond D Day because if it hadn't
• 46:02
  Speaker 21: been for the D Day landings, then the Soviet Soviet
• 46:06
  Speaker 21: Army would have spread spread across Europe and you wouldn't
• 46:10
  Speaker 21: have had the freedom that Western Europe had as a
• 46:13
  Speaker 21: result of the D Day invasion. So Europe would have
• 46:16
  Speaker 21: been a very different places if it hadn't been for
• 46:19
  Speaker 21: D Day, and it's worth remembering that historical perspective. Not
• 46:25
  Speaker 21: just a few veterans who are left, of course, not
• 46:27
  Speaker 21: many veterans are left alive today.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very very important observation. It's preserved the
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: freedom and the democracy in Europe, absolutely, certainly in Western Europe. Now,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: speaking of freedom and democracy, the UK election less than
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: a month away. Keir Starmer's odds on to be Prime
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: minister tell us about him?
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Is he a safe pair of hands as a labor leader.
• 46:53
  Speaker 21: I think he's weak, really. I mean he's obviously just
• 46:57
  Speaker 21: following the advice of posters. Has it been minimum of policies.
• 47:02
  Speaker 21: Wants to toughen up the industrial relations system that's always
• 47:06
  Speaker 21: a focus for labor parties.
• 47:08
  Speaker 17: And.
• 47:09
  Speaker 21: Spend a lot of money on green initiatives. But he's
• 47:13
  Speaker 21: being very cautious in what he says. I think he'd
• 47:16
  Speaker 21: be the kind of prime minister that Anthony Ibanezi is. Really,
• 47:21
  Speaker 21: I don't think he'll do anything very exciting. He's not
• 47:24
  Speaker 21: charismatic and the place will just sort of stagger on
• 47:29
  Speaker 21: with low productivity and low economic growth. I don't think
• 47:33
  Speaker 21: he'll do anything exciting.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at a snippet from one of
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: the election debates, and this one focuses on an issue
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: that you're very familiar with, and that is the immigration policies,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: that border protection policies that Rishie Sunak has put in
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: place involving Rwanda.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Here we go.
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: If I'm your Prime Minister, the planes will go to Rwanda.
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: We will have a to trent. So the simple question
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: for casedl is what will you do with people who
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: come here illegally? What will you do with them? Well,
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: very simply, what would you do with them? That's what
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: I'm going to do. Will have it a terrent?
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do?
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: We need to smash the gangs that are running this
• 48:07
  Speaker 13: file trade, making a huge amount of money, putting some
• 48:11
  Speaker 13: of the most vulnerable people in boats across the channel.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, smash the gangs like they've been trying to do
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: for the last two decades. I suppose is immigration a
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: big issue in this election?
• 48:22
  Speaker 21: It is a big issue. I mean the cost of
• 48:24
  Speaker 21: living issues. Although inflation has fallen to well below three
• 48:29
  Speaker 21: percent now, I think in the UK it's running at
• 48:31
  Speaker 21: about two point three percent, so it's pretty low. There's
• 48:34
  Speaker 21: no real unemployment, there's a bit of a labor shortage,
• 48:38
  Speaker 21: but cost of living has been a big issue, to
• 48:42
  Speaker 21: the biggest issue. But immigration is right up there, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 21: particularly illegal immigration, people coming in small inflatable boats across
• 48:52
  Speaker 21: the English channels. So that's why there's this debate between
• 48:56
  Speaker 21: the leaders over the so called Rwanda, which is a
• 49:01
  Speaker 21: photo copy really of what we did sending people to
• 49:05
  Speaker 21: Nuru to create the dis incentive and to destroy the
• 49:10
  Speaker 21: business model of the people's smugglers.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Now, very briefly, though, do you think that under Kyostarma
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: the party would go to the left. He's not presenting
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: a sort of a hard left veneer, but is that
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: the danger that it would end up being a much
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: more left wing government than he would portray you at
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: an election campaign.
• 49:32
  Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a very good question, Chris. I think it
• 49:35
  Speaker 21: would be, for sure, much more left wing. They've after
• 49:40
  Speaker 21: all come from the far left as a political party
• 49:43
  Speaker 21: under Jeremy Corbyn, and Keir Starmer was one of his
• 49:47
  Speaker 21: senior shadow cabinet members. So they've moderated their position very substantially,
• 49:53
  Speaker 21: as I was saying earlier, because electorally the far left
• 49:57
  Speaker 21: position is completely untenable. But on the other hand, once
• 50:02
  Speaker 21: they get into power, and they certainly will do on
• 50:04
  Speaker 21: the fourth of July. Once they get into power, I
• 50:08
  Speaker 21: think they will drift a long way to the left.
• 50:10
  Speaker 21: I think their backbenches in particular, will be substantially left wing.
• 50:15
  Speaker 21: More left wing, I mean, a bit like some of
• 50:17
  Speaker 21: them are, a bit like the Australian Greens. They're out
• 50:20
  Speaker 21: there on the extreme left.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: So I'm kind to end up with.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: That we are at a time. Thanks so much for
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: joining us, Alexander. I appreciate it. Alexander down of there
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Live from London. Didn't mention the state of origin tonight,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: but we showed you something similar.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: I'll see you next week.