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- 0:03Speaker 1: And here we are the third hour already Thursday, here
- 0:06Speaker 1: on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. I am Preston,
- 0:08Speaker 1: he is Jose. It's great to be with you, and
- 0:12Speaker 1: we always appreciate you sharing time with us, whether it's
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- 0:18Speaker 1: our little humble program across the Fruited Plain and around
- 0:22Speaker 1: the world. And yet we have listeners around the world.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I don't know why, but we do, and we're grateful.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I have had a relationship with Liberty Council for a
- 0:33Speaker 1: long time. Matt Staver has become a friend and a
- 0:36Speaker 1: friend of this program, and of course John Stenberger and
- 0:39Speaker 1: I go back many many years when I was a
- 0:43Speaker 1: vocational pastor. I was John's pastor for a period of
- 0:46Speaker 1: time and count him as a dear friend. And joining
- 0:50Speaker 1: us now in our program is Abigail Foreman. She is
- 0:56Speaker 1: a policy analyst with Liberty Council Action and Abigail, welcome
- 0:59Speaker 1: to the morning. How are you. I'm doing well.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I I don't even know how to begin with this topic.
- 1:08Speaker 1: When John shared about this in a meeting here in
- 1:12Speaker 1: Tallahassee back a few months ago, my jaw kind of
- 1:15Speaker 1: swung open. So I'm going to let you kind of
- 1:18Speaker 1: lay the groundwork before we pick up with what's happening
- 1:22Speaker 1: with regard to the government. But abortion in our water,
- 1:25Speaker 1: please please explain.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Yes, and it is jaw dropping. That's a very common reaction,
- 1:32Speaker 2: and it is hard to talk about, you know, just
- 1:34Speaker 2: to warn all those listening, it can be pretty uncomfortable.
- 1:37Speaker 2: But essentially, abortions now primarily occur through a chemical drug protocol.
- 1:43Speaker 2: It's a two pill protocol. And if a pristine and
- 1:45Speaker 2: mis apostle, and this obviously kills a baby, and it
- 1:49Speaker 2: harms women, and it's awful and we need to end it.
- 1:52Speaker 2: But in addition, it also harms our environment. And it
- 1:55Speaker 2: harms our environment in two ways. There's a chemical contamination
- 1:57Speaker 2: and there's biological contamination. The chemical contamination from mythy Prystone
- 2:02Speaker 2: comes through the metabolite of the pill itself. So when
- 2:05Speaker 2: a woman takes the pill myth at Prystone, it forms
- 2:08Speaker 2: three active metabolites in her body. It metabolizes well, then
- 2:11Speaker 2: she excretes it through her urine, through the blood, fetal tissue,
- 2:15Speaker 2: et cetera. All of that that is expelled from her body. Well,
- 2:18Speaker 2: that typically goes into the toilet, it goes through the
- 2:22Speaker 2: pipes into the wastewater systems, and our wastewater treatment systems
- 2:25Speaker 2: are not designed to remove active pharmaceutical contaminants, so then
- 2:30Speaker 2: they go into our rivers, into our waterways, et cetera,
- 2:33Speaker 2: and our drinking water treatment plants then get them to
- 2:36Speaker 2: process for our drinking water. Well, drinking water treatment plants
- 2:38Speaker 2: also do not fully remove pharmaceutical contaminants, and so it's
- 2:43Speaker 2: very very likely that there are active abortion contaminants, these
- 2:47Speaker 2: active contaminants from the pill itself that are in tapwater
- 2:51Speaker 2: in trace amounts. Why this is problematic is because of
- 2:55Speaker 2: how the pill itself works. Mythipriystone works by blocking progesterone,
- 3:00Speaker 2: which is a vital fertility hormone. Men need it, women
- 3:03Speaker 2: need it, and in pregnancy, women need it to help
- 3:07Speaker 2: baby develop. When you block progesterone, you're cutting off nutrients
- 3:11Speaker 2: to the baby, effectively starving the baby. So if we
- 3:14Speaker 2: are as Americans consuming trace amounts of something designed to
- 3:18Speaker 2: inhibit fertility, this is a mass problem and it's something
- 3:21Speaker 2: the government absolutely needs to dive into and research.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Now.
- 3:25Speaker 2: In addition to the chemical contamination, we have biological contamination.
- 3:29Speaker 2: And this is where it gets really really difficult to
- 3:31Speaker 2: listen to. Obviously, when you kill a baby, the baby
- 3:35Speaker 2: is expelled from the uterus, but in addition, you have
- 3:38Speaker 2: the placento, the umbilical court, all of the blood, et cetera,
- 3:40Speaker 2: that goes into the toilet. Well that also goes to
- 3:43Speaker 2: our wastewater treatment plants. And again, our wastewater treatment systems
- 3:46Speaker 2: we're not meant to process human remains and medical waste.
- 3:50Speaker 2: We have morgs and medical waste facilities for that purpose,
- 3:53Speaker 2: and yet we are treating our wastewater facilities as mass graves.
- 3:59Speaker 1: How have has this been documented?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Well, it's documented in several different ways. First, probably and
- 4:09Speaker 2: this is the you know, just the sort of the
- 4:11Speaker 2: obvious way that we know this is happening is that
- 4:13Speaker 2: when women go to get the pill, abortion providers typically
- 4:17Speaker 2: instruct them to flush the remains. You can look at
- 4:20Speaker 2: multiple websites on this. You know that there's a eight
- 4:24Speaker 2: Access is one of the websites that you can buy
- 4:27Speaker 2: abortion pills online, and they ship them ilegally into pro
- 4:31Speaker 2: life states and they actually stay on there. And this
- 4:33Speaker 2: is really disturbing to me. But they say you know,
- 4:35Speaker 2: if you see the embryo at eight to nine weeks,
- 4:37Speaker 2: this can be distressing, no kidding, it is not just distressing,
- 4:41Speaker 2: it's traumatizing to these women. But then they say it's
- 4:44Speaker 2: best to just flush it. And so we know that
- 4:47Speaker 2: women are intend to flush this. And then you have
- 4:49Speaker 2: reports of fetuses, babies that are found in pipes, that
- 4:53Speaker 2: are clogging pipes that are found in wastewater treatment plans.
- 4:57Speaker 2: These go back reports I've found go back to twenty ten.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Pilled protocol was approved in two thousand. But then when
- 5:03Speaker 2: you look at the chemical contamination, we see that documented
- 5:07Speaker 2: internationally in different areas. Though in China and in Switzerland
- 5:10Speaker 2: they've found mythic cristone in their rivers and wastewater effluence,
- 5:15Speaker 2: which is just a refluence, just a fancy way of
- 5:17Speaker 2: saying the water that is discharged from the wastewater treatment plants.
- 5:21Speaker 2: And then there are also there's also a coming study
- 5:25Speaker 2: from another organization that has done a peer reviewed research
- 5:29Speaker 2: study on it mythic crystone in our water in the US,
- 5:33Speaker 2: and that's not yet published, but we believe that that
- 5:37Speaker 2: will but also just basically prove what we're saying.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And we've talked for well, I've been doing this program
- 5:48Speaker 1: for better than twenty four years now, and we've talked
- 5:52Speaker 1: about the disposable nature of culture. You know, for a
- 5:55Speaker 1: few hundred bucks, you can dispose of a marriage. For less,
- 5:59Speaker 1: you can dispose of a human life living inside the
- 6:02Speaker 1: womb of a mom. And I guess, Abigail, we're at
- 6:07Speaker 1: a stage right now with this type of abortion that
- 6:12Speaker 1: we're just kind of feeding into that mentality we've developed
- 6:15Speaker 1: as a culture of oh, well, let's just take a
- 6:17Speaker 1: pill and make it go away.
- 6:19Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. And what's even more tragic is we've
- 6:23Speaker 2: made it incredibly easy with mail order abortion. It's essentially
- 6:26Speaker 2: like Amazon. You can just go online, get the pills,
- 6:30Speaker 2: have them sent to you, and you know, without the
- 6:34Speaker 2: medical intervention there, without going in person to see an
- 6:37Speaker 2: abortion provider to verify your gestation and things of that nature,
- 6:40Speaker 2: it just becomes incredibly more dangerous for the woman. And
- 6:43Speaker 2: then you also have the issue of abusive men, human traffickers,
- 6:47Speaker 2: et cetera having easy access to these pills. So it's
- 6:50Speaker 2: just a pretty awful health crisis on multiple levels. But
- 6:54Speaker 2: now it's also an environmental crisis.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hannaway has authored a note signed
- 7:02Speaker 1: on by thirteen other attorneys general, including Florida's own James Uthmeyer.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Tell us about her note and what is being proposed.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Absolutely so, she and these other attorneys general have joined
- 7:17Speaker 2: a growing coalition of folks that are trying to get
- 7:21Speaker 2: the Environmental Protection Agency to add Mythic christone and its
- 7:25Speaker 2: metabolite to their contaminant candidate list. Now, the Safe Drinking
- 7:30Speaker 2: Water Act requires the EPA to develop this list, this
- 7:33Speaker 2: contaminant candidate list every five years, and they opened a
- 7:36Speaker 2: public comment period for the draft version. So they opened
- 7:39Speaker 2: their draft version. They had an open public comment period
- 7:41Speaker 2: that's closed now, but they were so listening comments to say,
- 7:45Speaker 2: you know, have we missed any contaminants? Well, both Liberty
- 7:49Speaker 2: Council Action, thousands of others, and now these attorneys general
- 7:53Speaker 2: have written to the EPA and said, yes, you have
- 7:56Speaker 2: missed Mythic christone. You need to add Mytha christone to
- 7:59Speaker 2: the contaminate candidate because it is a growing concern. She
- 8:03Speaker 2: points out, just like I mentioned earlier, how michipriystone forms
- 8:06Speaker 2: active metabolites that remain in our water after wastewater treatment,
- 8:10Speaker 2: after drinking water treatment. She also points out that this
- 8:14Speaker 2: is an end of crin disrupting chemical. We talk about
- 8:17Speaker 2: this in our special report on abortion in Our Water,
- 8:21Speaker 2: which you can find at our website abortion in Ourwater
- 8:23Speaker 2: dot org. But essentially, an end of crim disrupting chemical
- 8:26Speaker 2: is any chemical that disrupts the way your body's hormones
- 8:30Speaker 2: are meant to work, so it mimics or interferes or
- 8:33Speaker 2: blocks with blocks your hormones, and misudprystone is one of them. Well,
- 8:38Speaker 2: endocrins disrupting chemicals have come under an increasing amount of
- 8:41Speaker 2: scrutiny recently. We know that they can cause harm in
- 8:44Speaker 2: trace amounts over time. And in fact, another set of
- 8:48Speaker 2: endocrind disrupting chemicals, p fasts or forever chemicals, have really
- 8:53Speaker 2: come under scrutiny to the extent that the EPA has
- 8:55Speaker 2: now decided to regulate them. They're looking at regulating at
- 8:58Speaker 2: least two of them in hearts per trillion. And so
- 9:01Speaker 2: what the attorney generals are saying, and what we are
- 9:04Speaker 2: saying is well, that's great, but hey, do you recognize
- 9:08Speaker 2: that maybe pristine has the exact same capacity to be harmful,
- 9:11Speaker 2: to disrupt our body's hormones and therefore, will you please
- 9:16Speaker 2: regulate it, put it on this list, start to research it,
- 9:18Speaker 2: do the research you should have done back in two
- 9:20Speaker 2: thousand when you originally approved the pills, and make sure
- 9:25Speaker 2: that you're protecting Americans.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Abigail stand by. I want to pick up right there.
- 9:29Speaker 1: We're going to expand the discussion just a little bit.
- 9:31Speaker 1: One segment to go. Abigail Foreman with Liberty Council Action,
- 9:36Speaker 1: my guest here in the Morning Show with President Scott.
- 9:38Speaker 1: The website Abortion in Our Water dot org. Abigail, is
- 9:44Speaker 1: there is there any verification? I mean, Florida, we've got
- 9:47Speaker 1: you know, we got laws here on on abortion and limits.
- 9:51Speaker 1: And while I think we would all love to see
- 9:54Speaker 1: it not happen at all, but across the country generally speaking,
- 9:58Speaker 1: how do you how do you know where the pregnancy
- 10:00Speaker 1: is before someone takes one of these pills.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Well, that's just it. We don't really know how far
- 10:05Speaker 2: along the woman is when she is taking these pills
- 10:08Speaker 2: because there's no in person requirement. So back in two
- 10:12Speaker 2: thousand when they approved the jug, you had to go
- 10:14Speaker 2: to the doctor three times when you did the abortion
- 10:17Speaker 2: pill protocol. Now you don't have to go to the
- 10:20Speaker 2: doctor at all. They removed two of those business in
- 10:22Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and they removed the last one under Biden
- 10:24Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Formalize that in twenty twenty three,
- 10:27Speaker 2: and now a woman can get the pills just by
- 10:31Speaker 2: estimating her her gestations. Well, the tragic reality is a
- 10:34Speaker 2: lot of women don't know how far along they are,
- 10:37Speaker 2: and so they're getting these pills when they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
- 10:39Speaker 2: fifteen weeks and upwards. There was a case in England
- 10:42Speaker 2: where women got these pills. She was thirty two to
- 10:44Speaker 2: thirty four weeks pregnant, and she's traumatized. You know she is, actually,
- 10:48Speaker 2: she said, haunted by the death of her baby. And
- 10:52Speaker 2: that's very likely happening here because we're not requiring women
- 10:55Speaker 2: to go into a clinic to get their pregnancy verified. Well,
- 10:59Speaker 2: then what do you have have a woman at home,
- 11:01Speaker 2: alone in her bathroom basically giving birth to her preborn,
- 11:07Speaker 2: her preborn child who's most likely already passed away because
- 11:11Speaker 2: of Missy Priston's starving the baby, and then what does
- 11:14Speaker 2: she do with it? She doesn't know, she was told
- 11:16Speaker 2: by the abortion provider, just flushed the baby. And so
- 11:18Speaker 2: you have babies that are being flushed into the toilets. Now,
- 11:22Speaker 2: at ten weeks a baby is one inch. At twelve
- 11:25Speaker 2: weeks a baby is two inches, and it goes up
- 11:27Speaker 2: from there. Well, babies don't break down like toilet waste,
- 11:31Speaker 2: like toilet paper, et cetera. They're able to clog toilets
- 11:35Speaker 2: and they have. You know, there's a case in Houston,
- 11:36Speaker 2: Texas where there was an apartment complex that had its
- 11:40Speaker 2: sewers back up. You know, you're getting all these backups
- 11:44Speaker 2: into people's bathrooms who they found a fetus, a baby
- 11:47Speaker 2: in the pipe system. And this is, as I say,
- 11:52Speaker 2: it's scandalous. In any other context, if you were in
- 11:57Speaker 2: a hospital and a hospital said over flushing all the
- 12:00Speaker 2: medical waste, and you know, we're just going to flush
- 12:03Speaker 2: it down the toilet, there would be an absolute outcry.
- 12:06Speaker 2: And in fact, even in the abortion industry, in an
- 12:08Speaker 2: abortion clinic, if you have an abortion surgically, you are
- 12:12Speaker 2: required to dispose of the of everything properly. There are
- 12:16Speaker 2: medical waste laws in every single state medical waste regulations
- 12:20Speaker 2: to require proper dispose. You don't flush medical waste plus bnaes,
- 12:23Speaker 2: et cetera. You do not flush it down the toilet.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Yet the abortion industry has been given a free path
- 12:28Speaker 2: to do this because you know, in my view, they're
- 12:30Speaker 2: just impervious to scrutiny. They're like the untouchable entity, even
- 12:33Speaker 2: if they're harming the environment, harming women, et cetera. Politically,
- 12:37Speaker 2: it's such a charged issue. We can't seem to break
- 12:40Speaker 2: through or really hoping we can break through on this
- 12:42Speaker 2: because really nobody should want to drink water contaminated with abortions.
- 12:47Speaker 1: So, if I understand correctly, part of this is in
- 12:51Speaker 1: the EPA perview and the overview of our water supply.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Is there an overlap with the FDA.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, they both have purview. So the SEA should
- 13:06Speaker 2: have done an environmental assessment. The FDA has to do
- 13:08Speaker 2: an environmental assessment every time they approved a drug. Well,
- 13:11Speaker 2: when they did their environmental assessment, they actually on this
- 13:15Speaker 2: abortion pill protocol. They didn't really do it themselves. They
- 13:19Speaker 2: just accepted the word of the Population Council. The Population
- 13:22Speaker 2: Council is a biased entity who promotes abortion, has ties
- 13:27Speaker 2: to the eugenics movement, et cetera. They basically said, yeah,
- 13:31Speaker 2: we're fine, it's not going to pollute the environment, and
- 13:33Speaker 2: the FDA said that sounds good and didn't actually dive
- 13:37Speaker 2: any deeper. We detail this pretty extensively in our special
- 13:40Speaker 2: report how the fd violated the Clean Water Act and
- 13:42Speaker 2: the National Environmental Policy Act when they approved the pills
- 13:45Speaker 2: by failing to do a comprehensive environmental assessment. And then
- 13:49Speaker 2: the Environmental Protection Agency has purview over clean water, so
- 13:53Speaker 2: they can require, for example, mister Kristen to be put
- 13:55Speaker 2: on their contaminant candidate list. And really the EPA and
- 13:58Speaker 2: the FDA should be working together on this to a
- 14:02Speaker 2: understand what's happening to our water, but be implement proper protocols.
- 14:06Speaker 2: So you know, Representative Mary Miller introduced a bill of
- 14:08Speaker 2: the Clean Water for All Life that that would require
- 14:13Speaker 2: the abortion providers to give a catch kit to women
- 14:16Speaker 2: so that they collect the human remains and the medical
- 14:20Speaker 2: waste associated with the abortion so they don't flush it
- 14:22Speaker 2: down the toilet. Ideally, you know, like you say, we
- 14:25Speaker 2: shouldn't be murdering babies, we just should just stop. But
- 14:28Speaker 2: if we are going to I would argue we need
- 14:31Speaker 2: to cremate and vary. Then we need to dignify this
- 14:33Speaker 2: human life, not flush it.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Down the toilet. Lastly, is is the Is this something
- 14:40Speaker 1: that should be reviewed by the Department of Justice or
- 14:43Speaker 1: should this be elevated even beyond to congressional action.
- 14:49Speaker 2: I would say both. So the Department of Justice actually
- 14:51Speaker 2: should be enforcing the Contumstock de Act, which is a
- 14:53Speaker 2: related issue. The Comumpstack Act basically prohibits the mailing of
- 14:58Speaker 2: a bord efficient drugs. If we enforced Comstock, we would
- 15:01Speaker 2: basically put an end to about a third of abortions overnight,
- 15:05Speaker 2: which would be phenomenal. So that the Department of Justice, yes,
- 15:08Speaker 2: please please enforce the Comstock Act. And then you know, Congress, yes,
- 15:12Speaker 2: we want Congress act. We want Congress to pass the
- 15:15Speaker 2: Clean Water for All Life Acts and work with the FDA,
- 15:18Speaker 2: work with the administration to enforce the in person dispensing requirement.
- 15:24Speaker 2: So the FDA, when they remove the in person dispensing requirement,
- 15:27Speaker 2: most likely we would argue they violated the loss because
- 15:30Speaker 2: it was an arbitrary decision. They actually said there was
- 15:34Speaker 2: not the literature to support that decision. They know it's unsafe.
- 15:37Speaker 2: They know it's unsafe to not require women to go
- 15:40Speaker 2: into a clinic to be you know, checked out by
- 15:43Speaker 2: a medical provider before they get the abortion pill, and
- 15:46Speaker 2: so it's all all of the above. We should all
- 15:49Speaker 2: be doing what we can. And then, you know, to
- 15:51Speaker 2: the folks listening, I'd say my first and foremost action
- 15:54Speaker 2: would be prey. But then also go to abortion in
- 15:57Speaker 2: Ourwater dot org and get educated, start talking talking about
- 16:00Speaker 2: this to folks. And when you talk about why your
- 16:02Speaker 2: pro life, just add a couple of words to your
- 16:05Speaker 2: elevator pitch. So I'm pro life because abortion kills babies,
- 16:09Speaker 2: harms women, and contaminates our water.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Abigail, thanks for the time. I'm sure we'll visit again.
- 16:15Speaker 1: I appreciate it very much.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Abigail Foreman, Liberty counsel, Action policy analyst. She's also author
- 16:23Speaker 1: of the report Abortion in Our Water. You can go
- 16:25Speaker 1: to the website and learn more Abortioninourwater dot org