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135 A Night of Terror! He Thought He Got It But it Was Only The Beginning · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the shield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just put pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the
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  Speaker 2: ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 1: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 1: fell through the planet. He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking,
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  Speaker 1: like there was a complete like just like blankness to
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  Speaker 1: his face, like there was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 1: I rubbed my of my truck.
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  Speaker 2: I jump out the truck talk and that's what I
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  Speaker 2: knew it was. It was this gold mare.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low general crowd.
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  Speaker 2: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 2: And he takes that one more step.
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  Speaker 1: And he just it was like he just stepped behind
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  Speaker 1: an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the very one. This is episode one
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  Speaker 2: and thirty five with mister Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown is
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  Speaker 2: a retired law enforcement officer in the great state of Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: a cryptid nowhere as it calls himself. He's been around
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  Speaker 2: cryptied to his whole life and whether in his private
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  Speaker 2: life or on duty, He's had many stories. He's come
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  Speaker 2: on a few times now and I had them all
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  Speaker 2: back again, Bruce, thank you so much for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: He outlines the story of where a farmer friend that
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  Speaker 2: has called him says that he shot one of these
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  Speaker 2: dolphin creatures and now it's outside of his house. Bruce said,
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  Speaker 2: right now, he's standing outside the house, and gentlemen said yes,
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  Speaker 2: and Bruce said, I'm on my way and I'll let
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  Speaker 2: Bruce tell the rest of the story. Please go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and check that out if you're new to the channel,
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  Speaker 2: if you're new to the MP three side of the
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  Speaker 2: I Jubiter. First of all, thank you also very much
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  Speaker 2: for liking subscribing over there on YouTube. I've had great
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  Speaker 2: success here recently and I really appreciate you. Guys. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the show. If you want to reach out to me,
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  Speaker 2: please do me a favor and contact me through my email,
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  Speaker 2: THEIA Jupiter Podcast at gmail dot com. THEI of Jupiter
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  Speaker 2: Podcast at gmail dot com. If you're listening to me
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  Speaker 2: over here on the MP three side, thank you once again.
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  Speaker 2: That would be greatly appreciate it. And I hope you
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed this episode with mister Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, how's everybody doing?
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  Speaker 2: Doing good? Or how's the how's the how's the weather
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  Speaker 2: there in Tennessee?
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  Speaker 1: Buddy?
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  Speaker 2: That's hotter than the Dickens down here. Man's in the
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  Speaker 2: nineties pretty much all year around, except for maybe three
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  Speaker 2: months in the winter time. But other than that, it's hot.
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  Speaker 2: It's hot out here, man. So you've been very busy. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you doing the rounds you were growing
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  Speaker 2: on the Crypti podcast and many many others. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: I've been keeping I've been following it. It's been great
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  Speaker 2: that you've gett been getting out there. I think you
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  Speaker 2: started with me, is that right? I can't remember? Is
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  Speaker 2: that true?
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  Speaker 1: Yep? You're my first show what I ever did?
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's that's that's incredible, that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: I've been on so many since I can't count.
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  Speaker 2: That's why. That's why I wanted to do it, so
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: If I I've done three big kinds of shows, about
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  Speaker 1: five Cryptis Honors shows. I'm I'm a I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: board with a Crypti Wrangler every Friday night.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I know them fellas up guys. I know that
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  Speaker 2: they're wonderful, wonderful. That's a good, a good, a good
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  Speaker 2: crew out of there California, and I believe, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky or Oklahoma. I came remembers that where the gentleman's from. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: the other gentleman Indiana, Indiana. You're right, I can't. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I've had both of them, gentlemen. And what's up, Daniel,
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  Speaker 2: gob and check out the Cryptid Wrangler podcast. You can
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  Speaker 2: go check that out. Was that every Friday, Bruce.
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  Speaker 1: Every Friday at five o'clock at five o'clock eastern Pacific time,
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  Speaker 1: that would be uh, seven o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: U Central Central and eight eastern. All right?
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  Speaker 1: Cool?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go check them out, go to get her like
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  Speaker 2: and subscribe. And if Bruce is over there, and of
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  Speaker 2: course Daniel and uh, I can't think of the other
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  Speaker 2: guy's name. Larry, Larry, Larry Yeah, Larry in the trail.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. It's a double lly got me.
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  Speaker 1: We also got an another one added, Scott Brush is
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  Speaker 1: on Lert with us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have to meet him. I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: talk to him and have him reach out. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to reach out to Scott. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got Urban Bigfoot, Urban Bigfoot. Yeah, the group
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  Speaker 1: Urban big Butt. Scott Rush. How do you spell that brush?
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  Speaker 2: Rush?
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  Speaker 1: Are U s h No, it's a b r U
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  Speaker 1: s C rush brush.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott Brush c O T T p r U
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  Speaker 2: s A try. I'll getting up there and get a
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  Speaker 2: shout out first for the people who are unacquainted with you,
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  Speaker 2: which can still possibly happen. People find you all the time,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and could you tell them you know a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about yourself and why you're here today.
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  Speaker 1: A former law enforcement officer started out as a patrolman.
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  Speaker 1: Uh left patrolman into a big guest investigator and patrolman,
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  Speaker 1: and then went to the Sheriff's department as a deputy
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  Speaker 1: shire a sergeant sergeant of patrols, and then she of narcotics,
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  Speaker 1: and then I also belonged to Homeland Security at the
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  Speaker 1: same time. So wow, that's about That's about it for
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  Speaker 1: my career. I got I got into a cryptis when
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  Speaker 1: I was eight years old, so that was a fifty
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  Speaker 1: six years ago. Wow. So I had the opportunity as
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  Speaker 1: serving as a lawman to deal with these things too.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, you know, we had crashes and stuff in
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  Speaker 1: bob them, people hitting them, people see them in their backyards,
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  Speaker 1: just stuff like that. So that gave me an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to keep looking into the unknowns of all this. And
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  Speaker 1: then as a very young man, I learned that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm no longer a researcher and an experiencer. I'm an
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  Speaker 1: ower that's not an expert, but that's an over because
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  Speaker 1: I've seen enough now to know. So I call myself
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  Speaker 1: an oer. And so I've had multiple encounters. Some people
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  Speaker 1: say I'm marked. I don't believe I'm marked. I believe
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  Speaker 1: they know either way you carry yourself and how you act,
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  Speaker 1: if you've been encountered to me these things anywhere. They
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  Speaker 1: just pick up on that. I've had multiple dog man experiences,
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  Speaker 1: multiple big put experiences. And that is where I come
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  Speaker 1: up with a term NOWERD Because researcher and experiencer I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an oer So I try to intermingle with these
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  Speaker 1: things quite a bit, learn their habits, what their likes
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  Speaker 1: and dislikes are, if they're dangerous, if they're not dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: They're just like us. No two are the same, different faces,
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  Speaker 1: different attitudes. I've only got into one main one and
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  Speaker 1: bitch you six years and I told about it on
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  Speaker 1: one of your podcasts where he chased.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it's oh, maybe thirty episodes back, guys, go
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  Speaker 2: check it out. It's one of those. It's actually in
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  Speaker 2: my intro may n B three. I have your voice
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  Speaker 2: in there telling the story because you had such a
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  Speaker 2: great radio voice.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And the way you said it, it was like it
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  Speaker 2: puts Mikes the Harris on the back of my next
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  Speaker 2: stand up. So one thing, I appreciate you for coming
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  Speaker 2: on to tell me that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then uh, I went back and started pretty heavy.
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  Speaker 1: I try to go as often as I possibly can. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times the weather or uh, life gets
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  Speaker 1: on the way and I don't get to to one.
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  Speaker 1: And I retired, I pretty much spent every day in
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  Speaker 1: the woods, and then of course you got to come
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  Speaker 1: out sooner or later mow the yard and do the
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  Speaker 1: wife of this thing. You know, they got to see
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  Speaker 1: them from town. They got to see you every now
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  Speaker 1: and then. So but I went to this spring uh
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  Speaker 1: mushroom hunting whorts. The dry land fish is what we
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  Speaker 1: call him here in the Appalachia and Tennessee. It's a
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  Speaker 1: moral a mushroom.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: And on that one, I'd had permission from a farmer
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  Speaker 1: and he had quite a few acres and it's always
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  Speaker 1: been a good spot for me to get mushroom. So
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  Speaker 1: every time i'd go in there, i'd always bring him
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  Speaker 1: out a bag full too, And I'd stop by his house,
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  Speaker 1: uh the evening before and let him know I was
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  Speaker 1: going to be back there, and uh, his wife would
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  Speaker 1: give me an onion sack to put some in, and
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  Speaker 1: I already had me a sack, so I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I feel this thing up for them. Well, I drove
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  Speaker 1: out to them to behave build out a ridge and
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  Speaker 1: I went over the mountain, found me a good flat spot,
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  Speaker 1: and I took had my concrete brake in the truck,
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  Speaker 1: and I just took my concrete rake and we breaked
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  Speaker 1: all the leaves back around and stuff. Where I set
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  Speaker 1: my tin up and the little raked the leaves back
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  Speaker 1: in front of my tent where I was going to
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  Speaker 1: make my bar pit. So I got everything set up
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  Speaker 1: in My last thing to do that evening was to
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  Speaker 1: because I stayed all night, was to make my bar pit.
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  Speaker 1: So when I walked around the hill picking up big
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  Speaker 1: enough rocks to come back to make the bar pit,
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  Speaker 1: I started finding some dry land fish. So I took
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  Speaker 1: that onion sack. But she gave me the farmer's wife
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  Speaker 1: and I put I probably half or two thirds full.
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  Speaker 1: I finished my far pit just that dark, and uh work.
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  Speaker 1: You got to keep in mind there's no leaves around
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  Speaker 1: my tin or nothing, because before I set my tin up,
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  Speaker 1: I raked all my leaves and everything back several feet
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  Speaker 1: back away and around my far pit where no sparks
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  Speaker 1: from the where I wouldn't set the woods on far
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  Speaker 1: more or less. And that night, when I was laying sleeping,
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  Speaker 1: I heard something walking heavy footprints around my going around
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  Speaker 1: my tent. So this wasn't a well known area for sasquatch.
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  Speaker 1: And I unzipped the flap on my tent and then
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  Speaker 1: I have a screen on it. So when I zipped
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  Speaker 1: the screen and reaching them, zipped the main flap and
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  Speaker 1: pushed it back and then zipped the screen back to
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  Speaker 1: where where I was laying there. I could look straight
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  Speaker 1: out at my farpit my par was going, and while
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  Speaker 1: I was laying there, I kept hearing something going around
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  Speaker 1: my tent, and so I just got real still. Instead
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  Speaker 1: of talking like I normally do when I'm by myself,
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  Speaker 1: I just talk out, Wow, I just got real steal.
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  Speaker 1: And it come between that screen on the front of
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  Speaker 1: my tent in the far and I was able to
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  Speaker 1: get a good outline that it was more likely a
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  Speaker 1: big foot. Still wasn't one hundred percent for sure, because
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  Speaker 1: you know that far was hitting him from the back.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't see his face and stuff. So I got
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  Speaker 1: up the next morning and well, come out the tent.
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  Speaker 1: And I always keep a throw rug, just a little
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  Speaker 1: video rug you pick up a dollar story anywhere on
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  Speaker 1: the right outside of my tent, so I don't track
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  Speaker 1: stuff in and out of my tent. I can leave
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  Speaker 1: my shoes out there. Well, I unzipped that screen and
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  Speaker 1: put my feet out there and put my boots on.
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  Speaker 1: When I stood up and stepped off that there was
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  Speaker 1: big probably eighteen inch tracks all the way around tent.
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  Speaker 1: These were big foot tracks. So I went ahead and
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  Speaker 1: picked me a little breakfast and stuff, and then took
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  Speaker 1: off to the right of the tent over a little
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  Speaker 1: There's a little point there, and I knew they I
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  Speaker 1: would do pretty good there. I was hoping I would,
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  Speaker 1: and so when I did, I got over there. But
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  Speaker 1: if I turned around, I could see my tent. So
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  Speaker 1: I got over collecting these mushrooms. And then I got
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit and I had started down just a
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  Speaker 1: few feet down the hill, and my back still to
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  Speaker 1: the tent, and I heard something and for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: I just turned around looked at my tent. My tent
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  Speaker 1: was destroyed. So I'm like, I mean, I'm withinside of
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  Speaker 1: the tenth the whole time, but I just have my
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  Speaker 1: back turned to it. Now I look back around, it's destroyed,
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  Speaker 1: just down on the ground. So I stopped what I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing and I go check on it. Now it's ripped
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  Speaker 1: the shreds now, all my tent poles and stuff. They're
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  Speaker 1: in good shape, they're not hurt. So I get my
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  Speaker 1: bag out and I'm picking these shredded pieces of tent up,
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  Speaker 1: putting it in the bag, and then I get my
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  Speaker 1: tent poles and I go ahead and haul everything to
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  Speaker 1: the truck, because it's just right above me. I mean
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  Speaker 1: when you stand up, go just a few feet up
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  Speaker 1: on the hill past the tent, you can see the truck.
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  Speaker 1: So I just took it up there and put it
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  Speaker 1: in the truck. And then when I come back and
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  Speaker 1: was inventorying my stuff, my percolator camping coffee pot was smashed,
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  Speaker 1: and that bag of dry land fish that I'd got
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  Speaker 1: to evening before for a farmer in that onion sack,
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  Speaker 1: it was gone. So that's what they was after. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think anything about it. I should have hung it
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  Speaker 1: outside of high on a limb and they would have
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  Speaker 1: got it without turning my stuff up. But that's the.
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  Speaker 2: Meeting that you just you were just you were just
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  Speaker 2: there and slightly down the hill with an eyeshot of
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  Speaker 2: the tent. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just turned around, Yeah, yeah, you just turned around
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  Speaker 1: and the tents just right up there. I mean you
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  Speaker 1: can see it if you just turned around. And when
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  Speaker 1: I heard that noise and turned around, I mean my
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  Speaker 1: tent was down. It was, of course, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: it was in that bat of shape till I walked
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  Speaker 1: up there and seen it right, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: ripped like you would rip a piece of paper. All
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  Speaker 1: the all the tent material was ripped, all the pieces.
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  Speaker 1: But the only thing was gone was that bag of mushrooms.
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  Speaker 1: Everything else, my food, everything was still there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: other than my coffee pot was mashed. You know.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me wonder, like why they don't if they
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  Speaker 2: like them so much, why they wouldn't collect them themselves.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it was just easy, you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: thinking that the convenience, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know, but there they're territorial, okay there if you
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  Speaker 1: get in there picking that stuff and it's theirs, and
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  Speaker 1: they're there too. Uh, you know, mushrooms pop up overnight,
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  Speaker 1: you know, stay up a few days, and you know
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  Speaker 1: the animals eat them and stuff. So yeah, I went
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  Speaker 1: down in there and there was already evidently some there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I walked around my tent that night, so
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  Speaker 1: that's what they were there for. It was those mushrooms.
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  Speaker 1: And but that that was a good experience. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't scare me. I just wished I hadn't tore
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  Speaker 1: my tent up, you know, because when the one walked
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  Speaker 1: in front of the tent and the fire pit that night,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't scare me. I had a pretty good idea
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  Speaker 1: of what it was.
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  Speaker 2: So I just don't know why. I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: you're able to do that because I've never experienced one.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I guess if you're walking with me and
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  Speaker 2: we run across a python in the woods which I
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  Speaker 2: have run across before, you know, like a seven foot python,
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  Speaker 2: you might be like a little bit like hey, and
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like, I ain't gonna bother you, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's kind of like your whole
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  Speaker 2: life kind of dealing with this. I thought, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I ever asked you this like, And we can
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  Speaker 2: get back into the experiences in the second Folks, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think they are? I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 2: asked you that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a really good question. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people don't quite understand. They're looking for an eight. They're
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  Speaker 1: looking for the flat nose, the conical head, all that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they're different, but they're human. Okay. If you take yourself
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  Speaker 1: and just imagine yourself completely covered in three to four
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  Speaker 1: inch hair, that's a sasquatch. The only difference is he's bigger,
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  Speaker 1: he's taller, you know, So.
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  Speaker 2: You think they're like some kind of offshoot or a
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  Speaker 2: different I don't know what your beliefs are, but a
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  Speaker 2: different evolutionary line or something of this nature. And it
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  Speaker 2: just kind of their thing is. They're just in the
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  Speaker 2: woods and we are, you know, in trucks and tents.
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  Speaker 1: Right, there's twenty one species of humans. They could have
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  Speaker 1: been twenty two or twenty three that we didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Home all four ends. Neanderthalsist name a few, yes, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so right, each each one I encounter has just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different vicial structure. It's just like us
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  Speaker 1: when we're walking into a shopping center or anywhere, you'll
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  Speaker 1: see all these different types of people, right, And that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're dealing with with Bigfoot. It's not there's low
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  Speaker 1: two the same the same as it's.
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  Speaker 2: True you always. I mean you might hear like, for example,
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  Speaker 2: you might say, uh, people from Holland or taller or
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  Speaker 2: you know, people from Asia. I have a certain facial
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  Speaker 2: structure that we're custom with. But even within there there's
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  Speaker 2: slight differences. Now you hear like the conical shaped head ones,
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  Speaker 2: but even those within those types of the wood booger
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: with the square teeth, uh, with the biggest smile. They're
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: all even within those groups, there's differences. I understand what
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you're saying. That's interesting. Like I said, I've never got
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the chance to ask you that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the blog as I call them, the blonde haired
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: ones and the tan based ones, they have the Asian eyes,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: they have the squinted eyes. M And you see that
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: here too. That's the reason why I believe in the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: land Bridge theory.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. They're starting to find just even
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: like archaeologists and anthropologists are starting to say, you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: they just found those recently, those footprints out in white
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: sands are like, yeah, this is way older than just
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: just us, even us, you know that we've been here
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a lot longer. And then all the light are things
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: after finding and all the interesting you know, structures that
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you're still fighting here here in the Yugata Peninsula where
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I live, we're still everyone thinks that history is settled,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not. It's still an ongoing process that
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: we're looking back. I think they say, I'm freeing who
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: coined it. I can see his face that Graham Hancock said,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: where you know, species went amnesia. So it's it's kind
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of like we're still figuring these things out, So why
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: not think that the possibility that something like that is
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: also true. Have you ever had any weird experiences you
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: hear people? You know, there's there's two camps, there's the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: flesh and blood, and then there they call it the wu.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced anything weird with them, like together
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: with like the lights or the us or something.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yes. And again I'm on the fence on that because, uh,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: it's just like, this is a human being that is
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: able to be the best hide and seek player in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the world because he does not want to be around humans. Well,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: everybody's got the wrong opinion why he doesn't want to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: be around humans. They're terrified of us. We're a danger
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to them. So that's the reason why when we were
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: out here in the fields and stuff, messing with them,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: we don't want to back them in the corner because
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: they're scared of and.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Right, right, and if you back any animal into a corner,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it's going to be assive of course, right.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And now they will have what some people call glowing eyes. Uh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: they'll see orbs around stuff like that. I don't know
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: if that's coincidence, uh, but I do believe they have
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: nocturnal superpowers. Uh, if you put if you put a
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: hunting camera out, Uh, they see it in black and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: white and it looks like a spotlight shining a beacon,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like a batman beacon to them off of a funting camera.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Oh right, that makes so much sense, dude. It's kind
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: of like a turkey, where like a turkey is like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it's it's got a different visual acuity. So like you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you have to sit still and you can't even really
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: blinkers on this. So for them, that thinks a lot
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of sense. Man, it's a lot of sense. Wow.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So you get a lot of blurry pictures or you
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: get a lot of pictures that have nothing in it,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and they've they've learned to get around those cameras. So
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that makes them pretty smart, very smart to where me
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and you would walk into the woodch we would never
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: see that camera and if we did it already had
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: our picture. True. Now these things see nocturnal, so their
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: eye shines are a little bit different. And a lot
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of people would go back to the polaroid days to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: where you took a polaroid picture and you had to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: shake it to the picture. We have that eye shine too.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: In those pictures. You will see our eyes shine in
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: certain pictures.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: The red glow. Right.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Well, when you get into nocturnal then they have a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: pretty good eye shine because they can see in the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: dark a lot better than we can.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Got a thunderstorm going on right now. Yeah, welcome to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the tropic ladies and gentlemen.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot to uh these things, and we
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: are pushing them out. I have some people ask me
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: do you think the government is involved in them? And
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'll put it to you like this. The government's trying
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to protect them, okay, just like they trying to protect us.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: But there's so much, so much government can do before
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: lobbyists and corporations get into it. It's like the COVID,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the biggest scam and joke in the world to make money.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. I've been saying it for years forgetting.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Why do you think I'm here, Bruce yep? Why do
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you think I ran away to such a remote place?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Right? So the government is actually trying to protect them.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But then you've got minerals, mining companies, You've got paper
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mills that owns hundreds of thousands of land of trees.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: All this is big industry and with the overpopulation as
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: expansion we're going there are a lot of their territories
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: getting destroyed, so they're moving into a lot of places
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that's closer in to subdivisions and stuff than little plots
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of woods and stuff. So you're seeing more people see
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: them now, makes sense. Okay, they're not as dangerous as
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you know. People hang on to that good scary, dangerous story.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: But to the truth of the matter is, if they're
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: in your backyard hanging around, they're not going to bother you.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: If you want to go out there and barbecue, talk
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to them, let them get used to your voice and stuff,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and they'll become part of the family. They may not
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: step out and let you and interact with but they'll
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: show themselves and voice themselves because they fear us, you know, because.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just so interesting that you could just so
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: when you're in your backyard, which I think you also
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: have some woods behind your house there, you just kind
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: of talk to them and just like, hey, how's it
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: going or what are you saying?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, it's like me and you, right, Okay, we
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: know each other's voices, so we know when I hear
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: your voice, I know it's Tom and you hear my voice.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You know it's Bruce. When you're out and even in
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the deep woods and you're dealing with these things. If
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you go through the woods talking, they know your voice.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: After a while, they get used to that voice, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: so now they know your intentions are not bad. Now
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: they want to meet you, so they'll they'll gift you.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You hear a lot of people say, well, we give
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: them food and this, Well, they'll give you first. When
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: they're ready to meet. They'll give you first, and gently
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: could be a reef, a stack of rocks, or something.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: They're ready to meet. They trust you. They know your voice.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: So when you take somebody else into the woods with you,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you don't see them. You'll see the structures, you'll see
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the footprints. But after they're we you a few times,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: they accept their voice. They know that you're calm. They
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: know you're not. You don't have it right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So if you hear like you know, if you're in
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: your bedroom sleeping upstairs, then you hear someone talking in
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the backyard, all of a sudden, you look, you listen
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: for a second. Oh, it's just you know, Bruce is over,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: are having a barbecue.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: No big deal, right, right, and it's the same thing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: with these With these cryptids, I call them cryptids so
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: people understand what they are. I'm one hundred percent believer
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in being human. The midor Conrad DNA, which is on
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the mother's side, definitely says that they're over fifty percent
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: of that is human. They don't know what the father
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: side is, but they do know what the father side is,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: but they're just not releasing it. And so we're getting
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: into a more and more encounters, whether they that split
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: second second encounter crossing the road in front of you,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: whether you're in your backyard and it backs up to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a set of woods, you hear the screams, you are
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: on the back deck and a pebble gets throwed up
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: on the roof and rolls off on the deck where
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you can see it. You know, they're trying to communicate.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And I had one young man that got up so
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: obsessed with him because he's seen it pick his cat up,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and he knew his cat was going to be killed.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: But then it set his cat back down and walk
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: back in the woods.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And so you know his parents, his parents said he
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: quit college and put all these cameras up and he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: stayed up day and night watching his screams, and he
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: becomes so occessed with him. But when he would lay
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: down and go to sleep of a daytime from exhaustion,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: they would come out and then he'd catch them on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the camera. He'd go back and rewind to catch him
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: on his camera. Yeah. Well, after accepting them and him
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: not being scared of them, and they weren't scared of him,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he decided to go hush on it and not tell anybody,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: but didn't wanted to protect them. Now they're his buddies,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: they're his neighbors, right, So we have a lot of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that too. Again, put her on us and put us
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: out in the woods. We're gonna buff up. You know.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Sometimes something looks nine feet tall when it's not but seven.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: It's just pumped up, you know.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear a lot of that where people are.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You know, Barbershupe for example, is a great example where
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: she's just you know, she just kind of is there
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, uh, and they're just friendly with her,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and she know, she's like, don't like their picture taken,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: don't like this? Then like that. But she has some
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: really incredible footage. If you ever get a chance to
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: look at her Barberscoop channel at c h UP and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: and there's people who are afraid of them, because I
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: think it's natural. It's not for us to be afraid
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: of something.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all raised up to stay out of
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the woods. Wood booger, get you, or the boogeyman or what.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: The boogeyman, that's what they called him here. I was, Yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: that's what that is. You think that comes from that,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the Boogeyman.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your that's your old uh indigenous people. What's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: say that?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Oh ship? Yeah that's all I don't Yeah, all right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So that's so it's like a what do you call
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: like folklore? I mean, actually, I grew up in Baltimore, man.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I just finally got myself a Ravens out. I'm a
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Baltimore man, right, yeah, dude. And you know, we would
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I grew up in the city sometimes in Accounty.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: We moved a lot as a kid, but you would
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: hear that, you know, kids at school would talk about
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the Boogeyman. I always thought it was something like more akins,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: like if you're watching the movie The Candyman, you know
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Something it's kind of like a spooky
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: ghost kind of thing. Uh, something big though too. It
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: was big, scary, but it never was like kind of
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: spoken like I guess I got lost through time.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: But well as as Europeans mingled with the Indians, the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: stories got changed. And so when stories get changed, the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Engines will stick to the when they passed the store
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: down from generation to generation, they will stick to the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: point of what it was. The Europeans come in and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: have an experience to add a little bit to it,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. And some it towards now the Boogeyman instead.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Of the wood booger.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: All right, wood booger or you know, it's just the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Harry Man's gonna get you, you know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Just a way to keep the kids in the yard nowadays.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Back then it was taken very seriously.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even at Appalachia is a very spooky place. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: don't think people realize it's scarier than the Rockies, the Andes.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It's scary to most mountains. First of all, I believe
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it's the oldest mountain range in the world. And and
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and then it moves from the continental drift and all
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that that we've experienced with that we haven't experienced but
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: that we know about now, and there's those mountains are like,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of eroded, and you know, around it,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: it's a very beautiful place, but there's some hollers back there,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and there's so many stories and people like you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: if you hear someone calling you in the woods, don't
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: go in there, you know. Or when it's you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: dark time, you got to come out of the woods.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You got to stay in the yard. You can't go
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: in there because there's you know, witches and all kinds
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: of stuff. It's a very spooky place.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Another famous Indian folk war is the Moon Eyed People.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: The Moon Eyed people left a lot of the markings
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of a lot of big rocks that they carved on
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff. And these were people that live don only
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: come out at night time. And they recalled the moon
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: eye people by the Native Americans.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: So, huh, do you know what do you know about them?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Have you had experiences with that?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yes? Uh, there's plenty of evidence around out their fort
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: But in the carvings in these cave systems and under
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: these bluffs. Uh, if you know how to read the story,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you can read the story that you're depicting on the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: cave drawings you'll have uh, I go way deep into
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the warrior's path, which is all known for that from
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: ancient times talked about that. And so you'll catch something
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: out of a corner of your eye. It'll be real
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: light skins. But its head is its head seems to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: be bigger than a normal head. And my eyes have
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: a moon shaped to them, and they don't have eyebrows
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and stuff, And so most people mistake that with aliens.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Oh rays, See what.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Do you mean by moon shape? Do you mean like
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: crescent moon or right?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: The moons are huge and they're perfectly round, full moon shape,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: so they call the moonlight. Okay, so they look like the.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Grays.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Everybody talks about that are saying the aliens. So I
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: tend to believe a lot of times over those are
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: misidentified his aliens instead of the moon eyed people.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of this before. I've never ever heard
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It's like every time I start talking to people from
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a palish like yourself and many many others, because you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I've heard of the was it the black eyed children
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: or I think they called that. Yeah, yeah, I've heard
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of them. Do you know anything about them?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yep? And I also know about the raven Walker. Have
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you heard anything about him? No, sir, okay. A raven
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: walker is a giant bird that walks like a man
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and as tall as the average man. He runs between
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: five eight and six feet tall. He's a body. He's
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a soul snacher. He only comes after the elderly on
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: their dying beds, and that's happened a lot in the Appalachia.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You hear a lot about the raven Walker. And he's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: covered in crow feathers. He looks like a crow. He's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: giant as a crow, you know. But everything about him
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and he makes the sound of crows. But he'll walk
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: across your rooftop and stuff at night when you have
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: an elderly person dying in the house.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I always wanted to move out there, but I
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: think I'm going to change my tomb now. Dude. That's
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that's spooky stuff, Dude, that's really spooky.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I just I've just done a piece on the Pigmies
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of Tennessee, which is very interesting. They're the small people,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: generally about two foot tall. They're Native Americans called pygmies.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: They've ruled one path of the Warrior's Path through the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: middle of the state. Uh, there's over one hundred thousand
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: burial sites of them, and they're buried in a h
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: two and a half by nineteen inches wide by sixteen
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: inches deep limestone box. And there's recorded to be up
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand in a six acre field sow
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: those you know, those were talked about by several different
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: tribes all the way through as far as they can,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: they can go back to them.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, I'm pulling up something at the same
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: time we're talking, because there's something similar here that I've
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and shared this with you. I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever talked to you about it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I know people here I've talked about it before. Uh,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: there we go. It's different here. I'm used to teaching
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: people English all day. Uh so they have a different
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: word for them, and like these pictures and these pictures
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: is not going to be very good. But uh they
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: they're called a looche. It's a Mayan lurs a looche.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: They are as you're describing, two to three foot tall.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: They are like they call them like they call them,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: they're what's the word looking for they're like cupid whatever
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that form of phase. And they're there are Native American.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: They're they're actually conjured by the Mayan, the Mayan Indians,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and there are so many sightings of these things around
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: here that I'm this is the next thing for me
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: is that eventually I don't want people to you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: hold me to it. I'm going to There's carvings all
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: over the place and in in the in the pyramids
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and you know, adjoining structures of these things, and there's
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: so many stories groups of people. I've talked to people
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: hear about that because you know, this is what I do.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I enjoy trying to get out this information because some
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: of it's you know, especially when it comes to dog Man,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: they can be a little bit more aggressive, as you know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and a little more scary from what I've heard, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: they're saying, yeah, these things live in the cave systems here.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: This is the whole thing is the lime crop, limestone outcrop,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: and there's caves everywhere here and they'll come. There was
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: a story bruce Berg. This a gentleman, a friend of
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: mine that I worked with, a Mexican fellow. He was
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: talking about his uncle and his uncle's friend. They were
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: in a backyard and his backyard is maybe an acre.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: It's a huge backyard with like some wooded area, like
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: more jungle, but what I call it angry forest. If
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you ever been to the jungle, it's just an angry forest.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: And you can't see Jack squad.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: You can't see but maybe ten to fifteen feet and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: then you can't see nothing, which I think. There's also
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a bigfoot down here. Has also been sighting as a
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: dog man about fifteen minutes from where I sit right
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: here or so. The knock whall is a name for
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: oh what do they call that? The n a Lushia
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Lushi lushi gi Na Lushi skin walker. They're also here
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: and so so his friend was like, I'm hearing something
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: over He goes, yeah, there's a cave back there. I'm
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: gonna show you something. They were drinking beer. He pours
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a little glass of beer, puts it on like the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: stump takes cigarette lights. It sets on the stump. This
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: thing comes out two two and a half three foot tall. Right.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: They like to throw rocks too. They like to throw
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: rocks too. Yeah, and uh, this thing just takes a beer,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: drinks it smokes cigarette and walks away. They get this
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: thing that happens here that people get like a fever.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: They'll get a fever and for three or four days,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: and some of them, some of them Bruce, have perished
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: because of this. And so my plan in the future
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: is to go into these deep Mayan communities. That's my
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: next language I'm learning. You know, I'm a holly Glad.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I speak three so that will be my first indigenous language.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: And I want to learn and take a van podcast,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: set up multiple angles and just talk to these people.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Go in there, get the plant medicine. They have tons
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: of plant medicine, and go Yeah, they're always here at night,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and go and investigate these things. And you saying what
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you said about the pigmy, is there any similarities of
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying with what you what you experienced.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, they're in White County here in middle Tennessee. If
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you google it them, it will tell you about the pigmies. Uh.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: The Smithsonium come in and took thousands of the graves,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and then of course the bones disappeared. But they when
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the farmers turned the properties to make crops, turn the land,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: they uncovered a lot of them. So some of the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: farmers did keep the tiny skeletons and stuff. The Smithsonium
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: tried to pass them off as engines that were cut
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: up and bundled up with leather and put in small grapes,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: but uh, the farmers were managed to keep the whole
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: skeletons and and yeah packed you know.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And so here we are. This is what you're talking
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: about here, Bruce.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one on the left of the two heads,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: that's your pigmy head.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, this here, this part here here, yeah, oh wow,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: that is a that is a that is significantly smaller.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeh.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And here here's some of the graves. And I all right, man,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: all right now, being a law enforcement officer in the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: time that you were, because I know that some of
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: these things will come up while you're on call or
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: on duty, you know, people hearing things in the yard
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: or you know the road incident you talked about. You know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you could only basically come out and start talking about
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: this with me. Oddly enough, after you retired because of
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: fear of like losing your pension correct.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, and being locked up because we have policy and procedure,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to talk about this. I can, I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: can strip you of everything you've got and lock you up.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: So it's like talking about a case that you're not so.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, all right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: When it comes to things like this, it's always in
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the open investigation, so you're not allowed to talk about it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know that. So Tennessee pigmy moon eyed people,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: raven man, raven walker. Okay, those are ones I got
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: to look into. If anybody wants to talk to me
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: about that, please contact me at the iatrobe career at
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: podcast gmail dot com. I'm I'm always interested in all
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: these things. Let's get let's go into like the the
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: one that seems to be I don't it's really weird
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: to say the word, but I guess popular, or the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: one that seems to be talked about and that you've
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: had multiple experiences with. What can you tell me about
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the dog banded?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: The dog man has comes in about five or six
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: different varieties. They have the ones which are very uncommon
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: here in Middle Tennessee on the warriors, and that's the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: German shepherd head dog man. Every now and then you
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: will run into one. Most of the dog man are
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: short snout uh, have big floppy ears like a cow. Uh.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: They can make those ears lay back flat against their
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: head Uh. They're generally staying the seven foot rains, but
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it's not uncommon to find one eight and a half
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to nine foot tall.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: They're mostly loners, but they do pack up from time
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: to time. Uh. I got into a holler the the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: farmer asked me not to give them because he had
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: He had witnessed it too. As matter of fact, he's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: standing on the mountain above me looking at binoculars and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: with witnessed me down there with them. So again I'll
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: say it was on the warrior's path, which it was,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: but want I can't say what county parks.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, of course.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I got followed. I went down in there, and I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: got followed by seven dogmen. They ranged from six and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a half feet to eight feet is by what we estimated.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: They followed me up the spring branch towards him, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: he was watching them through binoculars. There were four females
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and three males. As we was coming around a point
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to start up the ridge, the females and the males
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: got into a terrible fight. So I had one male
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and a female stand back, and the others started fighting.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: And then within a few fat of me, one of
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the females threw one of the males and he landed
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: like twenty five feet from me. So I died, then
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: slowly walked up the hall or the creek branch and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: got up far enough to where I could watch the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: fight go on. And this went on for a good
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: for me, it seemed like fifteen minutes, but it probably
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't over five because the intensity of it and the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: screener and got into that one. And then my witness
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: was the farmer, and he was trying to use his
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: sell phone to videotape it, but he couldn't get it
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: zoomed in because you know, these cell phones are pixels.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: They're low pixels, three pixel, five pixels on, so they
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: tend to pick up what's close as a limb. They
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: tend to focus on the limb, the blurry in and out.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But what had happened there is that these males started
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: falling me and the females stopped him, and that's what
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: caused the fight. And I had been in there several times,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: so they were used to me and my smell and
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the way I talked, And then I got into A
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: buddy of mine calls me at nighttime. He wakes me
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: up and he tells me. He say, Bruce said a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: friend of mine, and we both know him. He said,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a friend of mine is got a problem. He really
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: really needs to get a hold of you. And he said,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: all right, if I give him your number and stuff.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I've got no problem. So just in
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a few minutes he calls me and he said, Bruce,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: he said, I know who you are, and so if
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: you know who I am, I said, yeah, I know.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I said, no problem. What you got going on? He said,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I'm scared to death. Come out of my house. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I said, okay, I said, build me in. What scared you?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: He said, I got some hogs and they had some piglets,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and he said I had to take a panel pence
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and put along my regular fence to keep the piglets
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: from going through the holes and getting out behind the
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: barnyard or and he said, I was on the inside
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: of the hog lot putting these panels up, and he says,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: this woof walks up to me on the other side
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: of the fence within twenty five feet and he said,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I've got a thirty eight special on me. I did
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: not know what it was. I shot it and it
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: scared me. And I shot it and it took down
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: into the gully into a bunch of honeysuckles, and it
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: was bleeding. And I said, okay, you want me to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: do And he's like, well, right now, it's coming around
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: my house. It's on the outside of my house. I said,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it's outside your house right now. He said yes. I said, okay,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump in the car and headed your way.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: So I jumped to my vehicle on my truck and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I headed his way. When I pulled up in his driveway,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I got my cell phone and it picks up on
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: his wife. I so I tell him, I said. I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: called him through messenger and I said, hey, I'm out
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: here in the driveway driveway. Do you still see him?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: He said, yeah, he's on the back porch. I said,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: if he tries to come through the window or whatever,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: shoot him. Don't let him get to you. He said, oh, oh,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I'll shoot him. I said, don't don't back up, you know.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: He said, it won't be no problems. He tries to
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: come through into the house, I'm gonna shoot. So I said,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here in the driveway when my
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: lights off and see if he comes around At the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: front of the house. Well he did. He come around
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the upper side and come around to the front of
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: house and got on the porch. When he got on
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the porch, I dropped my vehicle and drive with the
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: lights off, and I drove up in his yard and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: then I cut my lights on high beams. Well, it
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: was a big he's about a little over seven foot tall, woophead,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: big long woodheaded German shepherd. I call it typehead, one
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: of the very few I've seen. So I'm looking him
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: up and down, and he's got no blood or nothing
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: on him. But this farmer says he shot him point
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: blank with a thirty eight and he was bleeding in
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the blood. So when I do that, he jumps off
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the porch and goes into the barn. Now, when I
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: first pulled in, I could see the barn and part
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: of the front door. But when I pulled up into
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the yard against his porch and flipped the high beams on,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I could no longer see the barn. Right, Okay, So
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: we're I'm on the phone with him and I said,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I can hear a pig squealing. He says, it's in
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the barn. It's in the barn. After my pigs. So
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I get out of the vehicle. I said, you can
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: come with me. He said, I ain't coming out. I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: ain't coming out. So I got out of the barn.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I had my shotgun out of the car, and I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: walk over to the barn. When I get to the barn,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I've got a good light. I can't find him. He's left.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: He's went out the back of the barn doors. So
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I go back around and I walk up on his
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: front porch and I holler and tell him this time.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: We're not on the phone this time because I need
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: my hands free from my light and my gun. And
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I holler and tell him. I said it's me, don't shoot.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: So he opens the door and I walk in. He's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: got a biting pit bull and I was like, watch
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that dog. I don't want to get bit. He said,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that dog scared to death. He said, I ain't never
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: seen him do that. He's wimping, whining. And so we
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: was in the living room. The dog went behind the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: couch and this is a big dog. This is an
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: eighty ninety pound dog, big muscle up pit bull, And
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: so we go at it again. He comes up. This
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: dog man comes back again. So I tell him, cut
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: all the lights off in the house. Cut all the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: lights off. We don't have no lights on in the house.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: So we go into the kitchen. The dog comes. He's fault,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: he's we're not getting out of his sight. He runs
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: up under the table, and then we're sitting there and
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: completely dark. And I had walked over there and pulled
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the Venetian blinds up at the kitchen sink. And the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: dog starts whimpering again, and he starts cowering, and he's
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: not barked the whole time, and the and the farmer's
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: telling me, this dog always barks for I make him
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: shut up. He won't shut up. So we're sitting at
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the table and he starts just whimpering. And then I
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: can tell I can't sing because it's totally dark. I
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: can tell that he's done moved under the kitchen table
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: so far that he's hitting the wall where the tables against,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: and just out of the blue, for some reason, I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: just cut the flashlight on. When I did cut my
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: light on, it lit the whole room up. But I
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: could see this German shepherd headed dog man looking through
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: the kitchen winder. He can see us in the dark,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: but we can't see him. So I told him, I said, well,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: he's at the kitchen winder, and I said, I'm gonna
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: get up at don't even look out way, don't I act,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and please don't shoot because I'm gonna. I'm here. I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: don't want to get shot, So take my shotgun. I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: go out the back door. When I go out the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: back door and step around there where the kitchen winder is,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: he has done back to wait from the kitchen winder,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and I burn him with a shotgun right good. And
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: he took off and this time he went wide and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: he went into the barn. So I had a pocket
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: full of shells loose in my pocket, so I followed
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: him into the barn cautiously, and uh uh. This time
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I was able to get I think a total of
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: four rounds off on him and he high tailed the Dowther.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: So it was this time, it was like three thirty
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm telling a farmer. I said, I'll
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: just hang out here with you to daylight and we'll
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: look around and see if he's hurt your hogs or
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: your piglets. And he said yeah, he said, I'd appreciate that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: So me and him just sit around there and talked
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and listen. The dog was no longer nervous, so we
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: knew he wasn't close.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know the dogs we come, Uh, that's all, yeah.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I mean he was just and you
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I could tell he was exhausted. His tongue was hanging
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: out with his mouth panting, so we knew that he
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: was panicked. But he'd already calm back down. So it
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: gets to daylight, we go out to the barn. There's
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the pigs or the hog's nothing. When
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: we come around the other side where his speed room is,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the doors broke and there's a twenty five pound bag
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: of piggy punch that you feed the pigs to wing
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: him off the hog for dysenteria. Well, two thirds of
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: that bag had been eaten by this dog man. So
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the only thing I could think of that I could
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: tell him was that this is not the one that
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you shot at the fence. This is probably its mate
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: looking for him. So I said, go show me where
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: you shot him at. And you know, by this time,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: he had his high powered riple. I had a pistol
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: on my hip and he had his thirty eight on him,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: and uh so we walk over and we look, and
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: when I cross the fence, sure enough, there's blood everywhere.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: But when I go down in the gully, the honeysuckles
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and everything that's just all the leaves are everything that
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: is covered up in blood. But we never found it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: So I stayed another couple of hours with him, probably
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: til eight or nine o'clock that morning, and I said, Okay,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you got my number. If this happens again, call me
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: just as soon as it happens so I can get
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: over here. Damn. But you know, he never experienced anything
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: else there again, and so I don't know whether he
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: was noting his mate or what the deal was.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just some and I know you're you know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I have you know, there's you know, sop. I'm a
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: former military man myself, you know, and uh you being
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: a policeman. But I you know, the the enemy so
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: to speak, or whatever it is. I know what they are.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: You know, they're humans that are trained to then take
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: me out. And I'm trained to take them out. That's
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: my job. That's what I do, and I do it
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: and I did it, you know, that was my thing.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: But when you're running coming into something that is. I mean,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: what is the dog man man? What do you what
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if it's been released yet. Dog
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Man is part human too, It's got a human DNA. Ah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Some of them have the front arms and the hands
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: of a man. Some of their hands can be so big.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: There's one in particular that I watched that I had
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: hands that could just pick up a basketball and completely
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: cover it. Now they look like raccoon hands, but they're
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: massive hands on the front. They're not piles, they're hands,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: their fangers. It's like we got that. They're massive. And
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: where the dew claw is supposed to be back here
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: is a human thumb sticking out. So those are those
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: are no doubt human, part human, and I don't know
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: what else what it could be.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Well, it seemed to be a little bit more aggressive
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: than the than the sasquatch of the wood burgers. That
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: there seemed to be a little more aggressive or a
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: little bit more.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Loaners, right there are Most of them are loaners. You
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: very seldom see more than one, and when you do,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: you'd sen gentleally see a pack, or you see two.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: But then I got into the one at stand in
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Stone State Park that I was very familiar with as
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a pup, and now he was up to about seventy
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: or eighty pounds. And when I run into him, there
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: there's a hiking trail above it. He could hear the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: people talking and he had slipped down below them. But
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: when he seen me, he remembered me, and he was
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: He would come up close to me and try to
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: make these gestures with his mouth. Then he turned around
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: and walked to the edge of the water and then
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: turn around and come back to me, and I realized
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: he's trying to give me the following. But just water
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: is so cold it'll take your breath. I mean, it's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: got trout in it. So I picked up a four
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: foot call it a log, probably about that big, a
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: round and four foot long, and I throwed it in
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the water because I wasn't about to swim out across
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: or and it's that cold without something to hang to
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: of some kind of bullet, see, because that cold water
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: shocks your body, it'll lock you up.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: So I love the way you talk that. I love
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: the way you talk. I'm from the East Coast, big city,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: and you say it'll lock you up, right, It makes
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: me laugh, I love it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh that's fine, and we swum it and
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: he stayed just right ahead of me. Well, at that
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: time of the evening, all the boats, alluminum boats and
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: stuff were brought back in because you've got to bring
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: him in the air before dark. So there was nobody
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: there at the dock, and the dock's got a roof
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: on it. And when we get to the dock, he
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: gets out on the dock and he waits for me
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: to catch up. So me and him both are on
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the dock. Well, then I follow him and he goes
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to the It's a damn that one vehicle can cross
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: at a time. Well, we start over the other side
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: of it, and he hears people talking down there, and
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I do too. Somebody's down there fishing or whatever. So
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: he turns around in motions to me to follow him,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and then he's making just a low, gutteral noise. So
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I follow him and we go straight up a mountain side. Well,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I had to stop seven or eight times. I just
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: can't do that, you know, as a human being, we're
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: not built like they are. And as I stopped, he
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: would stop a few feet above me and wait on me.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: But he would always be looking cautiously, looking like a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: deer or something, would be all the way around. When
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: we get up to the top of the hill finally,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and I hear a vehicle off in the distance coming
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and he hears it too, and he makes emotion and
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: walks out at me and makes emotion like he's going
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: towards that vehicle. But then he turns and looks at me.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: And then just so we were probably there seven or
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: eight minutes before I realized he's wanting me to go
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: on because he's going to lead these other people off
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: because he's thinks they following him. And that's what I'm thinking.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, because I'm not reading his mind.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: He's not talking English. And so when I cut through
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: there and he stays back, and after I get just
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: a few yards, I'm looking he he's his back into
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the woods out of this rowed up field and he's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: going on. He's going on. Well twenty yards from the road,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: here comes this truck. Well it's a road, it's a highway.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that close. He was leading
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: and the name of the road was Baptist Ridge Road.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: So I get up there and I get on the road.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I keep in mind, I'm soaking wet. This is early spring,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: so it's still cold weather.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: We got thirty degrees some nights. So I'm walking out
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the road and this elderly man pulls up and said,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you need a ride. I said, yeah, I'm parked over
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: here in the park. And I told him where I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: was parked at. He said, I know where he parked at.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: It's exactly where, he said, I know exactly what you're
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: talking about. So I get in the truck with him
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: and he gives me ride over and I think and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: try to pay him, and he's he said, no, you
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: don't know me. Think, but tell me what are you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: doing soak and wet? I said, oh, I was around
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the lake over there and slipped and fell in. I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: wouldn't fix and tell him about I swum the lake
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: with a dog man, you know, because that turned out
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: to be a very interesting situation. But I wasn't afraid
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: of him because I had run into him when he
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: was a puph.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Did did you ever find out what he really wanted?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: He was trying to get away from the people on
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: the trail. Uh huh?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Wanted you go with him?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, to protect me. He wanted me to follow him.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: He was, he was bypassing everybody out there, but he
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: was looking after me, and.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: He must have sent something. He must have send something.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's the one that I talked about that I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: an that had the clear eyes in the hotel.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: It's the same one.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: It's the same one.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: But later. Yes, Holy moly, dude, you know when you're
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: telling me these stories, there's always a part of me,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: He goes, Man, why isn't Bruce like when you're talking
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: about this, Why aren't you like, you know, shaking or
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: stuttering or something. Is it just that it's been your
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: whole life and it's just been so often that it
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: just doesn't.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't affect me if you take like I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: took a guy out and all he wanted to do
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: was see a bigfoot. He didn't want to see it
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: up close. He just wanted to see it at a distance.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Sounds like me, Okay, he'd never seen one. His father,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: his mother, both of his grandparents, and both of his
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: great grandparents talked about him being on the property's they own,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And so I took him and I told him I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: give him the lowdown on it, and what to expect
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Can your nervous system. Oh yeah, yeah, you know,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: this is a you know, I think he was six four,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: pretty good sized guy. And I said, Okay, we're going
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: to go into a place. He said, Bruce, all I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: want to do is Sea one. I just want to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: see it. I've heard my grandparents and everybody talking about him.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I just want to see one. So we went. I said, now, worry,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take you. They're not going to walk
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: out on us till they get used to you. So
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: you need to do a lot of talking till you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: get so bored of hearing your self talk out loud.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: So we get down in the mountains and we go
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: every day. Right at two weeks, they stepped out. So
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: when they stepped out, we was in a wide creek.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Then the creek was fed by a spring branch, although
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: most of the creek was ankle deep, with a few
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: spots with a waist deep in it. So I told him,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I said, I see one and they're coming out, and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I want you to stay back, and I set the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: camera up on the tripod and everything. I just want
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: you to run the camera. And I said, because when
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: they come around that bend. You're going to see the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: whole body. You're just seeing something move. You can't determine
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: what it is yet, but I want you to run
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the camera and I'll make sure that they don't come
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: up towards you. So we get down in there, and
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I go down there and I meet them, but I
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: get them out in the open and the straight enough
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: stretches where he can get them filmed. So we're having
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: this interaction for about forty five minutes. For the big female.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: She keeps the rest of them back and she's trying
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: to talk and sign language to me, and so our
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: interaction was over with, probably for forty five minutes. It
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: might have went an hour. I turn around to look
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: up the creek because I'm not wanting to give him away,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: so I never look back up the creek because he's filming.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I turn around and look and he's gone. The camera's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: still sitting there on a tripod, but he's gone. So
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: we get done there and I come back out of there,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm hunting for him. So I'm going through the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: woods calling his name. He's not answering me. So I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: go back and I get my camera back, everything back up,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: put my camera stand, break it down. It slides in
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and then I get it all back in my backpack
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and I mean, it's not long before dark.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: If I don't start out of here, it's going to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: be pit's dark. Of course, I ain't too worried about it,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: because I've got a headlamp with me to whar on
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: my head. But I need to get this equipment back
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: up there, and I need to go find him. When
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I get back up to the truck, he's sitting in
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: the truck with a doors locked, and I'm like, unlock
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: a door and let me in. I mean, it just
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: terrified him. Yeah, So we get he does, and I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: put my stuff over in the bed of the truck
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm backing out and we come back out and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: we're headed down the main road and I look at him.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I said, tomorrow we're going to come back and I
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: need you to film and I'll bring a bigger lens
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: to put on the camera so you can stay further.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: At that time, it's probably he's probably fifty yards behind
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: me filming. I said, how much fim did we get?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: He said, I didn't film it. I was like what
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I said, it was on I said I already had
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: it set up and running, he said, I was looking
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: through that lens and when it come out in the open,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: and I've seen it, he said, I hit the button
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and stopped it, and I took off running, and I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: didn't stop till I got the truck. So I only
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: got like three seconds of this female standing there, and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: he cut the feed on me.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: He cut the recording on me, and he just told
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: you that he was just terrified or whatever.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Right, And of course I know, I know. I mean
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of people talk big until something like that happens, yes,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: and then they're gone, you know, Oh.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'd probably be one of them. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't hold him against him because I'm
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: not that big and thrilled on femin one. To start with,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I like to use certain cameras to where the pictures
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: can't be GPS. I don't like to use my cell
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: phone because you could GPS a cell phone picture instantly.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: And right so, or you could or you could screenshot
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: that cell phone picture and therefore and then re send
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: it again. Then the GPS will be you can scratch
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: it out, you know what I'm saying. And like we
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: go to Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bruce. I mean there's never
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: been a time, there hasn't been a time that you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: haven't come on here and just you know, it was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: a cartoon. You know, my jaw is litteral on the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: ground because you know, being a city folk like myself,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I just it's uh, it's just amazing,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: it's shocking, and and for you it's just you know,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: part of your life. You know, what is what has
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: compelled you to come out and talk to talk to
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: me and other people before I get you a better
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: What has compelled you to do so to get their
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: side of the story out. I guess maybe.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: What what happens is, uh, I started seeing a lot
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: of people posting actual pictures and I got hit hard.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: People laughing at him, They sayers, and then even some
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: big names in the big boot business. We're putting these
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: people down. And I was trying to figure out they
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: know what a big but or dog man looks like,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: why are they're attacking Well? I was talking to a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: friend who h was a belonged to the Big Butt
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: believers and other creature Daryl Denton's group. Oh yeah yeah,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: and they told me said come on this group and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: talk about this and h these there's other people that's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: probably had the same type of counters that you've had.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And here we don't allow any ah laugh of emojis
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: or any kind of hate stuff. And in person, you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: know what you got to say. I mean, it's something
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: that people need to learn that these things are not
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: out to kill everybody and everything. And so I joined
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the group. I was in the group. I joined the group,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: and I think in December the year before AH. Then
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I started to get a private messages from people with threats.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So I build out the group because I thought that's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: where they were getting their information. And so I bailed
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: out of the group. When Buddy calls me up and says, hey,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I mean you got to come out with this. You can't.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: You can't go to your grave and educate people on
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: this because it's not right that these these things there's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: not no word like people are making them out to be,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and you have all the first hand knowledge on it
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: and you're not scared of them. And she says, there's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: people can't even talk about it without crying or last
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: minute going on the podcast, they'll bail out because their
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: nerves can't handle it, you know. And I was like, well,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I said, I'll try it. She said, I got a
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: good one. I think you'll like him. And I said, well, okay,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it one shot, but I'm not really
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: into the public thing of all this. She said, I'm
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: gonna a key up with Tom Franklin.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I would love to know who that was, who sent it,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: who sent you my way?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you after the show.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, shut out if it's not Pam. But
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: not Pam, I'm sure she would have directed you my
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: way to Wow. Well wow, I can't believe that. Whoever
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: this person is said, whoever you are, thank you very much,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm so glad that you stepped forth. And I'm
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: also so very honored and glad that you came on
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: to talk with me again today. Man, you were always
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: invited I time. Okay, fair enough, fuddy uh yeah. So yeah,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: I know that you're not here in it for any
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: type of publicity. So there's nothing that you promote or
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: anything like that. Now.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: So I have not made one penny, not one bread
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: samp awful, These hundreds of podcasts and these people talking
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: to me, private messaging me, showing me their photos, asking
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: me what can they do next, showing me scat getting
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: my opinions on tracks structures. I don't charge anything because
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: if when the truth is out there and enough people
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: can comprehend it and understand, and this is the best
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: way I can put it to people. If Big Button
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: dog Man was so terrible and so mean, uhh, when
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: you went to the park to swim, when you went
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: even in town to set out on a picnic table,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: these things would get you. But they're not. They're scared
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: of you. They stay away from humans for a reason.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: You know. We tend to destroy and hurt things that
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: we don't understand. And so I paid, well, I'm going
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: to come out and let people know that you gotta
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: stick the sword throughom you ain't got to shoot them
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: with a cannon or nothing else. They don't mean you
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: no harm. You know.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just human nature. Whatever we don't know,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: we're afraid of and uh we like to conquer it
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: and to know things, uh makes us feel good and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: the unknown makes us uh extremely afraid. And uh, I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: just I just love to bring forth. You know, there's
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: people who've had that encounters with him. But I'm sure
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: you can explain a lot of those away from territorial
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: things and uh, things of that nature, you know, and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: and and just realize, O, hey, if you do this,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: then you won't have any problems anymore. And just let
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: them be there, right.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Don't well, don't don't go wood knocking in the woods
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: unless you know what that wood knocking means.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't mess with oji boards if you don't
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: know what's on the other side. That's all. I always
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: help me about those things. Sure boards are I think
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: they're more dangerous than the Bigfoot, honestly.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Easy, one hundred, one hundred percent.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Bruce, once again, thank you so very much
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: for coming on, buddy.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Oh anytime, anytime you want me to sit down and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: shoot the breeze, let's do.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: It, dude, Absolutely buddy, And you never get a chance.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: A couple of venice in Tennessee area, you know. Uh,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: hope the military is more than welcome, steps up and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: helps me out a little bit more. Hopefully this does well. Uh,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: And I would love to do this full time, and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely come up there with you for sure, for sure.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: A few Uh, I'll take you to pygmy graves. I'll
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: take you to cave systems with dog men, and you
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: might even get to do what I've done, Uh just
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, was stick your head in the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: cave and have a dog man look at you about
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: a foot from your nose.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: No, that's not gonna happen, Bruce.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Once, once you get calm, Once you get calm and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: used to them and realize that they're not at h
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: aggressive mm hmmm. They're curious about us, but they're scared
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: of us. Mm hmm. Okay, as while as you're talking
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: out loud and let them get used to your boys,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: your intensions, your swagger. They don't pick you out of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: a million people. They just know it.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: I have many people tell them, you know, tell me
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: that you know that I just have to I can
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: do that. I'm very easy to talk to, which is
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: great for being a host. I would start slow, you know,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: like if we could sit in the truck and see
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: a bigfoot through the window, and then I'll go into
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: the bloods with you and then I'll whatever, and then
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: later I know you don't get the pick and choose,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: you know, they come out and trust you as they
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: trust you, as you're telling me. But yeah, definitely buddy.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: And yeah this has been great buddy.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Oh no problem, no problem, just do it again.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Absolutely so rever guys, we are the eye, we are aware,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: love you all, have yourself a wonderful day.