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- 0:00Leviticus isn't just random rules, it's a road map to
- 0:04relationship. In this episode, we're going to
- 0:06explore how sin doesn't get punished.
- 0:08It destroys us structurally, rippling from individuals to
- 0:12families to cultures. The goal of holiness isn't
- 0:16really control, it's proximity and closeness to the Lord.
- 0:20Ultimately, Leviticus points us to Jesus, the one who fulfills
- 0:24the law and restores what sin fractures.
- 0:28If you've ever wondered what obedience looks like today, this
- 0:31conversation is for you. Let's go Welcome everybody to
- 0:40episode 60 of the Faith for Today podcast.
- 0:43My name is Matthew. I am your host and I am thrilled
- 0:45that you are joining us today. Whatever it is that you're up
- 0:49to, whether you're driving in the car, going on a walk,
- 0:52running on the treadmill, getting some workout in, or just
- 0:55cooking dinner for your family man, or maybe I'm helping you
- 0:58get to sleep. I don't know.
- 0:59Whatever it is, I'm glad you are listening or watching along.
- 1:04This podcast is designed to help you move beyond just inspiration
- 1:09on Sunday to integrating to the life of faithfulness to Jesus
- 1:14throughout the week. So we don't want to just walk
- 1:17away feeling good on a Sunday. We want to be faithful even on a
- 1:21Thursday. And to this, this episode, like
- 1:24all of them, we're going to recap a Sunday message, going to
- 1:27give you a little bit of bonus content taking you beyond the
- 1:30message and then respond to some questions we think people are
- 1:35asking or that we've received. So that's what we're getting to.
- 1:39And if ever you would like to have your question answered on
- 1:43the podcast from a Sunday message, there is a link on our
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- 1:53anytime on any of the messages that we preach, and we'd love to
- 1:57be able to respond and help you grow in your understanding and
- 2:01deepen your knowledge of the scriptures.
- 2:05Well, this week we were looking at Leviticus 26 and more
- 2:11specifically the really big picture of Leviticus as a whole.
- 2:15And I wanted us to see that this book isn't just random rules,
- 2:19but rather it's this invitation into a rich relationship with
- 2:23God. Now, Leviticus is structured in
- 2:26a chiastic way or in a chiasm, and the Day of Atonement is kind
- 2:31of at the center, showing us that the heart of everything is
- 2:35really reconciliation and being made clean with God.
- 2:40The message, I think, of Leviticus is really clear that
- 2:42God dwells among his people. Sin contaminates what God loves.
- 2:47Holiness is God restorative work, what sin has damaged.
- 2:53We also see that Leviticus kind of hits every area of our life
- 2:57because there is no part of our life, of our existence, of the
- 3:01way in which we Live Today that God doesn't care about and that
- 3:05God hasn't designed in a way to flourish.
- 3:08Our bodies, our sexuality, economics, justice system, the
- 3:13justice system, worship itself. All of these things are a part
- 3:19of God giving us instructions and invitations to to rich
- 3:26relationship with Him and to experience the abundant life of
- 3:29God in every one of those arenas.
- 3:33Sin is one of those things that interrupts God's good order in
- 3:38our life, and sin is never really isolated to a single
- 3:41event and has a tendency to echo and reverberate wherever we
- 3:45never walk in repentance. It carries natural consequences
- 3:49built into creation. There are providential
- 3:52consequences to sin where God lovingly disciplines us, and
- 3:55there are societal consequences where where private choices
- 3:59multiply into public instability.
- 4:03But the goal of all of this isn't God trying to control or
- 4:06manipulate. It's God showing us the way to
- 4:09proximity with Him and to flourish in our life today.
- 4:14The rhythmic obedience was always about living close to a
- 4:18holy God so his presence could shape a flourishing people.
- 4:23And we also talked a little bit about justice and some of the
- 4:26tensions in our world today. And we look specifically at how
- 4:30Israel was commanded to treat the resident alien with both
- 4:35dignity and fairness. God left zero room for racism,
- 4:41hatred, or favoritism. Justice and dignity were never
- 4:45meant to be separated. The same time, we saw in
- 4:49Leviticus that worship belongs to God alone.
- 4:53It's not casual, it's not half hearted.
- 4:55It's clean, full heart, full soul given to God, His way.
- 5:02Holiness isn't called legalism. It's relational transparency
- 5:07that leads us to deal intimacy with Him and and if we're
- 5:11honest, who could ever fulfill all of the commands perfectly?
- 5:15Certainly not me, and most likely not you.
- 5:18I think that's why Leviticus points us to Jesus as the
- 5:22fulfillment of all of it. Alright, let me share just a
- 5:26little bit of bonus content with us today.
- 5:29The first thing I wanted to kind of extrapolate or talk a little
- 5:32bit more about is how sin is not merely punishment.
- 5:36There is punishment for sin, but it's structurally destructive
- 5:41for us. I said in the message that that
- 5:43God doesn't hate sin because he's so disgusted by it or in
- 5:48some self-righteous attitude looks condemningly down at sin.
- 5:54Actually, I I think sin is something that God wants to look
- 5:58compassionately on, yet is firm in its consequences towards us.
- 6:03Sin is something for God that he looks down at people and he
- 6:06recognizes that it's missing the mark of the good ordered way of
- 6:11living that God intended for us to live.
- 6:13It's when we live according to our own knowledge of good and
- 6:16evil. Sin has been the result.
- 6:19Sin is what brought destruction into the world.
- 6:21Sin is what brought misogyny into the world.
- 6:23Sin is what brought miscarriage into the world.
- 6:26Sin is what brought evil and sickness and death and decay and
- 6:31anger and violence and murder and mistreatment of others and
- 6:36slander and abuse. It's it brought all of the
- 6:39chaotic elements into our world. Sin is when we miss the mark of
- 6:44God's good way of living and we experience less than what God
- 6:48designed for us. Sin is missing the mark of this
- 6:51union with him and and it is structurally destructive.
- 6:56There's something destructive that sin kind of toxifies every
- 7:01area of our life and and there are spiritual components to
- 7:04where God cleanses us from sin. But there's an impurity that
- 7:08incurs because we have broken down the relationship and we
- 7:12have been marred and covered in the dirt and the nasty grind,
- 7:15the mud of, of sin. And, and I, I mentioned how
- 7:19consequences to sin show up in kind of like 3 mainstreams.
- 7:24They're natural, they're providential and they are
- 7:28societal natural. They're just kind of built into
- 7:30God's created order. It's a cause and effect, right?
- 7:34There's a natural consequence to living outside of the parameters
- 7:39that God has for us. There's just some natural
- 7:41consequences. You, you have providential
- 7:44consequences that come from sin, where God actively disciplines
- 7:49or permits outcomes that that are meant to bring us to a place
- 7:54of humility, repentance, and and calling on his name for rescue
- 8:00to allow us to come back into alignment with the things we've
- 8:03got in this. You see this often on a
- 8:05corporate level with the children of Israel throughout
- 8:09the story. But there are natural
- 8:10consequences. There are providential
- 8:12consequences and then there are societal ones, right, where
- 8:15communities absorb and multiply the damage or where society
- 8:21steps in to bring the consequence, as in the case of
- 8:24like breaking a law, there are societal consequences.
- 8:28There's a justice and A and a law that must be upheld through
- 8:33societal ways. And so when I say societal, I
- 8:37don't just mean that there are negative damages and
- 8:39repercussions in society, although that is true.
- 8:43And that is a part of the consequence that we see where
- 8:46we're broken. This just spreads all around a
- 8:49society or all around a family unit even, but also that society
- 8:56brings about consequence upon those who'd live in a way that
- 9:02is disordered from the order that God has established.
- 9:05So again, you murder. There are consequences that
- 9:09society brings to bear on someone who makes and commits
- 9:12that sin. There are natural things that
- 9:14occur. There are providential things
- 9:16that occur in in that scenario, and there are societal things
- 9:19that come into play in the consequences of sin.
- 9:23Because sin fractures the individual, it can destabilize a
- 9:27family and eventually corrodes a culture.
- 9:30Which is why I really do believe the most important thing for a
- 9:34church to do is not be community minded in the sense of just
- 9:38doing good in the community. Although that's a good thing to
- 9:41do, there's nothing wrong with that.
- 9:43That's a benefit. The most important thing for the
- 9:46people of God to participate in is helping bring people's heart
- 9:52back in alignment to God so that their life begins to live in the
- 9:57direction of God in an ongoing way.
- 10:02This is what we see again and again.
- 10:05And you can look at things like David and Bathsheba in the Old,
- 10:08in the Old Testament, Second Samuel, chapters 11 and 12,
- 10:11right? Adultery.
- 10:13And then he arranges murder and you see personal sin late with
- 10:18layered consequences in that story, right?
- 10:20There are natural consequences like the guilt that he feels,
- 10:23psychological burden that comes on.
- 10:25David, you see a breakdown of integrity and his leadership
- 10:30happens. There's family dysfunction that
- 10:32begins internally in David's own family.
- 10:34There's just natural ripple effects.
- 10:36But then there were providential circumstances, right?
- 10:38The prophet Nathan declares judgment.
- 10:41There's a child that dies as a result of the sin that David had
- 10:45committed. And then this idea that the
- 10:49sword will never depart from your house.
- 10:50In other words, David was a man of war and was not allowed to
- 10:55build the tap, the temple of God, God's temple, his, his, his
- 11:00house. That would be his son that would
- 11:02do that. There were societal
- 11:04consequences, right? And you find later this, this,
- 11:09this ongoing repeated pattern, right?
- 11:13Amnon assaults Tamar Absalom murders Amnon.
- 11:17Absalom leads a national rebellion.
- 11:19The Kingdom experiences this instability.
- 11:22There are ripples effects of the sin that David had committed.
- 11:26One private sin tends to ripple outward, body, soul, family,
- 11:31nation. You look at Israel's idolatry in
- 11:34scripture, national disobedience if you will.
- 11:37The sin is that there is covenantal unfaithfulness and
- 11:42idol worship. Like in Judges chapter 2
- 11:44specifically you see that it goes rampant where they 3
- 11:48generations from 4 generations from Moses.
- 11:52You have Moses generation, then Joshuah generation, then one
- 11:55more generation that stayed faithful to God but never passed
- 11:58it on to the next generation. And that 4th generation departed
- 12:03and grew up never knowing anything about God.
- 12:05And they gave their souls, they gave their worship, they gave
- 12:09their legions and loyalty to the Bales and the Asherith.
- 12:13Judges too says there were natural consequences.
- 12:16There was moral confusion that was rampant.
- 12:19A Judges chapter 21 said everyone did what was right in
- 12:23his own eyes. This is like Genesis chapter 6
- 12:28all over again where people just did whatever and there was
- 12:30nothing righteous, there was only evil happening on the
- 12:33world. It's kind of alluding to that in
- 12:35Judges 21, there was spiritual dullness and syncretism that was
- 12:39taking place where they were trying to marry God, worship of
- 12:42God, of the Bible with gods of their age and other cultural
- 12:47gods. And it was not working well.
- 12:52And and all of that begins to determine deteriorate in their
- 12:57own lives and their their providential consequences.
- 13:00There were societal consequences, but these happen
- 13:03again and again throughout throughout throughout the the
- 13:07Scripture. Now the next thing I wanted to
- 13:09share is kind of bonus content is this idea that repentance
- 13:13leads to remembering. Let me read it back to you in
- 13:19the Leviticus that we looked at on Sunday, Leviticus 26, if you
- 13:26remember, it kind of walks through like, hey, if you, if
- 13:30you do this, here are the commands.
- 13:31If you do this and this and this, then God's going to do
- 13:34this, this and this. And it's kind of like the the
- 13:36first if this, then that scenario in detail, which is
- 13:42kind of like paralleled again in like Deuteronomy 28 where God
- 13:46gives like a full list of blessings and cursings placed on
- 13:50our participation within or outside of the covenant
- 13:54boundaries that he set up. But but one of the things that
- 13:58is a part of this is in verse 40 of Leviticus 26, he says, But
- 14:03when they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their
- 14:07ancestors, then he goes on to say, and by their iniquity I
- 14:12mean their unfaithfulness that they practiced against me and
- 14:16how they acted with hostility toward me.
- 14:20And I then acted with hostility toward them and brought them
- 14:22into the land of their enemies. And when their uncircumcised
- 14:25hearts were humbled and they make amends for their iniquity,
- 14:29then I will remember my covenant with Jacob, I'll remember my
- 14:33covenant with Isaac, my covenant with Abraham, and I'll remember
- 14:37the land. I'll remember them, in other
- 14:39words, for their sake, I will remember the covenant with their
- 14:43ancestors whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in their
- 14:46sight. And so God's kind of giving this
- 14:48forecast and he's saying, hey, listen, when you walk away from
- 14:52the covenant, when you break the the covenant treaty that we
- 14:56have, when you, when you don't give me your whole heart and you
- 14:59start worshipping other idols, or you start mistreating or you
- 15:03break some of the commands and you're not caring for the
- 15:05resident alien or, or you are not bringing the tide.
- 15:09You're not caring for the Levite, You're not taking care
- 15:11of the sanctuary in the House of God.
- 15:13And all of the things that he lists in Leviticus 26 saying,
- 15:16hey, if you don't do this, this, this, and this, you're going to
- 15:19experience this, this, this, and this.
- 15:21But if you will repent, he says, if you will confess your
- 15:25iniquity and the iniquity of your ancestors.
- 15:27In other words, repentance is first recognizing and stating
- 15:32aloud the transgression that the the sin.
- 15:35And then there's not just remorse, but repentance involves
- 15:40remorse and kind of a renewed action.
- 15:44It's the the restitution, if you will, when, when, when they when
- 15:48they come and verse verse 41 says and they make amends for
- 15:53their iniquity. Making amends doesn't mean that
- 15:57you're paying off somebody to ignore a sin or to ignore
- 16:01something. Making amends is like, what do I
- 16:04need to do to bring proper reconciliation and make it right
- 16:09where I've left a debt, if you will?
- 16:12That's kind of this idea. Like there's something that's
- 16:14been missing. How do I reaffirm what's, how do
- 16:17I refill the glass that's been emptied?
- 16:22That's a little bit of what the language is kind of hinting at.
- 16:25And so he says repentance isn't just remorse.
- 16:29It's not just remorse and recognizing in clarity, with
- 16:33honesty what you did wrong. It's remorse.
- 16:36It's recognizing and acknowledging what you did wrong
- 16:39and it's making amends. It's so repentance is really a
- 16:43full turn in a new direction. It's doing something different.
- 16:47It's not continuing in the same thing.
- 16:50It's it's changing direction and moving.
- 16:52Not that you'll never do that thing again, but repentance is
- 16:55just a recognition and a returning back to God and doing
- 17:00something God's way, even if it's not permanent or perfect
- 17:04every time. I think one of the ideas that we
- 17:06get around repentance is that like we only need to repent when
- 17:10we're ready to do it perfect. And I think our intention isn't
- 17:14that rather our, our repentance comes because like there is
- 17:18remorse and a recognition that I've been doing the wrong thing
- 17:22and I want to go God's direction.
- 17:23I'm going to turn and start moving.
- 17:26And so I'm going to take a step to move in the right direction.
- 17:29I think that is proper repentance and something that
- 17:32God holds. And he says this, I'm going to
- 17:35remember my covenant with you and, and I'm going to do a
- 17:38little bit of a play on words here.
- 17:40But when you remember something, it's because it was dismembered
- 17:46first. In other words, there was a
- 17:49separation of its members that now is being remembered
- 17:55together. You cut your finger off, your
- 17:57finger was dismembered from your body, but then that you are able
- 18:02to remember it to your body while it's being sewn on and
- 18:06being healed and restored. That's a little bit of the idea.
- 18:10There is something in my union with God where I have missed the
- 18:13mark, I've sinned and now in my repentance that which has been
- 18:18severed or seared is now being remembered and re engaged,
- 18:23reconnected back with God and God says I will remember my
- 18:29covenant. What?
- 18:29What do we do at the Lord's Supper?
- 18:31We remember ourselves to the body of Christ.
- 18:35We reintegrate together as a body, as a family, as a unit, as
- 18:42in union with Christ because of his body broken and his blood
- 18:47poured out. And so there is a remembrance
- 18:50and repentance is God's provision for helping us get
- 18:55remembered within his covenant where God says, OK, repentance
- 18:59has happened. I'm going to remember you into
- 19:02my covenant, reattach you into my covenant, reengage you into
- 19:06the covenant blessings, and allow you to re participate in
- 19:10this covenant union that we have together.
- 19:13I don't think God expects perfection.
- 19:15He knows too much really. Like God knows all things, so he
- 19:19knows we're not going to be perfect.
- 19:20But I do think God expects us to return to him again and again
- 19:26because repentance restores our union with him.
- 19:30So I don't think we need to be afraid of repentance.
- 19:32I don't think we need to hide from repentance.
- 19:34I send him the message because God is holy and holiness is an
- 19:39invitation into intimacy. We need to be quick to repent,
- 19:44be quick to repent, be quick to acknowledge, Oh, I misstepped.
- 19:48Oh, that wasn't that wasn't on target with the life of God.
- 19:52That wasn't the way the people of God as a person in the family
- 19:55of God and incoming of God, I should have treated another
- 19:58human being. I should have posted about
- 19:59another person that I said the wrong thing.
- 20:02I did the wrong thing. Even if it wasn't entirely my
- 20:05fault. There's still repentance to say
- 20:07hi. That's.
- 20:08I want to reconnect back in union with God and not disengage
- 20:12from God. We need to be quick to repent so
- 20:16that the line of intimacy and the closeness that we can have
- 20:19with God can be restored. Repentance leads to God
- 20:24remembering His covenant with us.
- 20:25There's a restoration that takes place with in our interaction
- 20:30and within the relationship. Repentance repairs the
- 20:36relationship, sin damages the relationship.
- 20:42So repentance repairs the relationship.
- 20:47The last kind of extra thing I wanted to say in this reality is
- 20:54and to talk through is kind of the chiastic structure of
- 20:59Leviticus. I mentioned it kind of briefly
- 21:01at the beginning of our message, kind of how it's how it goes up
- 21:04one way and it kind of loops back and it crosses back down
- 21:07the other way. It's kind of like this, this,
- 21:09this big line that kind of XS, if you will, and, and, and
- 21:13Leviticus kind of provides a structure for something, but
- 21:18Jesus is the fulfillment of it and he provides the substance of
- 21:22the thing. Matthew 517 says that I do not
- 21:25think that I have come to abolish the law and the
- 21:27prophets. This is Jesus talking.
- 21:29He says, I've come not to abolish them, but to fulfill
- 21:33them. In other words, Jesus says, I've
- 21:35come to show you what it looks like to live in union with the
- 21:40Father and obey all of his commands.
- 21:43So Jesus was showing us in his life and lifestyle how to fully
- 21:49live out the law of God. The things that, and again we
- 21:53talked about how there is a moral law, a civic law and
- 21:57ceremonial law that Jesus came to fulfill and live those live
- 22:01those out. Acts 1339 says, and by him mean
- 22:05Jesus, everyone who believes is freed from everything from which
- 22:11you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
- 22:15And there's another part in Romans, I think it says that
- 22:17that we've been freed from the law of sin and death because his
- 22:21Spirit has set us free. So we've been freed from the law
- 22:25of sin and death because his Spirit has set us free into life
- 22:30and liberty in him. And so everyone who believes in
- 22:33Jesus, who trusts in him, everyone who has given their
- 22:37allegiance and trust and loyalty to the person of Jesus is freed
- 22:43from everything from which you could not be freed from by the
- 22:47law of Moses in Galatians 324 says it like this.
- 22:51The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ that we might be
- 22:56justified by our loyalty, by our allegiance to him.
- 23:02So our faith in him, our trust in Jesus.
- 23:05And so the law that that we read in Leviticus that we've been
- 23:08reading, right? Like all of these laws that that
- 23:11are expounded on in the 10 commandments, all of the moral
- 23:14law, all of the civic law, all of the ceremonial law, the law
- 23:19were our tutor. They were instructing us to live
- 23:23in a direction to bring us ultimately to Christ, that we
- 23:28might be justified by faith in Christ.
- 23:32And this is what we see in Leviticus.
- 23:34It teaches us that sin requires atonement, that God is holy,
- 23:38that life must be ordered around his presence, that worship is
- 23:41rightly ordered, bodies are rightly honored, sex is rightly
- 23:44practiced, money is rightly stewarded, justice rightly
- 23:48administered, and community must be rightly shaped.
- 23:52That's what we saw in the laws of Leviticus in the New
- 23:57Testament. It doesn't shrink this vision,
- 24:00it deepens it and it globalizes it even where where external
- 24:04regulations of Leviticus become internal regeneration by the
- 24:09Spirit. The national covenant of the
- 24:12people of Israel has now transitioned into the global
- 24:16Kingdom of God. That the animal blood that was
- 24:20used in the Old Testament transitions into the blood of
- 24:24Christ once and for all. We see in the New Testament that
- 24:29Christ is the final atonement, that holiness is Spirit
- 24:33empowered, that the Kingdom fulfilled is is fulfilling
- 24:37Israel's calling. That jubilee becomes the
- 24:40salvation of God's people, that the temple becomes his people
- 24:45gathered together, that the sacrifice has become the cross
- 24:49of Christ, and that the law becomes written on the hearts of
- 24:53all men who are being renewed in the Spirit.
- 24:57So, So what started in One Direction, it's the pinnacle of
- 25:03the atoning work of Christ on the cross and comes back down in
- 25:08a new way through life in the spirit.
- 25:11Leviticus chiastic structure is is is exactly that.
- 25:17It crosses up and then there's a point in a pinnacle where it
- 25:20crosses back on the way on the way down.
- 25:23The the word chiasm comes from the Glee Greek letter chi, which
- 25:28is often symbolized symbolized with an XI.
- 25:32Found this really interesting. If you remember I've said
- 25:35before, X kind of marks the spot of love on the cross.
- 25:41X is the spot you have a cross to be tilted sideways.
- 25:45It's an X. And if you look at chiastic
- 25:48structure, it's like 1 long line and another long line, and where
- 25:51it intersects is the point where it would go up in One Direction
- 25:55and begin coming down in the other direction.
- 25:58X marks the spot. X is the cross of Christ.
- 26:02It's the symbol of an X, the letter chi.
- 26:05The that the chiastic structure of Leviticus is literally
- 26:09pointing us to the person of Jesus in the New Testament,
- 26:13fulfillment of all of those things.
- 26:15And at the pinnacle, at the turning point of it all is
- 26:19Christ redeeming work and atoning work on the cross,
- 26:23cleansing and purifying the people of God.
- 26:26Now you know when I say a chiasm, it's said the same way.
- 26:29It's like saying it one way and then saying it the same in
- 26:32reverse. So it would be similar to when
- 26:36they would say things like when the going gets tough, the tough
- 26:39get going. That's a chiastic statement.
- 26:43It's a chiasm. When the going gets tough, the
- 26:46tough get going. It's one way and then back again
- 26:50the other way. Or said it this way, think about
- 26:53let Leviticus kind of pointing towards the person of Jesus.
- 26:59God became man in Christ and in Christ man can then come to God.
- 27:06So God came to man in Christ and in Christ man can come to God.
- 27:13It's this way and then that way. And it kind of makes this, this,
- 27:17this loopy X kind of like if you think of like a, a remembrance
- 27:23ribbon, right? It goes up one way comes back
- 27:26another. And that pinnacle point that's
- 27:28the the chiastic structure now in the New Testament in the 1st
- 27:34century church, when believers would meet each other and it was
- 27:37kind of underground, if you will, worth because it was
- 27:40illegal to to kind of be a Christian and they were being
- 27:42persecuted. If you were trying to figure out
- 27:45if you were talking to a person of the way, often times in the
- 27:49sand in the conversation, they were just kind of with their
- 27:51foot dust a line and kind of begin a kind of a loop or a
- 27:56single line on the on the on the on the ground.
- 28:01And if the person they were talking to was also a follower
- 28:04of Jesus, they would then take their their sandal and they
- 28:07would make kind of an XA swooping X off that off that
- 28:13very thing, that very first line.
- 28:16They would kind of make a swoop and a connecting line, kind of
- 28:19curl up and over and crossover their line, kind of putting an X
- 28:24on the the ground. And, and because they kind of
- 28:28looped it, it kind of would make what was known as the iksu
- 28:31symbol of a fish, right? That that fish symbol, that
- 28:34sharp open-ended tail crossing lines together and a loop kind
- 28:40of connecting the two XS together on the ground, if you
- 28:43will. It was this symbol that they
- 28:46would use to identify themselves of being marked by Christ.
- 28:50That X marks the spot where two Christians would stand and have
- 28:54conversation and no one else would know that they were both
- 28:58followers of Christ. It identified them some way.
- 29:00Listen, it's the cross of Jesus Christ that we trust in Him and
- 29:05his atoning word, that His atonement marks us as people of
- 29:11God who have been made holy and acceptable because of the work
- 29:18of Christ. So we fix our eyes on Jesus,
- 29:21this X that marks the spot, this ichthus fish, this this Jesus
- 29:25fish, as it's been kind of lovingly referred to through the
- 29:28ages. But this idea that that we are
- 29:31marked by the cross of Christ and it atones for us like the
- 29:37blood put in an X on Passover over the doorpost in Exodus.
- 29:42The blood of Christ kind of marks us, puts an X on us if you
- 29:47will, so that we are holy and acceptable to God.
- 29:52And when we act contrary to the new life of Christ, we can
- 29:57repent and be remembered back in union with God and be marked by
- 30:03people who are carriers of His presence.
- 30:06We can experience the transforming work of God that we
- 30:10are Spirit empowered. And that Spirit empowered in the
- 30:14New Testament. As New Testament believers man,
- 30:16we experience the fullness of Christ.
- 30:19Leviticus set up the structure. Jesus became the substance of
- 30:24all of it. And so much is happening in the
- 30:27book of Leviticus that points us to the person of Jesus who
- 30:32fulfilled it all. And at the point of it all
- 30:36brings atonement and redemption for us, Making it possible so
- 30:40that we can live as priests, that we can live clean and and
- 30:45wholly before the Lord, and that we can live in rhythms of
- 30:49obedience that allow us to be in close proximity in the Kingdom
- 30:53of God. And when we are disobedient to
- 30:55the commands of God, we can repent and be remembered in to
- 31:01as as members of and one in union with God.
- 31:07Even when sin misses the mark and causes to live out of the
- 31:12union of God, we can repent and be re engaged in the
- 31:15relationship, reconnected in our relationship with God.
- 31:20All right, there are five questions I want to respond to
- 31:24in today's episode. Question number one, is it
- 31:28possible to live the good life that God has for us if we don't
- 31:33read and study his word? Can't we just live our lives by
- 31:37common sense? I think we can live our lives by
- 31:42common sense and we should utilize common sense for sure.
- 31:46But common sense or our own knowledge of good and evil will
- 31:51not produce eternal life in us. It will not produce God life in
- 31:57us. It will only produce our best
- 31:59self-made life. And that while it might be
- 32:03sustainable and successful by worldly standards, does not give
- 32:08us entrance into the Kingdom of God.
- 32:11And so I don't believe that we can live a life of union with
- 32:15God if we don't ever get to know God.
- 32:20And that I think it's really, really clear through Scripture.
- 32:22We get to know God through 2 main ways.
- 32:25We get to know God through his Word and through his people who
- 32:30embody his word. So I think we live our lives
- 32:34embodying the Word of God, living out the commands of God
- 32:37that helps people understand God, then they get to know God
- 32:41for themselves in His Word. So no, I don't think we can
- 32:46experience the life of God without God, which means we need
- 32:50to get to know God as we build relationship with God.
- 32:56Question number 2. When believers miss the mark,
- 32:59they sin. Does that hurt more than our
- 33:01communion with the Trinity, with Father, Son, and Spirit?
- 33:05Yes, it definitely does. We we talked a little bit about
- 33:08it in the in the message and I definitely talked about it some
- 33:10in today's episode. It definitely has ramifications
- 33:15beyond just us and beyond just our relationship with God.
- 33:20It can cause damage to other relationships.
- 33:23If you remember in the message, the 2 two points that we talked
- 33:26about, sin separates people in God and then sin damages human
- 33:32relationships because no one really sends kind of in a vacuum
- 33:37or in their own little bubble Many times, most times it
- 33:41ripples to impact, to impact others.
- 33:45I mean, we use the example of lying, how lying just has
- 33:47natural consequences that break apart trusting relationships.
- 33:52Well, that's that's damaging relationship.
- 33:54That's not good. I don't think you have to look
- 33:56very far in society and culture to see when trust erodes in
- 34:02leadership and structures or in systems or in governments, how
- 34:06that creates chaos and broken relationships within a
- 34:10community. No one sends in a vacuum like
- 34:13those decisions have ripple effects that deteriorate the
- 34:18relationship. Take for example slander.
- 34:23Slander doesn't just hurt your walk with God, it it's bearing
- 34:27false witness about others. So when we say slanderous
- 34:32things, when we gossip, when we lie like we are the all of those
- 34:36things are represented in the the command.
- 34:40Do not bear false witness against another.
- 34:44That's not just lying, that's slanderously painting a picture
- 34:48about someone's character besmirched and who they are
- 34:50making them. You might be trying to speak the
- 34:53truth about something, but then when you paint an entire group
- 34:56of people to when you racially profile a whole group of people,
- 34:59that it doesn't really relate to the slanderous or the, the
- 35:04accusation that's being hurled. You, you are bearing false
- 35:07witness against others. And, and that slander doesn't
- 35:12just hurt your walk with other people, It hurts your walk with
- 35:15God and it hurts your walk with God and it hurts relationships
- 35:19with other people. So when we missed the mark of
- 35:23union with God, of living the life that God has for us and
- 35:26living in accordance with the commands of God, it hurts our
- 35:32relationship with God, it hurts our relationships with others,
- 35:35and it does damage to us as as well.
- 35:39It hinders the life that God wants us to walk in from
- 35:43flourishing and growing. Question #3 if Jesus fulfilled
- 35:49the law, what does obedience actually look like for
- 35:53Christians today, especially in areas like justice, sexuality,
- 35:58or economics? Well, I think we have to first
- 36:01look at the teachings and life of Jesus and then the teaching
- 36:06of the apostles later in the New Testament.
- 36:07So we see things about justice, right?
- 36:12That justice is, is blind in the sense of it's not prejudice
- 36:16driven, it's not financially driven.
- 36:19It's there is a standard and that standard is consistent
- 36:24across the board. There there's no moving the
- 36:26standard, which is a lot of times what Jesus got onto the,
- 36:29the the Pharisees for because they were being hypocritical.
- 36:33They were holding standards for some people at one place and
- 36:37then for themselves in a different place.
- 36:38Like, like that doesn't work where we're trying to use
- 36:41standards to crush people, to control people to, to make
- 36:45people. That's not walking injustice.
- 36:47That's not holding to the standard of, of God.
- 36:50So we don't want to live hypocritically with others where
- 36:55we hold ourselves to a standard, then they stand and we don't
- 36:57want to, that's injustice. We don't want to, to have
- 37:00justice systems that are like that.
- 37:02We don't, we don't want that's not living the way of of the
- 37:05Kingdom of God, sexuality. Paul writes explicitly on this.
- 37:10Jesus talks about it, right, Like there are ways in which
- 37:13what we do with our body, it matters what we do with our
- 37:17sexuality, it matters for living a flourishing life.
- 37:22Again, you can do things outside of the bounds of God and think
- 37:27you're having fun or think you're doing it in freedom, but
- 37:31you're actually doing damage to a life that God would rather see
- 37:36you live a life of flourishing. I use the example of if you take
- 37:39a Lamborghini that was built for Hwy. speeds and race tracks and
- 37:44you take it and go mudding off roading, well, you're going to
- 37:48do some things. There'll be some fun.
- 37:50You'll see some movement and you're definitely having an
- 37:54expression of freedom, but that freedom is going to create some
- 37:58damage to your vehicle. It's not going to get very, it's
- 38:02not because it's not intended for that.
- 38:04And so when we take the things that God has intended and set up
- 38:08as creator, and he said this is the best way to live
- 38:11economically, best way to live sexually, best way to live with
- 38:14justice. Again, every area of our life,
- 38:17how to live politically, how to live socially, how to live as a
- 38:20parent, how to live spiritually. And we take them into our own
- 38:24hands, doing it our own way. And we call it freedom.
- 38:28We're actually just doing damage to our own heart, our own soul.
- 38:30So when it comes to generosity and giving and putting God
- 38:34first, the Scripture talks about those things.
- 38:37So, so there are ways in which we live out the teachings of
- 38:41Jesus modeled by the life of Jesus and the teaching of the
- 38:45New Testament to specifically to the, the epistles that were
- 38:50written. Well, that's when we start to
- 38:52integrate those things into our life.
- 38:54We start living in the direction of God.
- 38:57We live in his direction and that allows us to live in union
- 39:00with him and in living with union with him, we experience
- 39:03life and life to the full life abundant.
- 39:07So you take each of those and it matters with what the Scripture
- 39:11says and you, you look at how to integrate those things and into
- 39:16your life. Question #4 how do we pursue
- 39:21holiness without drifting into legalism or self righteousness
- 39:26#1 we have to recognize that we need to grow in love for God and
- 39:31intentional acts of loyalty before God.
- 39:36So we want to live loyal lives toward Jesus, toward the Father,
- 39:43toward in the spirit. We don't want to live in the
- 39:44flesh. We live in the Spirit, the
- 39:45scripture says and and we got to grow in love.
- 39:48And and I said in the message, anytime you are doing things for
- 39:53God, but you miss out on love of God, but you're stop loving him
- 39:58with all your heart. So mind and strength.
- 40:00Well then you're going to end up in legalism.
- 40:02Every time where you start to control, try try to control
- 40:05outcomes and you try to control other people's behavior.
- 40:09That's when you start living with self righteousness.
- 40:11When you start looking down your nose at other people's behavior
- 40:15without awareness of their struggle or awareness of their
- 40:18patterns or what God's working on their hard end, and you start
- 40:21judging those things inaccurately or in a skewed
- 40:26manner. Well, you're in danger of moving
- 40:29in a direction of, of loyal of of, of of a lack of love and
- 40:34living with legalism. I think we need to be what what
- 40:38keeps us kind of pursuing holiness without drifting into
- 40:42legalism or self righteousness is we repent often because
- 40:46you're not going to do it perfect.
- 40:48I'm not going to do so Repent often and quickly.
- 40:52I love David's line and and Psalm 51 little created me a
- 40:55clean heart renew a steadfast a steady faithful spirit in me.
- 41:00Don't take your spirit from my presence, Lord, I cast me not
- 41:04away from those things. I don't want to leave your
- 41:06presence. I don't want to leave union with
- 41:08you. I think we need to repent often.
- 41:10We need to repent quickly and we need to point the finger never.
- 41:16Like it's not about pointing it. I I think we need to use God's
- 41:21word as a mirror rather than a window through which we're
- 41:25examining other people. I think it needs to be a mirror
- 41:28for our soul and not a magnifying glass that we put
- 41:31under that we put someone else under.
- 41:34That doesn't mean that we can't articulate when evil is
- 41:38happening, but you can articulate that something isn't
- 41:44holy without condemning fully the person or or without
- 41:50condemning or being slanderous about their character.
- 41:54You can say an action was unholy without trying to besmirched
- 41:59them or add to it, Right? Like to say that was a mistake
- 42:03without saying that was a mistake and they're an idiot and
- 42:06therefore they're a racist and they are like, you don't have to
- 42:09add that other stuff. You can just acknowledge that.
- 42:11I don't think that was right. I don't think that was holy.
- 42:14I don't think that was right. You can acknowledge that without
- 42:18condemning others or, or, or putting someone in a place that
- 42:22writes them off out of the mercy of God.
- 42:25No, no. So we want to repent often.
- 42:27We want to use God's word as a mirror and we want to, we want
- 42:31to feed and foster our love and our passion for God.
- 42:35I've heard it said that holiness isn't really a line that you
- 42:40cross, or purity in our lives isn't necessarily a line that
- 42:43you cross, rather, it's a direction you go with your life.
- 42:46So. So if we're trying to figure out
- 42:50how far can we get to a line of without crossing over into sin,
- 42:54I think we're asking the wrong question.
- 42:57It's not about having linear lines that keep everything neat
- 43:00and controllable in our lives. Rather, holiness is about
- 43:05pursuing God in honest, humble love.
- 43:09Which means we're quick to repent, we're quick to give our
- 43:12adoration and Thanksgiving to God, and we want our lives
- 43:15moving in His direction. Not how far can I get from God
- 43:19without crossing a line and still be good.
- 43:22I think that transactional approach does not work.
- 43:27Finally, last question, in a divided cultural moment like
- 43:31we're in today, how can we uphold biblical justice and
- 43:36dignity while still holding firm convictions about what is true
- 43:41or the laws, what is legal? So I think this is a great
- 43:46question and, and, and I think we need to understand a couple
- 43:50things. First, we need to know what the
- 43:52Bible actually says. I am continually, I was going to
- 43:59say amazed, but honestly it's more disheartening for me.
- 44:04I am continually disheartened at the number of people who claim
- 44:10Christianity but don't really know what the Bible is actually
- 44:15saying on subjects or or they don't even think biblically,
- 44:21they're just thinking economically.
- 44:23They're thinking American first values as opposed to biblically
- 44:29first values, then national priorities.
- 44:35It it it amazes me how many people who are like Jesus is the
- 44:39only king but yet don't understand what it means to
- 44:42actually live with loyalty to a king in that way.
- 44:48So I think first we really do need to know what the Bible
- 44:51actually says about subjects and things.
- 44:55I, I, I, here's one that I see misquoted all the time.
- 45:00The Bible says that you, you fed me when I was poor, you visited
- 45:04me when I was there. You gave me a cup of cold water.
- 45:07What you've done to the least of these you've done to me.
- 45:10And then we kind of map that onto any kind of situation
- 45:15socially that we think so. Well, let's take immigration
- 45:18again. Well, you gave them a cup of
- 45:20cold water. You visited them in prison.
- 45:22You did these things. Therefore you're doing it for
- 45:24Jesus. Actually, that's that's not a
- 45:27mapping 1:00 to 1:00 because that text that Jesus is using at
- 45:32the end of Matthew and in other parts of the Gospel where it
- 45:34records Jesus's teaching on that, He's actually talking
- 45:38about how you treat brothers and sisters of Christ who are out
- 45:43sharing and spreading the gospel message.
- 45:46How do you treat traveling preachers?
- 45:49How do you treat the people? How do you treat the apostles
- 45:53who are traveling from village to village bringing the good
- 45:56news of the Kingdom? And if you mistreat them, Jesus
- 46:00says you're mistreating me as my messengers.
- 46:03So it's not just any least of these that we want to look at.
- 46:07It's not just any no, I think there are still principles that
- 46:10we can look at. Like doesn't give you permission
- 46:12to be a jerk to anyone. But specifically what Jesus was
- 46:16talking about in context was more specifically, how do you
- 46:20treat brothers and sisters in the faith, not how do you treat
- 46:24any human being at any point in time.
- 46:27It's just not interpreting the scripture correctly.
- 46:32And, and again, we, we toss those scriptures around so quick
- 46:35and, and, and, and on one hand, it's like great, good, good try
- 46:39on the Bible. In fact, there's a yeah, I'm
- 46:42going to say it. There is a, someone in politics
- 46:46right now on the left and his videos are viral all the time.
- 46:50And he's kind of famous for like, here's what the Bible says
- 46:53about this. And if you say this, this and
- 46:55this, but yet you're not adding this, this and this.
- 46:57And then he's using the Bible to score political points.
- 47:01And, and it sounds really smooth and, and, and slithery sounds
- 47:05really, really slick how he says it.
- 47:08And it sounds really intelligent and almost biblical.
- 47:11The problem is he's just taking every scripture out of context
- 47:15and not applying it properly and not applying it across the
- 47:18board. I think he maybe has some
- 47:22desires that are. I'm just saying he's using the
- 47:25Bible to dismantle certain elements of culture that I just
- 47:32don't. I think he's using the Bible
- 47:33incorrectly. I don't think he's interpreting
- 47:37it correctly. I think we need to know what the
- 47:40Bible actually says. I think that's really important.
- 47:42Second, I think we need to properly apply what the Bible
- 47:46says to those areas of life in a proper way.
- 47:50I said on Sunday in the message when we're looking at how Israel
- 47:54in a civic nation was being set up as a one God only nation, as
- 48:01a God special people, the way God set it up in treating the
- 48:06resident alien that we need to understand principles more than
- 48:13try to find parallels. In other words, it's not an
- 48:17exact one to one. Well, this is what God told
- 48:19Israel to do in the Old Testament and therefore this is
- 48:21what the United States needs to do exactly.
- 48:23I That's not good biblical interpretation because the New
- 48:27Testament fulfillment and parallel to Israel is an
- 48:31America. It's not, it's the church.
- 48:36So we first have to understand that we're not looking at
- 48:39parallels, but we do want to see the principles that when we
- 48:43understand the principle underneath the specific command,
- 48:48we can then begin to filter and approach life through that
- 48:53principle that helps us move in a direction that is God
- 48:58honoring. Third, we have to have humility
- 49:04in our cultural moments. We got to be slow to speak, slow
- 49:10to get angry, but quick to listen.
- 49:13We need humility, not hubris. We need humility, not more hard
- 49:25hitting tweets. There's not a single post you're
- 49:28going to make that's going to settle the debate.
- 49:30We need humility. James Foer is really clear in a
- 49:34divisive cultural moment. He says to the people who have
- 49:36Do you know why there are fights and quarrels among you?
- 49:39He says 2 reasons. One, because you're your pride,
- 49:42your arrogance and your selfish desires.
- 49:45They rage, war and you haven't learned to control them.
- 49:50And when you live in pride, Scripture is really clear.
- 49:52God resists the probability, gives grace to the humble.
- 49:55So many times in our arguments, in our division, we're actually
- 49:59living in arrogance. Therefore we are outside of
- 50:03God's grace reaching us in those actions.
- 50:06Those actions do not carry with it the healing, transformative
- 50:10grace of God to bring about people into the Kingdom of God,
- 50:14to help reconcile them back to the heart of God.
- 50:16We are just out trying to score cheap points and say what we
- 50:19want to say and we want to be snide, we want to be slanderous,
- 50:23we want to be sharp tongued. We often try to to speak our way
- 50:27about things and really we're just, we're not helping because
- 50:32we're not walking in humility in any way, shape or form.
- 50:35And so even when we want justice, we're not humble enough
- 50:39to be dignifying in the process. And we're still, we're trying to
- 50:43hold to a conviction of truth and what is legal and what is
- 50:46light, but we're not actually doing it in a kind way.
- 50:50And so we're, we're, we're being more condemning and talking
- 50:54about how to uphold the law. And, and I think we, we find
- 50:57ourselves outside of God's grace at work in, in US.
- 51:02Fourth, I think we accept, I think we, we don't need to
- 51:07accept current political ideals as fully representing or
- 51:12implementing biblical teachings right now.
- 51:13I, I, I don't think that there is anyone like it's not a
- 51:19wholesale support of right, like not everything of the Republican
- 51:24platform and party is wholesale and fully representing and
- 51:28implementing all of the biblical ideas and teachings.
- 51:30It's just not right now. Same thing with the left.
- 51:32They are not now. I think there are more biblical
- 51:36principles and motivations in some of the conservative things
- 51:40than you would see in the liberal just in terms of amount
- 51:42and quality of what will produce a more God honoring life in the
- 51:47in the end. But it's not the only thing that
- 51:50that eat. They're not so.
- 51:52So what I was saying on Sunday is like, listen, as a pastor,
- 51:55my, my job is not to try to speak for a political pundit or
- 51:59or promote any specific party, but rather to speak
- 52:02prophetically. That causes our hearts to be
- 52:06drawn back to God and to the Bible to point everyone back to
- 52:09the heart of God, not in partisan politics, which which
- 52:12means that there are times that I will look and I will, I will
- 52:15look at things in the Republican Party and those that that that
- 52:18are conservative. And I'll say, guys, that's not
- 52:21an attitude that reflects Christ.
- 52:24And then I'll, I'll look on the other side.
- 52:25So guys, that is not a policy that's actually going to promote
- 52:28human flourishing because it is so contrary to the life of God,
- 52:33so contrary to the way God has structured life.
- 52:36It is so much off roading, man, you're going to create
- 52:39destruction to the vehicle of life in that way, to the vehicle
- 52:43of society in that way. And so we we need to be able to
- 52:46say with nuance, with care, with with understanding that tension
- 52:50exists to hold things that are simultaneous at the same time.
- 52:54In other words, I can say I think ICE needs to be able to
- 52:59execute and carry out the the laws within our land and at the
- 53:05same time say they don't need to do it with unnecessary force,
- 53:09brutality, or based on just suspicion.
- 53:12That's causing more damage to the very people they are
- 53:16proclaiming. They're there to actually
- 53:19protect the laws and serve as an agent of the law.
- 53:23Well, the laws are put in place in any land to protect its
- 53:27citizens. And when we acted so, so we can
- 53:31hold two things to be true at once.
- 53:33I can say that, man, I, I want immigrants in our land and at
- 53:38the same time say I want immigrants to come in safely, to
- 53:42come in in a streamline way, to come in a simple way and to come
- 53:46in and legal. I think that's perfectly fair to
- 53:49say, man, I want them. I love that there are multiple
- 53:51languages represented and multiple cultures represented in
- 53:55our nation. You know why?
- 53:56Because I actually think it's a better picture of heaven.
- 53:59If you can't stand other languages, you're going to hate
- 54:02heaven. You're just going to hate it
- 54:04because every tribe, tongue and language is going to be present
- 54:07in and is present in the body of Christ.
- 54:10And so when I have a Kingdom first mentality, I, I don't get
- 54:13upset about those things. I don't get caught into those
- 54:16things. So when you have the heart of
- 54:17God and you understand the Kingdom of God and, and it is
- 54:20the Kingdom of God first and my citizenship is there first.
- 54:23And I want to, my job is to not necessarily colonize the world
- 54:27in an American way, but my job is to colonize the world in
- 54:30which I live in the land that I live in a, in a Christ oriented
- 54:34way to help people connect back to Christ.
- 54:37Well, that's my priority. That's my passion, that's my
- 54:39purpose. I think we can acknowledge it.
- 54:43And I tried to do my best on Sunday to acknowledge like the
- 54:45immigration, it's a real problem and it is chaotic in our world
- 54:50right now. It is heartbreaking.
- 54:53I can grieve with families who are having their lives disrupted
- 54:59because of choices that family members made to come into a
- 55:04country illegally. I can still grieve and say,
- 55:06gosh, that is so hard. That is so disheartening.
- 55:10At the same time, I can recognize that justice isn't is
- 55:14a matter, so I can do it dignifying.
- 55:16I also can sit back and say not every person who is here in our
- 55:20country based on the color of their skin needs to be pulled
- 55:24over by agents and just questioned ad nauseam and and
- 55:28being arrested and then justified later.
- 55:31I think we can do better. I think they should do better.
- 55:34I hope that we become better in this process where they're
- 55:39trying to carry out the the law. I also can look a new nuanced
- 55:42enough and say that not every ICE agent is is demonized like
- 55:47violent person or some rate like man.
- 55:50Some of these men and women that they're just trying to carry out
- 55:53instructions that they were given, trying to uphold the laws
- 55:56and and do it in a in a good way.
- 55:57And they're kind and they're benevolent and they're loving
- 56:00and they're all of those things. So just because it's happening
- 56:02in one space or by one person doesn't mean it all.
- 56:05Same thing is true that there are people in our country who
- 56:07have different nationalities who, who, who are here not only
- 56:11illegally, but they, they are, they are evil people who have
- 56:15done evil things and done irreparable harm both in this
- 56:18land and other lands. And, and I pray that justice
- 56:21would be served and things would be there.
- 56:23I can hold some sensibility into things.
- 56:26Scripture says that we can rejoice with those who rejoice
- 56:29and we can grieve with those who grieve.
- 56:31We can hold both. So how do we live in a cultural
- 56:34divided moment upholding biblical justice and and dignity
- 56:39at the same time? I think we have to 1st we have
- 56:42to get a clear picture that people are made in the image of
- 56:44God and just from a human perspective deserve some
- 56:49dignity. And you can still rejoice when
- 56:54the truth wins out when justice is done.
- 56:57You can still be glad that justice being done and at the
- 57:01same time want and long for justice to be done in dignifying
- 57:06ways without putting people whole categories into groupings
- 57:10that aren't helpful and at times just blatantly racist in its
- 57:14undertone and thought process. To support both sides of things
- 57:20and to want compassion to win out and truth to win out all at
- 57:24the same times again. People who commit crimes, they
- 57:27need to face the consequences, but dehumanizing language isn't
- 57:32needed nor is brutality required in most cases to carry out those
- 57:37consequences. So we can hold a nuance and
- 57:41attention of both and when we see biblically the right way to
- 57:47move forward. And so in the message I outlined
- 57:50some of what that looks like around immigration.
- 57:53How do we apply that? How do we integrate that?
- 57:55How do we even think biblically on the subject?
- 57:59And there's a lot more conversations that could be had.
- 58:02And it certainly wasn't meant to be like a a final and a
- 58:05conversation, but but hopefully gives us some things to wrestle
- 58:09with and look at and not try to respond to emotionally.
- 58:12Not try to respond to in terms of like the the dogmatic way of
- 58:17thinking in a political sense, but gives us some, some, some
- 58:21checks in our hearts to prayerfully take before the Lord
- 58:24and ask the Lord to check our hearts and to bring us anchored
- 58:28to Scripture in the way in which we go about living in this land
- 58:34because we are citizens of the Kingdom 1st.
- 58:37And he gets our loyalty and our love above all, above all else
- 58:42and a God. When God's people flourish,
- 58:46society flourishes around them. And so we want to flourish first
- 58:51living God's ways with God's heart and knowing that has
- 58:54ripple effects as we grow from from there.
- 58:58Friends, thanks for watching. Thanks for tuning in.
- 59:01I hope this episode has helped you have some loyalty, some
- 59:04trust in Jesus even late in the week beyond a Sunday.
- 59:09Hope it helps you have faith for today.
- 59:11We'll catch you next week, everybody.