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#281: Psycho Beach Party (2000) - Tubi or Not to Be · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? I'm no mere chick, I'm a
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goddess, and the first thing I'm going to do is sacrifice your
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balls. Sunny, welcome to What's your
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least favorite scary movie? The podcast where we talk about
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the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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favorite and least. Favorite.
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Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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movie rightfully has his fan base.
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Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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My name is Jesse and welcome back to our monthly bonus series
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Mind. Well, I was a little bit caught
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off guard by that intro there in this room.
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Like it vibrated off of 1 of the pieces of equipment in here.
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I just heard it ringing for a little bit like whoa.
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You know, the entrance we've done 281 Times Now.
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It's like, wait, was I supposed to say I'm sorry?
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Yeah, yeah, we're fucked up a little bit today, which is good
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because this is a good time to be fucked up.
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So we're doing Tubi or Not to Be.
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This is our monthly bonus series where we go to free streaming
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and we check out a movie we have not already seen and may not
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have already seen because sometimes some movies just end
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up on the free streaming services and get a little bit
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lost to time. Yeah, and I feel like Tubi, you
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can find a lot of the really, I guess not like super widely
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known stuff. It's just like you can find like
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these weird little gems in there.
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Yeah. So that's what we do.
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We go scouring through all this shit and we find some good shit,
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I hope. Yes.
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Yes. OK so today I got to pick for
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this month's episode and I picked a little movie called
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Psycho Beach Party. Indeed you did.
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Yeah, so we don't do any of our normal stuff because this is a
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bonus episode, so we are going to go right on into this thing.
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Are you ready? I am OK.
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So Psycho Beach Party released January 23rd, 2000.
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It premiered at Sundance, had its at wide release September
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7th, 2001 and days before. Maybe that is a thing that had
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it probably had that stacked against its release here.
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Yeah. So anyways, yeah.
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That's a dramatic, unfortunate time to have any kind of a
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release. Yeah, there's a lot of things
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like. There's a lot of things like it
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kind of suffered like that. The Strokes had their first
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album come out around that time too.
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All right, back on track. We watched it on TV.
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That's where you can watch it. It's written by Charles Bush.
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He did the play and screenplay. So this is actually a movie
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based on a play directed by Robert Lee King, music by Ben
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Vaughn and the special effects. We don't really have a team for
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that, but I did the visual effects person and that's Rick
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Kerrigan. So I will cast Warren Ambrose as
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Florence Chiclet Force, Thomas Gibson as Kanaka, Nicholas
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Brendan as Star Cat, Kimberly Davies as Bettina Barnes, Matt
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Keesler as Lars, Charles Bush as Captain Monica Stark, Beth
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Broderick as Miss Ruth Forrest, Danny Wheeler as Birdine, Nick
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Cornish as Yo-yo, Andrew La Vitas as Provolone, Amy Adams as
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Marvel Ann and Buddy Quaid as Junior.
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It's a heck of a stacked cast. It's a pretty fucking wild cast
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right here. All right, time for a favorite
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game on the show. Budget bug Ted.
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I'm gonna go with Bud Bug Ted. Yeah, I actually do have numbers
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for this. Surprisingly, it's 1.5 million.
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OK, Yeah, not not a bad little budget for this thing.
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Opening box office 21,000 worldwide gross 268,000.
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OK, IMDb score 6 out of $10 Yes. OK, Yeah, not.
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Good. I was all nervous.
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OK, so. I have three other movies that
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are released in 2000 and I have a theme that I think fits this
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movie. It's dudes doing drag.
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OK, yeah, each of these movies feature a little bit of that
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going on. 1st movie Cherry Falls, so I'm not going to go
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into detail about where that happens in there because I don't
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want to spoil the movie for anybody that hasn't seen it, but
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it does feature that we have an episode on it if anybody wants
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to listen to that. So go back, it wasn't that long
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ago that released August 25th, 2000 in the UK.
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It actually is a 1999 movie, but I had to make this fit.
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Oh, I do that all the time. Yeah, budget of $14 million,
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don't have a worldwide gross. If you want to know about that,
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go to our episode IMDb 5.3 out of 10.
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OK, that's a, it's a wow. It's it's a fever dream.
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That's really the only way I can describe it to people.
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Also, I'm sorry if I sound like I'm lisping.
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I did that common mistake of overheating something in the
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microwave and the roof of my mouth is burnt.
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Yeah, I hate that. So I'm like hearing it in my own
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head. So I don't know how much is
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coming through on mic. I don't hear it.
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OK. You're good. 2nd movie Scary
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Movie Scary Movie came out July 7th, 2000.
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Budget of $19 million worldwide gross 278 million IMDb 6.3 on
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almost set on IMDb. OK and the final movie Citizen
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Toxic The Toxic Avenger 4. Now I haven't seen this movie
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but I did see a scene where he goes under disguise in a bikini
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contest. So he dresses up in a bikini and
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he puts on a wig and he goes in and infiltrates that way.
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So that movie came out October 8th 2000.
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Budget of 500,000. Don't have the gross but the
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IMDb is 5.9. OK.
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Tag lines only got one party till you drop dead.
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Yeah, all right. And I don't have fun facts
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because we don't do that on to be or not to be people.
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This is a bonus episode, so we get right into the meat of it.
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Actually we don't because I have a little bit of information I
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want to share. So that's why you've been OK.
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Yeah. So I want to just take this
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second to remind everybody that during Pride month, we are
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covering movies that have some tie to some sort of LGBTQ topic,
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Project. That is where you can find that.
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But I did get a little bit curious last night because
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Charles Bush did portray Captain Stark.
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And I did a little bit of research on Charles Bush.
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So first of all, he not only did this as a play.
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Did you mention that? Yeah.
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OK. He performed as Chiclet in the
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original stage production. Yeah.
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And apparently he consistently, not always, but most of the time
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does perform in drag. And I've got a little bit of a
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quote in his plays, but she usually played the leading lady
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in drag, he said. Drag is being more, more than
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you can be. When I first started drag, I
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wasn't a shy young man, but a powerful woman.
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It liberated within me a whole vocabulary of expression.
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It was less a political statement than an aesthetic. 1
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His camp style show simultaneously send up and
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celebrate classic film genres, which I think we can see inside
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Kuku's party, Bush has said. However.
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I'm not sure what campy means, but I guess if my plays have
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elements of old movies and old fashioned plays and I'm this
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bigger than lifestyle lady, that's certainly campy.
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I guess what I rebelled against was the notion that campy means
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something is so tacky or bad that it's good, and that I just
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didn't relate to. So yeah, I don't think that's
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the case. No, no, I don't.
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That's not how I would qualify. You can't.
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Me neither. It's one of those things that
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it's kind of hard to describe, but you know it when you see it.
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That's the thing I've, I've always struggled to actually
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define it. But yeah, it's just like one,
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it's like a fill, yeah, type thing.
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You you fill it out. Yeah.
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So yeah, I just wanted to share that little bit because I
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thought that was interesting. I wouldn't say I went down a
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full rabbit hole because we're also recording our main episode
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this week and I was doing research on that as well.
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But I did, I did dig a little bit.
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Charles Bush has a whole website if you want to learn more about
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him. So just a little fun facts.
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Cool. All right, so thank you for
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doing a little bit of extra info for this one.
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OK, so I guess this is the part where I tell why I chose this
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movie for this month indeed. So I wanted to try and find
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something within the theme of our theme this month, which is
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Pride month. And it's really hard to do that
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for a movie you don't know anything about because the whole
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point of this is to, you know, do a movie that we've never seen
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before. So I just like went on to IMDb
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and I did like a special search for horror and gay and like, I
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got a bunch of things there. But The thing is, like, some of
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that stuff is like, you never know, like what extent it's
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gonna be. And I honestly didn't know the
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extent of it in this movie either.
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But like, I did see that we had somebody like a man playing a
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woman in this movie. So I was like, OK, that fits.
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And also I saw Nicholas Brennan and that I was like, that's
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pretty cool. And then I saw Amy Adams was
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like, OK, this seems like it's going to be really interesting.
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I like the name Psycho Beach Party, and it's just like a
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spoof on, you know, slashers and beach movies.
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And it seemed like it was going to be a good time.
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So I was like, fuck it, let's do that.
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Also a couple of names that I was really excited about, Lauren
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Ambrose and Thomas Gibson. And Lars is played by, I forget
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the is Keesler. Yeah, we have previously talked
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about him Better not on the show in Scream 3.
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He is the actor that plays the Dewey parallel in the Stab
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movies. Yeah, yeah, it's a wild, wild
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cast for this thing. So that's really cool.
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And yeah, I, you know, that's why I chose this.
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OK. All right, so let's do our good,
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bad, ugly and absurd. What you like about it?
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Oh my God, I think this is so it's so funny and it it it, it's
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not in an in your face kind of way.
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It just lets the humor speak for itself.
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I love the part like there, there are just like a lot of
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little moments that are really funny and really stand out.
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I think the cast, performances are all fantastic and this movie
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knows what it's doing. It knows it's a parody, it knows
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it's a spoof. And I think that's one of the
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great things about it, coming from a stage play that has
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probably been performed, edited, yeah, changed multiple times and
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then is being brought to the screen.
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So I think, and it's staying in the hands of the person who
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wrote it. I think that that's that helps
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it a lot. Yeah, it felt like the movie
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honestly played out like a play. Yeah.
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Like I felt like I was watching more of a play than a movie
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honestly. And I'm I'm generally OK with
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that. I think it worked for this style
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of movie I. Think it worked too, but
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generally I could take it or leave it type thing with that.
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Like if it's a play I'll watch a play, if I want to watch a
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movie, I'll watch a movie. You know what I mean?
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That's that's how I feel about a lot of Tyler Perry's movies,
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because he, I think he comes from like a theater background
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and a lot of his movies feel much more play like to me.
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And when I learned that he came from a theater background, I was
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like, oh, that explains it. Yeah.
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That's pretty. Crazy that that does make sense
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though. Is that all your goods?
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Sorry, I got really distracted. Yeah, I just, I had such a good
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time at this movie. Yeah, I was really surprised
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with how funny it was to like a lot of moments.
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I actually was laughing. I can't remember any specific
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moments. We'll get into those, I'm sure
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whenever we actually started talking about the movie.
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But like, they have a lot of funny characters in this.
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Yeah, everybody does a great job with acting, I think.
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Shit, what's your name? Warren Ambrose does a really,
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really good job playing three different people, essentially.
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Yeah. I don't know, man.
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Like, I can't really speak to the surf movies.
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I can't speak to the spoof, like if it's a good spoof or not,
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because I've never really watched any of those.
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And, you know, like, I do enjoy that part of this movie because
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it is really goofy and it's really fun, you know?
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I like that it doesn't take itself seriously.
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It's just, yeah, I don't know. It is a good time, All right?
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What's bad? I didn't love the ending.
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The ending is kind of harsh, man.
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The ending's kind of confused, so the whole thing spoilers,
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obviously. The whole thing is that Patina
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ends up buying the rights to the story and turns it into a movie,
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so whatever, we get that. But it ends with we're meant to
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believe that this is the true story of Florence or Chiclet or
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whatever name you want to use for her.
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But we saw how it played out in real time.
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But then we're meant to believe that the real story is that she
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was actually in the hospital, which means she wouldn't have
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met Patina at all. But then she's also in the back
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seat of the car. It's.
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Confusing because the the movie, it's like the movie within a
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movie. So I think we were watching like
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that was all part of the movie that they were watching because
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I that's a dream in that movie. That's so confusing.
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Yeah, I, I mean, honestly, it's, it's a little bit weird.
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Yeah, I don't like it either. I hate those little cop out
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endings where it's like, and none of it was real.
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You know, that I, I just don't, I'm not really a big fan of
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that. Yeah.
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Was there anything else? I mean, that was really the big
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thing for me. I was really grooving with the
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movie up until that point. And then I was just like, I
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don't feel like I love the ascending.
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Yeah. OK, for me, if I'm approaching
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this from like a horror lens, I think the horror elements are
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super weak in this. It takes a huge backseat.
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Even though, you know, Psycho Beach Party.
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I mean, it kind of it's insinuating that we're going to
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get some horror in there. But like all of the kills, most
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of the killers are off screen and we barely have any time with
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it. The killer shows up once every
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30 minutes. It feels like we never actually
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see like the killer until the end.
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And I don't know, like I just if if I'm wanting to watch like I
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came to this also wanting a horror movie.
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So that could be a big part of it, like my expectations.
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And I didn't really get much of that.
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I got more of a spoof movie than a horror movie and.
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I think so you're saying this and I'm thinking as you're
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talking. So I wonder if part of the
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Psycho is like a reference to the movie Psycho, you know, And
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Norman Bates is like, kind of has.
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Oh, it's what personality. Yeah.
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Where he's his mom. And that's a whole thing with
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Florence is her, one of her alter egos is Ann Bowman, her
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mom's former identity. And I think it would have been
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great if we had just left it at that.
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I don't know why we needed that tiling character.
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Yeah. I didn't really love that.
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Yeah cuz her playing like a black person.
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Yeah, and it just, it felt. Awful.
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It was a little bit weird, Yeah. I mean, I'd also argue like, I
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mean, Psycho's a horror movie, so it's still like bringing the
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horror to the to the title. Yeah, but that's what I'm like.
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That's what got my brain thinking about it so.
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Yeah, yeah, you could be on to something there.
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I OK what? What's ugly?
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I guess just the the time that this was set in like the 60s,
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Yeah, like. Like women can't surf.
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Yeah, you should be focused on having babies and also Kanaka
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using a loophole that she's got a split personality to try and
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have sex with a teenager. I was gonna that's my ugly.
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She's 16. Yeah, which he's probably one of
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those guys like age you consent, age you consent.
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But like it's really gross when you really think about it cuz
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he's clearly like a dude in this.
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I'm gonna guess 30s. He's an older dude in
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comparison. Thomas Gibson has always been
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about 37 years old. Well, yeah, he's just.
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He's definitely an adult and she's definitely not an adult
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and there's definitely a sexual relationship there.
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And yeah, I think that that was really kind of fucked up.
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I. Agree.
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Yeah, absurd. There are a lot to pick from in
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this, but I do want to talk about how Kanaka almost
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exclusively speaks in rhyming couplets.
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He does doesn't. Yeah.
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That's another thing that I thought was like, oh, this is
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totally a stage play type thing because that's a thing that you
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would see in a play. I think it's, I think it's nice
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because again, it's some of that subtle humor that I was talking
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about where like it's never pointed out and it's never like
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stressed. It's just something that you're
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like, is this motherfucker just rhyming all the time?
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So I think that's that's really funny.
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I love Bettina's character, absolutely loving Berdine like
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under like having this deep subtextual reading to her
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characters and she's like, that's what I've been telling my
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ancient. Yeah, I I like her roles.
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I like the three headed monster lady thing that was.
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Yes, I was sex kitten from something there was like a
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tarantula 1. Like all of the titles are like,
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Oh yeah, we've all heard of these, like B horror, like, Oh
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yeah, absurd titles. Yeah, one of my absurd things
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was Xander's actor. His name?
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Star Cat. What?
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They don't elaborate on that at all?
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Why the fuck is he called Star Cat?
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Why are any of them called what they like?
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We get chiclets in the game of Origin, but that's.
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It all the names provolone had something to do with cheese.
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He has some kind of provolone incident that definitely
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happened. yo-yo. I mean, maybe yo-yo was
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involved. Maybe he went back and forth on
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a thing one time. Oh you fucking yo-yo Kanaka.
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I don't know Junior. He could be the second of his
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family. He could be a junior.
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What does TJ stand for? Is TJ such an egregious nickname
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that they have to just shorten it to TJ?
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Thank Jesus cuz he said that one time like TJI don't know man it
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was weird. This movie is just fucking
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absurd throughout honestly. We have a whole dance off with
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Amy Adams and I. Love those dance.
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Off the dance off was pretty cool.
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I I'm not going to lie, I liked it.
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There was like no ramifications for it though.
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Like it didn't really matter. Ultimately it.
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Just humiliated Marvel in. There's just so many weird plot
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points in this movie. Like we also suddenly have a
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haunted house on the beach and it's just, I don't know man.
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Also isn't it weird like how they loop the killer in even
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though the killer had no relation to anything other than
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being like what was the motive? It was a motive.
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So he when he was a child, he lived in that house on the beach
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and killed his whole family. And then he grew up, pretended
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to be a Swedish foreign exchange student, and then started
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killing people with imperfections.
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OK, it's just, it was a weird motive.
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Yeah, it was hard to follow a little bit.
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OK, whatever. I don't really have anything
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else, I'm sorry to add. So what do you rated?
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My God, I had so much fucking fun with this movie.
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I loved it. I'm gonna give it a nine.
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Damn, when we were watching it, I was like, oh, Jesse's gonna
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love this. I knew immediately as soon as I
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start playing like this is a Jesse.
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Movie. Yeah.
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I was getting so like emotionally invested in it.
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You teared up at one point. Guys, I want provolone and yo-yo
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to just have a happily ever after.
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It can't be too easy for two gay men in the 60s to just, like,
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love each other. Yeah, I know it's pretty tough.
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Yeah, you get it all in your feelings for that.
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Yeah, and especially because I was like, Oh well, one of them
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is about to die, for sure, For sure.
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Yeah, I thought they were going to be split like that too, but
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thankfully that did not happen. I I enjoyed this movie.
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I had a good time with it. I'm not, like, in love with it
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like you are, but I did enjoy it.
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I'm going to give it a 6 1/2. OK, That's a goofy movie, man.
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Yeah. 7.75 starting average. OK, solid.
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All right, cool. Well, let's get on into this
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then. How about it?
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All right, so we start off with me taking a ton of notes, trying
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to keep track of what's happening, and really all it is,
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is that they're driving. Yeah, man, the movie, like it
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starts hard and fast with like we're in, we're thrown into like
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a movie, like a movie that they're watching.
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It's like one of those 50s horror movies, like a chick with
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three heads. She grows to be 50 feet tall and
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starts eating people and shit. And there are a lot of elements
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going on in that movie, too. Yeah, there are.
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It seems like a pretty interesting movie, to be honest.
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And then we cut out and we see a bunch of teenagers watching at
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the drive in. Well, Florence and Burdine are
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watching. Everybody else is making out.
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Yeah, and well, Star Cat's also eating an ice cream cake or Ice
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Cream Sandwich. Yes, but he's doing it lewdly
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while making eyes at Marvel Anne, who is eating hers lewdly
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as well. Yeah.
22:06
I guess they're like making out in a sense, through extension,
22:09
through ice cream sandwiches. It's the language of love.
22:13
That is a love language for some.
22:15
So forints gets sick of everything, like everybody
22:19
making out. So she's like fucking I'm going
22:20
to go get a hot dog. So she goes to the hot dog stand
22:23
and the hot dog concession dude is distracted with another
22:28
person there. That's also ordering, which
22:29
causes Forints to snap. Don't exactly know what's
22:33
happening yet, but but we can go ahead and say now she's
22:36
switching over to Anne Bowman here and she starts to flip and
22:40
then it cuts. It cuts back to Berdine at the
22:43
car and she looks over and the woman in the car next to her the
22:47
her make out buddy is gone so she checks on the woman and
22:51
finds her throat slit. So Florence and Berdine the next
22:54
day are stopped by the cops who want to ask a bunch of
22:57
questions, but Florence's mom, who's fucking Aunt Zelda, by the
23:01
way, like that's Aunt Zelda. As soon as I heard her voice, I
23:04
was like, Oh my God, that's Aunt Zelda.
23:05
And I was like, who? And I was like, you're
23:07
uncultured. I've never, I know now Sabrina.
23:10
I've just, I've never really. The only thing I remember from
23:12
Sabrina is Sabrina and the black cat.
23:15
That's all I need to know, honestly.
23:17
I'm I'm totally good with. That that's not all you need.
23:19
To know, that's all I need to know.
23:21
Well, especially the actress was born in Falmouth, KY, so that's
23:25
a. Little fun fact.
23:26
That's right, yeah. You did mention that.
23:28
Yeah, she's. Close to cops.
23:29
Yeah, She was like, do you have a subpoena?
23:33
Is she being detained? She's like, I need to take her
23:37
to her OBO lesson. She's.
23:39
A sovereign citizen. I'm traveling as an entity.
23:42
I'm a corporation. OK, So what is your?
23:48
Chips. OK, so we now see Marvel and she
23:51
invites Florence and Berdine to go to the beach do some man
23:55
hunting. Yeah, and they're kind of
23:57
shocked because we're like, oh, we thought you wrote us off as
23:59
nerds. And we found out later the only
24:01
reason she invited them is because she lost her car
24:03
privileges and Berdine has a car.
24:05
Yeah, she's like, oh, man, it was the silliest thing.
24:06
Like I just like I killed like an old woman.
24:08
Like, you know, like I. Ran over an old.
24:10
Lady dentist thing, man, Yeah. She was old.
24:14
She's over there, she's trying to, you know, give the boys a
24:17
show to entice them to get them to come over, but they're more
24:20
interested in roughhousing amongst themselves until she
24:24
undoes her top and makes Starcat come over there and help her tie
24:27
it up. Yeah.
24:30
So let's see. Florence is super interested in
24:35
the surfing abilities of the dudes though, and she's really,
24:38
really wanting to participate. But anytime she tries to ask
24:41
about it, they're like, dude, you don't need to be fucking
24:44
worrying about it. You're a chick, you can't do
24:46
that. Shit, I love how sensitive these
24:48
guys are because she is like, wow, it's so amazing.
24:54
It has to be so much hard work, but you make it look really easy
24:57
and he goes, it's so much hard work.
24:58
I'm like, she's not that. Yeah, it's super.
25:02
Fucking dramatic. Like the camera like rotates
25:04
around. All the dudes are like, Oh my
25:06
God. It's like it's tubular, it's
25:07
cowabunga. It's like rad, you know, there's
25:09
like hoops and shit. Like it's, it's tough, man.
25:13
It's man's job. I and Nicholas Brennan is so
25:16
much playing is so much playing Xander.
25:24
I find that he does that in anything I've seen him in.
25:27
To be fair, I've only seen him in three things, but it's all
25:29
been Xander. Yeah.
25:31
The other movie. What was the other movie that he
25:32
was in? That we were, Yeah.
25:33
Demon Island. Yes.
25:35
Demon Island. Yep.
25:37
So Florence decides to be a tricky little thing and she
25:42
trips junior and then offers some food as a replacement.
25:47
And while he's eating the food she starts asking about great
25:51
Kanaka wanted to know where he lives, etcetera and so on.
25:54
So I wish she can go down there and ask questions and he's like
25:58
denying her. But then she, like, sees some
26:02
circles on his shirt and they start spinning in visual effects
26:05
away, and she becomes Anne Bowman.
26:09
And she's being very dominatrixy.
26:15
Yeah. Yeah, very aggressive.
26:17
It's a really weird shift. He's into it.
26:23
It's upsetting cuz I'm like she's still 16.
26:26
I like those shots though, where you get the pieces of fabric
26:30
that are spinning whenever she has that transformation.
26:33
Those are really cool, really well done anyways, he agrees.
26:37
Yeah, well, he agrees. While she's Anne and then all of
26:39
a sudden she's Florence again and he's very confused.
26:41
But whatever, she's got lessons. Yeah.
26:43
So we get like a little montage of them doing some surfing.
26:46
He's doing like belly rolls. Whenever he's doing his surfing
26:49
bit. It's like one of those.
26:50
It's those scenes that you've seen with old movies where
26:54
they're surfing, but it's just like.
26:55
It's a green screen, yeah. There's like a display in the
26:57
background of waves crashing, but they're just standing there
27:00
and they're just, like, acting like they're balancing, yeah,
27:02
but they're like, goofing around up there too, which is kind of
27:05
funny. Yeah, and I told Travis, cuz
27:06
Thomas Gibson tends to play very, very serious characters,
27:10
and so it was just funny watching him just like cutting
27:12
up and doing the little Billy rolls and.
27:14
Yeah, yeah, it was really funny. I like that he was having fun
27:16
with himself. All right, so the boys are
27:19
giving Kanaka a hard time because he's teaching a girl
27:23
and. Then then they're like, she's
27:25
not even a chick. She's like half a chick.
27:27
She's a chicklet. Yeah, and this is where she gets
27:30
her nickname. Yeah.
27:31
So they start to embrace her here.
27:33
She starts to roughhouse with the boys a little bit on the
27:35
beach. I like this little game they're
27:36
playing where Yo-yo runs over with his head and tickles her
27:39
like with her with his hair. So one of them, tji think it's
27:46
TJ gets concerned about something and he trusts his gut
27:51
because he says I've had a man's hairy balls since I was 8.
27:54
Yeah, yeah, because it's like it gives him this ability to see
27:59
what's going on in the world. He also like details like crash
28:02
that happened on I-64 and all kinds of other shit.
28:05
And I, and I love it because they all have these like things
28:08
going on with them and they declare them in such poetic,
28:13
flowery ways. Because it's a play, basically.
28:16
Yeah, let's see, Junior. He suffers from the heartbreak
28:20
of psoriasis. God damn it, you know what
28:22
happened. When I heard that, I just played
28:25
that fucking commercial. Somebody has psoriasis and it's
28:30
like the commercial where like the dudes go into the movie, be
28:32
like, oh shit, I got psoriasis. And then this woman going
28:35
grocery shopping, she's like, Oh no, I got psoriasis.
28:37
Yeah, put down the storage, please.
28:38
Yeah, yeah. And then Star Cat, I'm trying
28:42
really hard not to call him Xander.
28:43
Star Cat studies that. He's taken 3 semesters of
28:46
psychology, so he knows what he's talking about.
28:49
Yeah, Northwestern. Yeah, so like he he gets that
28:54
little itch from his balls. They're basically ball.
28:56
Excuse me. And he notices that somebody's
29:00
walking out of the haunted Elkins house, which they give
29:04
the whole story about it being haunted.
29:06
And why not We then we're. Going to cut over to a diner
29:10
real quick. The server there she actually
29:13
is. Also in legally blunt too.
29:16
She was one of the senators. Oh yeah, and we get this girl.
29:20
I can't remember her name, but she's super fucking mean.
29:23
Rhonda. Rhonda.
29:24
Yeah, Rhonda is. Oh my God, She's not even like a
29:27
fun movie bitch. She's just a bitch.
29:29
Yeah, man, she just goes over and every line in this movie,
29:33
she goes over there to just fucking tear people down.
29:36
She's like Pat, that's the server's name.
29:39
She's like Pat. I'm really sorry for your female
29:41
patterned hair loss, but I don't need all of that hair in my
29:44
chicken Alfredo. God damn, Rhonda.
29:47
Yeah, she also picks on Berdine because Berdine's over there
29:50
waiting for Florence to show up for the lunch that they
29:53
scheduled. Then she's a no show.
29:54
And then she was like basically making her feel bad for having
29:56
no friends. Yeah, so Florence is out on the
30:01
beach and they are. They're out on the beach, and a
30:08
bunch of the guys decide they're going to go down to Kanaka
30:12
Shack, but not birding. Florence and Junior stay back,
30:17
and then she sees some sand whirls on his detox.
30:21
Yeah, they're, they see some girls walk by and they're like,
30:23
let's invite them to the luau. That's what it is.
30:25
Yeah, and Florence is really wanting to be a part of the
30:27
luau, but they're really not wanting her to be a part of the
30:29
luau. They're wanting to get some
30:31
other girls to go. So yeah, they go follow.
30:33
Junior's left alone on the beach and Florence is left behind with
30:37
him. So then we cut and it is now
30:41
Anne Bowman. She's back or she's she switches
30:44
to Anne Bowman after they leave and she's mad at the boys for
30:46
leaving. So we cut to the next day, we
30:48
see a heart on the beach. Junior's missing and the boys
30:52
are over there at Kanaka's place.
30:54
They're just kind of roughhousing around.
30:56
Yo-yo and provolone I believe are.
30:59
Out there oily fight. That's really funny the way that
31:03
plays out because like somebody just takes like a bottle and
31:06
starts spraying it on them and then they just start like
31:08
wrestling and getting super, super sensual with each other
31:11
and I. My head cannon is that they
31:13
actually support them as a couple and they're just waiting
31:16
for them to come out. This right here, I think.
31:18
Was there a way of trying to get them to like heroes, Like make
31:20
them oily, like, you know? It's like when you take your
31:23
your Barbie dolls together and me go and kiss.
31:26
That's what they're trying to do with yo-yo and provolone.
31:29
But in the process of all that rough house and one of them
31:31
actually picks up a dismembered hand.
31:34
A psoriatic A psoriatic hand. Man, I was so ready to pronounce
31:39
that word correctly and I fucked it up.
31:42
And you know what? It's still impressive the fact
31:44
that I didn't even know psoriatic was a word.
31:46
I only know it from all the commercials about psoriatic
31:48
arthritis. Oh God damn it.
31:50
There's too many commercials about that shit out there.
31:52
Yeah, so they find the hand and they start freaking out.
31:56
So the. Police are back.
31:57
Yeah, they're a question in everybody.
31:59
Everybody's got Air Thai alibis except performance, but.
32:02
Kanaka vouches for her. Yeah, and we see here that
32:09
Kanaka and the detective had a history, Stark.
32:12
Yeah, they have a history together.
32:14
So Florence talks to I can't read this word Lars, she talks
32:24
to Lars. She she is having like moments
32:27
that she can't remember and Lars and sis.
32:32
Oh this is one of my favorite parts.
32:33
Right here, as my mother used to say, get your Hefian Lefian.
32:38
Yeah, it's just like fucking Swedish and gibberish.
32:41
Yeah, but he says it was such sincerity that it's just so
32:44
funny. He delivers that line perfectly.
32:46
And she's like, oh, that's what they say over.
32:48
Here, drive us. At the beginning of this movie
32:49
he was like, part of me thought this was a Scars guard.
32:51
He kind of did seem like a Scars guard.
32:53
He's tall and blonde and does a convincing Swedish accent.
32:57
He really does. He's pretty good at it.
32:59
So we now see the boys confront the woman that came from the
33:04
Elkins house on the beach. And wouldn't you know, it's the
33:07
actress from the movie they saw the drive in the other night,
33:09
The three headed pizza waitress. I love the way that like you
33:12
look familiar. Wait, Provolani, put your head
33:15
on one shoulder, Chicly put your head on her other shoulder and
33:18
they're like. Yeah, it's.
33:21
Funny. And so they're all freaking out.
33:22
She's been hiding out until the studio agrees to to her terms.
33:26
Yeah, give her more control, let her do more serious roles.
33:31
And then this is where Berdine shows up and she completely
33:33
fangirls and she, she's got like, again, like I said, she's
33:38
got a really deep, like some textual reading of her
33:40
characters. And Berdine's like, that's what
33:42
I've been my agent. Do you want to be my secretary?
33:45
She's also really mad at Florence.
33:47
She's calling Florence out for ghosting her on their lunch that
33:50
they were supposed to have. Which is fair.
33:51
Yeah, and then she's also just realizing that Florence really
33:54
doesn't want anything to do with it anymore, so she agrees to be
33:57
the assistant because of that. Chiclet is out and I'm just.
34:02
I switched between calling her Chiclet and Flow in my notes.
34:05
But she is out there surfing and Star Cat watches her and she
34:08
crashes and he's concerned. So he goes out and he rescues
34:12
her and he gets the water out of her lungs.
34:16
And then she's like, what'd you do that for?
34:19
And they're fighting and she's like, Oh yeah, sure.
34:21
It's so easy for you, Mr. Perfect.
34:23
He's like, don't call me that. Do you know how hard it is being
34:26
perfect? Expectations of being perfect.
34:29
And then she's just really hammering the perfectness of
34:32
him. And then it's like she's
34:34
complimenting him. He's like don't do that, stop
34:37
it. He like goes running away and
34:39
she. So my little sister, when she
34:41
was like 3 years old, the worst thing in the world you could
34:44
sell her was that she's cute. She.
34:47
Hated being called cute. She's like.
34:50
Which of course, was always adorable when she did it.
34:53
She's playing into it. Yeah.
34:56
So we now see the boys they've bring, or they're bringing
34:59
Misses Byrne. I can't fucking remember her
35:02
name. Just call her Bettina.
35:03
Bettina, they're bringing Bettina some flowers.
35:06
Yeah, they're they show. She shows them the picture that
35:10
she found of the Elkins family. Yeah, Berdine found the Elkins
35:13
family photo. And then they tell her the story
35:15
about the murder, and then they're like, oh, hey, let's
35:18
have a slumber party. Berdine's got a spell book on
35:21
how to exercise spirit, so they're just all going to get
35:24
together and do that. Yeah, and Mom's not too happy
35:27
with Florence for wanting to go do that, because that's all
35:29
going to end up in some sex words.
35:31
You type shit. I mean, maybe.
35:34
That, I mean, yeah, I mean it was, it was going in that
35:36
direction. Later on it goes in that.
35:37
Direction. We can't say for sure it won't.
35:39
Yeah. And then Anne, no, not Anne
35:42
emerges. It's actually Tyree.
35:44
Tylene. Tylene who emerges and.
35:47
Slaps her mom. Yeah.
35:49
And then she turns back. Really.
35:50
And she's like, mom, are you OK? Just like, you really don't know
35:53
when that happens to you. You can go to your slumber party
35:58
as long as there are no boys there.
36:00
I don't understand why she doesn't just have this
36:02
conversation with her daughter about this shit.
36:05
Like it's clearly affecting everybody's lives.
36:08
I think she is very much of the school of thought that if you
36:11
don't talk about it and don't remember it, that it's just
36:14
better. Yeah.
36:16
And yeah, I guess so. This was the 60s, All right, so
36:20
we're at the Exorcism Sleepover. That would have been a good
36:23
title for this movie, too. Exorcism.
36:24
Sleepover. I would watch that movie.
36:26
Chicklett talks about the Black House with Star Cat and she's
36:30
like she does the friend of a friend type thing here and she's
36:33
like he's like Berdine's having this shit and.
36:36
She's like, I didn't say it was Berdine, he goes.
36:38
Yeah, but you only have one friend.
36:39
Yeah, and then she's. So like she sees a painting
36:42
behind him and the spirals yeah, the eyes are which part of me
36:47
wondered if this was meant to be like a big eyes type painting,
36:49
which I think is just funny because later on a.
36:52
Big eyes painting. It's, I forget the artist's
36:55
name, but it was like her style was to do like, extra big eyes.
36:58
And there's a movie called Big Eyes starring Christoph Waltz
37:01
and Amy Adams. Interesting.
37:04
So I was like, oh, that's a fun little tie.
37:06
And it could have been intentional, but yeah.
37:08
Because it was before that, Yeah.
37:09
Yeah, had to have been. Yeah.
37:12
OK, so fuck man, this movie goes to many places.
37:15
It's hard to like get your when you go on a tantrum, it's hard
37:17
to like collect yourself to go back to it.
37:20
They hug it out. They make a.
37:20
Truce. Yeah, and as they're hugging
37:23
Marvel, Ann comes around the corner and Ann mouths fuck.
37:27
Yeah, she's like they're, they're wearing matching shirts
37:31
too. And and Starcat.
37:35
Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. Marvel, Ann.
37:37
Now Ann Bowman I. Said Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she is
37:40
Ann Bowman. God, this movie's confusing.
37:43
Yeah. What kind of name is Marvel in?
37:45
I don't know it's. Also, I feel like we need to
37:47
talk about that. That is a weird name.
37:49
Yeah. It's like a fucking Marvel
37:50
superhero. All right, So it's like.
37:53
The daughter of a Marvel superhero?
37:55
Yeah. You're right, yeah, Miss
37:57
Marvel's daughter. Martian boy hunter.
38:01
Yeah. All right.
38:03
So boy gets knocked at the door and gets stabbed.
38:07
I think this is TJ. This is TJ.
38:09
Yeah, he was supposed to be meeting Burnett.
38:11
Bernadette. The fucking names in this movie.
38:17
Bernadette. Bernadette.
38:18
Let's see. I'm gonna just keep referring
38:19
Bettina Burns. There we go, Barnes.
38:21
I don't fucking know, Bettina. So Bettina had set up this like
38:27
they they were going to hook up in the bathroom and he's waiting
38:32
for her to do the hook up, but we see somebody with Jolo gloves
38:35
knock on the door and he answers it and gets stabbed in the head.
38:38
And this movie does get Jolo Y at times but.
38:40
Yeah, yeah, they they kind of have a Jolo killer going.
38:44
So then we hear a scream whenever Burdine and Florence
38:52
are talking about the split personality thing, and everybody
38:55
screams because somebody found the body and they all go and
38:58
they check it out, and then this gets the cops to come to the
39:01
party. Yeah, so they're interviewing
39:04
everyone and Stark has a flashback to when she was a
39:07
younger cop and she was with Kanaka and they're making out
39:11
and he's like, we got to plan the wedding.
39:12
They're. Doing a little bit more making
39:14
now they're full on fucking in the backseat of a car.
39:18
Anyway, he's like, we've got to plan the wedding real quick.
39:22
And she goes, well, I'm sitting for the sergeant's test and he's
39:24
like, you don't need to worry about that.
39:25
You need to be worrying about having babies.
39:27
And that's when she dumps him. So Stark realizes that all of
39:32
the victims have some sort of imperfection.
39:34
So the woman at the drive in had a hair lip, the so junior had
39:43
the heartbreak of psoriasis, and TJ only had one nut.
39:48
Yep. I could not read the word
39:50
heartbreak there. So Mom is in the kitchen and
39:54
she's sharpening a knife. And she was like, I can't stand
39:56
imperfection. Yeah, you know, we're starting
40:00
to get a little science and might be her.
40:03
So the group is The surfing group is mourning the loss of
40:06
their friends and they discuss canceling the luau.
40:08
But you know, Kanaka's like, no, we need to, we need to honor
40:13
Neptune. And Florence is like, besides,
40:16
they wouldn't want us to cancel the luau.
40:18
And somehow that winds up with her being invited to the luau,
40:21
even though nobody really wanted her to come.
40:24
Yeah. And then Kanaka realizes that
40:27
it's the circles that bring out Anne.
40:29
So he's like trying to bring out Anne, except he brings out
40:33
tylene on accident and then brings out Anne.
40:36
Yeah, so we cut over to the mean girl who is at the diner.
40:42
She approaches the table of fuck, what's her name, Bettina
40:48
and all of them. And she's doing her best to try
40:51
and insult everybody there. She makes Bertine very
40:56
self-conscious about herself, her age, and why not?
40:59
Bettina. She makes Bettina
41:01
self-conscious, saying that she's got lines on her face, so
41:03
she's like, I'll be back. Yeah, and then we see you later
41:06
on. Fuck.
41:09
What's the Rhonda? She's outside of the diner and
41:12
the killer with the the gloves gets her wheelchair and pushes
41:17
her into something. I don't know, it's an off screen
41:20
killer. We don't exactly see what
41:21
happens, but we see a wrecked wheelchair later on and a dead
41:25
body after the fact. This is when Anne Bowman walks
41:29
into the diner. She's got a feather boa and a
41:31
cigarette holder, darling, and she's talking to them as like an
41:35
old style film actress. And Pat, the server comes and
41:40
takes the cigarette away and says you're not even old enough
41:42
to smoke. And then all of a sudden she is
41:45
Florence again and Prevaloni and yo-yo are confused and Bernie is
41:49
trying to cover for her and be like, she does great
41:51
impressions, doesn't she? And then I hear Patina scream.
41:54
Yeah, and that is that where they found the body?
41:56
Yes, physical will. The wheelchair's turned over to
41:59
heads removed and it's spinning on the wheel of the wheelchair.
42:03
Yeah, and then of course the cops are there because they're
42:05
there all the time. A question Bernie and then the
42:09
detective questions the boys start getting.
42:13
The boys fuck with her though. Do they question Bertine or
42:16
Bettina? Because you said Bernie.
42:19
Man I I'm so fucked up. I'm not saying names anymore in
42:23
this movie. I'm saying friend she's friend.
42:26
So they question friend, friend gives as much information as
42:30
possible. Then boys are also questioned
42:33
after the fact and cop detective asks them if there's anything
42:39
different about them because they are suspecting that the
42:43
killer's going after somebody or people that are different than
42:46
other people. Star Cat is missing a nail on
42:50
his big toe and Provolone hasn't pooped for 64 days.
42:53
I'm pretty sure you actually die at that point.
42:56
Probably, yeah. And.
42:57
No, I'm being like actual literal.
42:59
I'm being actual literal too. Probably provolone, though.
43:03
He's like, yeah, you know, actually there's something
43:05
different about me. I don't really know.
43:07
I feel different inside. No, that's yo-yo, and he's
43:10
looking. At yo-yo and he's like I.
43:11
Feel different inside, like when I look at provolone.
43:16
Yeah, he kind of comes out here to Provolone and it kind of
43:18
freaks Provolone out and he runs out of the room.
43:21
So Berdine is sitting with Florence in her room and they're
43:24
talking. She's like, I just, I miss us
43:27
being really close, we're best friends.
43:28
Then she starts leaning like she's going to kiss, but Lars
43:31
interrupts because he every time he puts his hand into his pocket
43:35
he feels a small prick. He needs all his pants fixed.
43:42
And then they are gonna like, Florence is really worried about
43:49
going to the luau because she's really worried, like, what if
43:51
she blacks out and berdine just like is telling her like, you've
43:55
got to go, you've got to go. We cut to Marvel Ann and she
43:58
dumped Star Cat. And then that leads to Florence,
44:04
like, comforting him, and she tries to talk to him about SEX.
44:11
And it's this whole funny scene because she was like, well, what
44:13
kind of stuff did you do with Marvel, Ann?
44:17
I'd be like, well, I might put my arm around her and nuzzle her
44:21
neck and she might kiss my chest.
44:26
And then he gets into very like in the same tone, gets into very
44:29
graphic sexual details. Well, yeah, yeah, it it gets
44:33
pretty, pretty heavy there and it freaks chick lit out and she
44:37
goes running away from the whole thing.
44:39
Well, and she runs off to Kanaka Shack and he is like, oh hell
44:44
no, Kanaka is twice your age. So he's trying to tell Kanaka
44:47
off and Kanaka's like, no, no, no, but wait, watch what I can
44:50
do with the circles. It's going to bring out a
44:52
totally different person. It's fine, it's great.
44:54
And then of course, once chick like gets there, they're like,
44:59
there's a bunch of arguing going on and it ends up with Kanaka
45:02
accidentally punching her, trying to punch star cats.
45:05
She passed out. Ruth shows up and she was like,
45:07
you missed your, you missed your outbound recital.
45:12
She's very distressed about all of this.
45:14
Ruth is her mom. So that night she's drunk and
45:18
Lars comes in to ask to use the car.
45:21
And she's like, I don't use it. Anyway, Florence is not to go to
45:24
the luau. Will you please change the light
45:27
bulb? Here.
45:29
Yeah, she gets a little handsy with Lars here.
45:31
And he becomes very uncomfortable and again, ugly
45:34
ugly. I forgot about this in the midst
45:36
of talking about, yeah, Kanaka and Florence, but this is just
45:41
as bad, especially because at this time, what we assume Large
45:45
to be is a foreign exchange student.
45:48
Yeah. And that's like she's in a
45:50
position of power over him because he's staying in her
45:51
house. Yeah, not only that, also
45:53
presumably, you know, he's a not adult.
45:56
Yeah, he's still in high school. So anyways, we're at the Luau
46:00
Luau starting. We get a big old dance off that
46:03
goes on here. With the live music being
46:05
performed by luchadors. Yeah, it seems like a Halloween
46:08
party. Seems pretty awesome to be
46:09
honest. So you said a Halloween party
46:12
and I'm how is it a Halloween party?
46:14
Because you said this last night too.
46:16
Because they're dressed up in masks.
46:19
But they're like luchador masks. Yeah, it just seemed like a
46:22
Halloween vibe, not any deeper than that.
46:25
Well I just nobody else was in masks so that's why I was
46:28
confused. Yeah, it's just people in masks.
46:30
Made me think Halloween OK. Yeah.
46:33
OK, we're back at the house. Florence's house.
46:35
Berdine climbs up into her window and busts Florence out to
46:39
go to the luau. Yes.
46:41
We then cut back over to the luau.
46:42
Stargat's wandering around. He's asking Marvel, Ann and
46:46
everybody else where Chiclet is. Provolone is so stressed about
46:51
the luau. His spread didn't work out the
46:54
way he wanted it to. Things are missing.
46:56
They're not set up the way he wants to.
46:57
And yo-yo says listen, it's going to be OK.
47:00
And then they kiss. Yeah, and this is where Jesse
47:03
teared up at right here. Because I just knew one of them
47:05
was going to die after that. Yeah, I mean, they really are
47:08
making it seem like somebody's about to die.
47:09
And I thought it was going to be yo-yo because yo-yo.
47:12
Like he was the most reluctant to talk about anything
47:15
different, although I guess now he was just thinking about being
47:18
gay. Yeah, which I'm glad that they
47:20
they didn't house it as gay being an imperfection.
47:23
Yeah, but in the 60s, I guess I could see that.
47:25
Having been. Like a thing that would have
47:27
been a reason for this, but yeah it so anyways.
47:31
Star cat finds Florence. And at the same time, Kanaka
47:36
sees Lars talking to Wedge Riley, who just got out of the
47:40
big house, and he confronts him. And Wedge Riley is like, well,
47:43
if you want this to be a real honor to Neptune, we need to
47:47
sacrifice a virgin. And there's no virgins around
47:50
here. And Florence is like I.
47:52
Am, yeah, and I've never seen anybody willingly be a virgin
47:56
sacrifice before, but Florence is all for it.
47:59
You have to, because we've watched House Bunny together
48:02
multiple times. The virgin sacrifice I'm
48:06
thinking here is like a killing. One, I don't think they were
48:09
playing any killer. Probably not, but I never know
48:11
what these things. That's the thing.
48:12
Like, I don't think you should willingly like volunteer to be a
48:16
sacrifice for anything because you never know what that means.
48:18
OK, so the ritual begins. They have her up on this throne
48:25
thing, they're carrying her, and she snaps to Anne.
48:29
Because they're doing like a circle around her.
48:32
And she orders them to drop her and put them on the ground.
48:36
The mom and the cops all arrive and they bust the party.
48:41
And Star Cat like because they want to arrest Florence and Star
48:45
Cat's like, no, wait, hold on, I'm going to hypnotize her.
48:49
And Ruth is like, don't let don't let him do this to her.
48:53
And Stark is like, I'll do the better.
48:56
And I speak lobotomy. Yeah, yeah.
48:58
Which I think was actually a thing back then too.
49:01
So he successfully does the hypnotization of her and.
49:05
She first goes through like she's a bunch of radio stations,
49:08
and then she's 7 1/2 again and she sees her mom, who is Anne
49:13
Bowman, and she's not going to take Florence and Frankie to the
49:17
movies because she's busy with a sailor man.
49:19
So Florence and Frankie go to the park and he wants to be
49:22
pushed really high on the swing. He wants to go over the top.
49:26
And she pushes him so hard and he just whoops and he dies.
49:31
So I was confused about this. Was Anne Bowman like a other
49:35
personality of the mom too? No.
49:37
So what happened was after this happened, Ruth realized her mom
49:42
realized that she that Florence didn't remember anything.
49:47
So she took it as an opportunity to move.
49:49
She changed her name to Ruth Forest.
49:53
OK. And then she just, you know, she
49:57
looks like Florence didn't seem to remember anything.
50:00
So I just took it as a blessing. Bettina wants to buy the rights
50:04
to this story so that way she can make it a movie.
50:08
And Stark says not so fast. We've got to arrest Ruth for
50:11
murder. One of the things that they had
50:13
was a clue was the license plate of the car that drove past.
50:18
I think Rhonda's murder was an anagram for Ruth Forest.
50:23
And that scene was so funny with Stark like being like put the H
50:28
before the T. Yeah, yeah, it kind of it goes
50:30
on for a little bit just like different names.
50:34
Florence and start cat. They share a moment they're
50:37
about to hook up, but Wires is like hey, I'll drive you home
50:40
Florence. So she goes home with Wires and.
50:43
Then the car goes like. I was really surprised to learn
50:45
of your problems. Meanwhile, the others are
50:49
cleaning up and they take another look at the Elkins
50:52
family photo and they draw a pair of glasses on the little
50:56
boy and they're like, it's large.
51:01
So we come back over to the car. Florence has managed to hop out
51:05
the passenger door. The old tuck and roll.
51:07
Yeah, and she's running into the house and Lars is chasing after
51:11
her. No, she's running into the drive
51:13
in. Oh, yeah.
51:13
Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
51:14
Yeah. Yeah, and Lars, he's dropped the
51:17
accent, he's just Larry now. And she she's changing between
51:22
her different personas as they're fighting and they
51:26
managed to climb up like to the screen as the pals and cops
51:29
arrive. The marquee, I love that
51:31
setting. That's cool.
51:32
Yeah, it's it's actually like really tense because whoo,
51:35
that's big fall. Yeah.
51:37
So Larry's closing in on her and she becomes Anne and she like.
51:42
Becomes tylene I think actually. Well, she becomes Tylene at one
51:44
point, but when they're up on the marquee, she becomes Anne
51:47
and she fights and then start gets up there just in time to
51:50
shoot. And Larry falls and they're
51:53
climbing down and Florence just jumps into Star Cat's arms and
51:59
Star jumps into Kanaka's arms and Star Cat pins Florence.
52:04
And it seems like everything's happy.
52:06
And she wakes up in the hospital and she's got to go to shock
52:12
treatment. And all of the workers there are
52:15
people from the movie, so Junior's one of the attendants
52:18
there, and I can't remember who the other person was.
52:21
Yeah, I don't remember either. But it's the boys.
52:25
They're they're doing that. Yeah, and Rhonda and Rhonda's
52:27
still a bitch. Yeah, I can see why she would
52:29
weed over to be a mean person in the dream too.
52:33
And then it cuts out from there to it being a drive in movie
52:37
that teenagers are watching and they're just kind of commenting
52:41
about. It Yeah.
52:42
And the girl is like, oh, no, this is based on a true story.
52:45
I'm personally very glad that Anne Bowman's in prison.
52:47
And then all of a sudden we have Lauren Ambrose jumping out for
52:49
the backseat going, Yeah. And that's how it ends.
52:53
That's how it ends. Yeah, I'm with you on that, man.
52:55
That ending is kind of weird. Yeah, I just, I don't know, I'm
52:59
I didn't need the twist ending. I would have been fine with it
53:04
ending cheesily. Yeah, yeah.
53:07
I mean, I guess you could kind of call that a cheesy ending if
53:10
you want to, but it's just, I don't know, I just hate the fake
53:13
out aspect to that. Just let it in naturally.
53:18
OK? So yeah, that's that movie right
53:20
there. Indeed.
53:21
Did you change your rating after talking about it?
53:24
No, I still love this movie. OK, yeah, I'm not changing money
53:27
either. I'm gonna keep it at 6 1/2 all.
53:29
Right. What would you want more from
53:31
it? I'd like to update horror
53:33
aspects of it. OK, yeah.
53:35
Have the killer be more present, have it be more of a factor of
53:38
the movie here because it takes a major backseat.
53:41
Like if we count screen time of actual like killing and seeing
53:45
killer on here, I would I'd say it's under a minute if I'm being
53:50
realistic, other than like when Lars comes out in this chase and
53:53
after which I, you know, I don't even know if I even really count
53:58
that. I didn't really feel like a
53:59
killer moment, OK. It was just weird.
54:01
Yeah, it was a lacking. OK, Yep.
54:05
Dream sequel. Well, do you want it to take
54:14
place in real time or like, do we do a sequel to the movie that
54:18
was within the movie here? It would be fun to see it kind
54:22
of like updated for modern times and sensibilities, you know,
54:25
kind of see how to play with like today's movie tropes since
54:30
it is like a parody type movie. That's true.
54:32
Yeah, that. Yeah.
54:33
Take different genres other than like the surf stuff of the time.
54:36
Like, yeah, what? What would be a thing to parody
54:40
you in this day and age? Maybe if you want to get like
54:49
more horror elements to it, maybe like have it parody.
54:52
Like I know you hate the same elevated horror.
54:56
OK. So you'd have some fun playing
54:59
around with some of that, like maybe you make it like overly
55:03
obvious imagery and metaphors. Grieving.
55:08
Yeah, lots of grieving. Muted colors.
55:12
Muted colors. Yeah.
55:13
More grieving. Yeah.
55:15
Yeah. OK.
55:16
Sure. Yeah.
55:16
I think that that would probably be good.
55:19
OK. OK.
55:20
That sounds good to me. Yeah.
55:21
All right. How do you relate to?
55:30
I think I related to Junior because he just seemed happy to
55:32
be there and I would have just been happy to be there.
55:36
OK, I also relate to Junior because while I don't suffer
55:40
from the heartbreak of psoriasis, I do suffer from the
55:43
heartbreak of eczema and it is, I don't love it so.
55:50
Man, that's sad. It's heartbreak.
55:53
It is heartbreak, yeah. It's heartbreak.
55:55
I'm being open here and I feel like you're mocking me.
55:57
I was being vulnerable with you and all of our listeners.
56:01
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
56:03
OK. Laugh at me.
56:04
So on Tubi, we do Scouts favorite part, right?
56:08
Yes. So Scouts favorite part.
56:12
What would that have been? I am going to say whenever the
56:26
like Rhonda gets killed in the wheelchair.
56:28
No, obviously Scott's favorite part was when Florence slapped
56:35
her mother. Oh God, we got that on joking.
56:38
Because like, she like perked up when that happened.
56:41
She was like, yeah, she was like, oh, oh, we, we slap and
56:44
mom's here. And then she kind of like slide
56:46
at me. We got video of her slapping you
56:47
too doing the Judy scene from Sweep way.
56:50
Camp, Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
56:53
That's actually a perfect moment for Scout.
56:56
OK, well I guess it's time to do some reviews.
57:00
All right. So I have pulled 2 reviews, one
57:02
good, one bad. So we're starting off with the
57:05
bad. A dissenting opinion.
57:09
How do you parody movies that are already parodies?
57:11
I've noticed that Psycho Beach Party has good reviews from
57:14
everyone. Well, sorry to buck the trend,
57:16
but I did not enjoy the film. I think much of it could be my
57:19
age. After all, I remember the beach
57:21
movies of the 60s because I grew up in the 60s and the films were
57:24
already parodies of themselves. The original beach movies were
57:28
terrible and they made no bones about it and were meant to be
57:31
dopey. So making a newer film that
57:33
makes fun of them really cannot hit the mark, simply because
57:36
making a bad movie about bad movies isn't really all that
57:39
funny, at least if you're familiar with the genre.
57:42
If I wanted to see incredibly broad acting, bad riding in a
57:45
dopey putt, I'd just watch Beach Blanket Bingo or How to Stuff a
57:49
Wild Bikini. The only real difference is that
57:52
Psycho Beach Party has more sexual innuendo and some
57:54
killing, but for me that just isn't enough to recommend it.
58:00
I'm kind of disagree. I don't think parody is always
58:02
making fun of something. It could be kind of like a like
58:05
a love letter to a genre or sub genre.
58:09
Yeah, I just, I can kind of see the argument of like parodying a
58:12
parody. Yeah, that could be tough.
58:15
But that's one of those things like I can't really speak to
58:17
that cuz I'm not familiar with the movies that this is
58:19
parodying. Yeah, and I think I'm trying to
58:23
remember. I think it said online Charles
58:26
Bush was born in the 50s, so he'd be familiar with the beach
58:31
movies as well. It would have been something
58:33
that he would have grown up with.
58:34
So I don't think it was like I. Don't think you write this if
58:37
you're not familiar with that. Like, who chooses to write about
58:40
this if you don't really know or weren't really watching that
58:43
shit? Yeah, I don't know.
58:45
Like, I mean, I think it couldn't work.
58:47
I think it did work. I think maybe it helps to not be
58:49
familiar with that stuff. Maybe it might actually help.
58:52
I think the writing was good though.
58:53
I saw I just kind. Of disagree with it.
58:56
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good too.
58:57
I saw a lot of opinions of people, like positive opinions
59:00
saying because they were familiar with those movies that
59:03
they liked this movie. So I think like the parody
59:05
worked for most people. And it is a type of humor that
59:08
like, isn't universe. It's a more dry humor and I
59:12
think that's fine, but I understand why that doesn't
59:16
appeal to some people as much. Yeah, I can understand it too.
59:19
Yeah, this movie is absolutely like, I could see it being
59:23
divisive. Yeah, I was going to say it's, I
59:24
can understand how it's not for everybody.
59:26
It's definitely for me, but I can see how it's not for
59:29
everybody, yeah. OK, let's move to a positive.
59:33
What is wrong with most of these people?
59:36
I have no idea what people were expecting when they saw this
59:38
movie, but it was great. I do not think it was ever
59:42
supposed to be taken seriously. Everyone in the film is
59:45
fantastic. I was even surprised to see
59:47
Kimberly Davies put in a good performance.
59:50
This will definitely become one of those cult films that people
59:53
will discover years from now and love Above all things.
59:56
It shows us that cinema does not have to be curious or serious to
59:59
be good one. Oh I was checking what year this
1:00:02
was written in because I was like cult film discovered later
1:00:05
that they love. And yes, this review was written
1:00:07
in 2004. Then for the record, the last
1:00:10
one is 2018. Oh wow, yeah.
1:00:13
So different stuff there. Anyone who loves to watch 60s
1:00:17
beach movies because of how bad they are.
1:00:19
Anyone who likes schwalk teenage horror flicks, old and new.
1:00:22
Fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer for its content, not just Sarah
1:00:25
Michelle Gaylor's content. You will love this. 8 1/2 out of
1:00:29
10. Yeah, I I can see some of the
1:00:33
like, not just the Nicholas Brennan of it all, but like the
1:00:36
Buffy, like we're going to be a little cheesy and have.
1:00:40
Buffy's kind of can't be there, yeah.
1:00:42
It is, and it's fun with itself. It's got a different kind of
1:00:46
humor written into it, but it is like for all of the problems
1:00:48
which are sweet and it is really well written.
1:00:50
Yeah, yeah, bad people can be good at things.
1:00:54
Yeah, unfortunately, yeah. But yeah, no, that's one of
1:00:58
those things too. Like I, I, I did enjoy the
1:01:01
writing of this movie. I thought it was pretty funny,
1:01:02
honestly. Like the characters are really
1:01:04
interesting. Like, I don't know, it's a, it's
1:01:07
a wild ride, man. So I guess that brings us to the
1:01:11
titular question. To be or not to be?
1:01:15
Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah, I'm going to say yeah,
1:01:16
definitely. I think people should check this
1:01:18
out. I agree.
1:01:19
I think this is I've never seen anybody talk about this movie.
1:01:23
I did look it up and I saw where there were some discussions on
1:01:26
Reddit, but it's mostly people being like, why are people not
1:01:29
talking about this movie? So maybe this one just needs
1:01:32
some time to build that student. Like it's still, I mean, it's 25
1:01:36
years old now, you know, But that's still like, I mean, 2000s
1:01:42
movies, I think they're now having their like retro, like
1:01:45
when we were in the 90s and 2000s, like movies from the 70s
1:01:48
and 80s. And also like this cast is just
1:01:51
like, again, it's studded. It is, yeah.
1:01:55
It's a pretty great cast. It's kind of surprising to be
1:01:58
familiar with so many actors in a movie and never have heard of
1:02:01
it. I know, right?
1:02:03
Yeah, man, yeah. It's a weird movie, so check it
1:02:06
out if you can or if you want to if it sounded interesting to
1:02:09
you, yeah. Give it a shot.
1:02:10
Absolutely recommend. Give it a little taste.
1:02:12
Yeah, Like Baskin-robbins little sample spoon.
1:02:16
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1:02:18
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