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Brandon Holthaus: The Demonic, Intentional Destruction Of America · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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Well, hello, friends.
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God bless you and thank you so much for watching, listening, sharing the podcast, going to
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get right into our guest today in a minute.
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After I thank two more friends that have sent in some donations to help us out.
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The spiritual warfare, of course, continues.
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But man, God has sovereign over all that.
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So I can't wait to talk to Brandon Holthouse.
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He's our guest today, the senior pastor of Rock Harbor Church.
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And that is in Bakersfield, California.
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He's been in full-time ministry since 2000.
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He's served as a young adult pastor, minister of education.
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He was called to start Rock Harbor Church in 2011.
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And I love this brother because he's a remnant pastor, remnant church,
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and in age of apostasy.
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And he continues to proclaim the scriptures from Genesis to Revolution.
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Revelation, evangelized disciple, discern.
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I'm going way too fast because there's so much to cover.
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But he's our kind of pastor.
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He's got a degree in political science from Columbia University in New York.
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We will not hold that against him.
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Yeah, please don't hold that against him.
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We won't, but that's part of your past.
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But your masters is from Liberty University,
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Baptist Theological Seminary in Lynchburg, Virginia.
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And you have prophecy updates, sermons,
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Bible studies on YouTube, rumble, vimeo.
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And you are also professor of eschatology at Summit Bible College.
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That's a lot.
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Now we're done with the show.
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We're going to have to cover the topics next time.
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But Brandon, welcome to World View Matters, brother.
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Hey, thank you, David.
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Man, I'm a big fan of yours, man.
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So it's an honor to be with you, dude.
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Oh, praise God.
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Next time we won't have to cover all that.
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We can just jump right into it.
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Hey, you were in Australia.
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We're going to get to that in a minute.
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Our friends, we have other pastors that we're talking about.
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That conference you were a part of with, I think,
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Bill Cron and Pete Garcia and others.
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But I saw an interview with you recently over at OAN.
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And it was infuriating to me to at least sit
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through some of the video clips that were played of churches
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that you have to put in air quotes.
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Because to me, they're not churches.
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But describe that.
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And it's basically churches conforming to the world.
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Under the guise of being seeker sensitive,
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maybe trying to bring in people, the unchurched.
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But what happens when you do that?
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Go ahead and share your thoughts.
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Your pastor's heart, Brandon.
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Well, what's happened is exactly.
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Spurgeon said this a long time ago.
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At some point, the church is going to have clowns
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entertaining goats.
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And that's what the seeker-friendly movement has actually
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turned into.
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And they baptized what they do by saying, well, Paul said,
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I've become all things to all people.
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So they spiritualize what they're doing.
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So last, well, two Sundays ago, I should say, during Super Bowl,
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they had guys pastors singing Garth Brook songs.
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I have friends in low places.
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And then another pastor swinging on a wrecking ball,
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like Miley Cyrus.
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And you're thinking, what is going on here?
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It's circus church.
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And I think the Apostle Paul, if he walked into one
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of these churches, his mind would explode
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watching what is happened here in America,
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but it's in Western society.
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So what's happened with the seeker-friendly movement
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is they have inverted the call of the church
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to equip the saints.
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And now they've said, we're going to turn
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into evangelism purposes.
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And really, they're not evangelizing what they're
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doing is entertaining people.
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That's what's happening.
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There's no edification of the saints.
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There's no maturity.
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The lessons are being taught at maybe a second grade level
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if that.
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And so you have smoke and lights in the laser show.
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And it's turned into a Las Vegas type of atmosphere.
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And so that's what the church in America
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and around the world in Western society
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has turned into.
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And unfortunately, it's led to the great apostasy.
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It's so sad to see, if you have a heart
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for the church like you do, like I do,
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like most of the viewers of World New Matters
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and people that you speak to at conferences,
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it's so disturbing.
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I wonder what God thinks about it.
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Well, we do have an idea because Jesus spoke.
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He wrote a few letters or he spoke to churches
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in Revelation chapter two and three.
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But isn't it disturbing that once you do all the circus show
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and the entertainment brand and you bring in,
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you might bring in people.
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But then what do you do to keep them there?
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You can't give them, you can't talk about repentance,
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you can't talking about Bible prophecy
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and things like that.
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You're quick thoughts before we move on.
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Yeah, it totally negates any convicting type of message
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that would offend them.
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And so that's what the whole secret friendly movement
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is, the ballot is not offending people.
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But look, the truth is going to be offensive sometimes.
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It's going to divide people.
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And so these guys, whatever you do to draw them in,
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you have to maintain them by the same thing.
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And so this is where the churches have become more of a,
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you know, a motivational,
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live your best life now, message versus you need to repent.
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You need to get right with the Lord.
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You need to get on the straight and narrow.
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You need to be safe.
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That's out the door now.
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Okay, rockharborchurch.net.
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That's Brandon's website of his church.
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Rockharborchurch.net.
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So we've spoken with Pete Garcia
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and I've actually spoken to a pastor from Australia
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that attended the conference that you were at several weeks ago.
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And tell us a little bit about that.
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We're going to talk a little bit about one of your messages there.
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We're going to answer the question that you ask,
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will the West survive?
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Very provocative.
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But talk to us about your experience there,
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the people, the state of the church.
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Go ahead.
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Well, the good news is the remnant always is alive.
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Okay, so there's remnant pastors,
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there's remnant believers, but they're small,
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smaller than what people think.
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And the majority of Australia's churches are woke.
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They're basically governmental institutions
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that just push vaccines.
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They push lockdowns.
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They push whatever the government tells them to do.
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So the situation in Australia is about five years ahead
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of where America will be if we stay on this path
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as far as the churches are concerned.
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And what's happening here is a grassroots movement.
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It's not it's not being led by the pastor.
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So that conference that was put on that I went to and attended
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was grassroots motivated.
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It was not a pastor calling us over there to do this.
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And that's what I'm seeing worldwide,
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if it is like travel through Europe
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and I travel in Australia and New Zealand,
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it's not the pastor's asking us to come over and speak.
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It's the grassroots remnant doing this
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and organizing conferences.
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And I'll tell you this too, David,
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we're not being asked anymore by pastors and churches
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to come speak at their church.
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We're, it's coming from grassroots.
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And that tells you something about even here in America.
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A lot of the churches that used to invite us
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to do a prophecy conference or whatnot, they're woke now.
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They don't, they don't invite us anymore.
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And especially after October 7th when Israel's attack,
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it really became a dividing line.
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These pastors took the wrong side.
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They took the wrong side on the issue of Israel
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and they won't invite us back anymore.
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So what I am seeing globally, David,
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this is not just an America.
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What I am seeing globally is the remnants there.
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They're small, but they're lacking leadership.
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There's no pastors leading this anymore.
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So what they're doing is they're tuning in to people
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like you and me to get their information
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about what's going on in the world.
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Wow.
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I mean, one of the most common emails that I used to get
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was where can I find a good church?
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And these are some people that aren't even from our area.
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And I know there are different directories out there,
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but we need to move on.
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We mentioned Israel, October 7th.
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I briefly want you to touch on that
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because you said that you spent some time there.
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You were on a trip there.
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Was that in the fall?
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Was that early this year?
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Tell us about that.
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You were helping IDF with their supplies.
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God bless you.
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Thank you for doing that.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, we have contacts in Israel
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where we can actually supply the IDF directly
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with drones, bulletproof vests, gear, knee pads,
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everything they needed because they didn't have it actually.
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And so because of our contacts,
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we were able to supply a lot of those types of equipment.
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So we had made two, if you want to call it missionary trips
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down to Israel over to Israel in December and January,
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supplying those types of things.
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And what we found on the ground was shocking
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and eye opening about what's going on in Israel
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and the relationship to Israel with the United States
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and what's happening.
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There was a major intelligence failure there.
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And this is what we gleaned from this.
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And many of the top general consuls were informed
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that they were going to be attacked multiple, multiple times.
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And they ignored it.
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They didn't think that Hamas had the capabilities
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of doing what they're doing.
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So there was a major intelligence failure.
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But here's what you have to understand, David.
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The intelligence failure has to do with a political element
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because the top generals are led by progressive leftists
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at the top of the IDF.
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And that goes in concert with what the United States
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is wanting Israel to do.
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So basically Israel gets its weapons from the United States
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and is now being told by the United States,
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you will do what we tell you to do.
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You will form a two-state solution
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and we're not gonna start a war in the North with Hezbollah
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because we have a pro-Iranian policy.
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And anti-Israel policy, that's what's coming out of this.
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And I'm telling you what, what's getting ready to happen?
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Is there separations getting ready to happen
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between Israel and the United States
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because Israel is facing an existential threat
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to its survival.
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And the United States saying, look, you're gonna accept
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the Palestinian Authority
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and we're not gonna do anything
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though I ran to upset Iran.
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And you're gonna play by the rules
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because we fund you and we give you weapons.
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So we're at a crossroads.
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I'm telling you, it's setting up Israel
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to be on their own, but they can't be on their own.
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They can't defend themselves
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because they don't have the weapons to do it.
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The very scary thing and what we're finding out
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is the Israel's military doesn't even make its own bullets.
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It doesn't even make its own gear.
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It supplies the totally dependent on the United States
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and the Biden administration has an anti-Israel policy.
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It's so scary.
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Yeah, disappointing, concerning, not surprising
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when we've seen what the Obama Biden administration did
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years ago supporting Iran sending billions of dollars.
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And not even Christians, I think the average American
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is just fed up with this
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because first of all, it's our tax dollars
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going to do enemies of Israel but Iran.
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Anyway, that's for another time.
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So Israel is more vulnerable.
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It's they were an ally, the Trump administration
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had some great policies there, but anyway, yeah,
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we're going to see depending on what happens,
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if there's an election this year, 2024.
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Right, exactly.
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Excuse me, in America, and we'll see what happens
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after that, who gets elected
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and if there's going to be support for Israel.
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But these are fascinating times.
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We've got to take a quick break when we come back
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with Pastor Brandon Holthouse.
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We're going to talk about the intentional destruction
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of America.
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So, Brad and Holthouse, Rock Harbor Church,
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Bakersfield, California, and it's rockharborchurch.net.
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You did a presentation over there in Australia.
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A lot of information in here, but will the West survive?
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What do you want to start with today?
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Well, what people I think need to understand
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is what is preventing the globalists
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from achieving their ultimate goals,
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whether you're talking about the world economic forum,
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the UN or whatever, just global elites.
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United States stands in the way of that.
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And so there has been an intentional destruction
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of the United States.
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It's been going on, I go back to Obama or even before that.
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And now it's really taking shape.
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And they knew they had to destroy the United States
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in order to be able to go to this next movement
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of a global government.
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And what's been happening and I outlined several factors
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that we need to keep in mind.
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First of all, the intentional economic division
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that's been happening in our society
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of them erasing the middle class.
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One of the things if you're going to get a dependent
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populist is you've got to get everybody poor.
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And so you see this intentional destruction
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of our economy with the green agenda,
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which is decimating countries.
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All you have to do is look at Sri Lanka
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and any country that it's employed the green agenda,
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it's destroyed their economy.
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Where we're doing that now and it's creating
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to have and have not.
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The elite class has everything
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and everyone else is going to be poor,
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which is what they're doing.
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The second thing is to introduce tribalism.
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Tribalism is getting people to get away from patriotism
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and nationalism towards I identify with my particular group,
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whether that's LGBT trans or some type of ethnic identity
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and separating America out from having
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a common value system and being loyal to that value system
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to saying no, we're going to separate people into tribes
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to cause disunity, it's kind of a divide and conquer.
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And one of the major ways of doing this
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is illegal immigration.
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And according to the stats, it's Biden got in there.
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You've got over 10 million illegal immigration people
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coming into our country that don't share our Western values,
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that are coming from China.
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They're coming from the Middle East
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and they're bringing their doctrines
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and sometimes a threat of criminal activity.
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And that's causing more, not only an economic strain on us,
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but it's causing more division
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because these people don't, they don't like America.
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Here's people who are importing that hate America,
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but they want to live here.
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I don't get it and they're breaking our laws to do it.
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So you have that going on.
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And then what's happening is this happened during Trump
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is the revealing of the deep state,
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but we have a broad receipt of unelected officials
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that we have never put into office
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that are making decisions for the entire country.
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And this is happening in Australia, New Zealand,
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it's happening in Europe,
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where you have these bureaucracies
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that are making decisions for its citizens
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and you and I don't have a say in that.
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So what's coming down the pipe, for instance,
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the World Health Organization wants to the United States
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to submit to her when there's a pandemic
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and that we would give over sovereign rights
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to the World Health Organization
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to make medical decisions if we should have a pandemic.
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And that's coming in April or May
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and the United States looks like it's going to sign off on that.
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So we have people giving away our sovereignty
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to globalist organizations.
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And so you have that going on.
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And then you have this whole concept
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of giving the American people
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or Western people global concerns
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versus taking care of really what's going on in our country.
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So the hoax of global warming,
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we need to give to the Paris Climate Accords for that.
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And we need to be concerned about sustainability
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and the 17 goals of the United Nations
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and worrying more about that
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than the homeless situation here on the streets
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or our economy.
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And what's really happening, David,
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is the biggest wealth transfer is happening
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right in front of our eyes
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where they're taking our money to give it to global concerns
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and making us pay for it.
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So yeah, the kind of items I brought out in my presentation.
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Yeah, the most obvious recently is Ukraine.
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I mean, how much have we given now to Ukraine
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and a globalist government?
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A million dollars, that's how much?
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How much?
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A hundred and thirteen billion dollars
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has been given to Ukraine for what?
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I don't know, a proxy war against Russia
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and what's happened, David,
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we have ran out of munitions because of that.
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We can't even defend ourselves if we had to go to war
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because we've given so much to Ukraine.
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And I don't want to get into all the deep stuff
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that's going on in the Ukraine, but for goodness' sake,
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look, if we're all that's going to take
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is a Middle East war to spike up there,
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which is Joe Biden is inviting that.
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And then we will have two fronts we have to deal with,
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Russia and the Ukraine,
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and then we'll have to deal with a Middle Eastern
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Iranian type of war.
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We're not prepared for that.
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No.
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It's interesting we've given so much money already.
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Now, let's just be clear, the church over there
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in Ukraine is in need.
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There are people that are innocent civilians.
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There are a lot of families that have been displaced.
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So there's a very big need there.
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But the money, you think, a globalist government,
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there, a corrupt government,
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you think they're going to give the money to the people?
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It's just same thing.
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We've seen that in America.
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Money goes out to all these federal programs,
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but it doesn't get to the people who need it.
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It goes to bureaucracy and other things.
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Brand, and you mentioned unelected people in power.
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I call them power elites, which is really,
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it's mind-boggling when you think about America,
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our history, we the people,
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and the power should be in the people to elect.
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And I think of the first name when you said
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that was Anthony Fauci.
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How much power he had in the platform,
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he had during a crisis, and people just trusted the guy.
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Oh, my, just your thoughts on that before we move on.
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Well, that's the trend, and really it's a spiritual thing.
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How did Anthony Fauci get so much power
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and everyone just bowing knee to him?
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I think it's a spiritual answer.
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It's the spirit of the anti-Christ,
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the spirit of lawlessness that's working
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to bring the world to a head,
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because you can't explain it in any other way.
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For instance, have anyone explain how clout Schwab
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has so many people bowing knee to him,
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doing exactly what the world economic forum wants him to do?
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This guy has no power, he's got no money,
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but yet everyone bows knee to him.
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I can only explain that from a spiritual standpoint
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with the spirit of anti-Christ,
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setting the whole thing up,
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and causing this spiritual stupor to go on in people.
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Think about this.
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The T.S. Desmond brought out the stats
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on mass psychosis formation.
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About 95% of the people will do what they're told to do,
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even if they know that it's wrong.
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Why is that?
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That well, the only thing you can explain it to
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is it's got to be a spiritual reality of that.
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And only 5% will have discernment,
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and I think that 5% are the discerning Christians
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that know their Bible.
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Let's go back to something you said about the division
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of society, because Christians need to know
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how to respond to this pastor Brandon.
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And one of the chapters in my new book
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is called the Marxist Cult of D.E.I.
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And for people that are just now catching up,
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diversity, equity, and inclusion,
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that has taken over the university level,
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it's in the K through 12 government schools,
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and corporations, it's on steroids.
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And it's not about fairness, it's not about equality,
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but they've changed the language.
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They are purposely dividing people,
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but here in the church, you think we'd have a safeguard,
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the word of God and our pastors,
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you think the church would not be divided,
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you mentioned that the church
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has even divided over Israel.
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So share your thoughts on what we can do to discern
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this purposeful division into groups and classes,
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which is Marxism, but share your thoughts
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on what the average Christian,
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we kind of see this happening,
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but it's hard to know how to respond.
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Well, what's happening is after the shutdowns,
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and even after the attack on Israel,
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wokeism, which is cultural Marxism,
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as you pointed out, entered the church,
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and it's co-opted in any of the pastor.
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So here's an example, these pastors got up there
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and said, we need to all apologize for our white privilege.
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We're inherently racist, and we need to repent of that.
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Or they'll say, even on this sexuality thing,
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because the diversity equity inclusion includes sexuality.
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So now the new thing is the pastors get in front of the church
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and say, hey, you know what,
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you're born this way with a sexual orientation.
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So as long as you don't act on your gayness
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or your lesbianism or your transgenderism,
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you're okay with identifying as a Christian gay
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or a Christian lesbian, which is insane, right?
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That's a hallmark.
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And then the other thing about Israel,
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as another example, they will say
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that Israel is an occupier
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and that it treats the Palestinian's bad
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and it will take the total wrong side
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on the issue of Israel on a biblical level.
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That's a clue, that's a red flag,
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or they won't say anything about it,
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about the Israel, because what happens is,
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in the cultural Marxism,
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Israel gets put into white privilege
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and gets put in the category of oppressor in Marxism,
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and that's how she's viewed from the progressive left.
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That's why your church is that have been co-opted by Marxism
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won't either say anything against Israel
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or actually go against Israel.
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So it's infused into the church now.
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It's a perfect storm.
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And what I mean by that is,
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you've got biblical illiteracy
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and much of the church sadly in America
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and you've got these ideas being taught
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in the education system,
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which most Christian families
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still send their kids to these indoctrinated centers.
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There's a study that just came out brand
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and from Barnett, director of research,
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Arizona, Christian University,
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the cultural research center,
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and sadly Americans are rejecting God.
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Youth have a very low chance,
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I think it's in the teens,
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or actually it's in the single digits,
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of having a biblical worldview.
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So there's not a lot of hope there.
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The reason is their parents
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do not have a biblical worldview.
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We've seen those studies.
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It's down to two or four percent today,
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parents of young children
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that have a biblical worldview.
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So the church has got to understand this is our culture,
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this is our country,
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and we've got to be better at knowing the word of God
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and standing on the truth.
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We've got like three minutes left in the show,
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whatever you want to say to comment on that.
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Well, let me add to that what you're seeing,
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and it's happening to the millennials in Gen Z,
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and we're not gonna get them back
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through rock and roll concert and smoke and life.
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Let me tell you what's going on.
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There is a spiritual problem in the West.
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I just pulled these stats recently.
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Generation Z is the least religious generation
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in American history.
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More than one third, maybe 34% of Gen Z
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are religiously unaffiliated.
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And so it's getting worse and worse.
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And the point about these stats, this stats don't lie.
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There is a irreligious movement among the young people.
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And who do you want to blame for that?
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Number one, you blame the church
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because if you're entertaining them by a pastor swinging
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on a wrecking ball,
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that's not what they're gonna go for, that's crazy.
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But the second thing is through social media
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and this is the primary vehicle
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that has actually duped a lot of the younger people
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is through that vehicle,
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they have taken them away from Christianity
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to a more irreligious spirituality,
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new age, whatever you wanna call it.
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And so we have a major problem.
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And then you're totally right.
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We keep sending our kids to in the indoctrination centers
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of the public schools and colleges' universities.
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We shouldn't be surprised by the results we get.
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It is a disaster.
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And it's hitting now.
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Was it, by the way, Barnas says he summed that up,
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that study by saying America is on the precipice
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of Christian invisibility.
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But was it Vody Bachum that said,
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why should we be surprised if we send our children
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to the government and they end up acting like Romans
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and being secular?
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It shouldn't surprise us.
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I paraphrase the quote, but that's the idea.
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It's like we're going, oh my goodness,
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what happened to our kids?
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They're social justice activists.
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And they're not informed.
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They don't know American history.
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They don't know world history.
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Brand and there's a lot of problems.
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We weren't expecting to solve them in a half hour here.
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With you, but I just thank you brother
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for your teaching, your stand, your ministry.
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And I wanna send people out there.
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If you're in that area, go to rockharborchurch.net.
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What else you wanna share about your church?
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Or about what you have coming up?
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We do have a church tracker on our website.
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So if you're looking for a remnant church.
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Oh great.
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Son of a church tracker.
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Okay, great.
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That'll be helpful.
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So rockharborchurch.net, church tracker.
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Lord willing, we will do this again, brother.
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It goes by really fast.
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Thanks for your time today.
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God bless your ministry.
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Thank you, David.
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Thank you.
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All right guys, what a blessing.
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I'm so, I always get charged up and encouraged
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after these interviews and after I get to talk to some
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of the people I do, the great men and women of God.
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We now know as the remnant, right?
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But thanks for watching for sharing.
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God bless you.
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And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.