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Let's go. Welcome in everyone too, Bangor
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Management, The fantasy hockey podcast with Jake, Josh and
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Kevin. Kevork.
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As always, today we're going to be doing our Week 18 News and
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updates episode. We're going to be going over
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topics such as the trades around the league, namely the JT Miller
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trade, as well as some other ones, and unfortunately tons of
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injuries to discuss. Yeah.
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could check the linked tree, which is in the podcast
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description. So let's dive right into it.
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JT Miller has been traded. Does the value grow up on the
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Rangers? With the worst playoff schedule,
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would you sell high right now? And how does Heidi's value
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change on the Canucks? This is a huge trade.
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Finally it happened. I feel we've been talking about
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this for weeks. If.
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We knew it was going to be the yeah.
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Yeah, we knew it was going to be the Rangers, but yeah, I think
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this is pretty great for everyone.
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I don't think there's many players.
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There's only one player in my mind that loses out big time and
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that's whoever gets bumped off New York Power Play 1.
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And that would either be Crider or no.
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I think it's Trocheck actually has been has been bumped.
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Off. So it was Laugh got a chance
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there. He didn't really work out.
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Then they put Cryder back on. Then they bumped Trojak.
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They bumped cried at first. Then they bump.
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Yeah, check. And then it worked better when
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they bumped Trocheck. Yeah.
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So I. Think, I think Trocheck guys
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lost his spot on that first place.
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I think out of this whole trade, he's the big loser.
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Miller, it's a huge win for him. He.
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Looks so good on the Ranger. He's already what 2 multi point
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games and it's like 2 games on the.
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Right off the bat, we can say Jake was wrong.
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Yeah, exactly. As expected as value went way up
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after the trade. I will say that Rangers have the
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worst playoff schedule if your playoffs are week 22 to 24,
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which is why I wasn't targeting him in a in a Bilo trade.
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But ignoring the playoff schedule, it's a huge boost to
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JT Miller owners. And then in terms of Vancouver,
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I don't think we've seen yet that boost to Peterson that I'm
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expecting to see. But I mean, there's also the
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fact that Hughes has been out the past couple games, which
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coincided with the trade. So we'll see what happens when
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Hughes is back healthy and the dust has settled from the trade,
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but I expect Peterson's value to go up.
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Yeah, I think if you're AJ Miller owner, you're thrilled,
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especially if you need him to make the playoffs, because I
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think he's just going to be a stud rest of season.
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His hits, his shots, his face off wins, his points, they're
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all going to be excellent. But I do want to raise the point
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that is this where you trade him high because of that playoff
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schedule? Like if you're a playoff team,
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if you're a top three team, you're a top four team, you
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know, you're you're surely making the playoffs.
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Do you try to make a lateral move for a guy that has a better
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playoff schedule? I would 100% this is it doesn't
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matter how good a player is if he only plays two times in a
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week, he has a lot less value than a guy at a similar tier who
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plays three times or four times in that week.
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This is the point in the year I mean really like I plan for
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playoff schedule starting from day one, you know, but if you
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don't think that far in advance, that's OK.
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And this is the point where if you're comfortable in a playoff
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spot, you should be planning for playoff schedule and making all
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sorts of trades to buff up. You know it doesn't matter how
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good your opponents team is, if you play 10 more games than
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them, you're going to beat them. So now's the time.
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I would definitely sell. High Who's the best player you
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think you can get one for one? I think you can get a lot of
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like round one draft picks. He Miller was probably around
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one draft pick in in any league in most bangers leagues at
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least. And he's showing that he's going
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to be kind of crazy for at least you know of his short stint with
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Rangers right now. And I think it's going to last.
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So you get a top tier guy. You can't get, you can't get me
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David, you can't get McKinnon, you can't get dressed at all.
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I think those guys are all going before hurt rent and just got
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traded. You can get ranted and easily
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though. Would you rather have Rantanen?
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No, I'd rather have Miller. I'd rather have Miller only
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because rather than one schedule, Brandon like the
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schedule is not better enough to warrant the trade.
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So I would keep Miller just because Brandon also doesn't
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have a great post schedule. Pass it for sure.
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Yeah, I'll take that have been absolutely ridiculous.
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I don't think people are gonna treat.
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Him. He has two games in the
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semifinals. I'm pretty.
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Sure. Yeah, he's a 424, but they have
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really good matchups. So if you could, if you think
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you have a lot of four-game guys for that semi and you can make
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up for the two game week, then either way it's better than the
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332 that Miller is. So I'll take that.
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Yeah, you can't get no Austin Matthews.
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Yeah. When I was there, but he has two
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games in the 24 so not really getting better there but you.
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Are getting better. One more game in the two weeks
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prior. Yeah.
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So kill Makar, I think Makar would be.
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That's probably a smart. Move.
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Yeah, I would do that. That feels like the worst I'd go
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though at this point. Yeah, I mean, also, like, you
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don't have to do one for one. You can do like a get a package
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of two guys with good playoff schedules who are like, you
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know, slightly worse. But essentially, yeah, I would
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definitely be looking at improving the playoff schedule.
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Anyone on the ring. I don't want anyone on the
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Rangers on my team if my playoffs are Week 22 to 24, let
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alone my most. Important What's gonna happen?
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Whoever has the Rangers on their playoff team is gonna just be
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blessed while with them somehow getting like 3 points each.
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Yeah. Like those two games, they're
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gonna average like 3 points over two games.
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Like it's always possible but I like stacking the deck in my
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favor so more games is more. Chance do we think that's a
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Banjo stays as a winger on line one with Miller and Panarin?
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I mean they been doing so well I don't see why they would change.
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It I I told you two games, right?
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I mean, like, who knows? Because The thing is, if that's
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the case, then it doesn't really manage that are gonna play line
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two or three because that what happens there is that whoever
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gets line 3 is kind of screwed. But the only difference is just
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not getting face off wins, which mostly don't have face off wins.
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And we already assumed that it was going to be that line.
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We just thought it would be managed in the middle and J on
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the right. And the increasing points he's
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gonna get from having Miller on his line.
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It's more than make up for. Must be so much better.
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Yeah it sucks cause the 1st place guy in our league has
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advantage. Ads So the only thing is that I
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think that the Rangers now have a chance to have like the best
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centre depth in the league and Brodzinski doesn't really cut
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it. Johnny Broadway.
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If they could put some bandage out there instead, then I think
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that. Why would you want a bandage on
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their bottom like in their bottom?
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Still, with Crowder and Cooley, there's nothing wrong with that.
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It's an amazing line. It really balances it out and I
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think. He just wishes because he has.
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No, I don't even care. It's just at the end of the day,
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it's like something that I would think that whoever those two
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line 3 probably is, their value would go down.
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Yeah. So this is good for Miller, but
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it's a situational thing if. You mean this is like the
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Rangers are fighting for a playoff spot?
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They're gonna do whatever wins them games.
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So whatever configuration it is when they start winning games,
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which I think they've been doing pretty well lately, so they're
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going to stick with that until things start going wrong.
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So I don't see any reason for them to change things up until
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they start losing. Yeah, that's fair.
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That's fair. It's gonna be it's gonna be an
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interesting ride to the rest of the season.
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So let's move on to the next one.
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We got Frost and Ferrabee to Calgary and Kuzmenko to.
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Philly and Pelletier. Yeah, Kuzmenko and Pelletier to
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Philly. What do we think about this?
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It's a fun trade I think in terms of actual hockey, not
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fantasy. I like this for Calgary more
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than Philly. Calgary's all in and did you see
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that? He said.
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They're not trading any of their other win now pieces.
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They were not trading card, we're not trading and they're
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not trading weaker. This doesn't like, what I like
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about this move for Calgary is this isn't like an all these
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aren't rentals, you know, These are young players who haven't
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been reaching their potential under a Tortorella team, you
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know, and now you're giving them the chance like more feed him
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more ice time. People love therapy like the
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actual NHL. I mean, last year he had our
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streak where he was like on fire.
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Remember Jake, you picked him up and he was just crazy.
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He was like point over point per game for like a solid month.
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So and Frost has been really good also and like times like
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the last couple of years. So both of them have the
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potential. I think they're given the chance
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to shine. There's a lot of gaps in that
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lineup where guys could come in and make a big difference.
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So I like it a lot for Calgary. I immediately would have both
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these guys on my watch list. I wouldn't necessarily jump to
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pick them up immediately and. Spent $4.00 on.
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Figured it was fine but yeah I will say that the Athletic had a
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player pulled like an NHL player poll and it was what coach would
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you least like to play for? Tortorella was a 38.5 and then
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in second was Bruce Cassidy at 12 point.
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Three. That doesn't surprise.
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Me so the fact that like not only is it a fantasy relevant
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thing, it's a real life thing. I mean he he gets his teams to
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win like they do win. It's just there's no consistency
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in real life for the players individually and for fantasy it.
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Translates. I think he's like, he's really
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good at, like you said, like making the team do well, but he
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does not care about any individual player doing well,
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you know, Like he'll, he'll, he'll scratch your starting guy,
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you know, yeah, that's it. Like sometimes you need to like
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let your stars be stars, you know?
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But he'll like, we've seen him scratch his like top point guy,
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you know, and multiple seasons in a row there was like, it was
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either last year, two years ago, Kevin Hayes was leading the team
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in points scratched. This year, Mitch Gov scratch,
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you know, like he's not afraid to do that.
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And sometimes it is the right move.
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But for fantasy, it sucks. So any team, any guy leaving a
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Tortorella team immediately jumps up in value.
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Like now, Now we're talking about Kuzmenko going the other
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way. This is like the worst guy
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starter relay. Yeah, it's amazing and.
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Help make lineups on non Tortorella teams.
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Like was he over under on games until he gets scratched?
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He's one. Yeah. 1 1/2.
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He's having visa issues right now, so it's like -1 and this
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one. Game he's looking to backtrack
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on a shift in Torias gonna like say like trade him.
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These issues is like the most ice time he's gonna get.
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I can't understand this move for the.
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Floor, I think maybe they want some chemistry with Michkov,
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like I don't know if that's a long term, you know, potential,
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but as long as. It was a good prospect so I
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think Flames fans were much more upset to lose penalty than they
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were to. Lose.
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But The thing is, Kuzmenko was almost waved.
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Waved and no one claimed him. Kuzmenko, I'm pretty sure.
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I think Peltier was waived and nobody claimed him and I think
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it was Michael was is very possible like both of these
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guys, you know? This is a big thing for Calgary
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and I don't really see the direction Philly's going with,
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but I guess we'll see. But.
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They got rid of these guys because they didn't want to have
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to pay them what they were gonna have to pay them.
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Yeah. So they would rather like keep
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that money and use it elsewhere as opposed to like paying Frost
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as a $4 million for to be there like two or three C.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because,
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well, Peltier was a first round pick, but so was Farabee, and so
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was. Frost.
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So I think that this is gonna do pretty well for you in deep
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leagues if you have Frost or Farabee.
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I don't like the guys going to Philly for fantasy purposes.
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Yep. So we'll see.
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Grandland 2, Dallas playing line 2, Power play 2 with Marchment
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and Duchene. Oh my God, Josh.
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The douche. Douche man.
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I like to leave little Easter eggs in the in the show doc for
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Jackie to stumble into alive. You gotta read it.
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Though unfortunately, oh God, I had to pivot.
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Yeah. Marchment and the douche man.
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That is exactly so it shall be written.
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So it shall be done. OK Yeah.
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So I think that this is really good for Dallas for real life
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purposes. Incredible.
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And I. Think it sucks for grand do?
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You think so? Yeah.
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The only good thing about it for grand orders is that Dallas has
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a great playoff schedule. But he's gonna be, you know, in
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San Jose, like he was the guy, you know, like, obviously like
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celebrity coming in is like the new guy.
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But like Grantland was playing with him on power play 1.
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You know, like Grantland was line one over Solimini.
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Like he was really like the guy. I mean, yeah, air quotes line 1
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and it was like, whatever, same ice time.
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But but yeah, I know Brandon was the guy in San Jose.
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And you see this a lot when like guys are having great seasons on
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a kind of garbage team and then they get traded like around the
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deadline to like a contending team.
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And then they get like dropped into the, you know, middle 6.
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And then they just lose a lot of their value.
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So I don't like this as a grand as a grandmother.
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I be trying to sell high if you can.
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Yeah, I agree, especially because Dallas is like a bigger
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name. So you can say that OHT, now
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he's on a better team that scores more.
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So yeah, he's good. He'll be a part of that.
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But no, it's very common that a formerly good or above average
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player gets, you know, shuffled into the mid 6, as you said, and
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then it just doesn't, it doesn't go well.
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That's actually why I'm not as high on JT Miller as both of you
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in this two game sample size. It's looking pretty bad for my
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perspective, but for the general idea, like I don't usually like
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when players get traded mid-season because there's a lot
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that goes into it, like yeah, for them to really get
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acclimatized. Whereas if you get traded in the
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offseason, you have like a month plus to training game chemistry
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with. The team, yeah, but it's a
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little different when it's like a star like Miller getting
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traded because then he's like getting traded to go immediately
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line one, power play one, whereas like it's more of a
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yeah, exactly. But I will say sorry before like
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one more thing I will say it is not necessarily the end of the
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world to be Middlesex on Dallas because we've said this like a
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ton throughout the year. Dallas is a team that they
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really play their top three lines very evenly and they're
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both power play units are pretty split pretty evenly.
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So if there's a team to get lost in the mix, Dallas is a better
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one. So I think it's a dip for him,
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but not the end of the world. I was going to say that we saw
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right away, which is really unfortunate for Johnson owners.
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He got bumped down all the way to line 3C, which is just wild
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with how much success he's been having before.
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Like why? Why even mess with that?
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And I think this helps Duchene a lot the most because he got
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bumped up to the douche bag. I thought the P1, which is great
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for his value and his linemates already on 5/5 just got
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significantly better. Yeah.
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And he's been he's been like low Kia stud for fantasy for a long
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time this year. So I think for him, his value
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kind of like the baseline of it goes up for the rest of the
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season and he's the guy that be targeting to try to trade 4
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given the playoff schedule. You just kinda gotta be careful
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not to overpay because his game log is pretty nuts.
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Yeah, this is such a good team. Yeah, such an amazing team.
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OK, we have Shane Pinto day-to-day with an upper body
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injury. Norris is out week to week and
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Giroud is taking the spot on power.
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Play one with Ridley. Ridley, Greg playing line 2.
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Centre I also thought it was. Great.
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I think it's Greg. I'm gonna say Greek.
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We could. We could try.
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This Ridley, Greg, either gonna Ridley Scott.
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Sorry, great. Scott.
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Scott. Yeah, I, I just remember when he
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was in the World Juniors, they said, Ridley, Greg, that's how I
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made. But maybe they were all
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mispronouncing. It yeah, that's it so great,
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right and. They're yeah.
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Exactly. The main thing the main take
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away from this I think is I mean Pinto wasn't on most fantasy
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rosters beforehand, nor is week to week is a huge blow for them
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in the top 6. I think he was, you know a guy
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that was potential line 1 for them.
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But Giroud gets the most value out of this.
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Bumping up to P1 is huge for his value because without the P1 on
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Ottawa it's like you know your value can only get so high and
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green getting some line 2 ice time and power play two time
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it's nice but he's like a very deep deep league play.
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I would not roster him besides that.
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Yeah, agreed. It's Ottawa.
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Really interesting cause they have one of the best playoff
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schedules also. So I've been trying to target a
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lot of Ottawa guys, specifically Norris.
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So now I'm kind of happy that, yeah, I didn't get him, but but
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yeah, no, this is huge. For Norris is squishy, we've
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said. This before so there's a lot of
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times. So it seems like a lot of that
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team is squishy. So yeah, no, it's definitely
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just pretty much impacts you. We'll pick up here.
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Yeah, don't forget to mention Tage Thompson.
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I think we skipped over that point, Ricky.
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Yep. Yeah, Tage Thompson day-to-day
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with an upper body injury. Alex Tuck is taking his spot on
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power play one. As we record this tough.
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Got three points against me last night.
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Yeah, devastated. He did the same thing when I
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played him like weeks ago. He got after like 0 points for
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like 2 weeks, got gets a hat trick and then doesn't play me
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gets another zero points for two weeks.
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And then plays me and gets 3. Points.
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Modern day Adam Lowry and Mark Stone.
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Yeah. Done that to me in the past 2.
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Years unfortunate. Yeah.
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So, yeah, obviously this is huge for talk.
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This is terrible for the rest of the Sabres because Thompson is
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the best player, but. We're still guys.
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I think it's I saw the hit. It looked pretty bad.
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But I mean, I think he played a bit more like, yeah, he's not
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gonna be out for long, so I wouldn't take too much talking
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to this. But if you and Alex Tuck, he's
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gonna get a nice little bump for a couple days, so that's fun.
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Yeah, you think they're going to sell players, you were saying?
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Yep, I think cousins for. Gone.
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Like the question is very good. He's definitely gone.
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They just like he's not playing his day-to-day because he's
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banged up, so. Air quotes yeah, yeah, I will
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say that kind of how we said that anyone who leaves it
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Tordella team immediately gets a lot of value.
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We've seen in the past years anyone who leaves Buffalo
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immediately wins a Stanley Cup and becomes an All Star.
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So keep an eye out because whoever gets traded out of
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Buffalo, I think they got a big. Guy, he's gonna go, he's gonna
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be a 2. See on the team.
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It just depends on which team. Yeah.
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So I'm looking forward to that. The Cousins owner, I just hope
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the team with a good playoff schedule, Well, not a terrible
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playoff schedule. Yeah.
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The teams are bad, playoff schedules aren't in first centre
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anyways I don't think. That's fair.
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Yeah, I'm just thinking where he would go, but yeah.
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Cousins like Nashville, it's Carolina.
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Montreal. That would be fun.
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That would be. Fun.
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What's the team that recently made a move to get rid of some
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cap? I don't know, imagine Vancouver.
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That could be fun. Colorado.
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Colorado. You have a bunch of getting
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around in there, definitely making another big move.
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So yeah, they. Are be that it could be.
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Treated with Buffalo last year. They needed they needed that for
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Byron. They need to see cause middle
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that's not working out Yeah they.
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Don't give us another one. They got Parson in out of the
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trade for. Nashville.
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The the person and he's like line 4 see.
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Right now, yeah. Casey, Middlesex.
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Huh. OK.
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Bottom four, Yeah. Bottom four Line 4.
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Sorry. Next we've got Logan Cooley is
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out indefinitely. Huge blow.
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Dylan Gunther's back. Dylan bumped off power play 1.
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Hayden has coolly spot there for now.
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They see me rolling. They played their Gunther.
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That's not it and I'm sorry. Been line 1 as of Cooley being
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out. There not power play one.
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Not power play one, but line 1. So he's actually been like
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decently really deeply that also counts faceoffs.
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But this is just bad for most players because.
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Well, I feel like the Cooley out guenther back kind of just
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cancels out. Yeah, actually gets better than
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Cooley. So it's like this is a slight
17:54
win, but obviously role, yeah. So that's definitely a blow.
17:59
While it's like, you know, the Aladdin, you know, you're
18:02
smiling, but you're not smiling. But yeah, I know.
18:07
So this is, it's interesting. I knew Don was going to get
18:10
bumped off play one. I called that a few weeks ago.
18:12
But it's interesting that Hayden kept the spot there.
18:14
We started off, yeah. He started off the season really
18:16
good, really well. And he went on like kind of like
18:19
a hot streak like a week or two ago.
18:21
So he's an interesting pickup in a league that has a face.
18:24
He wins a lot of faceoffs and he takes a decent amount of shots,
18:27
so. I'm kind of worried for Utah
18:28
now. I feel like they're just getting
18:29
so banged up. But yeah, it's just going to
18:32
fall apart soon. Do you see they have like a some
18:34
final names for? Yeah.
18:36
And then like one of them just got eliminated.
18:38
Yeah, right away. And there was some.
18:42
Yeah. And what is like, What is it?
18:44
And then like Utah, people had to explain it's like a super
18:47
niche thing in Utah, but they're like, but I had to look that up
18:49
too. Yeah.
18:51
And then they replaced it with. You would have been sick, but
18:54
did you see what they're gonna do about that because they
18:56
couldn't get the trademark for? Yeti Yeti coolers.
18:58
So yeah, which is dumb, but they said that they're gonna just
19:02
like call it something else and still like Loki use a Yeti as
19:05
their logo, just like not call it the Yeti.
19:08
So it's just like, yeah, the Yeti is part of our marketing,
19:11
but we're not saying it's daddy or whatever, so.
19:14
They could just call themselves the Bigfoot, yeah.
19:17
These next two points suck, but let's start Marner day-to-day
19:21
with a lower body injury. Morgan Riley taking his spot on
19:24
power play one, which is a funny thing.
19:25
There's, you know, defenseman replacing Riley is awful.
19:28
He said, yeah, he's not ideal. This sucks.
19:31
This is like a true data day though.
19:33
I know Jake is a Mitch Marner owner, so he's.
19:35
Doing blooming. But yeah, no, he's gonna be
19:37
back. At the very least he'll be back
19:39
after the break. And there's only like one or two
19:41
more games between now and the break.
19:42
So it's not, it's not the end of the world.
19:44
It does suck. I think that's why we're seeing
19:46
so many injuries happen right now.
19:47
It's kind of like ohhhhh. I don't wanna play in the Four
19:49
Nations. I'm injured.
19:51
It's like, well I think people want to play in the Four
19:53
Nations. I guess it depends on the
19:55
player, but one or two games before the Four Nations starts.
19:57
So people are just like if your little hurt like might as well
20:00
just take. The extra 100%.
20:02
So that's what we're seeing. That's really annoying.
20:04
Though illnesses going around everywhere.
20:06
Yeah, so that too, all the NHL players need to stop, like
20:08
making out with each other and getting.
20:11
I hope that's pretty serious. The whole team's going to cloud.
20:15
Marshawn, like looking at you. Yeah, Werenski is out to
20:21
day-to-day, Marchenko out six to eight weeks.
20:24
That's a huge blow for. Columbia.
20:25
Awful. Yeah, Pro Provorov took Werenski
20:28
spawn on power play one. Cylinder took Marchenko spot on
20:31
line one, power play one. And yeah, this makes everybody
20:36
on the team worse. I think those two guys that we
20:38
took that we look at as replacements instantly get
20:41
fantasy value. However, like they can
20:43
definitely be relevant. You just got to take a look like
20:45
Provera. I put them in the same rank as
20:47
like, you know, the total D'angelo's, Yeah, whoever you're
20:49
kind of picking up as. That I mean warranties really
20:51
day-to-day it's more like the Marchenko replacement exactly,
20:53
but also like. Slender looks good though he's
20:55
had stretches where he's, yeah, high shot volume guy through the
20:58
season as well. So him getting better deployment
21:00
and more minutes on the ice I can.
21:01
See, I will say though, that like we, you know, Columbus is
21:03
like line one power play one has been unreal this year, right.
21:06
But you know that like the ship of Theseus or something where
21:10
like they replace one piece at a time and then at one point does
21:12
it become like a different ship? Yeah.
21:14
You know, it's kind of like that with Columbus's first line.
21:16
You know you're still you replace like Marchenko cylinder.
21:20
You know your place, you place. China Gov with born covets Like
21:22
at what point? Chris Monaghan with.
21:23
Pencils like yeah, exactly. So at what point is it like, you
21:26
know, is it actually that good to be on that line or is it just
21:28
a complete, is it just the second line that got bumped up
21:30
to line one because all the first line guys are out, you
21:32
know what I mean? So I think it just depends.
21:33
Those guys also played the most minutes.
21:35
So maybe for sure production, right and.
21:37
I do think that all that first line is worth rostering right
21:40
now, but I do think they are significantly worse than they
21:43
were before. You know who this is good for?
21:45
Boone Jenner. Yeah, that's true.
21:48
People ahead of him in the line of just keep getting knocked
21:50
out. He's walking around breaking
21:52
ankle breaking kneecaps. You're not taking my spot.
21:57
German offer you can't refuse. I actually just watched The
21:59
Godfather this week for the first time.
22:01
Really. Yeah.
22:01
I had to rewatch. Before even I watched it.
22:04
And yeah, it was. It was awesome.
22:06
Just the first one I got. Yeah, just we're gonna watch the
22:08
next one, like probably this weekend.
22:09
But yeah, so good. Like them, you know, for those
22:15
who are not watching because none of you are watching, but
22:17
Josh is doing a little mafia mafia face.
22:21
Ask me about my business. You know, you know Modern
22:25
Family. If you're, you know what it
22:27
does? Episodes.
22:28
Yeah, yeah. So back to hockey.
22:35
We got Quinn Hughes out day-to-day heroic, taking his
22:39
spot on power play one. I'm playing against Chronic this
22:41
week. This guy's been useless for
22:42
months. One week where he's signing out
22:46
two assists last night. Anyone who's you know with
22:48
Hughes out, he's the guy who benefits.
22:50
So you know, he's definitely the pick up until he comes back.
22:52
Hopefully he uses back soon. He's gonna be back after the
22:55
Four Nations face off. He might not play in the
22:56
tournament. They.
22:57
Said that's crazy. Because he's obviously for team.
22:59
USA huge blow the whole week, but so frustrating.
23:02
Yeah, this is like when people held on to Harley for the entire
23:05
season. Another like benefiting and it's
23:07
like you're wrong. Decision worked out, but it
23:09
doesn't mean it was a good decision.
23:10
Yeah. I think Ronnie is definitely
23:12
valuable as long as users own, yeah.
23:14
Yeah, it's the Hughes is probably one of those guys
23:18
who's, if not the guy who's most important to his team in the
23:21
recent like we saw with Darlene when like he was out.
23:23
But there's no one more than when he was like this year
23:26
especially like what's the heart is for most valuable to your
23:30
team? I think it's crazy if Hughes
23:31
doesn't win it really. I don't think first of all,
23:34
having unreal season. But it's not about book.
23:37
It's not about who's most important to their team.
23:39
Sorry. It's not about who's doing the
23:40
best. It's about who's most important
23:41
to their team. And I don't think anyone is
23:43
important to them as help is definitely in.
23:44
The think you just need to be like, you have to be like a top
23:48
five to 10 team as well to like be in the console, yeah.
23:51
If they make the playoffs, he's probably gonna be in.
23:54
Concert, they were expected to make the playoffs before it was
23:56
just like, I know everybody ahead of him is yeah, I wanna
24:01
say what you have to bleep out, but yeah.
24:03
It is crazy how I saw a stat that I think 80% of all their
24:07
goals he's involved. In which is nice.
24:09
That's just insane. That's more.
24:10
Than their team Hughes or Warenski?
24:14
Well, I. I think, I think Hughes, I think
24:17
we're monkey's unreal and I think he's the most important.
24:20
Well, The thing is there's also Marchenko who's been really
24:22
good, you know, So I say that's like the two pillars for
24:23
Columbus. Whereas with Vancouver, you
24:26
know, the guys who other than Hughes who are supposed to be
24:28
really good, like Miller or Peterson have been pretty
24:31
garbage. So it's really been just used.
24:33
Still think they're going to give it to like McKinnon or a
24:35
drive is in the name but you're. Right.
24:37
It won't be. It won't be an Edmonton guy this
24:38
year. I don't think no, no, I think
24:40
McKinnon has a chance, but I don't think he's gonna want to.
24:43
Either getting it. Interesting.
24:45
I really think it should be used, but I agree that I don't
24:47
think it will be. But I think I think Hellebuyck
24:50
has a strong. Yeah, I think he realized.
24:53
He deserves it with how he's been playing.
24:55
Yeah, if it's just if you wanna give it to a goalie.
24:57
Yep, Miro Heiskanen out for the season.
25:00
Pick up Harley yesterday. If only they were possible.
25:05
If you're listening to this, you can't pick them up yesterday.
25:07
Why did you write that, Josh? No, I didn't see the trade offer
25:10
you just got. Now, do you want to see it?
25:12
Yes, I. Do I can't see?
25:14
I'm blind? What is it?
25:15
From who? Never mind we don't get into.
25:17
That Jewelers and egg 4 backland.
25:20
Hmm, that's job. That is a tantalizing offer.
25:23
I would definitely strongly consider that one.
25:26
Yeah, that's bad. That's really bad.
25:31
That's that's an easy rejection. Yeah, yeah, I know Thomas Harley
25:35
is it's kind of like exactly the way you just put it, right?
25:38
I mean, it wasn't paying off. He was high roster percentage.
25:41
We didn't know why. And now it makes like now
25:44
obviously. Great power play quarterback
25:46
like he's actually really good at it so.
25:48
When he's buried behind he's and he shouldn't be owned because he
25:50
doesn't put up enough cats to or points to really be like held.
25:54
Do you think you can trade them for anything?
25:56
I think so. Because he's going to like
25:58
they're saying he might come back for like the last week of
26:01
the playoffs, well, the the last week before the playoffs or
26:04
whatnot. So he might, partly might carry
26:06
you all the way to the championship in fantasy and then
26:09
not be there for you. So there's a chance, but it's
26:12
just free value right now if you're able to pick him up or if
26:14
you were stashing them for some reason.
26:16
That's if you were holding on to all.
26:17
Season your advice, Don't advise that.
26:19
But it worked out. Yeah, I wonder who you can
26:21
actually get back value wise for Harley but.
26:24
I think you have to wait like a week or something like for it to
26:26
kick in. You know him to put up some
26:28
points and stuff. And at that point, you probably
26:30
have a clearer timeline for asking as well.
26:31
Yeah, yeah. How was recovery is going or
26:33
whatever? Yeah, he should definitely be
26:35
rostered and you can even trade for him now at the same time
26:39
like before things. Pick up whoever has him is.
26:41
We're not treating them. Yeah, if they held on to him
26:43
this long, then they're gonna, they're not gonna trade.
26:45
Him yeah, Matt Barzal yeah, that's that's bad.
26:50
Barzel probably out for the season.
26:51
Do Clear has taken his spot on line one, power play one.
26:55
The others have been on a crazy. Role.
26:57
It makes no sense to. Me, they've won so many games
27:00
recently which out of nowhere and we kind of expected them to
27:03
be a competitive team. The fact that they were looking
27:05
bottom five team this whole year, they were not a bottom
27:08
five team. They're not supposed to be a
27:09
bottom five team. But it didn't surprise me that
27:12
they were. I felt for years that they were
27:13
overperforming. And when they finally you.
27:16
Know crash players and a great goalie they.
27:19
Do they have a great goalie all? The great player Barzel is a
27:21
great player. And.
27:24
Dobson Solid Dobson. Road Wilson is.
27:27
Decent. Nelson's good.
27:28
He might get traded. Yeah.
27:30
I mean, actually Mr. and I'm. No, I don't understand it at
27:33
all. Like I've always thought they
27:35
were bad, but they, I mean with Trots as their head coach, like
27:38
yeah, he was amazing to lead them to success in the playoffs,
27:41
but I'm just like. We're not gonna make the.
27:44
Playoffs. But The thing is that's crazy is
27:46
they were bad to start the year, then they lost all their best
27:48
players and now they're going crazy.
27:50
It doesn't make sense. I, I like Tony DeAngelo there.
27:54
I do, yeah. I.
27:55
Realize yeah, that was a good pick up.
27:56
I like that. One yeah, I I think that he's
27:58
just always. As long as I'm not P1, sorry.
28:01
As long as he's on that P. One.
28:03
Yeah, because he always succeeds until he does something stupid.
28:06
Office. Which I mean last year he was in
28:08
the league and he was pretty bad to be honest.
28:10
Yeah last year he was averaging .3 points per game with 1.4
28:14
shots and no hits or blocks. Like you can't roster.
28:17
That no, no, for sure. But historically he's been
28:20
pretty good, and I think he did. A classic like like that, that
28:24
archetype of player. Was gonna hit your PowerPoint.
28:27
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, and yeah.
28:30
Patrick Kane is healthy and retook his spot on power play
28:33
one, but he is line 3. Do you guys see that he beat the
28:36
record for most shootout goals? NHL last night, both of them
28:42
made. Yeah, that's pretty wild.
28:45
Yeah, I, I, I think that the Red Wings are, are really kind of
28:49
coming into their. Own Yeah, like came out of
28:51
nowhere. We were suggesting to sell their
28:53
players high for awhile because I still, yeah, I still think
28:56
they're overperforming, but I do think that.
28:59
Just wouldn't be as adamant as trying to get them off my roster
29:02
because. I would because of that playoff
29:04
schedule. It's a very bad playoff
29:06
schedule. So I mean, you're getting yeah,
29:09
why do all of my guys have bad but.
29:12
It's Kevin traded you all his bad playoff schedule.
29:14
I think I no. I know.
29:15
Just kidding. OK, Yeah.
29:17
Yeah. Anyways, Patrick Kane's really
29:19
nice if you're in a deeper lease specifically his shot volume is
29:22
there and he's as long as his PP one, he'll get you some points
29:24
as well. Do.
29:24
You think they make the playoffs?
29:26
No. I think they couldn't have been,
29:28
really. Good.
29:28
I mean, it's very close right now.
29:30
I don't think those. Huh.
29:32
Yeah, the Atlantic is nuts. It's extremely close, except for
29:35
Buffalo. But honestly, like, I don't know
29:37
if this is a crazy take, but I could see New Jersey in the
29:40
playoffs. That would be wild.
29:42
I don't even. Really, really bad lately and
29:45
by. Lately for awhile.
29:46
I don't know. I think it's, I don't think it's
29:48
that out of the question. That would be nuts.
29:50
The team behind them is Columbus, and there's seven
29:53
points behind. OK, you know what I would pre
29:56
where NC Marchenko injury. I think I think they could.
30:00
Make the playoffs over New Jersey.
30:01
They are right. If Columbus's injuries, I think
30:03
they don't have a shot anymore, so that's fair.
30:06
OK, let's move on to the wood, the Rangers.
30:11
The Rangers could make. It I think the Rangers could.
30:12
Passengers there are three games behind.
30:15
They would be if they won all three games they have in hand.
30:17
They'd be 6 points behind New Jersey with 30 ish games left in
30:21
the Definitely happened that could happen.
30:24
Something to monitor, sorry. Yeah, the two wild cars look
30:29
like they're gonna come from the Atlantic, though, so it's true.
30:31
It's really the Metropolitan you need to be 12/3.
30:34
Anyway, we'll see. Alright, Kevin, start us off
30:36
with The Wood Brothers. Alright, would you rather?
30:39
I thought this week my goal was to involve players that were
30:43
recently in trades. Or you always have a theme.
30:47
I try. I try as the master.
30:49
Thank you, Josh. I really appreciate that.
30:52
But yeah, I tried to include some traded players.
30:54
So that would be nice for, I think good information for a lot
30:57
of people that are, you know, on these guys are curious about
30:59
them. So my first one is a
31:01
blockbuster. We talked about it earlier in
31:03
the episode. First thing off the list, we
31:05
were naming some players who would rather have JT Miller or
31:09
Brady Kuchuk. That's actually I was going to
31:11
say like we just talked about this and this name didn't come
31:13
up, but it should. Have I wanted to?
31:15
I didn't want to say. I deliberately avoided it.
31:18
Because I didn't really like giving authentic immediate
31:24
response. And my my media response is
31:26
Brady Kuchuk. Really.
31:27
Yeah, I'm making. The playoff weeks.
31:29
Right. Yeah, Well, OK, big thing is the
31:30
playoff schedule. Ottawa has possibly the best
31:32
playoff schedule and Rangers have the worst playoff schedule,
31:35
so that's a big one. But let's take the playoff
31:36
schedule out of it for a second. Miller's gonna get you more
31:38
points, there's no doubt about that.
31:40
But. Like a lot, probably.
31:41
By a lot. Yeah, it's going to be a big
31:43
difference. But if you're playing in a
31:44
league with Pimm's shots and hits like could, Chuck is just
31:48
unreal. He's putting up in the last
31:50
month almost 3 Pimms, 4 shots, three hits.
31:53
This is just insane like that just like that's disgusting.
31:56
It doesn't make any sense like he's a human Wrecking Ball.
31:58
So and I expect his points to go up a lot.
32:00
I think like right now he's a great buy low.
32:02
I think we had mentioned him a few weeks ago as.
32:03
It's hard to buy local is peripheral, but.
32:05
Always so elite at the other stuff.
32:06
That one is even when his points aren't there, everyone's happy
32:08
to have him on their roster. But but yeah, no.
32:11
So I'm going with Chuck over Miller.
32:12
Sam, Sam. I think you can get that trade
32:15
done though. I think.
32:16
That's great for Brady. I think Brady's points have not
32:19
caught up enough that JT's recent trade hype, plus how good
32:23
he's been after the trade. I think if you're playoffs are
32:25
week 22 to 24 and you have Miller, you'd be doing yourself
32:28
a disservice not making this one for one offer.
32:30
Yep, I wouldn't even. I would even add in another
32:32
piece to be honest if. I don't think you have to.
32:35
Though you probably don't have to, but there's probably some
32:37
managers out there that are aware of the playoff schedules,
32:39
right? I don't want for that reason.
32:41
If this gets you over to hum. Yeah, if you're in a league with
32:45
faceoffs especially, then you absolutely don't need to offer
32:48
more, I would say, because JT's so elite at that.
32:52
But anyway, this is a really fun one.
32:54
You're going Brady, too, Kevin. Yeah, pretty.
32:57
Alright. Alright, next one.
33:00
Another recent acquisition by the Colorado Avalanche, Marty
33:04
Natures or Travis Konecny. OK.
33:07
Now I think playoff weeks also play a big factor here because
33:11
Philly also plays two games in the Week 24 championship,
33:15
whereas Colorado plays four games.
33:16
So that's already a pretty big discrepancy.
33:18
But we're seeing nature kind of get accustomed to this Colorado
33:21
top line and power play and the, I mean, the Flyers are the
33:26
Flyers. Obviously at first glance it
33:28
seems like an easy connect me like, but is it easy?
33:33
It should be in theory, but I, I actually think I'm gonna go with
33:36
natures because I really like him rest of season.
33:38
The playoff schedule does make a difference.
33:40
And I, I mean, I think point wise between now and the rest of
33:45
the season, regardless of the playoff schedule, nature is
33:48
going to outpace connect me. So over the last two weeks as a
33:51
recording, connection has been pretty not good and Nature is
33:56
just finding his groove on Colorado.
33:58
So I don't think it's crazy rest of the season for Nature to get
34:00
more, you know, points overall, more power play, points, more
34:03
shots and connecting is not really a hitter anymore, so.
34:07
Yeah, I actually agree completely what Jackie said like
34:10
you would think looking at this, you know, looking at this and
34:13
start a season is a no brainer connect me like I wouldn't even
34:15
like, you know, consider them the same tier.
34:17
But right now I think I really like the trade for niches as
34:20
well getting to play with McKinnon and I think that it's
34:23
only going to get better with intrusion coming back.
34:25
We had spoken about this earlier, Kevin, but, and I don't
34:27
know if you don't necessarily feel the same way as me as I do,
34:30
but I think the. Feel the same about strongly.
34:31
OK, but I think the cooking coming back is a major, major
34:35
bonus for the Abs and it's gonna just make the entire, you know,
34:38
top six and 1st power play like a lot better.
34:40
I've seen a lot of analytics about it and just the ABS with
34:44
nutrition in the lineup versus the Abs without him in the
34:46
lineup is night and day. So if nature is already doing
34:49
well, then I think the gonna get worse.
34:52
Exactly. I think it's going to get
34:53
better. And I think he's definitely get
34:55
more points than connecting the rest of the season.
34:57
I think that's why you traded. You can maybe do if you know
35:01
you're looking at, I mean, if you just open up their ranks and
35:04
if you're looking at season ranks, Total Connect is going to
35:06
be super high rated in your league most likely.
35:08
He has been a little bit of a dry slump these last few weeks,
35:12
but I mean, that's just a good opportunity to maybe get rid of
35:14
him. But yeah, I think I think nature
35:17
is for me as well. But Connect is not one of those
35:19
guys. I feel like he has like a good
35:22
reputation for fantasy, but still underrated.
35:24
Does that make sense? I agree.
35:25
Like people just kind of forget about.
35:26
Him I fully agree, but I think it's tough.
35:29
Just being on the Flyers doesn't do you any favors for how people
35:32
rate you. It does not, but he's like by
35:35
far their best fantasy assets. So all right, we're all aligned
35:39
once again. Yep.
35:40
Alright, next one, Mikael Granlund's newly acquired Dallas
35:44
star or Alex Tuck, my nemesis. Ah, hmm, I don't know.
35:51
This is tough too. These are good.
35:54
There's a good. One, because Tuck obviously is
35:56
benefiting right now from being on P1 with Tage Thompson out,
35:59
but with the Dylan Cousins trade on the horizon and the People
36:03
one obviously has guys that shouldn't be there also.
36:05
So you kind of wouldn't be surprised if Tuck ends up there,
36:08
especially with how he's having success right now.
36:11
I think that I might lean towards Grantland on this one,
36:15
actually. The one thing that I love about
36:18
Tuck is that he blocks like almost like a.
36:20
Defence, he's one of the best forwarding, blocking.
36:22
Exactly, so that I think is a really rare archetype.
36:25
I also think that usually he's good for him.
36:26
He hasn't been doing it that much lately so but the Pimms and
36:29
blocks combo is really nice. I do think that when Thompson
36:33
comes back, I don't really see him cracking power play 1.
36:36
And I think like Buffalo isn't a deep enough team to be happy
36:40
about being on power play 2 or not on the top line.
36:43
Whereas with Grand spoken about this earlier, you know, even
36:45
though he's lying too powerfully to unless they split the time
36:48
pretty evenly. And his linemates I think are
36:50
gonna be a lot better than Tux. So I think I'm going with the
36:53
Grand. Are think I'm gonna do talk
36:56
actually because of the blocks and stuff in a categories like
36:59
it's really cool. This is so close though.
37:01
I just don't really trust grandland shots so as like kind
37:05
of a base value. I don't love it and I mean he is
37:07
new to this team and like we were saying, if you're.
37:10
Also going to PT2, it's not like he's getting.
37:13
One. And he's like not gonna get that
37:15
eternity like JT Miller's getting.
37:16
He's going to be in the mid 6. What it is in Power Play 2?
37:19
So Dallas is mid 6 is not a terrible place to be.
37:21
No for sure. Anyway, I can't fault you for
37:23
saying Island, but. I think there's less chance that
37:25
Grandma gets P1 than Talk gets P1 because he has to beat out
37:31
like Jack. Quinn I just I don't think
37:33
either of them getting P1. I think and I think that I
37:36
wouldn't be able to talk out. There, I don't think he will.
37:39
It's not crazy to think and I do think he's more likely than
37:41
grand, but I don't see either. I'm getting it, and I think
37:43
powerfully too. On Dallas is like way better
37:45
than perfect on Buffalo. Absolutely, it's true.
37:46
It's such a good power play, actually.
37:48
Yeah, category. Coverage, though, he's getting
37:51
you a lot of shots and. Blogs really like the category
37:54
coverage from a tuck. Point per game without any power
37:56
play points over the last. Two weeks.
37:58
That's crazy. I mean, he did.
37:59
Is that like 1-3 point game against you?
38:01
And that's because Thompson was out and so crying inside.
38:03
Yeah, who are you picking, Kevin?
38:05
I'm going. Alex stuck.
38:06
OK, alright. Josh were outnumbered.
38:11
All right, goalie time. This is my boy, the best goalie
38:15
in the league. Ilya Sorokin or Stuart Skinner.
38:20
I'm gonna go Sorokin. I just think Skinner kind of
38:23
sucks. Like quite astute observation.
38:28
He's just not very good, obviously.
38:30
Like the comparison here is like bad goalie good team versus good
38:33
goalie bad. Team and Sorokin has been the
38:35
best goalie for like the last three weeks in fantasy.
38:40
But I mean, I don't expect them to win every game like they've
38:43
been doing right, like they have been beating some good teams.
38:46
But I mean the honors are are still the Islanders.
38:49
I think no doubt I'd bet on Stuart Skinner getting more wins
38:52
the rest of the season, but due to percentages make up for it.
38:55
Like, we know broken is a beast, right?
38:57
We know that he's one of the best goalies.
38:58
He's just on a team that doesn't score many goals.
39:02
So yeah, where where do you draw the line?
39:03
That's kind of the question. Yeah, like I think that
39:06
Sorokin's floor is a lot safer because he's just so much
39:08
better. Like that's what it is.
39:09
I mean, at the very least. You're we know he has no chance
39:11
of losing his job either, right? Where we have seen that where, I
39:14
mean, I'd be surprised as stewards Kenner lost the job.
39:16
But like, it's definitely in the realm of possibilities.
39:19
They have to bring in someone new.
39:20
He's not losing it to Calvin Pickard or Picard or whatever,
39:23
but like. He's gonna lose it to anybody if
39:26
he plays really bad, like if he plays like he was last year,
39:28
yeah, Yeah. But we haven't seen, like, that
39:31
level of play this year. So yeah.
39:32
I feel confident things are working on this one.
39:34
Yeah, I would say stroking too. I mean, I think we have to, you
39:38
know, keep out the recency bias. But at the end of the day, even
39:41
if you go on full, if you look at the full season, Skinner's
39:44
just not that great. You know, I think you could have
39:46
done like you could have done a higher tier of goalie versus
39:49
broken and made it like more of a, you know, a difficult
39:52
conversation. Yeah, cause we've been talking
39:54
about how bad the owners have been.
39:55
I still don't believe in the Islanders.
39:56
I just think that despite I think Skinner.
39:59
'S gonna get more. I know, but I think Skinner gets
40:02
more wins than Sorokin rest of season.
40:03
I don't think that's a that's too hot of a take, but I think
40:06
smokin' rate stats and he gets more saves and he'll probably
40:08
get more starts. So I think, I think Sorokin for
40:11
those reasons. Yeah, you also have to take into
40:14
account what your team archetype is like.
40:16
On my team I have Sorokin and Kemper and they both fit really
40:19
good together because they're on good defensive teams.
40:22
So they're saves, goals against average and percentage is really
40:26
high. So they pair well together even
40:27
if I'm not getting the win. So you have to take that into
40:30
account. Alright, last one.
40:32
Obviously gonna take Sorokin over like any.
40:35
Yeah. No, I think the guys that I take
40:37
for sure over Sorokin is like, you know, Hellebuyck, obviously,
40:40
Vasilevski, Ottinger, Igor, probably.
40:43
Yeah, those are the four. Really.
40:46
Yeah. Yeah, I get that.
40:47
I think the Rangers are gonna win a lot the rest of the
40:49
season. Yeah, alright, one last one.
40:53
Defensive picks time. Sorry, I stumbled on my thoughts
40:58
there. But he lagged again.
41:00
Josh's boy, Evan Bouchard, or the category God most cider.
41:06
OK, so in a points league, I'm gonna go with pop.
41:11
Out answer. But I think it's it's actually
41:15
nice because it's a no brainer. But but cider has been good.
41:19
No, it's no brainer for points, I'm sorry.
41:23
For categories I would go cider. I think, I think even in points
41:26
leagues is still a conversation that's.
41:27
Why? I just like nine shots the other
41:30
day from Bouchard, Like that's crazy.
41:31
And those shots are getting valued in points leagues.
41:34
Over the last month, Bush has a .86 points siders at .6 siders
41:39
getting more power play points, which is not only for sure for.
41:43
Sure. And averaging 4.
41:44
Three shots over the past he's getting, yeah.
41:46
Averaging two more shots a game. I don't think Bush averages over
41:50
four shots for us this season. Having like a 3.5.
41:53
Like over 3 for sure, but Snyder will stay where he's at.
41:56
Like 2.22 point, 3:00-ish, but three hits, two blocks.
42:00
Like that's the best category defenseman in the.
42:03
League, yeah, for sure. No, I like for for a standard
42:06
categories league or deeper 1, whatever it is like I'm going
42:10
slider. I have to take Cider here, I
42:11
think just because the categories are two elite and
42:15
it's not like he's getting zeros in power plays or points as
42:18
well. I think that the the baseline
42:20
that he has there is still super high that the difference there
42:23
in the point doesn't make up for how elite he's getting your hits
42:26
and blocks every week. I think that the difference in
42:30
points is gonna be bigger than what you're seeing.
42:33
Right, Give me a .3 and I think that's going to be what it is.
42:36
It's like a .3 right now. I think it's gonna be bigger
42:38
than that. So .25 right now.
42:40
Yeah, so I think it's gonna be more than .3.
42:42
I mean, you love to say this. Look, his point average includes
42:45
power play points. Average.
42:46
I know it's super. High it's almost all power play
42:48
points and that's not sustainable.
42:50
So I think that the points difference is gonna be bigger
42:52
than you guys are giving credit for and the shots difference is
42:56
gonna be. I think about two shots
42:57
difference. I think this is or maybe like
42:58
1.5. But Cider is a monster for
43:01
categories. I don't think this three and two
43:03
is abnormal for him. I think that's completely like
43:05
in line for how he is. And I think this year is a huge
43:08
stepping stone for Sider because in the past they keep bringing
43:10
in random guys to play power play one over him.
43:12
Even this year they brought in Gustafson and people were like,
43:14
why are you doing? They have a perfectly good, you
43:16
know, franchise player right here waiting to take power play
43:18
one. Yeah.
43:19
And finally they changed coaches and he realized why don't we put
43:22
our best defence on power play 1.
43:23
And so I think it's a huge, huge boon for Cider.
43:26
I think he's gonna be one of the top banger cat guys for for
43:29
years to come. It really depends if it if
43:32
ciders, if it wasn't for the shot difference, I'd say Cider.
43:35
No, no brainer because I take those hits and blocks over the
43:38
difference in points in power play points that I think are
43:40
going to be the shots makes it a bit more difficult because now
43:43
you're looking at, you know, points, PowerPoints, shots.
43:45
That's like 3 different categories versus hits and
43:47
blocks which is 2 categories. So I think I might lean
43:51
Bouchard. Also he has one more game in the
43:53
finals versus Cider so that's like something to note.
43:55
But I can't blame anyone for taking Cider.
43:57
He's ciders are more unique archetype for sure.
43:59
Does have one more game in the finals.
44:00
Yeah, blue shirts are 333 and I think siders. 332
44:04
all-encompassing three-week final.
44:05
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go cider, but I
44:09
yeah, that's tough. These are these are good, Kevin.
44:12
I almost like I could tell. Yeah, no, no, because really,
44:15
like I've been looking at how she's been doing and it's
44:18
incredible to see. So yeah, who are you picking
44:20
Slider? Alright, Wow, Kevin and I were
44:24
all on the same one for all of. These and that just to show that
44:27
these are usually tough. I think usually Josh and I are
44:29
pretty aligned. Yeah.
44:30
No, I've they're Scott Wedgewood in there.
44:33
Maybe be a different story. Yeah.
44:37
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