Latest / 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary / Federal Agents Search Ilhan Omar’s Home in Criminal Investigation
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Karambas of Radio America
- 0:08Speaker 2: and Jim Garrity of National Review. Three Martini's coming up.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Welcome back to another Three Martini Lunch. I am Craig Colonese.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I am going by my real last name now. I
- 0:20Speaker 2: used to go by a fake last name and I
- 0:22Speaker 2: was paired with an investigative reporter in Houston, Texas as
- 0:26Speaker 2: my co-host. And he has demanded that I use my
- 0:28Speaker 2: real last name. Ah, screw it. It's happened. So I
- 0:31Speaker 2: am Craig Colonnades. He is Jim Garrity. I don't think
- 0:34Speaker 2: any of his names have changed. I am filling in
- 0:36Speaker 2: for Greg Carombas. Craig, it is great to have you.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Is Colonnades like Dijonais or something? Is it some sort
- 0:43Speaker 2: of mayonnaise? Okay, all right. Yeah, it's one of those. Yeah,
- 0:46Speaker 2: it's like a Dijon. That's actually what they said to
- 0:47Speaker 2: me all the time in school is, how do you
- 0:49Speaker 2: say it? Like mayonnaise? Okay, I got it. No more Collins,
- 0:53Speaker 2: which I very much miss. We have quite a bit
- 0:54Speaker 2: to talk about today. A lot of things going on
- 0:57Speaker 2: in the world. Ilhan Omar in the news. Maybe we
- 1:01Speaker 2: should start there.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Sure. I was going to say, no matter how bad
- 1:04Speaker 1: your morning is going, it's a Monday. A lot of
- 1:06Speaker 1: people are feeling it rough. You're having a better day
- 1:09Speaker 1: than Ilhan Omar is because federal agents searched her home
- 1:13Speaker 1: on Monday as part of a criminal investigation. According to
- 1:16Speaker 1: people familiar with the matter, speaking to the Associated Press,
- 1:19Speaker 1: the search was conducted by Homeland Security Investigations agents who
- 1:23Speaker 1: are not allowed to discuss this and spoke on a
- 1:25Speaker 1: condition of anonymity. Omar has not replied, at least as
- 1:29Speaker 1: of this recording, has not issued a statement or something.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Justice Department said in a statement Monday that HSI agents
- 1:34Speaker 1: executed a judicially authorized search warrant secured by the department
- 1:38Speaker 1: in the Washington, D.C. area, but provided no other details. Craig,
- 1:42Speaker 1: I saw this news and I'm sure she just said, oh, brother.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Oh, how well done there. How well done there.
- 1:50Speaker 1: You know what?
- 1:51Speaker 2: I wonder if nothing comes of this. This is kind
- 1:53Speaker 2: of my first thought. But the fact that it occurred,
- 1:56Speaker 2: does that satiate the demand on the right for these
- 2:00Speaker 2: types of actions? Like we want to hold people accountable.
- 2:03Speaker 2: So do we get paid for the attempt?
- 2:06Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say the short answer is
- 2:07Speaker 1: they won't be satiated until she's deported or drawn and quartered.
- 2:11Speaker 1: By the way, no one should issue any threats against
- 2:14Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar. Yeah. But look, she is one of the
- 2:17Speaker 1: villains on the right. She's said and done enough things
- 2:21Speaker 1: to earn that status. Not a great deal of detail
- 2:23Speaker 1: about what this is involved with. I know that earlier
- 2:26Speaker 1: this year, J.D. Vance had told reporters, it seems like
- 2:30Speaker 1: there is something fishy in there, but everyone's entitled to
- 2:32Speaker 1: equal justice under the laws. This was the idea that
- 2:34Speaker 1: she had married her brother, committed immigration fraud. Certainly, you know, look,
- 2:40Speaker 1: the FBI, you know, knocking on your door and executing
- 2:44Speaker 1: a search warrant is not a conviction in a court.
- 2:46Speaker 1: It's not proof that a crime is committed. Everyone is
- 2:48Speaker 1: entitled to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. But
- 2:53Speaker 1: it does indicate at minimum you have convinced a judge
- 2:56Speaker 1: and if she gets indicted, like this would suggest that
- 2:59Speaker 1: they're getting ready to present stuff to a grand jury.
- 3:02Speaker 1: We'll see what the grand jury says. You know, the
- 3:04Speaker 1: Trump administration has had times where they have thought they
- 3:06Speaker 1: had a very strong case and the grand jury has
- 3:08Speaker 1: not bought it. So maybe the grand jury will see
- 3:12Speaker 1: some sort of partisan political motivation here. But my guess
- 3:15Speaker 1: is if you're walking into a grand jury, you're probably
- 3:17Speaker 1: gonna have something. And for this search warrant, you must
- 3:20Speaker 1: have done, either it's a very friendly judge or you've
- 3:22Speaker 1: convinced them that something is there that is worth looking for.
- 3:26Speaker 2: You know, I also wonder this, Jim, and I mean
- 3:28Speaker 2: this as candidly as possible. I think that the right
- 3:31Speaker 2: wants to see an attempt to throw people in jail,
- 3:33Speaker 2: but the left does valuably use this the same way, say,
- 3:36Speaker 2: that Trump did when they tried to throw him in jail.
- 3:39Speaker 2: So if Ilhan Omar winds up guilty of nothing, Is
- 3:44Speaker 2: this something that also mobilizes the left even more? Yeah.
- 3:47Speaker 1: In every reference, it will be Ilhan Omar, who had
- 3:50Speaker 1: her home searched by Homeland Security agents, blah, blah, blah.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Like that just becomes part of her title there in
- 3:55Speaker 1: all references, creating a further cloud of suspicion. I remember
- 3:58Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar represents one of the most Democratic-leaning districts in
- 4:01Speaker 1: the entire country. So it's not like she's going to
- 4:03Speaker 1: lose re-election. Maybe some other Democrat might try to say,
- 4:08Speaker 1: you know, they've got a problem here. But yeah, that's
- 4:11Speaker 1: going to be close to two years away if that
- 4:13Speaker 1: ever happens. Yeah. All right.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. It'll be interesting to say the least.
- 4:17Speaker 2: I do kind of think she married her brother, but
- 4:19Speaker 2: I know that's not the investigation part yet. So I
- 4:22Speaker 2: kind of think that we'll see if that winds up
- 4:23Speaker 2: being something they prove.
- 4:24Speaker 1: It's not like Troy Jackson is going to lead the
- 4:26Speaker 1: charge against her on this.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Could we just do this like Jerry Springer style?
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- 5:33Speaker 2: Now we move on to our second martini. This is
- 5:36Speaker 2: easily the bad martini, and I do agree with some
- 5:38Speaker 2: of what Jim sent us a little bit earlier about this.
- 5:41Speaker 2: I don't know what good this does, was your own words. Russia, Ukraine,
- 5:47Speaker 2: ceasefire that's not actually happening. President Trump announcing this. This
- 5:51Speaker 2: is on the heels of a big discussion about a
- 5:54Speaker 2: diesel fuel deal with Russia, too. So I don't know
- 5:57Speaker 2: how those two combined in your mind, but.
- 6:01Speaker 1: If they do at all. They very much do connect, Greg.
- 6:05Speaker 1: And so I will try to keep this rant short.
- 6:08Speaker 2: No, but go ahead.
- 6:09Speaker 1: So first of all, Russia has never been a major
- 6:12Speaker 1: exporter of diesel fuel to the United States. The Ukrainian
- 6:16Speaker 1: strikes on Russia's energy infrastructure. Russia's supply of diesel fuel
- 6:21Speaker 1: is about 1% of the world's supply. The amount coming
- 6:24Speaker 1: out of the Persian Gulf, which was disrupted by the
- 6:27Speaker 1: war against Iran for several months, it sounds like more
- 6:29Speaker 1: oil is getting out of the Persian Gulf, which is
- 6:31Speaker 1: good news. But that was close to like 17% of
- 6:34Speaker 1: the world's supply. So when you're talking about why are
- 6:37Speaker 1: diesel prices so high, Persian Gulf is a very big reason.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Ukraine strikes and Russia are fairly small. But Trump announces
- 6:43Speaker 1: that the U.S. is going to start importing Russian diesel oil. Now,
- 6:46Speaker 1: first of all, Russian, you know, there's a couple problems here.
- 6:49Speaker 1: One is, again, they've never exported that much. Two, Ukraine
- 6:53Speaker 1: is continuing to bomb their energy infrastructure. Three, that oil
- 6:57Speaker 1: is still under sanctions with European unions and other countries. Four,
- 7:01Speaker 1: The whole point of the Lindsey Graham Act was to
- 7:02Speaker 1: give Trump more authority to enact tariffs on countries that
- 7:06Speaker 1: are importing Russian energy supplies, which we are now doing.
- 7:11Speaker 1: So I guess we're not going to sanction other countries
- 7:14Speaker 1: for doing the exact same thing that we're doing. By
- 7:17Speaker 1: the way, just a little footnote to this. Since the
- 7:19Speaker 1: beginning of the war, the U.S. has been importing small
- 7:24Speaker 1: amounts of enriched, I believe, uranium for our nuclear power plants.
- 7:27Speaker 1: The reason we've been doing that is because the contracts
- 7:30Speaker 1: were negotiated before the war began. And my understanding is
- 7:35Speaker 1: that the U.S. power plants would have to pay either way,
- 7:38Speaker 1: even if they refused delivery of this enriched uranium. So
- 7:43Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we're actually a little
- 7:45Speaker 1: bit hypocritical from the beginning of the war. But hey,
- 7:49Speaker 1: good uranium is hard to find these days. And so
- 7:52Speaker 1: this is all a prearranged contract. We can't get out
- 7:54Speaker 1: of it. We should have thought about that before we have.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Sure about how we worded those contracts. What's Russia going
- 7:58Speaker 1: to do? Invade Ukraine? Yes, apparently they did exactly that.
- 8:02Speaker 1: But anyway, so Trump announces this. This is not really
- 8:05Speaker 1: going to help very much with your gas prices. It's
- 8:07Speaker 1: not going to help truckers with their diesel prices. Not
- 8:10Speaker 1: really going to help farmers who use diesel for their
- 8:12Speaker 1: farm equipment. School buses, right? And a lot of people
- 8:15Speaker 1: run on diesel fuel.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Does it help anybody?
- 8:18Speaker 1: Not really. I think the idea is that, well, Trump
- 8:21Speaker 1: can say to the country as we approach the midterms, look,
- 8:24Speaker 1: I'm doing something. See, we're bringing in Russia because he
- 8:27Speaker 1: kept talking about Venezuela. Venezuela does have considerable oil reserves.
- 8:32Speaker 1: They're not readily and easily accessible, at least not in
- 8:34Speaker 1: larger amounts than they're getting right now. Building up the
- 8:36Speaker 1: infrastructure is going to take years and years and a
- 8:39Speaker 1: considerable amount of investment from U.S. companies. Strangely enough, U.S.
- 8:43Speaker 1: companies not eager to invest in Venezuela because of the
- 8:46Speaker 1: last time their stuff got nationalized. You know, fool me once.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Shame on you. Yeah. Fooled me twice. Shame on me.
- 8:52Speaker 1: So anyway, so Trump announces out of the blue on
- 8:55Speaker 1: True Social that both sides have agreed to an energy ceasefire.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Ukraine is like, well, we didn't really agree to this,
- 9:00Speaker 1: but we're open to it. If you guys stop hitting
- 9:03Speaker 1: our stuff, we'll stop hitting your stuff. Russia doesn't say anything.
- 9:07Speaker 1: And now apparently the thermal power plant CHP-5 was struck
- 9:11Speaker 1: at least twice, causing a fire. This is a PowerPoint
- 9:14Speaker 1: in Ukraine. It's like, why does the president think he
- 9:18Speaker 1: gets something by announcing ceasefires that are not real that
- 9:22Speaker 1: neither side has actually agreed to.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I honestly, I can't
- 9:26Speaker 2: follow the playbook on a lot of this at all
- 9:29Speaker 2: to be candid with you. And it sounds like you
- 9:31Speaker 2: can't either, because as you just pointed out, the biggest
- 9:33Speaker 2: thing is I don't know where the win is to, um,
- 9:37Speaker 2: make sense of all the losses that you take along
- 9:40Speaker 2: with this win. I just, I just don't see it.
- 9:43Speaker 2: And maybe there's another play. Maybe there's something else around
- 9:46Speaker 2: the corner. Um, I don't know. And here, I'll say
- 9:50Speaker 2: something else, Jim. And I mean this sort of generically
- 9:52Speaker 2: or like macro. Since Trump has been in office, I've
- 9:55Speaker 2: seen people conservatively start to turn on him in a
- 9:58Speaker 2: way that I think is just... sort of generic, intentional,
- 10:02Speaker 2: like reading the tea leaves, not genuine. This is a genuine,
- 10:07Speaker 2: to me, criticism of like, what the hell are we doing?
- 10:09Speaker 2: A version of a thing. Not because, because I know
- 10:12Speaker 2: a lot of conservatives who would say just simply, oh,
- 10:14Speaker 2: we need more diesel fuel. This is great. We made
- 10:16Speaker 2: a deal for diesel fuel. but they don't actually understand
- 10:19Speaker 2: the logistics of how this didn't solve that problem. You
- 10:22Speaker 2: know what I mean?
- 10:23Speaker 1: Craig, I'll be honest, you know, this oil has to
- 10:26Speaker 1: get the United States. It's still sanctioned by the Europeans.
- 10:29Speaker 1: I guess the idea is that they think the Europeans
- 10:30Speaker 1: are just going to let the oil tankers go by
- 10:33Speaker 1: without enforcing their own sanctions. I don't know if they
- 10:35Speaker 1: want to like ship it westward all the way across Siberia.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Eastward all across Siberia, then to Alaska. Alaska's got oil,
- 10:42Speaker 1: but fine. You know, this isn't going to have a
- 10:44Speaker 1: huge impact on prices. It's definitely not going to have
- 10:45Speaker 1: a huge impact on prices between now and Election Day.
- 10:48Speaker 1: It really just kind of feels like a flailing move.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And again, also very much doing our part to help
- 10:55Speaker 1: out Russia at a time when they continue to bomb hospitals, schools.
- 11:00Speaker 1: children's playgrounds.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Here's the thing I would say, Jim, about this is
- 11:04Speaker 2: if he had announced a diesel energy deal with just
- 11:08Speaker 2: a random other country, like just somebody that's- Uganda, right?
- 11:11Speaker 2: We're getting almost nothing from them, but at least we're
- 11:13Speaker 2: saying it out loud. At least I would understand the
- 11:15Speaker 2: attempt to trick people. This comes with so much damage
- 11:19Speaker 2: along with the attempted trick that I just don't, how
- 11:23Speaker 2: does this, okay, I want to slow myself down so
- 11:27Speaker 2: I say it correctly because I don't know how to
- 11:28Speaker 2: say it better and I feel like you're going to
- 11:29Speaker 2: know the answer and I won't. How does this happen? Like,
- 11:32Speaker 2: how do people recommend this to him? How do we
- 11:34Speaker 2: go this road and do this? What is your assessment
- 11:38Speaker 2: of how we got here?
- 11:39Speaker 1: Sure. Going back to Trump's first impeachment, which involved the
- 11:43Speaker 1: golden phone call, the perfect phone call, whatever it was, Zelensky.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Trump has never been particularly pro-Ukraine. He has always been
- 11:51Speaker 1: weirdly touchy-feely, warm and fuzzy towards Vladimir Putin. Sure. And
- 11:56Speaker 1: he went into this insisting that this was going to be,
- 11:59Speaker 1: he could end the war within a day. Didn't work
- 12:02Speaker 1: out that way. Apparently, Trump did start asking his advisors,
- 12:05Speaker 1: is Putin a different guy than the first term? Well,
- 12:08Speaker 1: by the way, Putin spent about a year in isolation.
- 12:10Speaker 1: So there are some people who think that Putin, like
- 12:12Speaker 1: Putin has always been an SOB, to use about the
- 12:14Speaker 1: toughest language I can use on this podcast. I could
- 12:17Speaker 1: use tougher. But he basically, you know, people have wondered
- 12:21Speaker 1: if he's as rational as he used to be or
- 12:23Speaker 1: whether he feels a ticking clock of age. and the
- 12:26Speaker 1: war is a big part of his legacy, and he'll
- 12:28Speaker 1: be remembered as Vlad the Conqueror or something like that.
- 12:33Speaker 1: So it is like, there's a certain sense that Trump
- 12:35Speaker 1: has always been looking for this rationality in Putin that
- 12:40Speaker 1: I don't think is, I don't know if it was
- 12:41Speaker 1: ever there, but it certainly does not appear to be
- 12:43Speaker 1: there anymore. And so this is the latest move in that,
- 12:46Speaker 1: because we've also invited Putin to Alaska, we've invited Russian,
- 12:50Speaker 1: we're bringing him down to Miami, you know, it, If
- 12:53Speaker 1: we're just nicer to Putin, he's going to see reason,
- 12:56Speaker 1: and yet there's no evidence that suggests that's the case.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Yeah, no, none whatsoever. Okay, I get that. I get
- 13:01Speaker 2: that this is really just a deal that Putin wanted,
- 13:03Speaker 2: that Trump said yes to, that has helped nobody else.
- 13:06Speaker 2: As critical as that sounds.
- 13:07Speaker 1: All right.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And now we go on to your last martini of
- 13:12Speaker 2: the three-martini lunch with host Jim Garrity and me, Craig Colonese,
- 13:16Speaker 2: filling in. Still weird to say my real last name.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Kimberly Guilfoyle is in the news. She had a sweet
- 13:21Speaker 2: gig as a U.S. ambassador yesterday And it appears that
- 13:24Speaker 2: they have gifted her an exit. Is that correct? What's
- 13:28Speaker 2: going on here?
- 13:29Speaker 1: Well, someone who does not like Kimberly Guilfoyle, who is
- 13:32Speaker 1: currently our U.S. ambassador to Greece. She's the former fiance
- 13:35Speaker 1: of Donald Trump Jr. Also the ex-wife of California Governor
- 13:39Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. So you could say she's thoroughly bipartisan in
- 13:44Speaker 1: that sense. But so she was appointed U.S. ambassador to Greece.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Someone who has remarkable access to everything she's doing who
- 13:52Speaker 1: does not like her has been leaking to the Wall
- 13:55Speaker 1: Street Journal over the last two weeks and every couple
- 13:58Speaker 1: of days at some other new revelation. The first was
- 14:01Speaker 1: that she had this lobbyist for a Greek construction company,
- 14:07Speaker 1: and she's been meeting with other countries trying to encourage
- 14:12Speaker 1: other countries to hire this Greek construction company. Now, Mr. Colonese,
- 14:19Speaker 1: I've heard of the phrase America first.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Yes.
- 14:21Speaker 1: And I think America first really should prioritize America, not
- 14:26Speaker 1: this Greek construction conglomerate or something like that. And she
- 14:29Speaker 1: goes into meetings with them. People thought she was her
- 14:32Speaker 1: chief of staff. There's just something weird about this. Then
- 14:34Speaker 1: the second story was about her asking this wealthy businessman
- 14:38Speaker 1: to pay her American Express card bill of $ 100, 000 before
- 14:40Speaker 1: her confirmation hearings. The Wall Street Journal had the text messages,
- 14:46Speaker 1: and it is basically promising favors, and it just is
- 14:49Speaker 1: every bit as unsavory as you'd think. The news this morning,
- 14:53Speaker 1: again from the Associated Press, President Trump, Secretary of State Rubio,
- 14:58Speaker 1: are considering firing U.S. Ambassador to Greece Kimberly Guilfoyle after
- 15:01Speaker 1: a series of reports alleging she has engaged in improper
- 15:04Speaker 1: and possibly illegal conduct before and during her tenure in Athens.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Senior U.S. officials said Sunday that Trump and Rubio are, quote,
- 15:10Speaker 1: extremely pissed off, unquote. by her reported conduct and will
- 15:14Speaker 1: likely decide on what action to take this week after
- 15:16Speaker 1: the Columbus Day holiday.
- 15:17Speaker 2: I'm glad they got the extremely in there in the quote,
- 15:20Speaker 2: by the way.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Extremely, yes. Not just a little pissed off. Very pissed off.
- 15:24Speaker 1: And it's, look, this administration is not squeaky clean, but
- 15:29Speaker 1: there is a kind of a breaking point. There is
- 15:31Speaker 1: this level where it just becomes absolutely insurmountable. Um, I,
- 15:35Speaker 1: you know, wrote extensively about this on Friday. Uh, some
- 15:38Speaker 1: people said, yes, this is terrible. A couple of readers like, Jim,
- 15:40Speaker 1: why are you making such a big deal out of this? Well,
- 15:42Speaker 1: apparently it's a big deal to Trump and Rubio as well. And,
- 15:46Speaker 1: you know, you can find other people to be ambassador
- 15:50Speaker 1: who will not, by the way, being an ambassador is
- 15:52Speaker 1: a really sweet gig, right? Public housing, make a decent living. Yeah.
- 15:58Speaker 1: you know, you got a security detail. Like most people
- 16:01Speaker 1: really like being ambassadors. There's a reason. The idea that
- 16:05Speaker 1: she's like, well, actually, I also want to make some
- 16:06Speaker 1: extra money on the side.
- 16:07Speaker 2: No, no.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Honest to goodness, I kind of feel
- 16:11Speaker 1: like this is, even by the standards of this administration,
- 16:15Speaker 1: this is embarrassing. And it's really hard to argue this
- 16:18Speaker 1: administration is America first when it's Greek construction conglomerate first,
- 16:23Speaker 1: America second.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess I continue to now think about the,
- 16:27Speaker 2: like the catalyst to all these things. Cause I'm thinking
- 16:29Speaker 2: to myself, what do you, what do you think makes
- 16:30Speaker 2: someone that has a sweet gig like this for a
- 16:34Speaker 2: Guilfoyle need to take that extra shot? Cause you would
- 16:37Speaker 2: think the risk isn't worth the reward here to most.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Of us humans. Craig, have you seen the picture of
- 16:43Speaker 1: her posing on the rug with Gavin Newsom?
- 16:46Speaker 2: Yes.
- 16:47Speaker 1: It's like a profile in a magazine out there in California. It, um,
- 16:52Speaker 1: It's like an episode of 80s Dynasty. It's just the most...
- 16:58Speaker 1: Was it Susan Collins? No, it wasn't Susan Collins. Whoever
- 17:00Speaker 1: that actor... It was just absolute... Dallas, J.R. Ewing. It
- 17:03Speaker 1: was the most ostentatious... Liberace would say, that's a bit much.
- 17:08Speaker 1: And that's the... So I think... She has a taste
- 17:12Speaker 1: for the finer things in life.
- 17:13Speaker 2: She does.
- 17:14Speaker 1: She does. And anyway, she can get them. This is, yeah.
- 17:17Speaker 2: I can't believe you just reminded me of that photo.
- 17:20Speaker 2: I am now looking at that photo once again, because
- 17:22Speaker 2: it is, we should just flash it up. And then
- 17:24Speaker 2: that's the answer to the question. Well, thank you, Jim,
- 17:27Speaker 2: as always, for chatting about all of this stuff. I
- 17:29Speaker 2: think we might have a palate cleanser or one last one.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Do we? We do. So I had on paper a
- 17:34Speaker 1: very good weekend, Mr. Colonese, because my Jets won, beating
- 17:38Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns 17 to 12. Sure. It was the
- 17:41Speaker 1: rare game that I did not watch. I usually watch
- 17:43Speaker 1: every game with at least one of my sons at
- 17:47Speaker 1: a restaurant. We were at a family gathering. So we're
- 17:49Speaker 1: just surreptitiously checking our phones the entire time. And the
- 17:52Speaker 1: Jets won. It's probably good that I didn't watch. I
- 17:55Speaker 1: would have had a heart attack.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Watching it, but Giants, kind of a mixed day, huh?
- 18:01Speaker 2: No, the Giants did tie, which I think is no
- 18:03Speaker 2: fun and shouldn't happen. This is America. We should not
- 18:06Speaker 2: allow these things to happen. But they were down 14
- 18:08Speaker 2: points in the fourth quarter, and I think the Commanders
- 18:10Speaker 2: more screwed up than the Giants actually did a lot
- 18:12Speaker 2: to achieve a tie. So in those scenarios, like if
- 18:16Speaker 2: I was watching my kid play a sport, and he's terrible,
- 18:19Speaker 2: but for a couple minutes he's pretty good... I'm going
- 18:22Speaker 2: to focus on those couple minutes and ignore the whole
- 18:24Speaker 2: rest of it. That seems to be what happened here
- 18:26Speaker 2: for the Giants. And again, mostly a giveaway more so
- 18:29Speaker 2: than something earned.
- 18:31Speaker 1: A good, healthy attitude, I think, Craig. And I should
- 18:33Speaker 1: observe that, like, you know, I'm old enough to remember
- 18:36Speaker 1: when NFL overtime used to be 15 minutes. Right. Now
- 18:39Speaker 1: it's just 10 minutes. And I understand, you know, they're
- 18:41Speaker 1: worried about long games and fatigue and injuries and stuff
- 18:43Speaker 1: like that.
- 18:44Speaker 2: No, no.
- 18:45Speaker 1: I think you could add another five minutes. 15 minutes
- 18:47Speaker 1: over time isn't that much.
- 18:48Speaker 2: This is America. We should not tie.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:50Speaker 2: You should never tie.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Okay, good. I'm glad we agree on that.
- 18:53Speaker 2: This is not soccer, darn it.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
- 18:56Speaker 2: We'll talk again next time on the Three Martini Lunch
- 18:58Speaker 2: with Jim Garrity. And I think I'm in all week
- 19:01Speaker 2: for Greg Krohn.
- 19:01Speaker 1: You are. And we're glad to have you. Fantastic.