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The State Of The Bears Before The 2026 NFL Draft And How It May Affect Their Picks · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Winni City podcast, presented by fans cited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that man right there, that is of course Alex Shapiro, I am kind of Davis, but more importantly, the third person joining us, friend of our old show, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you've ever watched anything when it comes to NBC Sports Chicago, or read his articles on NBC's Chicago's digital side, you know this guy, this is Glenn Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Glenn, I'm going to give you I will and Alex will and we'll first start off this discussion with what we think the bears need the most in the first couple of round first few rounds right then you can correct us and tell us which way you think they will go and but also let us know if there's a difference between and watching now of course there's a difference between Ryan polls with Matt Eberflos and Ryan polls with then Johnson so again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to correct us as we debate, as we always do healthy, healthy style, but I'll start off with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First and foremost, they need a D.T.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'll settle for an edge and I know this isn't a D.T.
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[SPEAKER_00]: draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't think you could take Caleb Banks in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't take Caleb Banks in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So really I think right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking about the was kid out of Clemson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he makes it to 25.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This, and that's the same with Alex's guy with the McDonald kid out of a, out of, uh, I wish you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need a run stuff in tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I need penetration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, for real, I need disruption and if, look, if you, and again now, if you're telling me the value isn't there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as rush, you have, as rush, you have great so much higher than whatever DT will be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fine with you not getting the DT in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe you need a center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Glenn, and I don't know what round that's one reason I definitely want you to be here to tell us the value as far as how far the depth that center could go and where you could perhaps get someone that next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see being your starter, but also glim in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what point, you know, let me ask you that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna start off with that and then we get back to this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what point does it become?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The quarterback needs himself needs to be able to set the line and know where the mic is and everything like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that for you, all right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that important at some point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it, hey, if you got a great center let the center rock as far as setting up the line?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's important at some point and the center of the better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: undoubtedly because more times and not that person, hey, you can see a little bit better than the center where as it's head down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he should be just not just the mic, but I'll see where the safeties are and be able to send the line protection as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that just helps with the synergy between the offensive line, the head coach, offensive coordinator, whoever that may be, if it's one of the same as well as the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think the quarterback, and if you look at it, you know, traditionally historically,
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[SPEAKER_03]: a lot of the great quarterbacks, they're able to do that with, you know, not with ease, but they're able to do that with a plum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, really, that's, that's like almost like a mandate if you ask me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I get it when you're young, understandable, particularly when you're going from coordinator to coordinator or system the system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The veterans center you have, you wanna lean on that person, but at some point, I, maybe, year, hopefully year two, no later than year three, year four, I'm kind of looking at a quarterback like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last time I was on a podcast with you, you did a very slick move, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You used Brett Farve as a cop for Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, are you still saying that he is a Brett Farve cop?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, undoubtedly, before he got drafted, I was like, his track is pathway to me,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you need to be able to harness that that genius that he has when he's on the field that, you know, that percosiousness that he has on the field, you need to someone to be able to harness that and ask to be someone that he respects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because if he doesn't respect them, it's not going to really happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And because if you don't harness it, he's going to get in the bad habits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to do the things we saw him do at USC, which had me question a little bit like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he the right person at the right time for the bears, because at that time was questionable to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because there was so much disarray with the Bears organizationally speaking, as far as their offensive structure and who the coordinator was gonna be and all so on and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it wasn't conducive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that first year we saw it, it was not conducive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he did do some of the things he did at USC, the things that weren't good, you know, in terms of habits, things that weren't good in terms of functionality between himself, offensive line and the receivers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He saw he and DJ Moore's relationship was really strange that first year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of those bad things were the things that I'm like, this is the reason why I was questioning whether or not we should take him because we weren't ready weren't set for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fortunately, Ben Johnson said, you know what, I can do something over there with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he came over here and he's that person, he's at my home room to breath far, he's just going to say he's so clearly is I was just going to say if Caleb Williams is a breath far should the bears have hired Mike McCarthy instead of Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we saw it, we saw the growing pains, we saw the first straight, saw the tight litness that they've been John's what I have on the sidelines.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he kept his cool in terms of not, you know, like, if you look back, if you can remember in my home room and Brett Farmer do things to pull your hair out, Mike home, we had that that's stare.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He wouldn't shot, wouldn't yell, but he would have that look, it was like, you know, it looks it get over here, you know, it looks like, it looks like, it looks like the hell was that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when I say anything, he's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes a mascot could be laughing, it could be upset.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The same face, but what you can do is tell about other things that the body language or how the shoulders move and so on and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we clearly saw, if you look back in play last year in your mind's eye, that my home room, Brett Farve, Ben Johnson, Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if you are a fuse of Caleb is when he talks about Ben Johnson, because he knows he needed that genius needs to be able to have something or someone that he or she can respect in order for them to Be able to Achieve beyond even their own expectations, which is saying a lot because genius has his own expectations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's hard to mentor genius.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to be able to be patient with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, stern, be redirected, but be pliable as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Ben Johnson offers that for the bears in for Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm afraid I should grab it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go go go go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I actually, and I'm, I'm going to make an executive decision right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put it in the chat if you didn't see the in the studio chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm going to make this two apps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're gonna make this two apps, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody, you can two apps of Glen Morgan, all right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you tune into the second episode, we'll release it in the upcoming days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I feel like we wouldn't be doing our due diligence, Glen, why we have you on here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do after the draft, once you come back and join us, but we haven't talked to you about the state of the bears on this platform and your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's get that in and then start draft talk and then we'll complete draft talk on the next episode too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, the safety situation, your thoughts on how that went down and then bringing in Kobe Bryant and what you perhaps would have done if you would have done anything different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, losing brisker was tough because he's young, you know, 26 year old guy and you can see how much effect he has on the field and on the team and the energy brings and
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not the perfect safety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He still has some coverage issues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But damn, if he didn't try hard, wasn't a right spot, seemingly when you needed them, when you really needed them would be there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's tough with his production that he had over his course the time here with the bears for that to be gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'd have to imagine for polls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was pretty difficult because he was one of the first two picks he made when he became the bear's general manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That being said, the injury issues, it wasn't soft tissue, it wasn't bone or sin you, wasn't with ligaments, it's concussing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as we know, those things repeat themselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're talking about a guy who plays with the ferocity that that position sometimes demands, you know, he played all the games last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But do you really expect that to continue?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you kind of have to make that decision.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a draft where there are some, there's a lot of safety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It all depends on how you utilize your safety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think if there was any time to move on from for Brisker, this was time to do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By your, that guy's borderline hall of fame, if you look at his career, I mean, I think he's 36 career in exceptions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think if the bear is time, he had over close to about 300 tackles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just phenomenal stuff, but you saw at times he was getting beat and coverage, you know, because he's not as young as as he once was so there was some liability there and it both of your safety's who you count on who are really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Our liabilities in coverage and one has injury issues and one is getting older, you know, when do you make the move and it's tough because you're coming off such a.
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[SPEAKER_03]: phenomenal year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the defense wasn't a top 10 defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The defense had a lot of turnovers and you're losing 19 out of the 23 turnovers you had that they're going off the team now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, exceptions from the fence of backs as well as your your line back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is a Sean right and yeah, see you later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So 19 out of just one of three and exceptions on a longer here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So making that move is tough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'd say when you do it,
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[SPEAKER_03]: particularly because this will be didn't, I don't be going to his second season as the D.C.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's enough players there that have been with the bears that they kind of understand what he wants, but it's still not established that you can grow still together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if you can, you know, accumulate some talent, some young talent, Kobe Bryant coming off of success.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you have that type of mentality and he's kind of his arrows pointing up a little bit in terms of his productivity as
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you compare that with another young vibrant athletic person who can provide some of what, you know, you're going to miss with a risk of being gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a good year to do that because again, like I said, you may not have the top in the state, the Caleb dance, he won't be there, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Dylan Theneman may or may not be there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But they're a host of like 6362 safeties that are there that play physical and sometimes you don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's who I'm really high on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's just a matter of time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think when you have veteran players, you still have a veteran corner backs out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You still have a veteran safety and Kobe Bryant may be new to the team, but he's not new to the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think you can place a guy in there right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you still have some of the other players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: who can maybe fill in in terms of their experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that have the explosives in this or the athleticism that will make me front line safety, but they have the experience that make them NFL safety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that, you know, player can take this kind of growth in that system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is the time to do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think I would have done anything differently because it's still gonna hurt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna just like, you know, short-term hurt now for long-term gain later, or do you stretch it a little bit longer and then hurt?
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know at a time where you don't need to hurt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think this team is still young enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're still figuring out who they are on defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And even on office is something to agree, but I think on defense is figuring out who they are in terms of who the playmaker is going to be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how can we construct this roster to look like what Dennis Allen needs so he can be as effective with his machinations out there on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They definitely are figuring out to do on offense with the past caches with D.J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Moore out of town.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, the bears are not a better team without D.J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Moore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That hurts them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That hurts their past catching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it the right trade?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could argue that, but you cannot argue that the bears are better without D.J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Moore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So my question for you, Glenn, is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who needs to step up the most among Colson Loveland, Luther Bird and Robert Dunesay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I guess who do you expect to have the biggest opportunity?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess those two are kind of related, but like who do there's really need to take a big step?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And where do you see the biggest opportunity among those three guys to take that next step and become?
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[SPEAKER_02]: a serious serious why there's past catching weapon for this team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure man so that question is yes, everybody that I'll give it to you in Spanish.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See, I'll give it to you in Italian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See, I'll give it to you in German.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, every,
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[SPEAKER_03]: know what everyone needs to step up and that's so easy and generic and answer I know what your you're asking more so specifically who can be that maybe that number one or that primary receiver so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, as far as going forward, Colson, as long as he stays healthy, I think you're going to be that primary receiver.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He really is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He does so much in the middle of field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so easy to find.
15:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He's such a good Titan after he catches the ball.
15:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And for a rookie to come in and lead the team and receptions and yards, even though he didn't start the season, that's phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially at that position Titan sometimes take a few years to develop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They really do, you know, you'd even then you're like, okay, thanks for your contributions, but not giving you something like Kelsey
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[SPEAKER_03]: Luther definitely stepped up and he came here to factor a person to kind of depend on in terms of a receiver when DJ was getting banged up, you know Is Luther best served at that exposition.
16:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's better served staying in the slot.
16:33
[SPEAKER_03]: He's such a difficult person to match up with and utilize him in so many different ways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can put him in a back for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can put him in motion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a yak monster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got the physicality of a good running back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: but the speed and athleticism and flexibility and the shifting this up a wide receiver out there and the open feel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Adunze is who he is and I think he needs to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he needs to be better at catching the ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The thing that was probably a little disappointing, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The thing that was a little disappointing was the fact that a lot of guys were targeted but their percentage of receptions were kind of low close and I think had the highest one with other receivers as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And with DJ being gone, you've got about 80 to 90 receptions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be split up, or at least targets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I should say they're going to be split up between the three of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That being said, I really think that the coaching staff and the general manager, they need to find another element to help those three guys be more effective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They need somebody to take the top off.
17:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And once you obtain that and you can find that in the strap because you don't you don't think that's Luther Barton you don't think Luther Barton is your James and Williams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't I think he's more of your say brown I think I think I think he's more of that role interesting I think he's more of that role It when I say that it doesn't necessarily mean that he has to be utilized the same with the lines use them, but I mean in terms of his versatility, you can utilize them wherever
18:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's that ex-factor, not that ex-receiver, but that ex-factor that makes it very difficult.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's that matchup problem, the teams have to try and figure out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The bears have a lot of matchup problems, a matchup problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Odunze can be a matchup problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once he kind of gets everything connected together in terms of, you know, his body, you know, in terms of controlling his body, being out there, leveraging his height and his speed, and as let us ask, let us listen to the way we saw him do in Washington.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once he can do that in a fellow level, he's also a matchup problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody should be a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You receive or should cause issues differently.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the one thing that's lacking right now, when I say take the top ball, Luther, they have good speed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking 4-3, legit at 4-3 speed, like 4-3, and maybe you could bump to 4-27 or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Someone who has that zero to 60 types of acceleration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And along with that long speed, that can continue down the field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when you're taking the top ball, everything in the middle is open for Luther to operate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a close and operate even for commit operate as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you're backs and out in the back, like who can flare out in catch.
19:09
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that they have that element, which is missing even if DJ did it and quite really have that, that good speed, not embarrassing, but I'm talking like, take the top off like, you know, when you go to Kansas City and you look at the young man out of Texas who was here, you look at worthy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That kind of take, like you're scared.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he was the fear of God and you're like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, cushion and he's still aided up that kind of speed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you can, when you can eat that up, it opens up so many things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what you're going to see the chiefs that's going to go a little tangential.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the chiefs are going to probably try and find that slot receiver who cannot rate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they can have a sheet rise, be the accent, have someone like maybe concepts you own out of sex to say to them, be someone that can be that shifty, you know, slot guy that can cause problems or maybe Omar Cooper who can go inside or outside.
19:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But my point, getting back to the bears,
19:59
[SPEAKER_03]: into your question, in terms of stepping up, I really do those days of one that really needs to step his game up.
20:07
[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably been slightly disappointing, comparatively.
20:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is tough to say, because just remember back in the day, like, oh, you know, you do your fancy team.
20:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my receivers in the third year.
20:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, he's a guy that I want.
20:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna get him.
20:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm focusing on him.
20:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but nowadays, it's like, hey, wait, get your sock, you're two.
20:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You only had 600 yards for seaming up.
20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
20:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Still not bad.
20:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still not bad, but he needs up his production.
20:32
[SPEAKER_03]: He does, and he's a, and the consistency really.
20:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and things that you can control like the drop balls at time, that keep in mind, sometimes Caleb makes a little difficult, you know, but sometimes he's guys, the passes are there, and I think Kados 58% prior than close to the 60, 61, 62, if then have his many drop balls as you did.
20:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And these guys are too talented to be dropping the ball like that.
20:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So,
20:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a second year in the system, everyone getting a little more used to it being healthy, I think they all will, you know, have a, you know, will improve, it's what degree we'll see, but to answer your question of doing days and one that really needs to stamp this game up.
21:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to stick with offense, but I still have some defensive questions that I'll ask you after this offensive line and I don't don't get me to play or just yet, right, we're saving that, but the offensive line Glenn is in a funny situation from the point of one an unexpected retirement and with Drew Dalman, you're definitely not expected him to, to, to, to, to, I don't want to say quit retire on you.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: after having such a good season, but the left tackle situation and how, in such a good question for someone like you where the draft is like, I feel like the draft is Christmas, where the draft is Christmas, that you seemingly seem like you found the answer at left tackle last year with Ozutra Pillow, right?
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But due to the severity of his injury and one,
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: how long you may take for him to be able to come back from it if you can come back this season.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But also his trajectory will still stay the same after having such an injury and how do you draft for that?
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: with thinking he will return, one of the things that Alex and I have talked about is perhaps a player that can be moved in on the line, as far as Joe Thuny being getting up in the age, not trying to get rid of him this year, but how would you, as a general manager, take care of the left tackle position, if you're using this draft to help you, no one that you may already have a left tackle in the house, but he may not be there from a majority of the season.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is where I go into my individual peshi from a JFK.
22:51
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a conundrum.
22:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm right inside of a riddle.
22:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of in need, but it's so crazy, man.
22:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And it is.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
22:58
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a riddle.
22:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a riddle.
22:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not in need, but they give you this conundrum.
23:02
[SPEAKER_03]: It is such a tough one.
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've you asked that question.
23:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been asked myself that question.
23:08
[SPEAKER_03]: pretty much ever since he got hurt, I'm like, oh, they have some issues.
23:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I think to some degree, I see what polls will at least potentially, I think I see what polls in company are trying to do, is that they're trying to give it a year and put as much of a masking as much duct tape as they can at that position.
23:26
[SPEAKER_03]: to get through the year to see what your pillow is and to see if they need to focus on maybe getting more of a first-second round person, I think maybe next year potentially.
23:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the defense has so many issues, they really need to focus on that.
23:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they believe they can get by at left tackle because if you think it by the last year, you had three different people start a left tackle.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Four.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Four.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You include the playoffs.
23:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Four to the deep start left tackle.
23:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, Braxton's still there.
23:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You've been at it, it was actually starting and it before it's your pillow.
23:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the pill is supposed to, it's true.
23:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like your swing tackle and he looked more like a right tackle when he got drafted.
24:00
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like, oh, you're like, oh, you're right.
24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack, what he got drafted, right?
24:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, but what if I'm saying like the way he looks in terms of like NFL his projection, there's some guys could be like, when right was taken, you say, well, he could play left or right because he did a little bit of golf and he's athletic.
24:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Your pillow looked like, now, man, you look just like a right tackle, like, that's all you ever go.
24:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you can play left tackle, all right, it's phenomenal.
24:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so that was kind of an unexpected pleasant
24:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think we've been at it, uh, uh, Brexit and with tragic, judgementalist, I think they're going to go with that free-headed monster at left tackle.
24:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they believe that Caleb is adept enough, and athletic enough, that he can handle it, knowing that to some degree, but being the second year in the offense, there'll be things that he should be able to do.
24:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I eat it over the ball a little more quickly.
24:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Be able to see where pressures come from and maybe,
24:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's tougher not because you don't have the center that you have before and that that that that that relationship between the two.
24:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So you got to relearn that again, but be on the same pace.
24:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Understand that that might be an issue.
25:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And then here's the thing to, you know, times, you know, this still can do 12 personnel that times maybe you're other time they can help you out over there too.
25:08
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think this year is going to be left tackle by committee.
25:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Understand he may still be good enough to be an offensive line and he could be your swing guy lip racks and go that Dredger girl easier swing tackle and then focus on either getting a free agent one that's available That's a really good one or you know draft someone that could be you know first round type of left tackle But yeah, and I don't I don't know if you can handle that much differently because I look the that the left tackles for this year and No one screams at me after maybe
25:46
[SPEAKER_03]: The 15th pick in the first round no one screams at me starting left tackle pillar that's the person you're going to have.
25:54
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of right tackles that are pretty good, but, you know, maybe you get lucky and you can find another rat tack right tackle that can do what your pill will did.
26:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not certain about that.
26:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think next year, maybe looking toward that in terms of addressing it off from the draft.
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna put a pin in that 15th.
26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't like anybody after 15 conversation for our next episode because my very first question that I wrote down for you, Glenn, is, why don't you like X player, the player?
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you don't like for a fact because we've had many conversations and texts about why you don't like this guy, but we're gonna save that for our next episode, why you don't like X, left tackle.
26:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm gonna kick it to something you basically said that you think their ideas this band a year,
26:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that an acceptable option?
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: In your opinion, to just punt and say, well, I hope one of these guys works out because there's a team that is trending up up winning in the NFL is extremely hard.
26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Continuing to win in the NFL is even harder.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you have the coach, when you have the quarterback, when you have all of this young ascending talent as we just talked about on offense,
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: is it acceptable to you to say you know what it's a band aid year at left tackle arguably the second most important position on the football team?
27:14
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not ideal but I think what we're dealing with here is not like the players that have played there have been god awful.
27:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So Benedict was having success.
27:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I think injury kind of nicknamed them up a little bit and then they went to Trapillo.
27:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that it was doing a good job there.
27:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Braxon gives you enough experience.
27:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Willis had success as a professional as well before his injury.
27:36
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we say band aid.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mean to be disrespectful to the players who were playing that position.
27:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I think their NFL quality is just that we don't have established right now as a definitive,
27:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You are the left tackle.
27:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You're the foundational edge that we have on offensive line.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's not obvious.
27:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think both, I think all three of these individuals are serviceable, or maybe just a tick above serviceable because they are a debt.
28:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And with Braxon and Benedict, they both been in the system for at least a season already.
28:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And Willis, I say an accomplished offensive linemen as far as enough offensive linemen.
28:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Ben Johnson is,
28:17
[SPEAKER_03]: a good enough coordinator, a good enough scheme or so to speak, that they can do things to, I don't want to say mass, but do things to where those guys aren't left on islands to where they get exposed beyond their capabilities.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And when they saw last year, you know, the game plans changed last year based on who was left angle.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You think there's a team to do that?
28:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that can definitely be the case.
28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know,
28:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Your question is, is it acceptable?
28:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know whether it's acceptable.
28:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, it's definitely not ideal.
28:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you gotta deal the hand you've dealt with.
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And there are other things that are more problematic believe it or not.
28:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And no left act was always important.
29:00
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the most important positions and then a fail has been for quite some time, obviously especially when you quarterbacks right hand it.
29:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But that defense man, you're not gonna win anything if you can't stop anybody.
29:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not gonna get as little
29:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I won't say love for you, but for two of us is that the bears, you know, were able to take advantage of last year, you don't expect that to repeat this stuff.
29:20
[SPEAKER_03]: History tells you that's not going to repeat.
29:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not at that level, not about that takeaways.
29:25
[SPEAKER_03]: to take away most definitely to take away but even the bin but don't break type stuff that with you know you're hanging all along keep your mind this is a team to give up 42 points three different times last year so that's not good you know and and you know you try to to go back to the playoffs and you're in a very difficult decision but more importantly
29:46
[SPEAKER_03]: you're at a very difficult conference.
29:48
[SPEAKER_03]: The end of season, just recently, it became like hard as hell.
29:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, serious, like almost every division is about outside of the South is about three teams deep.
29:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And I should, the South might be a strong two team deep with the Panthers on their upswing and have a base in me to be the team that's been the team to be, and I had to be sure for the last several years.
30:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You look at the West, I mean, Seattle, one of Super Bowl and Rams are right there.
30:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And 49ers, 49ers, if they're ever healthy are going to be a serious problem.
30:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, Cardinals, we'll see what happens.
30:22
[SPEAKER_03]: But the East, watch out for the Giants, Washington, quarterback gets healthy.
30:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a different situation.
30:30
[SPEAKER_03]: They need a few pieces, just like the bears.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: They need a few pieces on defense and make a difference.
30:34
[SPEAKER_03]: They need another receiver to kind of stress the field.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: get a good running back.
30:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you've driven my love falls to them.
30:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Watch out.
30:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And then obviously the Eagles are the Eagles.
30:44
[SPEAKER_03]: So in the Cowboys have been one of the Cowboys.
30:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Then one of the most talented teams.
30:48
[SPEAKER_03]: They just, yes, they're just under a team.
30:50
[SPEAKER_02]: They can just get like a player like Mike a Parsons or something.
30:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And they might, if our real Reese fall soon, you know, if you're a Reese fall soon, it could be the case.
30:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if they get another
31:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Safety wise of demons there for them.
31:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, they're issues are on defense as well, but offensively they're gonna be a problem.
31:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm gonna be a serious problem.
31:16
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and you know, and I mean, I didn't mean to say anything about our division because, you know, dream bay, it's not going anywhere.
31:23
[SPEAKER_03]: The lion's aren't going anywhere and the Vikings.
31:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Always said it just to quarterback away.
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and their defense, you know, they get one or two more players on defense, which is, you know, the way that they run around, they create havoc on defense.
31:39
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, man, it's, it's, the bears have to be able to stop somebody, man.
31:44
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to be able to stop and give every tackle somebody and stop man, I don't just mean turnover.
31:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to stop and, you know, three and out, you need some three and out.
31:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So the longer you're out there, the more you're exposed, they'll be out there, long you need to be.
31:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And the bears couldn't get off the field a lot of times last year.
31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I follow real quick?
31:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he said, yes, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, spots on Kyler Murray in Minnesota now.
32:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Kyler is such a polarizing character.
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And athlete really is I arguably, whenever he's on the field, he is one of the three best athletes every time he steps on the field.
32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, he is a five foot 10 dynamo, guys electric.
32:23
[SPEAKER_03]: He's he's he's high voltage, personality wise as well.
32:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if there's any quarterback-minded coach, if there's any, you know, quarterback whisperer out there, if there's any offensive coordinator, that can Cajol and harness and get the best out of out of Kyler.
32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Alcano and with a talent that's there, he's never had that kind of receiver talent.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even think he had in college.
32:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you haven't had it.
32:54
[SPEAKER_03]: He said a good receiver or two in the pros.
32:56
[SPEAKER_03]: He's had some talented receivers, little, you know, still undeveloped, you know, he left.
33:03
[SPEAKER_03]: But top three, arguably number one.
33:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Hell, no, you had that.
33:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You're tied in the solid and your third receiver is good and your number two receiver is good.
33:13
[SPEAKER_03]: You'd be at number one and most of the teams and you got all fits in line where you don't have to jinn a bug and scatter bug and do all the stuff he's done as much.
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: At the beginning, he might have stepped back a little bit further because they still tall, just so he can see if he was on offense alive, but he's never had this kind of office.
33:30
[SPEAKER_03]: So all he needs to do is realize he doesn't have to do everything, let the ego down a little bit, and I don't mean in a bad way, but sometimes people feel like I got to do everything, you get rid of that mentality, you know, issue that for when you need it, you know, the game or something like that, but the quarterback
33:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can see what he's done with left or talent.
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and you see, there's that with with good talent.
33:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So, so yeah, man, here's the thing.
33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of people are down on nine.
34:01
[SPEAKER_03]: They're down on.
34:04
[SPEAKER_03]: They're down on a young man McCarthy, but dude, he was thanks to this is rookie year last year.
34:09
[SPEAKER_03]: He showed flashes.
34:10
[SPEAKER_03]: He needs, he needs to get his ego and check a little bit too.
34:13
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's over.
34:13
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just youthful barbato.
34:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it, but in terms of depth of quarterback.
34:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And that'll be his third year in a system too, you know, second year, we may actually get some time to play a little bit.
34:25
[SPEAKER_03]: They've got some depth.
34:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's the one thing too that, you know, Green Bay doesn't have the depth that it did, you know, when Relic Willis was there, you know, but depth of quarterback, you know, you're gonna start looking at what's gonna separate you from the other, this week from the shafts this week.
34:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys start looking like, what can be that separator?
34:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you lose your main guy, how good are you?
34:43
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we think the bear should be decent.
34:46
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't really know.
34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: But we think there should be decent.
34:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the man behind Caleb is solid.
34:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he understands how the offense works.
34:57
[SPEAKER_03]: He's Jared Gough in the offense.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he's talking about.
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I don't doubt that.
35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think Kyler and Minnesota is going to be a problem.
35:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I really do.
35:09
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people don't think so.
35:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
35:12
[SPEAKER_03]: This like I thought was Sam Darnon went there.
35:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought, man, if you remember me talking about it, I was like, do watch off of the lighting.
35:18
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I said.
35:19
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the low key best moves.
35:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know it was going to turn out that great, but I knew I knew Nye wasn't going to start that year.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I might know, Darnon was going to be the star of it.
35:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That office, plus it was something similar that he ever said to go.
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So the time spent having to learn wasn't really there.
35:34
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just that the system just acclimating to the town around you, which again, is great freaking talent.
35:42
[SPEAKER_03]: The Vikings are going to be a problem.
35:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They all are going to be a Tyson, Tyson, Beijing, the Bears back up, you're right.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: They do do have the depth and the leak will it's not being there will affect.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Particularly switching up a game plan, mid game, that you weren't expecting to have a Russian quarterback.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we didn't plan for that.
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't plan for that.
36:01
[SPEAKER_00]: This game, right.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: No scout looks strong doesn't look like that.
36:07
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's Yeah, now the defense was exposed with mobile court.
36:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Snoop Huntly that mobile quarterback did something to Dennis Allen's defense is, and I want to end this with a couple of defensive questions.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get to the middle
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You, first of all, something we talked about.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I forget what game it was, but it was a receiver getting by, Kevin Bayer.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember me Alice came on here and I was like, we're going to have to talk in the offseason about even guys that are really good.
36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It may not be in your best plan resigning them because
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of guys was going through different different player zones, and I mean, with the celebration, it was like, wait, he's not catching up to him.
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we know CJ Gardner got Johnson was, he's not there primarily as a coverage guy, but he was one of those guys, but Kevin Barrett was one of those guys.
36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We were like, hold on, hold on a minute, as far as coverage wise.
36:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, I don't know what we're going to do in Europe, what you also,
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, hit on we're talking about the back end too.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the, this is called safety for a reason.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for real, right.
37:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the, that's it.
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You get back.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You get about that.
37:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We had some trouble to safety is off.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to get, um, and speaking of coverage issues.
37:23
[SPEAKER_00]: They had that with the linebackers.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And you saw that with the 49ers game a lot.
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And particularly, you have a guy with tremendous admins who was having a phenomenal season prior to getting hurt last year.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But never truly seemed like was a fit for this system.
37:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about Maddie Bifu's one in the Erlacker Cover II kind of guy to be a disruptor, to have length.
37:49
[SPEAKER_00]: We have it to help fall back.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: your thoughts on them bringing in Devin Bush and on the line back of court right now.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But also the the line like this man right here was trying to convince me that the sweat effect was still an effect and it's I'm not I'm not feeling the vibes.
38:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, when we're talking about the difference of front because I think that's going to be something we talk about the line in the next episode.
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts on how this defense play with his front four, but also the lab acting core and adjustments or adjustments they need to do move forward.
38:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, it's, you guys kind of alluded earlier with the question like, what are we, what areas do the bears you to focus on the most or and what have you, especially defensively and I know for you can you're talking to defensive line and and I get it I really do.
38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't disagree that being said, if you ask me what I'm on the most concerned about, i.e.
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[SPEAKER_03]: wary slash low key scared in terms of like, man, I don't know, it's a linebacking position.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The depth and the height.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dev is only five eleven.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Remains like 6465 that that's the significant difference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That worries us coming.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He won't be back any time soon I think Dev had a really good year and Cleveland is best years a pro But I also think that Garrett Miles Garrett had a lot to do with the things and the fact of this that Everybody can do a lot better when they ever Cleveland he's playing you know in a lot of ways He's a good player don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a good get
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's an issue and I think the bears need to address that in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are a couple linebackers up a like for them to get.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how that's going to play out in the course of the year because some positions it takes a bit and certain systems are taking my take a little bit longer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still trying to see Dennis Allen how it how it plays with a linebackers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he's been around for a while but just seeing you know how your team is affected by the
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[SPEAKER_03]: Matt signed to this type stuff, you know, out of necessity that he did last year that it worked and it was just like pulling stuff out your head like I don't know, like I didn't go through all these papers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I found this what I think this back in 2000 in the last.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, it worked great, you know, and it worked for that week and not the next week, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think to make
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[SPEAKER_03]: To help out those linebackers, I'm with you, I think that the fence of front has to be addressed and the interior more specifically, because with Devon, I don't see him being that guy that sheds stacks and sheds blocks to get to the tackles at the he needs to have some of that debris cleared in front of them, so he can use that let us in quickness and speed to make the tackle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's very good at tackling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't know how good he has it getting off the block to have to make that tackle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then, you know, when it comes to coverage, um, I think he's OK side to side, I'm not sure how I will be as in terms of dropping back where I think your name was better at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And training law on the limb also could help account for some space, and you're gonna be missing that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think him at worst were contend them so well that they covered literally so much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And with the length that Edmund's even dropping back helped that middle a little bit to that's going to be gone so you need to find something like that and they didn't really get that type of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Replacement in terms of that type of body type that architect you know middle line back or so to speak you know the 6263 to 35 to 255 type kind of guy that's going to be that person I don't know if you necessarily need that an Allen's defense but it doesn't hurt to have it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I'm concerned about, I was kind of about the line back in area.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really am, you know, if you really press me out, I'm worried actually about let me ask you this let me ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, with the injuries that TJ Edwards has been having, um, and not being being a very astute high IQ instinctive player, but not necessarily being a super athletic player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not this season, but you're talking about perhaps drafting a linebacker with that guy being the guy as you're talking about will have the physical tangibles that you mentioned as far as size and length.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you draft someone and not again not this season, but perhaps look for them to play middle and perhaps to push over bush to play weekside, which seems like physically he may be a better fit for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if that and again, I haven't looked that far into the future for that in that position for next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of quarterbacks are becoming out, so that'll make other positions a little more fruitful to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not come down, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly, but I, I think there are a couple of linebackers in the strat that you can get that can facilitate some of what you need, but like I was trying to say earlier, sometimes some position it takes a little bit longer to acclimate into the pros.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We saw a hip and legs struggle a lot last year, and I think here's the thing too, and I know I go on my tendons, but defensive edge, edge rushers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It takes those guys a little while as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The ones are top 10, usually not as much, but once you get into the late teens and to the 20s on down, it usually takes two, maybe three years for those guys, really.
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[SPEAKER_03]: are impactful the way that you thought they would be, the way you saw them in college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To me, Edge Rushert is almost as difficult to figure out as quarterback he used to be, say, in the late 90s and early 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a very difficult position to really analyze in terms of how it's going to play out on prose, because sometimes these guys are one trick ponies, but it works so well in college, because they're athletically better than the guy person that they're facing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you may have a guy that has a pretty decent toolbox, you know, and he has the ability to, you know, sequence some loose together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You think, oh, man, this guy's going to be great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then you realize he maybe he doesn't have the physicality to hold the point, you know, hold the edge, you know, when the run comes, maybe he's just a, you may just a past rushing specialist, you know, but you thought he was all this down the other, you look at David Bailey coming out of Texas tech.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably going to go top three and I think he deserves it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's been very consistent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you saw him do well enough at Stanford.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He really exploded when seen last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Texas tech and I think he's got that band.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got that explosion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we get the NFL level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're facing tackles who are experienced and they've been dealing with the best of the best before you even got there can you get off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not be swallowed up by those guys can you offer enough in the run that they respect you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So.
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[SPEAKER_03]: getting back to linebacker, that's another position sometimes where all the ping-a-pong, what's expected to do these, how much responsibilities is on you to read and react or are you attacking type kind of linebacker?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever the case might be, sometimes it may take a bit to acclimate, you know, mentally with what's expected and being able to fulfill to where you're not thinking what you have to do, you can just go ahead and play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It may take a moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm kind of looking for that type of linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are a few in this draft who I think,
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[SPEAKER_03]: they've played enough different systems, and they have the mental acuity and flexibility that I think they can fit, particularly in a system if the athleticism is necessarily shooting off the board.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe you get one of those players and then maybe next year you can get another player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So me San Boorn coming back helps out a lot, you know, I think it does with the size that you may need and the experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, it's a mixed bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And while I backers don't go as high as I used to, unless they're super special, and you don't necessarily have that in this particular draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, listen, don't go anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone will do go somewhere because this next episode's coming out in a couple of more days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're gonna have a draft up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, following this one, with this man right here, Glenn Morgan, educating us on what moves he believes the bear should make and perhaps any other team that we throw at him before we let him go on about his weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always, I gotta thanks Glenn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks Alex, I'm Kenneth Davis, and this is the Winni City podcast on fansighted.