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Full Show Podcast: 08 December 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: Early Erdship with r V Supercenter explore r V successories
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  Speaker 2: It'd be as.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome moarning to you and welcome to summer so today
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  Speaker 3: on the program in the next hour. How green are
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  Speaker 3: the green shoots in our economy? A new ASB forecast
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  Speaker 3: is good reading and we'll get gred Olsen's core on
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  Speaker 3: it in about five minutes time. Max Verstappen wins in
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  Speaker 3: abud derby, but Lando Norris did enough for his maiden
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  Speaker 3: World championship. Elliott Smith on the Weekend Sport in ten
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  Speaker 3: minutes time. Meanwhile, Rugby should be very worried after the
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  Speaker 3: A League derby on Saturday, and I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 3: Just after the six thirty news, and Andrew Costa throws
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  Speaker 3: everyone under the bus. Was he right? Was that a
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  Speaker 3: smart thing to do or not? We'll have that story
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  Speaker 3: for you just before six we'll have correspondence from right
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  Speaker 3: around New Zealand and Gavin Gray out of the UK
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  Speaker 3: and you can have your say by using the text.
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  Speaker 3: The number is ninety two to ninety two. Small charge
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  Speaker 3: does apply. It is seven minutes after five.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 3: So it's Monday, the eighth of December and German Chancellor
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  Speaker 3: Fredrik Nittz has met with Netanyahu in Israel and he's
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  Speaker 3: pushing to get the Gaza cease fire into its second phase.
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  Speaker 3: So Benjamin Netanyah, who says he's got some very important
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  Speaker 3: conversations mind up at the end of the month, and
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  Speaker 3: he says he's got a meeting with Trump in December.
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  Speaker 2: So now opportunities for peace are there, we tend to
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  Speaker 2: exploit them. I'm going to discuss them with the President
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  Speaker 2: Trump when I meet him later on this month, but
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  Speaker 2: we discussed them as well, and we discussed, of course
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  Speaker 2: how to bring an end to the Hamas rule in Gaza,
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  Speaker 2: because that's an essential part of ensuring a different future
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  Speaker 2: for Gaza and a different future for us well.
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  Speaker 3: On Gaza. A bit later on in the program to
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  Speaker 3: the Formula one and Abu Dhabi and Landa Norris has
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  Speaker 3: won his first Formula one title by finishing third, and
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  Speaker 3: it's fair to say his fans are stoked.
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  Speaker 4: Relieve you know, it was everything unbelieva.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, a max h step and won the Grand Prix,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't enough Oscar Piastri came second. Liam Lawson
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  Speaker 3: was eighteenth after starting thirteenth, and he was a lapdown
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  Speaker 3: on the winners. And finally, Katy Perry and former Canadian
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have gone Instagram official. The singer
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  Speaker 3: posted a string of photos and videos of their trip
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  Speaker 3: together to Japan. In one picture, Katie and Justin are
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  Speaker 3: seen smiling for a selfie with their faces touching. In
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  Speaker 3: another video, the pair are seen trying sushi. You know what,
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  Speaker 3: He kissed a girl and he liked it.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Dickens and R The Supercenter explore R these accessories and
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  Speaker 1: servicing all in one news talk.
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  Speaker 3: Said be so this morning, I walked in and the
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  Speaker 3: newspapers out. In the paper's headline is a warning from
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  Speaker 3: a credit agency that the government's rites as will make
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  Speaker 3: it harder for the Orcan Council to balance us books.
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  Speaker 3: Are you surprised, I'm not. And it won't just be
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  Speaker 3: the Orcan Council, It'll be all councils. The rate caps.
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  Speaker 3: They said it's to stop the dumb stuff, and others
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  Speaker 3: have said it's to stop the nice to haves. So
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  Speaker 3: we can have more needs to haves, but you know what,
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  Speaker 3: the nice to haves are the least of our problems.
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  Speaker 3: It's the need to haves that's costing so much. It's
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  Speaker 3: the water and the rubbish, and the roads and the
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  Speaker 3: footpaths and the public transport that swallow the bulk of
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  Speaker 3: your rates, and that is now going to be cut
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  Speaker 3: with the rates cap. So what it will mean for
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  Speaker 3: all of us is an increase in the cost of living,
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  Speaker 3: the very thing this government swore to get on top of,
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  Speaker 3: because councils are going to be looking to find their
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  Speaker 3: funds now elsewhere so they can do your water and
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  Speaker 3: your rubbish and your roads. And you know what that
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  Speaker 3: means When they're looking for funds helsewhere, that means queueser pays. Already,
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  Speaker 3: organ councilors wanting to push residential parking permits up by
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  Speaker 3: fifty bucks a year, expect more increases in costs. Brace
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  Speaker 3: yourself for it. The charges will take the place of
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  Speaker 3: your rates, and the charges could feed inflation. But it
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  Speaker 3: looks good to the electorate. Seventy five percent of us
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  Speaker 3: support rate caps because we all hate taxes, we all
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  Speaker 3: hate rates, But do we really understand the implications. Once again,
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  Speaker 3: the government's moves are going to have an unintended consequence
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  Speaker 3: of making things more expensive, like the moves against payWave.
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  Speaker 3: The government moved against payWave. They know that we don't
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  Speaker 3: like the surcharge. But did they get rid of the searchcharge. No,
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  Speaker 3: they just moved the costs onto the retailer, with the
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  Speaker 3: consequence of higher prices. It's also reminiscent of the way
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  Speaker 3: they've unilaterally increased employer's Kiwisaver contributions. Now that puts even
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  Speaker 3: more pressure on small medium businesses and their cash flow.
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  Speaker 3: And what does that mean higher prices. The government likes
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  Speaker 3: to say they're cutting out tax but what's really happening
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  Speaker 3: is the taxes are being disguised as user pays and
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  Speaker 3: they're moving them ever closer to your bottom lines. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's called user pays for a reason because you,
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  Speaker 3: the user, will still have to pay.
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  Speaker 1: News Talk said B.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe we've got more money to pay these things
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  Speaker 3: because the new ASB reports on our financial health is
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  Speaker 3: out and says that twenty twenty six is when the
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  Speaker 3: whim will turn. So what did they say and how
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  Speaker 3: do we feel about it? We're going to talk to
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  Speaker 3: brad Olsen in a few moments time from Inframetrics to
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  Speaker 3: talk all about this, and later Elliot Smith on the
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  Speaker 3: black Caps, Formula one orkand FC and oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 3: the Ashes. There's a lot still to come. It's early edition.
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  Speaker 3: It's News Talk, sabb.
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  Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins and r V Supercenter explore
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  Speaker 3: Said b it's time for some good news and the
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  Speaker 3: time is fourteen minutes after five, so survive until twenty
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  Speaker 3: five mins the mantra that we heard, but the ASP
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  Speaker 3: has come out with a new report that says twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six is when the worm will turn. They are
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  Speaker 3: seeing clear signs of life. Consumers are spending again, big
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  Speaker 3: ticket buyings back on the table, and interest rates of course,
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  Speaker 3: as we all know, finally easing off. So brad Olsen
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  Speaker 3: from Informetrics Joints were now goodby to your brand. Good morning,
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  Speaker 3: So this sounds right to you.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, we have seen a number of indicators that have
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  Speaker 5: started to shift around and are sort of setting up
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  Speaker 5: a bit more of that growth as we head into
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. I mean, consumers spending did see a
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  Speaker 5: good boost in the September quarter and has continued to
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  Speaker 5: sort of show some signs, especially under the hood, that
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  Speaker 5: there is a bit more willingness to spend by consumers.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that you know, your electronic sales, your car
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  Speaker 5: numbers and similar have been improving. There's been a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more activity in the housing market. Those are encouraging
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  Speaker 5: because clearly kiwis are sort of doing something with their money.
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  Speaker 5: And at the same time you stay and see job
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  Speaker 5: prospects that are turning around slowly as well.
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  Speaker 6: And I think the point that Ape's made is that
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that everything's absolutely immediately firing on all cylinders,
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  Speaker 5: but the conditions are very much therefore greater economic activity
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  Speaker 5: to happen next year.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you reckon it took so long? This is
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  Speaker 3: your record. Why do you took reckon it took so
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  Speaker 3: long for the economic recovery to take hold.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I think we were actually seeing a bit more
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  Speaker 5: momentum at the start of this year. Again, it was
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  Speaker 5: still pretty limited.
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  Speaker 6: But there was a little bit whereas the sort.
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  Speaker 5: Of middle of this year was impacted by just a
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  Speaker 5: bit of a lot of uncertainty around the tariffs and
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  Speaker 5: similar that I think just sort of put any of
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  Speaker 5: those better improvements and just sort of put them down.
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  Speaker 5: You know, businesses and households just weren't confident enough to
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  Speaker 5: keep spending like they were before. And even at the moment,
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  Speaker 5: you're still seeing sort of patchy results. You know, there
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  Speaker 5: was good spending activity through this September quarter.
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  Speaker 6: But Black Friday sales look like they've.
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  Speaker 5: Probably disappointed a touch compared to expectations. So again, it's
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily that you've sort of got this wholehearted pace
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  Speaker 5: across the entire economy. But over time, those lower interest
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  Speaker 5: rates are doing what they need to to stimulate people
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  Speaker 5: to spend. It's not worth saving as much anymore. It's
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  Speaker 5: not worth you know, people who are having to put
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  Speaker 5: their money into the mortgage to the same degree, and
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  Speaker 5: so over time that money is becoming a locked plus
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  Speaker 5: of course, and I think this is probably the big one.
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  Speaker 5: You've now had a consistent enough period of good primary
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  Speaker 5: sector returns that starting to show through in the economy
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  Speaker 5: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Because I was reading our Siven Bridges last week in
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  Speaker 3: one of those mood of the boardroom things that the
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  Speaker 3: herald writes from time to time, and he wrote, and
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  Speaker 3: it was his first sentence. He wrote that as he
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  Speaker 3: gets older, he begins to realize just how important sentiment is.
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder whether we were all guilty of actually
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  Speaker 3: squashing our sentiment by our continual going on about just
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  Speaker 3: how stuff the economy is after the last regime? Did
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  Speaker 3: we talk ourselves down?
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  Speaker 5: There is an element to that. I mean, you're right
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  Speaker 5: that confidence is quite important, and that's why it's been
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  Speaker 5: so interesting over the last year that you've had very,
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  Speaker 5: very high business confidence which has probably been a little
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  Speaker 5: bit too over the top, but you know, fairly subdued
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  Speaker 5: consumer confidence, which has felt almost a little bit overly downbeat.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that the truth is probably somewhere a
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  Speaker 5: bit more in the middle. You don't necessarily want the
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  Speaker 5: economy that.
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  Speaker 6: Like you say, is talking it south down all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Equally, you can't, you know, look at the economy and
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  Speaker 5: talk it up massively if there are fundamental challenges in there.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that there's a little bit of truth
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  Speaker 5: more through the middle. One big challenge for this year
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  Speaker 5: for consumers has been the labor market. It's all fine
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  Speaker 5: and well to think that you know your mortgage race
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  Speaker 5: is going down and that will lead to better things.
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  Speaker 5: But if you're worried about your job, and people have been,
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  Speaker 5: that's still a pretty big limitation that keeps people in
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  Speaker 5: their shells. And you're starting to see a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of movement there recently with a slight improvement and job adds,
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  Speaker 5: so that's starting to change the dial on the labor market.
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  Speaker 3: Jobs, fun, good stuff. Brad, have yourself a great summer
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  Speaker 3: and don't forget to go out there and spend some money.
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  Speaker 3: Same with you, say with us all, Brad Olsen, and
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  Speaker 3: for metrics principle. Now, of course, the big economic news
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  Speaker 3: over the course of the week was that Ikea opened
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  Speaker 3: in Auckland and people are saying, what's that impact going
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  Speaker 3: to be and who's going to be impacted by it?
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  Speaker 3: And I see that Kmart this is new analysis has
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  Speaker 3: come out from Forsyth Bar. Kmart is doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Kmart is earning twice as much per square meter and
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  Speaker 3: has gross margins eight percent higher than the warehouse, so
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  Speaker 3: they're doing okay. The warehouse ain't doing so good. The
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  Speaker 3: warehouse's full year result posted in September showed that the
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  Speaker 3: company had a loss of two point eight million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Kmart's financial result for twenty twenty five was that they
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  Speaker 3: made one hundred and two million dollars profit and total
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  Speaker 3: sales over one billion dollars for the first time. So
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  Speaker 3: this is good news for kmart, a bit of a
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  Speaker 3: worrying news, piece of news for the warehouse. And meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: Ike has only just started, so watch this space. Max
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  Speaker 3: Verstapping is not the world champion, but he did win
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  Speaker 3: the race. More on the F one, the cricket which
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  Speaker 3: was extraordinary, and the football to come next with Elliot
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  Speaker 3: Smith on News TALKSB twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: Talks edb.
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  Speaker 3: Welton into the office just before fore as you do
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  Speaker 3: and who's there? But Elliott, yes, that was very early.
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  Speaker 4: It was early. You wake up early, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Know, but all Orders is never here that early. You
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  Speaker 3: were here very early for the F one.
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  Speaker 4: I was here really because they wake up at half
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  Speaker 4: past one and couldn't give it this week, so I
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  Speaker 4: thought let's just get out of bed and get into
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  Speaker 4: the day, and not because the IF one was on
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  Speaker 4: there's a bit of other sport obviously on I thought,
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  Speaker 4: let's get into the office and keep things off. And oh,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a great Formula One finish.
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  Speaker 4: I mean didn't have the fireworks that maybe we wanted.
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  Speaker 4: It was a fairly straightforward race, even with Max for
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  Speaker 4: Stapping winning the race, and but in the terms of
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  Speaker 4: the title scheme, he was never really a threat to
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  Speaker 4: Lando Norris taken the whole thing up.
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  Speaker 3: But when you consider what was happening at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the season, when it was a McLaren procession totally,
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  Speaker 3: this season actually ended out quite exciting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the Stapping can take a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I think he won more races than anyone else in
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  Speaker 4: the season, But just on the points alone, I couldn't
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  Speaker 4: quite get that they found something towards the back end
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  Speaker 4: of the season. Didn't they read Bull with that car
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  Speaker 4: with the stappin and next season. We don't want to
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  Speaker 4: look too head too early because Landa Norris is only
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  Speaker 4: one at what an hour or two ago, But you know,
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  Speaker 4: you'd think that Red Bull are well placed next year
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  Speaker 4: if they can get their car right to go back
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  Speaker 4: to her.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows they've all got new cars. Hopefully Liam gets
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  Speaker 3: a new cast down and thirteenth ended out, Eighteenth went
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  Speaker 3: back five places.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, time penalty didn't help fourteenth for the season. Look,
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  Speaker 4: he's got a drive confirmed next year. And that's the
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  Speaker 4: main thing I think for Liam Lawson.
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  Speaker 3: And you're here because all of this of course goes
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  Speaker 3: to test matches and so he would have had a
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  Speaker 3: very difficult day over the course of the weekend because
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  Speaker 3: that last day, I mean I watched it and it
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  Speaker 3: was it was just like, come on, come on, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, struck by injuries, we just couldn't knock them
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  Speaker 3: off in the windy is huge score.
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  Speaker 4: You've got the sense though one away, didn't you that
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  Speaker 4: the black Caps if they could they got those couple
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  Speaker 4: and they got to six down. If they get one more,
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  Speaker 4: that exposed the tailor a little bit, but they just
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  Speaker 4: couldn't quite do it. And if you can rotate your
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  Speaker 4: bowlers a little bit more, if you have a Nathan
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  Speaker 4: Smith in there, you have obviously Matt Henry that the
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  Speaker 4: spearhead of the pace attack, then you put a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more pressure on the Western these they missed that.
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  Speaker 4: Not only they missed Matt Henry, who was one of
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  Speaker 4: the best pace ballers I think in the world, but
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  Speaker 4: they missed the rotation of that and keeping them fresh, and.
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  Speaker 3: So now they've got the call up happening and all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of kids are coming into.
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  Speaker 4: Them thirty years old race. Yeah, I would have liked
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  Speaker 4: to see the West Indys have a bit more of
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  Speaker 4: a crack for I understand why it didn't. The draw
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  Speaker 4: was pretty good result for them. They're eighty runs shy,
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  Speaker 4: you know the final session, why not.
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  Speaker 3: Have a crack?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, one more then shut up. If there's another look
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  Speaker 4: at you, then you shut up shop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, true, true enough. But but you know, here's
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  Speaker 3: the thing, We've got another test to come. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do we have the depth.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I look at the little
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  Speaker 4: I would like to see them go a bit more
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  Speaker 4: youth with this elections. I think it's a question mark.
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  Speaker 4: So with some of those players in the team batting
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  Speaker 4: wise and also bowling wise, so this was probably the
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  Speaker 4: series to do it. Now they've got injuries, they're still
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  Speaker 4: bringing in in. You know, thirty year old Michael Rah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's twirled and he's done well in domestic cricket,
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  Speaker 4: but you can't tell me there's a young kid out
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  Speaker 4: there that would be worth the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Good like you, Oh allders, Orders to play, Orders to play,
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  Speaker 3: I'd loved him Trembling, five twenty four Costa interview, More
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  Speaker 3: News Talks, It Be. It's five twenty seven. Arm Andrew
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  Speaker 3: Dickens runs here for the drivetime show. Hea, that's doing
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  Speaker 3: the breakfast show. So what do you make of the
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Costa interview on Q and A Yesterday? First question
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  Speaker 3: is why did he do it?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Obviously he felt he'd been thrown under the bus by
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  Speaker 3: Judith Collins, Mark Mitchell and Richard Chambers at that recent
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  Speaker 3: press conference, so he was prepared to throw them under
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  Speaker 3: the bus as well, So he did the interview. And
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  Speaker 3: he does have a point when the IPCA report did
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  Speaker 3: not mention corruption, but the politicians and the new police
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  Speaker 3: Commissioner inferred it, so he had to protect his name,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: and the protection of his name is the reason he
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: negotiated with the Public Service Commissioner in the delay in
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  Speaker 3: resigning from his latest job. In frankly, I don't blame him,
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  Speaker 3: and what did the Public Service commissioners say about him?
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  Speaker 3: He told Mike last week that Andrew Costa always seemed
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  Speaker 3: genuine in all his dealings with them. So the problem
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  Speaker 3: is with the throwing under the bus is that Costa
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  Speaker 3: has no proof of his claims and so now we
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: have a ridiculous he said, he said situation, and nobody
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  Speaker 3: is able to provide concrete proof of what they said
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  Speaker 3: or may not have said at the time. Now Costa
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  Speaker 3: may have brief Mitchell and Hipkins of the situation, but
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  Speaker 3: what does that mean? Which situation was he talking about?
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: How much detail did he do? Was he telling them, Oh, yeah,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Mick s Gibbons had an affair, it's gone a bit wrong.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Or did he tell him, oh, the police force has
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: been covering up one of them own. How much detail
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: of anything did he give them in these informal briefings.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Who knows because no one was keeping notes. And here's
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the thing, The fascinating fact he mentioned in that interview
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: is that the police this is a three billion dollar
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: business which makes the job of police commissioner one of
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: the biggest CEO positions in our economy. And ask any
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: CEO whether they take notes of any conversation about their business,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: and they'll tell you it's imperative. Loose lips ships. One
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: would have thought that taking notes after a conversation about
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: this sort of stuff is imperative for a commissioner, also
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: for any minister of the Crown as well. And I'm
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: looking at you, mister Hipkins and mister Mitchell. My whole
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: impression after the interview is that everyone was a bit loose.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: It's a tawdry tale of bad judgment at the top
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: of our public service, both the public servants and of
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: course the politicians. And remember the buck always stops at
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: the top, and the politicians are at the top. It
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: also reminded me that the political battles at the top
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: levels of our public service are actually very vicious affairs,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: and everyone plays a very hard game. And Richard Chambers
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: was in competition with a very competent police officer in
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Mcskimming who had a hidden sex life and a preblection
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: for animals. But you have to wonder how Richard Chamber
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Chambers in that competition didn't know anything on what did
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: he know? Who knows who was taking notes? Nobody, So
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: at the end of it all. One can only hope
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: that mister Costa and missus Z find some new normal
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: and some peace and everyone learns to take their jobs
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: more seriously.
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: Sid B.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: So we're going to have more with this with Matthew Haig.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Now Matthew Haig as a lawyer, but he's also a
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: former cop and we'll ask him what he felt after
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: that interview and where we might get to go hing forward.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: So that's still to come. Took him out the FC game,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the Derby Game amazing and Gavin Gray from the UK
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: all on early edition. I'm Adrew Dickins.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Good Morning, the news you need this morning and the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: in depth analysis earlier edition with Andrew Dickens and r
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• 18:04
  Speaker 3: The Morning jud Welcome to your Monday. Summer starts here.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Mike's on holiday, Heathers doing the Breakfast Show, Ryan's during
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the Drive Show, and I'm Andrew Dickens and I'm doing
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: early addition right up to Christmas and then the summer
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Breakfast Show. And this is a little bit of What's
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Katy Perry. This a little bit of Lady Gaga and
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I'm playing Lady Gaga for a reason, because she played
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Melbourne over the course of the weekend at the Marvel Stadium.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: My boy went because he's living in Melbourne and a
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: lot of our staff have gone over there to do this.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Seven hundred dollars tickets. Can you believe it? However, there's
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: some controversy about the Lady Gaga show. The show itself
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: was fantastic, the singing was fantastic, but everyone looked at
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the staging and said, Hello, that's the stage. That's the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: stage she uses when she's playing like Spark Arena. When
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: she's playing an indoor stadium. That's not the big stage
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: she uses for the big stadium. Hey are you Lady Gaga?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Have you skimped? Are you guysually giving us a lower
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: level show? What's that all about? People got upset about it,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: but like I say, the tunes were great, but I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: can't oscillate. She's not coming here, is he? Come on down,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Lady Gega, you'll love it now. On the Saturday, I
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: was in the Cormandle and it was clear blue skies
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: and thirty two degrees. So I did the sensible thing,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: which was to hide inside away from the sun and
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: watch the football. And it was Auckland FC against the
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix, their fifth there at Derby. And boy, what
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: a game. What a game, real feeling, excellent goals, particularly
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Lucky Brooks for Auckland. It was a beautiful gold Rufus
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: golf for Wellington was a screamer. The crowd of twenty
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: two thousand were fully involved. They were singing their hearts
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: out and I thought, you know, watching this so much fun.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: This is what rugby should be afraid of. Football League
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: and basketball have embraced the spectacle and excitement of sport
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: and it makes for a great product. Any MPC or
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Super rugby game would love to have what the Black
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Knights and the Knicks had on Saturday. But they don't.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: And I don't know why. Why Why do New Zealand
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: rugby crowds watch games silently, scowling with grumpy faces. Why
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: do the not sing? Everybody else around the world when
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: they're watching football has a has a sing when they're
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: watching rugby. You know, listen to the Welsh, listen to
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: the Angers, swing, swing low and all that sort of carrier,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: But not New Zealand crowds. We're just there being grumpy
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: football and league crowds watching their sport was wis de
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: viv and it's because well, their sports are better games.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: League was invented because rugby was dull. Basketball and football
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: are the biggest sports in the world because they're fun
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: and rugby is not. Rugby has to find its joy
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: because a new generation is coming and they like to
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: have fun when they pay good money. Does it be
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: twenty six around the country? We go Callen Proctor out
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: of Otaga. Good morning to your calum morning Andrew. So
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: we've got a Southern gang pad that's been raided.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, look it's in fact it's been the scene of
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: a number of prolonged and torchsu speatings. It could be
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: now confiscated. Andrew Crown Lawyers have applied for a forfeiture
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: order covering what is the Mongrel Mobs headquarters in Matoda
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: and the next door six in an Albion Street. They
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: have a combined rtable value of three hundred and forty
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: seven thousand dollars in Matoda and Open Justice reports that
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: several beatings took place there between January and November twenty
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: twenty two. This resulted in six gang members being jailed.
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: Look please say the property is symbolic of the gang's
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: perceived powerful status in Southland and this forfeiture applications to
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: be decided.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: At a later date.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Take it and crush it. How's your weather?
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: I've got rain in the south to this morning, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: it's clearing to find for Dunedin today, nor easterly this
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: afternoon and twenty.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: The high and I thank you, Claire. Sure it joins
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: US Film Canterbury, Hella Claire, good morning. Tell me about
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the Special Olympics.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: Yes, well, the Special Olympics is believed to be the
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: perfect event to open our part of key Audae Metro
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: Sports Center this week. This, of course is for the
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: event itself. The public will be allowed into the venue
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: from next week. At the moment, we've had a final
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: tour through as a media group, finding that the finishing
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: touches are being ticked off at the venue. There will
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: be eleven pools, There are spas, five hydrous lines and
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: of course nine sports courts. More than twelve hundred athletes
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: will be competing in christ Jurge in ten sports at
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: six different venues, including part of Yorday from this Wednesday.
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: City Council's head of Recreation, Sport and Events at Nigel Cox,
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: says it's an ideal event to kick things off and
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: showcase all that the city has to offer. He says,
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: Partak Yorda is hosting various events, including swimming and basketball,
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: and they're expecting an amazing number of spectators as well.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: All right, you're making it all jealous, what with one
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: stadium to care her opening as well, Christi, which has
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: gone off. How is your weather?
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: It sure is down here, cloud increasing, a bit of
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: scattered rain developing a bit later. Should clear to find
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: though by midday, cloud increasing in the evening northwesterlies and
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: the high twenty four to Willington.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: We go to be is Macintosh, good morning, Good morning Andrew.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: How are you.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I'm well. We've got a team who could be detained indefinitely.
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, now, this is actually a fairly grim story. The
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: family of a ten year old boy who was subjected
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: to a sexual assault in the public toilets of a
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: lower Hut playground says the teen attackers mental and intellectual
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: conditions created a foreseeable risk. A relative says the defendant
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: should have been better assessed, managed and supervised in his
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: day to day activities, but Ordogon Tamidiki says it was
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: limited in its powers to actually physically detain the youth
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: the day he fled his community home and assaulted the victim,
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: and he wasn't under any detention order at the time. Well,
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: he's since been found unfit to actually stand trial and
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: may be held indefinitely in a secure facility.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: And how's your weather?
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: Mostly cloudy with possible mourning drizzle, getting fine this afternoon
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: and as per Wellington's strong and gusty northeries easying late afternoon.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Diviza, I think you never read to mart who joins
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: me from walking from morning teen, Good morning?
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Why we were?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Are we talking as a water park up they're going
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: to open again or what?
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: Well, look, there's lots of good things happening there for them.
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: But look, I'll just start with the most exciting breaking
• 23:58
  Speaker 12: news is that the Why We're the community set to
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: benefit this is from a forty five million dollar water
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: care project. Now it's going to build a new wastewater
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: pump station next to the current Why We wastewater treatment plant,
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: and also a four point five kilometer pipeline. This will
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: connect it to the Hatfield's beach pump station and that
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: current plant will be decommissioned once all this work is done.
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: And yes, you're quite right, Andrew, because a couple of
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: weeks ago it was announced that a fifteen million dollar
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: revamp of the Whywha Pool, so you know it's all
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: in conjunction with.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: That, it's all happening. Good on you for getting excited
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: about a watercare project. See only one now speaking of
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: water or not? Has the weather no water in sight?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Fine?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Fine?
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: Oh my goodness. Sweltering temperatures like we had yesterday and
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: in the weekend and another high twenty eight here in Auckland,
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: And I.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Thank you Neva reta man who speaking actually of the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: north of the Aukward region. We're talking up to around
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Rodney and heading towards north End. If you're out on
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: a boat over the course of the weekend, you might
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: have seen a rocket go cruising past on the back
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: of a barge. And not a little rocket either. This
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: is a rocket knows, that is as big as a tugboat.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: And what that was was Rocket Lab's neutron rocket nose
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: being transported from the manufacturing facility at Walkworth and heading
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: eventually down to the Mahia Peninsula to eventually go to
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Mars and all that sort of thing. It's the biggest
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: rocket they've ever made. It's a reusable medium lift rocket
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and it was built and walk with and you know
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: where they built it and walk with at Russell Coot's
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: old factory for the sale. GP Rocket Lab leased it
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, kept fifty people on it
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: and said you make great boats, can you make a
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: rocket And they made of course, we could make a rocket.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: So they made a rocket and then they shipped it
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: down through the Hodaki Golf Can you believe it? That's
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: New Zealanders doing great stuff. And I love that story.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And it is sixteen to six and we're off to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: the UK with Gavin Gray next here on News.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: TALKSB International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: We got Matthew Hayg on the Costa interview and few
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: moment's time is now thirteen minutes to six to the UK.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: We go Gavin Greg Good morning to you.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Good morning Andrew.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: So some bloke's been spraying pepper spray all over people
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that he.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: Throw, Yes, twenty one injured in total, five of those
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: needed hospital treatment. But the chaos as the car park.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: This was at the car park two Terminal three at
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: London's Heater Airport. The car park was pretty much in
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: lockdown for a couple of hours and that meant people
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: were hanging around trying to get their cars basically having
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: gone on holiday, so pretty miserable for them. And now
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: police have been quick to say this was not terrorist
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: or terrorists related. They say it was not a protest. Instead,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: it looked like a group of people who knew each
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: other got involved in an argument. That argument escalated and
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: then that resulted in its alleged somebody using something like
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: pepper spray to spray the beaver that they didn't like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: but ultimately others got caught up in it. Social media
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: footage I've seen shows large armed police response, fire engines
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: and off searching a handcuffed individual's incidentally more suspects of
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: being searched for one person has been arrested. But quite
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: extraordinary experience and also tremendous knock on as I said,
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: for those people who are at Heathrow today.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And speaking of bonkers whippens, some people have been throwing
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: custard and apple crumble at the Crown Jewels.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: Yes, thankfully the Crown Jewels are not harmed or damaged
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: in any way. They are of course behind strong glass.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: This in the Tower of London, no less. But this
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: is a new group, new, I think to most people,
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: called take Back Power. They appear to be an offshoot
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: of Just Stop Oil, which of course we do know
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: about and have heard about. They say there are a
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: new nonviolent civil resistance group. They want to effectively have
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: a permanent citizens Assembly or House of the People, with
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: the power to tax extreme wealth and fix Britain anyway,
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: Andrew Moore of that later, because the four people have
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: been arrested, they use custom and apple crumble to throw
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: at the Crown Jaws behind glass. Of course they are
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: just priceless, so plenty of concern that they might have damaged,
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: but yeah, permanently guard stationed in and around the room
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: and thankfully no particular damage. Nevertheless, it's suggested this could
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: be the first in several stunts that this group carry out.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Apparently on Wednesday they left manure under the Christmas tree
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: of one of London's top hotels.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: That's beyond the Pale and I thank you Gavin Gray
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: from the UK. Meanwhile, look, he was wondering over the weekend,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: what's happening with Gaza. Apparently Benjamin Yetnia, who says the
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: first phase of the Gaza seas far as close to finishing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: We had the cease fire announced on October the tenth.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Since then, Hamas has released the last twenty living Israeli
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: hostages in exchange for two thousand Palestinian detainees. It's handed
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: over all but one of the twenty eight bodies of
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: the hostages. Israeli forces have withdrawn to a ceasefire line.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: They're now on control. The fifty eight percent of the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Gaza strip people are still dying though during the ceasefire,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Israelis killed three hundred and sixty Palestinians, including seventy kids.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Three Israeli sold just have been killed in Hamas attacks
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: over the same period. So what's next, Well, apparently Hamas
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: is supposed to disarm, Israeli troops are supposed to withdraw further,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and then we get this board of peace of world
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: leaders to oversee a new Palestine. But you know, it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: all pretty fragile, and I think what's next is Hamas
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: must now disarm or the whole thing is for nount.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Zibby.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Well it's ten to six. The mc skimmings saga continues.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Andrew Costa has made his explosive claims in that interview
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: with Jack Taime on Q and A. He said the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Chris Hipkins and Mark Mitchell both new aspects of the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: case before it became public, which of course they deny.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Chris hap Con said last week quote, nothing was ever
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: raised about any of this during my time as Police
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Minister or Prime Minister, or during the vedding process for
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the Deputy commissioner role.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: I don't know what he means when he says none
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: of this, but I told him that Van told me
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: that he had an affair that was with a much
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: younger woman that went badly wrong, and that email allocations
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: were now flying as a result of it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Can you prove it?
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: No?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: No, so joining us now as lawyer and former cort
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Matthew Hey, go on to to you, Matthew morning.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: Andrew.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, he said, he said, situation now, no one
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: has proof.
• 30:16
  Speaker 13: Well it's not only he said he said it, he
• 30:18
  Speaker 13: said in five other people said something different.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Well, what do you make of that?
• 30:23
  Speaker 13: Well, it's sad. I think that we have the former
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: police commissioner differing on that this is not a different
• 30:30
  Speaker 13: version or mischaracterization of events. He says he told him.
• 30:34
  Speaker 13: They say he did not when they say they Chris Sipkins,
• 30:37
  Speaker 13: Marke Mitchell, Deputy Public Service Commissioner, hit A. Bag Itt
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: and another senior police officer all differ with cost on
• 30:44
  Speaker 13: very key and important points. And the IPCA preferred their
• 30:48
  Speaker 13: version of events over costs, which again is a sad
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: thing to happen when we're talking about any police officer,
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: let alone the police commissioner.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: But what did he say? I mean, who knows what
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: he says. He might have just said misgivings having an
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: affair might have gone right over Hipkins Mitchell's heads. What
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: do you think the ministers knew, if anything?
• 31:07
  Speaker 13: In my opinion, they either knew nothing or as you said,
• 31:10
  Speaker 13: they were told informally that Mick Swimming had in a
• 31:14
  Speaker 13: fear some time prior and it had ended badly ords
• 31:17
  Speaker 13: to that effect. But that's not the point. The point
• 31:19
  Speaker 13: was that ms Z had made serious allegations of criminal
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: offending against a step Totory, Theopeter Commissioner, and it doesn't
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: appear that even Costa says that he told those key.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: People that was this interview a good idea for Costa.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I know he's proud of his name. He believes he
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: did nothing wrong. But was this a good idea?
• 31:38
  Speaker 13: I don't think so. I don't know why he did it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 13: He apologized the IPSA report was comprehensive. All he's achieved
• 31:45
  Speaker 13: by giving this interview is to, again, I guess, relictigate
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: publicly what he told the IPCA and what the IPSA
• 31:52
  Speaker 13: has already dismissed and preferred other people's versions over his own.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: It shows you that the top of our public service
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: is a nest of vipers, doesn't it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 13: I think it shows that this case Costa was incredibly sloppy,
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  Speaker 13: and I think that continues in some aspects. I don't
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  Speaker 13: know what he's thinking of giving this interview.
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  Speaker 3: Good stuff, Matthew Hagu, and I thank you for your
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  Speaker 3: time today. Matthew Hague a former police officer now a lawyer,
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  Speaker 3: and it is seven to six. More on this with
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  Speaker 3: Heather and Heather's with me next.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be so it takes three from Andy look costs
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  Speaker 3: as a cop, what's rule number one? Evidence? He has
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  Speaker 3: none something as important as Mick skimming, and he has
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  Speaker 3: a couple of casual chats and doesn't keep any notes.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's a very fair point as well,
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  Speaker 3: and that I think was made by Matthew haigu he
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  Speaker 3: Loo Heather.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair to him.
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  Speaker 12: Jeez, I don't want to be fair to Andrew Costa,
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  Speaker 12: but to be fair to him in Good Morning dickens
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  Speaker 12: to be fair to him.
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  Speaker 5: He thought it was enoughing.
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  Speaker 3: So it's probably why there we go, There we go.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to be trick? I want to trigger you.
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  Speaker 3: Let's trigger hither. Let's play a little bit of Just
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  Speaker 3: Sinda with Graham Norton talking about being a hobbit. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I should play that. I'll tell you what. I'll play that.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 14: Half of New Zealand audition and half of New Zealand
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  Speaker 14: starred except for me. All was the That's what I
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  Speaker 14: told myself. I auditioned to be an extra as a
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  Speaker 14: hobbit because I lived I grew up quite close to hobbit.
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  Speaker 3: All the film, and then she bollocked on about stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and then she said one of the conditions was that
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  Speaker 3: she was supposed to be able to joust, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what the Hobbit was asking for. And as Graham rightly
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  Speaker 3: pointed out, there's no jousting in the Hobbit. And I
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  Speaker 3: sat there thinking, oh, just Cinda, have you just actually
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  Speaker 3: stretched the truth a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I just thought that she's very good at riffing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so much more generous than you are. Well under,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not because I went jos. There's no jousting. You
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  Speaker 3: don't have to jout. I never saw that.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, you know, she's annoying to because we had
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  Speaker 12: to live through it.
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  Speaker 5: But she's very good at what she does, and she
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  Speaker 5: puts an incredible performance, right, and she smiles, and Kate
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  Speaker 5: Winslet loves her, of course she does.
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  Speaker 3: And you're on the Breakfast Show and I have to
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  Speaker 3: go so yep now, of course obviously more on Costa
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  Speaker 3: and a whole lot more with Heather Duper. See Ellen Next.
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