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Johnny Pemberton Returns to Disobey Bridger Again · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself
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  Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,
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  Speaker 1: your presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm pretcher winnegar. What's
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: going on? Ellis is not here today. Ellis is in Spain.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: Elie will be there in Spain. They've lied to me before,
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: so God knows where they really are, probably laying low somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they'll be back. Elis is not here.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: We're in the studio. Very little happening for me because
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: the last like six days I finally started watching I
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  Speaker 2: gave in too Love is Blind. Love is Blind, Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's kind of cut me off from talking
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  Speaker 2: to other people. And by the time this episode releases,
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  Speaker 2: culture will have fully moved on to some other piece
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  Speaker 2: of art. So it's a show about a great group
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  Speaker 2: of guys and a great group of gals, all of
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  Speaker 2: their heads on straight. That's basically the show. Is there
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  Speaker 2: anything else that's going on? Do I have any business?
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, no no. I mean that's truly. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I've shut down conversation after conversation the last three days
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  Speaker 2: with people who haven't watched Love is Blind, and then
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  Speaker 2: I just have nothing left to say. Nothing's really gone
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  Speaker 2: bad yet today, So it's just a matter of time.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: And I should probably mention that the Patreon exists. Have
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned it lately? I probably have. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: You need to be reminded patreon dot com slash. I
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  Speaker 2: said no gifts, bonus episodes, recipes, pet photos. I mean
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  Speaker 2: those are all those are three things, and there's probably
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  Speaker 2: at least four things on the Patreon. So go there.
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  Speaker 2: And is there any actual business? I don't think so
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  Speaker 2: Love is Blind. Ohio, I love today's guest. He's back.
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  Speaker 2: It's Johnny Pemberton. Johnny, welcome back to I said no gifts.
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  Speaker 3: Let me get your McDonald's order. Okay, let me soothe
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  Speaker 3: you with McDonald's order. Please. Ten piece buffalo, ten ten
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  Speaker 3: piece buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: Huh you watched it.
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  Speaker 3: I watched that. My wife watches that show, and she
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  Speaker 3: showed me, She's like, you have to see this. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's one of them. But the biggest, like pieces
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  Speaker 3: of like burning trash, I've ever seen as far as like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: just that guy that both just the worst people.
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  Speaker 2: How much of that guy were you exposed to?
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  Speaker 3: Just his conversation with the family at dinner.
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  Speaker 2: The dinner is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 3: He's like a ballet of bullshit. The way he's like,
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  Speaker 3: you have I wasn't talking to my friend Josh last
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  Speaker 3: night about it. It's like we have to do something
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  Speaker 3: that's like aping this right, because the way he speaks
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  Speaker 3: is so just a three years Actually was I picked up.
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  Speaker 3: I was doing some finance actually Arizona. Yes, was correct,
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  Speaker 3: because California was something we've been interested in. Soccer has
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  Speaker 3: been a priority for me, and that's something that I
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  Speaker 3: feel that's a good thing because finance is always Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going back to that, but it wasn't a job
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  Speaker 3: per se. It's more of a career interested.
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  Speaker 2: Tie In's like this can never stops talking like that
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  Speaker 2: because he's so fully he's a drifter. He is. He
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  Speaker 2: you can't pin him down where he was living, what
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  Speaker 2: he was doing at any time. There's something going on,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's something going on. Imagine talking to a friend
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  Speaker 2: in that way, like and trying to form a relationship.
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  Speaker 3: You can't. It is just alarm bells going off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was told last night someone sent me a
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  Speaker 2: video from one of his former co workers he was
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  Speaker 2: living when he got cast on that show. He was
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  Speaker 2: living in Scottsdale, Yes, and working for like a tech
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  Speaker 2: sales company and not doing a good job apparently. So
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  Speaker 2: and then he keeps going back to soccer, which apparently
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  Speaker 2: was like fourteen years ago.
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  Speaker 3: What is does anyone ever had a job in soccer?
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  Speaker 3: Like any American ever had a what Ted Lasso is
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  Speaker 3: the only person to ever have a job right in America?
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  Speaker 2: Your job is soccer coach? Well, then that's volunteer work. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: unless you're literally Ted Lesson.
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  Speaker 3: You're cutting oranges, Bro, you're cutting oranges.
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  Speaker 2: You're passing out jukes boxes.
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  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous soccer soccer as career.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing that was a big red flag. Oh
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  Speaker 2: you haven't seen all of it, but was the confidence
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  Speaker 2: in saying, well, we'll live in either Arizona or Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the only two options.
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  Speaker 3: Those are just places that they agreed that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: say check a box. Is that you know that reality
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  Speaker 3: where it's like they get the thing wrong constantly, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: well that really that moved our box, and so we're
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be barking up a ten foot
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  Speaker 3: pole here because when the ship rises, our waters are
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  Speaker 3: going to be it's so.
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  Speaker 2: Wid And then the father in that situation is also
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  Speaker 2: just like kind of an evil chrone. He looks uh
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  Speaker 2: to me, he looked, did you ever see Witches with
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  Speaker 2: Angelica Houston?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think your souls point in the movie
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  Speaker 3: when the.
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  Speaker 2: Witches, who are all kind of beautiful women remove their
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  Speaker 2: mask and wigs and become kind of the nasty goblin.
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  Speaker 2: That's and then his like the father's approval when the
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  Speaker 2: son said that he would have voted for Trump, I
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  Speaker 2: mean everything about Oh.
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  Speaker 3: My god, that part was like what the who are
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  Speaker 3: these pieces of trash?
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  Speaker 2: I know. That's the other thing about the show is
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  Speaker 2: you're watching kind of like thirty year olds who seem
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  Speaker 2: like they are like from the city, like the city.
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  Speaker 2: They start revealing what they are. Oh interesting, every one
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  Speaker 2: of you is a mega psycho. But you know, as
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  Speaker 2: I've said, this episode comes out in like four weeks
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  Speaker 2: and people will be watching Love is Blind nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, will they will have moved on from that that guy.
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  Speaker 2: If that guy, but he'll probably have committed some sort
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  Speaker 2: of something.
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  Speaker 3: Soccer crimes, crimes against soccer humanity.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you watched one episode of that and you
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  Speaker 2: were just telling me you were watching some horrible movies
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched Pacific Heights with Melanie Griffith and Matthew Modine.
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  Speaker 2: What's the general story of this movie? What's the thrill
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  Speaker 2: element of my?
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  Speaker 3: Young couple I'm married buys a house in the Pacific Heights,
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco. They cannot afford, but it has spaces to
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  Speaker 3: rent out so they can make some money, oh interest,
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  Speaker 3: to pay off their mortgage. They cannot afford this house,
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  Speaker 3: but they fix it up and they get a bad tenant.
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  Speaker 3: And this bad tenant is Michael Keaton and he is
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  Speaker 3: like abusing the laws. Of course, Matthew Matthew Modine can't
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  Speaker 3: be he can't be chill and he does some stuff
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  Speaker 3: that because that goes against tenant law. And Laurie metcalf
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  Speaker 3: is in it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He's my favorite person a lot unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen her twice in public and she's one of
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  Speaker 3: the few people I'm like, I don't, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I would do around her. I
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  Speaker 2: mean she's scary, she's like an intimidating person. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: she's like endlessly talented.
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  Speaker 3: Just I think she's one of the most talented actors
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  Speaker 3: too in the last one hundred years.
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  Speaker 2: Did you find it getting on?
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  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? That shit is? I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in Rochester, Minnesota. All my it's what the
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  Speaker 3: male clinic is, right, pretty much everyone I knew was
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  Speaker 3: a doctor, sure, Like I know.
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  Speaker 2: That, and I know that so well, right, that whole
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  Speaker 2: like kind of probably kind of social scene, the.
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  Speaker 3: Social scene and just the type of person who is
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  Speaker 3: successful in medicine, Like the character she plays is I
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  Speaker 3: knew three of that woman.
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  Speaker 2: Were really jealous. Yeah, I've been shocked by how many
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  Speaker 2: people aren't aware of even getting on any idea of
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  Speaker 2: it at all. It's so good. It's one of the
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  Speaker 2: funniest shows I've.
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  Speaker 3: Ever Seenriguez just stunning, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's like very sweet and beautiful, old.
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  Speaker 3: Sweet and you see, Nash is so good. Everyone in
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  Speaker 3: the show is like playing against type and they're also great.
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  Speaker 3: It's just kind of like, I mean, yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a classic case of something it's so great that it
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't have enough. It's not it's not like scandalous,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like it like it's.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't have some sort of thing that can be
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  Speaker 2: thrown to general people.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have like the lusty vibe of like a
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  Speaker 3: white lotus type thing.
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  Speaker 2: So there's no pr Yeah, and I can imagine somebody
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  Speaker 2: like glimpsing at a trailer of that and being like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's like a bleak hospital.
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  Speaker 3: And it's bleak as ship.
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  Speaker 2: But you watch it and it's like very funny.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so funny because it's based on
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  Speaker 3: a British show, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, right, I never saw the British version. I really like.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's Vicky Pepperdiners who created that pepper dye.
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  Speaker 2: She and Julia Davis Davis and Vicky Pets the funniest
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  Speaker 2: people alive as well. I should watch the British one
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  Speaker 2: of them. But wait, so Laura is in Pacific Heights.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it just a little little bit?
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  Speaker 2: And Michael Keaton's just kind of a bad egg.
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  Speaker 3: He probably shot five days on that. He's like a
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  Speaker 3: bad guy. He's like twiddling a razor blade, like just
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  Speaker 3: the most. It is a piece of crap movie. It
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  Speaker 3: is a crap movie. They all know it. Like it's
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  Speaker 3: one of those things where you wonder how they felt
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  Speaker 3: at their premiere kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Right where they're all like they know they can't really
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  Speaker 2: say it to each other, yeah, but they want each
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  Speaker 2: other to know that. They know it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: They got to fulfill the contract of promotion.
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  Speaker 2: But it's his goal in the movie.
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  Speaker 3: Is it like a it's he's he's like a trust
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  Speaker 3: fund crazy guy. I mean, you gotta just see it.
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  Speaker 3: He's a trust fund guy whose family got him to
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  Speaker 3: go away and he's got money. So he says he's
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  Speaker 3: scamming people doing like a rent scam thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, like I'm rich.
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  Speaker 3: He has a Porsche, so people are, oh, he's got
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  Speaker 3: a Porsche. He's like, oh, my business is actually a
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  Speaker 3: private trust. I will how about I wire you the
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: first six months they're like, oh oh great, yes, great, yes.
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  Speaker 2: This is kind of like Alex from Love is Blind.
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  Speaker 2: Similar time.
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  Speaker 3: It definitely is.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely that he's probably run a similar scheme.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a successful version of Alex from Love is Blind.
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  Speaker 2: When was the last time you had a roommate, does
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  Speaker 2: my spouse not count? Yeah, pre spouse.
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  Speaker 3: Pre spouse was probably, uh maybe twelve thirteen, maybe fourteen years.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever had like a bad roommate situation?
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  Speaker 3: I actually never have. No, I've only had really great roommates.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely. Yeah, that's really I feel like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I got out of the roommate game pretty quickly. So,
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  Speaker 2: but the idea of like having to live with somebody
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  Speaker 2: that I have a hard time living with someone I
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  Speaker 2: really love.
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  Speaker 3: It is some people, really do? I think I've never
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  Speaker 3: lived alone.
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  Speaker 2: You've never lived alone except for some.
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  Speaker 3: Times I've been on location, like for like maybe you
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  Speaker 3: know six months.
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  Speaker 2: Right, do you? When you're living alone? How does that feel?
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  Speaker 2: Is it unsettling for you? No?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and no, I kind of love it, okay. But
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  Speaker 3: also it's that thing where I just like around people
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  Speaker 3: a lot. Sure, you know, I really enjoy it. I
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  Speaker 3: like having a space, like having like a room, sure,
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  Speaker 3: an office or place I can retreat to my place. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: place I can like, you know, be me, place I
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  Speaker 3: can be me. But also I do like I like
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  Speaker 3: having the camaraderie or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like you're somebody who also makes
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  Speaker 2: really good use of their time. I feel like you
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: find hobbies and you throw yourself into them. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I feel like you have a very healthy
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  Speaker 2: way of being alive.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what's that when they say, uh, perception is everything,
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  Speaker 3: So it's all just uh.
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  Speaker 2: Scam, I guess sort of.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I spent the entire day yesterday breaking my
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  Speaker 3: back repaving the front walkway, and like that's why.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like that's amazing to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just because it's like I needed to
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  Speaker 3: do that because I just finished I just finished shooting
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  Speaker 3: my first comedy special, oh right, right, And it was
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  Speaker 3: the most work I've ever done in my entire life,
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  Speaker 3: just about because it's not like a special special. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not like staying with a microphone. It's like it's like
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  Speaker 3: a one man show. I have all these these cues
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  Speaker 3: and sound cues and like music things and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's so utterly complicated, and I you know, I built
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  Speaker 3: my own prison in that sense, right, So it was
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  Speaker 3: just so much work coming off of that. I always
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  Speaker 3: have that thing where you know, I almost get sick.
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  Speaker 3: I did this time, luckily, but I just don't know
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  Speaker 3: what to do with myself. I go, I'm just mad
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  Speaker 3: with inactivity.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and that sort of activity where it's a very
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  Speaker 2: clear directive. You've like once you get it started, you
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  Speaker 2: basically know what you're doing the entire time. There are
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  Speaker 2: no curve balls, and you.
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  Speaker 3: Can't work on it enough. There's no amount that is
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  Speaker 3: you'll never be like, oh I did it all. Because
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  Speaker 3: there's even some jokes I fucked up and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: forgot there's stuff I forgot to say. But it's fine, sure,
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  Speaker 3: because everything. Sure, it's wonderful, it's outstanding. It's so good,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's so I'm so happy with that. I can't
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  Speaker 3: believe it. But it's still in those things where it's
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: like like the drop off, you know, the continental shelf
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing. Oh yeah, of course, yeah, it's why
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the uh I'm in that place now where
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  Speaker 3: it's super deep. I'm like, what do I do?
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  Speaker 2: But then you can pave? How does that even work?
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  Speaker 2: In front of your house? You've got little pavers.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: I have bricks, but a bunch of them were broken
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: and they're a weird size because they're like legacy bricks.
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  Speaker 3: Legacy brick it's a brick that doesn't exist now because
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: now home deep ow and lows they have they have
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  Speaker 3: two sizes and everything you know and everything is like
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  Speaker 3: everything's been winnowed down to the most generic version of
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: the thing. And if you want something, yeah, one character,
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: you have to go to like a specialty store in
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Pasadena and talk to a guy who's like surly. But
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  Speaker 3: if you and so, there's no I'm not gonna find
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  Speaker 3: the bricks. So I decided to cut some bricks I have.
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  Speaker 3: It were longer, and I bought a chisel. Doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: Even my neighbor who's an engineer, tried. It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: So I had to get a special masonry saw blade
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  Speaker 3: to cut them. Worked like a dream with a fucking dream.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: But then I got to set them in by the
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  Speaker 3: masonry sand, get the fucking polymetric sand to fill in
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  Speaker 3: the cracks ground All.
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  Speaker 2: This, Chris is also are you how are you teaching
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  Speaker 2: yourself to do this? This is what I'm always so
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  Speaker 2: curious with you. Where I'm like, where is the information
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  Speaker 2: coming from before you know how to do it? Because
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  Speaker 2: oh you are.
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  Speaker 3: Watching blond that once. It's like basically this thing where
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: we have all the information that's ever existed just in
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  Speaker 3: this little you know, right controlled by a massive, you know,
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  Speaker 3: semi governmental entity.
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  Speaker 2: But you can kind of learn to lay bricks all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of things like that.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing can't be that hard.
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  Speaker 2: So are you done laying off the bricks?
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  Speaker 3: Now? Yeah? I did it, and it was only four bricks.
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  Speaker 3: I was replacing, oh four, but I had to regrout
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  Speaker 3: it all. So I did that all one day.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I'm basically asking this because I'm like, I'm trying
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: to gather information from my own yard. Yeah, because my
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: whole lawn in the backyard is dead. Because if our
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: new dog has peed all over, it's good. It's placing
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  Speaker 2: the lawn with clover. I think maybe just with uh,
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  Speaker 2: Saint Augustine rock or something else.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I just said that too. Yesterday you did,
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  Speaker 3: so what I have this new technique. So what you
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  Speaker 3: do because clover, we try to clover didn't fucking work, right,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why. I think because the trees were
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: just too much canopy, so its shading it out too much.
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  Speaker 3: You take a bunch of just like, get the cheapest
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: bags of top soil, spread that out. Then you buy
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: bags of pebble like like, uh, you know, the like
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  Speaker 3: little pebbles, right, Yeah, they come in like a bag
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  Speaker 3: of like forty fifty pounds bags. You put the dirt
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  Speaker 3: down and you spread that pebble out, and what does
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  Speaker 3: it creates sort of like a like a surface you
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: can walk on when it's wet and and maybe something
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  Speaker 3: will grow there. If it does, it does okay, But
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  Speaker 3: it's also a nice surface that's not like dirty because
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: you have enough pebble to be I think that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I needed this because playing fetch with her
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: in the backyard is also with muddy or grass. It's
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: a total design for time all the way. So gravel,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: this is probably the wave of the future. All these
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: other groundcover things. I'm like, I guess if you're not
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: walking on them or I don't know, I don't believe
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that they're actually going to grow in my yard, somebody
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: else could pull it on. Clover's go.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: But you got to fence off the area for like
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: three weeks. I don't have that time exactly, And the
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: dog needs to do something.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's a usable space that has to be used
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: every single multiple times a day. So what am I
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: supposed to do?
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: In the meantime exactly, we had a little strip, a
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: little poop.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: And pistrkay right, and that you know my dog whould
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: go in the neighborhood. Well, we take her on. She's
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: very polite in that way, and of course I take
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: bags with me every time. But she refuses to use
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the neighborhood as a toilet. I don't know why. So
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: that's causing me a decent amount of trouble.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but does both?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Does both? I would like to get to the point
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: where we're doing both, kind of a hybrid situation, because
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: the walks right now are purely for exercise and smelling.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I would like to throw in using the toilet. I
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: don't know how to get her.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: To that point, like a scared dog.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Apparently when we sent her on these pack walks once
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: a week and she does it then, so I don't understand.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: But that's in Griffith Park, so maybe she's feeling more
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: in nature or whatever. Are you walking your dog out
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: in like for long walks or is.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: It we day? I do about twenty minute walk because
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: she demands it. She won't leave me alone. She's a
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: wonderful dog. We got her about. She's almost two years old, right,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: we got her about, you know, just under a year.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: We love her. She's super sweet.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: She's smaller big dogs.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: She's fifty five pounds.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, nice small yeah right right, our medium size.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's great, but she's also just so annoying because
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: she's like the cutest thing in the world. She's like
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: a model. She's honestly like a fucking model.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Like, what sort of dog is she? She's a golden
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, gorgeous, and she.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Just is one of those dogs where she knows she
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: sits pretty. She's like knows. I don't know how she knows,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: but somehow this dog knows that, like, oh she looks
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: good and she's gonna get what she wants. How old
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: is she she's almost two years old?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, horrible. Yeah, our dog is gorgeous as well.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: But she doesn't know how to sit. She doesn't know
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: how to kind of every sitting position is very awkward looking.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: She doesn't quite know where her body is in space,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and she's very I mean, she stopped barking at strangers,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: which is nice.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: But she's like almost seventy five pounds, so when she
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: starts barking and jumping at things. You feel bad.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a dog like that before this, and
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: she was even bigger, and it's like, you know, you
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: have a big dog. It's that thing where you just
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: can't you know. There's just a different thing between a
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: big dog and a small dog. They can do the
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: same activity, but one is acceptable.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Ones like people are scared on like this as a monster.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: This person's irresponsible with their dog ownership. Did you train
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: your own dog or did you bring somebody into the situation?
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: We did both. My wife trained her mostly and then
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: we took her to a class really close by to
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: our house. This lady who's very very good at training.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: She was like the star of the class too. She
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: had training. Oh right, she came in kind as she
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: came in as a little ringer. So we trained her.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: But she needs to get trained again. I think it's
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: time for round two.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Our I think the only thing we need to train
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: our dog is to stop barking at five thirty am.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: That's a struggle. Early, it's a tough thing. I've had to, Like,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I've started putting in earplugs and then having to put
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: on noise canceling headphones while I'm sleeping.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Does she sleep in the same room?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: As you know, she's great trained once she's only a
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: year old, so I think once she gets a little older,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: she'll start sleeping in the same bed. But right now,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it's like for sona territory of waking up in her
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: pe you know, could.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Be yeah, gosh, that's rough.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Where's your dog sleeping?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: She s in the crate in our bedroom?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, she does wake up.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: At you know, earlier than I want to get out.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, the cratey because our dog's so big.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: The crate is huge, so it's like to put in
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the bedroom would feel crazy.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: We are crazy. We have we have no space.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: H you have no space? Okay, see that's what we
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: would be dealing with, and I just refuse. I don't know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: You're right, that's funny that it's loud enough to oh
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: she barks.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: She's an extremely loud bark because she's a huge dog.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: So and she's relentless, and there's no need for it
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: because like you know, she doesn't she's also a large
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: dug so she doesn't really necessarily need to go to
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the bathroom at that time. She's eaten like probably five
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: hours prior to this. There's no element of it where
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: it's like she's in physical need, but she's just ready
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to get up and start doing things.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Have you tried not letting her out?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we've started doing, where like we you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: we just let her bark as long as possible until
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: she stops. But that could be a lot. You feel
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: terrible first of all, and secondly all it's very annoying.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So there's a kind of a two pronged approach by
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: her to get out of the crate. But I think
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: we're getting to a point that we're at least able
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to be like we're just not going to do this
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: because then she knows and then she's in control of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the house. I don't know.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I saw some trainers say whatever you do with your dog,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: that's the training them. So it doesn't matter whatever you Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: whatever habitual activity you do, that is training, right, whether
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: you think you're training them, whether you're actively training them,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: they are being trained. So whatever you do, like, I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: really trained our dog to get to walk at like
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: ten am right, not because I want to, because she
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: she asked me enough.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And enough and so she gets it. This is me
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: with giving the dog in an ice cube. Every time
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I use the ice cream cube machine, they know she
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: hears the noise it's time.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: For an ice It takes like three repetitions in they're
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: in yes to give.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: An ice cube. Yeah, yes, Sometimes it's like one or
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: two times, and that's just what they are for the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: rest of their life.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: These dogs that have to have their food microwaved. No,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: there's dogs that like get habituated to that, and they
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: don't actually microwave the food. They just turn the microwave
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: on for like five seconds and then take it out
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: and act like the dogs are satisfied.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: How do you get caught in that trap?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's it just happens accidentally once or twice, right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the dog refuses to eat until that you do it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Then when you do it, you're teaching them to expect it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Once you do it like five or ten times, it's over.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Our our old dog, Eaty would every time we
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: would go to get a drink of water, she would
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: go to her dish and get water. She just learned
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Little computers, there are little computers. They're smarter
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: than you think they are. And also dumber than you think,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: like they're just programmable creature.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so impressionable.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very sweet. Well, I think there's something else
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: we should talk about. You were on the podcast I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: think a couple of years ago at this point.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit a while.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, horrifying and we had a wonderful time. You did
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: bring a gift, which was unfortunate.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I know, I just can't help myself.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Hand trucking today. Again, I was raised it and you're
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: kind of programmed in a way. You brought a gift.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Should we open it here on the podcast? It's beautifully wrapped.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It's beautifully wrapped.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I kind of knew immediately that's a gift for me.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It's wrapped in this is this a track jackets? A
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: track jacket beautiful, kind of a Kelly Green.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, haven't even worn it yet.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Oh you haven't worn it yet.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I just gonna wear it today. But it's just so hot.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I want to look at it before I see the gift.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: This is a great tracket.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And when I picked it up at an vntage store,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: of course, very of course, of course, of course I
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: didn't just buy and I got it an a vntage store.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It is a nice vintage.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: In my travels. During one of my many travels I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: travel for work. You see, when I travel for work,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I tend to shop a little bit. And my off time,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: well i'm not filming on camera, I do a bit
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: of shopping at local vintage stores. That's where I precare.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I have a funky little boutique staffed by a peculiar
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: young man.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: What where was this purchase?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: In Winnipeg, Canada?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So internationally?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Of course, of course I tend to be traveling internationally.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: As I do have a passport, I get to use
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: it quite quite quite often.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, well let me hand this back to you. Oh
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: my god, you're really like filling out my garage.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: You know I got him.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: No one else is gonna Last time you brought me
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: a hand truck, I did.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: The hand truck is such a good hand truck.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It's an excellent hand truck, and you've brought me. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: actually have to look at this to even te oh,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: it's a folding saw. This is really weapon levels, so
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: it's more for tree trimming.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's not really a weapon.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: It's not really a blade, but it feels like you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: could whip it open, you know, like a switch blade.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You could try it, but Fixers makes it pretty safe. Oh,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I've got a button on there as a guard like
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a lock.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Oh should I open it?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: You should just slide that backing up.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: So it's not one of these like painful. No, No,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that's openness.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I think this is Danish, right, Fixers is Danish to
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: some sort of Scandinavian thing.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, look at that thing. I've never seen one. I've
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of tools.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: So they have to push the button down to open it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: But be careful.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was expecting it to just floil.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Now that could.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Possibly be that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: It's not an automatic knife. Those are actually illegal.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: That's gorgeous.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can trim a tree easily, trim a
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: little branch, you know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Well, this is something I need all the time in
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: my yard.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I figured.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I've been using something that is not the correct tool. Yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Like it's beyond a snipper. It's like a pretty powerful.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Lopper.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe a lopper is a handwinner or a cranker. It's
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: one where you almost have to use two hands to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: get two hands.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: That's wrong.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so it's like when I'm clipping things. Yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I don't even it must be too cut. What would
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you even cut?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: That would be a smaller thing like an inch or less.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Right, and probably more less organic things, probably like wire.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Or I shouldn't be using that for that, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: certainly either lopper or like a just a tremor. But
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that looks like a big a big diameter two or
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: three inch diameter. I'll cut easily through that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: How often are you trimming your trees?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm trimming. If I'm not, I'm out there
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: too much. It's like a like a rat, you know.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I'm just always out there, touching and moving and stuff.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Right, It's like kind of a constant.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a bad habit. It's almost like an O. C.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: D thing where if I'll be talking my neighbor and
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I'll be pulling weeds as we're.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Talking, which I think is very healthy.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: It is, but also when I think about it, it's
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: kind of disrespectful to be pulling weeds as you're talking.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: To someone, right, You're like not putting all of your
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: energy into But I feel like it just feels like
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: something that grounds the conversation in a way where you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you know, you're doing something with your hands. You have
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to be doing something with your hands when you're talking
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to people. Why not have it be a project?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: If I can get a good phone call going mm hmmm,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I'm unstoppable.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Oh while you're out in the garden. Yeah, oh, that's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: a great idea. That's like my thing because I this
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: is my big problem with talking on the phone is
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm wasting time right now. My body
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: is worthless. I should start rolling calls while doing yard work.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: It is the ultimate thing ever. I've been doing it
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: for so long, but something about it is just that
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: if you can at any kind of gardening right with
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: the on the phone.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Call, that sounds lovely because I do like talking to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: my friends on the phone, and I feel like this
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: is a because I'm I'm kind of running out of
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: energy to like see friends for dinner.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that weird? How that?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like nowadays that would be it's like a
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: big deal. Yeah we're gonna have dinner. Okay, Yeah, well,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: oh gosh, okay, we're gonna have we're gonna meet. Even
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I would lunch is more casual, but even then.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just right in the middle of the day,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and then it just ruins the day. Then the day
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: is just like on both sides, it's just what am
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I going to do then? Right? But a phone call
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: while doing something practical feels last night I was having
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I probably had a forty five minute call about love
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is Blind and did nothing with my time except for
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: talk about people I don't know marrying each other.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But that's kind of nice, I suppose. I mean, I
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: guess it depends. You could say that what I'm doing
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: is a little bit I don't know, not disrespectful, but
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: it's that thing where I'm like, I'm I'm doing something
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: else while doing that thing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not looking at your phone.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That to me is.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Like the rage that will go through me if I'm
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: trying to talk to somebody and they're instead of looking
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: at their phone, that feeling is horrible. But I feel
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: like if there's something that's repetitive, that just feels like
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: a thing that's just they're sure, do it, go for it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm in my backyard kind of. I eat
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: breakfast back there every day, and then it's become a
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: dream thing of where I just start doing things with
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the yard.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: What are you having for breakfast?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So boring? Just a protein bar and some coffee?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: A protein bar?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I'm I mean, I'm moving now. Okay, I've been doing.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: This is my breakfast for the past like maybe six months.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I do like like granola, a little bit of like
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: high fiber cereal, a couple like maybe four or five
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: heaping tablespoons of no sugar plane full fat yogurt.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully sheep right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Add some dried cranberries in there. Oh, add maybe like
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a pinch of salt, cinnamon, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: then I'm probably good there. Maybe a little bit of
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: water because it has the water down. But I want
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: to move into overnight. Oh, it's want to start making
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the own overnight oats.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I've tried in the past and they were a disaster.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: How is it a disaster?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: They? I don't think. I don't know if I put
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in the right ingredients or the right portions, but it
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: just ended up tasting like very bland mush.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: And I got a surprise for you. Wait, you're telling
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: me it tastes like bland mush.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I was expecting spice. Yeah, fireworks out of oatmeal.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: It tastes like bland mush No.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But you see these pictures on Instagram and it's like
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that is that looks like the best thing that's ever
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: been made, the berries, the peanut butter or whatever. And
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: then I make it myself.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's because you're not adding a bunch of unnecessary.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Sugar, right, I guess that's it. But I don't like
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: sweet things. You don't, I don't really care, especially in
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the morning. I would prefer it not to be too sweet.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I okay, yeah, So but if you were to make
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: overnight oats, what would you put in yours?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's given me great, It's given me
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the best oats.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be some almond milk probably, maybe some old milk,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: just a little bit, not too much, right, I'm gonna
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: ground grind some cheese seeds because you can't have the
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: whole chia seeds, right. I'm not looking to evacuate, I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: looking to absorb the nutrients the chia seeds.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Right, because if you just eat a full chia seed,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it just flying through.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: That's just like a little like time traveler, right, it's
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: a little skate pod for the seed. I'm gonna do that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do some probably some granola, okay, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: probably like some some berries of some kind. Sure, and
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: definitely I'll top it off with some yogurt one upon serving,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: maybe some almond butter, maybe some peanut butter.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Right. See, the problem with all of this is you're
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: introducing a lot of choice, a lot of like having
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: to decide and me in the morning, especially like I
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: cannot operate.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I fold the opposite eliminates choice because I made it
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: the night before.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: But then the night before I'm panicking, really and I'm wondering,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: will I actually want to eat this tomorrow?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You don't want to eat it because I want to
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: eat it so bad.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, of course, I want to eat it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: In the morning, I might wake up in a different mood.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: See, I need something. I'm just like, I know I
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: won't enjoy it that much, but I feel like I.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Think we're just hitting the nail on the head here.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you're denying this. It sounds like
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the perfect thing.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe I just need to give it more of a show.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I tried this also with egg bites.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: You know, making you know, like the guitar buckstyle egg bite.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to just have like some egg in
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the morning, but I don't want to have to make
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. But then those were disgusting, Yeah, because
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you can't make that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: The eggs are.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Hard, Eggs are extremely If you fuck up an egg,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: then it's just revolting.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: And you got to you gotta do stuff.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, you absolutely have to do something like a cold breakfast.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I guess unless somebody else has made it
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: for me. Right, Like, I love like a breakfast at
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a diner.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Or something, but breakfasted dinner is too good.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I can't have that. Can you imagine making
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: all of those elements as well as a diner can
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: make them sick?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I'll be sick. If I have a breath that kind
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: of breakfast every day, I'll be sick.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It would take an hour and a half to prepare
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the breakfast.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Eat like, oh, eat so much bacon and eggs and toast.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Christ on a crutch. You ever had that expression crush?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Where did that come from?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Some some like Midwestern Catholic bet on a crutch. I
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: think it's like, oh, oh God, Jesus and marine Joseph
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Christ on a crutch. You can't have bacon every morning?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Oh God, that's too much.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Is the crutch just because of the alliteration?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe because yeah, I think it's just the illiteration.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: It's just the because we're not picturing I mean, like
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: now we're just imagining this biblical figure on a crutch,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Jesus on a crutch, poor Jesus, Jesus on a jumper,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Jesus on a Jesus.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Maria used to hear that a lot.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I bet you have a lot of those in the Midwest.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I mean a little bit.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's probably the birthplace of a lot
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: of that sort of phrase in the South too. Yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: the South has got a lot of wild sections. Yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: my boyfriend, I think it's kind of conjured a thing
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: talk the chicken off a bone, which feels like something
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that's good real, but I don't know that it's actually
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: is that southern? It feels Southern, right, he could talk
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the chicken off a bone. I feel like I've mentioned
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this that on this podcast before, and usually people will
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: be like, you know, actually, or tell you immediately or
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: diagnose you with some sort of illness, but no one
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: had heard of this, so but it feels like that
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: feels like it's been around since the beginning of time. Yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: talk the chicken off a boat.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: You could talk the chicken off a bomb. Sty a
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: wife from jam sty a wife from ham. You want
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: to cape your pockets full, don't talk to him. He
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: can talk the chicken off a bomb.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Your current breakfast is kind of like a dream
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: breakfast for me. Granola and yoga meat. Maybe that's my
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: thing is I just need to get some nice, plain yogurt.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I don't like a sweetened yogurt.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I cannot stand as sweeten yogurt.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: A sweet and slime essentially. Yeah, it's disgusting.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: You remember that part of Toddlers and Tierras from years ago,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the girl being like, E, I can smell the hairspry. Yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I just conjured that in my head when I went, eh,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: there's a little girl. They have a swong. This is
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: from fifteen years ago by race right. Little girl and
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: she's got a super thick Southern accent. But there's some
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: internet me that has it slowed down and she's talking
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: about hairspray. I can smell it right now. It's so nasty.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: That's a sweet and yogurt.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: For me, those little girls were old souls. Yeah, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: wonder where they are now.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: God, I don't want to know. That's of those things
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: where it's like it's either bad or worse.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: There's no way that that like went ended up in
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: medical school or better Jail. That's the new TLC show, Yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Catching Better Jail. They probably had something in that realm
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: TLC that anytime a TLC thing gets recommended to me,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I just think, where did this start from? What evil
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: person had this idea?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: God, we've fallen so far.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: History Channel, Oh, the History Channel TLC. Those things used
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to be kind of a and e oh my god,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: are you kid? Arts and Entertainment Bravo used to be
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: like the Opera Channel?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Was it really?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You think?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: So everything has just gone to the I mean, not
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: even the dogs.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Not even give me a break.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: No, this is just gone, like the not even the rats.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: What is it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: It's gone like those little pill bugs that eat stuff.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: It's gone to the roaches.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: A restaurant in my neighborhood recently got shut down for
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: rodents and place I had eaten that probably once every
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: six weeks at least, and that was a terrible feeling.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: But rodents are taking over La. There's a rat problem.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: No way, rats everywhere? I don't know, true according to.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Me, Okay, I wasn't sure that's what I was asking
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: because perception, you know.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But I've seen a lot of rats in the last
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: couple of years, way more than I have in the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: last you know, I've lived here for almost sixteen years.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: That makes sense though, because that's sort of like the
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: one of those things where that's an indicator species.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, that's that's right today. What are the other indicators?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I guess I can go the other direction too, where
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: an indicator species can be like a high end dog.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: When those start showing up in your neighborhood, it's gentrification
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: sort of thing.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: So it's the indicator species act is an actual term
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: that I used wrong.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, So what else could it mean? Then?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I think it's indicator species. I'm gonna say it wrong,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: but it has to do with something with like population decline,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: like in terms of like certain species show up when
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: they there's more of them.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't fuck, but it kind of like it feels
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: like you've used it in a proper ish way.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I have a good friend who's in a who's a biologist,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: so he probably said it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, I might use that,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: but they like probably in the correct sense. It's more
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: just to do with actual ecosystems, yeah, and how they
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: affect each other some.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: But we're hardcore in the Holocene now, right, I'm not sorry.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: The anthroposyne No, I'm not familiar.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: The anthroposcene is a term that I'm pretty sure. It's like,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: we're definitely in it now, okay, Like instead of the
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: whatever the previous era was, we're now in the anthroposyne,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: which means that we're in the era that is so
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: significantly in influenced by many that we are. It's a
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: different thing completely. It's considered a different uh you know
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: how there's like the Holocene and there's like.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: That there eras where like nature or animals also had
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: some level of impact on what we were going on.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Those are huge, massive long eras where this is one
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the this type of the the saber to tiger existed
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: in this era, right, So we're out of that a
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: right now. But now we're in this era called anthroposy,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: which means that humans have so significantly impacted their environment
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: that it's caused us to Scientists to definitively describe the
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: era as being different than the previous.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder that must have been in the last
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: hundred years.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I think it's pretty even more recently. And this is
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: not like a debate thing, and this is something where
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: like all all scientists agree that that this is very
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: much the case and so.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: And then I can't imagine what the next era could
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: even possibly be. We're going to be in this for
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: a while, right until we've were our own undoing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, until it's like just jellyfish, just jellyfish, and maybe
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: like god knows what else on the land.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Anthropos the anthroposy fast, I mean terrifying.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: It's terrifying, but it's also kind of that thing where
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: it's like, I take what's it called when you take
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: it makes something you feel good about? No, I can't
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: think of I can't think of any words today. But
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: you know, I feel like, well, we're all in this now.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It's it's unchangeable, right, We're just in this. We're in
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a different era because like this idea where people talk
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: about plants being invasive, right right, you know how there's
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the person you know sometimes it's me, But I pulled
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: back from that because everything we're surrounded by invasive species,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: surrounded by non natives. Yes, they're just proliferate everywhere. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: so it's kind of like this thing now where like
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I was arguing with someone about asthma, so someone is
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: saying that the jasmin's and bloom, now like, well, it's not.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Actually you're smelling something else unless you have some sort
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: of weird microclimate. You're not smelling jasmine right now, right,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: just smelling citrus bossoms, which smell incredible. You're smelling a
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: different thing that looks like Jasmine's not technically whatever the
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: scientific name for jasmine, which is this crazy hard to
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: repeat name, because jasmine's non native.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: So that's this thing where we're all habituated to think
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: something is normal because it's been around for I don't
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: know one hundred years.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Who is currently a live lifetime Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: They understand that says oh, this is just how it is,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: when technically that is not a normal thing at all, right,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: But we're just so habituated to it that we think
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this is this is normal, when actually
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: it's fully not at.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: All, right, And so you're saying this with the anthroposy
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and you're saying, well, I'm just going to embrace it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: You know, we're in it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: There's no one doing it. How do we make the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: best of this situation?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Exactly? It's over kind of thing, right, Like did you
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: see this thing about this is so stupid? But I
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: found out, Uh, there's a book a woman wrote. I
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: have to read it, but it's about ice. Not about
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: the the goon squad, I know, but about literally about.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Ice, right frozen water.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And it just blew my mind because you realize that
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: all human life in the world, pretty much in any
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: type of like even mildly first world setting, has been
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: radically changed since we have the ability to refrigerate things,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: oh get ice. Yeah, I'm sure it's like completely different.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean the things that that allows, like
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: from like science to like luxury things.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: It's so different. Like the life lifestyle we have has
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: been everything for before ice was everywhere you went was
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: different because we don't have any ice.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: You know, the idea of like there being a period
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: when like there was just it was literally impossible to
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: be out in the desert area and there is just
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: how would you have eyes?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: What you got is what you got.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the things you're dealing with, and if
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: you want to preserve something, it's got to be.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Insult Yeah, and now that is everywhere.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's probably one of the biggest things that
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: like on the same level of fire.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: It's huge. It's so huge where I'm seeing this. I
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: gotta read the book because it's just called ice, right,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: But you know, like it made me feel like an idiot,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: right because I'm thinking, Oh, all this time, I haven't
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: realized that that so many things in our life are
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: just they're completely and totally influenced by refrigeration. We would
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: be living completely different lives.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Absolutely, yeah, I mean we wouldn't have
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: any sort of medication.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: There's everything would be so much more localized, like the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: way you do it over there. Oh, that's how they
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: do it, because you know they got it's cold then.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Right ice. Oh that's very nice thing. I'm curious about that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tough time for that book title.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: But oh my god, the worst yeah, the worst.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Is there anything left to say about this? Saw?
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, oh, I check it out. If you push
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: down that button and push it the other direction, like
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: you're not going to fold it, so push.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Here you do it because I'm scared.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: So watch this. You can do like an undercut.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Oh that's great, cool. Wow, what a piece of engineering.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I know these Danish or maybe Swedes, who knows, they've
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: been making this stuff like over one hundred years. Oh
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: at least, right, it's probably cut some ice with this, yeah,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and sell it to people in the tropics.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Have you been ever been to Antarctica?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: No?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, that feels like a place that you would travel.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I was obsessed with it for a long time because
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: there's this great book called Big Dead Place by Nicholas Johnson.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I communicated with him a couple of times. Okay, he's
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: not alive anymore, sure, but I mean this book is
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: one of the funniest things I've ever read my entire life. Huh,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Big Dead Place, Big dead Places all about uh an Arctica,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: because there is myth by Antarctica.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: That's all scientists, right, sure?
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Four to five people there are like support workers like
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: dishwasher of course, truck driver just like you know, labor person.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: That are kind of keeping it all up for the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: other people.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: And an Arctica for the most part is run by Raytheon, oh,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: which is a defense contract right right, so our PSCTHON
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Polar Services.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It's kind of eerie, it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Is, and it's so just wrought with bureaucracy in a
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: way that is comical.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: How many people do you think are currently living in Antarctica?
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So it's got to be an extremely small population.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: During the winter, it's pretty small, but I think the
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: summer it booms significantly. Huh. Yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the social scene feels like.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of drinking, yeah, and like
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of people having sex with someone who they
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: don't care what they look like.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: This is very Love Island. Very This feels like the reality.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I think it would be the reality show that people
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: wouldn't want to watch it, Like imagine being like miser
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: it's full darkness for about five or six months. Yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: colly dark.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Have you been to a place where the day night
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: cycles like that? Like been in Alaska during the summer
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: or anything? I want so crazy? It was in Alaska
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: during the summer once. And what an unsettling feeling for
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: it to be like four or like two am it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: still like it's noon. Your body doesn't know what to
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: do with it. So yeah, very and for it to
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: be completely dark I don't know if i'd be able
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to handle it.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: How long were you there for?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Just like a week, and so it was like my
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: dad had it was a business trip. My brother and
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I went along and kind of we fished and then
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: we like saw Fast Fish Furious in the movie theater.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: That's a cool I love seeing a movie in a place,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: It's a great like it's a kind of a waste
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: of a vacation or try, but it is an interesting feeling.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: It's like because it's such a such a thing you
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: associate with doing well at home.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: It's also like you go to I always go to McDonald's.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I'm in a foreign country.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Oh that will really give you a taste of the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: little you just check out, like how they doing it here?
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Right? Right?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd like to be in a movie theater in
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a foreign place. I don't know, especially in Alaska that's
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: not quite a movie town. But to see Fast and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the Furious and then go like deep sea fishing and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: be throwing up on a boat. Did you catch I
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: caught nothing because I was so sea sick. It was me,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: my dad and brother and then a grandmother and her
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: granddaughter who was pregnant, so the granddaughter who was pregnant.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I were just throwing up the whole time, damn. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: then my father and brother were fishing, so I didn't
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: get to catch anything. But did they catch anything? Yeah,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I think they did halibin.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I think, okay, yeah, they get it smoked.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: No, I think we just I think it was sent home.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: This is a long time ago frozen, okay. But we
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: then we did some fishing that was not deep sea
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: fishing and caught salmon.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I think. Nice.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: But we were like fishing and you could see bears.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: It was incredible. It's not really like a thing that
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I would ever seek out, you know, it's exactly my thing,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: but I I mean, it was wonderful, fascinating. We also
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: lived in like an airbnb, wasn't It was a what
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: do we used to call those? Just a rental, a
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: rented house. It was like a rented basement of a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: woman who we think may have been spying on us
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: with a like a cyber camera.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: She's got what else is she going to do?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Truly, at those endless nights, why did you think that,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Because this was so long ago that my brother had
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: to he was he was like an early eBay person
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and he was selling something. He was like fifteen at
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the time, but was selling something on eBay and had
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: to borrow her computer I think, to use eBay and
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: then saw her Internet history and there was like hidden
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: shower cameras that she had been searching for.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Ooh, that's fuck, that's against the law.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe not at the time, maybe I don't know, wow,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: but yeah, that was And we found out that her
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: screen name was Lusty Lady Linda.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Linda's got a second life.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Huh, she might have footage of me, damn, who knows.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: But that was a fun thing to discover while like
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: being in somebody's rented basement weird vacation.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: That sounds fun though that again, I feel like it's
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: maybe you know, we're not doing that anymore now. I
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: was like, you hit the code to check in company
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: running it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You're not meeting the people who are spye on you.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you meet me, I'll because I'll let you.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let you do whatever you want with me,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: take care of it, do whatever you want. But if
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: you're in some office for no.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of it all.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're a do fish. I have but
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not like an outdoorsy person.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I'm a very outdoorsy person, but I'm not like a
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I'm like a big.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Fishing Okay, you're more like hiking camping.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love fishing. I don't like eating
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of fish.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I mean I just.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Love the I don't know, I like all that stuff.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Anything outdoors. I'm men do it on some level. I'm
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: not like a really good at being out there for
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: What's the longest you've been out for?
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Probably like me, four nights off in the back country.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so like a big hike.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Every summer I go with some friends up to
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yosemite area.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Oh beautiful.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Do about a week up.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: There, Okay. I've been wanting to go up there for
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: a very long time.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the most incredible places in
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Any image you see of it, it's like this is, yeah,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: just absolutely stunning.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: There's a reason all these people come from different countries
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: That, right.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: They don't have that shit.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: They do not have it. Their garbage, the things that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Come you know. That's the thing about the national parks.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things where I'm kind of like
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: a zealot for America in that sense where.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like these jewels that America happens to
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: have that are protected for now, and other countries they don't. Well,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I mean other countries I think are just beautiful naturally
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and they just get to continue being natural. I guess
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: you have to protect them. Yeah, if there's not the space, Yeah,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Stuff that they just we just don't. They don't have
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: the same. It's just different and the variety, the variety,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: everything about it is bigger, right, it's Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite National Park?
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Uh, definitely a SMI. But it's one I've been to
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: so many times. It's so big and there's so many
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: places you can go to that are like if you
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: want Ansel Adams Wilderness, Oh, it's next to Yosemite. You
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: go through there, and you feel like this is a
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: fucking dream or something. Wow, you feel like you're in
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: some sort of AI constructed a set, right because you're
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: pop there's a little rolling hills with all this granite
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: boulders and uh, little pools that are green, blue.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And right.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: This is something that it's just uh, for whatever reason,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: my brain takes issue with whenever somebody says this looks
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: like another planet or this looks like AI. I think, no,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: this is just beautiful Earth.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: It's just this.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, but it is just like this is amazing.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: This isn't right.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: That's because it's we see the simulacrum before we see
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: the reality, right, Right. So it's like it's like when
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: people go to Disneyland and the people go to Paris
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: and they're like, it's just like Disneyland. It's like it's
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: the other way around, so fun. But it's just how
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: it is because we've been we don't see still, we
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: see the fake before we see the real.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Right, it's so much easier to access artificial things for
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the most real you.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Just kind of it feels fake because it's so pristine.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Right. That's like growing up in Utah. That's a lot
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: of that sort of thing where it's like it feels
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: like we're on Mars and it's like, well, no, it's
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: just this is what.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Earth looks like. But Utah non Utah is just stunning.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Utah is very beautiful and then
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of it is very beige. Yeah, but the
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: beautiful parts are gorgeous. Well, I'm thrilled, Like the practicality
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: you're lending to my life is really impressive.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: That's my goal.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're also putting tree cutters out of business.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I think they're they're still okay.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess like there are parts of these trees
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: that are too high up for me.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have one of those, and I
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: just hired some tree cutters, right I had.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I got a little irresponsible and didn't trim the tree
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: and it fully collapsed in the wind. What that was?
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was kind of impressive to see, not
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: sure what sort of tree, and it was big enough
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that most of it's still alive, but one fold like
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: trunk collapsed in my yard and was just blocking the
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: entire yard. It was fun to look at.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Was in it conifer? Deciduous? Oh?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: If I have no idea?
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Was it pine pine type?
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: No?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Not pine type? Yeah, So you know, I wish I
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: had any not an oak, because the branches or the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: trunks are maybe this big around again.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: They go up in three with a flower.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: No, okay, still mostly alive, but I'll be able to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: do some light trimming some time, pruning. I think we
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: should play a game.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Oh we're going to play Gift or a Curse. But
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I need to number between one and ten from you five. Okay.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating to get our
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: game pieces. So right now you can promote, recommend, do
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: whatever you want.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Please continue to watch Fallout on Amazon Prime. Enjoy it
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: all episodes are available, and then prep yourself to go
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: to the theater and see Mermaid when it comes out
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: on April eighth and most draft house cinemas across the country.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Mermaid written directed by Tyler Kornack, starring Johnny Pemberton.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Mermaid, me too. You've posted a
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: little bit about it, but yeah, it seems to already
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: be very well received.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: And yeah, we had a great time at south By
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: What is the movie about?
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: It is about a loser guy named Doug who's played
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: by me, and he finds a mermaid. But it's not
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: like a beautiful mermaid.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: This is a creature, right, It's something that lives in
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: the ocean.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, but it is a mermaid. It's an exotic it's
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: an exotic creature. So he falls in love with it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: In a sense and all this madness ensues.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: And people are going gaga over Fallout.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's it's such a big thing and
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: it's been around for so long that right, But it's.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Like kind of crossed over in a way where it
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: was like a big video game and it it's like
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: a big everything.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess it's just because they did such a
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: great job with the show.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: You know, it's good casting.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I think the best. Yeah, I'm I'm biased, but I
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: would say some of the probably one of the best cast.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I really believe that. Yeah, not interesting to get LORI
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Metcalf over there, Oh my.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: God, I would be I'd have to prep myself significantly
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: to be able to speak with her without that would yeah.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Fe oh she's the absolute best. Okay, this is how
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: a curse and why then I'll tell you if you're
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: right or wrong because I got correct answers right. These
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: are all from Patreon listeners today. This first one is
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: from Christiane Gift. You're a curse. Podcasters who routinely talk
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: through a burp.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Ooh that's a curse. Why because it's someone who is
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: they just can't take the time to realize that they'll
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: get back the time.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: This correct, I mean correct. This is a total curse
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: for me. Anytime somebody brings up the word podcast on
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: this podcast, I think, are they talking about me? But
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine I've done that before? Have I talked?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think you have.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: What does that even look like?
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I may have done it today?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: What does that really like practically speaking? Is are they
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: like here? It is?
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: So the thing about these weapons is people are just
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: always finding them on the streets. And that's.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Listener, if I've ever done that, I'm sorry that feels
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: What I was imagining is like as a kid, you've
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: been like the gross kid being like I'll do the
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: ABC's as a burp.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot that that was such a thing,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: that was the real thing. For a while, I wanted
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: so badly to be that guy.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Seems so dangerous to me. Okay, so this is more
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: of a like you're just hearing them like process a
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: bodily something while talking, rather than just stepping back for
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: a second. Well, I think that's a curse, and I'm
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: sorry that if I've ever done it, and if Christina's
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: kind of passively aggressively passive aggressively coming after me, I apologize. Okay,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: you've gotten one right so far. Nexus is from Caroline
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: or Caroline, I don't know. Gift or a curse. Retired
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: ambulances repurposed as plumbing work trucks.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know that was even a thing. I'd say
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: gift why. I just think anything repurposed is great, correct?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I love?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I love, especially a repurposed truck, because trucks come in
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: all sorts of shapes and fun sizes. A repurpose like
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: postal truck or ice cream truck. Those aren't typical vehicles
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you're seeing other than their exact use. So then when
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: it's a plumbing truck, has anybody ever done a fire
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: truck other than yeah, what use will that be other
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: than looking like a long rectangle?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: And the gas the gas on those things.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Probably diesel, that's gonna be. That's a big bill.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: This is something I don't understand. When fire people go
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: out to lunch with each other and take the fire truck.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: They do.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, So we were seeing this, So pull up in
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: front of like a savage place. It's like, wait, doesn't
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: send me you're coming from or to a job? Is
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: so they just have it ready.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I think it's so they get the discount, but they've
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: already got the costume on just and every every bit helps.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: If I were a fire guy, I'll be doing that,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Are there fire ladies?
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: There have to be.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: I mean I think that there have to be.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: But I just I have never uh well, I've never
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: been rescued from a fire. First of all, I've never
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: been god knock on wood, I'll never I haven't been
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: dragged from a burning home or anything. But I've never
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: interacted with a fire woman.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Right, I haven't either. I'm just thinking, you know.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there are ill becaussive times the living scenario.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to discount that. I'm sure there are. But
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: it's just I think it is a very male dominated.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I think it's very dominated. But I wonder, I wonder.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Now it's got me wondering. Yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Also, sometimes there's that thing maybe where you know certain industries.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: It's not like you can try to to make that happen.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: But it just nobody wants to do.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: It, right. The guys of the down of the station
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: just refuse.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Well, not even that, it's like there's just we can't
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: find any women who want to do it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Oh right, it's just like, well the door is open. Yeah. Yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: but they're they're driving those trucks that out to the
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: you know, sandwich place, and the gas I mean they're
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: blowing through gas. They must be diesel. It's got to
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: be diesel, right, yeah, not that that matters, but maybe
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: slightly cheaper. I've never seen one filling out of Maybe
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: they have it at.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: The station at the station.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Interesting. There are a lot of things about how a
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: fire station works that I'm not familiar with.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: It's become a very much nine year old boy on
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: the Spectrum conversation. We need to correct us.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Did you ever you had that show where you drove
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: big vehicles around?
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, forever ago? Yeah?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Did you ever drive a fire fire truck?
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: I did?
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: You did?
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: And Salt Lake too?
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was an airport fire truck.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, how far did you drive it?
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: God? Not very far, just kind of around the like
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: the area where they have simulated fires.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's it hard to drive. I don't remember how
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: did that show even come into being.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: It came into being. This was back when MTV was
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: was doing stuff like that, and they had someone create
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: it and they just needed someone to host. Yeah, they
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: auditioned me. They flew me out to Jersey to audition
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: and like the middle of winter against other people, other
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: people they were auditioning, right, with a test, like a.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Camera testing And did you have to drive for the test?
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: I drove like a semi in a lot with like
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: some some dude. I think it's Portuguese. God, I can
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: rarely remember this, but I definitely had like a test.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: That's fast they got and that was enough to make
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: the pilot shot the pilot and it got picked up right,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: and they had a different guy come on as showrunner
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: for the show. Okay, it was a whole thing. It
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: was like a lot of work.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a I mean that the logistics of
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: that seem very complicated to me, putting someone who doesn't
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: drive these things that usually require a license to drive them.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Was there any not to just suddenly dive into you
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: driving the car show? But was there any car that
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: was particularly scary to drive?
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: All of them. They were all I think back, and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe I didn't come close to dyet. Of course,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: I was riding in some motorcycle that was like a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: like uh it was maybe twenty times the size of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: a regular motorcycle for what purpose? Because it was some guy,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: some wacko dude.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: It was like a novelty cycle.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Novelty. This thing was not rated by any authority, and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: we drove over stuff. The fact that it didn't tip over,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I would have broken all of my ribs, one hundred
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: percent would have I was like a metal cage, would
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: have broken all my ribs. We drove these these dolphins
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: that were barely tested. It all dolphins, like a dolphin
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: like sort of like a she had like a like
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: a seaday. It was in the dolphin shape and you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: were encapsulated in it. The fact that I didn't drown
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: in a lake in Oregon go underwater, yeah, just a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: And it was the most deeply unsafe thing.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: While you were doing it. Were you enjoying it or
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: you just being like theocusing on, I don't want to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: die while doing that.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: I loved it, but I used to always acknowledge I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: had a thing where I'd always imagine how I would die,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: thinking that if you are prepared for dying in a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: certain way, the angel of death doesn't want to kill
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: you that way because the angel of death wants to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: surprise you.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: It's no fun for the angel of death.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because angel death wants to be like if you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: can see it coming, it's like a mountain lion. Mountain
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: lion never attacks you had on Oh I didn't know that.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: They pretty much never do because they're ambush predators. I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: think that death is the same way.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: So I would constantly imagine how I would die in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: hopes that I wouldn't die that way. And the older
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I get, the more I'm like, I cannot believe how
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: legal department signed off on any of this.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the more you know about how TV gets
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: made and how little they'll that you do anything.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just so incredibly I think I was
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: also just really cautious, like I was looking out for
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: myself all the time.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you probably had to, especially on like kind
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: of a reality show where right, they probably want someone
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: to die on camera.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: I mean often I want someone to die, but injury
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: would have been cool.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been exciting for them, for sure.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I did vomit in a plane spectacularly, in a stunt plane,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, I sprayed vomit. And as much as
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: they that much as the pilot hated that, the producers were.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Like, of course, yeah, they would do that every episode
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: if they could. Yes, that's a show where you throw
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: up on a different vehicle every God, that's a sequel show.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was Manus.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's a fun memory to think of it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Manus.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever talked about this, but
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: I think you were in the like the first stand
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: up show I ever saw in La. You were on
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: the lineup. Where was it? It was in that weird
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: little western thing on Gower Gower Gulch.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: I think, okay, I think I know you're talking about it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Tiger Lily? Maybe as what I was,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: that's it. I think that was the first, and I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: remember it being like the longest stand up show I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: have ever.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Seen, probably like fifteen comedians.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was truly like three and a half hours.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: I remember that shit.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: But I remember you were like the one person and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I was like this person's very funny and the rest
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: of this is agony. Yes, that's a very early memory too.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, well now we've gotten very off course, but I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: think you've gotten two right so far. Finally, this is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: from Stephanie Gift to a curse. A stuffed animal affixed
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: to a semi truck.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: That's a curse. Why it's gonna get out? Get out?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Dirty?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's so dirty. It's one of those things
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: where you can't tell what's going on. Is this like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: a is this a person a hard person showing their
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: soft side? Or is this a person who's so hard
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: You're like, this is what I do with the stuffed animal.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: I don't like that?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Correct, you win the game? This to me, any adult
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: interacting with a stuffed animal or plush, it's immediately like
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the madded gross fur. There's something dirty about it. There's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: something like something's wrong here, especially those they're out in
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the weather. They're filthy. It's just like, this is dangerous.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: There's an element of this person that I can't trust. Ever,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: and why did they go out of their way to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: attach this to the thing? What are they trying to prove?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: The only excuse is if their child was lost, just
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: all they have. But even then you wouldn't have fixed
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: it to the back of your truck.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: That feels like the worst possible play.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because usually you can find the stuffed animals, like
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: this is where Abigail was murdered, and we found her.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: There's her stuffy and that happens all the time. This
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: is the classic case of for forensic files.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Now, if that happens, get the tattoo.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: When Abigail McIntyre m why would I say McIntyre the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: first time anyone ever said, McIntyre said of McIntyre, mcre mckintyre.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: My brain just did some weird thing where it's like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: yees say it that way.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Where you can't even picture what the last.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: You freaking idiot say it mckintyre. Jesus, how do they
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: do that?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: That's g in it? Yeah, McIntyre, mckent, mcmacintyre, McIntyre.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Young Abigail McIntyre, I was lost for forty days. Her
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: parents found her stuffed animal.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Well you won the game. Good for you know what
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: to say? Will you help me answer a listener question?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I will, Okay, people are writing into I said no
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: gifts at Gmail dot com or they're sending voice notes
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: that have to common sense, record them in a quiet place,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: don't make them too long, that sort of thing. Okay,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: this one is a written email. It says, Hello, Bridger
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: and guest, I need some advice about something that happened
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: over a decade ago. When my husband and I first
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: got married, we lived with my in laws for a
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: couple of years while saving to buy our own place.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: For that first Christmas, we bought them a Soda Stream
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: soda maker. Soda Stream Soda Maker. It was really expensive
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: for us at the time, but my father in law
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: was addicted to diet coke, so we thought he'd like it.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Fast forward a year later and we were trying to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: decide what to get them for Christmas again. While searching
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: for Christmas decorations in their garage, we saw the maker
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: with the gift receipt still attached to the top. We
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: were still so poor and they hadn't used the gift,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: so we did the unthinkable. We returned the Soda Stream
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Maker to buy them a new gift for that Christmas.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: A couple months after Christmas, my mother in law brought
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: up the maker and we actively helped her to look
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: for it. To this day, she brings it up about
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: once a year, wondering where it went. Has it been
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: long enough that we tell her the truth or will
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: we go to hell? EXO, very guilty daughter in law
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: thirteen years after the fact. This is interesting.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: That's guilty. That's very guilty, daughter in law. I'm going
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: to hell. We're all I'm going to hell. Baby, Damn.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Wow, what the hell stands a chance?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Geez, she thought about it. I can't imagine having enough
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: space and your conscience for something like that.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: To just continually keep you up at night for thirteen
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: years for that. No, I'm moving on.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: That's a good That's must be a nice family to.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Me in that situation, I'm thinking mother in law is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: going to hell. I'm fine.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: That is not a person who is in the entertainment industry.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: This person could not cut it now.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: That person has too loved, way too loved to abuse
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: themselves on a daily basis by working in the most
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: rotten industry that's ever existed.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: This person has thought about another person enough to email
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: about them.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: There are like professional hangmen who have less going on.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: I totally support this. Yeah, I think it was just
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: being wasted in the garage. They were trying to send
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: you a sign.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: I want to know what's up with this mother in law?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: What is she thinking?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Why is she still thinking about this thing she's wear
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: with this thing that's probably fifty dollars. Go buy one,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: you psycho.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Have a good laugh about that. It's over Christmas morning.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: You had some coffee, maybe you've had an early toddy.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone's so drunk.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: They're not This is not a drinking family. I feel like.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like I mean me in this situation. If
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I feel that guilty, I'm going to buy a new
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: one and putting it back and then being like, oh,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: let's go look one more time thirteen years after. Oh,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: there it is. I have such fools.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: I have zero guilt with that kind of stuff. Like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: I would be like, oh, I can't even imagine the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: situation that I would even remain un set, Like it'll
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: be instantaneous. It'd be like the second I find it,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: But why the hell is this? You haven't used it?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: We bought this for you.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Don't you know what we're going through.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I don't understand people who have that thing with their
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: family where they're so like like kid gloves it's your family,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: you say it right away.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're not in my family.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can't imagine that.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: A lot of communication issues in the Wyneger family. Wow,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of like just keeping it to yourself as
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: long as possible. You have a very open family.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: But it's a healthy thing to do.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: It's good and bad though, like the whole thing when
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: people are oh, I don't want to I don't know
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: if I want to do this because my dad will
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: not be happy. It's like, who gives a shit what
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: they think? That's healthy, I guess, but it's also kind
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: of like, well, they're so fucked up they won't go
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: to therapy, so who gives us shit what they say?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: These these are crazy people who are like lying about
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff, manipulating, Like I don't care what
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: they think.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: That's such a good way to look at things.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but my family they're so messed up, like my parents,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: like they're they're just so deeply you know what I mean.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: They're so mired in all kinds of old bullshit that like,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: how could you possibly give a shit what they think
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: about anything that you're doing. They're like a different century.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: You know, like they care's a different way of thinking.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: They're like from a time when when you go to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: a hotel, you'd leave the hotel because you have to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: You can't be there for turn down. You have to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: go out for dinner and you you know what I mean,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: like all these like what.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Is operating your life? What sort of rules are you playing?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Sadly, I think this ancient thing.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Wait, we don't do that anymore.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: They're operating by pre ice rules back when, like you know,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: you weren't able to provide yourself your own drink cold drink. Ugh,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I just can't understand. That drives me crazy.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this person's I mean, they should have let them know.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: And if not by now, I think Steph have a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: laugh also, or maybe just reverse the guilt at this
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: point and say, didn't you know what we were going through.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: We scrimped and saved for you and then you just
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: kept that thing in the garage. You could have been
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: having unlimited diet coke on us and meanwhile at home
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: we're splitting a can.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Also, you can't manufacture diet coke no, I mean that's
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: the big thing that we can't make a fake the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: soda stream can't possibly yeah, you can't phenal kinectronics in there. Whatever.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: That stuff's called, the stuff that's all killing us greedy. Yeah,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: what is it called.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: It's a word that I think that on purpose they
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: kind of said, don't let anyone be able to pronounce this,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: otherwise they'll be able to talk about it.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: It's definitely the thing causing I.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Mean just probably everything, and I just kind of give
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: handed myself a lot of it. Unfortunately not as much
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: as because you know, growing up Mormon didn't drink coffee,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: so once coffee came into the situation, that kind of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: made up a lot of my caffeine consumption. But I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: still drink a decent amount of diet coke and I've
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: kind of just said to myself, you know what whatever, anthroposcene, anthroposne. Yeah,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: it's the exact thing.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: It's just I drink it when I'm having a rough
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: time on set. You need some caffeine, I go to
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: the diet coke because it's the keems.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Oh you think it's the chems that are helping.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's the chemicals in concert with the caffeine
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: somehow that is like the thing that helps you pull through.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: It's a different type of stimulation.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: I get it is a different It's certainly more than coffee,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: because I can't drink coffee at night night, but I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: can drink diet coke.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Really die coke will fucking rit me open if.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Well, this guilty daughter in law, I think should just
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: continue living in guilt until she goes to hell and
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: just waste her life.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that the shame involved in it's just nothing.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: The fact that that registers what a nice person I know, sweet,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: what a nice person? Gosh.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, thirteen years have no soda stream for anybody
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: in years. I feel like there were a lot of
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: answers this whole time, and she waits for a podcast
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: to come along to finally get her answer. She's got
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: to get a control of her family and herself. I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: don't know what to say, Steph, Well, I have another
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: useful item from you.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: This is uh.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I'll just keep asking you on every couple of years
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: until my life is fixed, and then we'll end to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: the podcast.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what else I could do with myself.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I already got an eyelash on here. No nuts, it's
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: probably a dog here and it was part of the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Fiskers brand.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Fisker Whisker.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: That trademark Fisker Whisker. Well, thank you for being here,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: thank you for having me.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: It was a wonderful time listener.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I always enjoy listener. The podcast is over. We're pulling
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: the over lever. It's done. Move get doing something else.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: do it without our booker, Patrick Coottner. You must follow
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, that's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Did you hear?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Funamin Missille? Perfectly clear? But you're a guess to my home.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guess,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: your own presence is presents enough. I already had too
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me