Latest / Investor Exchange / Mercurius Capital: Interim Financials to March 2025
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Let's unpack this. We've got the interim financials here from Mercurius Capital
- 0:12Investment Limited. Yep. Listed on the SGX Catalyst board.
- 0:16These are the condensed statements for the first three months of 2025, so ending March 31st.
- 0:21And we should probably mention right off the bat why we're seeing quarterly
- 0:25reports from them. It's not always standard for catalyst companies, is it?
- 0:28No, it isn't. The documents state it's required because their independent auditor
- 0:33gave a disclaimer of opinion for the full year ending December 2022.
- 0:38A disclaimer, right. That's a pretty serious flag from an auditor.
- 0:41It means they couldn't form an opinion.
- 0:43Exactly. So enhanced scrutiny, hence these quarterly updates.
- 0:46Got it. So our deep dive today is sticking strictly to what's in these Q1 2025
- 0:51statements. We want to understand the financial performance compared to last
- 0:55year, figure out why the numbers look the way they do, and get a feel for their own stated outlook.
- 1:00That's the plan. Pulling the story directly from these pages for you.
- 1:04No outside info, just what the company has reported here. All right,
- 1:07let's start at the very top line.
- 1:09Revenue and cost of sales. What are we seeing for Q1 2025?
- 1:13Well, it's simple. Zero. And it was zero for Q1 2024 as well.
- 1:18Nothing at all. No revenue. Nope.
- 1:21The report is quite clear. Their main operating business, the grocery subsidiary,
- 1:25actually ceased operations back on June 30th, 2023.
- 1:29Ah, OK. So that explains it. No active business generating sales during either
- 1:33of these first quarters.
- 1:34Precisely. Which makes the bottom line even more interesting.
- 1:37Right. So moving down the statement.
- 1:39Net loss. They reported a loss of S-197,000 dollars for Q1 2025.
- 1:45Which actually is an improvement compared to the S-308,000 loss they posted in Q1 2024.
- 1:52An improvement. How much is that? It's about a 36% reduction in the net loss
- 1:55year on year for the quarter.
- 1:57So still losing money, but losing less money. OK, that's the really interesting part then.
- 2:01How does a company with zero revenue manage to cut its losses by over a third?
- 2:05Where did the savings come from? Well, the report points to one major factor,
- 2:09administrative expenses.
- 2:10OK, what happened there? They dropped significantly from $166,000 in the first
- 2:16quarter of 2024 down to just $58,000 in Q1 2025.
- 2:22Wow, that's a cut of over S-100,000 dollars. How did they manage that?
- 2:25The report gives a reason.
- 2:27It does. It states, and I quote, this was primarily due to no director and employee
- 2:31remuneration during Q1 2025.
- 2:33No salaries at all for directors or staff. That seems to be what no remuneration
- 2:38implies in this context.
- 2:39That's a very direct way to slash admin costs. It certainly is.
- 2:43So that explains the bulk of the reduced loss. Anything else major moving on the expense side?
- 2:47Finance costs? Finance costs saw a very slight decrease, down from S-142,000 to S-139,000.
- 2:54So only about $3,000 difference. And what's driving that?
- 2:57Still paying interest on debts, I assume? Yes. The document says it's mainly
- 3:00accrued interest on convertible loans. There was apparently some adjustment
- 3:03from the previous quarter, Q4 2024, but also some increase from interest on director's loan.
- 3:08So it sort of nets out to a small decrease. Not really the main story here.
- 3:12Right. The admin cost cut is the big one. Now, there's another line item here.
- 3:15Share of loss from joint venture.
- 3:17It's recorded as nil in both Q1 2024 and Q1 2025.
- 3:23Does that mean the JV Grand Bay Hotel is doing OK?
- 3:26Broke even? No, that's not what the report says. It explicitly states the company
- 3:30was unable to obtain the pertinent financial information from Grand Bay. Unable to get the info.
- 3:35For how long? They mentioned this inability has persisted since the financial
- 3:38year ended December 2023.
- 3:40So for all of 2024 and now into Q1 2025, they haven't been able to reliably
- 3:46estimate or include the JV's results.
- 3:48So no means unknown, not zero loss. That's significant, isn't it?
- 3:52Given they likely have money tied up in that venture.
- 3:55Absolutely. It means the reported net loss of $197,000 doesn't reflect whatever
- 4:00might be happening financially at Grand Bay, good or bad, because they couldn't get the numbers.
- 4:03It's a blind spot. Okay, so the overall reduced net loss feeds through to the
- 4:07losses per share, naturally.
- 4:09Right. Basic and diluted LPS improved from a loss of 0.022 cents per share in
- 4:13Q1 2024 to a loss of 0.014 cents per share in Q1 2025.
- 4:19Reflecting that smaller loss spread over the same number of shares.
- 4:21And I see a note about convertible loans being anti-dilutive.
- 4:25Standard stuff when you have a loss.
- 4:27Potential shares aren't included if they'd make the loss per share look smaller.
- 4:31Okay, so that's the profit and loss picture. Less loss, primarily due to cutting
- 4:35salaries, but with a significant unknown regarding the joint venture.
- 4:39Let's pivot to the balance sheet.
- 4:41What's the overall state of financial health as of March 31st, 2025?
- 4:46Well, the headline number isn't great. Both the group and the company are in
- 4:49a net liabilities position, meaning liabilities exceed assets.
- 4:53And is that position getting better or worse? It actually worsened during the quarter.
- 4:57Group net liabilities increased from about S3.56 million dollars at the end
- 5:01of December 2024 to S3.75 million dollars at the end of March 2025.
- 5:06And the company level? Similar trend. Net liabilities up from roughly S$2.69
- 5:11million to S$2.87 million.
- 5:15And that increase, that worsening net liability position, that's basically the
- 5:19S$197,000 net loss for the quarter eating into their already negative equity, right? Exactly right.
- 5:25The loss directly increases the accumulated deficit, pushing them further into negative equity.
- 5:30What about the key asset and liability movements? Let's start with current assets.
- 5:34Anything notable there? Current assets did edge up slightly from S$83,000 to S$97,000.
- 5:42The report says this is mainly higher prepayments and other receivables.
- 5:46But the really stark figure is cash.
- 5:49Ah, yes. The cash balance. How low are we talking? For the group,
- 5:52it was $11,000 at the end of March. And it was $11,000 at the end of December, too.
- 5:57Basically flat and incredibly low. For the company level, it's $9,000.
- 6:02$11,000 cash for the entire group. Like that's barely anything,
- 6:06like a rounding error for many companies. How can they even operate?
- 6:09It's a wafer-thin cushion, absolutely. Yeah. Raises immediate questions about liquidity.
- 6:13Okay, what about non-current assets? Anything significant there?
- 6:16They remain stable during the quarter.
- 6:18The big item, as we discussed, is the investment in that joint venture,
- 6:21Grand Bay, carried at $5.12 million to the group.
- 6:24And that value hasn't been impaired despite not getting financials?
- 6:28And we'll get to the other issues with it shortly, I suppose.
- 6:31That's a key point. The carrying value is static here, despite the clouds hanging
- 6:35over it. Oh, and property, plant, and equipment.
- 6:38Fully depreciated. Zero book value.
- 6:41So the asset side is dominated by an uncertain JV investment and almost no cash.
- 6:46What about the liability side? That's where the net position is worsening.
- 6:50Yes. Current liabilities increased. Went from about $8.77 million to $8.97 million.
- 6:57What drove that increase? More borrowing? Primarily higher trade and other payables,
- 7:01according to the report.
- 7:03It specifically mentions increased advances from directors and also higher payables
- 7:07to suppliers for operating expenses. So it sounds like directors are putting
- 7:11money in just to keep things afloat, and maybe they're stretching payments to suppliers.
- 7:16That's what the increase in those payables suggests, yes.
- 7:18Borrowings also ticked up slightly, but that was mainly the accrued interest
- 7:22on the convertible loans we mentioned earlier.
- 7:24This all points to a worsening working capital situation, then.
- 7:28If current liabilities are rising, and current assets, especially cash,
- 7:32are static and low. Absolutely.
- 7:35The report confirms their negative working capital position increased.
- 7:38It went from $6.6 state million negative at the end of 2024 to $8.87 million
- 7:44negative at the end of March 2025.
- 7:46So they owe nearly $9 million more in the short term than they have in short
- 7:51term assets to cover it. That's a huge gap.
- 7:54It highlights significant liquidity pressure.
- 7:56And as you said, the overall equity position for the group just keeps shrinking
- 8:00due to the ongoing losses. OK,
- 8:01so the balance sheet paints a picture of increasing financial distress.
- 8:05Let's see how this connects to cash flow. Did any actual cash move during Q1?
- 8:09Well, the headline number on the cash flow statement is, again,
- 8:11a bit surprising at first glance.
- 8:13Net cash used in operating activities for Q1 2025 was nil.
- 8:18Zero. Zero cash used in operations. Yeah. But they had expenses like those finance
- 8:22costs and the reduced admin costs.
- 8:24How could it be zero? It was $4,000 used last year. Ah, the details explain it.
- 8:29Operating cash outflows before changes in working capital were S-57,000.
- 8:33So they did spend cash on ongoing costs. Okay, S57K out, so how did it end up nil?
- 8:38Because that outflow was exactly
- 8:39offset by S57,000 dollars generated from changes in working capital.
- 8:44And how did they generate cash from working capital?
- 8:47Selling off inventory? Collecting receivables faster?
- 8:51Neither of those, really. The S57,000 dollars generated was mainly due to a
- 8:55$71,000 increase in trade and other payables.
- 8:58Ah, so they generated cash by essentially not paying a $71,000 worth of bills
- 9:04or obligations during the quarter, that increase we saw on the balance sheet.
- 9:08Precisely. It's cash preservation by delaying payments. This was partly offset
- 9:12by a set $14,000 increase in receivables, meaning more money owed to them, which uses cash.
- 9:17But the net effect was inflow from working capital changes. So not really cash
- 9:21generation in a sustainable sense, more like cash management through payables.
- 9:25That's a fair description. And importantly, the cash flow statement shows absolutely
- 9:29zero cash flow from investing activities,
- 9:32and zero from financing activities in Q1 2025. Nothing.
- 9:36No assets bought or sold, no debt raised or repaid, beyond accrued interest,
- 9:40no equity issued. Nothing at all reported in those sections.
- 9:43Which means the overall change in cash and cash equivalents for the quarter
- 9:46was nil, which explains why the cash balance stayed stuck at that S11,000 dollar level. Exactly.
- 9:52Complete inactivity on the cash front other than juggling those operational payables.
- 9:56This whole picture, no revenue, net liabilities, minimal cash,
- 10:01zero operating cash flow, leads us, I think inevitably, to the next big section in the report.
- 10:07Significant events and going concern uncertainty.
- 10:11Yes, and the language here is very direct.
- 10:14The report explicitly states that the net loss, the net liabilities,
- 10:18the low cash, and other events indicate a material uncertainty.
- 10:22A material uncertainty about what? About the groups and the company's ability
- 10:26to continue as going concerns. Basically, can they survive and pay their debts as they fall due?
- 10:31The report flags this doubt very clearly.
- 10:34That's the formal language auditors use when they have serious doubts.
- 10:37What specific events does the report highlight as contributing factors? It lists several.
- 10:42First, they just remind us about
- 10:43the winding up of the Song Mart groceries business back in August 2023.
- 10:47That's the root cause of the lack of operations. The original problem,
- 10:50yeah. Then, something new, potentially.
- 10:53A Song Mart-related claim. Apparently, in March 2025, they got a letter of demand
- 10:58from the liquidator of Songmart Malaysia. A demand for what?
- 11:02Related to stamp duty from the original acquisition back in 2021.
- 11:05The company says they're investigating if the claim is valid,
- 11:08but it's another potential liability cropping up from the past.
- 11:12Okay, another ghost from the past.
- 11:14Any positive developments mentioned? Well, they mentioned the settlement with
- 11:17Alliance Bank. Remember, there was a summary judgment against them related to Songmar debts. Right.
- 11:22They paid about U.S. $460,000 back in July 2024, which was roughly 50% of the
- 11:28claim, and a full and final settlement.
- 11:30So that particular legal battle is over. It cost them cash last year,
- 11:33but it resolved that specific issue. Okay, one fire put out.
- 11:36But the report details another major legal issue, doesn't it?
- 11:39Involving the former CEO, a Mr. Chu.
- 11:42Yes. This one seems particularly critical right now. The report refers to prior
- 11:46demands and even winding up threat from him.
- 11:49But the key development is a settlement agreement reached in April 2025. April 2025.
- 11:55So after the Q1 reporting period, but obviously very relevant.
- 11:58Exactly. It's disclosed as a significant subsequent event.
- 12:01And the terms, well, they seem quite demanding.
- 12:04What are the terms? This sounds like where things get really precarious based on the document's tone.
- 12:09The company has to pay Mr. Chu S-365,000 as a single lump sum.
- 12:15And they have to do it within three months from the date of that April agreement.
- 12:19Three months from April. So roughly by July 2025, S-365,000 with only S-11,000
- 12:25in the bank at the end of March.
- 12:27Precisely. That's the immediate challenge. But here's the really critical part,
- 12:30the consequence of not paying. If they fail to pay that S-365K on time and don't
- 12:36get a written waiver, Mr.
- 12:37Chu can immediately go to court and seek judgment for the original, much higher amount.
- 12:41The original amount stated is $576,387.20, plus accrued interest going back
- 12:48to November 2024, plus legal costs. Wow.
- 12:51So miss the S-365K payment deadline, and suddenly the liability jumps potentially over $600,000.
- 12:57That's a huge risk tied to a very tight deadline, especially with their cash situation.
- 13:02The report flags this clearly. Very clearly.
- 13:05It's a major contingent liability hanging over them, a real sort of Damocles, as they say. Okay.
- 13:11What else contributes to this material uncertainty? Another factor mentioned
- 13:15is their status as a cash company.
- 13:17They notified the SGXST about this back in June 2024.
- 13:22And what does being a cash company imply? Does the report elaborate?
- 13:27It just notes that this status comes with specific requirements under the listing
- 13:30rules. It doesn't spell them out, but typically for you listening,
- 13:33this means the exchange sees them as having minimal operations or assets besides
- 13:38cash, though ironically they have very little cash.
- 13:41They usually get a deadline to find and acquire a new viable business or face potential delisting.
- 13:47So add regulatory pressure from the exchange to the list of challenges.
- 13:51Correct. And then there's that Grand Bay joint venture again.
- 13:53We knew they couldn't get financials, but there's more. More trouble.
- 13:56Yes, the report mentions a legal action in Thailand.
- 13:59A court judgment was issued back in November 2024 against Grand Bay and others. What was the judgment?
- 14:04Ordering them to repay a loan to someone called CS Property.
- 14:08And here's the kicker. If the loan isn't repaid, the judgment allows for the
- 14:12lands owned by Grand Bay, which were used as collateral to be seized and auctioned off.
- 14:17Seized and auctioned. And this is the JV where Mercurius carries a $5 million
- 14:21investment value on its books.
- 14:22That's the one. The report states Mercurius only became aware of this potential
- 14:26land seizure in late February 2025.
- 14:29They view it, unsurprisingly, as having a material impact on the group's financial
- 14:34position and are looking into the legal implication.
- 14:36So that $5 million asset on their balance sheet could potentially become worthless
- 14:40if those lands are auctioned. That appears to be the risk highlighted in their own disclosure.
- 14:44It casts even more doubt on the carrying value of that investment.
- 14:48OK, let's just quickly recap the uncertainty factors listed in this report.
- 14:52No operating business. A new claim from the defunct business.
- 14:56A massive settlement payment due by July with dire consequences for non-payment.
- 15:00Regulatory pressure as a cash company.
- 15:03And their single largest asset, the JV investment, facing potential seizure
- 15:07due to legal issues in Thailand.
- 15:09That sums up the key risks they've laid out.
- 15:12And the board acknowledges this material uncertainty about going concern in the report.
- 15:17They say they're working on strategies and will provide updates.
- 15:20And I guess the unresolved audit issues from the 2022 disclaimer related to
- 15:25Song Mart and Grand Bay still linger in the background, too. Yes.
- 15:28The report briefly notes those outstanding issues contribute to the overall
- 15:32picture of uncertainty.
- 15:34Right. So given this, quite frankly, dire picture painted by the numbers and
- 15:39events, what does the company say about its outlook?
- 15:42What's the path forward, according to this document?
- 15:45Well, the outlook commentary first mentions things they were planning,
- 15:48like a proposed acquisition of a company called Biospring, aiming for a pivot
- 15:52into the medical business. We're planning.
- 15:54What happened? The report says that proposed deal has been temporarily halted.
- 15:58They apparently ran into challenges
- 15:59executing IP rights and deploying personnel. So that plan is on hold.
- 16:03OK, so the medical pivot is stalled. What are they focusing on now?
- 16:07Now, the board states they are working on finalizing details for a collaboration
- 16:11with another party on blue carbon credits.
- 16:14Blue carbon credits. It's a completely different direction again.
- 16:19From groceries to property investment via the JV to a stalled medical tech plan.
- 16:24And now, environmental credits. Seriously.
- 16:27That's what the report states is the current focus. And how important is this
- 16:30blue carbon credit plan to their future, according to them? Critically important, it seems.
- 16:36The report explicitly says the group's outlook and financial performance for
- 16:39the next reporting period, and indeed the next 12 months, are closely tied to
- 16:44the outcome of this proposed collaboration on blue carbon credits. Wow.
- 16:47So basically everything hinges on this one potential deal in a completely new field.
- 16:53That's the strong impression given by their forward-looking statement here.
- 16:55OK, so let's try to summarize this whole situation based purely on these Q1 2025 statements.
- 17:01You have a company with literally no operating revenue. Correct.
- 17:04And increasing net liabilities, meaning they owe more than they own.
- 17:08A dangerously low cash balance, just $11,000 at the end of March.
- 17:13Yep. Facing several critical, time-sensitive issues, that huge S-365,000 settlement
- 17:19payment deadline to Mr. Chu looms large.
- 17:22With a penalty of over half a million dollars plus interest if they miss it.
- 17:26Right. Plus the risk of their main asset, the Grand Bay JV land,
- 17:30being seized and auctioned. Add in the regulatory pressure of being a cash company
- 17:34and the unresolved audit issues from the past.
- 17:37And their stated path forward, the basis for their outlook, rests entirely on
- 17:42successfully finalizing this one specific deal in blue carbon credits,
- 17:47an area they seemingly have no prior experience in, based on this report.
- 17:51It really paints a picture of extreme financial distress, doesn't it?
- 17:54Where survival seems to depend entirely on pulling off this specific new and
- 17:59undefined venture, the gap between the scale of the problems and the proposed solution seems vast.
- 18:04The report lays out the challenges very starkly. Minimal resources.
- 18:09Massive liabilities, significant uncertainties, and pinning hopes on one future event.
- 18:14So I guess the thought this leaves you with, reading just these documents,
- 18:17is how much heavy lifting can one potential deal in blue carbon credits,
- 18:22whatever that actually entails in detail, which isn't specified here realistically due?
- 18:26Can it truly offset the sheer way of the existing financial holes,
- 18:30the looming deadlines and the fundamental lack of an operating business?
- 18:33It certainly seems like a situation heavily dependent on factors outside their
- 18:38control and historical expertise. Something for you to really ponder if you're
- 18:42following this company. Thank you.