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Huddle Up | Jaguars OTAs: What to Look For · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up by the Fields Total Group, Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatterick wring you the
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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with John Oser. We're at the Honday Studios
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Speaker 2: inside the middle of Electric Center. Bucky Brooks is out
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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and the good afternoon, Bucky.
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Speaker 3: What's up man?
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Speaker 4: What's going on? Guys? I'm giving you a different look.
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Speaker 5: It's a new Bucky Brooks here. It's not where are you,
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Speaker 5: It's not the backdrop of the office that a Jaguars.
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Speaker 5: What's what's the shirt?
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Speaker 3: What are you rolling with? Today?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 6: No, I just I just happened to be in my
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Speaker 6: son's in my son's room as opposed to like my
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Speaker 6: typical office. I got some things going on into the
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Speaker 6: house and so I'm just you know different location.
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Speaker 2: Well, glad you uh, glad you adjusted for us. It's
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Speaker 2: great to great to see you a lot to get to.
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Speaker 2: Of course, phase three is here organized team activities and uh,
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Speaker 2: we're closing in on the end of the off season program.
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Speaker 2: What eight practices including I guess Wednesdays, uh to go
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Speaker 2: at ot as and then three mini camp practices on
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Speaker 2: the schedule, so not a lot of time left on
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Speaker 2: the field in this offseason.
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Speaker 3: And Johnny, you were out there on Monday. I was
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Speaker 3: You've been around that been a lot of a lot
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Speaker 3: of online reviews of some of the practice. What did
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Speaker 3: you see?
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Speaker 5: I saw a team that was practicing for the first
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Speaker 5: time in shorts and pads and with a new offense
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Speaker 5: and new defense. Uh. And I saw a May football practice,
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Speaker 5: and some of the questions afterward were sort of toward
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Speaker 5: as if there had been some tragedy with the offense.
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Speaker 5: And you know, what I saw that I liked, And
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Speaker 5: all I really wanted to see was that Bucky the
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Speaker 5: receivers are really fast. I thought Trevor Lawrence's quote about
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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter getting in and out of breaks, that's all
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Speaker 5: I wanted to hear about Travis Hunter. You know, would
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Speaker 5: that translate with that element of his games. I think
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Speaker 5: if he can do that, he can get open in
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Speaker 5: the NFL. And if he can get open, he can
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Speaker 5: make catches. He's that kind of playmaker. Brian Thomas Junior
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Speaker 5: looked to me like a guy who you know, was
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Speaker 5: great as a rookie and now now he's in the NFL. Man,
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Speaker 5: I mean like, now he knows how to get open.
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Speaker 5: Now he's impressive. He looks like he's gonna be dominant
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Speaker 5: moving forward. And Downy Brown looked really fast. So all
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Speaker 5: I cared about was sort of seeing some traits, because
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Speaker 5: that's all that's all you look for. If you're trying
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Speaker 5: to evaluate on this, you're missing the boat.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's some things that you're looking for
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Speaker 6: when you first see them. In OTA's one, you got
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Speaker 6: a new coaching staff, so you're trying to get a
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Speaker 6: feel for how the team looks as a casual. You're
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Speaker 6: trying to say, man, do they look organized and structured?
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Speaker 6: Does it appear to be that this is a group
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Speaker 6: that is paying attention to detail those things just from
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Speaker 6: a structural standpoint, new coaching staff, a bunch of young
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Speaker 6: coaches trying to figure it out, so like, how does
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Speaker 6: that look. Then you're beginning to assess the overall feel
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Speaker 6: of the team. Do you like to speed, the athleticism,
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Speaker 6: how do they look physically, are they big? Do they
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Speaker 6: appear to be an imposing type team compared to in
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Speaker 6: the past, And then you're beginning to look at how
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Speaker 6: they're going through what they're being asked to do. So
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Speaker 6: people have really spent a lot of time talking about
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Speaker 6: the wide receivers and how fast they are they getting
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Speaker 6: in and.
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Speaker 4: Out of the cuts and all of that.
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Speaker 6: You're just trying to make sure that there aren't any
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Speaker 6: glaring red flags that pop up doing this part of
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Speaker 6: the off season. We can talk about a it's a
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Speaker 6: scriptive practice in those things and it doesn't matter, it doesn't,
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Speaker 6: but you just want to make sure that doing these
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Speaker 6: things that don't matter, we at least look like we
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Speaker 6: know what we're doing and we're doing it very very fast.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I think what is annually forgotten from fans is, uh,
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Speaker 5: this is when they practice and they are putting in
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Speaker 5: a new system where yes, they have done individual work
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Speaker 5: and some you know, some stuff on the field in
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Speaker 5: phase one, in phase two, but this week is the
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Speaker 5: first time that they these guys have run this offense
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Speaker 5: anything close to live. And this is the teaching time.
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Speaker 5: If you're not teaching right now, when are you teaching,
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Speaker 5: Because there's no time to teach in training camp anymore.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm exaggerating that, but to a point. You've
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Speaker 5: got to sort of be ready to go because you're
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Speaker 5: not working like you used to in training camp. So
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Speaker 5: this is absolutely designed to teach and to be a classroom.
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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure you want a Trevor at the
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Speaker 5: end of OTAs to have completed eighty five percent with
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Speaker 5: like one interception, because then he's probably checking down every play, right.
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Speaker 3: So base ol Tooton's getting a lot of We've seen
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Speaker 3: that before around here.
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Speaker 6: We have seen that in you know, Johnny may Gray
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Speaker 6: point like we have new systems going in on both
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Speaker 6: sides of the ball, these special teams at stage of
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Speaker 6: saying because he remained as the coordinator, but offensively, yeah,
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Speaker 6: you are trying to learn something that's completely different than
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Speaker 6: the previous system.
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Speaker 4: The coach is also learning, you know.
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Speaker 6: It's one thing to draw these things up on papers,
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Speaker 6: another thing to begin to see how what they think
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Speaker 6: the team is going to be able to do is
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Speaker 6: executed by the players, and do you have to tweak
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Speaker 6: and adapt to the personnel that you have, particularly when
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Speaker 6: it comes to Trevor Lawrence. All of those things are
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Speaker 6: being played out in real time and dependent upon how
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Speaker 6: the coaching staff les to utilize this process where you're
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Speaker 6: pushing the envelope. You're trying to put as much in
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Speaker 6: as you can to see how the players learn and
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Speaker 6: retain while also doing they want to admit this some experimentation. Hey,
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Speaker 6: let's see what these concepts look like on the grass
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Speaker 6: against this defense. Let's get this on tape so we
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Speaker 6: can figure out do we like this. Do we like
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Speaker 6: it enough to install it in training camp and potentially
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Speaker 6: use it during the season, or we put it on
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Speaker 6: tape and then that we've seen it, it doesn't look
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Speaker 6: as good on the grass as it did on the whiteboard.
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Speaker 6: All of those things are going into play while also
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Speaker 6: teaching a bunch of players new fundamentals and new techniques
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Speaker 6: that are scheme specific so.
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Speaker 4: They can execute the jobs. When it comes to it.
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of stuff going on, and so we
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Speaker 6: shouldn't overreact to anything that we see. We'll have plenty
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Speaker 6: of time to make assessment, assessments and assertions. Once we
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Speaker 6: get into training camp, preseason games in the first part
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Speaker 6: of the.
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Speaker 3: Season, huddle up with the Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 3: Question and answer.
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Speaker 2: If you've never heard of John Ozure, that's what he does.
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Speaker 2: So one of I think it was today, I think
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Speaker 2: it was Wednesday. Somebody asked about toot and fumbling of football.
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Speaker 5: Well, yes they did, and that I was actually going
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Speaker 5: to bring up because I guess he's fumbled a little
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Speaker 5: in the past in college. I would say I'm worried
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Speaker 5: about it. But you know, fumbling on the first on
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Speaker 5: his first snap of OTAs, you don't want to be
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Speaker 5: that guy. So I'd be a little more concerned about
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Speaker 5: a fumble in OTAs and would an interception in OTAs.
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Speaker 5: And by concerned, I mean maybe it's a two on
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Speaker 5: a scale of one hundred, right, I mean, but you
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Speaker 5: don't want that to be a thing. So I'm not
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Speaker 5: worried about that. But if you continue to see fumbles
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Speaker 5: in practice over time, then you do worry about being
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Speaker 5: a thing. But I'm going to assume it's not what
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Speaker 5: this is right.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one of those things like you want to
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Speaker 6: make sure the ball security is there and it's only
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Speaker 6: going if you're putting the ball on the ground. Now,
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Speaker 6: you want to make the player aware of it because
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Speaker 6: coming from college to the pros, one of the biggest
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Speaker 6: difference is how defenders go hunt the ball in the
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Speaker 6: NFL game, it is a priority. Everyone talks about it
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Speaker 6: to peanut punch and the way they just rake at it.
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Speaker 6: You have to be tight with the ball, making sure
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Speaker 6: it's high and tight, and then you've got to be
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Speaker 6: aware of it like front of mind in traffic that
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Speaker 6: they're always going for it. But it's not something that
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Speaker 6: you should be overly concerned. It's a coaching point. It's
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Speaker 6: a teaching point. You can't expect a player to play
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Speaker 6: like a pro until they get into the pros. And
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Speaker 6: part of this part of the off season is the
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Speaker 6: transition from how you played in college to how you
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Speaker 6: expected to play as a pro. And so they're going
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Speaker 6: to be some bumps along the way and some things
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Speaker 6: that everybody has to learn, particularly with a new coaching
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Speaker 6: staff coming over implementing their own culture structure, expectations and standards.
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I saw on on Monday that
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Speaker 5: was really exciting and intriguing. Was I mentioned it at
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Speaker 5: the top, Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe all the receivers apply
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Speaker 5: to this, but really him, it looks to me like,
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Speaker 5: for the first time in a long time, Justin could
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Speaker 5: have been it and he never worked out here by Blackman,
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Speaker 5: But Brian Thomas Junior looks like a guy who is
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Speaker 5: always going to be open. And I'm exaggerating that, but
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Speaker 5: you know, when you watch Cincinnati Jamar Chase, you know
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Speaker 5: you know they can feed that guy the ball and
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Speaker 5: a lot of trust there. It'd be unusual if they
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Speaker 5: can't go to him. Travis Hunter looks like a guy
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Speaker 5: who's gonna be open a lot, and I think they've
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Speaker 5: got three or four guys. GM a long time ago
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Speaker 5: told me for a great quarterback, you need four guys
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Speaker 5: in the offensive system who you trust can beat a
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Speaker 5: single coverage and beat it badly that you can't leave
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Speaker 5: single covered. It looks like they're getting pretty close to
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Speaker 5: that here where if you leave a BTJ single covered,
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Speaker 5: you're gonna lose. It looks like Travis Hunter can be
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Speaker 5: that guy. I think Dianmi Brown looks like he's got
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Speaker 5: ways to beat you, so that that gets real interesting
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Speaker 5: because that's hard to get that high level combination. And
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Speaker 5: I kind of think Travis etn might fit in there, Bucky,
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Speaker 5: I mean it. Yeah, the skill guys on this offense
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Speaker 5: have gotten really interesting with the addition of Hunter and Brown.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: And one of the things that happens if you are
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Speaker 6: a team that wants to create explosive plays, speed is
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Speaker 6: the quickest.
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Speaker 4: Way to be able to accomplish that.
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Speaker 6: Because when you have a fast team, you can generate
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Speaker 6: those explosives in a few different ways. One, you can
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Speaker 6: throw it over the top of the defense too. You
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Speaker 6: can throw it on crossing routes and they can catch and.
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Speaker 4: Run and run past everybody.
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Speaker 6: Three, the space that is created by the threats on
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Speaker 6: the perimeter can create opportunities for the running game to
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Speaker 6: pop because now the defense is spread out. What it
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Speaker 6: appears that the Jaguars have made a concerted effort to
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Speaker 6: get faster and more explosive, and ultimately that's going to
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Speaker 6: make the game.
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Speaker 4: Easier for Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 6: When you are committed to Trevor Lawrence, like the Jaguars are,
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Speaker 6: and you're paying them the amount of money that you're
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Speaker 6: paying them. Everything is really about making him comfortable, making
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Speaker 6: the game easy for him so that his natural talents
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Speaker 6: can come through. So it's the supporting staff, the supporting casts,
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Speaker 6: the scheme, everything is designed to make sure that sixteen is.
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Speaker 4: Able to elevate his game.
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Speaker 6: And in a quarterback driven league, particularly in the AFC,
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Speaker 6: where the quarterbacks are locked and loaded and stacked, we
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Speaker 6: have to find a way to get Trevor Lawrence to
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Speaker 6: play an elite level and some of that might be
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Speaker 6: through the scheming and the personnel that has been put
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Speaker 6: in place.
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Speaker 3: The schedule is finally here.
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Speaker 3: That's John Oser, I'm JP Shadwick.
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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles. Yeah, well that
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Speaker 2: schedules out Bucky, since we talked, what do you think
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Speaker 2: like it?
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Speaker 4: Look, I like it. I won't go crazy and be like,
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Speaker 4: oh it's easy, it's hard, or whatever.
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Speaker 3: It is what it is.
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Speaker 6: I think the main thing that you're looking for very
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Speaker 6: early is can this team get out to a fast start.
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Speaker 6: It's been proven like research to tell you that the
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Speaker 6: first quarter of the season ultimately can determine whether you're
12:51
Speaker 6: going to be.
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Speaker 4: A playoff team or not.
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Speaker 6: And if you can race out to Gate to a
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Speaker 6: three and one or a four in our start, more
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Speaker 6: than likely you're going to be in the postseason. When
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Speaker 6: I look at the opening few games, like, there's an
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Speaker 6: opportunity at Jaguars play well to put themselves in a
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Speaker 6: position to be in the hunt when it matters down
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Speaker 6: the stretch. But it's gonna take them playing well. And
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Speaker 6: the thing about schedules, we never know what teams are
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Speaker 6: going to be like. But we know, look, man, the
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Speaker 6: Panthers coming out the Gate and the Bengals, it's gonna
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Speaker 6: be interesting playing them in the home opener with Jamar
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Speaker 6: Chase and T Higgins and those guys. And then you
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Speaker 6: got some interesting games coming under pipe with a Monday
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Speaker 6: night game in Kansas City at home. I mean, there's
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Speaker 6: some tough games, But look, you can't fear who's on
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Speaker 6: the slate. You got to go out and play and
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Speaker 6: so hopefully we hit the ground running, but we've got
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Speaker 6: to play well.
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Speaker 4: Out the gate.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting schedule because it's it can be
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Speaker 5: looked at multiple ways. I think it's a tough five
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Speaker 5: out of the box and even a tough seven out
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Speaker 5: of the box.
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Speaker 3: Ye.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. And you have Carolina, which had a losing record
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Speaker 5: last year, and then your only team out of the
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Speaker 5: next seven with a losing record last year with San
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Speaker 5: fran and they just don't feel like they sort of
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Speaker 5: feel like Cincinnati to me, like even if they have
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Speaker 5: a tough season, you feel like with what they are,
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Speaker 5: they're not gonna be bad coming out of the gate
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Speaker 5: the next year. So I think it's tough. And then
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Speaker 5: at the same time, you have five out of those
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Speaker 5: seven or home games. So this franchise, the people running
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Speaker 5: it believe that they're a lot better than they were
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Speaker 5: last year. So if you're if you're better than you
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Speaker 5: were last year, then you're about five hundred team, you know,
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Speaker 5: or maybe better. And if you're that level team, then
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Speaker 5: you're supposed to go take advantage of home games and
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Speaker 5: sort of stay afloat through this tough spot and be
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Speaker 5: ready to compete when it gets quote more manageable at
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Speaker 5: the end. So I guess that's kind of a long
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Speaker 5: witted way of saying. The most obvious thing was that
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Speaker 5: if if the Jaguars are good, this is a pretty
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Speaker 5: manageable schedule. If they're giving away games at the end
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Speaker 5: like they were last year, then you've got five or
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Speaker 5: six seven teams that all look like they're the on
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Speaker 5: a team that can take it from you if you
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Speaker 5: give it away. There's some teams that can't. But all
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Speaker 5: these teams look good enough that you know you've got
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Speaker 5: to play well. But if they're good, they're okay, So duh, right,
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Speaker 5: But I do think that's it. There's no gimmes early.
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Speaker 5: But if you're gonna make the playoffs, you got to
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Speaker 5: win more than just your gimmis.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you gotta win your games, you
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Speaker 6: gotta come out of it. And then really the important
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Speaker 6: part for me is funny, like we finished with the
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Speaker 6: same slate of teams that we always finished with.
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Speaker 4: We always kind of end up with Tennessee and Indianapolis
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Speaker 4: in some kind of order. The main thing that you
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Speaker 4: want to do year one new program.
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Speaker 6: You want to put yourself in a position where you
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Speaker 6: went when you get into December, you having a reasonable
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Speaker 6: opportunity to be able to get into the postseason, whatever
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Speaker 6: that looks like. You want to be playing your best
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Speaker 6: ball heading into December, new regime.
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Speaker 4: New thing, as they're ironing things out.
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Speaker 6: You just don't want to fall off the grid, and
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Speaker 6: then you would like to build some momentum. So there's
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Speaker 6: some opportunities for this team to build momentum down the stretch.
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Speaker 4: But I'll say this, particularly.
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Speaker 6: Coming off last year and even though the roster has
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Speaker 6: been flipped, a lot of it is going to be
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Speaker 6: how is this team going to handle the storm that
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Speaker 6: ultimately comes for every team If they have a bad
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Speaker 6: stretch where they lose two games in a row, potentially
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Speaker 6: three games in a row, do they have the wherewithal
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Speaker 6: to navigate their way through it and to get back
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Speaker 6: into the race. Last year we saw when they fell
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Speaker 6: off the wagon, they just couldn't They couldn't get up,
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Speaker 6: and the same could be said the previous year. Does
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Speaker 6: this team, over the course of training camp in the
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Speaker 6: early part of the season, can they develop enough chemistry
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Speaker 6: enough grit and resilience to be able to handle the
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Speaker 6: tough moments that happened for every team, whether it's champion
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Speaker 6: or not, it's coming. How do we navigate through it?
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Speaker 6: That will be the determining fact on how good we
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Speaker 6: will be this season. And it's Liam Cohen's first head
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Speaker 6: coaching gig. If he's going to have to manage and
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Speaker 6: handle some of this, We've seen Doug Peterson, right, try
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Speaker 6: to do that here, and he's been through the battles
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Speaker 6: before in the NFL. Not his first job here, but
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Speaker 6: Liam's gonna have to learn how to do that as well.
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Speaker 3: Job.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's really the when you talk
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Speaker 5: about culture change and changing the building and all that stuff,
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Speaker 5: I think that's what it is. There was something that
17:23
Speaker 5: happened in twenty three when they were eight and three
17:28
Speaker 5: and Trevor Christian Kirk got hurt and I hate to
17:30
Speaker 5: always go back to that, but that was just the
17:32
Speaker 5: theme and something happened where it felt to me like
17:39
Speaker 5: the team lost belief. They were a team that believed
17:41
Speaker 5: in itself into that eight and three start where they
17:45
Speaker 5: were winning games just gutty right, And I thought I
17:49
Speaker 5: wrote it often, I thought this was a team that
17:52
Speaker 5: sort of knows how to win. It's a tough, you know,
17:55
Speaker 5: kind of thing that all of a sudden just went
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Speaker 5: away seemingly in like one night, and it never quite
18:02
Speaker 5: came back last year. Now, I get everything's new, but
18:05
Speaker 5: we're still talking about the Jaguars and there's players who
18:07
Speaker 5: went through that. How how much does that feeling? And
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Speaker 5: I think we all felt at watching it where in
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Speaker 5: the last what twenty one twenty two games, there was
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Speaker 5: always an oh, here we go again. We're like, hey, yeah,
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Speaker 5: have it thro other third quarters? Like, well, I can
18:26
Speaker 5: start writing, you know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, so.
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Speaker 5: The culture change to me is how much do these players,
18:34
Speaker 5: like Bucky said, when something bad happens, how much do
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Speaker 5: they believe that this isn't we are no longer what
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Speaker 5: we were. And we'll find that out in week two
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Speaker 5: or three or you know, at some point we'll find
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Speaker 5: out the answer that question. You don't find it out
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Speaker 5: at twelve thirty on May nineteenth.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny, John, because I'm gonna say this. I'm
19:03
Speaker 6: gonna say, like, I'm really impacted by last year, because
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Speaker 6: I felt like last year we heard all of the
19:08
Speaker 6: things and I don't want to live in the past.
19:10
Speaker 6: But I think it's really telling because all summer, all
19:14
Speaker 6: training camp, we heard about the it's the toughest, grittier team.
19:18
Speaker 6: This is the hardest training camp that we've ever had.
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Speaker 4: The team.
19:23
Speaker 6: Attack other teams, other teams have talked about how hard
19:27
Speaker 6: the training camp was, et cetera, et cetera. And then
19:30
Speaker 6: at the first moment of adversity the Miami game, we
19:34
Speaker 6: fall apart and we never put it back together, and
19:37
Speaker 6: and and so it's not the words, it's the actions.
19:41
Speaker 6: And look it, it's unfair depend this on Liam Cohn
19:45
Speaker 6: and those guys.
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Speaker 4: To clean up the messes.
19:47
Speaker 3: But that's a job.
19:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot, a lot of what we will.
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Speaker 6: See and observe is how does he prepare this team
19:56
Speaker 6: for the hard moments that are going to happen. And
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Speaker 6: I think, yeah, that'll determine if we're able to get
20:03
Speaker 6: to the other side and be the team that we
20:05
Speaker 6: all want.
20:06
Speaker 4: To see this team be.
20:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, not to belabor the point, but Travis is fumble
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Speaker 5: Week one.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's what started and.
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Speaker 4: Game.
20:15
Speaker 3: They still had the lead, but they finished the game.
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Speaker 5: My point with that being in the next three, three
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Speaker 5: or four weeks Travis got a lot of questions handled
20:23
Speaker 5: it well, a lot of blame from people, Oh, if
20:26
Speaker 5: he hadn't fumbled, they loose. Well, to me, that was
20:30
Speaker 5: not it. I mean, yes, Travis can't fumble there, but
20:34
Speaker 5: that wasn't That loss wasn't on him. You had a lead. Uh,
20:39
Speaker 5: it was indicative what happens this year when that happens,
20:43
Speaker 5: when there's a fumble inevitably, what does the defense do
20:46
Speaker 5: or vice versa, and do.
20:48
Speaker 3: They cover the deep over by the safety.
20:50
Speaker 5: Well or still go in the darn game? Even if
20:54
Speaker 5: those two events have you don't feel deflated. You'll know
20:58
Speaker 5: on the sidelines, Bucket more than I will on the
21:00
Speaker 5: press box, probably be a lot more comfortable to you.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, all of it, all of it, all of it
21:03
Speaker 6: will will will matter, Like I believe that's the part
21:07
Speaker 6: that you have to work through.
21:09
Speaker 4: You got to build up the mentality, you have to
21:12
Speaker 4: navigate through it. I think it helps sometimes.
21:15
Speaker 6: When you flip the roster like you flip because a
21:17
Speaker 6: lot of those guys don't have the residual of what
21:19
Speaker 6: took place, like the previous.
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Speaker 4: Couple of years.
21:21
Speaker 6: When it comes to losing, because when you lose at all,
21:24
Speaker 6: snowballs at all compounds and does those things. But here's
21:29
Speaker 6: what I say, and I don't want to continue to
21:31
Speaker 6: link this team to the Rams, but I will say
21:32
Speaker 6: we saw the Rams in the last two years start
21:34
Speaker 6: out one and.
21:34
Speaker 4: Four and they've been able to bounce back.
21:37
Speaker 6: Now, Liam was away, it was with Tampa last year,
21:40
Speaker 6: but lasst One certainly was there and he certainly understands
21:44
Speaker 6: that the nature and how the team and the conversations
21:47
Speaker 6: that took place to help the team get out of it.
21:49
Speaker 4: To me, that would be the biggest part of training camp.
21:54
Speaker 4: When we're looking at training.
21:55
Speaker 6: Camp and we're watching practice due way, are the coaches
21:58
Speaker 6: deliberately creating at first situation so the team can navigate
22:02
Speaker 6: their way through it and how they get out of
22:04
Speaker 6: it and can they build confidence with those things? How
22:07
Speaker 6: does Trevor Lawrence react have to throwing an interception and
22:10
Speaker 6: practice or in preseason, what does the team react to
22:14
Speaker 6: We have to teach the team how to work through
22:17
Speaker 6: those things and look, ultimately, how will they learn those
22:20
Speaker 6: lessons in training camp will help them when they get
22:22
Speaker 6: to the regular season.
22:24
Speaker 5: I think one storyline here that again we won't know
22:26
Speaker 5: until the season, but you know, I do think there's
22:30
Speaker 5: a possibility that the rookies, particularly Travis Hunter, him being
22:40
Speaker 5: sort I think he will quickly become one of the
22:43
Speaker 5: identity pieces on this team and maybe even come to
22:48
Speaker 5: define the team just because of his personality. And I
22:52
Speaker 5: sort of wonder, Bucky, you know, this is a kid
22:54
Speaker 5: who's used to success. He's not sort of rooted in
22:58
Speaker 5: the past here.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 5: And the fact that Gladstone sort of likes and the
23:04
Speaker 5: team is encouraging young players to play, if that could
23:07
Speaker 5: help in Hey, you know, we believe we're good. We
23:12
Speaker 5: don't have a frame of reference for not being good.
23:16
Speaker 5: The young kids, the children could lead them, if you will,
23:20
Speaker 5: in terms of the spirit, in terms of the makeup
23:22
Speaker 5: of the team, I think that it could be a positive.
23:25
Speaker 5: I usually and JP's laughing at me because he knows
23:28
Speaker 5: I hate rookies.
23:29
Speaker 4: But.
23:31
Speaker 5: They can't lead. They're just kids. They don't know what
23:36
Speaker 5: they're doing. But in this case, if you're if you're
23:41
Speaker 5: leaning into that, as James Gladstone likes to say, if
23:44
Speaker 5: you're leaning into the to the youth, they could help
23:47
Speaker 5: you change the culture if you have success early. I think,
23:51
Speaker 5: and yes I do dislike works, but that look that that.
23:55
Speaker 4: Is a big part of the thing.
23:57
Speaker 6: That's why when we talk about like in its funny
23:59
Speaker 6: as Joe in terms of intangibly rich, but that is
24:03
Speaker 6: a big reason why when you're scouting players and you're
24:06
Speaker 6: selecting players, you want them to come from winning programs
24:08
Speaker 6: because that winning is a big part of their DNA.
24:11
Speaker 6: They also understand the sacrifice that's necessary to win. You
24:15
Speaker 6: want people who when they step onto the field, winning
24:18
Speaker 6: is important to them and they're willing to do whatever
24:21
Speaker 6: it takes to win. That's the best way and the
24:24
Speaker 6: quickest way to flip the program. You get a bunch
24:25
Speaker 6: of winners together, you give them a solid plan, and
24:28
Speaker 6: then you let them go do what they've always done,
24:30
Speaker 6: which is when well.
24:32
Speaker 2: The dailies play schedule for the spring. In the summer
24:35
Speaker 2: is rolling along coming up May thirty first, Kodak Black
24:38
Speaker 2: is in for Tea Pain June second, sticks Kevin Cronin,
24:42
Speaker 2: Don Felder Old Dominion June sixth. Later in the summer,
24:45
Speaker 2: two nights of Shania Twain July twenty ninth and thirtieth.
24:49
Speaker 2: They've added a Rob Thomas show August second as well.
24:54
Speaker 2: Shanaia is fifty nine years old, you can still bring
24:58
Speaker 2: the heat, Bucky, that's for sure.
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Speaker 4: That's okay like that, I mean, like Mike demographic, I'm
25:03
Speaker 4: okay with.
25:03
Speaker 5: That Big Time Rush rolling in here too.
25:05
Speaker 3: J don't leave them out. That's July fifteenth.
25:09
Speaker 4: That's uh.
25:10
Speaker 5: I still give my son major grief for watching Big
25:14
Speaker 5: Time Rush when he was a kid.
25:16
Speaker 2: Tickets for him if he wants to go to Dailyesplace
25:20
Speaker 2: dot com, and I get to show information about the
25:23
Speaker 2: spring and summer there.
25:24
Speaker 3: We've got a happy hour radio tomorrow at four.
25:27
Speaker 2: Jeff Loghman will be in Austin Lane scheduled to come
25:30
Speaker 2: in again as well.
25:32
Speaker 3: The Train we'll talk some ball.
25:36
Speaker 4: I like that. That's a nice little nickname, the A train.
25:39
Speaker 3: Is that taking somebody else's the A train, aren't they?
25:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, your name starts with an A.
25:47
Speaker 4: Running back from Michigan years ago. But we come on,
25:50
Speaker 4: we're beyond that. Anthony Thomas I think was his name.
25:53
Speaker 4: We can we can snack, we can, we can we
25:55
Speaker 4: can snatched that nickname away from.
25:57
Speaker 3: What was your nickname, Bucky?
25:59
Speaker 4: Bucky. Sorry I did disappoint, but yeah, that was the nickname.
26:09
Speaker 4: That's that's what it is, what it is.
26:13
Speaker 3: Well, let's do it again next week, Fellas.
26:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, that man a lot of fun. Like more O
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Speaker 4: T A s.
26:19
Speaker 3: Are you coming down? You should come down?
26:22
Speaker 4: I am. I'm coming down next week. I'm watching a
26:24
Speaker 4: couple I'm gonna take in.
26:25
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take in a couple of O t A
26:26
Speaker 6: practices and be there with my notebook, charting everything, making
26:30
Speaker 6: sure that I know what's going.
26:31
Speaker 3: On, putting the clips and highlight clips on X.
26:34
Speaker 5: And you can tell me next week definitively whether the
26:38
Speaker 5: defense is ahead of the office.
26:42
Speaker 4: I can tell you right now.
26:43
Speaker 6: I'm reluctant to jump all in on the defense just
26:45
Speaker 6: because of after last year. I have a PTSD with
26:49
Speaker 6: the tack and all the other stuff, so I'm gonna have.
26:52
Speaker 4: To take a little more conservative take.
26:54
Speaker 5: That's fair.
26:54
Speaker 4: That's fair.
26:55
Speaker 5: It's time to time to dial it back a bit.
26:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, time to do that. Yeah all right, Bucky, Yeah, uh,
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Speaker 3: safe travels, but don't see you before next week.
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Speaker 4: It should be fun.
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Speaker 3: I Gocky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: Out of here, John Ozier, I'm J. P. Shattucker. Thanks
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