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THE END OF HOLLYWOOD | JAY WEIDNER · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's going really good. That's international now anybody can
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Speaker 2: watch it from anywhere on Earth through Vimeo. So anyway,
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Speaker 2: how you doing, writer.
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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, and I'm glad that the movie is
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Speaker 3: up on Vimeo because there's been a lot of people
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Speaker 3: that's asked us that, you know, aren't in the United States.
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Speaker 3: It's not in the UK because it's available on Amazon
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Speaker 3: in the United States and in the UK, but not
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Speaker 3: So now it's up, it's on I got the link
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Speaker 3: pinned in the chat and also the link is in
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Speaker 3: the description. We have a really interesting comment here because
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Speaker 3: I've been seeing a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: Talk about well, first off.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people about mk ultra m culture has
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Speaker 3: kind of been put into the zeitgeist a lot. A
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Speaker 3: lot more people have been talking about it here recently.
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Speaker 3: And also it seems like there's been like a Kubrick resurgence.
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Speaker 3: Have you been seeing that going on?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of younger people that are
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Speaker 2: suddenly discovering Kubrick and making youtubes and it's all very
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Speaker 2: interesting and we have some pretty interesting insights. So I
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Speaker 2: was thinking, you know, the first first wave, of course
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Speaker 2: is Kubic films. The second wave started right after he
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Speaker 2: died with it essay that I wrote called Alchemical Kubric
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Speaker 2: which was written read by about ten million people and
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Speaker 2: actually became my second Kubric Honyssey film. And then there
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Speaker 2: was kind of a lull for a while, and then
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Speaker 2: around two thousand and nine and another wave started up.
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Speaker 2: So it's like every ten years the wave starts up again.
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Speaker 2: And then there was another lull, and now there's a
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Speaker 2: we're back to people being interested in the works of
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Speaker 2: Stanley Kubrick again, which is great, and you know, we
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Speaker 2: definitely had something to do with it with this film.
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Speaker 3: I agree, And I've seen a lot of stuff on
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Speaker 3: is Wide Shut as of lately, as of recently Space
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Speaker 3: and Angel. You're asked if was Cubriic murdered because of
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Speaker 3: Ice White Shut or something earlier in his career. Do
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Speaker 3: you have any thoughts on that?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually the guy who sort of broke that story.
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Speaker 2: I got a all an anonymous call after I had written
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Speaker 2: the Alchemical kubric article. Cubrick had just died, and I
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Speaker 2: wrote it like right around the time that Icewhite Hut
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Speaker 2: came out, and I got a lot of criticism like
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Speaker 2: Kubrick wasn't into occult and Kubrick wasn't into esoteric. Why
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Speaker 2: are you saying all this crap? And then Eyes White
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Speaker 2: Hut came out or just shut up? Just shut them
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Speaker 2: all up. So I got a call from a guy
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Speaker 2: and I checked him out and everything, and the anonymous call,
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Speaker 2: he wouldn't tell me who he was. I've told the
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Speaker 2: story before, and he told me that there was a
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Speaker 2: giant a meeting in London where they showed the film
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Speaker 2: to the Warner brothers executives, and they hated it and
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Speaker 2: there's a huge argument. And then five days later Kubrick
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Speaker 2: died and I don't know, you know, he wasn't he
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Speaker 2: did take up cigarette smoking again that my don't know.
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Speaker 2: And directing is really hard physically, especially when you're seventy
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Speaker 2: years old. But at the same time, it is awfully strange,
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Speaker 2: and it's awfully strange that there's so many continuitiars and eyes,
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Speaker 2: white shutt nudiers that Kubrick would never do. And so
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Speaker 2: the filmmakers that have watched the film, I'm not alone.
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Speaker 2: I forget the guy who's name he was on. Joe
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Speaker 2: Rogan recently saying the same thing as I'm saying that
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Speaker 2: he thinks that he was killed and and for the
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Speaker 2: and he also thinks that the film was re edited
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Speaker 2: because there's just this it's just not a kubric edage
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Speaker 2: of it's it's it's clunky and chunky, and uh, there's
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Speaker 2: continuitiers up the ying yang and for no apparent reason,
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Speaker 2: like a car is coming down the road and it
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Speaker 2: never goes by. On the next shot, right, they're like,
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Speaker 2: what happened? Car disappeared? And so I suspect that it
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Speaker 2: probably was. It's the interesting thing about his death. This
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Speaker 2: one will really flow you. Is it happened exactly six
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six days before January first, two thousand
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Speaker 2: and one, the first day of this most famous movie.
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Speaker 2: And here's one that really gets you. Six hundred and
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Speaker 2: sixty six days before Kubrick died, that computer finally beat
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Speaker 2: the chess champion. I forget the name of the chess
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Speaker 2: champion now, but for the first time a computer beat
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Speaker 2: a chess champion in a game of chess. And of course,
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Speaker 2: Kubrick was a huge chess player, chess fan, and you know,
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Speaker 2: even has playing chess in two thousand and one and
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Speaker 2: all that, and so you know, it's strange, and it
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Speaker 2: makes me think in some ways that he faked his death.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I just want coincidences, and that's
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Speaker 2: two huge coincidences. So I don't know, you know, I
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Speaker 2: had a friend, a really good friend who you know,
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Speaker 2: speculating that kubric directed nine to eleven right, And because
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Speaker 2: in the in the complex of the World Trade Center
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, a building was finished and
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Speaker 2: it was exact like the Monolith in two thousand and one,
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Speaker 2: and it was finished in early two thousand and one.
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Speaker 2: He did not get destroyed in the takedown, but I
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Speaker 2: think it's even still there. No, No, they took them
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Speaker 2: all down and rebuild it. That's right, But you know,
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Speaker 2: that's not very much evidence for anything. But still curious
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Speaker 2: that they would name, you know, that they would make
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Speaker 2: a building that looked just like the Black Monolith and
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Speaker 2: finish it in early two thousand and one, and the
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Speaker 2: year that the of course, the World Trade Centers went
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Speaker 2: down was two thousand and one. There's also another interesting
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Speaker 2: thing which I've talked about a little bit before, but
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Speaker 2: not much. Both mel Brooks and Stanley Kubrick lived in
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Speaker 2: the village in New York in the fifties. They probably
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Speaker 2: knew each other, both Jewish, they're both were filmmakers, they
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Speaker 2: both lived in the village. Highly unlikely they didn't know
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Speaker 2: each other. That aside. There's a nineteen sixty six Get Smart,
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Speaker 2: which is a show on TV directed and produced by
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Speaker 2: Mill Brooks, and this one is called The Walls of
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Speaker 2: Jericho Come Tumbling Down. And in this show, Maxwell Smart,
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Speaker 2: who's a secret agent, gets They discover that every time
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Speaker 2: this company builds a building, it falls apart, just crumbles
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Speaker 2: into its own footprint. And so they hire Maxwell to
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Speaker 2: go into the construction site of this new building that's
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Speaker 2: being built called the Odyssey, which is going to house
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Speaker 2: the Space program. And so it's very important that Max
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Speaker 2: find out what's going on with this building so it
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Speaker 2: doesn't fall apart after it gets done being built. Well,
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Speaker 2: Max finds the plans and he has a shoe phone,
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Speaker 2: famous shoe phone, and he calls up the chiefs Chase,
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Speaker 2: I think I've discovered what's going on, and he says,
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Speaker 2: what is it? He says, they're putting the bomb in
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Speaker 2: the building while it's being built, right, And that was
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Speaker 2: the big climax of the show and everything. And and
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Speaker 2: Freeman Fry, another good friend of mine, who I don't
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Speaker 2: know where he is these days. He used to be
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Speaker 2: a good conspiracy theorist. He actually interviewed the sub architect,
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Speaker 2: not the top architect of the World Trade Center he's dead,
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Speaker 2: but the guy that worked right below him. And in
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Speaker 2: the interview with Freeman Fry, he says, oh, no, we
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Speaker 2: put the We put the plastic in the building well
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Speaker 2: as being built because we knew it'd be so hard
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Speaker 2: when the day came when the building had to come down.
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Speaker 2: It'd be so hard to wire it that we just
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Speaker 2: wired it up as we built it. Wow. Yeah, So
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Speaker 2: there's a weird thing, the Odyssey. He called the building
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Speaker 2: the Odyssey in this Maxwell Smart show, and there was
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Speaker 2: building coming down. It housed the space program. Kubrick's working
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Speaker 2: on two thousand and one Space Odyssey at the same
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Speaker 2: exact time he's shooting it over in London. He's just
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Speaker 2: it's so those weird incidences that I just just gnaw
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Speaker 2: at me all the time.
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Speaker 3: And Christopher Nolan's new film is going to be called
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Speaker 3: The Odyssey.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Intertellar, of course, was his homage to Stanley Kubrick.
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Speaker 2: The robots took like the Black Modelists. The teacher tells
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Speaker 2: Matthew mcconnie that we never really went to the moon.
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Speaker 2: And the whole thing is this homage to two thousand
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Speaker 2: and one but also to all of the works of
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Speaker 2: Stanley Kubrick. And it's probably one of Nolan's more interesting films.
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Speaker 3: I agree. And that's wild about the World Trade Center
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Speaker 3: and all that, because there was a lot of stuff
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Speaker 3: with nine to eleven that was super sketchy. Wasn't there
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Speaker 3: a college art project or something that had to do
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Speaker 3: with dummies that was going on at that exact same time,
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Speaker 3: and they were throwing dummies out out of the wind.
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Speaker 2: It was Israeli art students who were on i think
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Speaker 2: the floor where the second airplane hit, floor ninety seven.
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Speaker 2: I think it's spent a while since I've looked into this,
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Speaker 2: but they were Their art project, which was a very
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Speaker 2: strange art project, was to take a window out of
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Speaker 2: the World Trade Center, put a candle lever out the window,
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Speaker 2: and then take dummies and throw them out the window
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Speaker 2: and film it, right, so people falling from the World
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Speaker 2: Trade Center. That was the art project. And what's really
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Speaker 2: interesting about that is that there is a picture of
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Speaker 2: these six or seven art students and they're in the
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Speaker 2: World Trade Center and their little art complex, and it's
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Speaker 2: completely bare the floor except from the very back. You
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Speaker 2: see a stack of boxes, right, and the boxes all
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Speaker 2: have number of one number. I can't remember the number,
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Speaker 2: some number like a six digit number. All the boxes
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Speaker 2: have the same number on it. So, you know, I
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Speaker 2: saw the picture, and you know, I zoomed in, I
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Speaker 2: saw the numbers on the box, and I went to
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Speaker 2: Google and I just just typed in the number I
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Speaker 2: didn't do anything else. I just typed in that number
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Speaker 2: and hit And he says, this is the government's code
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Speaker 2: for plastic explosives. Like what what you know? So I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. And it's just weird that
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Speaker 2: just happens to be the floor. I think that the
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Speaker 2: plane hit too, So you know, you got a wonder,
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Speaker 2: because you really, guys got a wonder. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: just such such a theater that just you know, I
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Speaker 2: just don't know. But anyway, there's rare. The art students
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Speaker 2: are now safely back in Israel, so they're saying, don't
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Speaker 2: worry about it.
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Speaker 3: Oh, thank goodness, thank goodness, we got them back in Okay.
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Speaker 3: Chloe thinks, so much for becoming a Channel member. Really
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Speaker 3: appreciates your support of the show. So what do you
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Speaker 3: think with the eyes White shot? Because it said that
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Speaker 3: he showed this viewing to these people, like the some
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Speaker 3: of the executives and like the actors and like Tom
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Speaker 3: Cruise and a few of the people. He had a
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Speaker 3: probably a private screening in London with these people. And
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Speaker 3: now people are seeing that the end of the movie
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Speaker 3: was changed or something was edited out of the end
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Speaker 3: of the movie. Is there any way to confirm that
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Speaker 3: there's I mean, we have it in our movie The
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Speaker 3: Shining that you know, there's an entire whole other ending
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Speaker 3: to The Shining that Kubrick caught out. But this wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have been if Kubrick's doing. This would have been of
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Speaker 3: the studio or somebody that was higher up that went
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Speaker 3: in and chopped out some of the stuff to do
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Speaker 3: with eyes white shot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I don't know if he changed the ending.
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Speaker 2: The ending is one thing that actually makes sense in
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Speaker 2: the movie, but it's there's like slots taken out where
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Speaker 2: there's clearly something happened in between the two edits, but
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Speaker 2: you don't don't really know what happened. And then you know,
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Speaker 2: there's the whole sequence where Nicole Kidman has the dream,
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Speaker 2: and the dream is she's at this orgy and they're
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Speaker 2: all having sex, and then they start laughing at Tom
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Speaker 2: Cruise right, and you're like, well, what's he trying to
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Speaker 2: say here? And then there's other problems like there's thirteen
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Speaker 2: a coven which is coven or a Satanic coven has
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Speaker 2: thirteen members, there's twelve, and then the center person and
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Speaker 2: in the orgy scenes before the orgy scenes, there's a coven,
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Speaker 2: a meeting of a coven, and in the coven there's
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Speaker 2: only eleven women and the single guy, so there's a
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Speaker 2: one person missing. And so you have to wonder if
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Speaker 2: the whole opening scene where Nicole is dancing with the Hungarian,
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Speaker 2: if that isn't like her being seduced into this satanic cult, right?
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Speaker 2: And Eyes Wait Shut is so interesting because everybody in
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Speaker 2: Eyes Wide Shut knows that they're in a cult, except
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Speaker 2: for Tom Cruise. Even Nicole Kidman knows that she's in
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Speaker 2: a cult, so they're all in a cult, only he
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Speaker 2: doesn't know about it, and the whole movie is him
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Speaker 2: wandering from one aspect of the occult to the next
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Speaker 2: aspect of the cult until he's finally told by Sidney
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Speaker 2: Pollock at the end, we're in a cult and you
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Speaker 2: don't know it, right, And so it's really really, really
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Speaker 2: very interesting. And you know, as a film, because it
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Speaker 2: wasn't edited in Kubrick's magnificent style, it falls a little flat,
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Speaker 2: I think, and a lot of people couldn't understand it,
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Speaker 2: and they kind of just poo pooed it and went away.
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Speaker 2: But it's still a curic film. So it's still got
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Speaker 2: a lot of greatness in it. And you know, I
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Speaker 2: personally believe that Tom Cruise became a really great actor
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Speaker 2: after that. All of his movies before that, he's a
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Speaker 2: little flat, a little and maybe even a little insincere.
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Speaker 2: But after that, every movie he made he was actually
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Speaker 2: a good actor. And I think he got that from
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Speaker 2: working with the Master.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an interview that I watched of him when
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Speaker 3: I was making the movie where he was like crying
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Speaker 3: because Kubrick died.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm saying that Nicole too. Yeah, And and
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Speaker 2: then there's a famous quote that Nicole Kidman tells everybody
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Speaker 2: that Ubrick was on the set with her one day
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Speaker 2: and he said, the most dangerous people in the world
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Speaker 2: are the pedophiles. You're like, what, you know, what are
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Speaker 2: you talking about? And here's the thing. When Tom and
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Speaker 2: Nicole go to the party at the beginning of the movie,
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Speaker 2: there's these two guys at the party, right, and we
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Speaker 2: now know, of course, everybody at the party's in the cult,
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Speaker 2: right except for Tom Cruise. And there's two guys and
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Speaker 2: there's just kind of in the background talking and everything,
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Speaker 2: and he looks like a throwaway scene and then at
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Speaker 2: the very end of the movie, they're at Macy's. It's
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Speaker 2: Christmas time and they're with their daughter, and the daughter's
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Speaker 2: wandering through the eerie teddy bears that are working over
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Speaker 2: her in the aisle. Credible shot actually, and Nicole and
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Speaker 2: Tom are having their conversation. But if you watch very carefully,
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Speaker 2: at the very end of this hallway or whatever of toys,
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Speaker 2: those two guys are there waiting and they're looking at
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Speaker 2: the little girl. So you really got to wonder what's
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Speaker 2: going on. If they're in the cult, and they are,
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Speaker 2: then you know what's going on here, and you know.
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Speaker 2: So it was really a warning and it came in
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Speaker 2: an interesting time too. Nineteen ninety nine was the year
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Speaker 2: The Matrix came out, and a year before that, get
18:47
Speaker 2: the name of the movie, A Dark City came out.
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Speaker 2: So these three movies all came out within a year
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Speaker 2: and a half of each other, and all three movies
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Speaker 2: are about a guy who doesn't know that he's surrounded
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Speaker 2: by a cult or a matrix, right, and it's his
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Speaker 2: discovery of it. And also The Truman Show came out
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Speaker 2: at the same time. The Truman Show is it's a
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Speaker 2: guy who doesn't know that he's in this thing, this reality.
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Speaker 2: He thinks it's another kind of reality, and the movie,
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Speaker 2: all four movies take you through this person, the protagonist,
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Speaker 2: discovery that he's not living in a real world, that
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Speaker 2: the world all around him is fake. And it's interesting
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Speaker 2: that it happened just at the end of the nineties,
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Speaker 2: that these four movies were made, and that you know,
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Speaker 2: the Matrix gets, you know, all the praise, but personally,
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Speaker 2: I think Dark City is a better movie than The Matrix,
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Speaker 2: and I think Eyes White Shut would have been the
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Speaker 2: best of them if Kubrick had been left to finish
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Speaker 2: it himself.
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Speaker 3: There was another movie that came out that had Christian
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Speaker 3: Bill and I think it came out around the time
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Speaker 3: that The Matrix came out, and it was kind of
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Speaker 3: a overlooked I think it was called like Annihilation or
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Speaker 3: something along those lines, but it was very matrix asque
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Speaker 3: and it got completely overshadowed by the Matrix because I
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Speaker 3: think it might have came out before the Matrix.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a whole bunch of these gnostic oriented
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Speaker 2: movies that were coming out all at the same time,
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Speaker 2: and you know, it's just one of those weird waves
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Speaker 2: that happens in Hollywood, and it can't be because you
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Speaker 2: know you're working on It can't be that the Matrix
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Speaker 2: saw Dark City and then decided to remake it, because
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Speaker 2: you're making a movie for two or three years before
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Speaker 2: you shoot it, and so it only had a year before,
20:38
Speaker 2: you know, the Matrix came out, so they were almost
20:40
Speaker 2: done with it when Dark City came out. So you know,
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Speaker 2: it can't it has to be like some kind of zeitgeist.
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Speaker 2: In other words, it can't be like people copying each other.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure Kubrick wasn't copying anyone.
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Speaker 3: So it was equilibrium. Equilibrium was the name of the
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Speaker 3: Christian bill.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it was. It was actually a
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Speaker 2: really heady time in movies. We were still had a
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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of equilibrium. Yes, I do remember
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Speaker 2: that we still had a lot of freedom. The boomers
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Speaker 2: were starting to release control of the movie business finally
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Speaker 2: after twenty five years, and so these movies were made
21:22
Speaker 2: by like the Matrix was not. They weren't boomers, they
21:26
Speaker 2: were exers. And although the director of Truman Show was
21:32
Speaker 2: a boomer, Jim Carrey was an exer. So there was
21:36
Speaker 2: like this new blood coming into the movie business at
21:38
Speaker 2: that time, and I think I think you're actually seeing
21:41
Speaker 2: this happen again right now as the millennials are now
21:44
Speaker 2: moving into the movie business and they're not real happy
21:48
Speaker 2: with what they're finding. So I expect the revolution and
21:51
Speaker 2: movies over the next two years, a serious revolution.
21:55
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've been seeing that Hollywood's dead in
21:58
Speaker 3: every interview that I've done promoting our documentary, and it
22:02
Speaker 3: seems like it's la is basically all on fire, which
22:07
Speaker 3: is is really wild. And I did a show on
22:11
Speaker 3: it the other day and I was like, you know,
22:15
Speaker 3: we should probably be way more focused on, you know,
22:20
Speaker 3: other things other than you know, what the community is
22:23
Speaker 3: saying about it, Like, we should probably be more focused
22:25
Speaker 3: on you know, why the mayor was on vacation when
22:29
Speaker 3: this happened. You know, why weren't there any preventative measures
22:32
Speaker 3: taken by the mayor? Why or the governor Gavin Newsom?
22:36
Speaker 3: Why were the dams empty that would supply more water
22:39
Speaker 3: to fight the fires? Why why aren't we raking the
22:43
Speaker 3: forest in California? And also why was it reported that
22:48
Speaker 3: property insurance no longer covered fire insurance that reportedly happened
22:55
Speaker 3: a couple of months back. I mean, come on, give
22:57
Speaker 3: me a break. I mean, everyone knew that this thing,
23:00
Speaker 3: this was just a ticking time bomb that if it
23:03
Speaker 3: was if it goes up, there's literally nothing that they
23:05
Speaker 3: can do about it. But they could have taken a
23:07
Speaker 3: lot of preventative measures. And you know what happens. And
23:13
Speaker 3: there's only people that could, you know, ask these types
23:16
Speaker 3: of questions, right, they're they're distracted by a bunch of garbage.
23:21
Speaker 3: And I said the same thing about the line of fires,
23:24
Speaker 3: which everyone started screaming dw's and jumping to that conclusion.
23:31
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, before we jumped at the
23:33
Speaker 3: conclusion of dw's, we need to ask why was the
23:37
Speaker 3: water turned off? You know, why weren't the alarms raised?
23:43
Speaker 2: Rush was taken out in a Maui. They didn't remove
23:48
Speaker 2: the brush. Basic things. This is the thing you hire
23:53
Speaker 2: people to, your politicians. You hire them to cover the basics. Right, Yeah,
24:00
Speaker 2: they get lost in the weeds, but the basics. You know,
24:04
Speaker 2: your emergency people like rescue squads and police cars have
24:10
Speaker 2: to stay, you know, all fixed up and ready to go.
24:13
Speaker 2: Your fire departments be one hundred percent. You've got to
24:16
Speaker 2: have all the precautions taken for things that naturally happened
24:19
Speaker 2: in your area. Then you know, after you've taken care
24:22
Speaker 2: of all the basics, then you can go off and
24:24
Speaker 2: do your transsexual holidays and flags and stuff, and that's
24:28
Speaker 2: all great and everything. But if you're doing that and
24:31
Speaker 2: not taking care of the basics, that it doesn't massive fail,
24:34
Speaker 2: and there's no way around it. It's a massive fail.
24:37
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, especially in Palisades, because I lived in
24:42
Speaker 2: LA for years. That's almost where the entire movie business lives.
24:47
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all the gaffers and the lighting people
24:52
Speaker 2: and and the set designers, and you know, not not maybe,
24:57
Speaker 2: although a lot of big stars do live there, you know,
25:01
Speaker 2: but I don't know if the movie business is going
25:04
Speaker 2: to come back from this nightmare. They're not going to
25:07
Speaker 2: have these there's no way. Okay, it takes you five
25:11
Speaker 2: years to get a permit and to build a house
25:15
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles right now. Five years, So they start
25:18
Speaker 2: right now, it'll be what twenty thirty before they start
25:23
Speaker 2: breaking ground putting up the house. Okay, And Hollywood and
25:30
Speaker 2: California is about to turn red because they're going to
25:34
Speaker 2: find out how screwed up the bureacracy is in that state.
25:38
Speaker 2: And they're going to get really angry about it. So
25:40
Speaker 2: I wouldn't look for any houses being built, be honest
25:43
Speaker 2: with you. I would look for speculators and sharks to
25:48
Speaker 2: move in right now, offering you know, say two or
25:54
Speaker 2: three bucks on the buck on the property. So if
25:57
Speaker 2: it's worth you know, half a million, to off your
25:59
Speaker 2: one point at five million maybe right, to really make
26:02
Speaker 2: it juicy and to get you because that's cheap if
26:05
Speaker 2: you're black Rock, right, I mean, you can afford by
26:08
Speaker 2: all of the Palisades right for three times the price.
26:12
Speaker 2: So I think that's what's going to happen, and then
26:14
Speaker 2: Black Rocks just going to use all their money and
26:17
Speaker 2: build gigantic apartments. The whole entire Pacific Palisades, except for
26:21
Speaker 2: the houses that didn't burn down, are very likely to
26:24
Speaker 2: be replaced and look a lot like China look right now.
26:27
Speaker 2: So that's my biggest fear. And also I want to
26:31
Speaker 2: point out that the three places that the fire broke out,
26:35
Speaker 2: by the way, satellite imagery shows that all three buyers
26:39
Speaker 2: started at the same exact moment. You might want to
26:42
Speaker 2: link to that so people don't start calling me names
26:45
Speaker 2: and they're in the three poshious areas of Los Angeles.
26:51
Speaker 2: I mean it hasn't hit Beverly Hills yet, or it's
26:54
Speaker 2: just now near Brentwood. But I mean Malibu Passage and
27:01
Speaker 2: the Pacific Palisades just like some of the most valuable
27:04
Speaker 2: real estate on the entire planet. I mean, you got
27:07
Speaker 2: Mediterranean weather. It's beautiful there. I don't know, this is
27:14
Speaker 2: the biggest tragedy I've ever seen in my life, and
27:18
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever get over it.
27:20
Speaker 3: Well, this is CBS News says thousands of Los Angeles
27:23
Speaker 3: homeowners were dropped by their insurers before the Palisades fire.
27:28
Speaker 3: About sixteen hundred policies in the Pacific Palisades were dropped
27:32
Speaker 3: by State Farm in July. California Department of Insurance spokesman
27:37
Speaker 3: Michael Sohler said that Thursday email CBS money Watch. An
27:43
Speaker 3: analysis of insurance data by CBS San Francisco last year
27:47
Speaker 3: found that State Farm also dropped more than two thousand
27:52
Speaker 3: policies and two other Los Angeles zip codes, which included
27:58
Speaker 3: Brettwood and Calabasa hidden Hills in Montenegro neighborhoods. So, I mean,
28:05
Speaker 3: is what is going on? Like do they have like
28:08
Speaker 3: the foresight to know that oh wow, there's the giant fires.
28:11
Speaker 3: And I think that the speculation is that the reason
28:14
Speaker 3: that they dropped the fire insurance. I don't know why
28:17
Speaker 3: you would drop fire insurance in a place that like California.
28:20
Speaker 3: I mean, California's on fire all the time. Every year,
28:24
Speaker 3: there's some kind of fire going on in California. Sow.
28:27
Speaker 3: That would be the main thing that you would need
28:29
Speaker 3: if you lived in California, especially southern California, is you
28:33
Speaker 3: would want fire insurance on your head.
28:36
Speaker 2: You have to understand how business works, and the people
28:39
Speaker 2: that run the state do not understand that. They recently
28:42
Speaker 2: passed a law that said that they could not raise
28:46
Speaker 2: insurance and so insurance is all about risk assessment, right, right.
28:52
Speaker 2: So you got to a place and look at your
28:53
Speaker 2: house and say, well, you've got a hillside full of
28:55
Speaker 2: brush over here, we're going to really sock you with
28:58
Speaker 2: fire insurance or if you don't clean it up. And
29:01
Speaker 2: so California said you couldn't raise insurance rates anymore. Well,
29:06
Speaker 2: sure to stay in business very long if you can't
29:08
Speaker 2: adjust your race to whatever the risk assessment is. So
29:13
Speaker 2: California's being ruled by complete idiots. And I think the
29:19
Speaker 2: chickens will finally come home to roost and hopefully the
29:25
Speaker 2: state will recover and come back to common sense, which
29:29
Speaker 2: is what has to happen. We like the movie business,
29:32
Speaker 2: who want you to stay, And right now I've never
29:36
Speaker 2: seen it more rickety. They can't make a hit movie,
29:39
Speaker 2: they can't even do anything. And now the whole undercut,
29:44
Speaker 2: Their whole infrastructure has been undercut. We don't even know
29:49
Speaker 2: how many studios burned down. I mean, they're right in
29:52
Speaker 2: the path there.
29:54
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Biden has committed that he's going to use
29:58
Speaker 3: federal money for rebuild in la exactly what about North Carolina?
30:05
Speaker 3: What about Laona? What did they get in Lina? Seven
30:08
Speaker 3: hundred dollars or something like that. And now Biden's saying
30:11
Speaker 3: that he that he's going to use federal money to
30:13
Speaker 3: completely rebuild la It's a freaking joke. President Joe Biden
30:18
Speaker 3: has already valed that over the next six months, the
30:21
Speaker 3: federal government will pay one hundred percent. There is one
30:25
Speaker 3: hundred percent of disaster response calls connected to the wildfires
30:29
Speaker 3: ravaging southern California.
30:33
Speaker 2: It's insane.
30:34
Speaker 3: But what did they do about North Carolina? They didn't
30:36
Speaker 3: do I mean, the people in North Carolina are still struggling.
30:38
Speaker 3: That's still that's still going on, Like how long is
30:42
Speaker 3: it going to take to rebuild those parts of North Carolina?
30:45
Speaker 3: And then now he's just coming in saying, oh, well,
30:47
Speaker 3: we're going to completely rebuild LA. Don't worry about it, guys.
30:50
Speaker 3: We're going to use all of our federal money to
30:53
Speaker 3: completely rebuild LA.
30:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think that's going to happen under a
30:59
Speaker 2: Trump administration. He'll probably rescind that, or they'll make it
31:03
Speaker 2: very much many stipulations on that, but yeah, yeah, Biden's
31:08
Speaker 2: destroying the place on his way out the door. It's
31:10
Speaker 2: really kind of crazy. They talk about a peaceful transition. Well,
31:15
Speaker 2: oh god man, why don't you take your hands off
31:17
Speaker 2: the wheel for a minute and instead of wrecking everything?
31:20
Speaker 2: So we got we've got nothing but problems coming out
31:23
Speaker 2: us like a freight train. And so I don't know
31:27
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do about it. At least we have
31:29
Speaker 2: capable people in charge.
31:31
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, hopefully if we as long as we
31:37
Speaker 3: make it to the twentieth and people don't freak out
31:39
Speaker 3: about TikTok, and people are freaking out about TikTok and
31:43
Speaker 3: the TikTok ban.
31:45
Speaker 2: Kevin o'learry is going to buy it, he said. The
31:47
Speaker 2: deals almost through, so I think he'll he'll have it
31:50
Speaker 2: here within a day or two, so that would be good.
31:54
Speaker 3: Well, another thing that I found was not only was
31:59
Speaker 3: mayor out of town during this, but she also basically
32:04
Speaker 3: defunded the fire department. Did you see this? This is
32:10
Speaker 3: from the New York Post alamer Karen base Fire cut
32:13
Speaker 3: fire department funding by seventeen point six million, focused on
32:17
Speaker 3: homeless spending months before wildfire's turned city into hellscape. And
32:22
Speaker 3: this wasn't even what she like. That was the low
32:25
Speaker 3: ball number she actually if if she had her way.
32:29
Speaker 3: It says in this article from the New York Post
32:33
Speaker 3: that if she had her way, the LA Fire department
32:37
Speaker 3: budget would have been slashed by twenty three million. So
32:43
Speaker 3: let's not rake the forest. Let's not you know, have
32:47
Speaker 3: our dams full of water. Let's defund the fire department.
32:51
Speaker 3: And also let's make it to where insurance companies no
32:54
Speaker 3: longer cover fire insurance.
32:57
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, there's a law of coincidence, and generally,
33:02
Speaker 2: when you're doing investigation and you hit more than two coincidences,
33:07
Speaker 2: every alarm bell supposedly should be going off in you
33:11
Speaker 2: because that's just way too many coincidences. One is troubling enough,
33:15
Speaker 2: two it is really bad. But when you get six
33:18
Speaker 2: or seven coincidences, that's usually sign a follow play. So
33:23
Speaker 2: I know people don't want to hear it and all that,
33:26
Speaker 2: but you know, this has been going on for thousands
33:30
Speaker 2: of years. They've flushed people out of nice places using
33:35
Speaker 2: all sorts of you know, wars and all sorts of tactics,
33:39
Speaker 2: and they steal l and that's what's going on here, Ilily.
33:43
Speaker 2: I don't see how. I don't see how regular Joe
33:48
Speaker 2: is going to be able to afford to build a house.
33:51
Speaker 2: Though since those houses were built, you know, lumber prices
33:56
Speaker 2: you know, have gone up like five thousand percent, so
33:59
Speaker 2: you could it's really expensive to build a house right now.
34:02
Speaker 2: And so I just don't see it. I don't see it.
34:05
Speaker 2: California will make sure that it'll all turn into high rises,
34:09
Speaker 2: density packed in fifteen minute cities. I predicted they divide.
34:14
Speaker 2: They say that Los Angeles is too big a city
34:18
Speaker 2: to run the way it is, and they're going to
34:21
Speaker 2: break it up into fifteen minute cities. You know, probably
34:24
Speaker 2: about fifteen or twenty different fifteen minute cities, and then
34:28
Speaker 2: it's all going to be done, like right in front
34:30
Speaker 2: of our eyes, and there's not gonna be anything that
34:32
Speaker 2: we can do about it except make people know about it.
34:37
Speaker 3: Well, we were both just in LA filming for the
34:40
Speaker 3: documentary last year, and that.
34:45
Speaker 2: It was already it is accessible.
34:47
Speaker 3: It's just in total garbage. I don't understand how anybody
34:51
Speaker 3: could possibly live there.
34:54
Speaker 2: I I almost got it. I almost got mugged, as
34:58
Speaker 2: you know, in that motel out by the pool you
35:01
Speaker 2: were sleeping, and I was out there having my morning
35:03
Speaker 2: coffee and this guy kept glaring at me walking by,
35:07
Speaker 2: and I was like, holy, I better not be here.
35:10
Speaker 2: And I just ran into my hotel room and locked
35:12
Speaker 2: the door, and he came back looking for me. So
35:15
Speaker 2: you know, I was an easy rob. I'm sure he
35:18
Speaker 2: was a big guy too. And the LA just looked
35:24
Speaker 2: so seedy. I couldn't believe it. It was just a
35:26
Speaker 2: shock how much it had deteriorated since I'd been there last,
35:30
Speaker 2: which is maybe ten years earlier. So I feel sorry
35:34
Speaker 2: for LA. It's not their fault that they have crappy leaders,
35:37
Speaker 2: because I personally don't believe that their elections are real.
35:41
Speaker 2: I can hardly believe that Adam Schiff would have meet
35:45
Speaker 2: would have beaten Steve Garvey. Steve Garvey is like the
35:48
Speaker 2: biggest baseball hero in California. Everybody worshiped Steve Garvey, and
35:53
Speaker 2: he still got beat by this little weasel. So I
35:55
Speaker 2: don't know, looks it looks like it's fixed to me,
36:02
Speaker 2: one party stake fixing everything, and I don't know how
36:05
Speaker 2: you're gonna break it. Well.
36:08
Speaker 3: People are saying that these because I've talked to a
36:11
Speaker 3: few people that live in La and during like during
36:15
Speaker 3: this time, and they essentially are saying that this was
36:19
Speaker 3: like arson These were arsonists that started these fires. And
36:24
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what way they're going to spin
36:29
Speaker 3: this in what they're going to do, because if you remembering,
36:34
Speaker 3: I think it was the end of twenty twenty or
36:36
Speaker 3: maybe twenty twenty one, where pretty much the entire West
36:40
Speaker 3: Coast was all on fire, like all of California was
36:43
Speaker 3: on fire, Oregon was on fire up up into Washington,
36:47
Speaker 3: like I was living in southern California during that time,
36:49
Speaker 3: and you could walk out and it looked like a
36:51
Speaker 3: freaking healthscape. It looked like a nuclear bomb had went off.
36:55
Speaker 3: Like there was so much smoke that it locked out
37:00
Speaker 3: the sun, like you could stare directly at the sun
37:04
Speaker 3: and not hurt your eyes. It was the wildest thing.
37:07
Speaker 3: And it was like that for like three days. I
37:09
Speaker 3: was like, what is going on? This is super apocalyptic.
37:13
Speaker 3: And this was like at the end of twenty twenty
37:15
Speaker 3: or beginning of twenty twenty one. And they said that
37:20
Speaker 3: that fire was started because of a gender reveal party
37:26
Speaker 3: that went wrong and the firework you remember that.
37:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. Yeah, well, where I live. You know,
37:35
Speaker 2: it's quite beautiful where I live. But if I take
37:39
Speaker 2: my binoculars and I look up the fourteen thousand foot
37:43
Speaker 2: mountains that are here, and I look towards you know,
37:46
Speaker 2: around ten thousand feet, there's not a living tree. I mean,
37:49
Speaker 2: they're all dead, and there's tens of thousands of them.
37:53
Speaker 2: The BLM, the Bureau of Land Management, owns all that land,
37:56
Speaker 2: and they're not taking those trees down, and they're not
38:00
Speaker 2: tendering the forest or taking care of anything. They're letting
38:03
Speaker 2: it just sit there every year, just waiting for a
38:05
Speaker 2: lightning struck to hit and then we will be all
38:08
Speaker 2: burned out of here. And you know, then it's a
38:11
Speaker 2: nice place. So probably our little two and three bedroom
38:15
Speaker 2: houses will all be replaced by posh mansions and everything.
38:19
Speaker 2: And you know, it seems to be the plan to
38:22
Speaker 2: take every nice place and flush everybody out of it.
38:26
Speaker 2: Because you've got to remember, in the Pacific Palisades, a
38:29
Speaker 2: lot of those people are boomers. They bought those homes
38:31
Speaker 2: forty years ago for almost nothing, right, even even longer
38:37
Speaker 2: than that, for almost nothing, and those homes now are
38:40
Speaker 2: worth milt where they were. They're worth, you know, fifteen
38:44
Speaker 2: twenty times what those people bought it for. And so
38:47
Speaker 2: they're not selecting the property taxes that they should be
38:51
Speaker 2: tagged that they think they should be taking, right And
38:54
Speaker 2: because of Prop thirteen, although property taxes are frozen back
38:58
Speaker 2: when they built bought that house. So the state's not
39:03
Speaker 2: making anything off of any of this. And you know,
39:07
Speaker 2: did the state? I don't know. I can't wax. Alex
39:11
Speaker 2: Jones is going crazy right now saying that it's a
39:14
Speaker 2: giant conspiracy, saying that it's all done to take the
39:17
Speaker 2: land and rebuild the whole city. And I don't want
39:21
Speaker 2: to go that far, but it sure is suspicious and convenient,
39:25
Speaker 2: and you can just see how you could just literally
39:29
Speaker 2: make trillions of dollars off of this kind of deal.
39:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if something is you know, kind of already
39:37
Speaker 3: going down, like, would you not push it even further
39:40
Speaker 3: to make it go down quicker and then rebuild the
39:44
Speaker 3: entire thing? I mean exactly, It's a good strategy right there.
39:48
Speaker 3: But the Guardian is seeing that the fires were link
39:54
Speaker 3: possible link between New Year's fireworks, just saying that the
40:01
Speaker 3: fireworks the New Year's fireworks calls the polisades blaze.
40:08
Speaker 2: I see, like like a coal or something got burned
40:11
Speaker 2: up and then and then just stayed there burning and
40:14
Speaker 2: then the it's a slight chance that it could be,
40:17
Speaker 2: but pretty slight. I would say that there's no way
40:21
Speaker 2: that three pieces of coal from fireworks are going to
40:23
Speaker 2: start up and flare up at the same time. But
40:27
Speaker 2: you know they're doing it, and they're reworking the whole world.
40:31
Speaker 2: And we know by looking into the past, you know
40:35
Speaker 2: it passed photographs and things that there are parents who
40:38
Speaker 2: have been a reset of some kind in like the
40:40
Speaker 2: eighteen sixties in Europe and in the United States. And
40:44
Speaker 2: don't forget all through the eighteen hundreds leading up into
40:49
Speaker 2: the early twentieth century, the United States was hit by
40:53
Speaker 2: some of the most incredible fires that we've ever seen.
40:56
Speaker 2: The Chicago fire happened on the same day that the
41:01
Speaker 2: fire in I believe it was Wisconsin, and another one
41:05
Speaker 2: in Michigan started giant fires, fires that the people that
41:10
Speaker 2: lived through the fires said that it sounded like bombs
41:15
Speaker 2: going off and hurricane force winds, and they said that
41:19
Speaker 2: the fire wasn't on the ground, it was up in
41:21
Speaker 2: the sky, that the sky was on fire. And we
41:25
Speaker 2: still to this day don't know what caused those three
41:28
Speaker 2: fires to all erupt on the same moment on the
41:31
Speaker 2: same day. And they aren't close to each other. They
41:33
Speaker 2: are hundreds of miles apart, so it's not like it
41:36
Speaker 2: was like close by. And of course we know the
41:39
Speaker 2: Chicago fire man had burned down the entire city of Chicago.
41:44
Speaker 2: I mean, there wasn't anything left. And then you look
41:47
Speaker 2: at the San Francisco fire in nineteen oh five, and
41:54
Speaker 2: the buildings looked like they've been damaged from the outside,
41:58
Speaker 2: almost like they got or something. So a lot of
42:03
Speaker 2: mysterious things happened in the United States, and the eighteen
42:07
Speaker 2: hundreds of Philadelphia fire burned down all the Philadelphia Seattle
42:12
Speaker 2: fire burned down all of Seattle. It was quite amazing.
42:16
Speaker 2: So in Seattle they came into a forest, into mine, right,
42:21
Speaker 2: and they built all these shanties right, same thing in
42:24
Speaker 2: San Francisco, they built all these shanties right. There were
42:27
Speaker 2: poor people coming from the east looking to make their millions, right,
42:30
Speaker 2: so they came to they and they did not build
42:33
Speaker 2: really nice places. They built kind of crappy places in
42:36
Speaker 2: these towns and then boom. As soon as the boom
42:39
Speaker 2: is over, big fires come through, burn everything out. And
42:44
Speaker 2: now the rich people come in and they rebuilt San
42:47
Speaker 2: Francisco into a really nice city, and Chicago into a
42:50
Speaker 2: really nice city, and Seattle into a really nice city,
42:53
Speaker 2: and all the places where the fires were, and it
42:56
Speaker 2: is very odd, and it's like a plan so that
43:00
Speaker 2: they flush everybody out and when they're ready to redo
43:05
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And they used fire, earthquakes and floods.
43:09
Speaker 3: Terry says, reset fires. I mean, that's kind of what
43:11
Speaker 3: it what it kind of sounds like. Didn't the Chicago
43:14
Speaker 3: fire happen semi around the Chicago World's Fair?
43:19
Speaker 2: No. Eighteen seventy one was when those fires happened. The
43:24
Speaker 2: World's Fair was in eighteen ninety one, ostensibly as a
43:29
Speaker 2: show to show the world how awesome the rebuilt Chicago was.
43:33
Speaker 2: That was the whole reason for the World's Fair, right,
43:36
Speaker 2: so they put their little World's Fare there, and like
43:39
Speaker 2: thirty million people something like that came to Chicago and
43:42
Speaker 2: they had rebuilt the whole place and now was showing
43:44
Speaker 2: it up like showing off a new car in a
43:48
Speaker 2: car place, right, and rebuilt, and they all moved to
43:52
Speaker 2: Chicago after that, and Chicago became the second biggest city
43:56
Speaker 2: in the United States for the next almost hundred years.
43:59
Speaker 2: So you know, the hindsight is twenty twenty and say,
44:05
Speaker 2: you look back at these things and you can see it.
44:08
Speaker 2: If you really want to get a real handle on
44:12
Speaker 2: the fires in the eighteen hundreds and how really awful
44:17
Speaker 2: they were, Randall Carlson did a series of shows on
44:20
Speaker 2: his as Randall Carlson show on YouTube about it. He
44:25
Speaker 2: did an extensive documentary series on the Fires of America
44:30
Speaker 2: and shows you how really strange you are and that
44:34
Speaker 2: they almost when you hear Randall Carlson talk about those fires,
44:40
Speaker 2: you almost think there are aliens in spaceship shooting stuff
44:44
Speaker 2: down and starting these fires, because how could three fires
44:47
Speaker 2: hundreds of miles apart all start up on the same
44:50
Speaker 2: day at the same time. Randall thinks that it might
44:54
Speaker 2: be he has correlated these fires to comets passing by,
45:01
Speaker 2: and he says that it might be you know, shrapnel
45:05
Speaker 2: from the comet, you know, flying down and hitting the
45:07
Speaker 2: Earth and starting and that could be because you know
45:10
Speaker 2: the meteor showers or us passing through a comet's tail, right,
45:14
Speaker 2: that's what causes meteor showers. I love them out here
45:17
Speaker 2: in the mountains. Were so spectacular that I always make
45:20
Speaker 2: sure I stay up and watch them, and and so, yeah,
45:24
Speaker 2: I can see that, you know, but that's a natural
45:27
Speaker 2: explanation for the weird fires. However, the fires in California
45:32
Speaker 2: in the past few years, they've got a high strangeness
45:36
Speaker 2: about him. And I haven't fixated on it yet. But
45:39
Speaker 2: when I look at the footage of flying over the Palisades,
45:45
Speaker 2: you know, I can't quite tell are all the trees
45:47
Speaker 2: still there? It's kind of weird, but it sort of
45:52
Speaker 2: looks like the trees are all still there, they still
45:54
Speaker 2: got green on them, and so I might be wrong
45:57
Speaker 2: on that. So I just I'm having trouble with that one.
46:02
Speaker 3: Well, when you think about it, it takes a long
46:04
Speaker 3: time to burn a log. Yeah, well it's gonna take
46:08
Speaker 3: a really long I mean, if you throw a giant
46:10
Speaker 3: log on a fire like that was going to burn
46:14
Speaker 3: for freaking long time. And the trees in California are
46:19
Speaker 3: really big, like they're not any stubby little trees. There's
46:23
Speaker 3: some big old trees.
46:26
Speaker 2: Well we've been there a while. Yeah, so you know,
46:29
Speaker 2: are we remaking remaking the place? Well, if this happens again,
46:33
Speaker 2: then the answer is yes. Then now we're way past coincidences.
46:37
Speaker 2: So if this happens in another nice place, and I
46:40
Speaker 2: just really have to wonder. I've never been to that
46:42
Speaker 2: area of North Carolina that got hit by the hurricane,
46:48
Speaker 2: but I've seen the video of it, and you know,
46:53
Speaker 2: weather it looks pretty nice. There's just a bunch of hillbillies,
46:57
Speaker 2: right and when there're shacks and stuff and the kind
47:01
Speaker 2: of fleshing them all out, and those little mountains look
47:04
Speaker 2: pretty nice to put a you know, three million dollar
47:07
Speaker 2: mansion on it. So I don't know if that's what's
47:10
Speaker 2: going on there or not. I'd have to go there.
47:12
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a really nice place I
47:14
Speaker 2: suspect it is.
47:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you could put like apartment complexes or
47:21
Speaker 3: duplexes or you know, something like that. I was looking
47:25
Speaker 3: into there's like some kind of deed or something that
47:29
Speaker 3: you can fill out for the Department of Agriculture where
47:33
Speaker 3: you can get land for really cheap. Each state has
47:36
Speaker 3: its own type of version of this, and I was
47:41
Speaker 3: looking at you know, signing up for that and you know,
47:44
Speaker 3: buying a plot of land and you get it for
47:45
Speaker 3: cheaper if you build your house on that plot of land.
47:50
Speaker 3: And then I was like looking it up for Colorado,
47:53
Speaker 3: and Colorado only does it for like companies and for
48:00
Speaker 3: low income housing. So you can't buy the land and
48:05
Speaker 3: get it for cheap to build your house on it.
48:07
Speaker 3: You can only buy the land and get it if
48:09
Speaker 3: you want to put low income housing projects on it.
48:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, then they they've passed laws now that you can't
48:18
Speaker 2: put an RV on a vacant lot if you're building
48:21
Speaker 2: your house there. So now they're making it really difficult
48:24
Speaker 2: for guys like I built my own house in my
48:28
Speaker 2: late thirties, and I'm want one of the most incredibly
48:31
Speaker 2: exciting things I ever did in my life, I learned
48:34
Speaker 2: so much, and I worked so hard, you know, and
48:36
Speaker 2: eventually sold it for a lot of money. And you know,
48:39
Speaker 2: it was a great experience. And now they're making it
48:42
Speaker 2: so difficult for a guy like you writer to go
48:46
Speaker 2: build a house somewhere. You know. Now, I think it's
48:49
Speaker 2: a little looser where I live in Colorado because we're
48:53
Speaker 2: run by a bunch of hippies and they kind of
48:55
Speaker 2: let lessened all the rules here. But I think you'd
48:58
Speaker 2: probably be eyes to go to some place like, you know,
49:02
Speaker 2: I don't know, Kansas or Texas or somewhere, because they
49:06
Speaker 2: have a lot more lack building laws. But here in Colorado,
49:10
Speaker 2: this state is being completely taken over by the ridge,
49:14
Speaker 2: completely taken over. Lake City, Colorado. It's four and a
49:18
Speaker 2: half million dollars to buy a three bedroom, too bath house.
49:21
Speaker 2: Crested Butte, Colorado, it's six million to buy a three bedroom,
49:25
Speaker 2: two bath house. You know, it's just what are you
49:28
Speaker 2: going to do my house? I bought it for almost nothing.
49:31
Speaker 2: Right if they assess it at a two million dollars,
49:35
Speaker 2: say it a year from now. I can't pay that,
49:37
Speaker 2: I can't pay taxes on that. I'm gonna have to
49:39
Speaker 2: sell it and you know, what can I do? You
49:42
Speaker 2: know I can't. I can't afford the taxes on it.
49:45
Speaker 2: So you know, I purposely bought a low budget house
49:48
Speaker 2: thinking I could keep you know, my taxes low. But
49:51
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. They need the money. They're
49:54
Speaker 2: not going to slash their budgets their salaries for you.
49:58
Speaker 2: So they're not going to do It's gonna be a
50:01
Speaker 2: big crisis. And it's gonna be. Uh, the millennials are
50:07
Speaker 2: going to have and the and the and the and
50:09
Speaker 2: the zeers are going to have a very very hard
50:12
Speaker 2: time finding houses. And I think they want you to
50:14
Speaker 2: live in apartments. They want you to rent everything. They
50:17
Speaker 2: don't want you to own anything. They want you to rent, rent, rent, and.
50:21
Speaker 3: You own nothing and be happy. Dream.
50:23
Speaker 2: Well, you won't be happy, but you'll own nothing. Guarantee
50:26
Speaker 2: the part's true. You know, you need to own things.
50:31
Speaker 2: Ownership is responsibility. You don't say if you rent things,
50:35
Speaker 2: you don't care about it. Who cares about a rental car? Right?
50:39
Speaker 2: You know, you know, leave trash everywhere, you spill stuff
50:43
Speaker 2: on it, you're not going to care. And uh, but
50:46
Speaker 2: if it's yours, that's a whole different thing. And so
50:49
Speaker 2: I think that the whole idea is just another form
50:52
Speaker 2: of Marxism with a with a pretty face. And I
50:56
Speaker 2: don't think, uh, I think, I think think, actually this
51:00
Speaker 2: is a hill to die on. We're just about on
51:02
Speaker 2: that hill that that is that where you know, the
51:05
Speaker 2: bandets have to come out, because I think we're close
51:08
Speaker 2: to the hill now where Okay, if we don't, if
51:10
Speaker 2: we don't fight now, we lost it. We lose everything.
51:14
Speaker 2: And I'll see where we're going. I feel like the
51:17
Speaker 2: country is in a psychologically better shape than it has
51:22
Speaker 2: been in the last few years, and I can feel
51:24
Speaker 2: an up chicken optimism and so we'll see. I don't know,
51:30
Speaker 2: you know, they put Trump in such a trap. I
51:33
Speaker 2: don't know if he even he's smart enough to get
51:35
Speaker 2: out of the traps that they've laid for him. So
51:38
Speaker 2: we'll see.
51:40
Speaker 3: Don't forgest thing about him him being in there is
51:43
Speaker 3: that it's a second term and he doesn't have to campaign.
51:46
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to spend half of his term canting
51:49
Speaker 3: campaigning for running for president again, so he has a
51:52
Speaker 3: solid four years to really do everything in like you know,
51:57
Speaker 3: So I mean that's a I think that's a good sign.
52:00
Speaker 3: But I think a strange thing about these these fires
52:04
Speaker 3: is that quietly the drone story just kind of went away.
52:08
Speaker 3: Jan like nobody's talking about the drones anymore about New Jersey,
52:14
Speaker 3: you know, And we actually have one in between that
52:17
Speaker 3: as well. We also had the fog. So we had
52:19
Speaker 3: the drones and then the fog was happening during that.
52:23
Speaker 3: The fog was very short lived and only you know,
52:26
Speaker 3: went on for a couple of days, which there's a
52:29
Speaker 3: series on Amazon that came out like right when this
52:33
Speaker 3: people started talking about the fog that is about the
52:36
Speaker 3: fog really, so it's so interesting and it's about exactly
52:41
Speaker 3: like with the drones and the suitcase briefcase nuke thing.
52:46
Speaker 3: You had that show, that movie on Netflix called carry
52:49
Speaker 3: On that was about a suitcase nuke getting on a plane.
52:53
Speaker 3: So they're they're blending reality with you know, movies and
53:00
Speaker 3: in television and media. But it's so interesting how like
53:05
Speaker 3: how people how like one event happens and then it's
53:08
Speaker 3: about that for a really long period well not long
53:11
Speaker 3: period of time, a short period of time, and then
53:13
Speaker 3: something else happens and then that thing takes the place
53:15
Speaker 3: of the thing that was going on before, and then
53:17
Speaker 3: we didn't have any answers about the thing that happened before,
53:19
Speaker 3: and then something else comes along it takes the place
53:21
Speaker 3: of that one that also happened that we didn't have
53:23
Speaker 3: any answers about that either. You know, it's like this
53:26
Speaker 3: revolving door of stuff that we don't get any answers to.
53:29
Speaker 3: It's just a bunch of theories and then speculation, and
53:31
Speaker 3: then it's moved on to the next thing. And I
53:34
Speaker 3: thought that the drone thing, we were going to finally
53:37
Speaker 3: get something conclusive on exactly what was happening with the drone.
53:42
Speaker 3: I thought that was like one of the most interesting
53:45
Speaker 3: ones that's happened in recent years.
53:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. And you know, because there's really two
53:51
Speaker 2: types of things that were going on in the sky.
53:54
Speaker 2: One we're definitely hardware or drone with lights on them, which,
53:58
Speaker 2: by the way, I own like five drones. None of
54:02
Speaker 2: them have any lights on them, so I don't know
54:03
Speaker 2: where they're getting drones with lights. Very dangerous to fly
54:06
Speaker 2: a drone at night, even with lights. If you don't
54:09
Speaker 2: have night vision, it's dangerous fly drone in the daytime.
54:12
Speaker 2: So I mean, as far as losing the drone, But
54:19
Speaker 2: there's other things which are these or like plasmoids that
54:24
Speaker 2: are up there, and they're flying around and doing things
54:27
Speaker 2: that no drone could ever do, taking one hundred and
54:30
Speaker 2: eighty degree turns at really fast speeds and all this.
54:34
Speaker 2: At the same time that this is happening, science is
54:39
Speaker 2: beginning to openly discuss the idea that there is plasma
54:44
Speaker 2: beings who have intelligence and sentience. There's a paper that
54:49
Speaker 2: came out in February twenty four and another one that
54:52
Speaker 2: came out in October twenty four right before this thing
54:56
Speaker 2: started up, saying that airplanes should be worried about hitting
54:59
Speaker 2: these plasma objects and that there may be a airplane
55:04
Speaker 2: crashes caused by these plasma objects in the atmosphere. And
55:08
Speaker 2: don't forget another weird thing that's been going on lately
55:11
Speaker 2: is what there's been a number of airplane crashes, very strange.
55:15
Speaker 2: There used to not be hardly any Now we're getting
55:17
Speaker 2: them like once every three or four weeks. So, yeah,
55:22
Speaker 2: there they are. That's a plasma being. And if you
55:25
Speaker 2: want to really see a good one type in NASA
55:30
Speaker 2: Space Shuttle tether experiment, and we'll see a whole bunch
55:34
Speaker 2: of these objects beings, whatever they are, flying around this
55:39
Speaker 2: electric wire that was hanging out of the space shuttle.
55:42
Speaker 2: So these things are real, and science is now realizing
55:46
Speaker 2: that they have predatory action. They can sense objects, they
55:51
Speaker 2: are curious. They seem to be attracted to things that
55:56
Speaker 2: are electrical, like electrical power stations, electrical waters, and they
56:01
Speaker 2: seem to get rejuvenated by being around it. Plasma is
56:05
Speaker 2: electricity and gas mixed together, and you can see it
56:09
Speaker 2: has like a skin on It has like the skin,
56:12
Speaker 2: and you can see that the nature of it is
56:15
Speaker 2: kind of foggy and mystic, mystic, misty, And I think
56:21
Speaker 2: that the word mystical and mystic comes from people's interaction
56:25
Speaker 2: with these plasma beings. And I think the real intelligent
56:29
Speaker 2: aliens are not little green men from Mars. I think
56:34
Speaker 2: they're these plasma beings. I think they're the thing that
56:38
Speaker 2: is causing and people. When people get really close to
56:42
Speaker 2: these things, they begin reporting missing time, strange altered states,
56:48
Speaker 2: odd experiences because your brain is plasma, so it's interacting
56:52
Speaker 2: with the plasma of your brain. And I think I
56:56
Speaker 2: think a lot of a lot of the things that
56:59
Speaker 2: we think of our aliens or ghosts or other things
57:02
Speaker 2: are actually our interaction with these plasma objects, and it's
57:06
Speaker 2: kind of amazing how this is happening and people are
57:09
Speaker 2: videotaping them all over the place. What's interesting is that
57:13
Speaker 2: I predicted a year or so ago on my show
57:16
Speaker 2: Reality Check that we would start seeing these plasma beings
57:20
Speaker 2: more often now because we're moving out of the Coli
57:23
Speaker 2: Yuga into the Davapara Yuga, and so the galactic emanations
57:28
Speaker 2: from Galactic Center are increasing. And this is what my
57:32
Speaker 2: first two books are about. And I predict as galactic
57:36
Speaker 2: emanations come in, we're going to start the veil between realities.
57:40
Speaker 2: It's going to get thinner and thinner until we're going
57:43
Speaker 2: to actually start interacting with these beings in very profound ways.
57:47
Speaker 2: And I believe that, you know, ever since the aliens
57:55
Speaker 2: started coming in the nineteen fifties and talking to humans,
58:00
Speaker 2: they're always really concerned about our environment and about our
58:03
Speaker 2: ecosystem and how we're ruining the Earth. And that always
58:07
Speaker 2: struck me strange that aliens would give a shit about,
58:10
Speaker 2: you know, the Earth that they don't live here. But
58:13
Speaker 2: if they're plasma beings and they live in our atmosphere
58:15
Speaker 2: and they're intelligent, then they're going to be concerned about
58:18
Speaker 2: what's going on, and you're blowing off the nuclear weapons
58:21
Speaker 2: into the atmosphere, probably alerted to them that there was
58:24
Speaker 2: something going on. And you know, also as just a aside,
58:32
Speaker 2: Oppenheimer was a plasma physicist. The guy who invented the
58:36
Speaker 2: bomb was a plasma physicist, all right, So it's very
58:39
Speaker 2: very likely that the atomic bomb is a plasma weapon.
58:46
Speaker 2: In other words, they're using the crushing of the atoms
58:49
Speaker 2: to create so much plasma that it blows off and
58:52
Speaker 2: creates a huge explosion. And if these plasma beings are
58:57
Speaker 2: up in the atmosphere, they're going to see it and
58:59
Speaker 2: detect it, know exactly what's going on, and probably scaring
59:02
Speaker 2: the hell out of them, if not killing many of
59:05
Speaker 2: them too. So that's one of my favorite things. That's
59:09
Speaker 2: what my next our next bill was about. It's called
59:12
Speaker 2: the Invisible Universe, and hoping that we're shooting the pilot
59:17
Speaker 2: and that we can have a series that's what I'd
59:19
Speaker 2: really liked. That's what I'm really hoping for, you know,
59:22
Speaker 2: several season series for like Ancient Aliens, where we explore
59:26
Speaker 2: plasma in all the dimensions of it. It's after life
59:31
Speaker 2: plasma interacting with us, plasma causing ghostly things to happen, disappearances,
59:41
Speaker 2: altered states. You know, there's a million different subjects that
59:45
Speaker 2: we want to explore in this We've got Andrew Collins
59:49
Speaker 2: is in it, Robert Temple is in it. I'm in it,
59:52
Speaker 2: and h Riders going to edit it and maybe even
59:56
Speaker 2: direct some of the episodes because I'm not really into
59:59
Speaker 2: directing anymore, but he did direct this episode with my
1:00:02
Speaker 2: friend Helen or Resnor, and so I'm really excited that
1:00:07
Speaker 2: the Plasma things all coming out right when we're just
1:00:09
Speaker 2: getting done shooting the you know, the first episode of
1:00:12
Speaker 2: this series that's all on the same subject. And we've
1:00:14
Speaker 2: had amazing timing. I mean, our first film jfk X
1:00:18
Speaker 2: came out on the sixtieth anniversary, cause a real ruckus,
1:00:23
Speaker 2: and then the Clockwork Shining comes out, you know, right
1:00:26
Speaker 2: when the interest is standy. Cuban is starting to come
1:00:28
Speaker 2: back again, and now we're onto the Plasma universe, which
1:00:32
Speaker 2: is probably a little bit safer subject than the other two,
1:00:35
Speaker 2: and now everybody's interested in the Plasma universe. So you know,
1:00:41
Speaker 2: they say success ninety percent of success is timing, so
1:00:45
Speaker 2: maybe that's what our game is.
1:00:48
Speaker 3: Well, I had them Buchanan on the other day, and
1:00:52
Speaker 3: we were talking about how because Sean Ryan had not
1:01:01
Speaker 3: I may but Skip out water on a show, and
1:01:04
Speaker 3: Skip was talking about how you would have these dreams
1:01:06
Speaker 3: and you would have interactions with aliens and all that
1:01:10
Speaker 3: he would ask aliens extraterrestrials. He's saying that, you know,
1:01:15
Speaker 3: how do you get from one place to the other?
1:01:17
Speaker 3: And the extraterrestrial told him that it's like an a Rubik's cube,
1:01:22
Speaker 3: and then if you just imagine a Ruby's cube and
1:01:24
Speaker 3: then imagine each side of the ruby scrub having another
1:01:27
Speaker 3: Rubic's cube, and then if you just twist that it
1:01:29
Speaker 3: was some kind of metaphor that the you know, the
1:01:32
Speaker 3: alien was giving him apparently, and he said, well, you know,
1:01:37
Speaker 3: the alien said, we don't really go anywhere. We stay
1:01:41
Speaker 3: exactly where we are. And then that made me think, well, okay, well,
1:01:46
Speaker 3: because some people think that I'm completely opposed to the
1:01:50
Speaker 3: extraterrestrial hypothesis, and I am opposed to the extraterrestrial hypothesis
1:01:56
Speaker 3: because I don't think that they've ever been here. I
1:01:59
Speaker 3: don't think that they've ever visited. But I don't discount
1:02:02
Speaker 3: the idea that some other life may exist somewhere else
1:02:07
Speaker 3: in the universe, and if they were so advanced Jay
1:02:11
Speaker 3: that they were able to essentially by locate into our
1:02:17
Speaker 3: reality while they're not really leaving their planet or wherever
1:02:22
Speaker 3: it is that they live, and then it would be
1:02:24
Speaker 3: basically be like duplicating themselves here in another physical form.
1:02:30
Speaker 3: And that's kind of like what the extent of remote
1:02:36
Speaker 3: viewing does. Like Limn was explaining how like there's this
1:02:40
Speaker 3: you know, controlled remote viewing aspect that Ego Swan you know,
1:02:45
Speaker 3: talked about, and at the end of that development, there's
1:02:47
Speaker 3: this process that's called I forget exactly what he said
1:02:52
Speaker 3: that it was, but it was essentially like you can
1:02:55
Speaker 3: duplicate your body in another space time and then influence
1:03:01
Speaker 3: reality outside of your body. So you're essentially bylocating to
1:03:05
Speaker 3: a different location on Earth and you can interact with things,
1:03:09
Speaker 3: like you can move things around and touch people and everything.
1:03:11
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, well, that almost sounds like what paranormal
1:03:14
Speaker 3: activity also is, like ghosts and stuff like that. It
1:03:17
Speaker 3: could just be a really advanced remote viewer that is
1:03:22
Speaker 3: just by locating in you're catching a glimpse of them.
1:03:27
Speaker 3: But then that also kind of relates to this plasmoid
1:03:29
Speaker 3: idea as well, because that might be what you kind
1:03:32
Speaker 3: of show up.
1:03:33
Speaker 2: Assactly what you do. So you know the experiment what
1:03:37
Speaker 2: pre with called where they take a particle and they
1:03:40
Speaker 2: split like an electron off of it, and then they
1:03:43
Speaker 2: have one the one part of the particle in Germany
1:03:46
Speaker 2: the other part in Hawaii, and the two scientists are
1:03:49
Speaker 2: talking to each other and say, okay, hit it with
1:03:51
Speaker 2: a proton or electron, and they hit the particle with
1:03:54
Speaker 2: electron at the same time that they both respond or
1:03:57
Speaker 2: they hit one with electron, the other one responds right
1:04:00
Speaker 2: immediately in real time. Okay, So what is going on?
1:04:05
Speaker 2: Is there not really separated, there's the plasma body that
1:04:08
Speaker 2: surrounds it is still connected small tendril called the shashima
1:04:14
Speaker 2: in the Hindu tradition. And so these plasmas can be
1:04:20
Speaker 2: as small as a million of the width of a
1:04:22
Speaker 2: human hair and still be intact where you can't see them.
1:04:26
Speaker 2: And so what the remote viewing is is literally your
1:04:32
Speaker 2: astral body travels through the plasma stream out going wherever
1:04:36
Speaker 2: it's going, and it takes in the information and it
1:04:39
Speaker 2: can interact with people and all sorts of things. The
1:04:43
Speaker 2: key to all the new science that's coming out is plasma.
1:04:49
Speaker 2: It's all the exotic technologies that they're working on at
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Speaker 2: skunk Works and all of that, it's all plasma. It
1:04:59
Speaker 2: is the fourth fourth type of nature. So you have solids, liquid, gases,
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Speaker 2: and plasma, and alchemy you have earth, water, air, and fire.
1:05:16
Speaker 2: Earth is solid, air is gas, water is liquid, and
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Speaker 2: fire is plasma. Plasma is the secret fire in alchemy,
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Speaker 2: the fire that does not burn. And you read all
1:05:28
Speaker 2: these alchemical sections, What secret fire? What a fire that
1:05:31
Speaker 2: doesn't burn? What is this talking about? Right? And it's
1:05:34
Speaker 2: because and what the alchemists are doing is they're using
1:05:38
Speaker 2: laboratory methods to create plasma, literally create plasma, and then
1:05:44
Speaker 2: to communicate with the plasma, and then the plasma gives
1:05:47
Speaker 2: them all sorts of information. But also one of the
1:05:52
Speaker 2: parts of alchemy is, of course it gives you a
1:05:54
Speaker 2: longer life. You study alchemy and you live a long time.
1:05:57
Speaker 2: But what is that about, Well, living a long time
1:06:01
Speaker 2: is about literally absorbing plasma, absorbing plasma into your body.
1:06:08
Speaker 2: And so they have various techniques yoga, all sorts of chigong,
1:06:13
Speaker 2: all sorts of techniques that have been developed to create
1:06:16
Speaker 2: the chi or the product, which is plasma into your
1:06:19
Speaker 2: body so that your body radiates plasma. And the more
1:06:24
Speaker 2: that you can suck in this plasma, the more you're healthy.
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Speaker 2: And so also using light dark practices, you can increase
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Speaker 2: the plasma body. That's all right. It's the etheric body,
1:06:38
Speaker 2: it's the astra body. It's the key to everything, and
1:06:43
Speaker 2: it's an alchemical secret. It is now breaking lives and
1:06:46
Speaker 2: it's going to break loose across the world because we're
1:06:49
Speaker 2: making a film about it. And it's really, in some
1:06:53
Speaker 2: ways the final secret, and it's the secret they don't
1:06:55
Speaker 2: want you to know about. The reason they don't want
1:06:57
Speaker 2: you to know about it is because they want you say,
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Speaker 2: and they want you tired, and they want you like
1:07:02
Speaker 2: you pressed and everything. And once you understand that there's
1:07:06
Speaker 2: this entire invisible universe that surrounds us and abuse us,
1:07:12
Speaker 2: you've become happy and you become optimistic about life. And
1:07:16
Speaker 2: they don't want that. They want you to be sad.
1:07:18
Speaker 2: They want you to be terrified.
1:07:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lim Buchanan called this perfect site integration. Did you
1:07:26
Speaker 3: see that interview with Tucker Carlson and that one gentleman
1:07:29
Speaker 3: that said that he would I think he said. I
1:07:34
Speaker 3: can't remember the guy's name, but he said that he
1:07:36
Speaker 3: would take plasma from his young son and then injected
1:07:43
Speaker 3: into his body and it increases telomerors and like it
1:07:47
Speaker 3: decreased the aging process and all that.
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Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly what's going on. And they know this
1:07:54
Speaker 2: has all all been discovered by the way already. It's
1:07:56
Speaker 2: been discovered for like thirty years. This is the big
1:07:59
Speaker 2: problem their faith see right now is they're being forced
1:08:03
Speaker 2: by insiders. Are saying, you told me ten years ago
1:08:08
Speaker 2: that you're going to release all this information in ten years,
1:08:10
Speaker 2: and now it's ten years and you're not releasing it,
1:08:12
Speaker 2: and you're gonna tell me ten years again now or
1:08:15
Speaker 2: right now, and I'm not taking it. So I'm going
1:08:17
Speaker 2: public because I'm afraid that what I'm doing working for
1:08:21
Speaker 2: you is illegal and I'm not going to jail for you.
1:08:24
Speaker 2: And so they're starting to break through, and Stephen Greer
1:08:27
Speaker 2: is talking about all these insiders are now coming to
1:08:29
Speaker 2: him and apparently it's all coming out in the next
1:08:31
Speaker 2: few weeks and you're gonna see it's all gonna be
1:08:34
Speaker 2: about plasma. It's all gonna be about objects that are
1:08:38
Speaker 2: plasma powered, and there's no way to stop what's about
1:08:44
Speaker 2: to happen. There's no way, and it's going to be
1:08:51
Speaker 2: both amazing and frightening at the same time. And when
1:08:55
Speaker 2: human beings finally have the power of the plasma universe
1:09:00
Speaker 2: in their hand, we'd better become a very responsible race
1:09:06
Speaker 2: of beings because that stuff is powerful, powerful beyond belief.
1:09:12
Speaker 2: But I believe we're very close to medical breakthroughs with plasma.
1:09:17
Speaker 2: I believe we're very close to vehicles powered by plasma,
1:09:22
Speaker 2: in other words, the free energy without any waste, being
1:09:25
Speaker 2: able to go from New York to Australia in a
1:09:28
Speaker 2: couple hours. And I believe that we're on the edge
1:09:32
Speaker 2: of free energy, absolute free energy. I think it's going
1:09:36
Speaker 2: to happen probably in twenty twenty five. And Trump named
1:09:43
Speaker 2: a high tech businessman to run the Navy. Well, the
1:09:46
Speaker 2: Navy's the department that has all these secrets. And the
1:09:49
Speaker 2: best way to get these secrets out without everybody accusing
1:09:52
Speaker 2: you of letting the Earth get destroyed because you wouldn't
1:09:54
Speaker 2: give out all of these free energy machines is to
1:10:00
Speaker 2: have them look like they got invented by high tech companies.
1:10:04
Speaker 2: So you just give the machine to a tech company
1:10:06
Speaker 2: and say here, you know, create a pedigree around this invention.
1:10:10
Speaker 2: Say this guy found us and that and that's how
1:10:13
Speaker 2: it got invented, and put it out as fast as
1:10:14
Speaker 2: you can. I think that's what's about to happen, because
1:10:17
Speaker 2: you see, Trump can't save the economy. We're one hundred
1:10:20
Speaker 2: trillion dollars in debt, in real debt. But he can
1:10:24
Speaker 2: grow us out of it. In other words, we suddenly
1:10:28
Speaker 2: everybody has free energy. I can produce widgets, you know,
1:10:32
Speaker 2: on my ranch without blowing a hole in my electricity costs. Well,
1:10:37
Speaker 2: you're going to see a de centralization of everything, and
1:10:42
Speaker 2: everyone will. And that's what free energy will do, is
1:10:45
Speaker 2: decentralize everything. And we can take down all the hydro
1:10:48
Speaker 2: electric plants, so all the nuclear power plots, get rid
1:10:51
Speaker 2: of all the ugly telephone poles everywhere. And I think
1:10:57
Speaker 2: that this is the beginning of a kind of a
1:11:00
Speaker 2: strangely enough and kind of a golden age.
1:11:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be nice. I mean I would.
1:11:11
Speaker 2: I lose you.
1:11:20
Speaker 3: I clicked out of there somehow something you know, I
1:11:23
Speaker 3: got completely uh completely kicked out of the chat. They
1:11:27
Speaker 3: kicked the entire thing out of the studio. But I
1:11:30
Speaker 3: hope that that happens. I hope that we give free
1:11:33
Speaker 3: energy at some point. I mean, people have been talking
1:11:37
Speaker 3: about it for a really long time. I don't know
1:11:39
Speaker 3: if I trust Stephen Greer that whatever.
1:11:41
Speaker 2: I don't trust Stephen Greer, but I know the science
1:11:45
Speaker 2: behind zero point energy and I know it works. And
1:11:49
Speaker 2: so the problem up till now and I got to
1:11:52
Speaker 2: go after this, is that everybody thinks you're going to
1:11:56
Speaker 2: make chazillions of dollars off of it, Eric Dollard, all
1:11:59
Speaker 2: of them, and they you just got to give it
1:12:03
Speaker 2: out for free. That's what has to happen. If you've
1:12:06
Speaker 2: got the if you've got the invention, put it out
1:12:08
Speaker 2: on the internet for free. You know, let us go
1:12:11
Speaker 2: build them. You'll get famous and you'll be rich. I
1:12:14
Speaker 2: trust me you will be because everyone will know that
1:12:16
Speaker 2: you're the guy that did it, and they'll make movies
1:12:19
Speaker 2: about you and documentaries about you and everything. So don't
1:12:22
Speaker 2: worry about getting rich. Just get the dang thing out.
1:12:25
Speaker 2: Too many people have gone down, you know, I've known
1:12:27
Speaker 2: some of them. One of them was an editor of
1:12:30
Speaker 2: an energy magazine. He got murdered in his own home,
1:12:33
Speaker 2: So you know, it's a dangerous world, but we're right
1:12:37
Speaker 2: on the edge of it shifting, and the cabal has
1:12:41
Speaker 2: so much to do right now that they can't control everything.
1:12:45
Speaker 2: So this is the time to act. And if we
1:12:48
Speaker 2: don't act now, I don't think we're going to be
1:12:50
Speaker 2: able to to pull a victory out of this.
1:12:54
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for coming on, Jay, really appreciate it. Can
1:12:56
Speaker 3: you let people know where to find you online and
1:12:58
Speaker 3: also where they can find find the documentary A Clockwork Shining?
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Speaker 2: Our new film is A Clockwork Shining, which is about
1:13:16
Speaker 2: MK Ultra in Hollywood, and it's now up international, as
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Speaker 2: I'm sure. And by the way, we've gotten quite a
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