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The Clinton Body Count · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me his co host this week,
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Speaker 2: Conomic Spatten's here.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, how's it going man, Good to see Adam.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you. Also, we got a guest, very rare.
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Speaker 2: We don't do guests a lot on Conspiracy The Show.
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Speaker 2: Comedian Harry Riley's here.
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Speaker 4: Hello.
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Speaker 2: How's it going.
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Speaker 4: I'm doing great. How you guys doing.
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Speaker 2: Oh I'm fanantastic. I can't complain. I'm fresh off a
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Speaker 2: week vacation.
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Speaker 3: You're talking about a classic today.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe we've never covered this before. We
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Speaker 2: on one of our first episodes we talked about a
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Speaker 2: small aspect of it, which is the murder of Seth Rich.
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Speaker 2: But this week we're talking about the Clinton body count. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: which was the band Bill Clinton started in the nineties.
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Speaker 2: They released that cop Killer song. Wait, no, that's it.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of the free Bird of conspiracies a little bit.
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Speaker 2: This is a really simple theory to explain. It basically
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Speaker 2: claims that Bill and Hillary Clinton just murder anyone who
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Speaker 2: gets in their way.
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Speaker 4: Like anyone, anyone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a lot of numbers. Yeah, they're putting
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Speaker 2: up playoff numbers.
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Speaker 3: Even the ones that are even slightly plausible. Is kind
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Speaker 3: of a long yeah, and that's it's a highly padded,
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Speaker 3: already long list.
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Speaker 2: There are some examples out there that aren't like they're
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Speaker 2: a little suspicious. But I mean, in the big scheme
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Speaker 2: of things, did the Clintons really accomplish everything they wanted? Like,
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Speaker 2: I feel like they still run up against some obstacles.
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Speaker 3: I feel like Hillary would be so annoying carrying out
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Speaker 3: a secret murder because she'd want to do everything by
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Speaker 3: the Secret Murder Book, you know what I mean. She'd
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Speaker 3: be a nerd about it, and uh, the guys at
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Speaker 3: the CIA would be like, let's just drive them out
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Speaker 3: in the field and shoot him in the head twice.
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Speaker 3: Come on. But if we've done this before and she's
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Speaker 3: like no, no, no, no. So I don't know. I
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Speaker 3: feel like Hillary might not be as prolific as a
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Speaker 3: secret murderers as you maybe wanted to be. As a fan,
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Speaker 3: I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Like I kind of want this theory to be true.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I just don't think life
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Speaker 2: more interesting.
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Speaker 3: It's got some nice alliteration to it. Clinton body count. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's fun to say.
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Speaker 4: Oh, it'll make life more interesting if you know, we
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Speaker 4: had a president and first lady that was just bodying
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Speaker 4: people all over the place, just.
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Speaker 3: House to cards and motherfucker's left and right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I one of my I guess the doubts I have
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Speaker 2: about this is if they were doing this, like those
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Speaker 2: are the kind of people that don't really pay attention
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Speaker 2: to like term limits either. Like I feel like Bill
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Speaker 2: Clinton would still be in office if this was his
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Speaker 2: actual m O.
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Speaker 3: He probably would have won again. He's pretty damn you know,
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Speaker 3: we forget how charismatic he is.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if he was allowed to run for a
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Speaker 2: third term, he would have fucking mopped the floor with
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Speaker 2: George Bush. He's a rascal, that's one way to put it.
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Speaker 2: And So this is a theory that's been circulating a
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Speaker 2: long long time, at least since Clinton was president, which
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Speaker 2: that alone was a long damn time ago. And it's
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Speaker 2: one of those theories that's both true and false because
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Speaker 2: all of the people named here did die, Like there's
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Speaker 2: no one on the Clinton bout body count list, Who's like, no, actually,
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Speaker 2: I've been alive this whole time, And it's true that
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Speaker 2: all of the people like are kind of connected to the.
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Speaker 3: Clinton except except for Jeffrey Epstein is still alive. But
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Speaker 3: that's a whole other.
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Speaker 2: I do actually kind of believe that, Harry, what is
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Speaker 2: your stance on Jeffrey Epstein dead or alive? Well, he
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Speaker 2: did his shit, you think so? Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: You you don't think he could have paid his way
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Speaker 2: out of that or and or been protected by whatever
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Speaker 2: government he was working for.
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Speaker 4: I think so. I think it's a possibility, but I
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Speaker 4: think it would be more likely that they would just
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Speaker 4: kill him, like Trump and Clinton, who both probably tea
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Speaker 4: bags some youngins on that island. They probably was like,
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Speaker 4: you know what, let's just join together and just murdered
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Speaker 4: his bitch man, Let's get him.
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Speaker 3: It's hard for me to see with what usefulness he
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Speaker 3: has alive. Yeah, as fun as fun as it is
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Speaker 3: to dream about old Jeff.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, the notion that Bill and
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Speaker 2: and or Hillary Clinton had all these people killed is
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Speaker 2: kind of absurd. Snopes, which is a site that I
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Speaker 2: don't always trust, like sometimes you have to be a
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Speaker 2: little skeptical of the debunkers too. But they did a
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Speaker 2: pretty thorough takedown of this theory way back in the
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Speaker 2: early two thousands.
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Speaker 3: And Snopes like SNL where different eras were good and
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Speaker 3: some areas were bad. Like, oh, this is early two
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Speaker 3: thousand Snopes. This is when Kevin Nealon was It's actually
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Speaker 3: pretty good.
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it's always been like
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Speaker 2: the same husband and wife running Snopes, really, which it's like,
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Speaker 2: who the fuck are they to tell me? Mlka's family
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Speaker 2: didn't successfully sue the American government.
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Speaker 3: To tell me what's bunker exactly.
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Speaker 2: So they rightly point out that this is the kind
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Speaker 2: of conspiracy theory that relies on just sort of wearing
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Speaker 2: people out with as many examples as possible, because once
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Speaker 2: you're like twenty five names in, you stop asking questions
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Speaker 2: like what does the death of Bill Clinton's chiropractor's mother
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Speaker 2: have to do with anything? Which that is one of
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Speaker 2: the names on this extensive list is is chiropractor's mom.
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Speaker 2: It's like, what the fuck did she know his chiropractor
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Speaker 2: even know?
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Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing. Maybe Bill Clinton just has
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Speaker 3: a really big mouth and he's got like, fuck, fuck,
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Speaker 3: I got to kill another pool guy. I accidentally told
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Speaker 3: him I love as tea bagging Youngin's on an island
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Speaker 3: as Harry.
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Speaker 2: And there's also quite a few deaths listed that aren't
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Speaker 2: all that mysterious, like accidents do happen. In one case,
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about a girl tried to wrestle a gun
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Speaker 2: away from a guy who was rob in a Starbucks
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Speaker 2: and like, not the victim blame, but that's Starbucks. Sure,
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Speaker 2: I for one thing, I hope she like owned it
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Speaker 2: or something. Otherwise, why are you trying to be a
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Speaker 2: hero in that situation? Let that man rob that Starbucks
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Speaker 2: in peace, lady.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, bitch, what's Fonsie?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: Also, how would Bill Clinton have orchestrated something like that?
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Speaker 2: That's the question to ask with a lot of these two.
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Speaker 3: It's like what or Adam? Who else? But Bill Clinton
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Speaker 3: could have orchestrated something like that. That's also it takes
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Speaker 3: the vast resources of a former president to plant a
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Speaker 3: robber in a Starbucks. At the same time, subconsciously developed
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Speaker 3: a hero complex within the victim. I don't know, just
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Speaker 3: playing Devil's advocate here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's an mk ultra. Shit could be Oh,
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Speaker 2: you never know.
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Speaker 3: The government loves wasting money. I'm just let's just remember that.
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Speaker 2: And another important question to ask yourself if you are
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Speaker 2: a believer in the Clinton body count conspiracy, which I
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Speaker 2: think a lot of people are.
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Speaker 4: Oh, a lot of people.
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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of stickers on a lot of trucks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Harry. Do you know anyone personally who is
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Speaker 2: a Clinton body count believer?
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Speaker 4: No, but I know a lot of dumb ass comedians,
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Speaker 4: so it's it's so probably.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Yeah, I know comedians, so sure. I
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Speaker 2: think I know at least one comedian who would definitely
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Speaker 2: vouch for the Clinton body count conspiracy.
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Speaker 3: But only I'm right here.
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Speaker 2: But it's only because he made a stupid joke on
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Speaker 2: Twitter and got canceled for it and had to join
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Speaker 2: the right wingers, so now he's like duty bound to
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Speaker 2: accept the Clinton body count conspiracy.
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Speaker 3: That is one of the things that comes with when
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Speaker 3: you change good You go like, yeah, you kind of
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Speaker 3: got to be a Trump guy to kind of fuck
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Speaker 3: with the Clinton body count. You have to start using
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Speaker 3: and selling strange supplements.
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Speaker 2: All of that. But another important question to ask yourself
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Speaker 2: if you really are a believer in the Clinton body
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Speaker 2: count conspiracy is what about all those people who testified
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Speaker 2: against Clinton, who made sexual assault allegations against Clinton without
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Speaker 2: being murdered, Like there's such a long list, all the
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Speaker 2: people who investigated the Monica Wincey scandal, like Monica Lewinsky. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: well why did none of them die? How come Kenneth
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Speaker 2: Starr didn't get fucking oft?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I just saw Monica Lewinsky on the Today Show.
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Speaker 4: She's writing books, and shit, that's somebody you definitely want murdered.
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Speaker 3: It'd be well if they killed her now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a lot of balls. So if
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Speaker 3: it was like an obvious we shot herself twice in
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Speaker 3: the head type one?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the Gary Webb thing, Yeah yeah. By
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Speaker 2: the time, I kind of feel like Gary Webb was
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Speaker 2: trying to like reverse engineer things and like make people
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Speaker 2: think the CIA had their hand in it.
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Speaker 3: Oh, like what I would do if I killed myself?
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Speaker 2: Because he shot himself through the cheek that first time
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Speaker 2: and then shot himself in the head, It's like, damn,
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Speaker 2: you had to know that cheek shot wasn't going to
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Speaker 2: do the job.
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Speaker 3: Well because he's kind of a pro on some level.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was pretty late in the game for
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Speaker 2: the CIA, Like the CIA killed him while he was
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Speaker 2: still alive, Like they fucking ye in conjunction with the
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Speaker 2: fucking LA times. Like they really derailed that guy's fucking life.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's almost better than just killing someone, just destroying
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Speaker 4: their life to the point that you know, everything that
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Speaker 4: they worked for is gone. That's that's almost as good.
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Speaker 3: It's what I'm trying to do to Connor, and step
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Speaker 3: by step you do.
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Speaker 2: Adam, slowly but surely. So. The list of names as
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Speaker 2: it pertains to Clinton have also changed a bunch over
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Speaker 2: the years, so there isn't really a truly definitive list
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Speaker 2: of the Clinton body count anymore, but there's still lists.
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Speaker 2: And back when these lists started circulating.
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Speaker 3: Well, I like that each fans interpretation of the list
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Speaker 3: tells you a little bit about who they are, you know,
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Speaker 3: So this really sort of is how Clinton body count
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Speaker 3: people express themselves. Well, my list has one hundred and
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Speaker 3: seventy eight, but you know that's conservative.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed those BuzzFeed quizzes that would tell you,
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Speaker 2: like what version of the Clinton body count conspiracy you are?
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Speaker 3: Those are fine?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so back when these lists started circulating. One
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Speaker 2: of the things you heard from all the true believers was, well, well,
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Speaker 2: the media hasn't looked into any of this, so how
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Speaker 2: do you know it's not true?
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Speaker 4: See, I don't like that. That's always a weird little
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Speaker 4: cop out when people uh want to use something as
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Speaker 4: a conspiracy, they go, well, well, the media hasn't looked
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Speaker 4: into it. It's like, have you checked every media outlet,
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Speaker 4: because there's a lot of you know, news gathering organizations,
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Speaker 4: and some of them, you know, might want to pick
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Speaker 4: up on some bullshit, So you just got to look
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Speaker 4: and you'll find something shit. I found news report on
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Speaker 4: some hamster races a couple of weeks ago. Everything's getting reported.
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Speaker 3: What's the conspiracy? They're doping.
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Speaker 4: Fucking buff ass hamsters? Actually a guinea pig that they.
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Speaker 3: They say that hamster is only six months old, but
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Speaker 3: it's from Russia and he looks like it's at least
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Speaker 3: nine months old.
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Speaker 2: And the thing about that claim, as it pertains to
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Speaker 2: the Clinton byunt is yeah, maybe that was true back then,
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Speaker 2: but this theory started circulating more than twenty years ago.
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Speaker 2: Media outlets have looked into it since then, and not
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Speaker 2: a single one has come out of it convinced that
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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton has had all these people killed. Like, I
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Speaker 2: don't even think Fox News is on board with this,
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Speaker 2: maybe like Newsmax when you get out into the fringes.
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Speaker 2: I was in South Dakota recently visiting family, and we
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Speaker 2: were eating at a restaurant and there was a news
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Speaker 2: channel on and they were just talking about Hamas and Israel.
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Speaker 2: So I didn't really register like what I was watching
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Speaker 2: because they had the sound off also, And then I
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Speaker 2: looked down in the corner, fucking Newsmax, like in public
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Speaker 2: for people to consume. That's what the Midwest is like.
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Speaker 3: Now, goddamn wow, that's like they're serving taco bell in schools.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's all right, Yeah, that would kind of rip.
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Speaker 2: Actually not do pizza Hut at the school you went.
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Speaker 3: To, No, not not so lucky, Adam.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had pizza Hut one Friday every month. They
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Speaker 2: would just come in and you could buy pizza from them.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know how pizza hut works.
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Speaker 4: We had read books to get on pizza hut.
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Speaker 2: Oh, we did that too. They just didn't want us to, like,
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Speaker 2: you know, like when your your cat's on a schedule
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Speaker 2: and it's like half an hour before and it's just
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Speaker 2: standing there looking at its bowl. You feel bad. You
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Speaker 2: want to hit it with some extra food.
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Speaker 3: That was us Like, but since I know how school works,
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Speaker 3: I know that they only gave you this little token
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Speaker 3: of fun so they could make everything else slightly less
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Speaker 3: fun in some way. So I'm sure you paid for
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Speaker 3: this pizza existentially.
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Speaker 2: Well, for one thing, if you were poor, you just
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Speaker 2: did not get to participate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a extential cost that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pizza Hut didn't show up and accept your free
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Speaker 2: lunch card, asked lunch while the all the middle and
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Speaker 2: upper income kids, we're throwing down on.
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Speaker 3: Pizza Huts about that cash money.
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Speaker 2: That and making kids read. Which that's fine. So we're
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Speaker 2: going to go through some of the more famous examples
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Speaker 2: from the Clinton body count list and just talk about
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Speaker 2: how and why they are all pretty fucking absurd, Like
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of leaps that you got to make
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Speaker 2: to get a lot of this stuff to stick. The
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Speaker 2: first example is one I've already cited, Mary Mahoney. She
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Speaker 2: was a former White House intern, and the claim here
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Speaker 2: is that she was killed because she was going to
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Speaker 2: testify about sexual harassment within the Clinton White House, which
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Speaker 2: famously is a thing no woman has ever been allowed
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Speaker 2: to do without being murdered. So, actually, I think I
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Speaker 2: have her name wrong too. It's Mary mahone or Mohane.
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Speaker 2: Come on, let me google it. I don't want any
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Speaker 2: Clinton body count fanboys getting in the comments and being
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Speaker 2: like match, it's Mary Mohane. Yes, Mary Mohane. Rest in peace. Mary.
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Speaker 2: She was again clearly murdered by Bill Clinton in the
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Speaker 2: most obvious way possible, in that she was killed during
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Speaker 2: a robbery at a Starbucks along with two other victims.
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Speaker 2: The thing people point to here as being suspicious is
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Speaker 2: that nothing was taken during the robbery, so clearly Bill
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Speaker 2: Clinton orminstrated all this.
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Speaker 3: Since the copies of Shania Twain's greatest hits were intact.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to take stuff when you're visit
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Speaker 4: murdering a group of people. Man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, usually if you're murdering people, that means the robbery
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Speaker 2: has gone awry. It is secondary.
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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, he was, he was on. He had his
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Speaker 4: mindset on murder now, and the thirty five dollars they
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Speaker 4: had in the and the tip jar was like nothing
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Speaker 4: to him.
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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, this was the heyday of tips at Starbucks, probably, and.
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Speaker 3: That's going to make a lot of noise. Running away
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Speaker 3: with the change jangle, it's going to be tough to
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Speaker 3: evade the authorities.
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Speaker 2: And the reason nothing was taken during the robbery is
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Speaker 2: because the perpetrator, Carl Derek Havard Cooper, Yeah probably one,
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Speaker 2: spent a good thirty minutes telling them what to write
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Speaker 2: on his cup for that's an unwieldy ass name. But
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Speaker 2: he wasn't expecting to shoot anyone, like he robbed the Starbucks,
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Speaker 2: assuming well, these are Starbucks employees, they're not what's someone
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Speaker 2: going to do? Try to wrestle the gun away from me? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: So he manages to corral everyone into the back room,
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Speaker 2: and first Mary Mahone like tried to run away when
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Speaker 2: he fired a warning shot. He managed to get her
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Speaker 2: and corralled everyone into the back room and that's where
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Speaker 2: she tried to wrestle the gun away and she was
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Speaker 2: shot in the scuffle and wanting to leave no other witnesses,
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Speaker 2: he killed the other two employees after that, and then
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Speaker 2: he just left because he assumed, well that was a
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Speaker 2: lot of gun shots and screaming. The police are probably
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Speaker 2: on their way, so I should just get out of here,
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Speaker 2: which still doesn't make sense to me, Like how long
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Speaker 2: is it going to take to get in that cash register.
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Speaker 3: And grab a scone, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But also maybe that was the thing. Maybe he realized, fuck,
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Speaker 2: I needed one of those to open the cash register
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Speaker 2: for me.
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Speaker 4: Wow. Sure, yeah, that's what happened when you just started
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Speaker 4: pulling the trigger.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so amateur's all around.
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Speaker 2: It still doesn't explain why she went for the gun, Like,
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Speaker 2: I mean, again, not the victim blame, but don't don't
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Speaker 2: be a hero.
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Speaker 3: It was the testosterone shots that Bill Clinton had been
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Speaker 3: secretly injecting into her calf muscles every morning.
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Speaker 2: That could be all right, let's talk about Vince Foster.
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Speaker 2: He is He's Mount Rushmore material when it comes to
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Speaker 2: the Clinton body count.
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Speaker 3: He's on everybody's list.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's usually top of the list. Vince Foster,
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Speaker 2: he was White House Deputy council when he committed suicide
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Speaker 2: on the night of July twentieth, nineteen ninety three, by
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Speaker 2: way of a single gun shot to the head. There
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Speaker 2: was no suicide note found, but there was a very
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Speaker 2: sad resignation letter that was found in his briefcase about
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Speaker 2: a week later. He had contacted his doctor about being
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Speaker 2: depressed the day before his death. And no matter how
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Speaker 2: weird the circumstances around this one are, there's one really
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Speaker 2: big detail that makes his death seem not suspicious. Ken Starr,
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Speaker 2: who was investigating Bill Clinton for anything thing he could
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Speaker 2: possibly find, he investigated this, and he was the third
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Speaker 2: person to investigate it, and he came to the conclusion
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Speaker 2: that there was nothing suspicious about Vince Foster's death, And like, so,
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Speaker 2: what else do you need to hear?
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Speaker 3: Like, I he worked for Hillary Clinton, he was gonna
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Speaker 3: kill himself.
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Speaker 4: And didn't ken Starr make a big deal out of
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Speaker 4: a sperm covered dress. He would have definitely found something,
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Speaker 4: you know, with a damn murder victim, if there was
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Speaker 4: something tied to Clinton in gracious.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were only ever to get ever able to
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Speaker 2: get Clinton on like perjury basically. But yeah, ken Starr,
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Speaker 2: he he left no goddamn stone unturned. Like if he
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Speaker 2: could have got Clinton for fucking murder, he would have
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Speaker 2: done it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, he would have. He would have came in
20:52
Speaker 4: his pants just thinking about it.
20:54
Speaker 2: Right on that blue dress.
20:58
Speaker 3: Ken Starr's cross contaminated this saples the night before the investigation.
21:05
Speaker 2: All right, how about Paul Tully, He was the DNC
21:09
Speaker 2: political director. Conspiracy theory version of his death claims he
21:14
Speaker 2: was found dead in a hotel room with no apparent
21:17
Speaker 2: cause and that no autopsy was ever performed. There are
21:22
Speaker 2: two minor details that are wrong about that claim. One,
21:27
Speaker 2: there was absolutely an autopsy performed, and two it did
21:32
Speaker 2: find a cause of death, which was a massive heart attack.
21:36
Speaker 2: And I know what you're thinking, but how is a
21:39
Speaker 2: strapping young DNC political insider, probably in the best shape
21:44
Speaker 2: government money can buy that going is to come to
21:47
Speaker 2: a heart attack at such a young age. Paul Tully
21:50
Speaker 2: was obese, a heavy drinker, and a chain smoker in
21:55
Speaker 2: I think like his early forties, which that's kind of
22:00
Speaker 2: the holy trinity of things that kill people in their
22:03
Speaker 2: early forties.
22:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sounds like a comedian.
22:08
Speaker 2: Kind of Yeah, that's how I want to go in
22:11
Speaker 2: a hotel room, sleep apnea in a hotel room.
22:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to see a political operative that's not
22:18
Speaker 3: all buttoned up in model un type. You know. It
22:21
Speaker 3: was a low down and dirty fella exactly.
22:27
Speaker 2: The local coroner at the time actually told The Washington
22:31
Speaker 2: Post that he assumed it was a stroke or heart
22:34
Speaker 2: attack even before he did the autopsy, and the autopsy
22:38
Speaker 2: just kind of confirmed what he already knew.
22:41
Speaker 3: But is that what the corner likes to do? He goes,
22:43
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna call this one.
22:47
Speaker 2: Seemed a little unethical.
22:48
Speaker 3: I got it.
22:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be like this fat bastard here, probably a
22:53
Speaker 2: heart attack.
22:54
Speaker 3: Heart attackers, stroke, dimes to dollars.
22:58
Speaker 2: Or Clinton killed him, smothered him with his pillow or something. Yeah.
23:03
Speaker 2: You see a lot of this on the Clinton body
23:06
Speaker 2: count lists, where all it takes is for someone to
23:10
Speaker 2: die in a location that's not their home, and people
23:14
Speaker 2: are like, oh, that's suspicious. Now people get debouched as
23:18
Speaker 2: hell when they're.
23:19
Speaker 3: Bob, it's killed Bill Clinton when he moved that end table.
23:26
Speaker 2: Is that what he hit his head on?
23:27
Speaker 3: I believe?
23:28
Speaker 2: So, yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
23:31
Speaker 4: I don't have end table hotel room money, so.
23:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're saving the motel. Then you just catch syphilis.
23:44
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about ed Willie. This one is weird,
23:50
Speaker 2: but not weird in the oh. I think maybe Clinton
23:54
Speaker 2: was in on this one. It's just the details are
23:56
Speaker 2: fucking weird. Ed Willie was a former Virginias state senator
24:01
Speaker 2: and a lawyer. His wife, Kathleen, was active in Democratic
24:06
Speaker 2: state politics. She eventually testified in the Paula Jones lawsuit
24:12
Speaker 2: and claimed Clinton groped her, so obviously he had her
24:16
Speaker 2: husband killed, which is how this theory goes. There are
24:21
Speaker 2: a few problems here. For one, this guy, his death
24:24
Speaker 2: I don't think I mentioned was suicide, and he had
24:28
Speaker 2: lots of motivation to kill himself. He had stolen two
24:32
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars from an organization he
24:35
Speaker 2: worked with, and that was going to be found out soon.
24:39
Speaker 2: He owed the irs another half a million dollars. He
24:43
Speaker 2: left a note addressed to his wife that said saying
24:45
Speaker 2: I'm sorry doesn't begin to explain. I hope one day
24:49
Speaker 2: you will forgive me. And on top of that, while
24:52
Speaker 2: it is true that Bill Clinton is alleged to have
24:56
Speaker 2: groped ed Willie's wife, it was happening at the exact
25:01
Speaker 2: same time Ed Willie killed himself.
25:03
Speaker 4: Damn, that's cold.
25:05
Speaker 2: That is such a weird detail. But it also makes
25:08
Speaker 2: it pretty clear that Ed Willie was not killed because
25:13
Speaker 2: his wife was going to talk about that groping.
25:16
Speaker 3: Or in his infinite foresight, Bill Clinton had his murdered
25:20
Speaker 3: at the exact same moment he would make his carnal move.
25:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was just comforting her. How did
25:27
Speaker 2: he know already?
25:30
Speaker 3: You know the disturbance in the forest you just felt.
25:35
Speaker 2: And so yeah, she was meeting with Clinton when the
25:39
Speaker 2: suicide happened. So the chances of him being involved he
25:43
Speaker 2: literally zero.
25:44
Speaker 4: Yeah. Clinton just happened to be a disgusting jerk and
25:47
Speaker 4: was feeling up.
25:48
Speaker 2: That would be nuts. If he had this guy killed
25:51
Speaker 2: in advance, that would be a lot of foresight though.
25:56
Speaker 2: So Jerry Parks, he is one of the more mysterious
26:00
Speaker 2: deaths on the list. His death was very subtle. He
26:03
Speaker 2: was shot ten times with a nine millimeter handgun after
26:07
Speaker 2: leaving a Mexican restaurant in Little Rock, which I bet
26:11
Speaker 2: that food sucked.
26:12
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it had to be terrible.
26:14
Speaker 3: I got Mexican food in Arkansas once and it was
26:16
Speaker 3: like Hamburger, help helper and sour cream.
26:19
Speaker 4: Really bad.
26:22
Speaker 2: That does sound bad. So the thing about Jerry Parks
26:26
Speaker 2: is his security company guarded the Clinton's campaign headquarters in
26:32
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two, and there's a documentary out there where
26:35
Speaker 2: Jerry Park's son, Gary claimed his dad was gathering a
26:40
Speaker 2: dossier of Bill Clinton's various indiscretions and that his dad
26:46
Speaker 2: was using that to blackmail Bill Clinton. But also he
26:50
Speaker 2: never like produced any of that evidence his dad was collecting,
26:55
Speaker 2: so there's no like details about where that information went.
26:59
Speaker 4: I'd no idea was yeah, land of make believe.
27:05
Speaker 2: And a homicide detective investigated this, and while it remains unsolved,
27:10
Speaker 2: it seems like the most likely culprit was Jerry Park's
27:14
Speaker 2: former business partner who he had a massive falling out.
27:18
Speaker 3: With, who was Bill Clinton.
27:23
Speaker 2: Chelsea Clinton. Actually, I mean that is like the oldest
27:29
Speaker 2: motivation for murder ever, is money if some sort of
27:32
Speaker 2: business deal went awry. Like this just doesn't for one thing,
27:37
Speaker 2: it doesn't fit the Clinton body count. Mo o, Like,
27:41
Speaker 2: this isn't a mysterious suicide. It's not someone falling ill.
27:47
Speaker 2: Like this is a blatant assassination, which.
27:51
Speaker 4: They outsourced this one. They couldn't get the normal guy
27:55
Speaker 4: and he had to switch up his methods.
27:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, they called the normal guy and he's like no, no, no, no,
28:00
Speaker 2: my friend's cool. Yeah, he'll just he'll make it look
28:02
Speaker 2: like a suicide, no problem, calls him the next day like,
28:07
Speaker 2: what the fuck man times? I was a good Clinton
28:11
Speaker 2: by the way, all right, John Wilson. If this guy
28:16
Speaker 2: was connected, how come he still got that HBO show
28:19
Speaker 2: for one thing? But the conspiracy theory here claims that
28:25
Speaker 2: this guy was a former Washington DC council member who
28:30
Speaker 2: had ties to the Whitewater scandal and died of a
28:34
Speaker 2: very suspicious hanging suicide. I will say, a faked hanging
28:39
Speaker 2: to me is the most impressive. Like political assassination means, yeah,
28:45
Speaker 2: that takes some upper body strength to take some finesse.
28:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta hold the guy down.
28:51
Speaker 2: You gotta write a note to make.
28:53
Speaker 3: Him write a note. If you're really.
28:54
Speaker 4: Good, Yeah, make him write that note.
29:00
Speaker 3: It's cold blooded.
29:02
Speaker 2: The truth with this one is that for starters, this
29:05
Speaker 2: guy had zero connections to Bill Clinton. They just lived
29:08
Speaker 2: in the same city.
29:10
Speaker 3: That's Bill's city.
29:13
Speaker 2: Sure is, he's had tight control of it ever since
29:16
Speaker 2: he's been president. Other side has had no influence there
29:21
Speaker 2: at all. And also John Wilson had a long history
29:25
Speaker 2: of depression, he had marital problems, and really important detail,
29:29
Speaker 2: he had tried to kill himself four other times damn
29:33
Speaker 2: before this, which.
29:34
Speaker 4: If he got it done.
29:36
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's kind of that's like a weird way
29:39
Speaker 2: to think about it. But I feel like with each
29:42
Speaker 2: failed attempt, you're just gonna get more and more depressed. Like, yeah,
29:47
Speaker 2: I know that's an old joke, but like, like you
29:50
Speaker 2: can't tell you that old Yeah.
29:54
Speaker 3: I don't hear that one all the time. And then
29:56
Speaker 3: the third time he killed himself he was even more.
30:01
Speaker 3: But the fourth time, oh my god.
30:03
Speaker 2: But it would be a little disheartening to keep trying
30:06
Speaker 2: and fucking it up.
30:07
Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, definitely. It's like that old jocos.
30:12
Speaker 2: I heard it on the Tonight Show once.
30:14
Speaker 3: Now that'll make you want to kill yourself four times
30:16
Speaker 3: fortunately the Tonight Show.
30:19
Speaker 2: All right, Paul Wilcher, This one is a good example
30:23
Speaker 2: of how literally any death that happened during the Clinton
30:27
Speaker 2: administration gets thrown on to these lists, even when it
30:31
Speaker 2: makes zero sense. In this case, Paul Wilcher was found
30:35
Speaker 2: dead on the toilet in his home. Oh yeah, his
30:40
Speaker 2: death was attributed to natural causes. And what makes him
30:45
Speaker 2: being killed by Clinton so unlikely is that Wilcher was
30:49
Speaker 2: investigating the theory that in October surprise in the nineteen
30:55
Speaker 2: eighty election is basically what got George Bush and Ronald
31:00
Speaker 2: Reagan elected. And the theory is that George Bush traveled
31:04
Speaker 2: to Paris for a meeting where he secretly requested that
31:08
Speaker 2: the release of those fifty two American hostages in Iran
31:12
Speaker 2: be delayed until after the election. And so like, why
31:15
Speaker 2: would Clinton have that guy killed? Why would he have
31:18
Speaker 2: someone who was investigating the other side killed? I feel
31:22
Speaker 2: like George Bush put this one on the list.
31:28
Speaker 3: Because yeah, if it's a BBC the Bush body count,
31:32
Speaker 3: you don't hear about that one?
31:34
Speaker 2: Got JFK on it, way more impressive body.
31:38
Speaker 3: Yeah that is JFK is on that one.
31:40
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't there's there's just no reason why
31:43
Speaker 2: he would have done this. Also, whenever someone dies on
31:46
Speaker 2: their toilet, my assumption is that they've joined witness protection
31:51
Speaker 2: and went to live wherever Elvis lived in our teen
31:55
Speaker 2: Argentina with all the former naz.
31:57
Speaker 3: That's like government code for like they went to a
32:01
Speaker 3: farm upstate with Elvis and yeah, yeah, that's my head cannon.
32:06
Speaker 4: That's too that's too embarrassing. I mean, just why can't
32:10
Speaker 4: they just do like back in the old days, when
32:14
Speaker 4: someone died from auto erotic asphyxiation and just said that
32:17
Speaker 4: they committed suicide by hanging or something. Don't tell him.
32:21
Speaker 4: I was taking a crap and the crap was so
32:24
Speaker 4: mass of that my heart just came out. Don't tell
32:27
Speaker 4: him that.
32:29
Speaker 2: To death from the toilet.
32:31
Speaker 3: So they just alluded to it by saying where you died.
32:36
Speaker 3: That's your imagination there this to fucking aid and shit.
32:44
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Ron Brown. No relation. He
32:47
Speaker 2: was former Commerce secretary. He died in a plane crash
32:52
Speaker 2: in Croatia in nineteen ninety six. And on the one hand,
32:57
Speaker 2: I love a conspiracy theory that involves a plane crash
33:02
Speaker 2: because it's not like you can't rig a plane to crash,
33:06
Speaker 2: like that's perfectly possible. But the conspiracy here claims that
33:12
Speaker 2: an X ray of Ron Brown's skull revealed that he
33:16
Speaker 2: had actually been shot in the head, which like, just
33:19
Speaker 2: try to wrap your head around that. In order, like
33:24
Speaker 2: in plane view of thirty four other passengers, they shoot
33:28
Speaker 2: this guy in the head and then crash the plane,
33:32
Speaker 2: so there's no more witnesses, Like, if you're going to
33:36
Speaker 2: crash the plane, why shoot him, just crash the plane.
33:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, Also, it sounds like Bill clin really wanted to
33:42
Speaker 3: make an example out of this guy.
33:46
Speaker 2: Also, how did they get off the plane? Like, I
33:49
Speaker 2: guess that would be the easiest answers, You would parachute
33:53
Speaker 2: out of there, but.
33:55
Speaker 4: Oh, Indiana Jones it that's what they did.
33:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Cooper, But also another fourteen commerce department staffers
34:03
Speaker 2: died in that crash, so you can add all those
34:06
Speaker 2: names to this list too, which people do. But this
34:08
Speaker 2: was just a plane crash. Like, why would you shoot
34:11
Speaker 2: someone in the head and then cause a plane crash?
34:14
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the aviation standards in Croatia in the
34:17
Speaker 3: mid nineties were absolutely tip top, so it couldn't have
34:22
Speaker 3: been anything to do with those, right.
34:26
Speaker 2: This is the same kind of the same deal with
34:28
Speaker 2: these next two Kevin Ives and Don Henry.
34:31
Speaker 4: Oh no, see this one? Is this one? I have
34:35
Speaker 4: a thing on this one.
34:36
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
34:38
Speaker 4: This is a deep conspiracy right here. This is all
34:41
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory.
34:42
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely.
34:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
34:44
Speaker 2: These were Kevin Ives and Don Henry. They were a
34:47
Speaker 2: couple of teens who stole from a drug dealer and
34:50
Speaker 2: got beat to death over it, basically is what it seems.
34:54
Speaker 2: And their bodies were placed on train tracks and they
34:58
Speaker 2: got hit by a train. And because this happened in Arkansas,
35:02
Speaker 2: they got added to the Clinton body count list. Because
35:06
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton is responsible for every murder that ever happened
35:11
Speaker 2: in Arkansas.
35:12
Speaker 3: That's his state. Yeah, if it goes it doesn't go
35:15
Speaker 3: down there without him knowing about it.
35:16
Speaker 4: Yeah.
35:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the j Prince of Arkansas, you know, fucking
35:21
Speaker 2: to him. So from that point on, every person that
35:26
Speaker 2: these two knew who have ever died are also included
35:30
Speaker 2: in the Clinton body count conspiracy. And there there are
35:34
Speaker 2: a few murders of people who before they died said
35:37
Speaker 2: they had information about the death of Ives and Henry.
35:41
Speaker 2: But again, those two were murdered by a probably by
35:45
Speaker 2: a drug dealer for stealing drugs, So it stands to
35:48
Speaker 2: reason that that person would also kill witnesses and things
35:53
Speaker 2: of the like.
35:54
Speaker 4: Well, they say the well, this was a whole different
35:58
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory. But they say that the people who were
36:03
Speaker 4: dealing the drugs had a connection to Clinton and that's
36:08
Speaker 4: how they kept the cover up going. So I didn't
36:11
Speaker 4: even know that they were on the Clinton killed list.
36:15
Speaker 4: That's a whole different conspiracy that they just rammed into
36:19
Speaker 4: their merging universes.
36:22
Speaker 3: So wait, what they were they were kicking up to
36:24
Speaker 3: Bill Clinton when they were selling meths on the street.
36:27
Speaker 3: What were they doing?
36:28
Speaker 4: Well, so well, it was like a lawyer something and
36:34
Speaker 4: they knew Clinton somehow, And when they were getting investigated,
36:40
Speaker 4: Clinton shut it down the whole murdering drug dealing bit.
36:45
Speaker 4: And that's how he was connected to those boys, Like
36:50
Speaker 4: he didn't have them killed, but the person who did
36:55
Speaker 4: the killing, he kept them out of jail. And that's
36:58
Speaker 4: how that conspiracy theory.
37:00
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I could see that, but one
37:06
Speaker 5: that would be such a risky move on his part,
37:09
Speaker 5: and also it seems.
37:11
Speaker 2: Like it would be a bigger deal in like legitimate
37:15
Speaker 2: political discussion, because that would be a thing that would
37:19
Speaker 2: be really easy to confirm if he killed some sort
37:23
Speaker 2: of investigation into a drug dealer that people know was
37:27
Speaker 2: committing murders. You hear about that all the time. Yeah,
37:33
Speaker 2: I still want to check now though, because that was
37:37
Speaker 2: the thing with Jeffrey Epstein, Like for a long time
37:39
Speaker 2: people didn't realize what his plea deal was, Like yeah,
37:45
Speaker 2: and it was pretty fucking outrageous and it was clearly
37:49
Speaker 2: like politically motivated. Yeah, so I don't know, maybe.
37:53
Speaker 4: But I mean it was the eighties nineties. I mean,
37:57
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff could slip through the great blood.
38:00
Speaker 4: It just seems too What would Bill Clinton be worrying about,
38:04
Speaker 4: you know, drug money when he's got the entire state
38:07
Speaker 4: of Arkansas to fleece.
38:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a much bigger bag.
38:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can treat Arkansas as like his drug den
38:16
Speaker 4: instead of you know, just just these nickels and downs.
38:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:24
Speaker 2: And so the other thing about the Clinton body count
38:28
Speaker 2: conspiracy is you can kind of do this with any
38:33
Speaker 2: high profile enough figure, like you can find strange deaths
38:38
Speaker 2: attributed to them, Like Trump is a good example. For one,
38:42
Speaker 2: there's the hundreds of thousands of people he killed with
38:46
Speaker 2: his COVID policies, which I guess that's that's cheating, that's
38:51
Speaker 2: padding the list out a little bit. But even with Trump,
38:54
Speaker 2: there's a thing that happened in nineteen eighty nine where
38:58
Speaker 2: these three executives who ran and Trump's casinos in Atlantic
39:02
Speaker 2: City were killed in a helicopter crash. And at that time,
39:08
Speaker 2: all of those casinos were struggling a whole bunch, and
39:12
Speaker 2: eventually they all failed, and Trump blamed the failure of
39:17
Speaker 2: those casinos on those three executives. But like, does that
39:22
Speaker 2: mean he crashed that helicopter. No, it was actually a
39:26
Speaker 2: freak accident that was investigated. He just took the opportunity
39:31
Speaker 2: now that those three were dead, to be like, oh yeah,
39:34
Speaker 2: it was those three fuck faces who were fucking things up,
39:37
Speaker 2: not me, because what were they gonna do? Say he
39:40
Speaker 2: was lying.
39:41
Speaker 3: I wonder how many rich people die in helicopter accidents
39:44
Speaker 3: every year, because it does seem like that's like a
39:46
Speaker 3: natural disaster for being rich. You just will randomly get
39:49
Speaker 3: in the helicopter crash.
39:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, rich people and marines, they all seemed to die
39:55
Speaker 4: in helicopters.
39:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like once you're beaten traffic with a hellicopter,
40:00
Speaker 2: like you're you're like upper level, Like that's that's the
40:04
Speaker 2: extreme one percent. That's the one percentist of the one percent.
40:10
Speaker 3: You at a party to where the used people like tables.
40:15
Speaker 2: There is also a conspiracy theory that claims Russians tied
40:20
Speaker 2: to Trump's twenty sixteen election malfeasance are just dying left
40:26
Speaker 2: and right. But there's like only one name that people
40:29
Speaker 2: have attached to that. It's a guy named Alex Ornov,
40:33
Speaker 2: and he was absolutely not murdered. His family came out
40:37
Speaker 2: when news of his death started making the rounds in
40:40
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and they came forward and were like, no,
40:44
Speaker 2: he had a long illness, he had no connections to Trump.
40:47
Speaker 2: He just died. He was not murdered. And that's like
40:51
Speaker 2: the only real name people attribute to that conspiracy. But
40:55
Speaker 2: if you want to believe crazy shit about Trump.
40:58
Speaker 4: Well that's because liberal. It's amazing. And they didn't come
41:01
Speaker 4: up with more people for this list.
41:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if we could get like a consulting
41:07
Speaker 2: job concocting conspiracy theories for the left.
41:10
Speaker 3: Oh man, doing some R and D. Yeah, they could
41:14
Speaker 3: use some of that. Huh yeah, really galzanize the base.
41:17
Speaker 2: Like, there's plenty of insane shit you can say about
41:20
Speaker 2: the right that give.
41:21
Speaker 3: My dad believe in the Trump body count.
41:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also the JFK one that all of these
41:33
Speaker 2: people associated with the JFK assassination, like witnesses and things.
41:38
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've seen that one too, and that was
41:41
Speaker 4: just as ridiculous.
41:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:43
Speaker 2: I did a sub stack article about this thing I
41:47
Speaker 2: found at the Reagan Library. I went to the Reagan
41:50
Speaker 2: Library because there was an FBI exhibit there and I
41:54
Speaker 2: like crime shit, so I went to see all the
41:57
Speaker 2: crime stuff they had. The funniest thing there was their
42:00
Speaker 2: plaque about how they have always been invested in civil rights.
42:06
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. But the gift shop, I was like,
42:12
Speaker 2: all right, well, I fuck with a gift shop. Like
42:15
Speaker 2: hard you put me in a gift shop, I'm gonna
42:17
Speaker 2: buy something. But I wasn't gonna buy anything with Reagan's
42:22
Speaker 2: name on it, obviously, which left me two options. A
42:26
Speaker 2: massively inflated price wise bag of just regular ass jelly
42:31
Speaker 2: belly jelly beans. They didn't have like Reagan's anything. It's
42:37
Speaker 2: just a bag of jelly beans, and I can get
42:39
Speaker 2: those at Albertson's or any number of locations, which meant
42:42
Speaker 2: the only other thing I could get was a souvenir
42:47
Speaker 2: program from the Bobby Kennedy assassination. And I'm not fucking
42:52
Speaker 2: joking when I say it was a souvenir program. It's
42:58
Speaker 2: the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen. And it came
43:00
Speaker 2: out the day after Bobby Kennedy was assassinated, and it
43:05
Speaker 2: already had bullet trajectories and like all of this information
43:11
Speaker 2: about his murder, and it ended one with there was
43:16
Speaker 2: this like profile of the Kennedy family, and it just
43:19
Speaker 2: said one son left, and it was a picture of
43:23
Speaker 2: the fucking Kennedy who dreading the woman into the water. Yeah,
43:27
Speaker 2: Ted Kennedy, damn. And there was this picture that said
43:31
Speaker 2: one son left, and then the next when you flip
43:35
Speaker 2: the page, it was an article about how crazy it
43:39
Speaker 2: is that you can still buy guns through the mail
43:42
Speaker 2: and how that's just a recipe for someone wanting to
43:45
Speaker 2: carry this on to maybe do the same thing. And
43:48
Speaker 2: it's like, you're trying to get people to kill Ted
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Speaker 2: Kennedy with this way. Obviously, what's happening here. It's so
43:56
Speaker 2: goddamn weird. I still have it. It came with a
43:58
Speaker 2: certificate of authenticity.
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Speaker 3: So it's like a period piece. It was something that's
44:03
Speaker 3: actually from nineteen sixty whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was produced by this weird publisher in la
44:12
Speaker 2: who the only other thing they had published before that
44:15
Speaker 2: they were sued for publishing. Like they just came up
44:20
Speaker 2: with this idea that if you recopied books a certain way,
44:23
Speaker 2: you couldn't be sued for plagiarism, and they like copied
44:27
Speaker 2: this book and obviously got sued. And then I tried
44:32
Speaker 2: as hard as I could to find out anything about
44:35
Speaker 2: anything else they put out, And the only other thing
44:38
Speaker 2: was this fucking Bobby Kennedy souvenir assassination program.
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Speaker 3: That's so weird.
44:44
Speaker 4: It's a short history.
44:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I should do an episode about that thing.
44:49
Speaker 2: Goddamn Or you could just go read my substack article
44:52
Speaker 2: and hey, I think we've made it to the end
44:54
Speaker 2: of this.
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Speaker 4: Episode, right, goddamn it.
44:57
Speaker 2: Goddamn it, and I'm going to start using it more
44:59
Speaker 2: now that my fucking surgery drama is over and I'm
45:03
Speaker 2: mostly recovered. Yeah, long fucking time for my face to
45:06
Speaker 2: heal and miserable. But hey, thank you both for doing
45:10
Speaker 2: the pod. I appreciate it.
45:12
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, man, I really appreciate it.
45:16
Speaker 4: This is my this is my podcast when it comes
45:19
Speaker 4: when it comes out, I'm like, oh shit, I can't
45:24
Speaker 4: be around other people. I gotta be I gotta be
45:26
Speaker 4: chilling in my car for this one.
45:29
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for doing it. I appreciate it. What
45:33
Speaker 2: do we have to plug? Me and Connor have a
45:34
Speaker 2: show November tenth at the Sardine in San Diegro. It's
45:38
Speaker 2: gonna be good times. Lindsay Adams is also on the lineup.
45:41
Speaker 2: Kevin Anderson. There's music afterwards. Countless Thousands is playing a
45:46
Speaker 2: set other bands. Tickets for that will be on sale.
45:49
Speaker 2: They're actually on sale. If he checked Danger's Instagram, He's
45:53
Speaker 2: got it. Post it. I'll post it on my Instagram,
45:56
Speaker 2: which is the other thing I want to plug at
45:58
Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown. That's where IM gonna start doing updates
46:00
Speaker 2: about the podcast. I'm not keeping social media going for
46:03
Speaker 2: every fucking show I do. That's insane. It's insane.
46:06
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
46:07
Speaker 2: Hey, Harry, what do you got to plug?
46:10
Speaker 4: I have a special coming out. I don't know if
46:13
Speaker 4: I should call it a special. I filmed myself doing
46:15
Speaker 4: comedy and I'm putting it out on YouTube this Friday.
46:19
Speaker 4: It's called Harry J. Raleigh the Return of King Pepper Snake.
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Speaker 2: Check it out, Connor, what do you got?
46:26
Speaker 3: I have a special lot on YouTube called Live and Tucson.
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Speaker 3: Just searched up Connory spad Live and Tucson and that's
46:32
Speaker 3: it's our special. It's really funny. Go check it out.
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Speaker 4: That's good.
46:35
Speaker 3: That's good, thanks man.
46:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's it. Let's get the fuck
46:39
Speaker 2: out of here, Connor, say.
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Speaker 3: Goodbye, goodbye, everybody.
46:42
Speaker 2: Harry, say goodbye bye, goodbye, everybody. We love you.
46:51
Speaker 4: People out to be sure
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Speaker 2: That instant stress, instant structed in because that's stru