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Best Of Full Interview: Jasmine Guy Talks Relationship With Tupac, Jada Pinkett Smith, Freaknik, Hollywood + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ en vy Ess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club and we got a special
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  Speaker 2: guest in the building, the legendary Jasmine Guy. Welcome back,
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling.
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  Speaker 4: I felt great.
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  Speaker 5: I love doing your show the last time and I
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  Speaker 5: got a lot of positive feedback.
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  Speaker 1: I love you. Yeah, come on.
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  Speaker 5: It was a different kind of interview though than there.
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  Speaker 5: You to My daddy was like, you were a little
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  Speaker 5: too comfortable. You act like they were at your house. Champagne, right, yes,
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  Speaker 5: champagne whatever that was. I didn't even like it, and
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  Speaker 5: I was drinking that. But my father said that you
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  Speaker 5: would put more in when I was looking at Kadeen.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 5: He said, whenever you looked at Kadeen before, more in there.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm I'm thinking, I'm just drinking one glass.
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  Speaker 4: Were probably have four.
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  Speaker 5: Swanty whatever, but I'm drinking anywhere at seven o'clock in
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  Speaker 5: the morning.
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  Speaker 4: Embarrassing, is that you talking? You was just sitting back
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  Speaker 4: there just laughing.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, it was good because you ask questions that
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  Speaker 5: people don't usually ask. You know, we get the same
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  Speaker 5: questions over and over, especially about a different world. And
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  Speaker 5: I just like that it went into other areas of
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  Speaker 5: my life and my career and his too, because anybody
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  Speaker 5: can look at any interviews we've done and get those answers.
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  Speaker 5: It's the same answer, you know what I mean? So
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  Speaker 5: can we talk about something else? You know, can we
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  Speaker 5: bring it to another element that hasn't been explored with us?
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  Speaker 6: And you've done so much more since since, absolutely, like
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  Speaker 6: right now, you want your first Emmys went.
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  Speaker 4: For the Chronicles of Jessica Woo. Yes, that was a trip.
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  Speaker 5: So I was going to Mexico to hang out with
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  Speaker 5: my girlfriends, and I land and I get all these
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  Speaker 5: checks from people saying congratulation on your Emmy nomination, and
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  Speaker 5: I really thought people would messing with me.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even call them back. I said whatever.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't even And then when I realized I really
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  Speaker 5: had been nominated, I thought it was for the show Harlem.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Chronicles of Jessica Woo. I had done two. It was
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  Speaker 5: before COVID. It was a long time ago, and I
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  Speaker 5: only worked on it for a day. It was a
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  Speaker 5: very interesting project to me because the production company was
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  Speaker 5: a couple a small black production company. The superhero in
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  Speaker 5: the in the p had autism, but her powers that
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  Speaker 5: whatever put her on the spectrum made her a superhero.
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  Speaker 5: Their daughter had an autistic child anyway, So I said, well,
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  Speaker 5: I'll do it because I know after this they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: need distribution.
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  Speaker 4: And who knew that's what you know.
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  Speaker 5: What I'm saying, my love for them and what I
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  Speaker 5: know about you know, pitching ideas. You're gonna need a name.
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  Speaker 5: I know I've heard it all. And I said, well,
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  Speaker 5: I'll be your name. This is gonna be good. And
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  Speaker 5: it was a short series, like a wepisode series. The
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  Speaker 5: other Oscar nomination I got was also from an independent
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  Speaker 5: black company and it was my nephew Emmett, and I
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  Speaker 5: played im mitills aren't on the night that he was
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  Speaker 5: taken from their home, and I was like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 5: I do not want to go to Mississippi.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 5: We stayed right down the street from where he got abducted.
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi still got that same energy.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you change I was gonna say, I felt ghosts,
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  Speaker 5: yeah you know, And I did it, and they got
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  Speaker 5: nominated for an Oscar night. When the director called me,
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  Speaker 5: he was a graduate student from NYU Film School. His
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  Speaker 5: mentors with Spike Lee and Casey Lemmon's right Beautiful Brother,
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  Speaker 5: and the and the crew and everybody. I had a
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  Speaker 5: great artistic experience. But when he told me we, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we got nominated for an Oscar, I thought he was
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  Speaker 5: messing with me.
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  Speaker 1: That saunds a lot though, like about how you know.
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  Speaker 6: I guess black actors and actresses are conditioned in Hollywood
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  Speaker 6: that when they get told that they're even nominated, they
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  Speaker 6: don't believe it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, when you ignored long enough, you got the message.
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  Speaker 5: I got the message. If you're not nominating a different world,
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  Speaker 5: Debbie Allen, Susan fails our wardrobe department, any other actor
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  Speaker 5: on that show. I stopped focusing on y'all giving me
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  Speaker 5: my props. I know who gives me my props. And
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  Speaker 5: I told the actors, I said, we just gotta be good,
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  Speaker 5: you know, forget all these accolades or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: They obviously do you.
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  Speaker 5: Know how many times they said to me, even on
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  Speaker 5: I think I did Dennis Miller, remember Dennis Malanta talk show.
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  Speaker 5: He started with, so how does it feel being between
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  Speaker 5: number one and three? And I was stunned because I
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  Speaker 5: just sat down, you know, you come out all cute
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  Speaker 5: and whatever. And I was like, he said, that wasn't
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  Speaker 5: a good lead in question. I said, no, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about Cosby and Tears.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody said we were number two because we came between them, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the first question. That was the message.
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  Speaker 5: That was the message that we got this actors as
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  Speaker 5: you know, performers, and we never got our props for
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  Speaker 5: not not just the acting, but it was Debbie Allen,
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  Speaker 5: Susan fails me.
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  Speaker 4: Three black women in charge of that show. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: We could have been on the cover of Essence, and
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  Speaker 5: I just knew who really saw us and who really
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  Speaker 5: understood us?
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  Speaker 1: Why when that worked?
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  Speaker 5: Fight for that's the same white motherfuckers said.
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  Speaker 7: Cold up to date, you came to the right shows.
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  Speaker 2: You can't say that word, so you can go back
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  Speaker 2: here the same white motherfuckers make sure you forget.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same world. Just look, okay.
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  Speaker 5: So Carcy Warner, our producers also produced a show with
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  Speaker 5: Whoope Goldberg called Bag That Cafe, Grace, under Fire in
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  Speaker 5: The Roseanne Show and the Cosmic Show. Right, so we're
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  Speaker 5: one of five. They never asked us to do anything.
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  Speaker 5: They asked Roseanne bar to sing the national anthem, in
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  Speaker 5: which she grabbed her crotch because she can't sing. But
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  Speaker 5: we got five singers on our show. You could have
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  Speaker 5: had don me kree. You know, never when we got
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  Speaker 5: offered things that would have.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just got things.
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  Speaker 5: We got things on our own, and I never felt
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  Speaker 5: a part of that network. Then when I saw what
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  Speaker 5: happened with Friends, I was like, Yo, that would have
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  Speaker 5: helped us. It would have helped us with work after
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  Speaker 5: the show. It would have given us some props, you
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  Speaker 5: know that we could have used for future projects.
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  Speaker 4: I pitched a lot.
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  Speaker 5: I have my own production company After a Different World.
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  Speaker 5: All of my projects were rejected, but then I started
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  Speaker 5: to see them that was which ones.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that.
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  Speaker 5: I had a TV idea about a young woman that
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  Speaker 5: inherited a sweatshop in the garment district from her gay
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  Speaker 5: friend that died of AIDS and but she still saw
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  Speaker 5: him as a ghost.
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  Speaker 4: I had even talked to Rue Paul about being my ghost.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: They was just everything was a reason not to do it.
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  Speaker 5: But then I would see a white girl do it.
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  Speaker 5: Then I had this idea about what was the name
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  Speaker 5: of that spy show.
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  Speaker 4: It was a.
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  Speaker 5: French movie, independent movie, Anda Okay, So I thought this
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  Speaker 5: would be fierce well Robin Givens. So I wrote up
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  Speaker 5: a treatment for a pilot version of it. No Robin Givens,
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  Speaker 5: but a white American girl doing it. So I was like, well,
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  Speaker 5: I know my ideas are valid, but I just started
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  Speaker 5: divorcing myself like a bad relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Stop asking for what you know you're not gonna get.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have a parking space like Don Johnson after
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  Speaker 5: Miami Vice.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he was the star of the number two
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  Speaker 6: show on the network, one of the biggest shows on television.
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  Speaker 6: On it too, right, no o, I thought you reduce
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  Speaker 6: on it. No, but even even still a star of
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  Speaker 6: that show can't have.
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  Speaker 1: A parking spot.
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  Speaker 4: I had a parking spot, but he had a production deals.
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  Speaker 5: When I'm saying, after you did Miami Vice, he had
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  Speaker 5: a production deal, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I just thought that we were we were ready and
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  Speaker 5: well equipped to move on into other areas. I definitely
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  Speaker 5: wanted to be a producer because I had met so
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  Speaker 5: many people on a different and I wanted to bring
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  Speaker 5: this writer with this director, you know, and the ideas
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  Speaker 5: that I had were not being done. The Dorothy Dandrids story,
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  Speaker 5: I pitched that for years. I had to educate first,
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  Speaker 5: who's the arthy dying dry? I told them it wasn't condescending.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't want to say the black Marilyn Monroe
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  Speaker 5: because that's all they understand is a black version of
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  Speaker 5: what we already know. So I don't use that term
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  Speaker 5: when I'm pitching. And the movie got done. It just
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  Speaker 5: got done without me. And after a while, I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I understand, you know what I mean. It's like a
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  Speaker 5: bad relationship. After a while, you gotta understand, Okay, I
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  Speaker 5: ain't what you want.
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  Speaker 4: This is, and this is, and so is all of
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  Speaker 4: this and other things.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure as what leads up to Uncensored Jasma God like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you know what's steel?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 5: I did uncensored because I did Intimate Portrait on lifetime.
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  Speaker 5: I did Unsung, but they were in different decades of
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  Speaker 5: my life. I mean, Intimate Portrait must have been in
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  Speaker 5: my forties and then fifties, and now I'm in my sixties.
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  Speaker 5: And I said, I may have a different perspective on
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  Speaker 5: my truth. The same things happen, but I feel differently
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  Speaker 5: about them. I have a different perspective and I'm not
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying not to be so precious about my private
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  Speaker 5: life because I really do this. When people get like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's mine. I feel like I do enough
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  Speaker 5: with my work for the public. That is my gift
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  Speaker 5: to the audience, That is my way of communicating. You
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  Speaker 5: don't need to know who I'm sleeping with their business,
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  Speaker 5: don't need to be in the street.
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  Speaker 2: You from that era, though, Like that era was you
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  Speaker 2: didn't really see your favorite celebrity, favorite actress, favorite actor,
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  Speaker 2: and when you did, everybody went batshit crazy because you
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  Speaker 2: never did. Like our favorite celebrities growing up as a kid,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't know who they dated. We didn't know where
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  Speaker 2: they went to, we didn't know where they lived, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't know any of that. And that was part of
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  Speaker 2: the mystique of them being a superstar celebrity.
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  Speaker 4: But it's also private.
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  Speaker 5: I don't feel like I didn't understand why celebrities were
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  Speaker 5: saying private things.
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  Speaker 4: When nobody even asked you.
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  Speaker 6: That you'll make you talk.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, why are you nobody asked you? Nowadays, I
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  Speaker 5: so with the oh, and I also get an Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I've had an account, but.
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  Speaker 5: My makeup artist said when he went on my social
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  Speaker 5: media that it was vented, not the V word that
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  Speaker 5: I had not post. I said, I don't know what
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  Speaker 5: to post. I don't know what's interesting because work fulfill
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  Speaker 5: so many parts of me. If I'm not working, I
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  Speaker 5: really don't have nothing to say. What I did today,
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  Speaker 5: I colored, I did crossword puzzles.
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  Speaker 2: People are into that, They're into your life outside of
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  Speaker 2: just acting into what does Jasmine guy do?
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  Speaker 3: What does she enjoy?
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  Speaker 1: What is she like?
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  Speaker 3: You know, because we know.
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  Speaker 1: Who you are on.
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  Speaker 3: Like a fumous boring people want to see that.
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  Speaker 2: They want to understand that. They want to see what
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  Speaker 2: your life's like. If you just sit outside and you
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  Speaker 2: knit all day, what.
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  Speaker 1: Are you knitting? Why?
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  Speaker 2: And to be honest with calms you down? Because maybe
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  Speaker 2: what calms you down will helped calm me down. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: something that you do can help guide me through my life.
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  Speaker 2: So people are into what people do.
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  Speaker 7: And now we need some boring shit because like everybody's
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  Speaker 7: wilding out here I'm talking about So.
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  Speaker 4: I'm interested in what you be knitting. I want to
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  Speaker 4: see my next Afghan.
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  Speaker 5: No, but it's kind of like that I like calm.
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  Speaker 5: I love my friends. My favorite thing in the world
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  Speaker 5: is when my friends come by my apartment. And I
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  Speaker 5: live in Midtown in Atlanta, so I'm accessible because in
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  Speaker 5: New York I used to have an apartment on seventy
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  Speaker 5: eighth Street between Columbus and Central Park. Everybody come through there.
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  Speaker 5: If you lived in Queens, if you lived in Jersey,
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna come by my and I love that, and
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  Speaker 5: so that's one of my favorite things is having my
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  Speaker 5: people over.
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  Speaker 4: And I've been cooking to I've been watching TV.
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  Speaker 3: People like to see what does Jasmine got cooked? What's
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  Speaker 3: your favorite meal?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to make the perfect chicken wing for me.
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  Speaker 5: No, I've made them and make them every week, but
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  Speaker 5: for me, other people eat them and they're okay, but
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  Speaker 5: I want a certain consistency I think. I'm I can't
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  Speaker 5: get a deep fryer because of my apartment. I can't
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  Speaker 5: have it on the on the patio. So I've tried
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  Speaker 5: all different kinds. They're good and I've done the marinading
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  Speaker 5: and everything.
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  Speaker 4: Also, I've learned meatballs.
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  Speaker 5: I got a good meatball let people like and.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's real and port.
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  Speaker 5: I'll make you some turkey, Teresa, No, chrisa sport too,
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  Speaker 5: I make you some.
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  Speaker 4: But I gave a cheesecake.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm using my mother's cheesecake recipe and I'm just
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  Speaker 5: doing them over and over until I get it.
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  Speaker 4: My daddy is my guinea pig.
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  Speaker 5: He has to try out my food and give me notes,
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  Speaker 5: tell me if it's dried, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And my friend Jamala loves my cheesecakes.
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  Speaker 5: So I made one for the house, gave it to
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  Speaker 5: her and I was like, you know, let me know
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  Speaker 5: how it is or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: She gave her mother one piece and she ate the
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  Speaker 4: rest of it.
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  Speaker 5: That's because she's had three whole cheese cases.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she love anything.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, Jamala, let me tell you what's in
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  Speaker 5: this because you can't.
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  Speaker 4: So she wrote a book about her daughter.
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  Speaker 5: It's a children's book called Mommy, I Think I Have Diabetes.
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  Speaker 5: She found out her daughter as diabetes, but it was
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  Speaker 5: from her daughter.
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  Speaker 4: This was a true story.
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  Speaker 5: She made a children's book, and I said, your second
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  Speaker 5: book is going to be Mommy. I think you got
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  Speaker 5: you beating whole cheesecakes, right, I'm glad you like them
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  Speaker 5: and whatnot, But you know, you can't beating the whole one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta ask you.
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  Speaker 2: Know you mentioned earlier that you know when you do
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  Speaker 2: these interviews, people ask the same questions about a different world.
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  Speaker 2: Are you tired of being of talking about a different
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  Speaker 2: world since you had I mean that was thirty years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but then I stirty seven thirty seven?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: But then I see you on the HBCU tours going
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  Speaker 2: from school to school. I see you having those conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Are you just done with talking about that part of
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  Speaker 2: your life?
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  Speaker 5: I'm not done with that part of my life because
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  Speaker 5: people are exploring, they're asking me the same things. What's
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  Speaker 5: your favorite episode? They want me to see the wedding show.
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  Speaker 5: That wasn't my favorite episode, that's your favorite episode. I
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  Speaker 5: love when the kids ask questions. So we go to
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  Speaker 5: these schools, we have a moderator. This past when we
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  Speaker 5: did spell them in Morehouse and Clark, we had seven
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  Speaker 5: of us.
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  Speaker 4: I love that too.
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  Speaker 5: Usually it's no more than four of us. And when
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  Speaker 5: the kids get to ask the questions, their questions are different.
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  Speaker 5: They're not asking those same things. I mean, really, you
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  Speaker 5: could do your research and know the answer already, of course,
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  Speaker 5: but the kids are like when you were nineteen blah
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  Speaker 5: blah blah when you first left home. What did you
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  Speaker 5: think about your character this? I mean intelligence, especially them
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  Speaker 5: Spellman girls. First of all, they acted like we were
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  Speaker 5: rock stars. They were just after shame when we came out.
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  Speaker 5: Then one girl said, Miss Charnell, Miss Charnell, I want
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  Speaker 5: to thank you for being a presence for dark skinned girls.
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  Speaker 5: Miss Jasmine, thank you for showing me confidence. And Miss Cree,
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  Speaker 5: thank you for being the odd ball.
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  Speaker 4: That was her.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she was saying, I see you and you helped
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  Speaker 5: me see me. And you don't know you're doing all
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  Speaker 5: that when you're just playing your role, you know, But
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  Speaker 5: I know Debbie knew.
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  Speaker 4: I knew Debbie knew what she was doing when she
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: hired Korea and Seanell that second season. It was very deliberate.
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking about Sean.
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  Speaker 7: I was, yeah, what were you saying?
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  Speaker 6: We had a whole conversation about who was the most
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  Speaker 6: beautiful on a different world, and you know, he turned
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  Speaker 6: into that.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, man, Kimberly Reach was the one.
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  Speaker 4: He was the one.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: You think this should you think there should be another
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: show or maybe they should relaunch it? And the reason
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: is last time I tell you the reason I went
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to college and HBCU and Hampton was because I seen
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a different world and I wanted that experience coming from
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Queen's right, I was like, I want that. I don't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: know if people see that anymore, if they see what
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a college looks like and the experience and not just
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the partying, but real life, real situations and
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: everything going on.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I think that's missing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: It is not there.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: And I thought when we did, you know, because when
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I did a Different World, we were coming off school
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: days and it was you know, months in between the projects.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: So it felt like we're a part of a wave.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that it crested and was over because
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Fox started with Rock Dutton show, some bad show even
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you know before Martin, and once they got launched, they
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: dropped those black shows.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Same with c W. You saw what happened with the Game.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: But I thought we were part of a new, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: don't know, a new entertainment phase for black people.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It wasn't renaissance, but it was over.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: After Cosby left it. They just snatched everybody off. They
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: couldn't wait to get our time slot.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've had a lot of conversations about that. I
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: feel like after the nineties it was an intentional It
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: was intentional and strategic by Hollywood to change the image
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: of black people.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I really feel that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: We think so too, Charla Mane.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: It went from great scripted shows where people had jobs
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: and Caribs to reality television.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Wait, they don't have to pay nobody until you make
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: it big or whatever.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: And now even with Harlan and I loved that show
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: and I love doing it, and I don't understand the
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: streaming thing. Amazon had us for ten ten episodes of
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: first season eight, the second season, this season six. So
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: what you're doing, I don't know. We have to do
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: twenty two episodes a season. What you're doing is you
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: can't give anybody long enough work, right, So the writers
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: on a series, they're given up four or five months.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: They're getting paid, but now six, that's two months working.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know, And I don't know why they're doing
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: it with Harlem because people like that show, you know
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: what I mean, And it shows Harlem in a beautiful way.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: It's vibrant and alive, and it's not gray and boarded
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: up like the Harms like you know, it ain't coolly
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: high and cornbread early in me Harlem. It's a celebration,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: So I don't know why they're not committing. I find
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: it selfish that you don't give a show enough legs
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: to succeed.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: And let Tracy oli her do what she do.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I had so much influence, you know Jamaine du previous
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: here yesterday really and that they did.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: A Freaknik documentary. Oh have you ever.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Been a Freaknick? No.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I was in LA during that time, but I've heard
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: about it. They shutting down nine twenty. There were a
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: lot of babies made during that sure.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: They said that actually Different World made Freaknick even bigger.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I guess you had an episode where the girls talked
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: about going to Freaknik and not telling their parents.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the younger crew like Jada and them.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they said that amplified it a thousand. So
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: many people watching.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Different World, it was like, we're going down to freaking
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: you call some people to get pregnant. Day's Child's question
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: is God, you find a sense of vindication in this
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: award at this stage of your career.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: No, you know what I felt.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I was really surprised at how happy I was when
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I when I got it. I really felt like I
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: won that award for a different world in Atlanta.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: And I say Atlanta because when I got to New York,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: I had been trained that I had been poured into,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: you know, with my dance schools, my teachers and performing
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: our school, I went to my.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Church, you know.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: And then I also knew that even though I was
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: glad that the show won, you know, Jessica Wo, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: just felt like it was for a different world.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: It's for what nobody you know.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Got back then you dedicated your award to a different
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: That's the reason why, just because you felt like, yeah, I.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Was like, this is ours.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Because I know what made that show good, and I
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: know we didn't get our props.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: That's right from white people.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: I have six Image Awards to Soul Trained Awards.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Because they know what that does.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: It gives you power in the Hollywood system. We're not
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: giving them that. That's so disrespectful to me. It's not
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: like a person I could cuss out. It's just a
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: cloud of white people, like white Hollywood. Because if that
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: show would just look what they do with friends and
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: what they did with living single, just look at the publicity,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: how much money they made, They were at the Golden Globes.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: They got movies power.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: We are no less talented and the writing was awesome
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: on the Different World because they're doing deep subjects and
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: they have to keep us funny because the network wanted
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: us funny. They said, well, if we're gonna do this
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: age show, how are we gonna make it funny? Well,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: maybe Whitney's gonna lose her virginity during what's the B line?
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: That's gonna not make it so heavy? You know, they
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: have to do that for everything the Riot show that
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: they have to still mix in the humor. And I
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: think we did that well and that Susan fails Hill.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: I'm so proud of lean A Wade and Easta Ray
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: to see them as showrunners and starring and this and that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, they are fierce, and I hope they
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: get their props.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: But I wonder, how do you think this recognition of
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the award contributes to the broader conversation about diversity and
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: representation in Hollywood, especially for like o G veteran actresses
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: like yourself who've made significant contributions.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Over a decade.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, so what like what does this do?
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Like the award has to do something being that Javelin
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: I can still be so good at this stage in
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: her career that she's still Oh.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, it does feel validating. And I even said when
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I accepted the award, you know, thank you for keeping
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: me in this community, because the creative community is my world,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: whether it's in the New York or LA or Atlanta.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: You know, valid my people, and you know, with the
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: pandemic and then six seven months on strike, I'm like.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I need to work. I need to be with my people.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: You know, I need other creatives. I need stories at lunchtime.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: And that goes for everybody that goes for him makeup, wardrobe.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Everybody is expressing themselves and there's a virtual connection to that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: So I did feel that way.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: But it has been good to see my peers like
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Regina King, Victoria Mahony, Sally richardson the Girls that I
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: was like acting with doing like directing and killing it
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: like that, and Tasha Smith directed the last episode.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I did a Harlem.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: That's nature of nature.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: As my girl.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: We needed it. It was a very long day. It
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: was a long shooting day, and her energy was and
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: what I was so impressed was was her technical acumen.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: She really knew her cameras, you really knew what she wanted.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: She had to map out a ten page scene, which
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: is very long for you know, anything from movie or
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: TV scene, and I don't know, she just did a
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: beautiful job. It was the only episode I've done on
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: that show where I saw other people, because all my
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: episodes that were Gray Spyers. She's my daughter, well i'm
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: her mother, I should say she's and everybody was there
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: at this event, so I got to see Bebby Smith
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: was there, Whoopy was there. I don't know what was exciting.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I was kind of fanned out too. Yeah, it's amazing.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I've seen a clip that was released from You Uncensored
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: and it talks about being a mixed child. Was that
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: very difficult in the industry going at that time where
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you're going up for auditions and people are saying, well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: she's not white or and then well maybe she's.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Not black enough. Was that difficult?
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: I always defined myself as a bla black, but I
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: didn't get roles because I was too light sometimes or
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: I got like the my first after I left Alvin Ailey,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: I did musical theater Broadway and whatnot, and then I
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: started taking acting classes and going out for auditions, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I played three hoes before I go with Ley. I'm
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: just saying, I asked my agent. I was like, is
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: this normal?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, I played a prostitute.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: On the Equalizer, I played a hoe on Loving, which
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: was so a soap opera back then.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: And then on my third when I said, okay.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Is this and I was nailing them whatever it is about.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Ship before I got back to my formare, I was like, okay, but.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you tap into to be able to like really
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: play a hope.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: The way they write it, they usually write I usually
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: do sarcasm well, and they're usually snarky.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Now the other activities the I mean on the Equalizer,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I was the whole that they bought for the guy
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: that just came out of prison. Oh my god, this
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: scene was nasty and I'm like surprised, and I come
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: out and I'm supposed to do him because he's just
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: been in prison. And then in the scene he starts
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: coughing and I say, you catch something nasty where you've.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Been and he grasps me by the hair and slams
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: me on.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Trauma.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: I got a little too snarky, but I didn't know
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: that that should have been blocked.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: It was one of my first acting jobs. So because
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I'm a dancer, I was able to go, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: slam myself down. All you have to do is, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: and make it look like he was just and then
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: fall and I did it over and over in The
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: director was like, are you okay. It wasn't until after
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: that I talked to some of my actor friends and
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: they were.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Like, nobody blocked you.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Nobody.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I said, no, it was just like a you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: a dance move or whatever.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: But yeah, then when I auditioned for a Whitley, first
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: of all, they didn't even have her name yet. It
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: was Sydney slash Whitney, a black Southern bell. I'm like,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: things that make you go a black Southern bell, you
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: don't know say anyway, she was hitting on her professor
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: for an a in the scene.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Another horror.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're ruffles.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: But when I got on the set, now she's a
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: virgin and she doesn't know what's going on in the world.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: It's just interesting because you play things based on who
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: they tell you you're supposed to be, and then as
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: actors we often do backstories and you know, make up
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: something that got us to this point, so we have
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: something to lean on. But yeah, I was thinking, Wow,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I guess I'm just gonna be. It wasn't that I
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: was playing a horror prostitute. It was just that I
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: wanted to play all kinds of characters. Yeah, I've always
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: wanted that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got to ask a question, This is a personal question.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: When you started off dancing as a child, right, did
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you know what direction you wanted to go into? So
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I got two girls that dance, right, and then I
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: travel all over the country, damn with these these little babies.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And I mean they are amazing. One one first prize
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: overall seven year old or one thousand girls first prize.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: But what Yes, they get busy. They take it serious.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Six days a week, four hours a day, gymnastics, flipping,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: backflip dancing.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Whoa, it's a lot.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: But I've learned to love it, like really enjoy it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: But you know, as a dad, I always think, like, well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: what's next after dancing? Like what do you do as
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a dance Like when you get to high school and college,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Like what happens from that? Did you know what you
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: wanted to do going into Alvin Aley.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: And Okay, So when I was a little kid, I
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: thought I just kept asking for more classes, like once
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: a week. Saturday turned into three turned into five.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: And when I saw Alvin Ale and I saw revelations,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I realized that I could do this as a job.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't realize that you could dance as a job
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: other than be a dance teacher. That's all I was seeing.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: And I I told my daddy, I said, I think
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: I have my calling. I want to dance with Alvin Ailey.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: So from twelve to seventeen, that was the trajectory, kind
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: of on a level where you are with your girls,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: because I danced every day. After that, I went to
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: perform in arts high school, I joined Atlanta Ballet. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: went to North Carolina School of the Arts over the
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: summer because I knew that I was not technically proficient
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: enough to get into the Ailey company, but I was
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: also performing. I played Anita in Westside Story and I
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: was young. I was like thirteen, and I could al
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: already act and I could sing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: But it was that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Because you know, you can't fake dancing. You could either
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: dance or uk. I mean, it's an athletic.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: So that's when I knew do they want to do
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: it as a profession.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: They don't know right now. One is seven, one is ten,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and they just enjoy it and they want more. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: it's not just ballet, it's not just open for and mad.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It's just it's everything. It's it's jazz, it's it's tab
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it's now they just started getting in their hip hop.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: But for me, it's like I enjoy it because I
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: know where they are right I know they're not gonna
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: want to go to their friend's house. I know they're
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: not gonna want to go to the mall because they
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: enjoy so much. School's over at two forty. From three
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: to seven, they dancing, seven, they come home, do homework,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: They tired, And I enjoy it because I like watching
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: them like I'm the There's not too many dads out
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: there for some reason, but I'm the one that's I
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: know the routine and I'm spinning with them because I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: if they enjoyed it, I enjoy it. But it's I
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: feel like more people, more kids should get into it
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: because it's it's it's a it's a great art. Yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it's a great art.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: And they gave me my foundation for everything, Discipline, being
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: on time, confidence, Like even when I got a different world.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: I remember one of our our script ees, she came
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: up to me and she said, are you a dancer?
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: And I was just standing there and I was like, yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Like what gave me away?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not what?
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I was always on time. I was always there waiting
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: for everybody else. I did not understand the way they
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: did it and all the breaks they take.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what are we breaking for? We ain't done
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: nothing right. Dancers are the mules of the business.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: If the actors are coming out every now and then,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: if we like when I did Fame, we were in
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: rehearsal or performing all day, ten hours, actors going to
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: trailers and coming back when we did school Days, you
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: couldn't be in that movie if you couldn't dance, sing
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: an act first of all. But that meant we all
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: came from theater. We shot, we filmed the Uh well,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: I mean we recorded the song I Want to be
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Alone tonight after we filmed that day, and then they said, okay,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: now you're going to the studio and we went and
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: we learned the song and did it, and then we
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: learned the choreography and performed it. But that's how we do,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: especially in New York and especially in theater. All my
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: dancing friends can sing, and that all my acting friends
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: can dance to sing. We had to be triple threats
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: to continue to work. You think them divers from Dreamgirls,
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Loretta Divine, Shirley, Ralph, Jennifer.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Lewis you built for it, you know?
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: So when we go out there, we're not even asked
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: to work at our full.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Potential, you know what I mean.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: And your babies are gonna be like that too, in
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: whatever they do, because that kind of training is like
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: an athlete.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: I want to talk about another training you've probably got
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: because you know, you carry yourself with a certain sense
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: of legalness, right And when you look at Debbie Allen,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: when you look at fore Lisha Rashad, they have that
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: same regal energy.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: What did those two teach you?
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, everything. I mean, Debbie was ahead of me.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: So every time people told me, well, you're mostly a dancer,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: we don't know about you acting, or you're a comic actress,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: we don't know about you doing drama, in my mind,
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: I go Debbie Dead. I just let them tell me
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: what they thought I couldn't do. And it wasn't just
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: that I knew I could. She's already done it. She
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: just did it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: She had two.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Lines in the Fame movie when you see her next
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: she's directing, choreographing the show she's producing.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: You can't let other people tell you what you can do.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: You don't know, and the other mantra it's had, especially
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: like when people were certain choreographers. You know, it's not
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: a nice world, the dance world, so they're reading me
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: or cussing me out, whatever, and I would say, you
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: don't know, you're not God all in my mind, so
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't cry because I was like, don't you you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: don't you stand up here and let him make you cry,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: because he's saying, you know, you think you're something, you'll
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: never be anything.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: And I was like, you don't know, you're not God.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: How you gonna proclaim my destiny? You know?
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: So you have to be able to talk to yourself.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: And Debbie is the same way, Felicia is the same way.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: They have a sense of self. Because Debbie told me
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: about how they rejected her at North Carolina School of
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: the Yards because she didn't have a body for dance
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: because she got a booty in whatever. And she said,
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: and I took this booty all the way to Broadway, Darling.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: You know, Okay, you don't want me in your school, Well,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to Howard and then I'm gonna be
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: on Broadway and then and then and then. You can't
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: let other people tell you what you are and what
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: you're not. Yeah, And I refuse that. I refuse that
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: on just a general level. Like there were little dancers
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: in my class that were great dancers, but a little
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: chunky or whatever. And I heard how the teachers talked
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: to them, you know, destroying them. How dare you? How
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: dare you take your responsibility and do that to her.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: You'll know what she's gonna be, and you're only gonna
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: go with skinny, tall people.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: I just don't like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: If you're gonna teach kids in art form, don't add
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: your bitter two cents to it because you didn't with
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: your fat ass.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: That's not that's not politically correct. The political correct term
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: is big back.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: No, it's not just do women say that? Or is
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: that a melt discovered? I'm not.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Due term, dude. They didn't think I'm gay. He discovered
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: I'm no that baby got big bag.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Soundright coming from us?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: That's heard you.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: It just comes up every now and then, and if
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: they don't see me with a man, like when I
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: was I was at an oscar party of Georgia's and
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: I was dancing with Debbie and all the fame dancers
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: were there, like, you know, she keeps all her people.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: They got me, you know, photo of the week, me
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: and Debbie and they're talking about.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Me and the hair salon. I knew it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: I think they together, and Norm calls me he loved it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I said, well, I'm single. I don't like that. He said, yeah,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: that's some funny sh I said, funny for you because
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: you're like, yeah, I'm with Debbie and she's with Jasmine.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Then it came up when I was at a last
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what it is. I don't care,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: but it's just I don't want to have to undo it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: And then you know, in New York it was I
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: got hit on and stuff and I was like, okay,
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: but what made.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: You think that I like bother me? You know, I
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: was just developing into my womanhood.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Stuff.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't have.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Caf and it was funk night, and I would go
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: there by myself. Sometimes you can't always have somebody come
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: with you, you know, and so some sometimes I think
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: it's because I'm alone. And then, you know, my best
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: friend at a Lea's, we were walking through the park
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: and unbeknownst to us, we were walking in the.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Wooded gay area.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: The valley, the jail.
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: Okay, somebody's eyes there and you didn't know we were
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: in a certain area or whatever, because I don't know.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: And then when I got back to the school, they
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: were like, you know, they're saying that you and so
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: and so. I was like, I don't even have a boyfriend.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: How can I have a girlfriend? Okay, like I can't
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: even work. You know, it doesn't bother me.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: But when I was younger, it did because I was
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: still developing.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: And they was pulling up on you.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I was developing as a young woman. Yeah, would you
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: ever do a memoir?
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: I know, I mean you know you got done since
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: it coming out this weekend, But would you ever do
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: a memoir?
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: I would need I would need some help, you know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: I would just need some help. I can't write it
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: myself by myself.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, most people get help with them memoir
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: because I loved reading Jada Pinket's book Worthy because like
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: you know, and we were saying early and you were
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: saying it was such a privacy.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: In the nineties.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: So to get those stories from that era when she
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: talks about you and you know, Pock and just your friendship,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: just that friendship of black Hollywood, it's just like man.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: And now I was like.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Privileged enough to hang with them because there's so much
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: younger than me, you know, and it was just easy.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: You know, her birthday party and we went to The
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: dragon Fly, which was funk night that night.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I like me some funk.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm like, it's funck. Now you're a Dragonfly. But
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: and you know, accepting of me because.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: So I think, hold is Jada fifty?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, let me look it up.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I think, well, I'm sixty two.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: So when I'm on the show, I'm twenty five, twenty six,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: twenty seven.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: They eighteen nineteen. Yeah, so now it's not a big deal.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: But back then, I wasn't hanging out with no you know.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: I remember I went to a restaurant with Cree and
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: as we're walking to the restaurant.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: She said, do they card?
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: I said, card, I mean I never I had never
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: been carded because eighteen, you know, I said, how old
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: are you? She said, I just turned eighteen. I said,
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: what the hell am I doing hanging out with?
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? Condemed too.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: I saw them as kids, I like grown ass men
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: when I was young, thirty thirty two, so that you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: it's like eighteen.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: But now that they have embraced me, I appreciate it
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: because they kept me current and kept me interested because they,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Jada and Cree are out the box thinkers.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: They bring creative ideas to the table that I never
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: would have thought of. And I love that. And and
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: of course you know, keeps me laughing Park.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: And I would like that too. He always had ideas.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: I felt so unaccomplished, you know, because he would say
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: something and then do it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I would tell him an idea.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: And not writed and not finish it, or it's still
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: like on my shelf. Mostly I wanted him to know
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: that I felt he was a great actor. And I
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: heard the murmurings of, oh, he's just being himself or whatever.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: They're just writing on his fame as a rapper. I said,
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: everybody that raps ain't acting on there. There were a
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: lot of rappers that had movies that man can act.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: His performances were after change. And I just wanted him
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: to know that and not listen to that. One time
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: in news week, they used to have.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: A little blurb like.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Star of the Week or Celebrity of the week, just
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: a little blurb, and they said and surprisingly handsome rapper.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I said, what the fuck? Is surprised? How insulting he was?
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Find of shit?
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: It was, why is that surprising? He's supposed to be
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: ugly because he's a rapper. I found it racist. Then
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: when I got to when I won one of my
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Image awards, and I go to the press tent, there
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: were two little white girls there and all they did
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: was ask me about what I felt about Tupac getting
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: an Image award. Now, meanwhile, I have my award, it's
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: my sixth one, and I'm not even prepared to you
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: know how they like to bring up dirt when you
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: had a bread carpet, and.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I was thinking, what are y'all doing here?
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: This is our party, you know, and you're crashing our
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: party and asking me to tell some dirt about somebody
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: else here, so I wasn't in the most receiving way.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: They kept asking me if I thought he deserved an
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Image Award, and I said, well, I don't know what
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: the controversy is. Well, you know because of Dolorus, Tuck
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Her and this, that and the other, and I didn't know.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: And I said, well, can you tell me which songs
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: you're referring to? At the time, I had only heard
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Dear Mama, Brenda had a baby and keep your head up.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I honestly didn't know what the controversy was about because
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: these are all uplifting female And she said, well, I
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: don't know which song.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard the CD.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: I said, well, why don't you do your homework and
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: then come to me and ask me.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: I was so mad. And in the back of the
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: house there were two brothers like this. They were from
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Jetton Ebony.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: You know, because I'm like, how dare you come to
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: our party, insult our guests and don't even know what
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: the hell you talking about?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: But I'm supposed to know.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: They were on the radio those three songs and they
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: come in like they well, we just are bad.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: We just aved that may hell Oh my god. I
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: was so glad. So the next day was in the
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: La Times.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: I have my ward up like this and my nostrils
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: and I don't know what they said about my publicists
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: called me and she was like, you know, there are
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: there are white actresses that don't get hired because their
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: breasts are too big.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, first of all, I don't have to
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: run everything by.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: You for me to speak. You know, if you wanted
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: to be by my side, you should have been by there.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: But what was she gonna do interrupt me? You disrespecting us,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: You disrespecting.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Me and they and the faint. He saw that article
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: and heard that I.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: Stood up for him, and she never forgot that. And
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of why she was cool with
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: him staying with.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Me after you got shot.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because she didn't based on what they knew about
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: me and seeing me on the show, she didn't realize that.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: I was like that, you know what I mean?
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: And they are very much soldiers in that. One of
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: her friends said, oh, you a soldier now, and I
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: was like, I'm sorry, are we at war?
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: I didn't know what she meant by were you afraid
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: during that time? Like when you took pokin after he
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: got shot. Did you feel like, what if they come
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: looking for him in the.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there were times because of the the regularity of
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: my going in and out of my apartment, I felt
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: like it would be easy if I had been on
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: the radar for anybody to you know, follow me or
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: come up.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: And so there was that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: And I didn't live in a secured building like a
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: doorman building, and I was scared of but like I
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: had never seen a real bullet wound, just you know
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: on TV like NYPD Blue and when I played a.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Badass in this movie.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: But I was concerned about that, you know, actually caring
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: for the wounds and making sure he was gonna be okay.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: N Yeah, he should have been in the hospital for
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: at least two or.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Three more days on antibiotics.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Everybody has walked out.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: He signed himself out, so you had to help him
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: out and help meet and help him get himself back together.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: He when he left Bellevue, he went to his girlfriends
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: and he realized it was equally accessible. He just felt
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: like a sitting duck in the hospital. But everybody knew
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: who he was at his girlfriends. Nobody knew that we
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: were friends, So him coming to my apartment was more
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: diary of Frank and just put food under the bookcase.
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it was on the down load. I didn't
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: know what kind of publicity might have come from that,
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: but it wasn't anything I was interested in publicizing. So
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: I just shut the family down. I was like anybody
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: those you knew, you know, because I didn't do that
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: for that reason.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: It was a personal reason.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: And that was one of those moments where you know,
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: y'all don't get that, and they they respected it all
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: these years until the documentary they've been wanting to, I guess,
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: thank me, but their love and I'm part of that
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: family now has been enough. I don't need public thanks
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: for what I did on a personal level. So it's
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: interesting the documentary said, Okay, Jasmine, you can talk about
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: that part of it now, because I really thought, well,
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: just you know, I'll go to my grave with certain things.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Not because I'm ashamed, but I don't like the exploitation
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: factor of things that you do in your personal life
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: for your kids or for people you love or whatever.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: You know, it was your.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Story, I mean, he said in the doc Jaya talks
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: about in her book. Yeah, this is all your story.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: She called me and tell me what was in the book.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: This is all I said. I didn't talk about this.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't talk about that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: And I really was calling her more for support because
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: when I wrote a fane's book, I didn't know all
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: the other stuff you have to do for a book fist,
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: the book tours, you know, and I just wanted to
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: make sure she was And there was a kind of
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: loneliness to her story to me, No, jaj, there's a
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: loneliness like the bigger and richer and you get more isolated,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: you know, there's more things you can't do, and you
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: always have to. I don't know, so I just I
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: just didn't want her to feel that loneliness. She could
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: talk to me about whatever, because that was some It
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: was a lot of personal information. Her gauge is way
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: past mind. That's what I mean about the younger ones.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: They showed me that I don't have to be that
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: old school about my press.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: So you you didn't say, you know, when Tupac stayed
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: with you, you saw that like you ain't gonna go in
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: it like that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't tell nobody.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, when my family saw the documentary. My
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: best friend said what I told two people and they
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: both lived in New York, because why tell somebody that
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: can get to me?
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Because I did.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I was worried that anything could happen, you know, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: those two people, two of my friends that lived in
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: New York, that was it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: So all my other friends, I just because two.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Weeks it is on a long period for me not
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: to call you, and I wasn't missed yet, you know,
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: maybe had It's been a month, right, Yeah. So now
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: when that documentary came out, a lot of my friends
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: were like.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: When did this happen? What were you staying? How Come
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: Know hit his girlfriend at the time. I have a
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: problem with that, I mean, because that's part that was
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: my guy. So you know, I have no idea child.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: I wasn't doing I don't care.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Twenty one, you know what I mean. I'm not like
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: your girlfriend. And it was dire, it was I mean,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: he was in trouble.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was still open, like it wasn't healed yet,
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: you know, So I wasn't.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Thinking about that. Yeah, they got back together a thing,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: they got back together.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure you talk about this on since this
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: is my last question, like when's the last time you
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: spoke to him, like before you die, do you remember
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: the last conversation in your head or the last time
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: you saw him.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: I was visiting a Feeny and Stone Mountain when they
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: had a house there and he came through. Now this
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: is after he had been in prison for eleven months.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: I've seen him for a while. Yeah, so I saw
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: him at the house. That was the last time.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: M you remember the conversation or you don't, that's personal.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: It was just like hey, you know, and he was like,
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: I'm strong now because he was. He was, you know, infirmed.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: So he wanted me to see his you know, little
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: prison push up muscles, knuckles were all black from doing
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: it on you know, he wanted I was like, yeah,
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: you look good. And then he went out with his
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: friends and you know, I hung out with a fainting
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: The thing that really hurt my feelings about him getting
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: shot like that when he was with me, I thought
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Helping him go to the next part of his life.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Like g.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: I was like, you're gonna get You're gonna go to
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: prison and then get shot again. And I knew that
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: second shooting wasn't the wounds he had the first time
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: were in his appendages.
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  Speaker 1: Not in his lungs.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so disappointed.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he told me he was gonna it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: gonna make it past twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: I always thought he was just talking shit all the time.
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  Speaker 5: That's legend. Put that in the book. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not writing a book about you. Stop telling me that.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, I'm never telling anybody anything about this experience. Nah,
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  Speaker 5: you need to you know, blunt in the bathtub, Like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: you need to put this in the book. What am
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: I your fucking now, I'm you're a chronicler. Yeah, and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: he kept telling me he was like twenty one, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I really didn't understand that world he knew. I wasn't
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: from it. I thought it was ridiculous for him to
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  Speaker 5: say he wasn't going to live past twenty five. I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: treated him like I treated my little cousins that make
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: these statements about life.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so that hurts.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait people to hear your story.
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  Speaker 1: You live the life this guy. I gotta watch him
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: since this.
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  Speaker 2: Sunday, March twenty fourth. You need to write a Central
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  Speaker 2: TV one.
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  Speaker 1: You gonna make me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take my lashes off because I'm going to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: know ye going with lashes if you.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Take them off and put them on ebit, I got
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I got you.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I don't watch it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: They going make sure they know it's not roaches or
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: a spider because they likes and you just put them on.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: All about my less for Jazmine guy. Ladies, always the.
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  Speaker 1: Pleasure when you come.
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  Speaker 5: Guy.
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  Speaker 1: Love you so much.
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  Speaker 6: You are a cultural We appreciate you so much, we
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: value you.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Just thank you always.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Now thank you. It's Jasmine guy. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.