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The Convergence of the Oligarchs | Gary & Mondo · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the podcast. This week Mono Menzalez here
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Speaker 2: with Gary Steerman, and we have some great topics that
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Speaker 2: we want to update. It's been a very interesting week prophetically.
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Speaker 2: We're going to be talking a little bit about the
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Speaker 2: red Heifers. We're talking about the Abraham Accords and things
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Speaker 2: coming out of South of Araba, which is pretty fascinating.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the potential war with Iran and what's happening there.
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Speaker 2: We also see that the UN is discussing taxation on
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Speaker 2: citizens and trying to raise money. We know the digital currency.
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Speaker 2: We got a topic discuss about Europeans the Union's plan
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Speaker 2: for digital currency, as well as our good friend Elon
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Speaker 2: Musk so to speak, seeking to be having a military
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Speaker 2: connection and so. But before we do, I want to
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Speaker 2: remind everybody that we are quite busy here every week
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Speaker 2: and we have a couple of things that would love
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Speaker 2: information about that upcoming trip. Well, well, the first thing
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Speaker 2: you want to talk about, Gary, here we are is
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Speaker 2: the red heifers, and we've talked a lot about that.
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Speaker 2: Of course I've written a book about it, but we
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Speaker 2: love getting letters.
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Speaker 1: Well, first I should say I've read the book and
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Speaker 1: that's the truth. And by the way, it's very informative,
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Speaker 1: but it's not so complex that it leaves you behind.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. It's a good read. And
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Speaker 1: the subject and Mando and I have talked about this
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Speaker 1: a lot. The subject is very current. Ten to fifteen
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Speaker 1: years ago, red heifer. You know, things were bubbling around
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but today the bubble has come to
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Speaker 1: a boil when it comes to the red heifer. You
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Speaker 1: could even call it a starter, right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we uh, we often say that, you know,
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Speaker 2: Gary and I we get a lot of letters from people.
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Speaker 2: Some we enjoy, some we don't, just to be honest,
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Speaker 2: and uh, we got a letter this week, or Gary did,
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Speaker 2: which we thought was it was interesting and again you know.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was flattering for me. It says it
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Speaker 1: says uh uh doctor Tierman. By the way that you know,
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Speaker 1: thanks for the respect. Would you please, I hate to
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Speaker 1: read this, would you read it? Please teach Mondo the
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Speaker 1: difference between a cow and a heifer. Last week he
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Speaker 1: kept calling the red heifer a cow, not once or twice,
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Speaker 1: but over and over and over. It was disgusting. And uh,
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Speaker 1: it is signed. And I thought that was a very
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Speaker 1: very good discussion starter, and so did you.
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Speaker 2: Well, I thought, man, you know, to have somebody get
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Speaker 2: worked up so much to call my descriptions red heifer,
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Speaker 2: red cow, and to go back and forth disgusting, They're
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Speaker 2: pretty pretty fired up in that letter that you got
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Speaker 2: took the time to, yeah, emotional, even to write and
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Speaker 2: send it.
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Speaker 1: Now, why would you get emotional? And this is your
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Speaker 1: cue to have a good answer, Why would you get
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Speaker 1: emotional about the difference between cow and heifer? There is
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Speaker 1: a distinction, and I think we need to clarify that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think, I hope you know that obviously, sister
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Speaker 2: in Christ. I'm sure her motives are positive, Love's truth.
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Speaker 2: And was frustrated at my using those terms. Now I
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Speaker 2: can tell you why I use those terms, because it's
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Speaker 2: no doubt in modern English and even modern Ranching, Okay,
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Speaker 2: there is a distinction between a heifer and a cow
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Speaker 2: and a bowl and everything else. The reason why I
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Speaker 2: often will switch back and forth is because I'm stuck
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Speaker 2: in the Hebrew. The Hebrew doesn't make a distinction about that.
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Speaker 2: There there there is an egglove, which is a calf,
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Speaker 2: and there is a parah, which is a again a
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Speaker 2: female cow. Well, I can't even say cow because I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna be in trouble again. But in the Bible, it
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Speaker 2: doesn't make that distinction that we have again in our
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Speaker 2: modern language now today, a heifer is a female bovine
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Speaker 2: I'll use that word, a female bovine that has never
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Speaker 2: been impregnated, where a cow is a bovine that a
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Speaker 2: female bovine that has been has has had a calf.
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Speaker 2: And so of course in the Bible, I think the
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Speaker 2: technical meaning not so much the word. The meaning is
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Speaker 2: it's it's one that has never been impregnated. So technically
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Speaker 2: a heifer is the most accurate. But what you see.
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Speaker 2: The reason why I say that is because if you
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Speaker 2: talk to the rabbis today and in the language, in
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Speaker 2: any sort of English translation, which again you see this
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Speaker 2: in the mission on the Talmut, which is why my
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Speaker 2: brain is this way, they say five cows, they'll say
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Speaker 2: red cows. Red cow's red cows. They're not necessarily they
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Speaker 2: don't they're not speaking in modern English taxonomy by ranchers.
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Speaker 1: But there is a distinction.
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Speaker 2: There is a distinction, yeh.
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Speaker 1: And I think what we're talking about here is a
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Speaker 1: young cow. It has not given milk, has not given birth,
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Speaker 1: and it's commonly spoken of as a heifer. And the
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Speaker 1: next question is why red. And my take on this
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Speaker 1: has always been that the red heifer is very, very
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Speaker 1: easy to inspect in terms of hair color and configuration,
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Speaker 1: so you can you can check out this red heifer,
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Speaker 1: and once you do that, you've set the standard. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's why it's a red heifer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's fascinating to me that again,
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Speaker 2: you know, but appreciate the letter. I'll try to do
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Speaker 2: better using the word heifer. I got to get out
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Speaker 2: of the rabbinic language. But you know, on this note,
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Speaker 2: it does provide an opportunity to discuss briefly the update
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Speaker 2: on the red heifers in that we know going back
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Speaker 2: to September of twenty twenty two, five red heifers were
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Speaker 2: brought over to the Land of Israel. And of that
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Speaker 2: when if you talk to Byron Stinson, who was the
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Speaker 2: main American contact, he has a house in Bethlehem. He
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Speaker 2: also has he lives in Texas, so he was the
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Speaker 2: one primarily responsible with the organization Bonet Israel to bring
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Speaker 2: these cows over. And I just last month I had
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to spend a day with him at a
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Speaker 2: biblical museum, and as we talked, he said, he said,
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Speaker 2: he's he's very clear that there's still two red heifers
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Speaker 2: that are preliminarily qualified. Now again you can't have full
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Speaker 2: of qualification until really the moment before you have the ceremony.
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Speaker 2: But he says, now, based on everything he sees, these
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Speaker 2: the cows are up in Shiloh, Uh we're at a
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Speaker 2: visitor center there, and so he's been pretty strong that
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Speaker 2: they're still too qualified. Well, subsequent to that, just about
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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, three weeks ago, Rabbi Ral, who was
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Speaker 2: with the Temple Institute, he was interviewed in a Hebrew
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Speaker 2: only conversation where he said, we're not sure, we're certainly
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Speaker 2: I mean, the quote was, we are presently unsure whether
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Speaker 2: we have any qualified red heifer's, which again was kind
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Speaker 2: of contradictory to what many others have been saying. So
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Speaker 2: all that to say, Byron did respond and he's, you know,
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Speaker 2: he and he respects the rabbis and and of course
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Speaker 2: he wants to be deferential to them. But so to me,
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Speaker 2: I think what Rabbi Ril said is very safe. It
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Speaker 2: keeps It keeps kind of a deflection away from the
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Speaker 2: conversation because of what we've seen in the past with Hamas.
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Speaker 2: But I think all this is going to change.
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Speaker 1: Now. Why would there be such a political upheaval over
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Speaker 1: a red heifer and a red heifer ceremony and so forth. Well,
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Speaker 1: you go back to Moses taking instructions from God about
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Speaker 1: the red heifer, and it's obvious that God wanted the
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Speaker 1: twelve tribes to be able to purify themselves on their
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Speaker 1: desert march, and he specified the red heifer as the
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Speaker 1: source of the purification method. And he stopped and think
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Speaker 1: about it. They were known in the days of Moses.
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Speaker 1: The Jews were known as I guess a warrior class
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Speaker 1: of people. Don't mess around with the Jews. You will
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Speaker 1: not win the war. And when they escaped Egypt and
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Speaker 1: then began that forty year March, they sort of developed
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Speaker 1: a reputation for being the twelve tribes you do not
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Speaker 1: mess around with, because they were under the blessing of God.
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Speaker 1: Fast forward to the present and we have Israel back
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Speaker 1: in the land, and guess what, we're at war again.
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Speaker 1: The tribes have come back and said we're going to
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Speaker 1: wipe you out once and for all. But I'm sure
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Speaker 1: they know about the sacrifice of the red Heifer, and
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Speaker 1: they know about God's promise to Moses, and that purification
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Speaker 1: would ensure the Twelve tribes a close relationship with God,
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Speaker 1: the strength and the power and the faith to win
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Speaker 1: a war against the adversary. And the Arabs knowing that
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Speaker 1: said fellas, we cannot allow them to sacrifice the red heifer.
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Speaker 1: What if God is really real and what if He
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Speaker 1: blesses them, We're in deep trouble, and so what shall
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Speaker 1: we do. Well, We'll try to destroy their ability to
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Speaker 1: have the ashes that are read to he for And
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Speaker 1: that's sort of my take on it. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: in your book you validate that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I talk about the changing nature not only of
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Speaker 2: the religious groups, but as well as the government of
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Speaker 2: is Or. We know that right now, really from December
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Speaker 2: of twenty two, that this is the most religious government
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Speaker 2: in the history of Israel, and so things are changing there.
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Speaker 2: We also see I was in Israel in the middle
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Speaker 2: of twenty three and there was a lot of riots,
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Speaker 2: there was a lot of disunity, and then a big
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Speaker 2: mistake happened in that sense from a and Islamic perspective
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Speaker 2: or a Hamas perspective, and you had Israel destroying itself. Well,
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Speaker 2: then the attack of October seventh happened and you had
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Speaker 2: instant unity, which again is not what Hamas really wanted
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Speaker 2: or intended. And so you see that shift. And now
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Speaker 2: Hamas is at the point and with especially with the
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Speaker 2: Trump administration's backing, Hamas has no future. It is going
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Speaker 2: to be removed by force because they won't lay down
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Speaker 2: their arms. And so you see all this changing. But
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Speaker 2: when they came out in January of twenty four describing
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Speaker 2: that one of the reasons they attacked in October of
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Speaker 2: twenty three was because of the again using their words
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Speaker 2: five red cows.
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Speaker 1: Sorry you are forgiven, Yeah, I'm quoting them.
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Speaker 2: So but nevertheless, because of these five red heifers they attacked.
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Speaker 2: And so again propaganda. They don't need a reason to
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Speaker 2: kill Jews, that's just what they use that they're good
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Speaker 2: at that. But it brings us up, Gary again to
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Speaker 2: kind of another topic, which this came out just in
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Speaker 2: the last couple of days, because the question is is
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Speaker 2: will Israel. We know the Bible says Israel is going
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Speaker 2: to build a temple when that happens. We don't know
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Speaker 2: the details, but again the Red Heifer ceremony is kind
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Speaker 2: of kind of a precursor to that. But what we're
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Speaker 2: seeing is a shift as well in the in the
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Speaker 2: opinion of Islam. And what I mean by Islam is
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Speaker 2: primarily Sunni Islam. For people in my not know. If
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Speaker 2: you look at Mecca and Medina and Saudi Arabia, that's
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Speaker 2: really the foundation of Islam altogether. But it is the
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Speaker 2: foundation as well, the headquarters of Sunni Islam. When you
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Speaker 2: go to the other group, the Shi'ah or the Shiites,
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Speaker 2: they are primarily Iraq, Iran, Hesba Llah someplace some in
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Speaker 2: Syria as well as Hamas. But the question is, well,
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Speaker 2: what does Saudi Arabia think about the Jews. Well, we've
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Speaker 2: seen that shift lately, and we could go back to
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Speaker 2: the Abrahamic Accords, going back to September of twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: where based on the first Trump administration, the United Arab
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Speaker 2: Emirates Bahrain and then later in October Sudan agreed to
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Speaker 2: normalize relations with Israel. Even in December of that year,
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Speaker 2: he had Israel and Morocco begin normalizing things. And so
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Speaker 2: the question was we'll sow Saudi Arabia be next in
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Speaker 2: joining the Abrahamic Accords. Well, I want to read a
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Speaker 2: quote and get your thoughts on this, Gary, because just
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Speaker 2: in the last couple of days, we know that the
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Speaker 2: Prince Mohammed ben Salomon Uh, he's often called MBS for short.
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Speaker 2: He's he's a he's a younger guy, probably forty.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: He's very into modernization. But he and so he's the
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Speaker 2: next king. Okay, he's prince, he's gonna be king. But
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Speaker 2: out of the out of sud Arabia, we read this.
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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia has banned all public displays of support for Palestine. Quote.
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Speaker 2: This is what he says. The Palestinian cause is not
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Speaker 2: my cause. I only care about my country and the
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Speaker 2: people of my country. We will not waste time with radicalism.
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Speaker 2: We will modernize rapidly. And of course we know that
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Speaker 2: they're building, uh, this huge city in the desert out there,
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Speaker 2: imaginably five hundred billion, one hundred and seventy five kilometers.
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Speaker 2: It's it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be the glory of the whole earth.
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Speaker 1: It is, if you will, the Arab dream.
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Speaker 2: It's the Arab dream. And so I mean, let's get
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Speaker 2: your thoughts Gary on this. I mean the fact that
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Speaker 2: MBS here is saying we don't care about the Palestine
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Speaker 2: cause anymore, We're not going to support radicalism. That's a
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Speaker 2: big shift. I mean, you've been watching this for a while.
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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that?
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Speaker 1: Well, my thoughts are that Saudi Arabia has long allied
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Speaker 1: itself with the Europe and with the West, and in
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Speaker 1: terms of technology, oil backed by oil, because they are
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Speaker 1: a major oil source, has taken them in an entirely
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Speaker 1: different direction as Sunni Muslims. They think of themselves as
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Speaker 1: more rational people, more calm, cool and collected than the
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Speaker 1: site Muslims, which I think.
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Speaker 2: Is true, especially now.
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Speaker 1: Especially now, and so they I think would be willing
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Speaker 1: to strike a bargain with the West, and I think
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Speaker 1: we see the maneuvering for that right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. This is Remember that this is so huge because
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Speaker 2: even as recently as six months ago or whatever, we
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Speaker 2: know that roughly around the summer of twenty three, okay,
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Speaker 2: so a little less than two years ago, there was
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Speaker 2: a lot of momentum that Israel was going to be
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Speaker 2: normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia, and again possibly joining the
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Speaker 2: Abrahamic Accords, and that was well known, and so Hamas
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Speaker 2: used that as one of their pretexts to attack Israel
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Speaker 2: in order because they knew they knew Israel had to respond,
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Speaker 2: which always when Israel responds the Palestinians or Hamas in
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Speaker 2: this case, we'll get sympathy from the Arab world. Well,
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Speaker 2: I think they overplayed their hand because they didn't realize
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Speaker 2: that Israel respond in the exact way. And then once
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Speaker 2: all the publicity came out about the barbarity of the Hamas,
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Speaker 2: you know, murdering babies and putting them in the ovens
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Speaker 2: and women and everything else, that backfired on them because
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Speaker 2: this is why he made the comment that they will
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Speaker 2: not support radicalism or waste time with it. Because so
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Speaker 2: they overplayed their hand. And now since then there was
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Speaker 2: a little bit of time about with about twelve months,
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Speaker 2: of course, what Hamas said was true, and Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 2: came out. They were talking about the Israel's war with
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Speaker 2: Hamas and they were speaking out against Israel. Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 2: that's over now is over. So the fact that he
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Speaker 2: just made this comment the last few days, it brings
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Speaker 2: up the other thing too, is Saudi Arabia has offered
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Speaker 2: to take over administration of the Temple Mount from Jordan,
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Speaker 2: the walk for the Waq which was given to them
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty seven. So if Saudi Arabia comes in
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Speaker 2: and is able to normalize with Israel, they don't care
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Speaker 2: about the policy and cause based on that quote, and
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Speaker 2: they come to put potentially control the Temple Mount, why
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Speaker 2: are they going to care if a temple is built there,
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Speaker 2: a Jewish temple. These are the things that are again
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Speaker 2: when we talk about prophetic convergences, it's pretty amazing.
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Speaker 1: Plus the fact that we have had a war in
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Speaker 1: the last year and a half that I think is
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Speaker 1: described in several of the minor prophets. I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: zeph and Ayah and zeph and Iya, and the theme
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Speaker 1: is the day of the Lord is at hand. In
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Speaker 1: other words, latter days there will come a time when
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Speaker 1: the nations will try to wipe out Israel once and
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Speaker 1: for all, and God says no, no. At that time,
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Speaker 1: my great and terrible day will arrive and Israel will survive.
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Speaker 1: And so I think we're living somewhere in that time
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Speaker 1: zone right now. I really do. And I could read
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Speaker 1: the whole book of zeph Andi. You can read it
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Speaker 1: for yourself. But zeph and Iya talks about those that
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Speaker 1: leap upon the threshold and they fill their master's houses
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Speaker 1: with violence and deceit. And zeph and I goes on
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Speaker 1: to describe a war and the the the promotion of
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Speaker 1: that war comes from Gaza, says Cephni. And saw I
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Speaker 1: looked at this and I thought, well, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: not one to read, you know, literally what's going on
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Speaker 1: in the world today. In the Bible, on the other hand,
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Speaker 1: we have described here a latter day war in which
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Speaker 1: Israel is invaded. Israel's back in the land. All started
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Speaker 1: back in eighteen ninety seven, and you know, we have
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Speaker 1: the long, long story, and Israel is back in the land.
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Speaker 1: And I believe that Israel well is not only making
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Speaker 1: some very very powerful agreements with the West, but I
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Speaker 1: think Israel has a shall we say, a highly developed
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Speaker 1: weapons system that nobody knows about. But from now, from
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Speaker 1: from every once in a while, you hear something about
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Speaker 1: Israel having very powerful military equipment, shall we say. And
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Speaker 1: so to me, this is where we are right now.
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Speaker 1: And as a prophecy watcher, you know, and Jesus said,
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Speaker 1: watch therefore, for you don't know when the day is coming.
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Speaker 1: But and we are watching, and if you are a
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Speaker 1: serious watcher, everything is coming together as we have imagined
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Speaker 1: that it might. Israel is not only back, but is
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Speaker 1: being attacked in certain ways described in scripture. And I
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Speaker 1: think that your comments about Saudi Arabia just really put
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Speaker 1: the whole thing together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be it'll be fascinating to watch because I mean,
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Speaker 2: as we are watching, we look over and you mentioned
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Speaker 2: Israel's military capability and their weapons. Because the question is
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Speaker 2: is war with Iran coming? So we know that just
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Speaker 2: recently Trump had which is really rare, he had requested
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Speaker 2: that nt Yahu come to the White House. He already
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Speaker 2: he's already been there just in the last couple of
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Speaker 2: months and as early as next week. So that's to
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Speaker 2: be summoned, so to speak, if you want to say
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Speaker 2: it that way. To be summoned to the White House,
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Speaker 2: I think shows us the the urgency of the situation
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Speaker 2: with Iran and that Trump is not messing around. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if we look around right now, the you have two
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Speaker 2: aircraft carrier groups in the Middle East, in the Mediterranean,
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Speaker 2: you have a presence of the Mediterranean. In the Red
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Speaker 2: Sea you have the aircraft carrier Truman there with a
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Speaker 2: whole bunch of support vessels, even a submarine. In the
22:16
Speaker 2: Persian Golf you have a you have US Coast Guard
22:21
Speaker 2: Sentinel Class cutters. In the Indian Ocean, you have that
22:24
Speaker 2: another Carrier Strike Group number one again carrier cruiser destroyers.
22:30
Speaker 2: And then we know that there are at least they
22:34
Speaker 2: didn't say this publicly at first, but the Pentagon just
22:38
Speaker 2: came out publicly the last couple of days admitting and confessing.
22:42
Speaker 2: We're not confessing, just acknowledging is a better word, that
22:44
Speaker 2: there were at least six B two stealth bombers in Diego, Garcia,
22:48
Speaker 2: you know, and this is an island in the Indian Ocean. Now,
22:51
Speaker 2: satellite pictures had shown them on the runway kind of
22:54
Speaker 2: just showing off, like, look they're here. They left Missouri,
22:58
Speaker 2: the state of Missouri. They're on their way. And so
23:01
Speaker 2: Trump has said there's a deadline here for Iran in
23:05
Speaker 2: their talks, and he's he is not going to allow
23:10
Speaker 2: the talks like the Biden administration or even in the
23:12
Speaker 2: Obama administration, going back to twenty fifteen with a jcp AWA,
23:17
Speaker 2: the joint comprehensive plan of action back then with Iran.
23:21
Speaker 2: Iran is a master at stalling, yes, and so Trump said,
23:27
Speaker 2: we're not doing that. Here's a deadline, and we're not
23:30
Speaker 2: going to stall, and we're going to talk directly. There's
23:32
Speaker 2: no indirect talks which will last for six eight months.
23:35
Speaker 2: And so with all of the build up, Trump and
23:40
Speaker 2: if anybody looks at Trump, they have to believe that
23:43
Speaker 2: he means what he says. And so Iran is being
23:47
Speaker 2: forced to the table. And Trump has been so clear
23:51
Speaker 2: they can do this the easy way or they'll get bombs.
23:55
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a quote.
23:56
Speaker 1: Well, and when you mentioned the stealth bombers to spirit
24:01
Speaker 1: this stealth bomber, it is capable of arriving unannounced, shall
24:08
Speaker 1: we put yes, I mean it out of nowhere, suddenly
24:13
Speaker 1: there's a stealth bomber with super bombs carrying. And I
24:17
Speaker 1: would I'm not saying I want those bombs to be dropped,
24:20
Speaker 1: because I certainly don't. The kind of bombs carried by
24:24
Speaker 1: the Bee two are once and for all bunker busters,
24:28
Speaker 1: for sure, Yah, at least bunker busters and maybe ar
24:34
Speaker 1: nuclear that could wipe out a whole country like Iran.
24:39
Speaker 1: But it's fascinating to me the Hooties. We read about
24:43
Speaker 1: the Hooties attacking our naval fleet. What do you think
24:49
Speaker 1: about That's what's going on.
24:51
Speaker 2: So again this that's good because the Hooties down in
24:55
Speaker 2: Yemen are one of Iran's proxies, and so it's interesting
24:59
Speaker 2: they've been doing this. And then, as we know, in
25:02
Speaker 2: the last year, who would have thought, I mean, eighteen
25:06
Speaker 2: months ago, we would have not thought about the Middle
25:08
Speaker 2: East changing as much as it did since October seventh
25:13
Speaker 2: of twenty three. But what do we have we have
25:16
Speaker 2: back then the Hooties were attacking. They even threw some
25:19
Speaker 2: missiles over at Saudi Arabia. They're attacking Israel. Syria has
25:23
Speaker 2: been turned upside down, Hesbelah has been decimated, Lebanon is
25:28
Speaker 2: being forced to dismantle hesbe law, and so with the Uties,
25:33
Speaker 2: though Iran just publicly admitted in the last week that
25:39
Speaker 2: they are removing their support from the Uties because the
25:45
Speaker 2: Americans rightfully so, are defending the travel of shipping, the
25:50
Speaker 2: shipping lanes there, and they have been bombing the Hooties
25:54
Speaker 2: every single day, many sorties, and so they're and really
25:58
Speaker 2: they have the Hooties have no real reason to do
26:01
Speaker 2: what they do, except again by Iran's instruction. So now
26:04
Speaker 2: that Iran is being forced, the sanctions are crippling the
26:09
Speaker 2: Iranian regime. Right now, their currency is is plummeting in
26:21
Speaker 2: its value. So when you look at all of this,
26:24
Speaker 2: Iran's stranglehold on the Middle East has completely been obliterated.
26:28
Speaker 1: By the way the oil game being played on a
26:31
Speaker 1: global level has now changed with a new president. The
26:36
Speaker 1: United States has the oil and the natural gas like
26:41
Speaker 1: nobody else on planet Earth. Even though the Saudis have
26:45
Speaker 1: an amazing amount of oil, they don't have anything compared
26:48
Speaker 1: with US. And our current president has promised to start
26:53
Speaker 1: producing oil and he's going to control the flow and
26:57
Speaker 1: the price of oil. And in my opinion, that's saying
27:01
Speaker 1: right at the Middle East as a bargaining chip.
27:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that that they've always been able to use
27:06
Speaker 2: oil as a leverage, including Saudi Arabia others in opek
27:09
Speaker 2: if you wanted to say it that way. But you know,
27:11
Speaker 2: the these talks between directly between the United States and
27:15
Speaker 2: Iran are happening right now. I mean, April twelfth is
27:19
Speaker 2: direct talks because Iran is trying to say, well, we're
27:22
Speaker 2: not going to talk directly, and Trump says, oh, no,
27:24
Speaker 2: you will, because if you don't, you're going to get bombs.
27:27
Speaker 2: And so when we look at this, we're going to
27:29
Speaker 2: see what happens as it relates to these direct things.
27:33
Speaker 2: But I it's going to be it would be really
27:35
Speaker 2: unlikely for Iran to capitulate. They have too much mistake
27:41
Speaker 2: in their reputation because remember, Iran wants to be let
27:45
Speaker 2: me say it this way. In there you have two
27:47
Speaker 2: real bat three battles, Turkey and Ertawan, who are soonies.
27:51
Speaker 2: They want to be the new coliphate of the Middle East.
27:55
Speaker 2: They want to lead it. They want to be the
27:57
Speaker 2: leaders of Islam. Well, the Sheiites of Iran want to
28:00
Speaker 2: be the leaders. Well, then you, of course you have
28:02
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia who are soonies as well. So Saudi Arabia
28:06
Speaker 2: and Turkey they kind of have this competition Who's going
28:09
Speaker 2: to be the leader of Islam. Well, then they have
28:11
Speaker 2: it against each other. But then they all three of
28:13
Speaker 2: them have it against each other because you have the
28:16
Speaker 2: Sheeites of Iran trying to do this, But it would
28:20
Speaker 2: be unlikely that they would cave. And so most likely
28:23
Speaker 2: it's going to go to some level of attack, and
28:27
Speaker 2: I would say, to do it right, I'm not advocating,
28:29
Speaker 2: but what we see the comments to do it right,
28:32
Speaker 2: it has to be done really with at least special
28:36
Speaker 2: force troops on the ground in Iran.
28:39
Speaker 1: Now I want your opinion on this. Having said what
28:41
Speaker 1: you just said, I'm going to throw in another idea,
28:45
Speaker 1: and that is Ezekiel thirty eight Versus one through four,
28:49
Speaker 1: that incredible introduction to chapter thirty eight that talks about
28:54
Speaker 1: this guy named Cog and everybody forever and ever. Yeah,
29:00
Speaker 1: I mean as long as I can remember, when they
29:02
Speaker 1: talk about Ezekiel's war, they think of it in terms
29:08
Speaker 1: of happening at or about the time of the rapture
29:12
Speaker 1: of the Church, and there they also say, that's got
29:16
Speaker 1: to be Russia. It's got to be Russia coming south
29:19
Speaker 1: and perhaps in league with Turkey and other nations in
29:22
Speaker 1: the Middle East against Israel. And everybody has always said, well,
29:26
Speaker 1: what would draw Russia down to the Middle East? So
29:31
Speaker 1: I want your opinion on that. As you've studied scripture,
29:35
Speaker 1: how does that fit with what's going on now?
29:37
Speaker 2: I think that one of the typical answers that people
29:40
Speaker 2: will give. I try to be fair to all the sides.
29:43
Speaker 2: One of the typical answers is in easy thirty. If
29:46
Speaker 2: you have the protest by Shiva and d Dan saying
29:49
Speaker 2: have you come to take spoil?
29:50
Speaker 1: Now Shiva and d Dan would be would.
29:52
Speaker 2: Be Saudi Arabia most likely, you know all of Saudi
29:55
Speaker 2: Arabia and.
29:55
Speaker 1: So, and that's why I'm asking, yeah.
29:58
Speaker 2: And what I would say is, we can't. We can't
30:00
Speaker 2: make that as a one hundred percent certain because just
30:03
Speaker 2: because you have a quote by the protesters have you
30:07
Speaker 2: come to take spoil? I mean, that's a good indication
30:09
Speaker 2: of at least what they think is that Russia and
30:13
Speaker 2: the other coalition have come down to again to take
30:16
Speaker 2: the resource of Israel. But we also know that one
30:19
Speaker 2: of the main reason that's spoken of in the text
30:21
Speaker 2: is that God himself puts a hook in the jaw
30:25
Speaker 2: and turns it, turns, turns Gog around to come down.
30:29
Speaker 2: And so you have God's supernatural guidance there, if you
30:32
Speaker 2: want to say it, or the hardening of the heart
30:34
Speaker 2: like Pharaoh to accomplish his goal, because God's goal. Just
30:37
Speaker 2: like with Pharaoh, I have hardened Pharaoh's heart because I'm
30:39
Speaker 2: going to be glorified in the world's eyes. And in
30:43
Speaker 2: the same way you see that language in thirty eight
30:45
Speaker 2: and thirty nine that God is going to hook God down,
30:49
Speaker 2: and he says, then the whole world will know, and
30:51
Speaker 2: my glory will be made known. So whatever God's reasons are,
30:55
Speaker 2: he is going to be glorified in it. But what
30:57
Speaker 2: you see is is going to be humbled here. And
31:02
Speaker 2: so the fact that they would have an opportunity to
31:05
Speaker 2: join with Turkey and Russia in a revenge plot against
31:11
Speaker 2: Israel in an Easyco thirty eight, it fits very nicely
31:14
Speaker 2: with what we're seeing. We also know again our good
31:16
Speaker 2: friend Bill Solace has written a lot about Jeremi forty
31:19
Speaker 2: nine and where you have Elam, which is again on
31:22
Speaker 2: the southwestern part near the water of Iran getting attacked,
31:28
Speaker 2: And so do we have a Jeremi forty nine prophecy fulfillment?
31:32
Speaker 2: And I think Bill would say that he believes that
31:35
Speaker 2: Jeremi forty nine is fulfilled prior to Exco thirty dy.
31:39
Speaker 2: But it sets it up. So all we're seeing right
31:41
Speaker 2: now is we're getting ready to see the potential humiliation
31:45
Speaker 2: of Iran with Trump and Israel at the lead, and
31:50
Speaker 2: that creates that again for somebody as proud as well,
31:54
Speaker 2: not that Trump doesn't have his own pride for sure,
31:57
Speaker 2: but for people as proud as the Iranians and you
32:02
Speaker 2: had Islam on there, this this is going to be
32:06
Speaker 2: this is going to be very difficult for them to
32:08
Speaker 2: be humbled in this way again and to be humbled internationally.
32:12
Speaker 2: So that being the case, they would be very eager
32:15
Speaker 2: to join with any sort of again retaliatory action against
32:20
Speaker 2: Israel in the future.
32:21
Speaker 1: Now having discussed these things, and by the way, this
32:25
Speaker 1: is very exciting, and made more exciting by the fact
32:29
Speaker 1: that our current president is a very dramatic man. He
32:34
Speaker 1: loves to stay up all night and then at eight
32:37
Speaker 1: o'clock the next morning he'll say, here's what I'm going
32:40
Speaker 1: to do, and the whole world, you know, says what.
32:44
Speaker 2: The world is reeling because of Trump.
32:47
Speaker 1: Absolutely like it or not, like it or not. And
32:50
Speaker 1: it's exciting, but it also sort of makes you wonder.
32:54
Speaker 2: Well, it interrupts the status quo, which it does. That's
32:58
Speaker 2: what makes me excited about it, Gary, is that this
33:01
Speaker 2: idea of things just continuing. Now. What has happened here
33:04
Speaker 2: is the whole international order has been turned upside down.
33:08
Speaker 2: For good or ill, we'll find out. But nevertheless it is.
33:11
Speaker 1: There are somewhere in the teens a number of books
33:15
Speaker 1: right now on the pre Tribulation, raptor the Church. I
33:19
Speaker 1: counted thirteen. There may be more that have a title
33:24
Speaker 1: that is something like Jesus is Coming Soon, or look
33:29
Speaker 1: up for the Rapture, or whatever the title that happens
33:31
Speaker 1: to be. And by the way, these are not books
33:36
Speaker 1: that have been quickly written. There's a lot of thought
33:38
Speaker 1: going into them, and some of our best Bible scholars
33:43
Speaker 1: have written the book and sometimes it'll be one hundred
33:47
Speaker 1: and twenty pages. Sure, you know Jesus is coming soon. Okay,
33:50
Speaker 1: how do we fit this fact that the thought, the
33:55
Speaker 1: Christian thought that we're very very close into what we've
33:58
Speaker 1: just been talking about.
34:00
Speaker 2: Well, I think this is why, you know, again we
34:02
Speaker 2: haven't if we have a few more topics here to discuss,
34:04
Speaker 2: because what we're seeing is you and I were talking,
34:07
Speaker 2: We talked about this quite often, is that there's a
34:10
Speaker 2: convergence of all of these things coming together, which is
34:14
Speaker 2: causing people, even unbelievers or even believers, are brothers and
34:18
Speaker 2: sisters in Christ who have maybe a different eschatology than
34:22
Speaker 2: we do. Uh, maybe they're partial predatist or you know,
34:24
Speaker 2: all millennial whatever, they're still looking around and going huh.
34:29
Speaker 2: Those dispensationalists are getting awfully lucky in their in their
34:34
Speaker 2: interpretations because a lot of what has been said from
34:37
Speaker 2: a futurist perspective is coming to be And uh, and
34:41
Speaker 2: I want to bring up this one article, Gary, because
34:43
Speaker 2: really you're you're the you're the man on this one
34:45
Speaker 2: in that back in November of twenty twenty, you wrote
34:48
Speaker 2: an article on the ten Kings and the Oligarchs and
34:50
Speaker 2: could they be Oligarchs? And then of course you and
34:53
Speaker 2: I have done some work on that together since then.
34:55
Speaker 2: But the title of this report is and I'll get
34:58
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this because we can't go all the
35:00
Speaker 2: way with to ten Kings idea. But it says the
35:03
Speaker 2: Pentagon considers tasking Musks SpaceX with military missile tracking satellite program,
35:12
Speaker 2: And then it says, let me just read a couple
35:14
Speaker 2: quotes and get your thoughts. It says his SpaceX company
35:17
Speaker 2: is reported to be about to considerably expand its share
35:20
Speaker 2: military business, as the Pentagon considers overhauling a program to
35:24
Speaker 2: deploy hundreds of missile tracking satellites into low orbit. The
35:27
Speaker 2: Washington Post quote competitors have fallen so far behind SpaceX
35:32
Speaker 2: that many fear they won't be able to catch up,
35:34
Speaker 2: leaving NASA and the Pentagon with a few other options
35:36
Speaker 2: as it faces increased competition in space from China and
35:40
Speaker 2: other nation. Musk's Hard Charging company rakes in billions of
35:44
Speaker 2: dollars from the US government, flying everything from cargo to
35:46
Speaker 2: astronauts to some of the Defense Department's most sensitive satellites.
35:50
Speaker 2: The company also operates more than seven thousand Starlink Internet
35:54
Speaker 2: satellites and orbit more than any other entity. The space
35:57
Speaker 2: X Falcon nine is the most reliable rocket in space
36:01
Speaker 2: exploration history. And then it goes down and it says
36:06
Speaker 2: large satellites which are currently Dependagon has are vulnerable to attacks.
36:10
Speaker 2: So the Pentagon is opting for swarms of smaller satellites,
36:13
Speaker 2: hard to target and providing redundancy where they are. The
36:17
Speaker 2: missile warning system is expected to have between three hundred
36:20
Speaker 2: to five hundred satellites in low Earth orbit. SpaceX won
36:25
Speaker 2: the majority of the Lane two contracts that run through
36:27
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, but the Pentagon is expected to increasingly
36:30
Speaker 2: go with SpaceX since the Falcon nine is very reliable. So, Gary,
36:37
Speaker 2: how does this play in does this plane at all
36:39
Speaker 2: to prophetic developments?
36:40
Speaker 1: Well, you know, when you read the Old Testament the
36:42
Speaker 1: profits looking forward to the New Testament, Daniel, for example,
36:46
Speaker 1: it talks about a certain quality of leadership that will
36:51
Speaker 1: arise in the latter days. And of course the idea
36:56
Speaker 1: of men just like Elon Musk, just like Elon Musk,
37:03
Speaker 1: very wealthy, very influential, very bright people who are type A,
37:10
Speaker 1: and there are several of them all face of the
37:12
Speaker 1: planet today, who would love to put their collective knowledge
37:17
Speaker 1: together and under the rubric of if we get together
37:22
Speaker 1: and calm the world down and control the EBB and
37:26
Speaker 1: flow of weaponry and of global economics, we can have
37:31
Speaker 1: world peace.
37:33
Speaker 2: That's the idea. And what do we know. We know
37:37
Speaker 2: that just prior to the arrival of the day of
37:42
Speaker 2: the Lord, they'll be saying peace and safety. And when
37:45
Speaker 2: sudden destruction comes back. You've quoted the Rite script Versussonians five.
37:50
Speaker 2: And if you sudden destruction will come upon them, not us.
37:52
Speaker 2: And so what I find interesting here, Gary, and we
37:55
Speaker 2: don't have spent a long time on this, is just
37:57
Speaker 2: that in talking about the Ten Kings of Revelation seventeen
38:02
Speaker 2: and Daniel chapter seven. I think that I do believe,
38:08
Speaker 2: and I'm not necessarily right, but I do believe these
38:11
Speaker 2: ten Kings are not kings in the traditional sense, but
38:13
Speaker 2: they are influencers. They're figures. Then we know. Revelations seventeen
38:17
Speaker 2: thirteen says there's going to come a time when it
38:20
Speaker 2: says clearly that these ten figures, these ten influencers with
38:24
Speaker 2: how do you influence money, wealth, technology? It says they
38:27
Speaker 2: will hand over, they will give over to the Antichrist
38:31
Speaker 2: their capabilities and their power. And so what you're seeing
38:36
Speaker 2: here with this with Musk now getting involved potentially or
38:41
Speaker 2: being involved in the Pentagon from a military perspective, So
38:44
Speaker 2: when you come on that day and he yeah, I'm
38:46
Speaker 2: not saying he's going to own these, but he's going
38:49
Speaker 2: to have the technology to deliver it and everything else.
38:51
Speaker 2: And on that day with his by then it could
38:53
Speaker 2: be twenty thousand Starling satellites, and he comes to the Antichrist,
38:56
Speaker 2: and the Antichrist says, hey, look, and I believe this
38:59
Speaker 2: will happen in the midpoint of the tribulation, Hey, I
39:02
Speaker 2: need to have the ability to track and to surveil,
39:06
Speaker 2: and somebody like Musk, we'll say I can handle that.
39:11
Speaker 2: I can hand over to you all of my technological
39:14
Speaker 2: abilities for you to surveil and to keep track of
39:16
Speaker 2: everything in the implementation of the Mark of the Beast,
39:20
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. So when we see these things,
39:23
Speaker 2: with this expanding of these technocrats into these other fields,
39:28
Speaker 2: it just fits very nicely in what we expect.
39:31
Speaker 1: Now. I just have to point out that the way
39:34
Speaker 1: you laid out a scenario here makes the rapture of
39:39
Speaker 1: the church.
39:40
Speaker 2: Pretty close even sooner, doesn't it.
39:42
Speaker 1: It does, yep, because the raptor of the Church has
39:44
Speaker 1: to happen before all of Ezekiel and Daniel's prophecies really
39:49
Speaker 1: roll into full scale. And so you're really inadvertently saying,
39:56
Speaker 1: look up, your redemption draws near.
40:00
Speaker 2: The prophecy watchers, Gary, I mean, we always do, right.
40:03
Speaker 1: And I'm very excited about this, and I'm very cautious
40:07
Speaker 1: and have been for years about what I say about
40:10
Speaker 1: Bible prophecy, and I think you have to be careful.
40:13
Speaker 1: You can't jump in and say I've got the date
40:15
Speaker 1: to the raptor.
40:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't ever say that.
40:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, But on the other hand, when things begin to
40:20
Speaker 1: shape together in a biblical, a biblically ordained way that's recognizable,
40:29
Speaker 1: the Oligarchs, the ten Kings, a very very clear delineation
40:36
Speaker 1: of what's going to happen in the rapture, after the rapture,
40:39
Speaker 1: i should say, and going into the tribulation. So to me,
40:43
Speaker 1: this is very exciting, just tremendously.
40:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exciting because we're you know, as we always say,
40:49
Speaker 2: we're not excited about the day of the Lord and
40:50
Speaker 2: the day of tribulation or judgment where half the world's
40:53
Speaker 2: going to be dead. We're excited for what happens after that,
40:56
Speaker 2: and that's the Lord Jesus's second coming where he fixes
40:59
Speaker 2: the world. But this brings us into another again article
41:03
Speaker 2: that came out recently, because what we know is Revelation
41:06
Speaker 2: thirteen sixteen through eighteen that the Antichrist at that midpoint
41:10
Speaker 2: develops or implements the mark of the Beast, which again
41:13
Speaker 2: has an economic component about buying and selling. And so
41:17
Speaker 2: the title this article is Trump's stable coin embrace. This
41:22
Speaker 2: is talking about crypto. Trump's stable coin embrace pushes the
41:26
Speaker 2: European Union to accelerate its digital euro plans, and so
41:30
Speaker 2: you have it says the European Central Bank has been
41:32
Speaker 2: laying the groundwork for a digital Euro for several years,
41:35
Speaker 2: entering the preparation phase back in late twenty three. So
41:38
Speaker 2: again eighteen months ago, and it says a final decision
41:41
Speaker 2: from the from EU law makers on whether to greenlight
41:45
Speaker 2: the central big digital currency is expected by the end
41:47
Speaker 2: of this year. And so the European Central Bank President
41:51
Speaker 2: he makes a comment, I think it's critically important and
41:53
Speaker 2: for the agnostics or the skeptics, it now seems more
41:57
Speaker 2: relevant and more imperative than ever before, both on the
41:59
Speaker 2: wholesale and on the retail level. And the sense of
42:03
Speaker 2: urgency comes amid a shifting landscape in the United States
42:06
Speaker 2: where the Trump administration's pro cryptostance has raised eyebrows in Europe.
42:11
Speaker 2: And just a couple other quotes and then get your
42:13
Speaker 2: thoughts on this. Pierre Gromegna, Managing director of the European
42:18
Speaker 2: Stability Mechanism. More than America's pivot towards stable coins, these
42:23
Speaker 2: are cryptocurrencies pegged to assets like the US dollar, could
42:26
Speaker 2: embolden US and foreign tech giants to roll out mass
42:30
Speaker 2: payment systems tied to dollar denominated tokens. And I'll just
42:33
Speaker 2: say this that on that these well, I'll just keep
42:37
Speaker 2: reading because I have a couple of things that says
42:39
Speaker 2: if he quote, if this were to be successful, it
42:41
Speaker 2: could affect the Euro's monetary sovereignty and financial stability. He
42:45
Speaker 2: argued that the European Central Bank must act swiftly to
42:49
Speaker 2: make the digital Euro a reality, framing it as a
42:52
Speaker 2: vital tool to safeguard europe strtategic autonomy in an increasingly
42:56
Speaker 2: digital financial world. Gramegna's concerns are not hypothetical. Tech giants
43:00
Speaker 2: like Meta have previously attempted to launch stable coin based
43:04
Speaker 2: payment systems, such as the ill fated DM project, which
43:08
Speaker 2: aimed to pair a digital currency with a wallet for
43:11
Speaker 2: global transaction. It's also worth noting that at the time
43:14
Speaker 2: when the DM libra was introduced, most regulators had a
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Speaker 2: more hostile approach towards such innovations, and now they are
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Speaker 2: far more receptive and cooperative. And I'll just remind people
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Speaker 2: again on this that what we've seen Trump are Musk
43:28
Speaker 2: discuss again. We have Meta, but Musk has discussed turning
43:35
Speaker 2: x dot com into a payment platform, and we know
43:38
Speaker 2: that if people can remember that Musk was one of
43:41
Speaker 2: the founders of PayPal, so he sees in the future
43:44
Speaker 2: the need to mimic what we see already in the
43:48
Speaker 2: East in China with the Ali Baba app. I mean,
43:52
Speaker 2: the stuff that they do is already cashless everywhere, so
43:54
Speaker 2: they're trying to get this into the West. And so
43:59
Speaker 2: the last common here. As global financial systems digitize, the
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Speaker 2: EU faces a pivotal choice accelerate its central big digital
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Speaker 2: currency plans or potentially risk seding influence to dollar backed
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Speaker 2: digital currencies. But the long term impact of these innovations
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Speaker 2: could be a lot different, with many different forms of
44:18
Speaker 2: digital currencies competing for market share. Here we are Gary,
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Speaker 2: I mean, this stuff is being implemented right now. It
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Speaker 2: not going away.
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Speaker 1: And as you read that, my heart beat a little
44:28
Speaker 1: bit faster because I was going back in my mind
44:32
Speaker 1: to the end of the twentieth century. And you know
44:38
Speaker 1: about thirty twenty five, thirty years ago, people were talking
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Speaker 1: about the ten elements of world rule. And you remember
44:48
Speaker 1: the maps. They were printing maps and here's how it
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Speaker 1: might be laid out, and they were looking at Bible prophecy,
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Speaker 1: our wonderful friend at the time, Tim Lahay came out
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Speaker 1: in many May anyways and said, Okay, here's the way
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Speaker 1: it's going to be. There will be these ten rulers,
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Speaker 1: and here's the way they might be positioned.
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Speaker 2: The Club of Rome idea.
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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, And he and many other people laid out
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Speaker 1: and what about the European community, you know when it
45:16
Speaker 1: was divided the way it was is oh here it is.
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Speaker 2: Yep, Jack Nimpi was on it.
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Speaker 1: But now we come another stage further and we've just
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Speaker 1: been talking about two things. Number one, global oligarchy yep
45:29
Speaker 1: and the ten oligarchs yep. And global monetary systems that
45:37
Speaker 1: didn't even exist ten twenty years ago when we're talking
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Speaker 1: about this. So now we have a much clearer focus
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Speaker 1: on what we've been talking about for the last three
45:48
Speaker 1: or four decades. The one World government.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely and you know that again great segue because the
45:53
Speaker 2: last article I want to bring up this was an
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Speaker 2: excellent article written by Alex Newman just in the past
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Speaker 2: few day Because the question always is where where is
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Speaker 2: the U N the United Nations? We know it's pretty
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Speaker 2: inept in what it's done, uh, and it's in its efficiency,
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Speaker 2: but will the UN be part of that final B system,
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Speaker 2: it most likely has to be in some regard. But
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Speaker 2: he he wrote this article entitled U N Shipping tax
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Speaker 2: to fuel global tyranny and that the question that has
46:29
Speaker 2: come up is the UN has one. Let me say
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Speaker 2: it this way. One of the reasons for its ineptness
46:36
Speaker 2: is that it lacks a lot of money. It's funded
46:38
Speaker 2: by nations, primarily the United States. It's based in New York.
46:42
Speaker 2: But it's all it's longed. It's just desperately wanted a
46:46
Speaker 2: way to raise money, and because it knows with money
46:51
Speaker 2: that it can influence far more. And so it's interesting
46:55
Speaker 2: going back to even King Charles he a at a
46:58
Speaker 2: I don't know. People can find the you online, but
47:01
Speaker 2: he talks about nobody knows exactly who he was talking about.
47:05
Speaker 2: He made a comment that we need to have trillions
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Speaker 2: of dollars at his disposal, like, well, who's his there?
47:14
Speaker 2: But will that be the coming Antichrist? Most likely? But
47:17
Speaker 2: the question is is where are they going to get
47:18
Speaker 2: the money? Well, now you have the UN trying to
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Speaker 2: do this, and it says Alex writes this. Alex is phenomenal.
47:27
Speaker 2: He's always a speaker at our conferences. He says this,
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Speaker 2: a powerful but little known UN agency is quietly plotting
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Speaker 2: to impose global taxes on international maritime shipping under the
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Speaker 2: guise of fighting carbon dioxide emissions and climate change. Americans
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Speaker 2: are expected to pay the bulk of the financial costs,
47:45
Speaker 2: but all of humanity will bear the brunt of an
47:47
Speaker 2: empowered UN. The International Maritime Organization IMO scheme to tax shipping,
47:53
Speaker 2: originally backed by the Biden administration, would give the UN
47:56
Speaker 2: unprecedented power to raise money on its own. It will
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Speaker 2: also lead to soaring costs for US consumers while transforming
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Speaker 2: the nature of the UN forever. There are several more
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Speaker 2: rounds of negotiations to be finalized, but if all goes
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Speaker 2: according to plan, the UN could be vacuuming up billions
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Speaker 2: of dollars each week by twenty twenty seven. And so
48:17
Speaker 2: there's a couple other things that I think would be interesting.
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Speaker 2: The UN estimates, he writes, and various analysts have long
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Speaker 2: said the carbon tax on shipping and loan could raise
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Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollars per year or more. That would
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Speaker 2: pay for a lot of global government, public loyalty, and
48:31
Speaker 2: enforcement power. And so one last quote he says here
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Speaker 2: ironically A report by the governments pushing the plan called
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Speaker 2: for giving some of the tax revenue of the UN
48:44
Speaker 2: to those most impacted by the increased costs of shipping.
48:47
Speaker 2: In short, the UN plan would hurt the poor and
48:50
Speaker 2: their nations the most by increasing the costs of their
48:52
Speaker 2: essential goods such as food, and in response, the UN
48:55
Speaker 2: would then make them dependent on one amounts on what
48:59
Speaker 2: as to basically new UN welfare schemes. So these governments,
49:04
Speaker 2: some of these poor governments, are saying, oh, this is great,
49:06
Speaker 2: but what they're saying is, hey, make sure to give
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Speaker 2: us kickbacks. So ultimately it's going to be a tax
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Speaker 2: on the United States and our wealth which is going
49:15
Speaker 2: to then can be kicked back to these welfare.
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Speaker 1: As we're talking what's going on, Terraforce. Yeah, absolutely, this
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Speaker 1: is right spot on exactly what you've been reading about
49:26
Speaker 1: and the sort of the missing link in global government
49:32
Speaker 1: as people have envisioned it over the last twenty or
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Speaker 1: thirty years. Bible scholars have looked at this and scratched
49:39
Speaker 1: their heads as how can this come about? Today? I
49:43
Speaker 1: believe we're actually seeing it come about, which is very exciting.
49:48
Speaker 1: It sort of puts the cap on everything else we've
49:51
Speaker 1: been saying, and as we speak literally the battle is
49:57
Speaker 1: terra force global taxation. How's that going to work out?
50:01
Speaker 1: And who will be the controlling entity when all the
50:05
Speaker 1: smoke clears? And to me, the Bible has a very
50:09
Speaker 1: good fix on this whole system.
50:12
Speaker 2: When we see in Revelation thirteen, and we'll kind of
50:15
Speaker 2: wrap it up, is when we see in Revelation thirteen,
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Speaker 2: we see a political organization, we see economics, and we
50:21
Speaker 2: see a religious and so the things that we're seeing
50:24
Speaker 2: right now, Gary, is the infrastructure of all these things,
50:27
Speaker 2: all the technological infrastructure and political infrastructure being put in place.
50:32
Speaker 2: I mean, let's not leave people. Let's not leave people
50:36
Speaker 2: on a downer here. Oh now you know in this sense,
50:39
Speaker 2: you know, share with the audience of Gary if you will.
50:42
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's listening to this, and well, what do
50:44
Speaker 2: I do? I don't know anything about this. I need
50:47
Speaker 2: to get my life right. I mean, what is the hope?
50:49
Speaker 2: What is the gospel? It's good to end with the gospel.
50:52
Speaker 2: How does somebody get saved?
50:53
Speaker 1: You know what? The gospel is called the blessed Hope.
50:56
Speaker 1: And at a time like this, particularly like being in
51:00
Speaker 1: the path of a hurricane or a tornado. You see
51:04
Speaker 1: it coming and you say, oh, what can I do?
51:07
Speaker 1: You know, and the best thing you can do is
51:12
Speaker 1: pray to your Lord and say, Lord, I need your help,
51:17
Speaker 1: I need you to watch over me at this is
51:19
Speaker 1: a rough time in my life. And you know, that's
51:23
Speaker 1: exactly what the Bible suggests for what it predicts will happen.
51:28
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about what it predicts. We started
51:32
Speaker 1: out talking about a red heifer and a little battle
51:35
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and we've expanded to a global
51:39
Speaker 1: scenario and we know it's coming. And so I I
51:45
Speaker 1: would recommend refining your prayer life, appeal to the Lord
51:51
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ and to the leading of the Holy Spirit.
51:56
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you that's going to settle down those
51:59
Speaker 1: little things that are flittering around and your tummy every
52:05
Speaker 1: time you think about global economics. Absolutely.
52:08
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, people can
52:10
Speaker 2: check out First Contents fifteen one through five. What do
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Speaker 2: we see. We see that Jesus died for sinners, he
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Speaker 2: was buried, he was resurrected to eternal life, and for
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Speaker 2: us to put our faith and trust in his payment
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Speaker 2: for our sin. I mean that's it's pretty clear. And
52:26
Speaker 2: then as we look forward, Jesus told us, as we've
52:29
Speaker 2: been saying, you know, the whole time, that we are
52:31
Speaker 2: to be watching. He's in Mark thirteen thirty seven. He
52:34
Speaker 2: told us to be too busy about the Lord's kingdom.
52:37
Speaker 2: But I mean that's the key. I mean, I mean
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Speaker 2: you can close this. Gary. What's the phrase? I love
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Speaker 2: the phrase that you say all the time because it's true.
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Speaker 1: Well, what I was saying, Mando is keep watching. We
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Speaker 1: are