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#228: They Live (1988) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Mama don't like tattletales? Welcome to What's Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite. And least.
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  Favorite scary movies? Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is.
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  Travis, my name's Jesse. And welcome everybody to our
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  Patreon picked episode this. Month.
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  Yes, it was the battle of the wrestlers.
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  Yeah, Battle of the Wrestlers. We had it go up between They
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  Live and See No Evil and Roddy Piper beat Kane.
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  You won. I won the title.
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  I'm very grateful because of See No Evil and See No Evil 2.
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  I find to you to be vastly superior, a point of contention
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  in our household. Well man, we haven't even
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  watched the first one together. That's true.
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  I've watched it as a kid and I remember being very much
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  interested in Jacob. Good boy.
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  I mean, we get Jacob, good boy, in the second one, but we also
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  get who we get like a star-studded cast.
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  You get Daniel Harris, Catherine, Isabel.
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  Thank you. I could not remember her name.
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  I didn't want to sing Danielle Harris and then forget who the
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  other person was. He also the Saska sisters
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  directed. That, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  It's so much fun. Could have been everybody, but
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  no, today it wouldn't have been even that one.
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  Yeah. No, it wouldn't have been.
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  So No, it couldn't have been. Yeah.
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  It couldn't have been but because.
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  Travis posted the survey to keep me honest because there's a
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  highlight. I would have snuck a little two
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  on there. Anyways, we are talking about
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  They Live. Yeah, another John Carpenter
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  movie. It's been a while since we've
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  talked about that boy, so it's time.
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  It's time we get a little bit more of JC up in this piece.
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  Yeah, I think it's warranted because Talia just came in here
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  and knocked over your Michael Myers mask and you said that man
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  never did anything to anyone. And I said there are multiple
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  movies indicating that that's not the truth and so.
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  They made Jason part of the mayor.
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  Would be OK, so announcement, the only announcement is that we
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  did our two beer not to be this past weekend and it was on evil
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  tunes and we have thoughts and it's a movie.
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  Yeah, we go terrifically off the rails with that when we had fun.
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  So listen to it if you like having fun.
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  Maybe don't listen to it if you really love the movie or if you
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  love podcasts that stay incredibly on topic, which, in
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  what case, what are you doing here?
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  That's not what this show's about.
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  We. Stay fairly on topic generally.
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  And in that episode, we really, we, we never strayed too far
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  from the path, but we do go out there and you kind of have to
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  with that movie. It's, it's a bonkers little
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  experience right there. So, yeah, we absolutely check it
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  out. Yeah.
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  In the meantime, I have our poll results.
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  Oh yeah. We did a poll, we talked about
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  hostile part three last week. So we wanted to know where would
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  you guys like for the next Hostile movie to take place?
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  Or this series I suppose. So the four options were
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  Germany, Mexico, Japan in space. And I want you guys to know that
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  Travis texted me. He was like, here are my
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  thoughts for the poll. And he had all of that, except
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  instead of space, he had South Sudan.
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  And I said put space on there, you coward.
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  Look, you want to know the truth?
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  I picked the other three because I thought that they would be
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  interesting locations. And then whenever it came to the
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  final one, I was like, what's the place that has like a
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  history of like being bad for tourists And also like, it's
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  just marked as like a very dangerous country to visit.
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  And South Sudan is the 4th most that's dangerous country to
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  visit. So I was like, all right, let's
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  still South Sudan. But when Jesse said space,
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  because of that episode, we talked about the whole space
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  thing. It just felt so right.
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  You either go to Vegas or you go to space.
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  And yeah, I think AI think a brave franchise would do both.
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  I'm brave and stupid franchise which is hostile.
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  Yeah, exactly. Stupid.
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  Exactly. OK, so the answer is over on
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  Instagram, nobody wanted Germany, 42% wanted Mexico,
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  Nobody wanted Japan, 58% wanted space.
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  Over on Twitter, nobody wanted Germany 22%, Mexico 11%, Japan
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  67% space. I'm not going to lie, originally
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  my idea for a good one would be Mexico, but then whenever you
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  said space, I kind of thought I kind of wish you also in space.
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  So I space is my vote too, yeah. Obviously I want space.
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  Hostile in Space just seems the right amount of absurd for that
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  series. The next one It doesn't even
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  have to make it to the 7th sequel.
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  The 4th one is perfectly fine. To go exactly, exactly this
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  franchise is already way off the walls.
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  Bonkers. We're good, we're fine.
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  All right. So thanks everybody for
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  participating in that poll. Yeah.
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  So what's good end of day with? Yay.
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  By the way, why can I ask why did you choose that as the
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  opening line? I do love that line.
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  Because I thought that the bubble gum one would be too
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  expected. Yeah, but it's expected because
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  it's so great. I know it is so perfect.
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  I listen. I like to pick iconic and
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  important lines in the movie, but I also want to see how much
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  I can surprise you with what I do with the opening.
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  That's so. OK, you did a good job.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I love that one.
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  What was it again, Mama? Mama don't like tattletales.
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  Yeah. Rowdy, Rowdy Piper.
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  Just every line is delivered Florida State.
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  So yeah, including that line. I was trying to think of like
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  what the full quote would be and I don't know why but in my mind
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  it's like I'm here to spank tablers and kiss Mamas and Mama
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  don't like tattle tales Like what?
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  I know I confused so many people in the bank.
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  My God. Alright alright, let's let's go
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  into They Live. So They live released November
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  4th, 1988. We watched this on our Scream
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  Factory 4K. If you want to watch it
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  currently, you pretty much have to watch it on Stars.
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  There's no other place to stream an episode.
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  Stars. With AZ.
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  With AZ, yeah you can. Premium streaming service Stars
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  with AZ. Or maybe up in space with the
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  next Hostel movie. You can maybe watch it up there
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  too. It's possible.
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  You can rent it on Apple, Amazon, YouTube, or Fandango at
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  home though. Fandango at home, formerly
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  Voodoo. Noted streaming service Fandango
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  Apple, formerly Voodoo. Featuring other movies from
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  stars with AZ? Yes.
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  Premium streaming service Stars with AZ.
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  The very same. It's worth the money, y'all, If
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  you've never seen it or if you have seen it and it hasn't been
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  a while, or if you watched it last night and you're just like,
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  man, do I wanna watch it again. It's worth the money.
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  It's worth it. Although at that point, if
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  you've watched it very recently, just buy.
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  Just buy it on physical media. There's a lot of additions out
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  there. You don't even need to get the
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  4K, but there's plenty of ways to get this thing out there.
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  I can't wait for like 20 years from now the documentary on
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  streaming wars and how they basically shot themselves in the
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  foot and cannibalized themselves and pushed people back to
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  pirating and physical media ownership.
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  Yeah, You know, it really is kind of one of the I like having
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  things. I like having it's, I like to
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  collect it. It's one of the things that I
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  like to collect. But I also like it because I
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  don't have to rely on a streaming service exactly.
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  It is nice to have that as an option.
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  And I do Speaking of this, I do want to follow up and say that
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  Travis has finally conceded that Xbox may in fact be slightly
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  Xbox. She was actually have.
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  Moved our Blu-ray player from the bedroom back out into the
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  living room. It's a Boy Ray player that I've
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  had since I can't even remember how long.
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  But yeah, we moved it out to the living room in this play.
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  It played. You had it.
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  My mom got it for us for Christmas like 10 years ago.
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  I'm thinking of the TVI. Had Yeah, you're thinking of the
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  TV. Yeah, whatever.
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  Yeah. So yeah, thank you for that blue
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  ray player. It's saved our ass because we
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  are actually able to watch some things.
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  Now that we want Travis also has a very special thank you for him
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  Mama Naomi a couple months ago on Tubi and on to be with wolf
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  cop Travis made the beautiful glorious pun I'm Sasquatch and
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  you and I said please somebody put this on a T-shirt and what
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  arrived two days before his birthday, but a customized U
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  shirt from none other than my mother that said it says
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  sasquatching you. Yeah, Sasquatching you.
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  Yeah. Oh my God, that was pretty
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  amazing. Like it took a minute for it to
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  quick for me. I was like what does?
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  That mean? Yeah, it says.
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  Squatching you wolf God. Yeah, that was a good surprise.
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  So thank you. That a plus listener status
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  right there. Yes, and you want a plus, you
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  know. Mama.
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  Status, Mama. Status.
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  Yeah. Mama don't like Tatlers.
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  Mama do not like tattle sales, Yeah.
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  All right, so where was it? All right, here we go.
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  Written by. Yeah, no, we have not gotten
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  anywhere with this yet. We're off the road again.
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  Like our Tiny Tunes episode? Evil tunes.
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  Yeah, Tiny Tunes is the show shit.
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  Tiny Tune Adventures now the shows written.
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  By. Written now.
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  Our song is done. Yes, written by.
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  Written by based on a short story is what I have written
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  here. By based on the shorts.
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  For you. OK, All right.
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  So it's based on a short story called 8 O Clock in the Morning,
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  which is a short story and a comic by Ray Nelson.
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  John Carpenter took that and took the inspiration from that
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  and adapted the screenplay into this, Although he has himself in
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  the movie credited as Frank Armitage because he had so many
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  influences on the story and he had so much input from the cast
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  and crew that he didn't feel comfortable taking soul riding
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  credit for this. Wow, OK.
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  Yeah, which is cool. I remember seeing in the opening
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  tracks that it had not his name. I'm like, that's weird.
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  I could have sworn that this was a John Carpenter ridden movie,
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  but yeah it. Is Frank garbage?
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  Directed by him though. Directed by John Carpenter,
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  music by John Carpenter and Alan Howarth, who has done all of the
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  other Halloween movies that were like 4-5 three, a lot of the
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  ones that he was quasi involved in as like a producer.
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  Or a writer, Alan Howarth do that.
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  Yeah, that was him. Yeah, he did the soundtrack.
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  Good job, Alan. Yeah, special effects.
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  We have Roy Arbages who did the special effects and then the
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  prosthetics was designed by Sandy Kane.
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  OK, Did John Carpenter reveal it as his wife now?
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  Oh, OK. Good for them.
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  Yeah, in the interviews on the desk.
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  At least that's what he. Said which of the interviews?
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  Because there were interviews from various stages on there.
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  Because I looked up at one point and I was like, oh, this is
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  earned the right to be cranky, John Carpenter.
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  And then at one point I looked up and I was like, was has just
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  always been cranky. John Carpenter.
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  Yeah, he he didn't change too much in 30 years.
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  I love the man's brutal honesty. There was one point that he
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  somebody asked if the fight scene, if they ever thought they
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  were gonna cut it down, and his answer was just no.
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  Yeah, I love it too. And that's the right answer for
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  that fight scene. He he's earned it and I love how
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  he's just no bullshit. He's like, this is like Mujah,
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  how I feel about. Things if you've never seen his
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  his labio like test. It's in a labo.
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  Labo yeah. If you've never seen him testing
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  the piano for that, that footage is fucking amazing.
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  I'm look. Oh God, we're going off the
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  rails again. But I love John.
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  Carpenter, we have to. I no, I'm talking about Nintendo
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  here. I love the idea of the Nintendo
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  Labo because it's such an accessible thing.
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  You don't even need to buy that. It's just like, go get a
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  cardboard box from the back of a store and now you've got an
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  accessory for your Nintendo. It's awesome.
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  However, John Carpenter, as John Carpenter does, is like, this is
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  fucking shit. Just because.
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  They gave him like a little tiny piano and they're like composed
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  something and he's like, what the fuck is this?
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  That's what it is. He plays video games.
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  He's a weird. He's a big gamer now.
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  Yeah, he plays Destiny all the. Time, man, I love that man.
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  And he's Kentucky. Yeah, he's a big basketball boy
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  too, of course, because he's Kentucky.
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  Yeah, he's Kentucky. He's he's from my neck.
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  Lewitz. Yeah, Bowling Green.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  All right, I've only got three people written down in the cast
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  because that's really all you need to know for this movie.
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  So we have Roddy Piper is not a Keith David is Frank.
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  Meg Foster is Holly. Yep.
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  And then everybody else is just kind of side characters that
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  have importance but aren't majorly.
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  Important. Yeah.
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  No, I I honestly like Roddy. Roddy and Keith David steal the
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  fucking show. Yeah, they absolutely do.
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  All right, time for a favorite game on the show.
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  Budget or budgeted? Prime John Carpenter here.
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  This is prime John Carpenter. But also I'm going to be
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  completely honest and I did hear some of the discussion about the
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  budget when you were doing this earlier.
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  How dare you? Well, you waited until I woke up
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  and started drinking my coffee this morning to watch the
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  interviews, so I don't know what you.
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  Expected. I watched this whenever I was
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  awake too. I'm just saying like you were up
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  a while before me, you could have watched it before then.
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  I'm like John Carpenter. I had to play some video games.
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  Talk about how it sucks. Bug Ted.
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  OK, Yeah. Because I remember I'm being
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  surprised because if I hadn't heard that, I would have guessed
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  budget. Really.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Just based on like the amount of fight scenes and like the the
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  fact that they would have had to double all of their set props
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  for everything. Like, you know, when you see
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  like, not even just the black and white, but like, you know,
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  the billboards and the magazines and everything changing, like
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  they have to like redress those sets and they have to have props
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  for all of them twice. And it just.
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  I would have guessed a lot more. He said out of the entire movie,
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  The most expensive scene in the movie was when he went into the
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  grocery store. I could see that because he
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  really fucked some shit up in there.
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  He fucks shit up in. There and there's a.
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  Lot of people in there that are aliens.
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  But yeah, there's a lot of like special effects makeup that they
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  have to do. There's a lot of again, it's
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  like the double set dressing thing.
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  Yeah, because he's he, he's mostly with the glasses for that
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  scene, but there are glimpses of him without it.
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  And yeah, yeah, you're right, there's a lot going on there, he
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  said. Also, because it was a tight
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  space, it was kind of difficult. Yeah.
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  So, all right, so the budget it's $4 million.
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  Wow. So, so it's it's not terrible
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  like for 88, I think that it's still.
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  Pretty for 88. And this is a pretty tight movie
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  too, yeah. So yeah.
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  For sure opening box office 4.8 million.
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  Rude. Worldwide gross 13.4.
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  Also rude, but I'll accept it. I don't know how true this is, I
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  just read this like I was curious and read it in the IMDb
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  trivia, but allegedly this movie opened at #1 and was quickly
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  removed from theaters. I don't know if that has to do
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  with the messaging in the movie and they didn't want that to get
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  out there. Obviously, Travis.
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  Yeah. They're silencing him.
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  I'm just, I mean, that's, that's what is said, but I don't know
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  how true that is. But it's still made some pretty
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  good. But also, if the movie is making
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  you money, consume baby, consume it's.
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  True, it's it's a part of the problem in a sense.
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  OK IMDb 7.2. Hell yeah.
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  Yeah, that's a really high score.
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  Hell yeah. All right, so I have a theme for
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  this week. I'm very curious.
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  It's fuck the man. Fuck the man.
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  Yeah, fuck the Bruins. What the fuck is a?
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  Bruin. Yeah, fuck the man, Fuck the
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  machine, fuck it all. OK, all right.
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  Which men? Which men are we fucking?
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  Let's go fuck some men. Well, the first one is the
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  maniac cop. OK, Yeah.
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  He's a large man with a large chin, so.
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  A cap even Charlie Swan, unfortunately.
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  Yeah, so maybe a cop released May 5th or no May 13th, 1988
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  Budget of 1.1 million worldwide gross 671,000 IMDb. 6 outs in.
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  But I was thinking the same thing.
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  You made like a little E face like, but this is a time when
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  and this is a time that no longer exists, but you can make
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  these movies and they would still have a good beefy enough
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  budget like that and you would make plenty with the home media
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  sales. Yeah, I guess.
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  So you don't have to worry about worldwide growth so much anymore
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  because it always makes its money back with the home media.
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  It's kind of like also when we talk about, like, movies around
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  the COVID era to how a lot of those went straight to
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  streaming. So that kind of fucks up our box
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  office numbers. Exactly.
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  Yeah. And that's part of the reason we
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  like to look at, you know, movies from the same era.
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  Yeah. Exactly.
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  So that actually it does make the box office numbers look
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  better for They would, they would, Yeah.
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  And it looks. Pretty impressive, honestly.
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  All right, the next movie. What's right?
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  The IMDb. No, I said that 6000. 6000 OK, I
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  just couldn't remember, OK. Yeah.
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  That's a good movie. I like that movie a lot.
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  Yeah, I like that one. I like the second one.
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  Yeah, I've not watched the 3rd but we have it.
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  We have the third we need to watch.
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  It I need to watch it all right the next movie.
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  Thanks Mutant Fan the. Brain The.
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  Brain. That was on the.
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  Last drive recently I. Think it was the Christmas
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  episode there was. The whole point of that is the
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  brain is an alien that is using the TV to take over people.
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  Yep, that feels kind of a similar.
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  Message to What's going on with thematic?
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  Yes. So the release for that was
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  November 4th, 1988, the same day as they live.
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  OK, OK, so that's man. Can you imagine the double
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  feature that weekend? You just leave the cinema
• 18:55
  cynical as hell, OK? Yeah, you're saying cinema now?
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  No shout out, Kendra. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Well.
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  I'm excited because in just a couple of days, from the day of
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  the release of this episode, we will be in the cinema with our
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  Kentucky mutant fans. That's true.
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  I imagine that this time though, it seems like it was very much a
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  lot of people fed up with the current climate.
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  I I heard John Carpenter say Reagan a few times.
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  That motherfucker hates Reagan. He like, yeah, the entire time.
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  He's like bitching about Reaganomics, which is totally
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  warranted. Do you think Do you think John
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  Carpenter listens to Killer Mike?
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  I could see him listening to Killer Mike.
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  Honestly, he, I, he had an interesting take about the
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  movie. He's like, honestly, I, he said.
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  I feel like the 80s never left. I feel like we're still in the
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  80s, like Reaganomics never left.
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  Everything is still trickled down down the rich or richer
• 19:58
  than they ever have been. Absolutely.
• 19:59
  It's like he, yeah. Which I, you know, it was really
• 20:04
  interesting hearing him talk about.
• 20:06
  His whole thought process behind this.
• 20:08
  He's a man I want to get a whiskey with at a bar.
• 20:10
  I'd be afraid to because I don't know.
• 20:11
  I don't want to know what he thinks.
• 20:15
  Honestly. Like God, man, I respect you and
• 20:17
  I don't want to have you hate me.
• 20:19
  Yeah. I want you to respect me also.
• 20:22
  Yeah. You would be going to bring up
• 20:24
  Hot Rod again. You'd be like Rod fighting
• 20:27
  Frank. I need to.
• 20:28
  You'd have to fight John Carpenter and beat him.
• 20:31
  Kick your ass John Carpenter, make you respect me all.
• 20:39
  Right. This could like find this way
• 20:41
  out there and it could be one of those YouTube boxing matches
• 20:43
  where I box John Carpenter. Don't make that ever happen,
• 20:46
  please. I don't want to box him.
• 20:48
  They finally announced John Carpenter for Scare Fest and he
• 20:51
  shows up and he like does a whole WWE promo.
• 20:55
  He's like. And I'm going to kick Travis's.
• 21:00
  I would love that. He's a big wrestling fan too.
• 21:03
  OK, don't I say the IMDb because the IMDb is 5.2 on the brain.
• 21:07
  OK, OK, All right. And the final movie, it's not
• 21:11
  one that we've watched, but it seemed to fit thematically.
• 21:14
  It's called Prison. It's about a guy that was
• 21:17
  convicted, and I'm assuming wrongfully so.
• 21:21
  And he is, he either breaks out or he gets released and he's
• 21:25
  gonna go fuck over the guy that fucked him over, which was the
• 21:29
  governor of the the prison. OK, so apparently something
• 21:33
  happened there. The system was suppressing him,
• 21:35
  keeping him down. He's going to fuck some shit.
• 21:37
  Up, yeah, as systems like that are kind of designed to do,
• 21:40
  basically. It's like legal slavery, yeah.
• 21:43
  Basically. Yeah, yeah, for profit prisons
• 21:45
  are like a fucking abomination on this earth.
• 21:48
  Yeah, so yeah, fuck the system that released March 4th, 1988
• 21:53
  with a $4 million budget, same as they live worldwide.
• 21:57
  Gross 345,000 IMDb 5.8 OK, so apparently it's a pretty decent
• 22:05
  little movie there. Seems like maybe we should watch
• 22:06
  it. Seems like it.
• 22:08
  Seems like a law abiding citizen of Jamie Foxx wasn't such a
• 22:11
  prima Donna. Yeah.
• 22:13
  That that pisses me off every time I read about that cuz it'll
• 22:17
  come up like, you know, times like stars influence the end of
• 22:20
  a film or whatever. He wasn't supposed to win at the
• 22:23
  end of law abiding season, by the way.
• 22:25
  Spoiler or. Yeah, well, it's like over 10
• 22:28
  years. That's fine.
• 22:29
  Yeah, that's. True.
• 22:30
  You you can bleep that out if you want though.
• 22:32
  But yeah, no, it's just one of those.
• 22:34
  Like it completely changed the whole tone of the movie.
• 22:37
  OK, ready for some taglines? Yes.
• 22:40
  It's funny, I. I was so nervous because I saw
• 22:42
  your worksheet was blank in the tagline section and I was like,
• 22:45
  that can't be true. No, I got him on my phone.
• 22:47
  OK, and it's funny. The main reason I did it is
• 22:49
  because the one on the poster is long.
• 22:51
  And it's funny because I had to zoom in and crop out his
• 22:54
  forehead. So I'm just looking at his
• 22:55
  forehead with text on it right there.
• 22:58
  So the tagline on the poster is you see them on the street, you
• 23:02
  watch them on TV, you might even vote for one this fall.
• 23:06
  You think they're people just like you.
• 23:08
  You're wrong. Dead wrong.
• 23:12
  Especially frightening in an election year.
• 23:15
  It was an election year that year.
• 23:17
  Yeah, one, I mean right now too for us looking at it, yeah.
• 23:19
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 23:20
  Isn't that it's wordy? I know generally we don't like
• 23:24
  those, but I like that one a lot.
• 23:25
  Yeah, no, it it works. And especially with the whole
• 23:27
  like element of like, is this a cult?
• 23:30
  Are we being indoctrinated? Like, yeah, I feel like it ties
• 23:34
  in well with the themes of the movie.
• 23:35
  I like it a lot. Yeah.
• 23:37
  All right. I got a couple of others here.
• 23:38
  Cat. Next up, obviously I have come
• 23:42
  here to chew bubble gum and kick gas.
• 23:45
  And a bubble out of bubble gum. Such a classic one, I love it so
• 23:49
  much. I want on AT shirt or a hat.
• 23:54
  I've come here to chew bubble gum and pet dogs, and I'm all
• 23:57
  out of bubble gum because I've. I make that joke literally every
• 24:00
  time we go to Thursday Night Live.
• 24:03
  That's true. Yeah.
• 24:04
  Travis can tell you like, anytime I'm a little sad.
• 24:06
  He's like, do you want to go to Thursday Night Live and pet
• 24:08
  dogs? I kind of want this as like a
• 24:09
  tattoo of Roddy Piper doing that.
• 24:12
  That'd be sick as well. That might be one of my next
• 24:16
  tattoos. All right, Next up, obey.
• 24:19
  Or else. Alien invasion of the subliminal
• 24:22
  kind. Oh.
• 24:25
  I like that, yeah. They control what you see.
• 24:29
  They decide what you hear. You think they're people just
• 24:31
  like you. You're wrong.
• 24:32
  Dead wrong. There's a variation.
• 24:34
  There's a variation on the theme.
• 24:36
  The final one, who are they and what do they want?
• 24:41
  We kind of know them by the time we watch the movie, and they're
• 24:44
  aliens and they want you empower your resources.
• 24:49
  They want your money. Yeah.
• 24:52
  They want to bleed you dry. Yeah.
• 24:55
  Just like all the other billionaires.
• 24:58
  Fun. Backs All right, so as we
• 25:03
  discussed before, it was originally based off of a short
• 25:07
  story by Ray Nelson. The whole premise of the short
• 25:11
  is this guy George Nada, which Nada is the name of Roddy
• 25:16
  Piper's character I have. A question, yeah.
• 25:19
  Is that ever explicitly said in the movie?
• 25:21
  OK, never said because I in my notes he was just RRP for Rowdy
• 25:25
  Roddy Piper because I was like I don't know this guy's name.
• 25:28
  No, it's Nada. His name is Nada, and it's based
• 25:31
  off of the character from the original story, George Nada.
• 25:34
  So the premise of that story is George Nada wakes up, realizes
• 25:39
  everybody is hypnotized, and he has until 8:00 in the morning to
• 25:42
  fix it. OK, that's frightening.
• 25:44
  Yeah, John Carpenter saw that. I was like, I, I like this.
• 25:48
  It's entertaining. It became a comic also, and
• 25:50
  that's where he initially was exposed to it.
• 25:52
  He's like, I don't necessarily think that the hypnotize thing
• 25:56
  works so well. So I'm going to just take this,
• 25:58
  take the inspiration from this and make it about just people
• 26:02
  being controlled subliminally, OK?
• 26:06
  Essentially. OK, so again I said before he
• 26:10
  used a pseudonym because too many sources for the rioting, so
• 26:14
  he just didn't want to take full credit for it.
• 26:17
  I respect that too. I respect that a lot.
• 26:20
  Yeah, I didn't. Yeah.
• 26:21
  And it would be great to like be able to track down all of the
• 26:24
  different sources for it. But if you can't do it, next
• 26:25
  best thing like not. I mean, he lists a few people,
• 26:28
  like, you know, Roddy Piper contributed lines in this movie.
• 26:31
  And there's like so many people, like so many influences for this
• 26:35
  right here. There's a comic book, there's a
• 26:36
  short story. There's all kinds of things.
• 26:39
  Well, and there's it was something that was discussed on
• 26:41
  this ends at prom last week where they were talking about
• 26:44
  how it's a lot harder, especially like as a woman
• 26:47
  writer to get your like recognition, like your your
• 26:50
  input recognized in the script, especially not just as a woman
• 26:55
  writer, but as a woman director. And the film that you're talking
• 26:57
  about specifically had a woman director, and they were like,
• 27:00
  based on her other works, it and interviews and everything, it
• 27:04
  seems likely that she had a lot of involvement in the script,
• 27:06
  but she didn't even get a writing credit.
• 27:09
  Oh, that's so. Yeah.
• 27:10
  And I hope I'm not misquoting that, but it was like a really
• 27:13
  interesting discussion that they had about that, so.
• 27:15
  About blockers, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 27:17
  So it's God, I love the Colangelos.
• 27:21
  I know I've mentioned them plenty of times, but go listen
• 27:23
  to that episode. It's a fun movie.
• 27:25
  It's got John fucking Cena and Catherine Newton.
• 27:28
  And Ike Barinholtz. And Ike Barinholtz and Leslie
• 27:32
  Mann, it's just, it's a really good movie.
• 27:34
  It's a good. Yeah, it's a good movie.
• 27:36
  The director is really good. She's done a lot of other shit.
• 27:39
  But yeah. And listen, the wives,
• 27:41
  Colangelo, have a lot of really good background information on
• 27:43
  it. And they talk about things like
• 27:45
  that. You know how it is harder for a
• 27:46
  woman to get their their contributions recognized in
• 27:49
  writing credits like that? So that sucks.
• 27:51
  So it does suck, but it does make me feel good to hear that
• 27:56
  my favorite little grumpy old man didn't want to take sole
• 27:59
  credit but didn't have a way to credit everybody that was
• 28:01
  involved. He gives Fred where Fredits do.
• 28:05
  For those who listen to our Evil Tunes episode, that's a callback
• 28:09
  right there. So John Garber had cast Roddy
• 28:12
  Piper because one, he's a big wrestling fans Madam at
• 28:15
  WrestleMania. I can't remember which one it
• 28:18
  was, but he met him back there and then he was just so inspired
• 28:23
  by how real he was. He didn't want to cast a typical
• 28:28
  Hollywood actor because Hollywood actors, a lot of them
• 28:31
  don't give off real people vibes.
• 28:33
  But Roddy Piper's got scars. He's got the whole persona of a
• 28:37
  working man. He's a real down to earth guy
• 28:39
  and he liked that about him. He is a real American and he
• 28:42
  fights for the rights of every man.
• 28:45
  Wrong guy, but probably more appropriate to be going to him.
• 28:49
  Yeah, yeah. I was trying to tie, do a tie
• 28:52
  in. Yeah, I was tying a tie in.
• 28:54
  You did a good job there. Yeah, Hulk Hogan kind of turned
• 28:56
  out to be a piece. Of shit, yeah.
• 28:57
  Hulk Hogan probably would have voted for Reagan.
• 29:00
  Probably did. He was.
• 29:01
  He was alive then. Yeah, he came out of the womb
• 29:05
  like Hulkamania right there. Hulkamania.
• 29:08
  Rigamania. He cast Keith David, though,
• 29:13
  because he wanted somebody to not feel like a sidekick.
• 29:18
  He wanted somebody to like, be able to hold their own with
• 29:22
  Roddy Piper. And that is just, it's such
• 29:24
  beautiful casting. I'm never mad when I see Keith
• 29:27
  David Keith David on my screen. He's amazing.
• 29:29
  He's an amazing. He's an amazing actor and I
• 29:32
  can't pick their their chemistry together.
• 29:35
  Like I just, if the whole movie was them I would be happy.
• 29:40
  Like I feel like there's far too many scenes of Roddy alone.
• 29:44
  Yeah, it takes a long time for Frank to join up with him, but
• 29:49
  when it does, I like the dynamic of the two of them together.
• 29:52
  Yes, it's fun. I like it a lot.
• 29:53
  Yes. So Roddy Piper came up with the
• 29:57
  one liners himself. I know this is probably common
• 30:00
  knowledge for a lot of people, but for those that don't know,
• 30:02
  he proposed it to John Carpenter.
• 30:04
  He's like, look, I've got this list of one liners that I use.
• 30:08
  I'm a wrestler. Yeah.
• 30:10
  As you may know. Yeah, these are things that I
• 30:12
  say and these are things that I've prepared.
• 30:14
  So here are some of them. And then he saw that I'm here to
• 30:18
  kick ass and chew bubble gum and a mall on a bubble gum line.
• 30:21
  He's like, that's perfect. I didn't, he didn't even want
• 30:23
  credit. He's like, I did not come up
• 30:24
  with that. That was all righty.
• 30:25
  So that's probably part of the writing right there that he
• 30:28
  credited to him. And that's one that's the most
• 30:30
  iconic thing for this. Movie, that's the way.
• 30:32
  Everybody remembers. Yeah, Roddy Piper and Keith
• 30:36
  David rehearse that fight scene for three weeks.
• 30:40
  I like I was watching that and it definitely it has like fields
• 30:44
  of pro wrestling, like those specific flips they do and even
• 30:47
  down to like the sounds like there's one point where he like
• 30:52
  flips Keith David over his shoulder and lands him on the
• 30:55
  ground. And it's the same sound that you
• 30:56
  hear when they, like, land on the mat in the ring where it's
• 30:58
  like. Yeah, it was apparently super
• 31:02
  well done because Roddy Piper is obviously super experienced with
• 31:06
  that type of stuff right there. Dude and he's like a surprising
• 31:09
  bulk, you know what I mean? Like you can tell like he's an
• 31:12
  in shape person. But then when he had his shirt
• 31:14
  off, I was like, boom. It was funny because I was, as
• 31:17
  part of this right here, there's an interview that was listening
• 31:20
  to with him talking to Howard Stern and Howard Stern's like,
• 31:23
  you did steroids. I was like, Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I
• 31:25
  did. Steroids like.
• 31:26
  Everybody did. I don't see a problem with it.
• 31:28
  Yeah, it's not a natural body. Like you don't get that by like
• 31:31
  being a home again, that's the. Realness that John Carpenter's
• 31:34
  telling. Yeah, I appreciate the.
• 31:37
  Like, it's refreshing to be like, oh, yeah, I just steroids.
• 31:40
  Yeah, everybody does steroids like that.
• 31:41
  Yeah. So yeah, they rehearsed it for
• 31:44
  three weeks. It runs for 5 minutes and 20
• 31:47
  seconds. The whole reason that he wanted
• 31:49
  it, John Carpenter just told the stunt guy, I want classic fight
• 31:54
  scene that is reminiscent of John Wayne stuff.
• 31:59
  OK. And apparently it just kept
• 32:03
  rolling and rolling and rolling after they rehearsed it and he
• 32:06
  didn't want to cut any of it down.
• 32:07
  He's like, it's just let's let it play out because it's a lot
• 32:10
  of fun to watch them do that. And I don't know how true it is,
• 32:14
  but apparently they actually got to a point to where they were
• 32:17
  like trading boys for real except for hitting the face and
• 32:19
  hitting the groan. But they were actually doing the
• 32:21
  wrestling moves all themselves. And Keith David was a boxer, so
• 32:25
  he had that fighting with him to the some man said he had to, he
• 32:30
  had to take him and put him up a little bit to Roddy Piper's
• 32:35
  level. And he had to take Roddy Piper
• 32:36
  and bring him down a little bit to make them both me in the
• 32:38
  middle equilibrium. Yeah.
• 32:41
  And we got a. Balanced fun fighter.
• 32:42
  What's that? Oh God, it's so.
• 32:44
  Iconic. It's one of my favorite that I
• 32:46
  look forward to it every time we watch this movie.
• 32:48
  I'm like two of my like favorites there on screen and
• 32:52
  just having a good fucking time and giving the audience a show.
• 32:56
  It's a highway and it. It includes wrestling moves like
• 33:00
  from Yeah, Piper. He's like, all right, here's
• 33:01
  some of my shit right here and like, let's just do that.
• 33:04
  It's fun. So interesting.
• 33:07
  Thing that. Happened with this because Roddy
• 33:10
  Piper did this movie. Vince McMahon who runs WWF at
• 33:15
  the time was not a fan. He did not endorse this movie.
• 33:19
  And Roddy Piper, you said Vince McMahon.
• 33:22
  In my entire mouth sucked in because he's a litigious man,
• 33:26
  he's a litigious man. He's a.
• 33:28
  Terrible bastard man too. He's a lot of nasty things have
• 33:32
  come out about him here recently, which makes me this.
• 33:35
  All that follows here makes me respect Roddy Piper even more.
• 33:39
  But he he told Roddy Piper, I don't like you doing that movie.
• 33:44
  Don't do that movie. I will line you up with another
• 33:47
  movie myself in four weeks. Just do that.
• 33:50
  And Roddy Piper said, yeah, but it's not going to be with John
• 33:53
  Carpenter. And then he's like, I'm going to
• 33:55
  do it. He's like, I don't like it.
• 33:57
  He's being a control freak. He sent him a message in the
• 34:00
  mail. He sent him a letter, all caps,
• 34:02
  saying I don't want to do that movie that you're wanting to do.
• 34:06
  I want to do this movie instead. I don't care.
• 34:09
  And because of that, he ended up being booted from the WWF.
• 34:13
  He lost ties. He had a following out with
• 34:15
  Vince McMahon. So he ended up coming back to it
• 34:20
  later. Well, as many.
• 34:22
  Wrestlers do, yeah, but as a. Result he like because of his
• 34:28
  fame from this movie and all kinds of other things, he became
• 34:30
  a much popular character than he was previously.
• 34:33
  So he actually thanks John Carpenter for making him as
• 34:37
  successful as he was later down the line, which led to him being
• 34:42
  the Maniac and It's Always Maniac Sunny in.
• 34:45
  Philadelphia I've. Got kids?
• 34:47
  And somewhere, the final thing I'm going to.
• 34:52
  Say for fun facts is it was originally scheduled to go up
• 34:55
  against Halloween 4 on October 21st.
• 34:58
  Just funny because John Carpenter was a producer for
• 35:01
  that movie but they decided to move it because of that and they
• 35:04
  rescheduled it for its date of November 8th also to align with
• 35:08
  the election that came. I would have watched.
• 35:11
  That double feature too though. Halloween for into they live.
• 35:15
  Oh my God, I would too. I mean, I would do that like
• 35:17
  today, yeah, we can do. We can do that on Halloween if
• 35:22
  we want. That's true.
• 35:23
  Nobody's stopping us. It's not illegal.
• 35:25
  It doesn't even have to be Halloween.
• 35:26
  Yeah. Tomorrow what's going to?
• 35:27
  Happen. Is John Carpenter going to come
• 35:29
  here and kick your ass? Maybe, But we can still watch it
• 35:33
  if you don't think. Three hour drive he.
• 35:35
  Can do it. He's like I watched.
• 35:38
  That fight from a very close perspective, I know the moves I
• 35:44
  will he. Will find me.
• 35:45
  Hard. He could probably.
• 35:47
  Kick your ass he would. He like he would kill my spirit
• 35:52
  and he would also break me physically.
• 35:55
  I wonder what? I'm literally.
• 35:58
  Picturing him being Bane and picking me up and breaking my
• 36:01
  spine, that's what John Carpenter would do to me.
• 36:06
  All right. So that's it for fun facts, OK.
• 36:09
  So let's get. Into our discussion.
• 36:11
  Good. Bad, away.
• 36:12
  Absurd. Jesse, what did you like about
• 36:15
  this movie? Oh God.
• 36:17
  Like I've already said, Roddy and Keith steal the fucking
• 36:21
  show. They're just absolutely Dynamo
• 36:24
  together. They, they have such a charisma
• 36:29
  each individually, and then when they're together instead of it,
• 36:34
  it's not like a Vin Diesel, Dwayne Johnson situation.
• 36:37
  Yeah, they they don't. Have egos that get in the way,
• 36:40
  yes. Yeah, they are allowed to exist
• 36:43
  in both. They both have the spotlight.
• 36:45
  Neither one of them steals a show.
• 36:46
  Yes, and. I love that.
• 36:48
  I love the one liners. I love that it almost feels like
• 36:51
  a video game in some ways because it starts off, it feels
• 36:54
  like a very long like cut scene, you know, like where you're,
• 36:58
  you're at the beginning of the video game and you're getting
• 37:00
  the lay of the land. Like this is what's happening.
• 37:03
  You know, at an all time high, you've got to go try and find
• 37:07
  Twerk and you're going to stay here at this place.
• 37:10
  And then you get the glasses and that's when you start doing like
• 37:13
  the tutorial piece and then it cuts into the actual game.
• 37:15
  And that's when he's in the bank and the grocery store and he's
• 37:18
  just going buck wild. Like that's how it feels.
• 37:22
  And it just it makes no goddamn sense.
• 37:24
  But it's so much fun. And like The thing is that even
• 37:27
  though it makes no goddamn sense, it is like a very deep
• 37:30
  movie. And you sit here and you watch
• 37:32
  it and you're like, Oh my God, this is like critiquing so much
• 37:35
  of like how we spend our lives. You're making me sad that.
• 37:38
  They never made a video game if they live right, but I would
• 37:41
  play the shit. Absolutely.
• 37:43
  We're just gonna have to settle for like, pulling up some like
• 37:46
  vintage raw 64 and yeah, well, we no, we can do.
• 37:51
  We can do the WWE now. They have classic characters.
• 37:54
  They might have Roddy Piper, and then we can do a build your Own
• 37:56
  of Keith David. I just have that fight.
• 37:59
  Yeah, let's do it that. Sounds like a great time.
• 38:01
  Yeah. But yeah, I think it's so much
• 38:04
  fun. And I love the ambiguity around
• 38:07
  Meg Foster's character. She isn't Meg Foster.
• 38:12
  Meg Forster, I feel like I should know her name because it
• 38:15
  feels like a foster. Yeah, Meg Foster.
• 38:17
  It feels like a well known name. And I'm sure she's in other
• 38:19
  things. I'm sure there are people.
• 38:21
  She is now like a a collaborator of Rob Zombie movie.
• 38:25
  She's in a lot of those. OK.
• 38:27
  Yeah, yeah. So I should know her among more.
• 38:29
  Famous, yeah, but. Yeah, yeah, OK, that should be a
• 38:33
  name. I know.
• 38:33
  And that's why it rings familiar.
• 38:35
  But she honestly like her character is important but isn't
• 38:40
  on the screen a whole lot. But there's also some ambiguity
• 38:42
  because it feels like she's one of them.
• 38:43
  But in the glasses, you don't see it.
• 38:45
  And even after, like, the signal goes out, you don't see it.
• 38:47
  But like, it feels like there's something there with her.
• 38:49
  It makes sense like that, the fact of everything.
• 38:52
  Yeah. And I like that it's.
• 38:53
  Left ambiguous there at the end still, even though she's clearly
• 38:56
  on the bad guy's side. But it's like, not sure if she
• 38:59
  was, like, recruited or if she's like, maybe like a head Mama,
• 39:03
  you know what I mean? Yeah.
• 39:04
  Or a force. Yeah, against her.
• 39:06
  Own will. Yeah, I.
• 39:09
  Just yeah. So I, I like what this movie
• 39:12
  does. I like that it talks a lot about
• 39:14
  propaganda. And I like that it takes like
• 39:17
  more marginalized people, you know, people in like, we've got
• 39:19
  this little encampment, you know, and they're all like
• 39:23
  building their own community and working together.
• 39:25
  And that's targeted by the cops. And you think it's just because,
• 39:28
  you know, like, you know, racism and classism and things like
• 39:34
  that. But part of it is also because
• 39:36
  they're trying to make sure that they're not being exposed
• 39:38
  because so many of the people in the like, what they call the
• 39:41
  terrorist group. But I really like the rebels for
• 39:45
  us, like when we see them like they're the rebels, that's
• 39:50
  really why they're being targeted.
• 39:52
  And it's it, it parallels so much that is still relevant,
• 39:55
  even heartbreakingly today. Yeah.
• 39:58
  And it's kind of. Impressive, yeah.
• 40:01
  It's it's. Impressive and it's also bleak.
• 40:04
  So I just I got there's a reason this movie is still, you know,
• 40:09
  so widely renowned and so widely talked about today for like
• 40:12
  horror fans. And you know, that's one of the
• 40:14
  things though, that bums. Me out is how it's still
• 40:17
  relevant today. Like you would have hoped that.
• 40:20
  Like maybe? Calling shit out and making
• 40:24
  getting the message out there would have, but no, let's still
• 40:26
  pass. Laws that makes it even harder
• 40:28
  for unhoused folks to find a safe place to sleep at night
• 40:31
  Yeah, that's a local thing that's.
• 40:33
  Happening here. God, yeah.
• 40:35
  All right, you. Got any other good stuff I I
• 40:37
  mean? That's that.
• 40:39
  Those are the big points. Go ahead and share yours I.
• 40:42
  Feel like this movie walked a very a very tight line, like a
• 40:51
  delicate balance of beating you over that with the message and
• 40:57
  making it still entertaining and not feel like it's beating you
• 41:02
  over the head. Yes, it's one of those.
• 41:04
  Movies that it's very blunt with its message, but you don't feel
• 41:07
  like you're being preached at. Yeah, exactly.
• 41:09
  And. That's the thing that kills me
• 41:11
  with some movies, like some of the Purge movies, they kill me
• 41:14
  with that. Like I I like the message that's
• 41:16
  being said, but a lot of the times when you just keep
• 41:19
  outright saying it and like doing that it, it just takes me
• 41:23
  out of it. But this movie, it doesn't do
• 41:25
  that. I think a good part of it.
• 41:27
  Is that Rowdy Roddies character I I don't know why I can't just
• 41:30
  call him Roddy. Roddy Piper, yeah, He, he's
• 41:35
  optimistic. He still thinks things are going
• 41:37
  to get better. He's like, if I if I keep my
• 41:39
  head down and I work hard, things will eventually get
• 41:41
  better. And he, we're on that journey
• 41:44
  with him as his, like, eyes are opened, he's awake again.
• 41:49
  And I think that's really interesting.
• 41:52
  That is interesting. And I.
• 41:53
  Think that kind of. Helps to some of it because
• 41:55
  you're going on that you're not just like all of a sudden like,
• 41:58
  oh, bad things are happening. Oh, are these the bad guys?
• 42:01
  But it's more like, oh, hey, everything's still the same as
• 42:04
  it was. It's just now I've got a
• 42:05
  different perspective on it. I think personally the thing.
• 42:08
  That works most for me is how it's presented.
• 42:11
  I think the way that they do it with the glass is where you're
• 42:13
  able to see through the bullshit and you're able to see the
• 42:16
  messages that are being hidden. That's like, that's a fun way to
• 42:19
  do it. And then making them aliens.
• 42:21
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's making them not.
• 42:24
  Human. It dehumanizes them in a way
• 42:28
  because I mean, they're kind of being not human.
• 42:31
  And that also helps with like. Our human nature because we can
• 42:33
  root against a bad guy that is very definitively othered.
• 42:38
  Yeah, exactly. And unfortunately as.
• 42:40
  Humans, we love to other. It does, yeah.
• 42:44
  It helps with that. It helps with that a lot.
• 42:47
  It just, it takes the message, it retains the message and keeps
• 42:53
  the core that we know that the message is grounded, but the
• 42:56
  presentation is not. And I think that that's a great
• 42:59
  way to balance that out. Yeah, I.
• 43:02
  Definitely agree with that. It's definitely a different
• 43:04
  presentation from how a lot of other movies choose to go about
• 43:07
  it. Yeah, it's a good way to do.
• 43:09
  It and God, I don't know what else to say that we haven't
• 43:12
  said, but like, yeah, like the acting, the characters are
• 43:15
  fantastic. I watch this movie and I feel
• 43:20
  like I pick up different things every single time I watch it.
• 43:22
  Absolutely. It's just, yeah.
• 43:24
  God, it's so good. OK, So what are some bad things?
• 43:29
  I think for me the main bad is that it just ends so abruptly.
• 43:33
  It does. Yeah, it ends very abruptly.
• 43:35
  And I mean, I kind of like. The note that we're ending on
• 43:38
  that like, OK, all of a sudden chaos maybe is about to erupt.
• 43:41
  But, you know, we've spent all of this like, we're fighting to
• 43:44
  take down the bad guys. And then what happens?
• 43:47
  We see Rowdy and Keith are killed off and we, I mean, yeah,
• 43:52
  the bad guys are exposed. But what happens after that?
• 43:55
  We don't know. We don't get that, like,
• 43:57
  ultimate payoff. It could have been worse than
• 43:58
  that, John. Carpenter was talking about how
• 44:00
  he's like, I like bleak endings. I know audiences don't like
• 44:04
  them, so I kind of wanted to give people a little bit of
• 44:07
  something, showing the good guys one.
• 44:09
  But I still wanted to take away a little bit of something.
• 44:11
  So he like had to kill Roddy, Piper and David.
• 44:15
  I mean I. Like a bleak ending too.
• 44:17
  But I almost wish that the ending, it almost feels too
• 44:20
  ambiguous, like if we had maybe cut to like one of the aliens
• 44:24
  being like, all right, Plan B, you know, something that shows
• 44:26
  that like, they're still gonna like take over and win.
• 44:29
  Like, that's a bleak ending I can get on board with.
• 44:31
  It's just, and so like, you don't know what's gonna happen
• 44:34
  next, other than that one alien's not getting his Dick wet
• 44:38
  no more. But like, that's true.
• 44:40
  Beyond that, I'm worried. That it would be like real life
• 44:44
  where people would have should like spell it out for them so
• 44:48
  blatantly and they would be like, well, OK, I don't care.
• 44:50
  Well, they'd be like that one the.
• 44:52
  Real country guy that was in the encampment with them and then he
• 44:56
  got recruited and he was like well, you know, it's all
• 44:58
  business partners. Well, he's actually getting.
• 45:01
  Something from it that there's so many people that do, but they
• 45:04
  think that someday. They will get something from it.
• 45:06
  They're deluded. They think that, you know, if
• 45:09
  they pay their dues, they're they're going to get, I guess
• 45:12
  you're right. The big piece.
• 45:14
  Of the pie, you know. Yeah, I suppose that's true.
• 45:19
  Bad things, man. What are some bad things about
• 45:21
  this? I will say there are things like
• 45:24
  I, I feel like a lot of the plot progresses very unnaturally.
• 45:28
  It's all very much like walk after walk after walk of things.
• 45:32
  I know the movies are like that a lot for sure, but that's why.
• 45:35
  I I have to think of this as like a video game because
• 45:38
  otherwise it falls apart for me. But like the all of a sudden he
• 45:40
  goes like his world's upended and he goes balls the wall, like
• 45:44
  I'm going to go into a bank and a grocery.
• 45:46
  I'm going to fuck shit up. Like that's wild.
• 45:49
  That's wild. And then he like.
• 45:51
  Escapes and he goes falling through like a fucking building
• 45:54
  and falls down a whole hill and he's like, all right, I'm OK,
• 45:57
  yeah. Again, Hot Rod.
• 46:00
  Yeah. He's like when he leaves his
• 46:02
  angry place. That's true.
• 46:03
  Yeah, I would have. Killed to see Roddy Piper do a
• 46:06
  punch dance. OK, ugly.
• 46:10
  Stuff. I mean, the ugly is pretty.
• 46:11
  Yeah, the uglies. Really.
• 46:13
  Are I don't feel like we really necessarily need to spell it out
• 46:15
  because so much of it is still true in in today's time.
• 46:19
  Like there are people out there that you know, they they do
• 46:22
  their best, they try and work they try and do, you know, the
• 46:26
  best they can to provide for themselves and their families.
• 46:29
  And because of whatever reason, sometimes it's because the
• 46:34
  barrier for entry is so high, you know, like today, you have
• 46:38
  to like, especially in the United States, you have to have
• 46:40
  a car to be able to transport yourself to and from work.
• 46:43
  You have to have a safe guaranteed place to live where
• 46:47
  you can properly sleep and shower and charge your phone
• 46:51
  because a phone is a necessity these days.
• 46:53
  That way you can be reached. It's most of our alarm clocks.
• 46:57
  We have to have e-mail. We have to have Internet like
• 46:59
  the barrier for entry to even get like a minimum wage like
• 47:04
  like. Entry level job.
• 47:08
  Is so high and we do have a lot of people that are facing us and
• 47:12
  that's not even taking into account any like physical or
• 47:15
  mental health issues that come into play that compound these
• 47:18
  types of issues so it. And the fact that.
• 47:25
  Society as a whole tends to be like, well, I've got mine, I
• 47:27
  don't need to worry about yours. You're hurting my interests, I
• 47:30
  think, Keith. David's character worded it
• 47:32
  perfectly when he's talking to nada and he's like, look man,
• 47:36
  it's like they start us at the finish line and they put us
• 47:39
  against each other. Like I'm gonna do my best.
• 47:42
  We're both going to go out there and do our best, but I'm going
• 47:44
  to do my best to fuck you over and make sure you don't beat me.
• 47:47
  Absolutely. That's the whole.
• 47:48
  Point. That's the whole.
• 47:49
  Game that's been established, absolutely, because if we're
• 47:52
  fighting each other. We're not going to fight the
• 47:54
  bigwigs that are making the rules that are controlling us
• 47:56
  all. Exactly.
• 47:58
  God, it's like shit like that. Like whenever they say that
• 48:01
  stuff it just hits. Now I'm sad.
• 48:04
  That's what the movie. Does can we talk about
• 48:06
  something? Absurd now?
• 48:08
  Yeah, let's do some absurd. OK.
• 48:10
  Five minute fight scene. It's amazing.
• 48:13
  It's not necessary, but we love it.
• 48:15
  Do another. That's an It's like Meg
• 48:17
  Forster's. Eyes.
• 48:19
  Are those her foster? God damn it I want her to have
• 48:22
  more Rs in her name. Merge.
• 48:26
  Forrester. Her eyes are.
• 48:31
  You asking if? Those are her actual eyes.
• 48:32
  Yeah. Yeah, they are.
• 48:33
  John Carper even commented on it.
• 48:35
  They're beautiful. And hypnotizing and they do not
• 48:37
  look real. He grew up, he said he.
• 48:39
  Grew up like watching her and being a big fan of her too and
• 48:42
  said I don't even know if like growing up and he was like an
• 48:45
  old older dude by the time that he was but.
• 48:48
  He was like, yeah, like everybody.
• 48:50
  Just like is always focused on her eyes and like, yeah, like
• 48:53
  her eyes are beautiful and stunning, too, but there's a lot
• 48:54
  more. Yeah.
• 48:55
  No, I mean she does a. Lot it's just like her eyes like
• 48:58
  it. It does beg the question like
• 49:00
  are that is real? It's insane blue.
• 49:02
  Yes, like I. Don't even know how.
• 49:04
  That shade is they're like almost like a.
• 49:05
  Blue silver. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's really
• 49:08
  like, it's beautiful. And let's see Roddy's fall down
• 49:13
  the hill. Yeah, so.
• 49:16
  Many shots. Of him just walking across a
• 49:18
  train track. You know.
• 49:23
  There's just, there's a lot of absurd here and it's all fun
• 49:27
  Them, just like all of the people from their little
• 49:30
  encampment found the same abandoned department to huddle
• 49:34
  in. See, that's one of the things I
• 49:36
  was. Talking about like that and then
• 49:38
  whenever they all imagine or all managed to meet up for the big
• 49:42
  meeting for the group because yeah, Keith.
• 49:45
  David's character. Is in the lobby of the hotel
• 49:47
  wearing sunglasses, like, hey, wait a minute, Come over here.
• 49:51
  Yeah. Also the ambiguity of the
• 49:53
  timeline, cuz in some ways it feels like it's been 3 days and
• 49:57
  in some ways it feels like it's been six months.
• 50:00
  That's true. So yeah, there's, there's a lot
• 50:04
  of absurd here and I honestly, I don't care about any of it cuz
• 50:07
  I'm having fun. Yeah, OK.
• 50:09
  Well, you, you said a lot of them.
• 50:12
  Mine. Is it's funny cuz I grew up
• 50:16
  playing double O 7 Goldeneye OK and for those of you who played
• 50:21
  that game and know that game will be very familiar with the
• 50:24
  sound effects in that game and whenever they shoot guns in this
• 50:27
  whenever they are going through the radio station and just like
• 50:30
  firing non-stop it's the sound effects from Goldeneye the
• 50:34
  entire time. Well, I'm pretty sure they.
• 50:36
  Reused that same shot and sound over and over and over again
• 50:39
  because every time there's a shot it's just a close up of the
• 50:42
  the noozle of the gun. Not even that.
• 50:45
  Like throughout the movie, Yeah, it's just that.
• 50:47
  But I know what you're talking about.
• 50:48
  They use that Yeah, yeah, yeah, the entire.
• 50:50
  Time but. Like it's just like the like, I
• 50:54
  don't know if you hear it and you know what I'm talking about,
• 50:57
  you know exactly what I'm talking about and that shit.
• 51:00
  Is just burned. Into my brain playing that game
• 51:02
  as a kid growing up, so maybe some other people will be
• 51:06
  familiar with it. OK, OK.
• 51:08
  So what do you rate it? 8.75.
• 51:14
  OK. Yeah, I'd give a.
• 51:18
  Solid 9.25. So we've got a starting average.
• 51:22
  Of nine. Beautiful, wonderful.
• 51:24
  Love it. Very good.
• 51:25
  It feels appropriate. Yeah.
• 51:28
  All right, let's go. All right, so we kick it off.
• 51:35
  We see the rail yard. Rowdy Roddy Piper is walking
• 51:40
  along the rails. He's gone to a city.
• 51:43
  He's just, he's just a little mullet haired flannel dude bro
• 51:48
  in the big city. God bless.
• 51:49
  Much like Travis and last week's Travis.
• 51:54
  God bless them boys. Listen, if we don't remember
• 51:58
  this on our own, somebody at us and remind us to post the
• 52:02
  picture where Travis is posting standing right next to the TV in
• 52:06
  his flannel shirt with his little plastic wiffle ball bat.
• 52:11
  It wasn't just like Rowdy Rowdy. It's it's a beautiful, it's a
• 52:15
  work of art photo, if I may say so.
• 52:17
  So just if we haven't posted it by now, just remind us to post
• 52:21
  it so. Nada is walking through town.
• 52:26
  He goes to the unemployment. Office.
• 52:28
  Yeah, and they don't have any. Drops.
• 52:29
  Yeah, he said he. Worked in Denver.
• 52:31
  He worked there for 10 years. But like everything kind of just
• 52:34
  like shut down and there's nothing available for him now
• 52:37
  for his qualifications. Yeah.
• 52:40
  So he's. More shots of him walking around
• 52:43
  town. He's he's the street preacher
• 52:45
  who's speaking the truth. This is the first time my.
• 52:47
  Skin hasn't like, curled away from a street preacher.
• 52:51
  Yeah, 'cause this guy's. Like actually saying good
• 52:53
  things. Yeah.
• 52:54
  I don't know if it's. Different in other cities, but
• 52:56
  generally in Kentucky, if you see a street preacher, they're
• 52:59
  condemning the queers and I think generally when that.
• 53:02
  Happens. It's because one, that's during
• 53:04
  pride, or two, you're on a college campus, which that's
• 53:08
  just kind of like a common thing at college campuses.
• 53:11
  Yeah. And he passes ATV.
• 53:13
  Display. There's a great moment on the TV
• 53:15
  display. This is one that I caught for
• 53:17
  the first time last night that now Travis is going to be
• 53:21
  watching for the next, next watch.
• 53:23
  There is that there is like a movie or TV show or something,
• 53:27
  and it's like a couple of guys and they're like celebrating
• 53:31
  winning, like a touch football game or something.
• 53:33
  Like, yeah, we did it. It comes up later.
• 53:36
  So this is important. You know, it's something cool.
• 53:38
  You weren't in the room during this, but on our Blu-ray they
• 53:42
  have. They had the footage from those
• 53:46
  and they assembled it and you can just watch what was on the
• 53:49
  TV. That was the fullest segments.
• 53:52
  Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
• 53:53
  So whoever's doing a. Speech or the commercials or the
• 53:56
  live events that were taking place.
• 53:58
  You can watch them on if you have the Blu-ray.
• 54:00
  That's cool. Yeah, it is.
• 54:01
  Cool. And then we cut.
• 54:02
  To like later that night he's kind of sleeping in an alley and
• 54:05
  he's watching ATV through an apartment window and it's
• 54:07
  somebody talking about the smut filth on TV these days yes and
• 54:11
  they specifically. Call.
• 54:13
  So here's a cool thing about this.
• 54:15
  They are. The characters are, maybe this
• 54:19
  is later that they do this, but one of the moments when they are
• 54:23
  criticizing violence and sexuality and media, Yeah, it's
• 54:29
  based off of the likeness of of Roger Ebert and one of the other
• 54:33
  dudes on one of their shows. Shit.
• 54:35
  Yeah. So it's them.
• 54:36
  And like, it's that character calling out John Carpenter.
• 54:39
  And I think there's another director that they call out.
• 54:42
  So I can't remember who exactly, I forget which.
• 54:44
  Movie it was that we were talking about not too long ago,
• 54:47
  but you're like, yeah, Roger Ebert probably fucking hated
• 54:49
  this movie too. OK yeah.
• 54:50
  And I looked it up and it was like.
• 54:52
  And Noah's child's play too. Oh yeah.
• 54:53
  And it was one of his least favorite movies of 1990.
• 54:55
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the dude fucking.
• 54:57
  Just hated horror for the sake of it.
• 54:59
  Yeah, and he and. The thing.
• 55:03
  The motherfucking thing. Also John Carpenter.
• 55:06
  Also who? Who?
• 55:08
  Keith motherfucking David and Kurt Russells.
• 55:11
  And Kurt Russells. Kurt Russells with his beard, as
• 55:14
  the Lord intended. I did not appreciate when we got
• 55:18
  to the Fast and Furious franchise, the movies with him
• 55:21
  in it, and we saw his entire face.
• 55:23
  We're not meant to see Kurt Russell's face.
• 55:25
  Jesse then. I've got a John Carpenter movie
• 55:28
  that you should probably never watch.
• 55:29
  Escape from New York? Yes.
• 55:31
  He he has. Beardless and that.
• 55:33
  But it has Loomis. Donald Pleasants as the
• 55:36
  President of the United States of America.
• 55:39
  I do like Donald Pleasants. I hate Loomis, but I like Donald
• 55:42
  Pleasants. He's fantastic.
• 55:43
  You need to watch that movie. God, okay, so.
• 55:48
  He arrives at. A construction site seeking
• 55:52
  work. The guy's like, all right, this
• 55:53
  is a union job. He's like, all right, that's not
• 55:55
  a problem. Do you mind?
• 55:56
  He like, takes. He's like, can I talk to the?
• 55:59
  Shop Person Shot mask Shot mask. Yeah.
• 56:04
  Yeah, he says. It a lot better than we're.
• 56:06
  Saying it, Yeah. And he gets yeah, he gets hired.
• 56:09
  And then the the person run the show is like, listen, you can't
• 56:13
  sleep here you so you got to find some place to go.
• 56:15
  And Frank's like, hey, listen, I know a place you can go if you
• 56:18
  want to follow me. And Nada says Nope.
• 56:21
  And then he just like follows him covertly, but not that
• 56:24
  covertly because Frank's like, hey, like, why?
• 56:27
  Like I told you, you could follow me.
• 56:29
  It's weird that you're doing. It's like I don't like.
• 56:32
  When people follow me and he's like, I don't like following
• 56:34
  people unless I know where they're going.
• 56:36
  This and he told. You where you're where you're
• 56:38
  going. It's like pleasant little
• 56:39
  pleasant town, they call it. Something I imagine considering.
• 56:42
  The history of these people in the current situation that
• 56:45
  trusting people based off of word alone is probably not he
• 56:48
  get that but. Also, he's got very much the
• 56:51
  energy of Talia where we're like, hey, Talia, it's time to
• 56:54
  go outside and go potty. And she's like, no.
• 56:56
  And we're like, OK, well, we're going to go outside and get some
• 56:59
  fresh air and we step outside and she's like, hey, open the
• 57:02
  fucking door and let me out here so and then.
• 57:06
  We're like, what are you? Doing out here and she goes
• 57:07
  nothing. I just, you know, I just, I
• 57:09
  wanted some fresh air stuff. Just, yeah, I'm just looking at
• 57:12
  the carpet here. So.
• 57:17
  They arrive at the encampment and there's food, there's all
• 57:20
  kinds of people there. It's cool.
• 57:21
  Frank's being a good guy hooking a dog, and he explains.
• 57:24
  He's got a wife and two kids in Detroit.
• 57:26
  He's been gone six months. He used to work at the steel
• 57:29
  factories, but he got laid off because there's just a lack of
• 57:32
  work. And he was like, you know, those
• 57:33
  fat cats, They get richer and richer and richer, and then what
• 57:36
  happens? Like, we get kicked out to the
• 57:38
  streets. Yeah, you can tell.
• 57:40
  He's at the point in the cycle where he's fed up with the shit,
• 57:43
  but not he's like, I don't know man.
• 57:44
  I still believe in America, you know, You just put your work.
• 57:49
  Into everything and. Things will come up.
• 57:51
  It's like the positive. It's like what people were
• 57:53
  promised when they heard the Reaganomics stuff.
• 57:56
  And here's the thing. If you're watching this maybe,
• 57:58
  and you know nothing about Rowdy Roddy Piper, and you're hearing
• 58:01
  Keith David talk about his wife and two kids at home, and you
• 58:04
  see that Nada has a wedding ring on his finger.
• 58:08
  And as you understand that that's not Nada the character
• 58:10
  having a wedding ring on his finger, that is Rowdy Roddy
• 58:13
  Piper, the man who will not take off his wedding ring when he
• 58:16
  films, even in movies where it would make sense to not have a
• 58:19
  wedding ring, such as how it comes to Frogtown.
• 58:21
  Yeah. And that's one more reason that
• 58:23
  I love this little man. I respect that too, Yes.
• 58:26
  Big man. Yeah, so it's not yeah, big man,
• 58:29
  but it like it's it's not like a character choice.
• 58:33
  It's it's an actor choice. He keeps his his wedding ring
• 58:36
  on. Don't read into it just because
• 58:38
  Keith David's character has a wife and kids so later.
• 58:42
  That night he's just out there playing harmonica and that's how
• 58:45
  he unwinds. And then he sees you do some of
• 58:48
  the group of there watching TV and the TV station is hijacked
• 58:52
  by a rogue broadcast of a man that's trying to wake up the
• 58:56
  sheeple he's talking about. There's a movement that began 8
• 59:01
  months ago. Scientists accidentally
• 59:02
  discovered blank like it cuts in and out throughout.
• 59:06
  They created a repulsive or a repressive society walled into a
• 59:10
  trance. Focus only on our own game.
• 59:12
  Yep. And then no.
• 59:14
  Everybody. You see that one guy who becomes
• 59:17
  the supporter later, but yeah, gets up.
• 59:19
  He's like, what is this shit? The the.
• 59:21
  Redneck guy, Yeah, he's got a real thick accent.
• 59:25
  Yeah, yeah, he's trying to shut it.
• 59:27
  Down and just make it seem like it's a bunch of bullshit.
• 59:29
  He'd be one of those. Far below the poverty MAGA
• 59:32
  types. Yeah, for sure.
• 59:34
  In in. Today's society, yeah, so.
• 59:38
  Nada gets up and he decides to go wonder and he looks over at
• 59:43
  the church nearby and he sees one of the guys from the
• 59:46
  encampment, Gilbert. Gilbert, Yeah.
• 59:48
  And he takes the street preacher from before and leads him.
• 59:52
  Another thing that's going on during this, The street preacher
• 59:56
  is saying exactly what the guy is saying on the TV, and he's
• 1:00:00
  not even close. So it's like stuff is being
• 1:00:02
  broadcasted through him even. Yes.
• 1:00:04
  So they take him and they whisk him into the church.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah. And then the next.
• 1:00:08
  Morning Nada talks to Gilbert and he was like what's going on
• 1:00:13
  at the church last night and Gilbert was like oh, choir
• 1:00:16
  practice he goes well it ran pretty late.
• 1:00:17
  I heard it going till about. 4:00 AM And he goes.
• 1:00:20
  Well, we're doing an important work there and the church knows
• 1:00:22
  that and they let us use our facilities.
• 1:00:24
  And of course, Nada, being who he is, doesn't buy that.
• 1:00:27
  And he he barters for some binoculars from somebody else in
• 1:00:32
  the little their little town. Yeah, you can see Frank is kind.
• 1:00:35
  Of eyeing him, keeping an eye on him.
• 1:00:37
  He brought this guy here and he's noticing some suspicious
• 1:00:39
  shit going on. Dude it but.
• 1:00:41
  That's so real. It's like when you give
• 1:00:43
  somebody, like, a job recommendation, you vouch for
• 1:00:46
  the. Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  And then you're like, this guy fucked this up.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. And especially because, like,
• 1:00:49
  that's his living place, you know?
• 1:00:51
  And especially in a place like that where so much of it relies
• 1:00:54
  on, like, goodwill and being an important, like, being good to
• 1:00:57
  each other, a contributing member of society.
• 1:00:59
  We live in a society, people. Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  Like it just, I can see him and he even at one point, he's like,
• 1:01:05
  listen, you mind your own business.
• 1:01:08
  You don't worry about this. Just do what you got to do.
• 1:01:10
  I'm trying to get back to my wife and kids.
• 1:01:12
  You need to focus on what's right in front of you.
• 1:01:14
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly so.
• 1:01:18
  He goes over there, he takes the binoculars and he's just
• 1:01:21
  watching the church for a little bit.
• 1:01:23
  He sees some more activity over there and then.
• 1:01:27
  That night. Oh, no, OK, sorry.
• 1:01:31
  He does end up going into the church that day.
• 1:01:36
  He follows them over there and he.
• 1:01:38
  He sees like a wire going through a hole in the wall.
• 1:01:40
  And he realizes that the choir practice is actually just a
• 1:01:43
  tape. Yeah.
• 1:01:44
  It's just like stuff that's being.
• 1:01:45
  Piped through on speakers and it's covering up.
• 1:01:47
  There like covert meeting where they're talking about how they
• 1:01:50
  need to recruit more people and not enough people are part of
• 1:01:52
  this movement. They've got to make moves like,
• 1:01:55
  oh, we've got to make them see, no, they're not ready yet.
• 1:01:59
  And so there's like this box of something he's also before like.
• 1:02:02
  When he first walked in, he saw a lab equipment on the table.
• 1:02:05
  And then next to all of, like, the beakers and stuff, he saw
• 1:02:08
  glasses. Yes.
• 1:02:10
  Yeah. So then he pulls away that false
• 1:02:12
  door, that hidden door, and he finds the boxes that are full of
• 1:02:16
  all kinds of shit he doesn't know yet.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah. But he makes a note of it and
• 1:02:19
  puts the wall back and gets out of there.
• 1:02:21
  And that. Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  The street preacher. Like sneaks up on him and he's
• 1:02:24
  like, you'll be back. They all come back.
• 1:02:26
  So that night there is a raid on the church and the encampment
• 1:02:34
  and everything is like dozed to the ground.
• 1:02:37
  The street preacher and Gilbert are being harassed by the cops.
• 1:02:41
  They're being beaten. And we see at one point, like,
• 1:02:48
  not a seas Frank from across the camp, but they're kind of
• 1:02:51
  separated by the cops. And they end up running separate
• 1:02:53
  ways. Nada's running through an
• 1:02:55
  alleyway where he sees, you know, the church people are
• 1:02:57
  being attacked by the cops. He finds this like, older kid,
• 1:03:01
  like teenager age who's like huddled in a corner, terrified.
• 1:03:05
  And he's like the binoculars. From yeah, he's like come with.
• 1:03:07
  Me and they sneak into the apartment that happened to have
• 1:03:10
  the rest of the guy's family and that's where they stay for the
• 1:03:13
  night and then the next morning we see them all like they're
• 1:03:16
  just checking the remains. Of the encampment, everything
• 1:03:18
  has been completely demolished and nobody knows where to go
• 1:03:21
  next. Yeah.
• 1:03:22
  So this is where Nodded goes back to the church and he gets
• 1:03:27
  the box hidden from inside the wall.
• 1:03:29
  And when he like looks at it, he's like, that's just some
• 1:03:31
  glasses. He takes out a pair and he puts
• 1:03:34
  the box like he hides it in a trash can.
• 1:03:37
  Bad move. That's not like a solid hiding
• 1:03:40
  place. I'm not at all surprised by what
• 1:03:42
  happens later. No, it all makes.
• 1:03:44
  Sense so yeah, he takes a pair and then he puts them on and he
• 1:03:48
  goes walking down the sidewalk and he notices everything's
• 1:03:51
  suddenly black and white and then he looks up and then he
• 1:03:54
  sees the Billboard and the Billboard just says we've got
• 1:03:58
  like all of the. Billboards and signs and
• 1:04:00
  everything. It's like Marian reproduce, it
• 1:04:02
  says so the. Billboard says yeah, obey.
• 1:04:05
  And then he looks at another one.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, Marian reproduce. And then he goes over to a
• 1:04:09
  magazine rack which has all kinds of things, saying things
• 1:04:13
  like no independent thought, consume, buy, stay asleep,
• 1:04:17
  submit, things like that. So.
• 1:04:20
  It's just based off of the. AD or whatever is being shown it
• 1:04:23
  just it's subliminally and when he takes off.
• 1:04:26
  The glasses, it's like, it's unassuming things like travel,
• 1:04:32
  you know, travel advertisements or like a GQ article or, you
• 1:04:36
  know, there's like it makes you like think about like, oh, man,
• 1:04:40
  like I kind of almost wanted to pause in on like the magazine
• 1:04:43
  and read what the article is about.
• 1:04:45
  I know, yeah. Tie it into.
• 1:04:46
  The message it'd. Be kind of interesting.
• 1:04:48
  Yeah. And there's one guy at.
• 1:04:49
  The magazine rack, that is an alien.
• 1:04:52
  Yeah, and he is like a. He looks like a fuck you money
• 1:04:55
  kind of type because he's in a real nice suit and he's in a
• 1:04:58
  hurry and he's got a big wad of cash that he just hands to the
• 1:05:02
  guy the stands super uneasy with.
• 1:05:05
  Nada. Just watching him the entire
• 1:05:06
  time, he's like getting suspicious, yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Well, yeah, I mean, to be fair. That also, I don't care how
• 1:05:13
  normal of a person you are, if somebody's like exactly it's
• 1:05:16
  gonna. Be like what?
• 1:05:17
  The fuck is this guy? Yeah, it's being weird over
• 1:05:19
  here, but because. We know that this guy is an
• 1:05:21
  alien. We can.
• 1:05:22
  He's getting paranoid. Yeah, he's.
• 1:05:23
  Reasonably. Paranoid, but also, even without
• 1:05:26
  an alien, somebody looking like that is reasonable.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, exactly. So and when he's doing that, he
• 1:05:32
  looks at the money and the money says this is your God, Yes.
• 1:05:37
  I there was a part of me that was like, it would be fun to
• 1:05:39
  print a bunch of these for Scarefest.
• 1:05:42
  Then when you go for like that. 'D be awesome.
• 1:05:47
  I would. You know, You know what?
• 1:05:48
  Hand that to John Carpenter. If he ever did that, like, all
• 1:05:52
  right, here you go buddy, and this is your guy, he'd be like,
• 1:05:54
  get the fuck out of my. Line maybe like.
• 1:05:57
  Maybe I respect that. I might wrestle you, but get the
• 1:06:00
  fuck out of here. Yeah, like meet me.
• 1:06:02
  Over at Lex Live later and buy me a shot of whiskey and then
• 1:06:04
  we'll talk, Yeah. So yeah, this is a.
• 1:06:10
  He he goes like searching throughout the town and he's
• 1:06:15
  just like seeing all of this kind of stuff.
• 1:06:17
  He gets into the grocery store and this is where we're seeing
• 1:06:21
  like a bunch of this type of stuff and somebody finally is
• 1:06:24
  like, why are you staring? And he goes, you're real fucking
• 1:06:28
  ugly format a high face over here.
• 1:06:31
  You see, it's funny, when I take off the glasses, you look fine
• 1:06:33
  and then when I put them on, can't stand to look at you.
• 1:06:36
  You're we're fine either way and he's just going off and he's
• 1:06:39
  like you. You're OK, This one real fucking
• 1:06:43
  ugly. It's just like being super mean
• 1:06:45
  to everybody there. Yeah, so.
• 1:06:48
  That's when a bunch of people pick up their wrists and they
• 1:06:50
  talk into their watches, which, again, this movie has a lot of
• 1:06:54
  longevity. I feel like this would play out
• 1:06:57
  very differently in 2024 because so many people have smart
• 1:07:01
  watches. Yeah, it's a yeah.
• 1:07:03
  Completely different situation, but they like like this one can
• 1:07:06
  see. So yeah, he is starting.
• 1:07:08
  To get the. Attention of the police around
• 1:07:10
  there. So he gets the hell out of there
• 1:07:13
  and yeah, as he's running away the cops, he gets hassled by
• 1:07:16
  some. Cops and they run into a
• 1:07:18
  network. He punches one of them and takes
• 1:07:20
  their gun, shoots the other one, and then he shoots the first one
• 1:07:24
  that's starting to stand back up.
• 1:07:26
  And then he goes running. He gets a shotgun out of their
• 1:07:30
  cop car and he enters the bank. And he said, I came here to kick
• 1:07:33
  ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
• 1:07:36
  And then I sees them starting to lift up to their little watches
• 1:07:39
  again. He said, mom don't like
• 1:07:41
  tattletails, blasts them. And then he shoots out a camera.
• 1:07:46
  And then he sees a human cop and he's like, go.
• 1:07:49
  And the human cop does. So he spares them.
• 1:07:52
  Yeah, so then he carjacks a woman.
• 1:07:55
  And this is Holly, played by Mac Foster.
• 1:07:58
  Merge Forester. And.
• 1:08:03
  He he says you're gonna just need to take me to your house.
• 1:08:06
  And she's like, what? I don't feel comfortable with
• 1:08:08
  that. And he goes, well, you don't
• 1:08:09
  really have a choice. And she goes, you have two guns,
• 1:08:12
  you can feel comfortable doing whatever you want.
• 1:08:14
  No, he's like. I'm sorry, she's like, you're
• 1:08:17
  not sorry. You have two guns, you're in
• 1:08:19
  control. And did you like the neighbors?
• 1:08:21
  Out there that are like hi Holly and like.
• 1:08:27
  And so they get in there. And he takes off the glasses and
• 1:08:29
  he's like, man, this thing is like coming down for real
• 1:08:32
  intense high. And he's, like, trying to
• 1:08:35
  explain everything that he saw. And none of it makes any sense
• 1:08:39
  to her because the like, why would it?
• 1:08:43
  Why would it make any sense? And, you know, she's trying to
• 1:08:47
  do the like, OK, we're going to appease this person that's
• 1:08:50
  taking me hostage. We're going to be kind.
• 1:08:52
  And then she's like, can I get up and get a drink?
• 1:08:55
  So she gets up and get a drink, and he starts to ask about her
• 1:08:57
  because generally, he's not like, I'm going to kill people.
• 1:09:00
  I see kind of guy like yeah. And he's seen that she's.
• 1:09:04
  Not got a formaldehyde face, so he's willing to hang with her
• 1:09:09
  and she's an assistant program director for Cable 54 and he's
• 1:09:14
  like, oh hey, we can get the message out from the cable show
• 1:09:18
  then that's a great idea. He gets really excited and.
• 1:09:21
  Stands up real quick and then she takes that opportunity to
• 1:09:24
  take the wine bottle and bash him in the head.
• 1:09:27
  He. Flies through this window and.
• 1:09:31
  Rolls. Down 50 cartoon hills at like it
• 1:09:35
  just he just keeps going it's like if you've ever seen Kung
• 1:09:38
  Pao like at the beginning where the baby's going down the hill
• 1:09:41
  and the woman goes oh baby and. Just bye.
• 1:09:44
  Bye, yeah. Rolls it down there.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah, it's kind of like that. Yeah, he he takes a little
• 1:09:50
  beating down there and he makes it to the bottom of the hill.
• 1:09:53
  He's OK, but he's like, I'm not going back there.
• 1:09:56
  So he ends up sleeping under a bridge for the rest of the
• 1:09:58
  night. Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  And then he sneaks to. The work site, he worked there
• 1:10:02
  for approximately a day before he didn't show up.
• 1:10:04
  So I kind of get why the the guy was hesitant to hire him in the
• 1:10:07
  1st place. Yeah, he's over.
• 1:10:10
  There, trying to get Frank's attention, but Frank doesn't
• 1:10:12
  want anything. Yeah, he's like you.
• 1:10:14
  Killed people and also quit your job.
• 1:10:16
  And also, yeah, I put my home in danger so bye.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah, so. He then goes and returns to the
• 1:10:24
  alley where he left the glasses, but the trash can is empty
• 1:10:28
  because people collect the trash.
• 1:10:30
  Go figure. But fortunately, they just
• 1:10:32
  collected the trash. So he climbs into the dumpster
• 1:10:36
  truck, which could have been a much worse scene than it was.
• 1:10:38
  It's funny because he gets in there, he finds the box right
• 1:10:40
  away and he grabs an extra pair of glasses and then the truck
• 1:10:44
  starts to move. And at first you think maybe
• 1:10:46
  he's going to be compacted, but all it's doing is dumping him
• 1:10:48
  back out. But the way he's trashed, yeah,
• 1:10:51
  the way he's reacting, he's like, no.
• 1:10:53
  And then he just falls on the alley floor.
• 1:10:55
  He didn't want to fall. Again, he just had a rough one.
• 1:10:59
  Not again. Through his trauma, he speaks
• 1:11:05
  so. He pulls himself back together.
• 1:11:07
  He stands up and he goes to walk back out.
• 1:11:09
  And then what do you know if Frank's standing there and
• 1:11:11
  Frank's like, here's one week. 'S pay.
• 1:11:13
  This is the best I could do because Frank's a good guy.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, he's also a good guy. Generally wants to hollow people
• 1:11:17
  out. And he's like, you know, maybe
• 1:11:18
  go get out of here, go someplace else, make this work for now.
• 1:11:23
  And then Rowdy Roddy Piper chooses violence.
• 1:11:26
  And I mean that in the most literal sense.
• 1:11:28
  Well, he's like here. Man, like he tries to explain to
• 1:11:31
  him like he's been doing, he's like, you need to put these
• 1:11:33
  glasses on. You need to see it like things
• 1:11:35
  are weird with these glasses on. He does not want to wear those
• 1:11:39
  glasses, but he's tired of people not seeing what he's
• 1:11:42
  seeing. So he you know what would have
• 1:11:43
  been fun? Is in school, you know where
• 1:11:46
  they do like the drunk driving thing to like make you
• 1:11:49
  understand how bad it is to drive drug.
• 1:11:52
  If like, somebody denied putting on the glasses and the
• 1:11:56
  instructor just starts fucking punching them, you got to fight
• 1:11:59
  them, yeah? Oh man, we're going to.
• 1:12:01
  Get a German suplex going here. That'd.
• 1:12:06
  Be a rough man. Yeah, yeah, it's also those
• 1:12:10
  drunk. Driving goggles.
• 1:12:12
  They distort things. It's not.
• 1:12:14
  To be fair, I don't think I've ever driven drunk.
• 1:12:17
  I've never driven. Drunk either, but I've also I've
• 1:12:20
  been drunk and that's not what it's like.
• 1:12:22
  It's like when you play Grand Theft Auto and.
• 1:12:24
  Yeah, drive drunk, I guess. Just like the car swerves and
• 1:12:27
  something like that's not what it does.
• 1:12:29
  I will say the. Best like distracted driving
• 1:12:32
  demonstration we ever had was in our defensive driving class and
• 1:12:35
  we had to do like the dial the phone because it was supposed to
• 1:12:38
  be like propped up on a like a hands free type thing in the
• 1:12:41
  phone. Anyway.
• 1:12:43
  Do you not remember this where it was like the little arcade
• 1:12:45
  driving thing? Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:12:47
  Yeah. And it was like, you have to.
• 1:12:48
  Type in this number while also driving out of the parking lot.
• 1:12:51
  I don't remember that part. Oh, I remember it.
• 1:12:53
  And I was like trying to type it and drive.
• 1:12:55
  And it was. That was the most realistic
• 1:12:57
  experience I've ever had for like a distracted or impaired
• 1:13:01
  driving scenario. But those goggles?
• 1:13:04
  No, no. So.
• 1:13:07
  We had this big 5 minute 22nd fight scene between the two of
• 1:13:11
  them. It's fucking amazing, yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Like when? You think it's about the end.
• 1:13:15
  It keeps going, it just refuses to stop and it ends ultimately
• 1:13:21
  with them both on the ground. Not a winning.
• 1:13:24
  Taking Frank and then forcing the glasses on him.
• 1:13:26
  He's like, look at this shit. And then he actually sees what
• 1:13:30
  he's talking about. The thing is watching.
• 1:13:31
  This fight last night, I just kept laughing because it just
• 1:13:35
  made me think of our cats fighting because like we'd think
• 1:13:38
  that they would be done and then all of a sudden they go at it
• 1:13:40
  again and we're like, can you guys just not?
• 1:13:43
  It's like. That but these guys are quieter
• 1:13:46
  when they fought the. Cats yell.
• 1:13:49
  Yeah. The cats are like, oh.
• 1:13:50
  My God, are one of you dead? Time out, time out.
• 1:13:55
  That's what they're saying, yeah.
• 1:13:56
  All right, so. The fights.
• 1:13:57
  Wrapped up, they're both on board.
• 1:13:59
  They both walk out with a pair of sunglasses, and they're both
• 1:14:02
  skeptical. Yeah, so they check into a.
• 1:14:04
  Hotel together and he warns Frank about wearing the glasses
• 1:14:09
  too because Frank's just woken up, you know, and he's going
• 1:14:11
  through the same kind of thing where he's like looking at
• 1:14:13
  everything and he's like hey, you're going to get a bad
• 1:14:15
  hangover if you keep those on TI you're going to want to take
• 1:14:18
  them off so we get a little. Bit of back story on Nada here.
• 1:14:21
  He actually opens up to Frank. He was a runaway at 13 years old
• 1:14:25
  because his father was fucking. Abusive.
• 1:14:27
  His dad turned me in. Suddenly he actually held a
• 1:14:30
  knife to AI doubt his dad. Turned me and I bet his dad was
• 1:14:33
  always mean and it just took him growing up a little bit to
• 1:14:36
  understand it. It could be, yeah.
• 1:14:39
  I I. Strongly suspect that so.
• 1:14:43
  Yeah, he had a bad life, and he's just been a homeless man
• 1:14:47
  ever since he was thirteen years old.
• 1:14:49
  He's just been roaming around the entire time.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah. And you know, that's all we we
• 1:14:55
  just get a little perspective on the character.
• 1:14:57
  It cuts to the next day. Frank's walking around and he's
• 1:15:00
  getting. Yeah, he's.
• 1:15:01
  Getting like groceries or something.
• 1:15:03
  And he's coming back to the hotel and Gilbert's there and he
• 1:15:05
  sees Frank with the glasses and he's like, hey, right of a
• 1:15:08
  meeting, Don't let anybody follow you.
• 1:15:14
  But you know, just just come to this meeting.
• 1:15:15
  It's fine. So at the meeting that night,
• 1:15:18
  they get they're wearing their glasses when they get in there
• 1:15:20
  and like they're seeing people that they recognize from the
• 1:15:23
  encampment and everything. And they're like, here, put
• 1:15:26
  these in. And you know what?
• 1:15:28
  I should have put this as my absurd, honestly, put in the
• 1:15:31
  fucking contact. I can't do it without a mirror.
• 1:15:34
  And I don't even watch myself when I'm doing it, but like I
• 1:15:37
  still, there's still like an element of meeting to see where
• 1:15:39
  you're like, I don't know. I don't do that shit because I
• 1:15:43
  refuse to. It's because you need 2.
• 1:15:45
  Eyes to have depth perception is part of it so just like seeing
• 1:15:49
  your finger come towards your eye you still don't get like
• 1:15:52
  perfect and you want to do it one eye it's it just doesn't
• 1:15:55
  really work without mirrors and I know there are people out
• 1:15:58
  there that can do it but these two people that we have no
• 1:16:01
  indication to believe that they've ever worn glasses or
• 1:16:04
  contacts are just shoving little flimsy plastic lenses into their
• 1:16:09
  eye holes are just comfortable with this.
• 1:16:11
  Also, they're not washing their hands.
• 1:16:13
  Jesse, hold on. Video game.
• 1:16:18
  Video game. Yeah, that's like one of those
• 1:16:20
  that you're like gently, like with the little joystick, like
• 1:16:23
  press X to contact. Yes.
• 1:16:25
  Yeah, that's what they did there.
• 1:16:26
  They. Pressed X Yes I.
• 1:16:28
  Need to ground this a little. Bit here for you because you're
• 1:16:30
  getting very caught up in that right there.
• 1:16:32
  Thank you. I think it doesn't.
• 1:16:33
  Help that I just recently had my like annual eye appointment so
• 1:16:37
  it's like it's OK. All right, so fresh wound and.
• 1:16:41
  The. Thing is, they they they have
• 1:16:42
  less interference with the yeah, So it doesn't.
• 1:16:45
  Give them like the same kind of like hangover type situation.
• 1:16:49
  So they are, they're talking about how they're basically just
• 1:16:56
  a source of fuel. Like they're resources for the
• 1:16:58
  aliens. The aliens are on this planet.
• 1:17:01
  They're treating them as like a third world to suck the
• 1:17:04
  resources dry. And then the human cops are
• 1:17:07
  telling. Groups that they are commies, so
• 1:17:10
  that's how they're rationalizing, attacking them
• 1:17:13
  all the time. Yeah, Gilbert.
• 1:17:14
  Says that they need to keep up their appearances so that way
• 1:17:17
  the movement can grow. They can't give their hand yet
• 1:17:20
  because they don't have enough numbers to fight them off, but
• 1:17:23
  they need to work on locating where the signal is coming from
• 1:17:26
  and turn it off. Holly then appears and she is
• 1:17:31
  talking to Nada. She's like she's she queries the
• 1:17:34
  radio. Station's name first because you
• 1:17:36
  think that. The radio.
• 1:17:37
  Station. Whichever one she works at.
• 1:17:39
  KRDR. They have this device. At the top of their building
• 1:17:43
  where that may be transmitting the stuff.
• 1:17:44
  And actually they are not. I work there and it's OK.
• 1:17:47
  Yeah. And.
• 1:17:49
  So he goes over to talk to her and then they're like
• 1:17:51
  reconciliation is interrupted by explosions and gunfire.
• 1:17:56
  The police are raiding this underground meeting area and it
• 1:18:00
  should have been a. Giveaway that it was.
• 1:18:02
  Her when she and like. Also, because we didn't mention
• 1:18:05
  this, but when after she, like, knocked him out the window and
• 1:18:09
  down a fucking mountain, she called the cops and she was
• 1:18:11
  like, no, this is Holly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm
• 1:18:15
  pretty sure. Like, she was way too cash.
• 1:18:18
  You're right. Yeah.
• 1:18:19
  You're right, there are all the signs were there.
• 1:18:21
  The signs were there and we're. Just like we're just mesmerized
• 1:18:24
  by her strong voice and pretty eyes, beautiful eyes, so.
• 1:18:29
  They are and it's like full on fight here.
• 1:18:31
  There's Gilbert shot. Yeah, so the.
• 1:18:35
  Nada and Frank are making their way through the alley.
• 1:18:37
  Frank takes one of the. Watches.
• 1:18:39
  Yeah, cuz one of the rebels was like working on understanding
• 1:18:43
  the mechanisms in the watch that how they communicate and how
• 1:18:46
  they do the teleportation. Yes, I was gonna say telekinesis
• 1:18:52
  and I knew that wasn't correct. So they're in an alley and it
• 1:18:56
  seems like we're in the all this lost moment.
• 1:18:59
  And then he like hits a button and it's like portal will be
• 1:19:02
  disappearing in 10 seconds. No, he, he causes.
• 1:19:06
  The watch to malfunction yes and this is a fell safe.
• 1:19:09
  So it's like all right here's a temporary portal for like a hole
• 1:19:12
  for you to jump through This will go away in 10 seconds.
• 1:19:15
  So this is your chance which made me think if they were ever
• 1:19:19
  out and their technology was flawed and just out in public
• 1:19:23
  and their one of their watch just like randomly malfunction,
• 1:19:26
  all of a sudden the portal is going to open up and people are
• 1:19:28
  going to have questions. Would.
• 1:19:33
  You jump into a. Portal, if you saw that, yes.
• 1:19:37
  I feel like I. Would too and I.
• 1:19:38
  Feel like that's part of why I'm not built to survive or.
• 1:19:43
  Maybe why I am? Built to survive, Exactly.
• 1:19:45
  You don't know until you're tested in the elements
• 1:19:48
  themselves, right? That was.
• 1:19:49
  Doing that was the key to Yeah, that's that's what.
• 1:19:52
  Saved them, yeah. So they get in there and when
• 1:19:54
  they get they're like underground and they overhear
• 1:19:58
  some of the aliens talking about how they.
• 1:20:01
  You know, the reports are coming in that they killed the entire
• 1:20:04
  rebel base and they celebrate. And this mirrors the, like
• 1:20:07
  little touch football winning celebration from the TV at the
• 1:20:12
  beginning where they like they're like, yeah, we rule and
• 1:20:15
  they like high five and mirrors that.
• 1:20:17
  Yeah. And I went like, I was like, oh,
• 1:20:19
  that's like the beginning. And you're like, what?
• 1:20:20
  And I was like, we'll just rewatch it.
• 1:20:23
  OK. Wow.
• 1:20:23
  OK. Yes, yeah.
• 1:20:25
  And I think that I thought that was like a real funny.
• 1:20:27
  Like it wasn't super over, but it was there.
• 1:20:30
  I never noticed that. Yeah, That's interesting.
• 1:20:33
  That's really cool. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:20:35
  Because I was just like, why are they being so over at the top?
• 1:20:37
  And then I remembered the like, college Bros from the beginning
• 1:20:40
  of the TV high fiving. And I was like, oh, they're
• 1:20:42
  doing that thing. Could have been them.
• 1:20:45
  Maybe. Now we have to really rewatch
• 1:20:48
  it, yeah. So yeah, they're making their
• 1:20:50
  way through. The place and then they stumble
• 1:20:52
  upon this reception that's going on.
• 1:20:55
  It is a place where people have brought their human counterparts
• 1:20:59
  that are there helping with the movement.
• 1:21:01
  It's the RNC. It's basically the RNC.
• 1:21:04
  Yeah, like it's just like it's the aliens mixed with humans
• 1:21:09
  that they have recruited. Yeah.
• 1:21:11
  And. It's, I thought it was really
• 1:21:13
  interesting. He's like, all right, so we've
• 1:21:16
  done the numbers. By 2025 we will be under control
• 1:21:20
  fully. This was.
• 1:21:22
  OK, I talked earlier about how like alarming it was to hear
• 1:21:26
  that tagline in an election year, but then hearing the 2025
• 1:21:31
  with the Project 2025 stuff being like a very real looming
• 1:21:35
  threat right now, That's so fucking crazy.
• 1:21:37
  That that ended up lining up like that if I got a mysterious
• 1:21:40
  period. Of sunglasses.
• 1:21:41
  And I looked at the screen and I saw some of these people.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah, with purple faces. I wouldn't be shocked.
• 1:21:49
  I would not be. Wouldn't be.
• 1:21:50
  Shocked. They're basically out there in
• 1:21:52
  the open at this point and they're not even.
• 1:21:54
  Trying to hide it, they are not. So while they're there, the guy,
• 1:21:59
  the homeless man from the encampment before that was all
• 1:22:02
  about fuck this TV program. Remember they got the the.
• 1:22:05
  Hillbilly one. Yeah, he's, he's got his.
• 1:22:07
  Hair slicked back. And he's one of them.
• 1:22:08
  He's like, hey, I didn't know you guys were recruited too.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah. Have you all seen this place?
• 1:22:13
  I can give you a tour real quick.
• 1:22:14
  And she is one of those. New money people so excited to
• 1:22:18
  show off his wealth and I think this is also cuz it's so well
• 1:22:22
  done because he's like a character that we know and
• 1:22:25
  recognize from before yeah. So he's an easy in for these
• 1:22:29
  two. But also, it's such a realistic,
• 1:22:31
  like, prototype of somebody who is not afraid to, once they get
• 1:22:36
  theirs, like, shove it down the people, you know, show off.
• 1:22:39
  Yeah. Like be happy about it and not
• 1:22:42
  be modest whatsoever. Yes, Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  So. He's just taking.
• 1:22:45
  Them around the place and then they end up making their way to
• 1:22:49
  the radio station and they're like hey do you think that you
• 1:22:51
  can get us in there and maybe get us a closer look at it and
• 1:22:55
  he's like well I. Know a few people and so he
• 1:22:58
  starts to ask the guards, and then Keith and Roddy pull out
• 1:23:02
  the guns and start blasting Yeah.
• 1:23:03
  And they're like, do you have your?
• 1:23:04
  ID badges like we got them right here and they just blast them.
• 1:23:08
  Yeah. So I don't think did they kill
• 1:23:11
  that guy? I don't remember.
• 1:23:13
  No, he teleports. I think he, yeah, he can't.
• 1:23:16
  I didn't really write what happens to him because it
• 1:23:18
  ultimately it doesn't matter. He's on the.
• 1:23:21
  Well, ultimately it's ambiguous because we don't know if the
• 1:23:25
  aliens win or lose at the end of this.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah, but they. He's just.
• 1:23:30
  Yeah, he's. Saying like the aliens own it
• 1:23:32
  all already, this is just business.
• 1:23:34
  I want you guys to understand it's just business.
• 1:23:36
  Yeah, which? There's a.
• 1:23:38
  Part of me that kind of almost sympathizes that, like because
• 1:23:42
  you go from being in a place where you were literally
• 1:23:44
  sleeping in a park in a tin shack to being with the
• 1:23:50
  wealthiest of the elites. I think he was a.
• 1:23:52
  Plant, I don't think, I don't think that he was recruited
• 1:23:57
  after the fact. I think that he was a plant
• 1:23:59
  there. That's why he was saying oh fuck
• 1:24:01
  this shit. I think he was trying to like,
• 1:24:04
  sow doubt in that message, I think.
• 1:24:06
  Honestly I think he was just a person that didn't believe in
• 1:24:09
  that like conspiracy theory stuff and it was easier for him
• 1:24:13
  to be recruited that way. Well, they already.
• 1:24:16
  Were aware of the situation because they had choppers, yeah,
• 1:24:19
  so I think. He was.
• 1:24:20
  There get gathering Intel. I think he could be.
• 1:24:24
  Either way, it could be either way like I.
• 1:24:25
  Said it's ambiguous. We don't know for sure, so.
• 1:24:29
  They blast their way through the studio.
• 1:24:31
  And when I say blast their way through the studio, I mean
• 1:24:33
  they're like shooting guns and people and cameras and computers
• 1:24:37
  and TV's. It's a video.
• 1:24:39
  Game. Yes, it is.
• 1:24:40
  Very much, yeah. Like we are no longer doing my
• 1:24:44
  stealth mission. This is get through and survive.
• 1:24:47
  Get to the next save point. Yeah.
• 1:24:50
  Any. Anybody.
• 1:24:50
  Shooting at you cannot hear you. This is resident.
• 1:24:53
  Evil 4 when you are in the barn with the zombie horde coming at
• 1:24:57
  you, except the. Zombies are shooting at you.
• 1:25:00
  Except, well. The zombies don't need to shoot
• 1:25:02
  at you in Resident Evil 4. They're plenty of deadly on
• 1:25:05
  their own, I know, but in this case, they're.
• 1:25:07
  Shooting at Yeah, yeah. And they make their way.
• 1:25:11
  They they find Holly and you have Keith David.
• 1:25:14
  Instead of Ashley with you. Oh yeah, you gotta.
• 1:25:18
  Well, they pick up their Ashley here, they get Holly.
• 1:25:20
  Yeah, Holly is like. Get up to the roof, that's where
• 1:25:23
  the signals coming from. And then Nada climbs up and then
• 1:25:27
  Holly turns around and shoots Frank.
• 1:25:30
  Fuck you. Holly.
• 1:25:31
  That's the last. That's how he goes.
• 1:25:33
  It feels so anticlimactic that he dies like that.
• 1:25:36
  It sucks. He deserved better.
• 1:25:38
  He. Did so.
• 1:25:39
  Nada makes it up to the top and he makes it to the antenna.
• 1:25:42
  He's like all right, Frank, Holly, are you guys back there?
• 1:25:45
  Are you guys good? And Holly goes I.
• 1:25:47
  AM And he goes, what happened to Frank?
• 1:25:48
  And she's like, I shot him. And then everything happens so
• 1:25:52
  quickly from this point, but basically he was like, Oh no,
• 1:25:55
  you're with them. And then he tries to shoot at
• 1:25:57
  the signal and she shoots at him.
• 1:25:59
  And So what she. Instructs him to put his gun
• 1:26:04
  down and he takes his gun and throws it down and then she
• 1:26:07
  thinks that she has them dead to rights but she doesn't know that
• 1:26:10
  he has a tiny gun hidden up his sleeve so he which she should
• 1:26:13
  know he had. Two guns the first time she met
• 1:26:15
  him. Yeah, well, no, he has three.
• 1:26:17
  Yeah, so he takes that gun, gets it out real quick, shoots her,
• 1:26:21
  she's dead, turns around real quick, blast the satellite.
• 1:26:24
  So the satellite's going down, and there's the people in the
• 1:26:26
  chopper. Yeah, they surrounded him.
• 1:26:29
  And he's dead now and he's dead. But like the signals gone out.
• 1:26:33
  So then we see all around town, all of a sudden everybody's
• 1:26:36
  seeing the same thing that Roddy was singing with the glasses on.
• 1:26:40
  So they're seeing the aliens. They're seeing like the TV show.
• 1:26:43
  Like we hear people off camera going, oh, man, you guys look
• 1:26:46
  terrible to the newscasters that were on before, which I love to
• 1:26:50
  those newscasters, by the way, the like little clips of them on
• 1:26:53
  TV. And they're like, is this a 30
• 1:26:54
  second or two-minute break? Yeah.
• 1:26:56
  Like, it's really funny. Like everybody's.
• 1:26:57
  Just like evacuating, running, you get people out in the bars
• 1:27:00
  that are just watching TV and people are just like, what the
• 1:27:03
  fuck is happening? Yeah, there's somebody that's.
• 1:27:05
  Like having sex with an alien and she's and he goes what's the
• 1:27:08
  matter baby? What's wrong, baby?
• 1:27:11
  And he looks. So gross and like this one is
• 1:27:14
  one of the worst aliens because they also had to body paint him
• 1:27:17
  too and I was just like he was a stunt guy.
• 1:27:22
  He was a stunt. Coordinator.
• 1:27:23
  Well, good for him. But it was just that was a very
• 1:27:26
  alarming moment. He played most of them.
• 1:27:28
  Actually, good for him, or a lot of them at least.
• 1:27:31
  Yeah. But yeah, that's that's how
• 1:27:33
  this. Ends.
• 1:27:33
  We don't know if the aliens recuperate, we don't know if
• 1:27:36
  people take over. Like we don't know what happens
• 1:27:38
  from here. Yep, it just ends it.
• 1:27:40
  Just ends. I kind of like that though.
• 1:27:43
  I do kind. Of like it like I said, I want
• 1:27:45
  like. OK, I don't know if I want.
• 1:27:51
  It to be like more bleak or more ambiguous.
• 1:27:53
  I kind of want like maybe to see that aliens have like something
• 1:27:57
  to come back from with it. So you're like, what will happen
• 1:28:00
  now? You know what I mean?
• 1:28:02
  I like. I like the idea of like.
• 1:28:03
  What's going to happen next? And I like the idea that it
• 1:28:06
  ended in such an absurd tone. Yeah, it's just.
• 1:28:10
  Being like a guy and. A girl having sex and they're
• 1:28:12
  like, hey, what's wrong baby? And it's just like, cut the
• 1:28:14
  black. This is very much.
• 1:28:16
  Like your love of perfectly cut screens.
• 1:28:19
  Kind of yeah, cuz it's. Just like it's.
• 1:28:21
  So abrupt you cut it off at the. Peak of the chaos.
• 1:28:25
  Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of interesting
• 1:28:27
  to do like that. All right, so you change your
• 1:28:31
  rating any. I'm gonna bump it up to 9.
• 1:28:33
  OK, cuz that feels more appropriate.
• 1:28:36
  Winky Minor 9. 25 all right. So 9.125 is our final average,
• 1:28:44
  all right, so. Talia last.
• 1:28:46
  Night, she was oh, hold on, do we have any changes?
• 1:28:50
  I just, you know, I'd. Like to like I was saying about
• 1:28:53
  the ending, like maybe just like a minute longer just to see
• 1:28:59
  maybe if there's some other groups with plan BS, maybe even
• 1:29:02
  like the rebel group has like another survivor somewhere.
• 1:29:05
  OK, you. Know that way they're still.
• 1:29:08
  Like, oh, this is like going to keep going.
• 1:29:12
  OK, so. You want to know.
• 1:29:14
  You want to have some indication of what I want to know.
• 1:29:19
  Yeah. I want to know if people had
• 1:29:21
  backup plans with all of this. You know what I mean?
• 1:29:23
  Like I want to know like is it just?
• 1:29:26
  Going to be. Chaos are they going to like try
• 1:29:28
  and re ring control you know what I mean I gotcha yeah and
• 1:29:31
  I'm. Fine with it being done.
• 1:29:32
  In an ambiguous way. It just, it cuts off so abruptly
• 1:29:35
  and I'm just like, oh, I need a little bit more.
• 1:29:37
  I can get that. Yeah.
• 1:29:38
  OK. So OK.
• 1:29:39
  What the time you think of this So she.
• 1:29:41
  Was just She was having so much fun.
• 1:29:44
  She was squeaking around, she was showing off her belly, she
• 1:29:48
  was whining at you a lot. She wanted all kinds of
• 1:29:51
  attention with it. She did.
• 1:29:53
  Eventually she got a. Little bit sleepy, but it wasn't
• 1:29:55
  until very close to the end where she was like, well, he's
• 1:29:59
  paired. Up with.
• 1:30:00
  With Keith David now, Super, he's OK, Yeah.
• 1:30:03
  So I think Talia's going to give this.
• 1:30:05
  Honestly, I think she's going to give it a ton out of tanks.
• 1:30:07
  There were no alien dogs. There were no alien.
• 1:30:10
  Dogs. Wow, there's not a single dog in
• 1:30:13
  this movie. Because the dogs.
• 1:30:15
  Are all good. Yeah, the dogs are OK.
• 1:30:18
  I wonder if there were any alien dogs though.
• 1:30:20
  Like if like do you think other species were maybe do you think
• 1:30:23
  like there was like influence? I.
• 1:30:25
  Would have loved. It if at one point he looked at
• 1:30:27
  a dog on the street and they put on the glasses and it's one of
• 1:30:30
  the aliens, just like on all fours.
• 1:30:33
  That would have been amazing are.
• 1:30:36
  You kidding me? We were.
• 1:30:36
  Denied that. OK, who is?
• 1:30:40
  Zoe's ultimate warrior. Oh, it's got to be rowdy, rowdy.
• 1:30:46
  Right. Like it's got to be not.
• 1:30:48
  It's got to be that because Zoe. Was a homeless cat that fended
• 1:30:51
  for herself and she believed in the system.
• 1:30:53
  She did, until she found out that the system is not what it
• 1:30:58
  seems. But.
• 1:31:00
  If she may be frank, because every morning she's violently
• 1:31:04
  angry that we haven't fed her the second she wants it, that's
• 1:31:08
  true. That's true.
• 1:31:12
  Yeah. Frank.
• 1:31:13
  She's Frank. She's Frank.
• 1:31:15
  Yeah, she's. Frank.
• 1:31:18
  It's a close call though. I, I can see, I can see the
• 1:31:21
  merits in both of those from her.
• 1:31:24
  I think you make. A strong argument there with
• 1:31:25
  that final bit right there. Yeah, like.
• 1:31:27
  She's she's angry at the system, she fought it, she's putting in
• 1:31:31
  her dues and it's still not paying off the way she needs it
• 1:31:33
  to. She.
• 1:31:35
  Will. Bust one of our fancy cars If we
• 1:31:39
  shut down another food time. She's like, are you kidding?
• 1:31:43
  Me. Yeah, if we reduce her food.
• 1:31:44
  Portions. Yeah, we got 12.
• 1:31:46
  Minutes, in fact, before she starts getting really angry.
• 1:31:49
  So OK. All right.
• 1:31:52
  Do we? Oh, wait, no.
• 1:31:54
  Who did you relate to? I guess.
• 1:32:02
  I probably relate to as I probably relate to God.
• 1:32:10
  I feel like a combination between not and Frank, OK?
• 1:32:14
  Like kind of wanting to fight the system a little bit and also
• 1:32:18
  being optimistic that if I work hard enough, it'll work out.
• 1:32:21
  Yeah, I can. Understand that too.
• 1:32:25
  It's tough because there's not a lot of characters.
• 1:32:30
  I guess if I had to relate. To one of them I'd relate to
• 1:32:32
  nada. Yeah, I.
• 1:32:37
  I don't know, there's just a quality.
• 1:32:38
  About him, I feel like they kind of made him a blank slate in
• 1:32:40
  ways to make him a little bit more relatable.
• 1:32:44
  Yeah, they. Do.
• 1:32:46
  He's a bit of a Gary. Stew, not necessarily a.
• 1:32:50
  Gary Stew because he's got his flaws.
• 1:32:54
  I said we had 12. Minutes, Zoe.
• 1:32:58
  It's been 2. I.
• 1:33:03
  I I think the flannels and the the hair edges out that pushes
• 1:33:08
  you over the edge. I did that photo.
• 1:33:10
  Where I post like yeah, so I'll just, I'll make it nada, OK.
• 1:33:16
  Dream sequel. Oh man, God.
• 1:33:19
  What would we do for a sequel for this?
• 1:33:24
  Well, you can't have any of those.
• 1:33:25
  You can maybe make one of them survive.
• 1:33:27
  You can make know how to survive.
• 1:33:29
  Frank unfortunately got headshot unless she's a terrible shot,
• 1:33:33
  and it just kind of went through a brain part that didn't really
• 1:33:37
  have much importance, neuroplasticity.
• 1:33:40
  Baby, you can maybe. Survive.
• 1:33:42
  You can make both of them survive if you want.
• 1:33:44
  Both of them survive. OK, because that's what I want.
• 1:33:48
  This is a dream sequel. It's not a reality sequel.
• 1:33:54
  Maybe one of the? Aliens is like.
• 1:33:58
  They. Have technology that can save
• 1:34:02
  them and they're tired of the system too, and they want rebel.
• 1:34:06
  Inside of the. Aliens.
• 1:34:07
  Yeah, they're like. They're they were born in it,
• 1:34:10
  but they don't agree with it. And they found, they found a
• 1:34:14
  moment where they can strike and help turn the tides.
• 1:34:18
  So they take Frank and nada and they nurse him back to health.
• 1:34:23
  I like it. And they?
• 1:34:25
  Have their own rogue group they had.
• 1:34:27
  They've re gathered the rebellion and they've made it
• 1:34:31
  stronger. OK yeah.
• 1:34:34
  And then we can tie it. Into modern times because they
• 1:34:36
  talk about like the stay asleep thing.
• 1:34:38
  We can tie it into the whole like woke liberal thing.
• 1:34:41
  Oh yeah. And.
• 1:34:43
  We get to see an alien on on floors acting as a dog.
• 1:34:47
  You gotta include that too, yeah?
• 1:34:48
  That's gotta be in there. I won't have any other.
• 1:34:52
  No, absolutely not. All right.
• 1:34:55
  So time for reviews, tagline, Time for tagline.
• 1:35:01
  I've got one. You do OK.
• 1:35:04
  I'm here to spank. Tattlers and kiss Mamas and
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  Mamas don't. Like no.
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  Tattletales, I'm here to spank. Tattlers and kiss Mamas and Mama
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  don't like tattletales. You said that I wrote it.
• 1:35:17
  Down I wanted to save it oh man, thank you for.
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  Writing that. OK, we'll make that the tackling
• 1:35:22
  then. OK.
• 1:35:26
  Now it's time for reviews. Yeah, OK, all.
• 1:35:29
  Right, I have an IMDb review. OK, let's see that is for.
• 1:35:38
  I've got a lot of things. Here.
• 1:35:40
  OK, here we go. So it's one out of 10.
• 1:35:43
  On IMDb it was reviewed back in December of 2019.
• 1:35:48
  OK and the title is maybe all the fans should put on the
• 1:35:51
  glasses first. So interesting.
• 1:35:55
  Has anyone ever noticed that the worst a movie is the more ardent
• 1:35:59
  of cult following? They Live is not a good movie.
• 1:36:01
  Half a movie is the message, the other half is the movie itself.
• 1:36:05
  Just because it has a topical message doesn't make the movie
• 1:36:08
  well executed. Most Spike Lee joints have an
• 1:36:11
  urgent message. That does not mean most Spike
• 1:36:15
  Lee movies are good. They live as literally just
• 1:36:17
  Invasion of the Body Snatchers parentheses.
• 1:36:20
  Desertly aliens look like us and blend in with society to
• 1:36:24
  propagate conformity. Only instead of an allegory for
• 1:36:28
  commies, this time it's an allegory for Reaganites.
• 1:36:31
  This is the like the edgiest movie ever when you're 13.
• 1:36:37
  A cheesy Ali fight that manages to be boring with its bad WWE
• 1:36:41
  theatrics and seemingly goes on forever and refuses the in corny
• 1:36:45
  one liners and sound like they were said by a middle schooler
• 1:36:48
  that the more you think about it.
• 1:36:51
  And of course our newly I really really can't stand the phrase
• 1:36:54
  woke heroes rally to take down the man man.
• 1:36:59
  Also when they teleport to Alien HQ I'm really confused about the
• 1:37:03
  layout. It seems like they're in a
• 1:37:04
  station overlooking earth with aliens being teleported down
• 1:37:07
  there. But when they reach the roof and
• 1:37:09
  of course have this typical cliche rooftop standoff and a
• 1:37:12
  helicopter hovers up, they're clearly on Earth to all fanboys
• 1:37:17
  before smugly telling others to put on the sweet Roddy Piper's
• 1:37:21
  shades. Take off this nostalgic glasses
• 1:37:23
  first. Talia does not like this review.
• 1:37:25
  No, she disagrees. How dare a movie be a movie and
• 1:37:31
  also have a message? Look, I get it.
• 1:37:35
  I get they're like, you know, you don't like some of the ham
• 1:37:40
  facedness of some of the Purge movies.
• 1:37:42
  You still generally enjoy the Purge movies, but you know that
• 1:37:45
  is a criticism you have. I hate messages and.
• 1:37:48
  I suppose you could see. That with this, because it's not
• 1:37:50
  like it's not subtle it it just introduced you to it in a way
• 1:37:56
  that you were much more OK with it.
• 1:37:58
  I wouldn't 1000. Percent understand where they're
• 1:38:00
  coming from with that yes because whenever something beats
• 1:38:03
  you over the head like that it drives me crazy too but I
• 1:38:07
  already said I like the way that they handled it because they
• 1:38:09
  took that and then they made it absurd but also like.
• 1:38:13
  The thing about like. There are only.
• 1:38:18
  So when it comes down to the basics, basics of storytelling,
• 1:38:22
  there are only so many stories in the world, and everything's a
• 1:38:25
  variation on that theme. So calling this a rip off of
• 1:38:28
  Invasion of the Body Snatchers feels like you don't really
• 1:38:31
  understand storytelling at its core, you know what I mean?
• 1:38:34
  Like, yeah, I mean, I get it. Like you can call it the
• 1:38:36
  influence, but I don't know. I wouldn't, but I I can't really
• 1:38:40
  speak. I've not seen that movie so I
• 1:38:42
  don't know how close this is also different.
• 1:38:44
  Too, Because they're not like snatching the bodies.
• 1:38:47
  They're actually like recruiting full people.
• 1:38:49
  They're not taking them over. They're luring them in.
• 1:38:52
  And it's different. Yeah, it's.
• 1:38:54
  It's different if that's the premise, so I.
• 1:38:58
  I don't know. I get it.
• 1:38:59
  I like, I get it. I get it.
• 1:39:02
  And I appreciate that they weren't just mad because it
• 1:39:05
  feels like a woke movie. Like I like that they were like,
• 1:39:08
  you know, that's not even the purpose of that.
• 1:39:10
  Like I can get how somebody doesn't like it.
• 1:39:12
  I don't agree, you know, I, I think.
• 1:39:17
  It's fantastic and I thought that they did a great job
• 1:39:19
  getting the message without it being so obnoxious.
• 1:39:23
  But, you know, plenty of people probably hear the message in the
• 1:39:28
  Purge and be like, fuck yeah, I mean.
• 1:39:31
  And that's where we have a difference in it too.
• 1:39:33
  Cuz I I think it's over in a way that it needs to be for
• 1:39:39
  audiences, I don't think. When you ground a.
• 1:39:43
  Movie like the. Purge.
• 1:39:44
  And I know it gets bizarre and absurd, but when you do that,
• 1:39:48
  and it's very clear when you watch the movie that that's
• 1:39:51
  what's happening, you don't have to repeat the message over and
• 1:39:54
  over again. But with this right here, when
• 1:39:57
  you involve aliens and shit in the mix, you might need to
• 1:40:00
  outwardly say it a few times to get that cross.
• 1:40:05
  So point to be, I understand where they're coming from with
• 1:40:09
  us. Yeah, I do.
• 1:40:12
  OK, listener. Reviews OK.
• 1:40:15
  All right. We'll start off over on.
• 1:40:16
  Instagram First up, Cube saves. Weird how deeply ingrained this
• 1:40:22
  movie became in pop culture. It rules, yeah.
• 1:40:26
  It's one of those that like, I didn't realize that I recognized
• 1:40:29
  so many of the references until I watched it.
• 1:40:31
  And I was like, oh shit, that's the thing.
• 1:40:33
  It's crazy during. COVID.
• 1:40:35
  I remember I was working from home one day and there was
• 1:40:38
  somebody above our apartment and I walked outside and they were
• 1:40:41
  doing the like, the message writing with a plane, like with
• 1:40:46
  the smoke and like up in the sky.
• 1:40:48
  It just spread. Obey.
• 1:40:49
  Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
• 1:40:51
  That was really cool. I was.
• 1:40:52
  Like, oh man, that's awesome. Alright, Next up we have Justin
• 1:40:57
  3000 Stewart. He says Roddy Piper and Keith
• 1:41:01
  David have the best fight scene in cinema, or ever in cinema as
• 1:41:06
  fucking lately. Yeah, I.
• 1:41:08
  Fucking love it man. I like it's hard to top that.
• 1:41:12
  It's just it's and. Like I said, it's one of those
• 1:41:14
  things that I look forward to when we watch this movie, and
• 1:41:16
  I'm not like a huge action person, so the fact that like, I
• 1:41:20
  get excited for a fight scene says a lot.
• 1:41:22
  And Travis can attest to that. Because it's like wrestling.
• 1:41:24
  You got in there. I like wrestling.
• 1:41:26
  Yeah, you like whenever it's choreographed, Yes, they.
• 1:41:29
  Understand the importance of. It being choreographed and not
• 1:41:31
  just punch, punch, punch. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:41:33
  It's like a. It's a show, yes.
• 1:41:35
  Yeah, it's. Meant to be entertaining.
• 1:41:37
  All right. And Michael Lee Howard says Big
• 1:41:40
  Lever was a fun movie. Cheesy, adventurous, funny and
• 1:41:43
  about alien invasions. Not every movie can boast a
• 1:41:46
  wrestler as a star and John Carpenter as a director.
• 1:41:48
  Seven nights in. I like that last one.
• 1:41:51
  Not every, like not every movie can do that, man.
• 1:41:54
  It's it's fucking crazy. He that's like, that's the hat
• 1:41:58
  trick. Man, it's a magical pairing.
• 1:42:00
  For sure, yeah, He he said. Roddy John Carpenter says that
• 1:42:07
  he believes Roddy Piper was the beginning of the transition of
• 1:42:13
  wrestlers becoming actors. I can't see that he.
• 1:42:16
  He like started. The whole movement with that, I
• 1:42:19
  can kind of see it too. I don't know.
• 1:42:20
  I'm sure they were like Andre the Giant was a big one, but,
• 1:42:25
  you know, maybe he popularized it.
• 1:42:27
  I don't know. All right, moving over to
• 1:42:30
  Twitter. First up, we have.
• 1:42:33
  Ward Zombie who says true classic?
• 1:42:35
  Have not seen it in a while but I do remember the 80s.
• 1:42:38
  She's the acting, the special effects and the longest fight
• 1:42:41
  scene ever. A great one.
• 1:42:43
  Everyone should see my friend go.
• 1:42:45
  Rewatch it. Yeah, absolutely, if you can.
• 1:42:47
  Yeah. I love how I like.
• 1:42:49
  The fight scene is the main take away here.
• 1:42:51
  Yeah, Aquila. Oh L Aquila boobs.
• 1:42:55
  OK now. Says.
• 1:42:57
  Put it on the glasses. Another Carpenter banger.
• 1:43:02
  Man, this and Big trouble in Little China where in my
• 1:43:05
  childhood VHS rotations. Love this movie.
• 1:43:08
  Man, the South Park episode that paid homage to the fight was
• 1:43:11
  fucking hilarious. To rest in peace Roddy I that
• 1:43:15
  is. Have you.
• 1:43:16
  Do you know what he's talking about?
• 1:43:17
  No, I was nodding about. The rest in peace, Roddy.
• 1:43:20
  It's an episode. Where Jimmy and Timmy get into a
• 1:43:24
  fight. Oh, OK, I.
• 1:43:26
  Knew what you're talking about. Yeah, OK.
• 1:43:28
  He's like triple fight. And they just like, they
• 1:43:30
  actually have, like, the fight play out almost as long as it
• 1:43:33
  does in this movie. Yeah, that's really good.
• 1:43:35
  I love that, too, Doc Farks says.
• 1:43:39
  Why hasn't Keith David and David Keith ever teamed up for a buddy
• 1:43:42
  Whatever movie? And I was yesterday years old
• 1:43:45
  when I were in that. The madcap director of
• 1:43:48
  Eraserhead is named David Keith Lynch.
• 1:43:50
  Imagine a Lynch directed David Keith David blockbuster.
• 1:43:55
  We need grounds. Well, doc, are you?
• 1:43:58
  OK, I love because they always go in places.
• 1:44:03
  I never I don't expect it. I.
• 1:44:04
  Love it. Also that that opening reminded
• 1:44:08
  me of one time I opened up my old man's computer and I was
• 1:44:12
  like looking at his music files and two folders right next to
• 1:44:16
  each other was a Buck Cherry and Chuck Berry.
• 1:44:19
  And I was like, that's amazing. That's.
• 1:44:22
  Funny. OK, David.
• 1:44:25
  David, Keith. Directed by David Keith, he
• 1:44:28
  broke my fucking head with. That man, I already thinking
• 1:44:31
  about that for a. While oh, oh, is it am I hearing
• 1:44:38
  am I hearing that we. Got live.
• 1:44:40
  News coming? In reported Travis coming.
• 1:44:45
  In with a live feed of our Twitter review that we received
• 1:44:50
  very last second from Chad. He just sent this in mid
• 1:44:53
  recording of the episode. All right, so Chad says they
• 1:44:57
  Live is one of those rare perfect films.
• 1:44:59
  Carpenter at the helm, Cundi on camera, a protagonist you can
• 1:45:03
  root for gratuitous Keith David, though there is no such thing as
• 1:45:07
  too much Keith David I. Was literally about to say it
• 1:45:09
  doesn't exist. Kinetic pacing.
• 1:45:12
  A bitchin score and it's A1 percenter horror.
• 1:45:15
  It's like the cinema gods were like yo Chad, here's a movie
• 1:45:19
  specifically made for you and Meg Foster's eyes piercing.
• 1:45:24
  Perfect film. Dude, you fucking nailed it.
• 1:45:26
  I. Agree with everything you said
• 1:45:28
  Chad, and I believe that was my entire list of kids.
• 1:45:31
  It pretty much. Was yeah, other than it being
• 1:45:34
  like. Failure made for Chad, but you
• 1:45:36
  know, it's, it's fine. It is because it's a very Chad.
• 1:45:40
  Movie. Absolutely.
• 1:45:41
  Oh, man. All right, cool.
• 1:45:42
  Well, then that's it for our reviews.
• 1:45:44
  OK for our reviews. Thank, guys.
• 1:45:46
  Thank guys. Thanks, guys.
• 1:45:49
  We appreciate all the input on that.
• 1:45:51
  We're excited. Everybody's excited about this
• 1:45:53
  movie because it's so much fun and we're excited about it.
• 1:45:55
  Yeah. But you know what else we're
• 1:45:56
  excited about? What?
• 1:45:58
  We're going back to Child's Play next.
• 1:46:01
  We're going to military. School, yes.
• 1:46:04
  So Child's Play Three, should you want to rewatch it, it's on
• 1:46:09
  Netflix. Should you want to watch it for
• 1:46:10
  the first time, they just have them on the Netflix.
• 1:46:12
  Yes, you can watch it on Netflix.
• 1:46:14
  You can also rent it from YouTube, Google Play Prime, or
• 1:46:17
  Fandango at home. Travis, I hate to tell you, but
• 1:46:21
  we're about to start getting ads on our Netflix.
• 1:46:25
  Why? Because.
• 1:46:26
  I am on the cheapo plan. They're eliminating that.
• 1:46:30
  And they said. You're getting ads or you're
• 1:46:32
  paying twice as much as you're currently paying.
• 1:46:34
  And I said not with the way this fucking app glitches on our
• 1:46:37
  Roku, it was bad. We might have to unsubscribe.
• 1:46:40
  From them again. Here's the thing.
• 1:46:42
  Though is that we need, we need their Christmas movie selection
• 1:46:46
  only during that time of year. Yeah, I.
• 1:46:49
  Understand. It's also got Trailer Park Boys.
• 1:46:52
  Yeah, yeah. And it's got The Good Place and
• 1:46:55
  Seinfeld. Yeah.
• 1:46:56
  So there's a lot of. Reasons we need to keep it.
• 1:46:58
  It's just we're going to have to deal with ads, which we do on
• 1:46:59
  all the other apps anyway because I just we don't want to
• 1:47:02
  pay premium prices for all those.
• 1:47:04
  So yeah, fuck it. It is what it is.
• 1:47:06
  But we're back to like the cable days again, going back to I
• 1:47:10
  can't wait to see the documentary series detailing the
• 1:47:14
  streaming wars. Yeah, and how they've, the
• 1:47:16
  services have basically cannibalized the whole industry.
• 1:47:20
  OK, OK. So anyway, we're going back to
• 1:47:22
  talking about murderous dolls. Yeah, so.
• 1:47:25
  Be watching that if you can. I'm sure there's plenty of
• 1:47:30
  options out there. We're very excited about it.
• 1:47:32
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• 1:47:35
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  All right. So I think that that's it for
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  OK, OK. Matthew McConaughey.
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  Hey I'm trying to do this off. Off here, that way nobody it's
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  not interrupting you speaking and I'm finding a dead moment
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  here to get this out. And I'm editing so you don't
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  have to worry about. This this is going to be our
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  Hey, everybody. OK.
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