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10-23-26 Hour 1 - Nuggets lose opener to OKC/Getting Bo Nix to RIP IT/Broncos @ Cardinals expectations · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma City will wind it down.
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  Speaker 4: Five seconds left to go here.
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  Speaker 2: And Denver will lose.
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  Speaker 3: There's a horn.
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  Speaker 2: And Oklahoma City to the Thunder.
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  Speaker 3: Entertaining basketball game for three-plus quarters, and then it slipped
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  Speaker 3: away from the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: 96-84 is the final here tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Denver falls to 0-1 on the season.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it turns over, obviously. We did not
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  Speaker 5: space well either for each other. You know, I think
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  Speaker 5: sometimes you have a bad shooting night. The guys try
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  Speaker 5: to do things on their own instead of playing with
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  Speaker 5: the pass, and that leads to mistakes. You know, the
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  Speaker 5: 21 points is not crazy off the 22, but that's
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  Speaker 5: what costs you in this game, especially a game where
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  Speaker 5: both teams, I mean, had a really bad night offensively.
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  Speaker 5: It was going to come down to details, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and the turnovers were a big deal because they shot,
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  Speaker 5: you know, 13 more field goal attempts. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 5: what happens when you don't turn the ball over. So
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  Speaker 5: just a sloppy night from us, especially in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: Just have to clean it up.
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  Speaker 6: It's a Bud Light Football Friday. Bud Light, the official
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  Speaker 6: The Nuggets opened up their season last night against Thunder.
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  Speaker 6: They take the L in OKC. I don't know where
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  Speaker 6: you guys are at this morning, but let me just
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  Speaker 6: give you, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: I'm at my home in my home studio.
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  Speaker 6: On carpet?
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  Speaker 4: On carpet. Today? Today. Today?
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  Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you. Disappointing last night. I actually
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  Speaker 6: came away somewhat encouraged considering the things that I was
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  Speaker 6: concerned about heading into the year. I kind of had
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  Speaker 6: some things that I left. I go, hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Trevin Brazil's a thing.
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  Speaker 6: Like, that guy's a thing. The bench unit actually looked
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  Speaker 6: pretty competent.
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  Speaker 4: The bench outscored the OKC bench 33-31.
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  Speaker 6: You played incredibly difficult defense. Christian Brown... Had Shade Gilgis-Alexander
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  Speaker 6: in a blender. Like, I came away with things last
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  Speaker 6: night where I was like, I'm actually pretty encouraged by that.
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  Speaker 6: The bottom line is, your two best players couldn't shoot. Like,
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  Speaker 6: Jokic and Murray had an off-night shooting. Guess what's not
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  Speaker 6: gonna happen 81 more times? That.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I... where virtually everyone had an off-night shooting.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, but I'm disappointed that you didn't get the win.
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  Speaker 6: It felt like you had some control of that game
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  Speaker 6: and you let it go, especially in the second half.
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  Speaker 6: But the things that I was concerned about, I actually
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  Speaker 6: came away like, hmm, not nearly as bad as I
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  Speaker 6: thought it would be.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're not upset, and I think most Nuggets fans
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  Speaker 4: should feel this way. You're not upset because you believe
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  Speaker 4: that was an aberration by Joker and Jamal on the
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  Speaker 4: same night. And if they play their brand of basketball.
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  Speaker 6: You win.
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  Speaker 4: Then you win that game going away.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: They did not, clearly. They struggled shooting the ball, clearly.
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  Speaker 4: And if they figure out how to shoot the ball
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  Speaker 4: to get through that, they win the game going away.
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  Speaker 2: Is that how you feel most? No, it's not how
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  Speaker 2: I feel at all. How I feel is you held
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  Speaker 2: them down. Shea didn't do Jack's squat. They followed my
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  Speaker 2: recommendation on Shea.
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  Speaker 4: They did. They did.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't, I say he didn't do jack squat.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't get off. He didn't go crazy.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't have a bucket and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So the point is that in those kind of games,
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  Speaker 2: you must win them.
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  Speaker 6: When you play that.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of defense.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, Moshe. It's 81 games left, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Understood. I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's just, I think I know where Moshe's
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  Speaker 4: coming from.
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  Speaker 2: Against OKC, you don't get that many opportunities to hold
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  Speaker 2: them down like that.
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  Speaker 4: They're not going to shoot that poorly again.
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  Speaker 2: That is correct.
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  Speaker 4: SGA's not going to struggle like that again.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You're not either, I think, in the future. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, when you hold them to a situation
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  Speaker 2: like that, I think you have to win that game.
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  Speaker 6: That's fair. That's fair.
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  Speaker 4: The big swing occurred. The Nuggets were up by six
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  Speaker 4: in the third. Christian Brown drives baseline, trying to dunk
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  Speaker 4: it over Chet Holmgren, who goes up with two hands,
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  Speaker 4: blocks the shot, and it ends up going the other
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  Speaker 4: way for an alley-oop to J-Dub. They cut it to two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it was OKC from there.
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  Speaker 6: It just tilted ever since then. A lot of people
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  Speaker 6: calling out, like, Christian has no offense, blah, blah. Guys,
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  Speaker 6: you know what? I think there's some games with his responsibilities.
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  Speaker 6: He was playing so well defensively on Shea, I don't
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  Speaker 6: care about his offense last night. It's not his responsibility
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  Speaker 6: to play 30 points. It's Joker and Jamal.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the problem. I don't disagree with you. The problem
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  Speaker 4: is they're tilting their defense to force him to shoot
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  Speaker 4: the three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you've got to be able to knock a couple down.
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  Speaker 4: to maintain some balance there.
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  Speaker 6: I think all that's fair, but Vic, to make like
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  Speaker 6: a Broncos analogy towards this, I feel like this is
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  Speaker 6: blaming the defense for a loss when the offense should
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  Speaker 6: have done more, and we all know it. Like, if
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  Speaker 6: Joker and Murray play better, you win that game. To me,
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  Speaker 6: it's that simple. Like, Murray was awful last night. He
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  Speaker 6: not only couldn't make a shot, he was turning the
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  Speaker 6: ball over like crazy.
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  Speaker 4: He wouldn't shoot the ball. He was 0 for 1
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  Speaker 4: from the three-point. Last year, Jamal Murray was the team's
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  Speaker 4: best three-point shooter.
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  Speaker 2: He is the.
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  Speaker 4: Franchise leader in threes. He attempted one three last night.
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  Speaker 4: He turned down a couple wide open threes. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you guys noticed that. And he took two
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  Speaker 4: steps in and had one shot blocked. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what he was doing, why he was turning down threes
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  Speaker 4: last night. I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 6: He was turning down shots and then... Jamal does this
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  Speaker 6: sometimes that kind of drives me nuts. He does the
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  Speaker 6: one-hand whip pass to Bagley underneath the hoop that goes
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  Speaker 6: out of bounds. He tries to drive the lane behind
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  Speaker 6: my head pass to the corner that gets knocked into oblivion.
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  Speaker 6: He does that stuff where it just feels, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if it's lazy is not the right word, nonchalant
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  Speaker 6: maybe is the right.
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  Speaker 4: The second half, man, it sort of, first half was brilliant.
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  Speaker 4: I thought first half, their defense was great. Offensive execution.
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  Speaker 4: And then Cam Johnson gets injured. And then all hell
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  Speaker 4: breaks loose because now they have a crack in the armor.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and Cam looked comfy to start that game too.
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  Speaker 4: So there goes the starter. Game one. Game one. They
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  Speaker 4: lose a player to injury. Game one.
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  Speaker 6: What did he go down with?
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  Speaker 4: Sprained ankle. Game one of 82. And after he left
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  Speaker 4: the game, the offense just wasn't the same again. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't have the same swagger. They went from hitting shots
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  Speaker 4: to struggling. The Nuggets scored 36 points in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: You know what that second half reminded me of? The
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota series. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good point. I felt that entire second half,
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  Speaker 2: actually the entire game, the second half, I just felt
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  Speaker 2: frustration boil through my body.
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  Speaker 1: Frustration.
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  Speaker 2: Frustration. Because they've got stuff. They've got players. They've got
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  Speaker 2: a rotation.
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon is a total. By the way, some of
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  Speaker 2: these foul calls, you know what, man? I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: start my own live podcast for Nuggets games. And whenever
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they're getting a bad whistle, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to F-bomb into the microphone repeatedly. Well, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: lose last night because of a bad whistle. No, I know,
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  Speaker 2: but Vic, my point is that it's all frustration. So
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  Speaker 2: every little thing adds up on every other little thing,
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  Speaker 2: and it adds up on every other little thing, and
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  Speaker 2: I just get pissed.
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  Speaker 4: Remember how last year we wondered which Nugget player would
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  Speaker 4: respond to Jaden McDaniels? It is Aaron Gordon that would
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  Speaker 4: have done and had him healthy in that series. Did
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  Speaker 4: you see the shoulder he threw at Hartenstein? Did you
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  Speaker 4: see the ass check he threw at Shea?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: He did a couple little things, just little tidbit things
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  Speaker 4: that sent a message. I love it. I love everything
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  Speaker 4: about him. He played with an edge. And you know what? Frankly,
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  Speaker 4: other players can learn something from him.
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  Speaker 6: Hartstein falling on that is... He.
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  Speaker 2: Stay on your feet, bro. Stay on your feet.
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  Speaker 6: His right knee was the one that hit Gordon, and
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  Speaker 6: then he started holding his left knee when he's on
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  Speaker 6: the ground. I'm like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 6: There's something that needs to be studied with AG, okay?
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  Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon, he entered the league in 2014. Aaron Gordon
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  Speaker 6: was a bad shooter. For years, he was a bad shooter.
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  Speaker 6: How in year 10 did he become a 40% three-point shooter?
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  Speaker 6: Because he worked on it.
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  Speaker 4: Because he went to the gym and worked on it.
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  Speaker 4: He built a gym in his home. He built a
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  Speaker 4: home in his gym.
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  Speaker 2: No, no. He bought a gym and he lives in it.
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  Speaker 4: And built a home around it.
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  Speaker 2: No, he lives in it. He wakes up and he
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  Speaker 2: walks five steps and he can shoot a three.
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  Speaker 6: But there's plenty of players that work on their shot.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how many 10 years into their career
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  Speaker 6: are just like, I'm going to be a knockdown three-point
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  Speaker 6: shooter now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Cam Johnson and Aaron Gordon were the only two
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  Speaker 4: starters last night to shoot the ball with any accuracy.
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon, six of nine. He had three threes. Cam Johnson,
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  Speaker 4: before he left, only attempted three shots, but he's two
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  Speaker 4: of three. He only played 11 minutes. That injury is... See,
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  Speaker 4: here's what happens, though, because they went defense. They brought
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  Speaker 4: Diallo in. So Diallo subs in for Cam Johnson.
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  Speaker 6: Diallo can't shoot.
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  Speaker 4: And now you've got two guys on the court that
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  Speaker 4: they're going to force the ball to, and they have
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  Speaker 4: to be able to knock down their threes.
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  Speaker 6: You know who he reminds me of? Remember back in
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  Speaker 6: the day when the Nuggets had Shaq Harrison for a minute?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he's not that bad.
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  Speaker 6: No, but I'm saying in the sense of you put
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  Speaker 6: him in, you're like, I'm expecting nothing offensively and just
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  Speaker 6: for you to play defense. But it's true. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 6: it is true. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I expect nothing from you offensively. And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: You don't disappoint me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The positives, though, you're right. You started the show, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about the positives.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: AG's a dog. AG is the heart and soul of
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  Speaker 4: this team. They will go as far as AG's health
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  Speaker 4: will allow them to go. That's a positive. Trevin Brazil
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  Speaker 4: is a find. He's a rotational player.
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  Speaker 6: He's a pogo stick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just boing, boing, boing. And he plays hard.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what? He plays with a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of an edge. Love him. Yes. Love Trevin Brazil. Love
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  Speaker 4: everything about him. Those two players alone, watching those two
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  Speaker 4: last night. And number three, the third thing that I
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  Speaker 4: really valued last night is just the team defense. They
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  Speaker 4: followed the script. If I had told you, or if
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  Speaker 4: you had told me, that the Nuggets hold OKC to
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  Speaker 4: under 100 points, I got W. They win. Now, the
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets were held 84, which is their worst output in
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  Speaker 4: seven years.
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  Speaker 6: Well, when Jokic and Murray go 7 of 30 from
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  Speaker 6: the floor, that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: But the positives were there is what I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 6: That was my overall takeaway. Was that a game you
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  Speaker 6: should have won if you held OKC to 96 points?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Was the offensive performance overall from the Nuggets very poor?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: But the things that I was concerned about, can you
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  Speaker 6: find depth in the bargain bin? Guess what most they did? Like,
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  Speaker 6: Trevor Brazile's a thing. And DeMar DeRozan, he wasn't great
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  Speaker 6: last night. He had a lot of turnovers, too. But
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  Speaker 6: you can tell that he can be a guy that
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  Speaker 6: comes in and scores for you off the bench.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Brett.
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  Speaker 6: I thought even in the Bagley minutes, Bagley looked pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Brett, the Nuggets bench outscored the OKC bench.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 4: The vaunted Oklahoma City bench. The deepest team in the league, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's the point. And Denver scored more points from their
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  Speaker 4: bench than OKC did. And you lost the game, man.
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  Speaker 2: And they lost the game because they couldn't shoot the ball.
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  Speaker 4: But, Moj.
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  Speaker 6: To that point, you know that Joker's not going 5
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  Speaker 6: of 19 from the floor very often.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed, agreed.
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  Speaker 6: But his long range, like, just stop. Wait, wait, just wait.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 6: To what Vic said, that's the deepest team in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Like, they have guys on their bench probably 2 to
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  Speaker 6: 3 deep that are starters for most teams in the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Your bench outplayed that unit.
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  Speaker 4: It did.
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  Speaker 6: The guys that you got off the scrap heap.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I'm encouraged by.
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  Speaker 2: The best player on the planet was a minus 20
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  Speaker 2: last night. I just, it's just, to me, if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to shoot that poorly and your bench is going
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  Speaker 2: to absolutely outscore their bench, which is rare, win the game.
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  Speaker 2: You got to win that game. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 6: And by the way, I felt like I was.
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  Speaker 2: Watching a game from like 1991, 96 to 84.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you can only muster 84 points.
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  Speaker 4: I loved it. I loved, you know, as much as
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  Speaker 4: people say, you know, offense is everything. That game last
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  Speaker 4: night was more entertaining for me, the basketball fan, than
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  Speaker 4: having a bunch of dudes just jack three.
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  Speaker 6: I actually agree with you. I was really entertained by
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  Speaker 6: the game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw Dino's face early. Got his face.
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  Speaker 2: He's just got a face. Saw Chet's hair.
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  Speaker 4: Got this.
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  Speaker 2: Tight fade thing going on the side.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, let me ask you something.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 6: If the abs played against.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me a moment to hate their faces, please.
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  Speaker 4: No, go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: But if the abs played against Carolina and it's the
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  Speaker 6: first game of the year, right? And the abs do
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  Speaker 6: everything really well, but McKinnon has a terrible game. If
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  Speaker 6: McKinnon and McCarr both have like the worst games you've
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  Speaker 6: ever seen from them and you end up losing two
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  Speaker 6: to one, wouldn't you be like, Well, that's not going
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  Speaker 6: to happen very often.
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  Speaker 2: No, I completely agree, which is why you've got to
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  Speaker 2: win those games, though. And by the way, I look
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  Speaker 2: at the Avs in Carolina. I know they're defending champs.
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  Speaker 6: Equal footing.
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets are not as good overall as Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 6: Also true, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You just lost to the best team in basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. But you know what? There's a time
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  Speaker 2: around these parts where you would say, eh, big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Go win that game.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: And now we're just moral victory.
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  Speaker 6: It's a moral victory Friday.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not a moral victory, Moshe. It's fact.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the fact. The Denver Nuggets are not as good
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  Speaker 4: as Oklahoma City. I know a lot of you hate
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  Speaker 4: to hear that, and I hate to say that. Oklahoma City,
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  Speaker 4: by and large, is a better basketball team. And to
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  Speaker 4: beat them, you have to play perfectly, almost.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Especially at their place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Has anything I said so far in those last two sentences,
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  Speaker 4: am I wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 4: No. So why would you be devastated or why is
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  Speaker 4: it field day? The Nuggets did, I think they did
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  Speaker 4: everything I asked them to do. I said, play defense,
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  Speaker 4: hold off Shea, double him every time, double him before
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  Speaker 4: he gets to the arena. They did that. Did you
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  Speaker 4: see how many times Nikola Jokic Shea'd it over on Shea? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They held Shea to under 20 points for the first time.
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  Speaker 6: In two years.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: They snapped his streak.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Then you have to win that game.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: You're exactly right. They didn't win it because they couldn't shoot.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Why are they 64% from the foul line? I mean, look,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: everything went the way we wanted it to go. Shea
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: didn't get off. It wasn't a parade to the foul line.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: They only shot 14 free throws last night, talking about OKC.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: They shot crap from three-point range. You held them there.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: They shot crap from the field. You held them there.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Nobody went off and went crazy. Your bench outscored their bench. Yet,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: yet you lose because your big guns can't make a bucket.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I just, I'm sorry. Listen, it's not, there's 81 games
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: to go. It's going to be fine.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: That was just frustrating to me.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Joker and Jamal had perhaps their combined worst games, like combined,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: that I can remember.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: They've had bad games, but one of them has picked
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: it up for the other guy.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Five of 19 minus 20, two for 11 minus 15.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: I get your point, Moj. I just, I don't, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: don't feel like if this is a playoff game, then
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: I'm totally on board with you. It's your first game
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: of the year. It's the Thunder second and they were
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: playing at home for the first time in the season
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: and your big guns stunk like on the offensive side.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Why don't I try from this point on at 717
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: in the morning? I will try to display a positive attitude.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying you have to do that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: By the way, that shirt you're wearing drives me insane.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Me too. I don't know why you wear that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It's like a real-life Rorschach test I have to look
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: at all day. It's a stupid, stupid shirt.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, look at me.
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: I'm Salvador Dali.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: People on the.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Text line are saying we're trying to paint a a
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: field day approach to this, a moral victory. I'm not
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: painting a moral victory whatsoever. You lost. You're 0-1. You're
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: not as good as that team. There's no moral victory
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: when you say that. But there were things they did
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: that were good. I can say that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: They're better defensively already than they were last season. I
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: can say that. I can speak that into an open microphone.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: They're better and more committed defensively than they were last season.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I can see it already. That's a fact. That's what
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I saw last night. Now, The other fact is they're
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: not as good as OKC. So how do you get there?
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: And here's the other thing. The Nuggets were doing just
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: fine until Cam Johnson went down. What have we been
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: talking about all offseason? What's your depth look like? Well,
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: when one of your starters goes down 11 minutes into
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: the game, or 11 of his minutes into the game,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: and you have to rely on depth now to play
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: a starting role in this, then yeah, you take a
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: huge shot to it. And let's be honest. What they
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: were doing to Jamal and Joker were forcing them to
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: get other guys involved. Cam Johnson was getting involved in
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: knocking down open shots. Nobody else was doing it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: When did it get hurt? I don't even remember. Well,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: you guys remember? I don't remember the moment.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't remember. Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: It wasn't like they didn't like stop play. Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't see him fall on the floor and ride
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: around and all that kind of thing. It's just a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: diagnosed face, man.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: It's his face.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: It's, Dude, you don't have to sell me on this.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: You don't have to sell me on any of that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I know where you're coming from. It's this.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's this.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, that guy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: That frigging guy. Do you understand what I'm saying? If
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Mark Dagnall's face was a shirt, it'd be your shirt.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Your shirt is so repulsive.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: It's so stupid.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Feel this shirt, though.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Feel it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: It is one of the most repulsive things we've ever
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: put on. I have.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I have touched you, but your shirt looks stupid.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Listen to me.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: I think it's great.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Listen to me.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: The triad form fitting.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Listen, Kevin Shockey. Joel.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Matt.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Steve.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: All of you that run our operation. Please institute a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: policy that forbids him to wear that shirt. Because I
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: can't do it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: I agree. It feels great.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I know it feels great. I've felt you. You know what?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You have no idea.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: I have felt you.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: You're not wrong. It's just optically, it's going to give
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: me a seizure.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Do you understand that? Fishing shirt guy is going to
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: talk to me about shirts? Is that what's happening? Yeah. Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: it's old lady. Yeah, it's old lady.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It's old. lady China wear. What do you call it? Like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: you know, China or what do you call it?
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Fine China.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Fine China.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: It's flat wear.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: No, not flat wear.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Fine China is what you're looking for. That's what it is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Bud Light Football Friday. Chad Brown joins us at 9 o'clock.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Stick around.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: You know....
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Shut up and let Charlie do his thing. You shut
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: up and you let Charlie Wilson sing, baby.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Charlie Wilson's the man. But even Charlie today can't get
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: me out of my mood. Vic, I'm in a mood.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Shut up for a second. Listen to Uncle Charlie. You
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: broke my fire. Tell me you don't like this, Vic.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Tell me.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Tell me.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: What's with the dining plates that were on the back?
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Leave those up there. I like those. Whatever you had
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: up there. That was what Brett's shirt looks like.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: He's wearing fine china today. By the way, my shirt,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: shout out to Brian, who owns Fraser River Brewing over
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: in Fraser, Colorado.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: My man.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: It's his shirt from his brewery. Great beers. If you're
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: out in Fraser, go see my man.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You look like a walking hieroglyphic.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: You look like a broken plate.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: But, but, Vic, Charlie Wilson's the man. Can we all agree?
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Charlie Wilson?
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay. Except now anytime I hear that song, I'm
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: just going to picture Marcus Freeman playing saxophone. I tell you,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: this AI stuff has gotten so crazy.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: It's gotten out of control.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: It's out of control.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you this much, man, on this Bud Light
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Football Friday.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Who else was playing the saxophone?
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: He didn't play the sax. No.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: What's her name?
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: She was singing. All right. And the Alabama coach was smiling.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: No, Vic, Vic, after the Thursday night game last night,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: They made that A.J. Brown, Drake May, Vrabel was Charlie
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Wilson singing, and then they cut to the saxophone player,
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: and it was Diana Rossini.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: That's so good. So anyway.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Let's talk some football, man.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Speaking of.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get at it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: I had a moment again last night. I have the
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Nuggets on one TV, and I have the Thursday Night
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Football game on the other. So did I.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Guys. Is he that guy?
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: I can't get over it. I want so badly, so badly,
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: to watch a game with Bo Nix like I watch
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Caleb Williams and like I watch Draymond.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Is Caleb Williams really that guy?
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: Because I'm afraid he might be that guy. I don't
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: like Caleb Williams, but he is really good.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: He's fearless. You know what I noticed last time with
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams? He throws the middle of the field.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Dude, the throw that he had, it was third, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: think it was like third and nine. Patriots are down six.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: It's the end of the fourth quarter. You've got to
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: make a play to extend, to move the change, to
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: keep the clock going. Vic, that throw that he had
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: over the outstretched fingertips of Kevin Byard at the end
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: of that game, fit it in the pocket, zone coverage.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: I think it was Colston Loveland that made the catch.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: To get a first down is just like, it's crazy.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: And I saw that. I saw Drake May on a
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: couple of deep balls, even ones that didn't connect. Where Mosher,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: you talk about the teardrop pass. He had two of
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: them in that game yesterday that were in the bucket.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, those are two guys in his class. That's the thing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: These are the same age. These are his classmates. Do
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying to you? These are his contemporaries.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: These are his boys.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: This is how he's going to be measured from now on.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: How do you compare to these two? Because Penix is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: going to break down. Oh, my God.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: If that guy has a research into this guy. Oh,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: shut up with McCarthy. McCarthy's nothing.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, what I'm saying to you is that all these
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: dudes in that class, these are the two dudes he's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: going to be compared to. Their rating after the game,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Williams is 116.7.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: May 117.8.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the ratings were. They threw the ball.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: They threw the ball beautifully.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So this is where your measuring stick has to be.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: And when I watch that game and I watch those
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: guys do that stuff, I'm like, why can't we have
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that right now? Why not?
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: I want to get me some of that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Can I have some of that? Why can't I have
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: some of that?
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: The biggest distinction I've noticed.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: I'm in a mood.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: By the way, I'm in a mood, Vic.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: All right. Enough with your mood. Yes, enough.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Enough.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Enough.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Couldn't care less. Thanks, Caleb.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I don't care. We're not your therapy, okay?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Thank God, because you'd probably be ruined by now. Broncos
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: don't play until Sunday, so that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Continue, Vic.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Middle of the field. Just do your thing. Do your thing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Middle of the field that Caleb Williams is able to
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: throw to.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm watching this unfold. I'm like, my God. That
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: part of the field exists.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: It's there. I know. And look, man, there is a gigantic, like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I don't know how else to put it. They throw
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: the ball with confidence. With confidence. When they drive into
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: a throw, they stay in the pocket comfortably. Until the
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: pocket collapses. But if it's clean, they stay there and
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: they keep their eyes downfield. This is all a confidence
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: thing to me.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Do you know why?
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Well, just to finish this. Bo Nix, I will maintain this.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: He's not a bad quarterback. He's not.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know how good he is, but he's not bad.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: I've seen it. I've seen this guy make throws in
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: the pocket, drive the ball downfield. Again... If you think
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: I'm crazy, go flip on the Buffalo Bills playoff tape
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: and tell me that guy can't throw the ball. Like,
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: it's not true. He can, but there is a confidence
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: issue with kind of everything surrounding his game. He doesn't
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: want to take off and run. He doesn't want to
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: stay in a clean pocket, and he doesn't want to
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: push the ball downfield. You know what I noticed last night?
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: I don't think that Drake May is some sort of
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: fleet of foot character.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Do you?
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: In the last four games.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: No, he's not a speed burner, no.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: In the last four games. He's 130 rushing yards. In
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: the last four games. Bo has 37 all year. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: I'm just, I'm looking at that saying, well, and guys,
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: do you remember Drake May's start to the season? He
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: was miserable for three weeks. We thought last year was
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: a fluke he was so bad. Through three weeks of
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: the season, he had one touchdown and six picks. Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: He had nine all of last year, by the way.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Nine.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: He has 12 touchdowns and two picks in the last
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: four weeks, in the last month of football. Like, you
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: can change confidence quickly. Like, God, does Bo Nix need something?
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: And maybe it's just one play. Like, can he step
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: up in the pocket, climb it, and make a 50-yard,
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: 40-yard throw that maybe changes that? I don't know. But
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: I think it's a... You heard it yesterday. Here's what
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: he said.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: You know, I'd be lying if I said no.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: I don't think.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: I think that's just what happens. I think you come
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: back and you're like, every day is a progression. It's
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: like you're doing treatment for the whole entire year. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: I'm not necessarily doing... physical therapy treatment, but I'm out
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: there on the practice field getting rep after rep, trying
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: to get back in super great shape so my carries
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: can go up, so I'm ready when my number's called
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: and when I can run. But I'm not scared. I'm
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: not physically worried. I just think there's something to the sport.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: I think all guys, when they come back from an injury,
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: it's like just doing it one day at a time.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: That's just part of the game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: That's part of the process. I had surgery probably, I think,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: six months ago. It takes a while for things to
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: fully re-engage and re-come back. And, you know, I'm confident myself.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: I know I'm going to get back and be exactly
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: what I was, if not better, because as I'm, as
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: I get older, that's how it's been.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: He sounds uncomfortable.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: He is becoming more and more transparent about the injury though.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: It went from, it's not an issue. Don't worry about it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Don't ask about it too. Yeah. Yeah, it's an issue.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: It's been an issue.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: What's weird, Vic, is they followed up the next question.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: We just talked to Legwald about this. Legwald followed up
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: after that answer and said, so the ankle's totally good?
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: And he goes, yeah, it's 100% fine. It's like, well,
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: it's not.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Well, physically it's fine. Physically it's fine. Mentally it's not.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Can I get back to when you watch May and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Williams last night?
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You're like, they're planting their feet. They're driving the ball
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: down the middle of the field, Vic. And I know
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that that's probably, you know, it's your blood pumping. I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: That's the one thing I noticed.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: Well, you know what they're doing?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Let me explain. They are doing their job. They are
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: National Football League starting quarterbacks. Your job is to stay
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: in the pocket, slide in the pocket, step up into
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the pocket, and fire the pig down the field. That's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: your job. Fire it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: You're a pro. You're a starting quarterback in the NFL.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: That's their job.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, my God, they look fearless doing it. Well,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: they should be fearless. They're starting quarterbacks in the National
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Football League.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Mos, you're right. Where are we at right now where
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: we have to applaud somebody for doing what is called for?
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: And that is to throw the football into places that
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: are tight.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So what you're saying, Vic, is what you saw last night.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: They look like normal NFL starting quarterbacks. You're so right. Wow.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Is that what we've come to now where we have
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: to beg and plead to get that? done?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: By the way, that sounds so mean. It sounds like
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just being a jerk. That's what you should expect on.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: A weekly basis.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: I don't disagree with what you guys are saying. What
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: you saw last night is not normal quarterback play. That
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: is great play. Elite-level quarterback. They're his draft class, bro.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: These are his mates. Understood. But it's like Jacoby Brissett
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: is a normal quarterback, right? The guy that you face
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: this week is a normal quarterback.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're going to see on Sunday, you're going
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: to see him step up in the pocket and fire
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that pick. Yes, exactly. Fire it between the hashes.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I tell you, Drake May was making all the right
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: reads until he threw that horrible pick.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, one throw. One throw killed him.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: And that was bad, too, because that snuffed out a touchdown.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you throw a pick in the end zone and
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: you don't get points in the red zone. You lose
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: by six, yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: You're right, though. You're right because you're watching Bo's contemporaries
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: from the same draft class on a Thursday night throw
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the middle of the field. And they made it look
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: so effortless and easy and without any, I'm going to
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: use the word that Jeff taught us yesterday, without any
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: compunction whatsoever, throwing the middle of the field.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Not worried about it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Vic, I think he will. Again, the Cardinals' defense gives
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: up 30 points a game almost. When you look at
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the total yards, when you look at the yards passing,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the yards rushing, total yards, they are identical to the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos' defense, which is crazy. But the Broncos' defense
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't give up the points. This team gives up the points.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I think that they are going to be able to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: exploit that this week.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: They didn't do that to the Rams last week.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Stafford's pretty good.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but something's happened to them, man. I don't know
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: how this works.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Things happen to teams.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: It's just weird to me.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of done basing my expectation off the opponent
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: that the Broncos are playing, and it's about them. I
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: think the Broncos could face the best defense and the
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: worst defense in the league through this point in the season,
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: and it would look the exact same. Am I wrong?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: No, you're not wrong. Why do I hate Chet Holmgren's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: hair so much?
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Because it's stupid.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: It's a dumb hair. Yeah, it's a bad Friday, man.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Friday should be happy Friday. Got some abs hocking tonight.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: I'm super happy.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Lightning, we're in town.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Don't you put your dour mood on me. I'm great.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Elijah, you weren't in a robe.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Oh, ain't so fun when the rabbit has the gun, is.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It? What?
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: What?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: What?
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: If you want to be ended in three seconds, then
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: go ahead. I got this. Yeah, I don't really care.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: It's a Bud Light Football Friday back after this. It's
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: a Bud Light Football Friday before Denver takes on Arizona
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: on Sunday. Tune in for the Altitude Kickoff show at noon.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: DMACC is live from Rooftop Social. Vic, you remember that
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: place well. That's where Rock, Paper, Scissors was. It's all
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  Speaker 6: Sports Radio 92.5. So, I don't know how else to
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: put it. This is where I'm at with the Broncos
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: game this weekend. I think they win. Because the Broncos
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: are good.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: And they usually win.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: They are going to win. They're going to be a
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: 5-2 football team getting ready to welcome in Kansas City.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: I also think it's going to be incredibly frustrating again.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I really do. And the big question here is this.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Do you guys think that Jonah Coleman coming back this
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: week makes a difference? Does that matter? That's such a
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: loaded question. Like, talking to Lakey, I heard him when
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: he was talking to us, when he talked to, I
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: believe it was PhD the other day.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I'd like to think that it will, Brett.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: He seems to be very convinced that Jonah Coleman brings
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: a decisiveness, he said, to the running back room. I've
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: said this before. If you're putting your hopes and dreams
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: on the fourth round running back that we haven't seen
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: play yet, being the difference in your running game, then that's...
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It feels weird.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Vic, you know what I am? I'm going to admit
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: this on this Friday morning at 7.45 a.m.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: An irascible nightmare?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I'm a trained circus animal. That's what I am. I'm
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: a trained... Pick your animal.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Because, Brett, I've been.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Goat.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I'm a trained goat. Milk me. I've been trained by
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos, Brett, to... It doesn't matter who you
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: put in at running back. It doesn't matter if the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: rookie comes in and his big thighs are churning. Doesn't matter.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: He does have some big thighs, though.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: They're going to win the same way they always win.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: It's going to be frustrating. I'm going to be mad.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be, oh, there's no way they can,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and then they'll pull it out. I'm trained that way. Again,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: we were talking with Jeff about the defense. It's not,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: when you look at the total yards given up, it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: really not good. The defense gives up plenty of yards,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and it has all year long. Yeah. But they make
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the play when they need to make the play. They
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: get the pick. They force the turnover. They get the stop.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Whatever it may be, they just make the play when
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: it's most apropos. And that's what's going to happen again
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: this week against a Cardinals team that I have zero
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: respect for. None whatsoever.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest difference you're going to see this
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: week is that they have room to breathe, the Broncos offense,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: because they're playing a team that doesn't have the same
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: capability and talent that some of the teams they've already faced.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: That six-game swing featuring some of the best defenses in
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: the league, featuring that Seattle defense, which still remains among
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: the best in the league, if not the best. Now
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: they face a defense that is not going to swarm
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: as much, is not as talented, is not as skillful,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: doesn't have the names. So you're going to have that opportunity.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I don't think it comes down to, wow, watch, Jonah
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Coleman's going to change the way the Broncos play football.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's one guy. I think it's who
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: they're playing.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: The Cardinals can't do anything on offense. They, they're least
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: in a league, 32nd in explosive play rate. They can't,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: they can't make a big play happen. Jeremiah love who
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: they spent a third overall pick on has been hurt.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: He's going to be hurt again. This week will not play,
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: but even when he played, he averaged 3.7 yards per
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: carry Tyson. Uh, is it Tyson Algier, Tyler Algier? He's
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: averaging three yards per carry. Like this is not going
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: to be a problem. The defensive part of this in, in,
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: That's why if I'm Sean Payton, I think I walk
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: up to Bo this week and I'm like, man, take
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: some shots. Like, take a risk.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: It's okay.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Like, literally, it's okay to take a risk. You can
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: put the ball, quote, in harm's way reasonably. You know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: when you gamble most, when you go out to Blackhawk,
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: you're playing poker sometime soon, aren't you? You got a
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: promo for that or something?
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What are you doing?
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on. I just heard you're
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: playing poker somewhere.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I'm hosting a big poker tournament at Bally's in Blackhawk
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: on the 30th. Yes. So come take my money, Vic,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: if you think you're man enough.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, Moe.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Like real money? Yes.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: So let's say you got pocket sixes. Is it great? No.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: But it's okay. It's all right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it depends on how many people are in the hand.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Pay him.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Let's keep going down this sort of story. Let's say
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: there's only one other guy in the hand. Okay, everybody
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: else folded. You got pocket sixes. Are you willing to
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: bet a little bit more money on your pocket sixes now?
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: That's what I think Bo is this week against the Cardinals.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And then, man, I'd love to see a flop with
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a six.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Ho, ho, ho, daddy. But that's the thing, Mo.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going to slow play it. I'm going to get them.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: All right, got it. Well, don't give your strategy away.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: They'll take your money.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Pay that man his money.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: But I think that's Bo Nix this week against the Cardinals.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: It's like.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: You have the ability to take some risks this week.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: Go and take them. See what you're capable of. Like,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: sometimes make a throw just to see if you can
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: make the throw. Yes, I completely agree.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: You guys have, I've bought into your philosophy. Vic, I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Throw the ball all over the place.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Throw it a lot. If not now, when? If not
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: against this team, then whom?
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Again, they just faced the Broncos, the toughest defense yard-wise
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, right?
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: They just did.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: And now they're going up against a defense that's ranked
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: 23rd in yards per game. Do you know where they're
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: ranked yards per play? They're 30th. They're 31st in points
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: per game. They give up a lot of points.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: They give up almost 30 per game. So you mentioned
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: all those numbers already, Brett, and I'm looking at these
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: numbers saying if there's ever a week to– guys, my
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: approach to the start of the game, let it rip.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Texture says Drake May's interception lost them the game last night,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: but do you think Bo Nix can afford the same mistake?
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: They're playing Caleb Williams and the Bears. It's not the Cardinals.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: It's easy to say that interception cost them the game.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: That happened in the first half. That happened early in
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: the game. They had plenty of time to come back
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and make up for that interception. They had it fourth
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: and short twice and opted not to go for it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: So it's easy to say an interception in the first
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: half cost them the game. Turnovers obviously hurt.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: They hurt. But Chicago's the best offense in the league, arguably,
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: with Caleb Williams healthy. Like, that's not Jacoby Brissett. It's
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: not that. The only thing, heed my words, the only
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: thing The Cardinals can do an offense is what? What
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: is it, Moj? They get the ball to Trey McBride.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: And Trey McBride's really good.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: He's a stud. That's all they got. Have you seen
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: their wide receiving core? Kendrick Bourne and guys like this? Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: They don't have anything. Exactly right.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: They've got nothing.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: You should go in there. You should go to Arizona.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: By the way, I've never been to that stadium. I've
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: seen the stadium. I've stayed by the stadium when the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Avs used to play the Coyotes. I've never been in
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that stadium. You should go to that stadium, whatever it's called,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Vic's former place, and you should smoke those guys.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Bronco should come in here and beat that Avs.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what should happen.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: If you throw a pick at the 40-yard line, I
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: think your defense can hold them to no points. I'm
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: not even kidding.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: So tell me what's wrong with coming out and throwing
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: goal patterns to start the game. Nothing.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Hell, you know what?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Go three and out, but three fly patterns and just
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: bomb it. Fine with me. You've got nothing to lose
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: against this team. Do you think less of me if
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I ask him to do that? Do I think less
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: of you?
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I completely agree with you.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: I always do, but.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: No, just, I mean, look.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: Actually, Vic, I don't. It's hard for me to think
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: even less.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: You can't go any less.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: There's really nowhere to go, Vic.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: I'm as low as I get.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying he's right. Literally against this team. This
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: is where you experiment. That's what you do. You get
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: your beakers out and your test tubes and stuff. Make
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: a test tube baby this weekend. Your own homemade test
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: tube baby. Go do it. You have the opportunity against
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: this defense, which is not good, and an offense which
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: is borderline crap, and that's what you have been lately.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and open up the toolbox and play with
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: all your tools.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Go play with them.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Let me give you my favorite stat going into this game. What?
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: This is my favorite stat. Let's call it Vic's favorite stat.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Because you know how much I love stats.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Vic's favorite stat of the day. All right. The Denver
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Broncos record against the Arizona Cardinals. The best record against
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: any team in the NFL. Do you know what their
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: number is against the Cardinals? All time? Ten, one, and one.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: They've lost one game to the Cardinals.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: What was the tie?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: In their history.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: When did they tie the Cardinals?
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: In their history, they've lost one game to the Arizona Cardinals.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Let's see. When did that tie come? The tie came
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: in the first game they ever played, 1973, back when
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: they were in St. Louis, the St. Louis Cardinals at
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Bush Stadium. The game ended in a tie, 17-17. After that,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: the Broncos just run the course. Their only loss came
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: in 2010. Since then, the Broncos have won three in
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: a row. They're 10-1-1 against Arizona or the Cardinals or
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: whatever outfit they represent.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: This should be a game in which you should be
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: able to win and breathe at the same time. You
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: shouldn't have to hold your breath, bite your nails. Like,
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: this is not that type of game. It shouldn't be anyway.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Although it probably will because that's what they do. So, 303-504-0925.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: I'm going to.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Be in Nashville getting ready for a hockey game.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Sweet.
• 43:19
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• 43:25
  Speaker 6: It's just a useless piece of information.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: They should just go in there and whip these guys.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: They should just go in there and beat their tails.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Broncos are a superb football team on
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the defensive side. I want to see that offense kick
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: it up just even this much. That'll make me happy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: So a lot more to get to as we go along.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Chad Brown at 9 o'clock. Stick around.