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#381 - For Azeroth!: “Decor Duels and Drama" · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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So if you're wondering why your strafe doesn't work anymore,
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this census patch went live. It's because we fixed the
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shamans to be more thematic. Victory for the Forsaken.
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For Lauderon. For the Kieran tour for.
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Pandaria. For calendar to the.
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Burning region for Gilnaeus or has not died for the Lich King?
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For the Cindori. For the Alliance, for the.
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Whore for Azeroth. Hello and welcome to another
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episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, the true
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villain Manny or just Manny, and I am joined coming from the
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lovely, lovely Illinois we. Have no Alabama.
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Alabama. We got it.
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Yeah, because one of the comments on Spotify that I read
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this week. Weeks ago, Sean.
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Said when? I can't wait till Alexis from
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Alabama to find out what you guys know about my state so
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she's got to be from Alabama. I replied to that.
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I actually replied but I had to like accept 7 different things.
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Saying I understood that what I was replying to was a comment on
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Spotify and that it could be seen by other people.
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I did it just so that I could tell whoever I can't read the
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person's name but just so I could tell them.
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Louis, I told you, I tell Louis that we were going to make Lex
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from Alabama this week, so you got to make Lex from Alabama.
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So just do it again. Believe all the hints.
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Lewis understands how important this was to us.
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You know, if you had said something before the show had
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started, made like. Saying the.
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Smallest amount of effort this would have been.
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Fun this is great radio people love this listen this is how the
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happiest we're. All the way from Alabama, we
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have the amazing The astonishing Lex Rants.
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Hello Lex, how are you and how's the World of Warcraft treating
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you this week? Great, my dog actually is from
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Alabama. So you like 50% docks my dog.
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I'm so good, Manny, I'm having a very good time.
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This patch is amazing for one reason and one reason only.
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It's because Decor Duels is the single stupidest game mode I've
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played in my entire life and I'm terrible at it and I love it so
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much the rest of it. We'll talk later.
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OK, OK. I mean, like we're we are on the
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second day of the patch. It was a long maintenance.
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So, you know, limited experience with that.
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But I am glad that it's left such a mark on you coming from
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someplace other than Alabama. We have Sean.
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Hello, Sean. How are you and how is the World
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of Warcraft cheating you this week?
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Well, it's been one week since we last spoke.
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We've had a new patch. I too have played a metric
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boatload of Decor duels. I have completed all of the
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achievements for it, so I have the meta achievement for Decor
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duel finished. I have almost finished
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purchasing all of the trans mug, which if I'm being honest is the
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only reason I'm playing the game mode.
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And when I finish getting that, I think I have two pieces left.
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So 150 which is 10 more matches at 7 minutes a match. 70 minutes
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of Decor duel left in my life. I will then probably never
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become a cake again. But it's been good.
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There's it's been rocky. The patch launch was not so
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maintenance so the server's credits are.
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Blizzard servers came up on time, they just forgot a lot of
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stuff like all of the Mistweaver changes that were posted.
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I mean this is the big topic of today, so I guess we'll go right
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into it with 12 point O .5 coming out.
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So Sean, as you said, this was this was a rocky patch.
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They had to do another maintenance because some things
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kind of got left on the developer floor as you alluding
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to. What are the things that have
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been hitting you the hardest? Let's let's go around.
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We'll do like big thing for you. We'll do a troubles that Lexus
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had and then we'll come back to you.
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OK, cool. So biggest there is a there is a
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lot a lot of bugs. If you're playing the game right
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now, you've probably encountered at least one of them.
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Some things that aren't necessarily bugs, but are just
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like they forgot to turn off humanoid tracking into core
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hunt. So if you use black and warg
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stakes or or a hunter, you can just track where all the people
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are hidden and just immediately walk to them and display them.
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Which is probably why Lex is losing so much, because people
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are are, you know? Sean I think it's because I will
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sometimes think that I'm being really smart and witty and
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change my like decor with something nearby when someone's
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looking directly at me and be like, they won't understand
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what's going on and they always understand what's going on
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anyway. OK, maybe it's not.
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Maybe it's not some food then. But no, the big so biggest, I
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think the biggest item that is a problem for most people is that
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bonus loot. The new feature that came, you
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know, the tokens, the nebulous void cores, which is supposed to
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not allow you to get a duplicate anytime.
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Like if you use it on a boss or at the end of a mythic plus
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dungeon or delve or whatever, you're not supposed to be able
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to get duplicates of things on that list that you've gotten
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from nebulous void cores. So if you get use bonus loot and
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you get an Algathar puzzle box, the next time you go to Algathar
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Academy and use bonus loot, you're not supposed to be able
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to get a puzzle box. That is not, in fact, how it's
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functioning. And as of still now as a
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recording, that bug still exists where you can get duplicate
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loot, which if it's two puzzle boxes, you're probably ecstatic
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because you wanted at least one puzzle box.
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But if it's two belts, you're probably less happy and I guess
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you don't want to suck a puzzle box either.
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But so the bonus loots are just literally not functioning in the
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way that they were said they would function.
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And on top of that, the timer to decide if you want to use your
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bonus loot roll or not is shorter than the timer that you
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have on group loot. So let's say you go and kill
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Mythic Chimeris and the Gaze of the on Seer drops and you roll
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need on it and then your bonus loot window comes up.
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Your bonus loot. What you have to decide to use
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your bonus loot window because it will expire before the group
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loot window from the boss expires.
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So anybody who has who wants that trinket is just sitting on
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and waiting for the time where the bonus loot should expire
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before making their decision. So people are having to decide
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earlier to send bonus loot when they might not need to.
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So that also needs to be extended.
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That's just, I think that's not a bug, that's just an oversight
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on the bonus loop. But the bonus loop 1 was really
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big. There's a lot of others.
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I don't want to Bogart the mic here, but the bonus 1 is a
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really big one. Do not use your bonus loot until
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you see a Wowhead article that says bonus loot has been fixed.
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Do not send it like you can send one then.
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This is just an indulgence. So obviously you're using both
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of your coins to send it in raid.
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You won't get another 2 coins till next week because surely
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it'll be fixed by then. But this week, if you're sending
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both of your coins or all three of your coins in raid, don't
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send a second one until you see an article on Wowhead or Icy
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Veins or your podcast aggregator of choice or your news
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aggregator of choice that says, hey, bonus rolls are fixed.
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Can we also, sorry, one more thing.
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Yeah, go ahead Can. We pause for a moment.
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I'm realizing I don't understand what's going on with bonus loot
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in like the bonus rolls in general.
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Do we want to explain that really quick?
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Because I'm guessing I'm not the only one who's a little bit
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perplexed by this whole situation.
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Yeah, definitely. Do you want to do you want to
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explain it, Manny? Because I've been talking for a
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lot. Sure.
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So basically with the bonus rolls, you're supposed to be
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able to use it to get a loot that would drop from that
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content. So in the case of a mythic boss,
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you defeat the boss and then on top of all the loot that you
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would get normally that you share between the rate team, you
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get a bonus roll, which is a which will give you a personal
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loot of an item that would drop from that boss.
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And the way it's supposed to work is that if you come across
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that boss again on like mythic difficulty and you roll, you
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roll a bonus rolls again, you'll get another piece of loot, but
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it should not be the same piece you have already got.
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It has duplicate protection or at least it's supposed to.
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Now, what I had heard is that like they had said before, if
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you do the boss on normal heroic mythic, those are three separate
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loopholes and therefore you could get duplicates in there.
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And what I have now been hearing is that people are doing mythic
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pluses on 11 and 10 and thinking that that's why they got
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duplicates. But even if they're all doing 11
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twice and not supposed to get a duplicate, they are getting
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duplicates. So yeah, like your your whatever
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bad luck protection is apparently not working at that
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at this time. Yeah, and one more bug.
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Maybe not a bug, maybe unintended function of the bonus
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loop tokens. If you open your Great Vault and
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none of the items are desirable, you can take the six tokens of
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merit that you get from your Great fault if you have three or
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more slots, and you can use those to purchase a nebulous
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Void Core, a bonus loop item that does not count against your
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weekly cap of two. But if you are purchasing that
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before you go to Decimus to get your two from him for the week,
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it is counting against your cap of two.
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So you have to get your bonus loot.
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Unlock the bonus loot this week 'cause you have to do one more
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quest to unlock it. Then purchase the bonus loot
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tokens. So the nebulous void cores from
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Decimus, which will give you 2, and then you can use your tokens
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of merit to buy your third from the vault.
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I'm going to assume this will be the same next week.
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So because most of us go to our vaults first thing on reset day,
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do not full stop, do not purchase your bonus loot token
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from the great Vault vendor until you've gotten your two
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from Decimus next week. Definitely don't do it this
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week. Probably don't do it next week.
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It's going to be a safe practice to to stick to that for a bit, I
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think. So that's that's the big things.
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Until it's fixed. Yeah, yeah, you could pull the
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coins. Just don't buy the thing.
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Yeah, if you've already bought it and accounted against it,
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hopefully there's a hot fix for it, but I wouldn't hold my
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breath. There's a that's my number one
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Manny is bonus loop, which is a a big item that everybody was
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looking forward to. This patch is just really,
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really buggy right now. Yeah.
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One thing that we will also say as APSA about the bonus loot is
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that this even if you don't use them this week, you can
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stockpile them and start using them on later weeks.
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Don't feel that you're like are going to are forced to use it
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within the week that you're supposed to.
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Now Alexa, what's the thing that's been hitting you hard
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with bugs in 12 point 0.5? So I don't think this is a bug,
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I think it just does not. I don't understand it.
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I don't understand how void assaults work.
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I was able to get to 1 for the quest and then I went in.
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I turned in my Crest, which by the way, was a huge pain in the
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butt and like everything was. I did not enjoy that.
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Like running around and like 20 people in different spots all
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with their little things overlapping.
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But whatever, we'll get over it if it's not that big of a deal.
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I was mostly just not looking at my map properly.
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We move on and so they flew back to continue doing void assaults
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after putting the like turning in the quests and I could not
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figure out how to continue that. I went to 1 and it was clearly
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in, in my it seemed to be clearly in assault and there
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were things to kill and they would give me the little like
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rocks that you turn in. But I wasn't getting the quest
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like the thing on the side saying keep doing this.
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And then sometimes it seemed like there was like a countdown
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or a percentage bar, but it didn't seem to relate to
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anything going on on the ground. And I tried to like wait with
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people and everyone was like, I think it's fun because we've
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been waiting here forever. So I flew off and did something
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else. And what that was was the
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cordials. So I I tried to find like
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Wowhead articles and they didn't really explain it.
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I genuinely do not understand if it's on a timer that I don't
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understand if I'm only allowed to do 1A day.
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Like I that whole situation it's just so nebulous that I don't
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feel any deep desire to engage with it even though it was one
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of the things I was very excited about because I just don't care
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enough to sort through it. But maybe if you guys understand
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it, would love to know. John, what's your?
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What's your experience with these void assaults and the?
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Voice Mr. GM did a video on them that I have not watched yet, and
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that is the extent of my experience with the overworld
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content that will drop nothing of desire for me.
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Speaking of Mr. GM, he did put out a post, a pretty long post
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on Twitter I believe, like today or yesterday about how the PTR
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really isn't doing much to test because of the speed of the
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cycles and how much you have to like go deep into things.
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But more to what you're saying, Lex was talking about how the
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game doesn't really explain things that are going on.
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And some discussion that we had in the discord that I believe
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you had said is that it almost feels like you need to go to
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third party sources in order to figure out what's happening in
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any given patch at any given time.
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The void strikes are on a timer. They do switch around based on
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like what time it is. If you fly in at the very end,
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it is kind of like the Radiant Flame event in Hollow Fall where
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you can get to the end. You can contribute a bit.
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You can get a green pouch if you get in right at the end, but
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like to get the the purple highest level of rewards you
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need to have contributed personally a lot, which meant
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that you probably needed to be there much earlier once you've
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done enough of those void strikes.
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Not just you particularly, but people in the area that will do
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the large assault, which is where the the cap experience is.
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That's where you deal with like the, I don't want to call it a
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world boss like I did last time, but it is a just like a scenario
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with a with a boss at the end of it do.
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We know what the timer is, or we just think it's on a timer.
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It is on a timer. I would say like check a site
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like today and Wow or maybe Wow heads updated.
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They're like events happening so so like that might be a source.
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But you do see the void strike show up on the map.
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Yeah, and maybe that was the like percentage like thing that
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I wasn't understanding. Basically, I like, I, I could
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see where they were, but I didn't have any sense of when
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they would actually be there. Like there was a thing on my map
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and that thing meant nothing to me because I flew to that place
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and nothing happened. And so, so like it just kind of
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felt like, yeah, I could stand in Villa lawn.
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And as we know from the the the pre patch event, if I have to
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stand around, I'm simply going to leave.
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So it might just be that I'm too lazy for this.
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OK, yeah, I I didn't do much of it.
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It's the timing of the patch. I talked a little bit last week
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about being a bit burnt out. The timing of the patch is
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really bad for me. I have not been doing ritual
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sites. I did, I think just the opening,
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like the scout show, like this void strike is happening.
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I don't think I've even turned that in.
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I haven't unlocked the void Forge.
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I think I've done enough stuff to do the turn in, but like part
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of it is that I have a bit more time because I don't raid until
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tomorrow, Thursday. So that allows me to like not
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have to rush things on Tuesday or Wednesday to like be ready
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for the for the raid night. And another part of it is that
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like, yeah, a lot of this is cosmetic or catch up sort of
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stuff so that I haven't felt the like absolute need to to rush
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through and do all this sort of stuff.
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But I really do think you're right, Lex, that like this .5
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patch feels very like unexplained, very small despite
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all the activities going on. Yeah, I also not to get all my
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complaints out in one when my dog is actively tearing up
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cardboard behind me. So forgive me if you can hear
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that leaking through my mic. There was also the like ritual
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in incursion thingy and I did 1 and I was like, oh, that was
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really fun. It kind of was like an open
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world delve. I'm so excited to see the
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others. And then I went out into the
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world and I, I think there's one.
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One this week, yeah. One per week?
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I thought it was like per day. No, it is one this week and then
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it'll switch to the other one. There are only two of them that
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will that will happen. And so the way that you need to
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go about it, it's like again, it's like Delves meet horrific
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visions, Storm and Orgemar, except this one is Eversong
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Woods Zolomon. So every week it'll switch back
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and forth. It's fine to do once.
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OK, so I think this is probably going to be my decor dual
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through that or patch event because I it was fine.
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The not a thing was fine, but it was not going to do this
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multiple times a week level of fun.
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OK. Yeah, I actually like.
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The core dual era for Sean and Lex got it.
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So still, Sean's is going to end real quick once he gets two more
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pieces of trans mock. Yeah, mine's almost over.
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My decor dual era's almost over. It's yeah that's we're barely
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scratching the surface of the bugs that came with this batch.
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Like unholy Death Knights just aren't functioning.
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Devoured Demon hunters have a 10% extra damage that I supposed
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to get. They turned off the coefficient
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for holy damage for holy priests so that they're just not they're
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doing 50% less damage than they should be.
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The the one that is the most egregious for me is the sound
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channel. All of our TTS and audio cues
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were coming through 1 sound channel.
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That sound channel has been now deleted and so everything is
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coming through the sound effects sound channel, which is cool.
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If you really want to hear the for rock mount or anybody who
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mounts the wondrous wave whisker so you can hear every time they
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get on one. It's it's not not great.
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Yeah, there's just been a lot at Lura.
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Private auras, private aura debuffs are not clearing when
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they should. So if you're doing Laura P2, you
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get the debuff, it just stays for the rest of the fight.
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If you die in the dark well, which is the center part in the
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room of Laura, it phases you from the rest of your team until
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you log out and log back in. So if you happen to walk into
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that Dome and die because you're doing a wipe, you have to reset
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your game, not just a reload. You have to literally log out
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and log back in to to be phased with your team again or you
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can't damage the boss or be healed.
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If you get battle rest afterwards, you're not in the
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same phase as the rest of your team.
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There's just a lot and then debuffs themselves that we went
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through all this trouble in the pre patch getting filtering so
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that we can see debuffs and it's all been broken and turned off
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again. So now for healers to see any
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debuffs, they're also going to see your gate debuff and your
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exhaustion debuff and your forbearance debuff and your
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purgatory debuff. It's I don't Manny.
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Give me, tell me something that will give me hope.
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One of you. Please, I beg.
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Because it's it's grim in these streets.
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So the biggest thing that I I think is causing this is that
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this is the speed of development this eight week cycle.
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It is likely that no 12 point O 5 was in development right
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before they released the stuff for 12/12 point O, so it forked
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early. They didn't bring over all of
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the changes that they've been making along the way and
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whatever version of 12 point O five that they committed to live
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servers just is is missing so many notes, so many things that
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were like OK two days ago are suddenly borked now.
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And like a workflow issue like that can be fixed it.
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It's not something that I would suspect is systemically portable
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and will continue to happen over and over and over again as long
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as they take the time to take the time to make sure that they
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are doing that. This isn't the first time it's
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happened, not even the first time it's happened, like,
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because people will be like, Oh yeah, yeah, they've been going
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at this since like Dragonflight or, or whatever for the fast,
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fast patch cadence. And no, we've had sort of these
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sort of things where it hasn't come over to a new patch before.
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It's just that the speed that they're going, it has never been
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so compounded in my memory right.
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Go ahead jump into the discord bit dot LY slash fast discord.
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Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me which patch was 10 times
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worse than this. This is this can easily be a
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recency bias. I'm willing to admit that.
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But I did try to to look back and think when this sort of
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thing where it's like they had fixed something and then it
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broke with the next patch and it happened so many different
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times. This this is a lot of TS that
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were crossed and I's that weren't dot dotted.
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And that kind of thing just happens more when they're moving
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at at a faster rate in my opinion.
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Yeah, and I mean, look, I'm famously team slow it down
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significantly, so this is not going to be a surprising take
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for me. I will say to be fair, my
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guild's a little behind right now, right?
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We're moving a little slower because we're training some
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people up and then, you know, going through rated R pace, but
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it was pretty much universally agreed upon by all of my friends
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that none of us wanted a .5 right now.
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This is too early, it's too fast.
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We don't like, we're not at a point when we want little screw
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around mechanics yet. We're not at a point when we
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want catch up. Like we were all fine doing our
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actual content and we all were going the the direction that we
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wanted to go. And now all of a sudden it's
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like, oh, and you know, all this extra stuff that you do too, but
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also it's not that much of it because there's enough time to
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prep it. And also it's all broken.
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Like I really feel like the eight week patch cycle is too
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fast and it's also not as clean. Like it just it's just kind of
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feels bad. And this just also makes it so
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you know, I I know you know, Sean's already almost done with
24:47
the core duel. So maybe you guys are chomping
24:51
at the bit for more stuff, but it it.
24:54
I wasn't even jumping at the bed for decor duel.
24:56
I just wanted that transmog real bad.
24:58
I wanted that transmog since BC. Yeah, it, it just doesn't it,
25:05
it, it means that like casual players at a slower pace like me
25:10
feel a ton of pressure to be pushing even harder because now
25:13
I also, you know, now I got to go get, grind up my hero gear
25:16
and I got to go, you know, figure out my roles and I like,
25:19
I, I feel behind and that is not a fun feeling to have.
25:23
And it is an even less fun feeling to have when it's only
25:27
it feels like it's only been a few weeks.
25:28
I feel like we've only had a few runs of raid and also
25:33
everything's breaking now. And so I don't even know what
25:35
we're going to do at RAID this week, because if they don't have
25:36
it fixed by Thursday, that's going to be a mess.
25:41
I mean, Lex, like they did give you a break from housing.
25:44
They shut that down a little bit so you could focus up a bit.
25:47
That's a good point. That's a good point.
25:51
For those not in enough for when they were bringing the servers
25:57
up, Kyvax went to the forums and said unfortunately while they
26:03
were doing their testing they found a critical bug in housing
26:06
that was causing way too many errors.
26:08
So as as much as people, including us, have been
26:11
complaining about errors, there were worse ones that they
26:14
shielded us from. And so they shut down housing
26:18
and that was shut down until they did a reset earlier today
26:21
and brought housing housing back up.
26:25
But yeah, sorry, that was a little bit tongue in cheek.
26:27
Go, go ahead, John. I, I, I definitely feel that
26:31
this season is, is like on a runaway train speed, but I think
26:36
part of that is because of the we had heroic week and then we
26:40
had the delayed opening of the raid.
26:42
So it like the season felt like it false started two or three
26:46
times before we act like it in my mind, the season really only
26:49
started March 24th when all of the mythic raids were open and
26:54
and mythic plus were open and that's not great.
27:00
I think that sort of hurts because it does feel like oh
27:04
man, we're already in the .5 patch.
27:06
This is wow, this is fast. Like it's yeah.
27:11
And then but then you think, OK, well there's 16 weeks until .1,
27:16
so there's still three months to go, four months to go three
27:20
months. There's still some months to go
27:24
before the end, like 6. We were expecting 8 weeks back
27:27
cycles but it's just. Isn't 8 weeks just two months?
27:32
Yeah, but there's two, it's .7 and then from .7 to .10.
27:36
I see. Yeah.
27:37
So it's four months. We have four months left of this
27:39
season. Yeah, 16 weeks.
27:44
That's four months assuming it's an 8 week cycle in each on them.
27:48
But I like I, I know that I can sit here and say it's too fast
27:53
and that I can say and that I think most of us would agree.
27:56
Take your time, you know, maybe do 10 weeks, you know, take the
28:00
time to figure this out before it hits US, before it goes live.
28:05
Take the time to make sure we are checking those IS and
28:07
dotting those T's. I think that it's not just the
28:11
speed, right? If you look at what was given to
28:17
us this patch versus what was given to us in Siren Isles,
28:21
there's way more. We haven't even talked about the
28:24
Abyss Anglers thing that got added in as well.
28:27
For all that. I don't care about that, but
28:30
somebody does somebody is probably enjoying enjoying it.
28:34
That's their their thing. You guys are enjoying decor
28:36
duel, somebody else is enjoying the ritual sites all one of them
28:39
that they can get to this week. And I think that all of that
28:46
required development time required eyes on that split them
28:50
a little bit wider too. So whereas the .5 patch like
28:58
let's say the .5 patch right after Undermine included, I
29:05
can't even remember what, but it definitely not this much.
29:08
Maybe narrow down as what you're offering as well so it doesn't
29:12
feel as overwhelming for Lex or people who are like looking at
29:19
that amount. Yeah, and I, I The thing is,
29:25
there's so much being offered, but none of it is deep, right.
29:29
Like I was complaining about the ritual sites.
29:32
I would probably love ritual sites if you it was not one, you
29:36
know, 10 minute run through a little not a world where I mean,
29:42
I know that like, yeah, that's very sorry.
29:46
I had like 20 thoughts at once that I tried to say all at the
29:48
same time. Turns out you can't do that.
29:51
I understand. Not with that attitude anyway.
29:54
I'll. I'll try harder next time.
29:56
I understand the concept that it's, you know, it's like heroic
29:58
visions. And we did only have one of
30:00
those at a time. But that also had a lot you
30:02
could build on. And it was pretty complex the
30:05
way that you could manage things.
30:08
The Nagas is like kill three people, kill another three
30:10
people, kill a guy, kill a guy, kill a bigger guy, right?
30:15
It, it feels so samey that it, it's hard for me to want to get
30:19
into it multiple times. Like I said, I, I, I don't feel
30:25
like I, the void assaults were explained in a way that I can
30:28
feel like I can dig my fingers into it.
30:32
Yeah, I feel like they have. They've bitten off more than
30:34
they can chew in an attempt to say I, I haven't tried the
30:37
Anglers. Maybe that's great.
30:38
Maybe that's perfect. That's what we should all be
30:39
doing right now. Not from what I've heard.
30:43
From the audio cue, Sean was vigorously shaking his head no.
30:48
Yeah, if you really liked Vashir and Cataclysm, I'm told if you
30:53
really, really enjoyed the underwater aspects of that zone,
30:56
then you will probably like Abyssal Anglers.
30:58
But if you found that to be frustrating, maybe stick to
31:02
Decor Hunt or Decor Duel. Yeah, and I I, I felt I was
31:06
going to whine a few episodes ago about the fact that they
31:09
talked up the like, we're getting these cool rewards for
31:13
housing Decor every time you kill a bot like a raid boss.
31:16
And they're these ugly little like it, it, it, it does kind of
31:20
feel like there's a lot of stuff that they feel like they have to
31:23
give us and they don't really have the time for it.
31:26
So they're like, I don't do the statue of Illyria.
31:28
Cool. That's what you guys wanted when
31:30
you said you got a trophy at the end of rain, Right.
31:34
So and maybe other people love the ugly little statues, in
31:37
which case good for you. But it, yeah, I, I, I would so
31:41
much rather slower release cycles with a, a deeper dig into
31:47
the things that we're excited about because I was really
31:49
excited about .5. And to be fair, I'm having a
31:51
great time with Decor Duel. But I was so excited about the
31:54
Void assault and I was so excited about the ritual sights
31:56
and I I'm just not enjoying it as much as I thought I would.
32:02
I'm just tired of having to rebuild my UI every time they
32:05
push something. I mean I cool, at least I don't
32:08
have computational weak cores telling me where to stand on
32:10
boss fights. That's awesome.
32:12
But it would be nice if I could also see my debuffs from one day
32:16
to the next. That would be cool as well.
32:20
I'm really, really deeply unhappy.
32:25
I'd like for it to be better, please.
32:28
Just like it's easy to say, take longer, take 10 weeks, figure it
32:32
out. And I know I like to think that
32:36
the three of us anyway, you know, if they came out and said
32:39
the next one's not coming for 10 weeks or it's going to be 12
32:42
weeks, that we would be OK with it.
32:44
I like to think that we would say, OK, yeah, cool, get it
32:47
right. But I, I also know that large
32:50
part of the sweaty frothing masses would then start to moan
32:55
and cry and piss blood and say, oh, it's there's no content.
32:58
There's nothing to do. And it's, I honestly am so glad
33:01
I'm not a debt for this game because the community that plays
33:04
it is not the fast community. Our listeners are lovely, but
33:09
there is a large portion of the community that should be
33:11
launched into the sun because they're just.
33:14
Awful people. If you're ever feeling bored and
33:16
you don't have enough content, just FYI, there's like 2 million
33:19
novels and they're like pretty cheap.
33:21
You can get them on thriftbooks.com.
33:23
I, I don't I, I don't know why I'm incapable of talking about
33:25
thrift books without sounding like I am getting a sponsored ad
33:29
Thrift book. Thrift books, please sponsor me.
33:31
I love you so much. I will talk about you every
33:33
single episode. But you can get most of them for
33:35
like $5 on thriftbooks.com. So what's thriftbooks.com?
33:39
Thriftbooks.com It's. Basically, no, no, no, we're not
33:41
actually doing the ad. Thank you.
33:46
That's. It I actually wanted.
33:49
To know No, you can. You can ask afterwards.
33:50
It'll be in the after show. OK, Manny's sponsored by their
33:56
by their competitor expensive books.com Little known fact,
34:04
Manny is a part owner of Kindle. Every time Lex manages Thrift
34:08
Books measures Thrift Books, he starts to fight.
34:11
I do think that there are a number of things that can be
34:16
improved by having some downtime.
34:18
Like, yes, it's nice to like have something to look forward
34:22
to, but part of what helps you look forward to something is
34:27
having a little time to like Clare up the other stuff that
34:31
you wanted to work on, be able to like get away from your
34:34
computer because you haven't finished finished raid and now
34:40
you've got to go do this upgrade.
34:42
And in two weeks time, that's the when they're going to
34:45
unleash the like upgrades for trinkets and and weapons.
34:48
Actually, I think that's only one week.
34:49
Sorry, John. One week or two?
34:51
Four weeks? 4 weeks.
34:53
Yeah, to get your upgrades to weapons and trinkets.
34:57
Turbo boosters 4 weeks away. So halfway to the .7 patch,
35:01
Yeah, OK, great. No, that that's the dumbest,
35:08
stupidest shit they they could do.
35:10
Like I said ages ago, that I don't want to feel forced to
35:15
come back to this game for whatever mechanism they want to
35:19
throw in that says hey you guys come play again.
35:23
I know that the guys who do the development don't care about
35:29
like your active multiple users. They just want to make a fun
35:33
experience. Guys, I want to go touch some
35:35
grass at some point. Like I don't need to log in
35:38
every single day because there is the next daily and you guys
35:43
changed it from that. Similarly, you don't need to
35:48
force people back. Like, thank goodness there's no
35:51
Mac guffin belt ring stick up somebody's thing that that we
35:57
need to in order to to make us stronger.
36:01
Oh, Sean, you're about to tell me.
36:03
Yeah, yet. We don't know what's coming in
36:04
the .7 batch. I said in this batch.
36:07
Max specifically asked them will the loot in the one boss raid be
36:11
a higher item level to carry us into 12.1 and they said we're
36:14
not ready to talk about that yet.
36:16
It will certainly be exactly what you're saying you don't
36:19
want it to be OK. All right.
36:24
Well, Sean, you, you, you take over.
36:25
I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to take a little break.
36:28
No, I'm not. I'm just letting you.
36:30
I just want to listen. I like this version of Manny.
36:32
I think this version of Manny is my favorite version of Manny.
36:35
But I just wanted to let you know that you can really fuel
36:39
that rage that you're feeling right now.
36:42
You were at risk of it dissipating.
36:44
I'm helping. You're welcome.
36:47
All yours. Well, it's a buggy mess.
36:53
Don't don't launch it like this. That's the solution.
36:56
Tell the tell the players, hey, you got to wait.
36:59
We're not ready. Sorry, we're delaying it.
37:01
Tell your bosses, tell the people at the top saying it has
37:03
to launch at this time. It can't go live like this
37:06
because the fans, the players are going to land based it.
37:10
It's going to be awful. It's going to be people tweeting
37:12
for hours. It's please don't make us push
37:15
this live. Whoever makes it like just just
37:18
don't It Just don't. Are you guys on one of your Subs
37:23
or six months Subs? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:27
And then I keep getting game time, so it just keeps getting
37:30
pushed. Yeah, that's basically it.
37:32
Maybe time to stop doing that. Like when they put something out
37:35
that is garbage, maybe it's time to cancel the sub and that that
37:41
that will let them go back to their, their bean counters or
37:46
whatever and say we can't launch like this cause long as the
37:50
money keeps flowing and the content seems to it caused
37:54
people to do that. The what was causing people to
37:56
like unsub? Where was the content drought?
37:58
So now we'll give you something every eight weeks, even if it's
38:02
slop, right? Like what we need AI in in this
38:06
before people will say like I guess I should like.
38:08
Don't say that Blizzard will do it.
38:12
Well, I mean like what everybody's saying like oh, 12.0
38:16
was fine, but 12.05 is bad. It's like we had a allied race
38:21
with like the least amount of story or anything that got
38:24
dropped in that armor didn't fit properly.
38:28
People complaining about the entire UI overhaul and all the
38:32
weak cores of which we still haven't reached the end of to a
38:36
satisfactory end. And now we're getting more bugs
38:39
piled on top of it. Right?
38:41
Like if Sean quits tomorrow, I'm not going to try and tell him to
38:45
stop. I'm going to be like, I hope you
38:47
can get your money back. I would like to offer something.
38:55
First of all, I love that Manny is where I was three weeks into
38:59
the beta. This is we've it's I feel like
39:02
we've met somewhere in the middle now.
39:04
This is great. I'm not happy that you're sad,
39:05
Manny. I don't want you to take this
39:07
that I'm happy that you're sad, but I am happy that you are
39:10
being I I feel like you're when you're critical, I think it
39:15
holds more weight because you're so middle of the road most of
39:18
the time. Like when I say critical things,
39:20
people are like, Oh yeah, it's Sean.
39:21
He's kind of a curmudgeon, a bit of a Dick.
39:24
But when and when Lex has stuff that's critical, people are
39:26
like, Lex is a wild card. You never know if she's going to
39:29
be like super happy or not know how to assaults work.
39:32
That's but you. You're like the you're our
39:35
steady. You're our steady.
39:36
Level to point out that as of today, I am the only member for
39:39
Aspiroth has not called for people to quit on the show.
39:44
That's true. It's true.
39:47
I have a fun thing to suggest. Manny, you mentioned the Heroner
39:50
Heroner and people are up in arms that the Heroner have so
39:54
many racial optimizations to the way that they look.
39:57
And then we have all these other races that have been with the
39:58
game forever and why are we not doing the same for them?
40:00
And I, I came up with a solution this week that I think satisfies
40:05
everyone. I believe that we should take
40:09
the same approach to race customizations that we take to
40:14
class balancing and. Nerf the Heronier.
40:18
I know everybody's like, why don't we just buff everyone
40:20
else? Why don't we buff all the other?
40:21
I think instead of raising the level of customization in other
40:25
classes, we should cut some of the Heronier's race.
40:28
Cut some out. We gotta.
40:29
I apologize, I'm I'm not following.
40:31
Are you being facetious? Are you like?
40:35
I'm obviously making a joke. I'm.
40:38
Just just just wanted to be clear.
40:39
Just wanted to be clear on this. You don't have to worry about
40:42
how many customizations your race has if you're a cute little
40:45
wine glass. I think that they have at times
40:53
been adding in customizations as they've gone.
40:56
We got those customizations for Demon Hunters before that.
41:00
We got some additional customization for a few races
41:03
with like some hair colours and and so forth.
41:06
So they throw them in there and they're not waiting for some
41:08
big, big revamp. They're just hey, like, hey,
41:12
look, here's an additional thing.
41:13
Here's an additional thing, as we do this battle between the
41:18
Army of the Light and the Void and all of that, if they do more
41:23
things that show like characters that are playable races, they
41:31
can easily throw that back into the actual playable races
41:35
themselves. So when we get to Rathi,
41:39
hopefully there's more customization for elves and for
41:41
humans and for coltarians, because that's the ones that
41:45
they were pretty much based off. When we got the original Rathi,
41:48
we got the half elves and shorter elves and longer elves
41:53
for a bunch of things. So it's already a thing that
41:56
they're doing. So I don't like yes, the hair
41:59
and are came out with a suite of options which showed us that the
42:02
bar can be that much higher. Good, now let's get everybody
42:06
else up there. Much like Sean was facetiously
42:08
saying. But apparently the number of
42:12
options that your race has is inversely related to whether or
42:16
not you can wear clothes. So bear in mind, if you want to
42:20
be like the heart of your, you can't wear clothes.
42:23
If that were true, mecanomes would be so tricked out it would
42:28
be ridiculous. They would have offenders coming
42:31
out of their fenders. I want to put a PlayStation in
42:36
my mechadome. Is that possible?
42:37
Can we do that? No, only Xbox Live.
42:45
Well played, Sir, Well played. That's the patch, man.
42:50
It's been, it's been rough. There's more bugs we've not
42:52
mentioned. There's all kinds of stuff going
42:54
on. There's small bugs, there's big
42:55
bugs. There's just.
42:56
Things that are wrong. But I do I do want to give a
43:02
shout out to one of our Discord members and one of our listeners
43:06
because I genuinely think this is the funniest thing I've ever
43:09
read. I'm just going to read you a
43:10
quote from the for Azure at Discord.
43:11
You can read it yourself. You could have been there when
43:14
it happened if you joined bit dot LY slash faz Discord.
43:17
But one of our one of our listeners, let me find it.
43:23
Is it here? No.
43:26
Is it here? Is it the one in the recording
43:29
at here? Live recording time, Kids, we
43:31
love you. Come talk 12 point O5 with us.
43:33
Yeah. You can for sure.
43:34
No, it's not that one. It's so from Lord Nathan Miakis.
43:40
Or is it Maya Kiss? You know, I have, I actually
43:42
have no idea, but he said they're only bugs if they come
43:45
from the bug region of Metaverse.
43:47
Otherwise they're just sparkling malfunctions.
43:52
And that gave me such a chuckle. Yeah, such a juggle.
44:01
While some things are going to take longer to deal with, I do
44:06
suspect that we will see a number of fixes coming with the
44:08
weekly reset, especially the major ones that are that require
44:16
like downtime. I actually suspect we'll get a
44:18
probably another downtime sometime this week to address
44:21
some of them and hot fixes for others.
44:23
There's no way they let holy priests languish like they are.
44:28
And so while this initial launch is rough, hopefully it'll go.
44:34
It'll be a better. I don't know if we'll be done
44:38
everything that we want to do so that we can get around to doing
44:43
even like the abyss, the abyss anglers.
44:48
The transmog is definitely a draw for for many, as Sean is
44:56
definitely illustrating, and the fact is that if you are not
45:02
interested in some of the stuff, it is utterly skippable.
45:07
Even if it does benefit you gear wise, there are other avenues
45:10
that you can do so. You can get the gear through The
45:13
Dells, which I am still enjoying.
45:16
You can go do Prey, which is incredibly quick to do even when
45:20
people are fighting over traps. Like my God guys, get off my
45:24
traps we'll go to war mode so that that's not as bad and I am
45:32
still enjoying raid progress. I have cut myself down back to 1
45:37
character and and pushing through and that's allowing me
45:40
to like pursue some other goals both outside the game and even
45:45
within the game. I do want to try and like see if
45:48
I can get close to one 1% even if I don't do it this season,
45:52
just getting in the like groove to do that will help my success
45:57
next season. And so I'm excited to excited to
46:01
do that, excited to like really get back to elemental, which I'm
46:05
playing now. So there's there's there's good
46:09
things in the game. Despite the fact that this
46:11
episode has been overwhelmingly Lex coded.
46:15
I'm joking. Sorry Lex, that was.
46:17
You should be catching strays like that.
46:19
It's only Alabama Lex who's this negative, as all Alabamans are
46:23
known to be. Wow.
46:25
It's a carryover from it's because of her.
46:28
It's just a carryover from their proximity to Nick Saban.
46:30
It's not their fault. Who?
46:32
On God's Earth is Nick Saban. It's everybody from Alabama
46:37
knows, so it's OK. Did you do like some deep
46:41
research cuts? What's Alabama for?
46:43
It was for definitely not origins.
46:46
He's their he's the he's the former head football coach of
46:49
their university team. OK.
46:52
Oh Yep, Yep, they Alabamians probably will know that they
46:55
love the Roll Tide. Whatever, I don't know.
46:59
Yeah, they're all screaming at their radios right now.
47:01
You don't know who Nick Saban is.
47:03
Best college football coach of all time after he screwed the
47:07
Dolphins. Sorry, I have some Nick Saban
47:10
hate as a Dolphins fan. Yeah, got it.
47:14
OK, did you guys get any fix fixes for your class?
47:20
Was everything rolling OK? Like I know we just talked about
47:24
how holy had that like grease like Reevus wound with the with
47:31
them, but like for elemental no changes.
47:36
Enhancement got like the smallest change where we get to
47:40
sorry, there are three changes and two of them don't count. 1
47:47
we get to stack our healing buff up to 20 from 10.
47:51
So now, so now we can get like 2 instance heals stacked and
47:56
ready. The two that don't count is that
47:59
they they change the names of them so that raging raging
48:05
Maelstrom is now overflowing Maelstrom, and Overflowing
48:08
Maelstrom is Raging Maelstrom just because it sounds better
48:11
anyways. Mm hmm.
48:16
I wouldn't. It's fine.
48:18
It makes it makes more sense that the healing one is
48:20
overflowing with the water, with the water being in the healing
48:24
thing. So like and you're not going to
48:27
look, the icons look the same, you're not going to care about
48:30
the name as you're playing. That that is a fairpoint that if
48:32
you asked me to name 90% of my spells, I would not be able to
48:36
do it. But if you showed me a little
48:37
picture, I'd know exactly when I use it and exactly where it is
48:40
on my keyboard. There you go.
48:42
So if you're wondering why your strafe doesn't work anymore this
48:45
since this patch went live, it's because we fixed the shamans to
48:48
be more thematic. Yeah, exactly.
48:54
I mean and and then Resto got an 8% buff on its healing and and
48:58
damage. 8% healing, 30% on damage single target.
49:02
Yeah, it's really good for resto.
49:04
Resto shaman stonks are rising. Yeah, I don't think they were.
49:08
Like the tides? They were horrible.
49:10
I think they just absolutely were missing a a niche.
49:15
And so there was always something that did it better.
49:18
Whatever you were bringing them to, there was always something
49:21
that did it better. So now I guess just give them
49:23
straight throughput so that they can compete with like they can
49:26
compete better. Yeah, yeah.
49:29
There was there was some bursty stuff in really high keys, some
49:32
single target healing that they were struggling with.
49:34
They're falling behind Magisters Terrace especially is is a
49:37
pretty bad one in there, especially with those healing
49:39
absorbs go on. So they were in in high keys,
49:42
they were struggling to keep up with that.
49:43
So it's they needed it there. Yeah.
49:46
Good for them to have Professor Thomas Pratt Pratt Warriors
49:50
mostly status quo. There was a change that they
49:51
were going to make that they decided not to make.
49:53
So a non nerf is a buff so to speak.
49:59
And Lex is broken. Literally actually broken right
50:01
now. So are you playing havoc?
50:03
Are you playing Devourer? Havoc Devourer, Yeah.
50:07
Sorry, Core Havoc Demon Hunter. Like, I don't think I could play
50:11
anything else in the World of Warcraft because now I've just
50:14
seen myself in a character so deeply that I, you, you
50:19
couldn't, I wouldn't be doing anything else.
50:21
And I'm like, why can't I backflip?
50:22
Why can't I backflip? I need to backflip.
50:25
I, I, I play inertia builds in mythic plus, which I, I'm sure
50:29
that my tank wants to strangle me because I always make them
50:33
pull the entire room because I need to be able to backflip and
50:36
then foul rush in because otherwise I can't do my damage.
50:38
And I know I could just turn off my inertia build, but I also
50:42
couldn't. I think it would actually kill
50:44
me if I tried to play havoc Demon Hunter without inertia
50:46
belt on. I am really happy that you like
50:53
the inertia build because I hated the inertia build so much
50:57
that I switched my Demon Hunter to vengeance and never looked
51:02
back. It was just dude.
51:06
It's so fun man. Go ahead, Manny.
51:09
Sorry. Yeah, yeah.
51:11
It just it, it was revolting to me.
51:15
I love it, Manny. I, I, I, I think I might be the
51:18
one person who so deeply loves inertia on Havoc Demon Hunter.
51:23
And I, you will not get me off of it.
51:25
And I swear to God, Faz Dev, I don't care if every single other
51:30
player in the world says they hate inertia.
51:31
I need you to keep inertia tuned up because I have to do it.
51:35
It's so fun. Lex, is it weird for you to be
51:40
getting 100 parses? I assume you're the only person
51:43
still playing havoc this season, so therefore all your parses by
51:47
default must be 100. Is that?
51:49
Do you find that weird? Well, that's.
51:52
Weird, I think you have to fight Still 100.
51:54
It's the opposite where they're like, oh, we don't know what to
51:56
you buy? And that's why they give me
51:58
great parses, because they what else?
52:00
Would they do? Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
52:04
I mean I tried demonology, was loving demonology, but
52:09
demonology no longer has the double interrupt anymore so
52:13
that's not as OP and keys affliction didn't get any
52:18
changes so supposedly it's doing OK.
52:21
That's just like affliction, I feel is has been in the same
52:26
spot as enhancement where it's single target and damage outside
52:30
its burst windows has been lacking.
52:34
And while enhancement has been getting like little bit of love
52:37
every so often, affliction is just being left to languish and
52:41
it just feels feels real bad friends.
52:45
But you know, the demo's ridiculous and they had they had
52:49
to like do something about it. And even still with like the
52:52
changes that they've made, it's still incredibly strong.
52:57
I'm just doubly shaman. So I'm going to go chase the 1%
53:00
on on the shaman still John, you still in love with?
53:05
Well, sorry, I know you main on the Druid in EU and you're
53:09
remaining on the Warrior in NA. Any of your other my?
53:14
Side My side chick is a prop paladin.
53:16
OK. And has that gotten a little
53:18
love? Is it?
53:19
Is it a little more shine on that Holi?
53:22
Yeah, they got some. They noticed that Prop Paladin
53:25
was struggling with survival in high keys, specifically on
53:27
periodic damage and magic damage, so they buffed all of
53:30
its damage. OK, all of it's.
53:33
Damaged. But like so, no, no.
53:36
No, wait, wait. It's doing more damage, but it
53:38
was struggling taking damage. Survive yes, that's correct.
53:42
Yeah, it was. And the the blue notes the the
53:44
the patch notes specifically said we've noticed the prop
53:48
paladin is struggling with periodic damage and magic damage
53:52
received, so these fixes are targeted at making that better.
53:57
And it was damage muffs. To like the Apex talent because
54:01
I know they like took out the mastery and threw it into the
54:04
Apex talent. Well the mastery was our mastery
54:09
got gutted when they detached consecrate from it, so it's
54:11
basically useless now, but there's no reason.
54:15
Paladin used to be like hard stack haste mastery until you
54:18
hit break points for 100% spell block, but you can't get that
54:20
anymore. So now it's take as little
54:22
mastery as possible and hard stack haste grit first.
54:27
Yeah, that was what I think They changed one node to give us more
54:34
block, more spell block, I think it was.
54:36
And then the rest of it was like, no joke, That pagenote
54:38
literally said, we know you're struggling for survival.
54:42
Here's some and we're going to fix that.
54:44
Here's some. Because if you think about it,
54:47
Manny, you got to use the noggin.
54:49
You'd use the noodle. I I usually look at things in
54:53
context, but I'm missing this one, so go.
54:55
Ahead, Wrinkly. Play Manny.
54:57
It's 100% damage reduction from the next attack of a dead mob.
55:03
So you buff the damage, you buff the damage, you kill the mob
55:08
faster, you take less damage. Like if there was any kind of
55:12
conversion like Discipline Priests, I would be like, OK,
55:15
with a damage buff that would then increase your
55:19
survivability. But yeah, yeah, wait, we're
55:24
going to get some like feedback to the.
55:27
Blue note, I'm sorry one last this is it.
55:29
This is the last thing the blue notes they they released that
55:32
that thing, the big post talking about decor duels, every single
55:37
piece of information and it was wrong right from the very first
55:42
paragraph where it called it a 5V5 event.
55:44
It's 7 on 7. The costs posted for all of the
55:51
items, the decor and the toys, and the trans mugs were two PTR
55:59
cycles out of date. Cheaper.
56:06
More the ones they posted were more expensive.
56:08
It is cheaper than any post. But think about remember how
56:11
like right at the beginning everyone was like, oh, the moral
56:13
costs or things are crazy. So they decided to slash all the
56:16
moral costs. Do you think that's another
56:19
thing that they forgot to to mirror on the 12 point O 5 in
56:22
terms of like, hey, like if this is what we've made as like small
56:28
things instead of costing 750 mile costs 150 mile and they
56:33
didn't mirror that on their PTR. But the, no, the PTR was up to
56:37
date. It was the post, the blue, like
56:40
the patch descriptor of it that had the old costs.
56:45
So on the PTR it was like these cost 150 and the post was like,
56:48
these cost 750. Once they were 750 and then they
56:52
were 300 and now they're 150. So you're like 2.
56:55
It's, I mean, it's great 'cause like the sticker shock is like,
56:57
oh, so I don't want to pay. That's a way too expensive.
56:59
And you get into the store itself and it's cheaper by twice
57:02
and you're like, let's go on making savings.
57:04
Yeah, it's a it's a steal. It's a steal of anchoring
57:07
pricing. They think listen has got us.
57:10
We thought this was all of them making mistakes.
57:12
They've they've seen. They're playing 40 chess.
57:15
They are the jailer. Do we think the way that this
57:20
expansion is going, I think you're right.
57:24
Do we anticipate? Anyway, this is all speculation,
57:27
but do we think this is the same?
57:28
Like whatever outsourcing mess was going on in their like early
57:34
drops of midnight where it was extraordinarily obvious that
57:37
every single thing they put in front of me was written by
57:39
somebody who would never in their entire life played a video
57:42
game. Or do we think they just whoever
57:45
did it was moving too fast, didn't have accurate news?
57:49
So they specifically, I had the opportunity to speak to two of
57:53
the devs for the core duels and it was a 5V5 event on PTR
57:59
specifically for the reason that they didn't think they would get
58:03
14 people queuing up to test it. So they dropped it to 5V5
58:07
because they thought 10 was a reasonable number.
58:10
So my assumption is that whoever wrote the article didn't know
58:15
that. Yes, they're basing off PTR.
58:16
OK, that makes sense. Yeah, but that means there was
58:20
no internal communication to say, hey, we're going to post
58:23
this article explaining this new feature that's coming out.
58:25
Is there anything that we should change that we've written here?
58:29
Or is there any information we should get out of the like it's
58:31
at least have a saying in the Navy every time is like the
58:35
first time is that. What made you quit the Navy?
58:38
I think I. It is what made me quit the
58:40
Navy. It is what made me one of the
58:42
things that might be. Said I'm being smart, but I
58:45
think you said it last episode, so I don't think I'm as smart as
58:48
like they got. Oh yeah, that's right, that's
58:52
right. Every time is like the first
58:53
time, man. It doesn't matter how many
58:55
patches we've launched, it doesn't matter how much
58:57
information we've given, it doesn't matter how many times we
58:59
find bugs and report bugs that don't get fixed.
59:01
And it also on the flip side doesn't matter how many good
59:04
patches they launch cause the player base will never remember
59:06
those. Every time is like the first
59:08
time. 12 point 0.7 will be exactly like today you mean.
59:12
They're going to give me decor tool again.
59:14
Yeah, you're getting decor. Oh my.
59:16
God, this would be the greatest day of my life.
59:19
But in the next 1, the props hunt, the hunters wait.
59:22
That would be so sick. Are you kidding?
59:24
Me, I actually, yeah. That would actually be kind of
59:26
cool if it was reversed and like you went too close to somebody
59:29
and they jumped out at you because they were the prop.
59:32
Yeah, yeah, I pitched that when I spoke to them.
59:34
They said we're going to write that down.
59:36
It's a Halloween idea. I think we should just here this
59:38
will fix all the problem. Give up on World of Warcraft the
59:41
video game turn into World of Warcraft Decor dual.
59:43
All you do is decor dual all day long.
59:45
I'll be so happy as long as you let me backflip and then
59:48
celebration. With it I'm down, but only if we
59:51
let the world first race teams develop weak cores to make it
59:54
easier. But only if you have an in house
59:56
coder. That's it if.
59:57
You don't have an in house coder.
59:58
You're not allowed to play anymore.
1:00:00
That's right, yeah. Well, I do want to say that
1:00:06
after the show, we did find out that sorry, after the show last
1:00:11
week, we did find out that the AWC does need to whitelist
1:00:17
particular add-ons. So like that issue is not an
1:00:21
issue that's going to show up at the AWC unless somebody tries to
1:00:25
do pull a fast one at which one I think they'd get disqualified.
1:00:29
Yeah, you. Have to be really slow in the
1:00:31
AWC. You're not allowed to.
1:00:32
And the the MDI is out MDI as well, also the same thing, yeah.
1:00:39
So the next time that we will see the power of an in house
1:00:45
coder is going to be the next raid in 12 point O .7 and
1:00:49
hopefully they will do better there because I would still like
1:00:53
to play with Sean in 12.1 and the same mistakes happening all
1:00:58
the time will not sit well with him he.
1:01:02
Promised he'd leave. Not that I can hold you to that,
1:01:05
Sean, if you wanna. If.
1:01:06
He also promised he'd eat his hat, so, you know, we'll see.
1:01:09
I So Anjali and I are moving to PEI and up until six days ago,
1:01:18
yeah, six days ago, one of the requirements was we have to move
1:01:22
to an area that has access to high speed Internet.
1:01:24
Six days ago I said to her, it's OK if where we move only has
1:01:28
satellite Internet. OK, we'll see what happens.
1:01:34
I'm I'm sure Angelina knows you enough to like wait until you
1:01:38
repeat something multiple times. She immediately she immediately
1:01:44
sent me 6 houses that I fell in love with.
1:01:46
So one of them is 130 year old farm with a giant barn and I
1:01:52
love it. It's got 18 acres and beautiful
1:01:55
2020 apple trees on one side, 200 Raspberry bushes on the
1:01:59
other. We will see where you end up,
1:02:04
and we will see where the World of Warcraft ends up.
1:02:07
But until next time guys, may all your hits be quits.