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A Little Patience · Boundary Corner Podcast

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The. And welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner podcast. Along with my partners, Brian
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Sieglen, Jonathan Talley, I am Curtis Wilson.
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We are part of the College Huddle Network and we are
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pharmacy, three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg.
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Welcome back, gentlemen, to the new year.
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New year, everybody. New Year's same me.
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I'm just here. I don't know if I'm the old me,
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the new me, somewhere in between.
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Yeah, it's been. I started a new job the day
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after New Year's. I guess that.
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That could. That could.
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Technically, be fun. That is fun.
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We I had we had hell week last week down here in Richmond, man
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Tally got to hear all about power going out, Internet going
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out. Brian can't take showers.
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We got bowl water. I had to.
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Build snow so I could flush my toilets.
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That's crazy. We got apocalyptic down here for
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a couple. Days.
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That's crazy. It was wild, man.
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I mean, what happens when it snows in the South and then it
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doesn't warm up the next two days afterwards?
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Yeah. And your water plant has a
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catastrophic failure, you know. Yeah.
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Wow, that happened. We had some snow for one day,
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but it wasn't, it didn't get bad.
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So you know, it's like one day and even like it.
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The day before I walked outside and I had short sleeves on.
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I was like, it's like 50° out here.
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This ain't this is going to be crazy.
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And then the next day, like I go to sleep and wake up, it's like
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6 inches of snow. Oh yeah, well the whole thing
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is, did y'all have the day after the snow it got warm again.
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Yeah, then I was going to say the next day it was just like,
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my wife is in healthcare, so they had already told him like,
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you can't miss work, It's going to snow.
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We know for a fact it's snowing. You need to be at work.
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So this was just say like a Thursday, she had to get a hotel
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room, her and another lady that she works, we got a hotel room
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that's close to the hospital. So she had to stay there.
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And then the next night she works at, she helps out at a
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retirement home that's close to the home to our house.
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And I was telling, I was like, Hey, you can come home.
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I'll come get you. Because we got a, a group around
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here, a Wrangler group called the rocket City Wranglers.
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Shout out to them. And during stuff like that, they
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just get out. It's like, I don't know, maybe
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fifty of them. And you can book them and
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they'll come get you and, you know, take you to the store if
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they need to. But they definitely help with
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the healthcare workers. So they was getting the, getting
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the nurses to and from home if they needed to.
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And I told her I was like, you can come home.
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It's not going to be bad. She's like, I'm it's, it's a big
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hill and I'm going to just go ahead and stay.
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So she ended up staying at the retirement home the next night
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and woke up and it's nothing. It's like a dust, a dust
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outside. But you just never know in
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Alabama, man. When you get some ice and snow,
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The main thing is these fuckers can't drive.
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Like I don't try to drive. I'm, I'm these fuckers as well.
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Like I don't try to drive in it. But you got some people because
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Huntsville is so crazy and people are from like all over.
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They come here and they're like, Oh, I grew up in this.
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And then they, they don't realize that the roads ain't set
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up the same way as if you came from the north or, you know,
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they, they, they don't come in ice.
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I mean, they don't come salt the roads and things like that.
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So you get people sliding all over the place.
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Yeah, I like what you said right there.
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You might have driven it elsewhere, but the roads down
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here was not made for you to be snowed in and attempting to
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drive on it. So that's the good pieces, but.
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They're not treated properly. They're not built that way.
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It's not. It's not designed for that type
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of traversal. It is not designed, but you
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know, we're back to reality. We're back to somewhat normal
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January now and it has been a little over two weeks since we
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all got together in person. Obviously we can.
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We we, we pretty much just talk everyday via message, sometimes
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phone call here they so we're always communicating.
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But we got a lot to unload because since that point in
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time, we had the bowl game, tons of portal stuff.
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No new coaches let's we won't get into that in a little while.
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But let's start off with the the news that broke this afternoon.
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I'm sure y'all all saw it. A huge congratulation as Michael
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Vick will be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame
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this year. Definitely well worth it.
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I, I didn't even know he was on the ballot personally so I
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didn't and it just popped up. I think I saw Andy Bitter and it
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was like Michael's Hall of Famer.
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Like, yes, he should be a Hall of Famer without a doubt.
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Right. It's like when you go and I,
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I'll talk to my son about some stuff and you got so many
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different errors and something. If you put somebody in a sports
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era and you remove them or they, they play in a sports area and
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you remove them from that era, does it change the game?
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You know, does it their, you know, their, their career, what
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they've done? Did it have an impact from the
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game? It changes the game.
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And when you think about Michael Vick and what he did in the
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game, like even outside the game, the culture that he
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created outside of the game changed everything.
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You go to basketball, you think about AI like they change rules.
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There's like, oh, we got to dress up because we don't like
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the way he dressed on the sidelines.
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I mean, AI had little white boys with their hair braided.
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Like it's just when you have somebody that impacts the game
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like that, like, come on, man. And then they got stats to go
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with it. You got to be a Hall of Famer.
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Nothing else to talk about. So don't get no crazy ideas.
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None of you crazy people out there that say the man don't
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deserve it because he do. I'm going to leave it at that.
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Brian, what you think? Yeah.
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I mean, this has been to me a long time coming.
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I mean, if we're looking at just the 99 team alone, I mean, it's
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it's really, yeah, I'm shocked. He's the third induction from
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the 99 team and not the at least the second.
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Corey Moore really being the only other one that you could
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say from a college football impact, might, might have had an
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equal or greater impact during his time in Blacksburg and
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during his time playing college football.
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Obviously, when we talk about Michael Vick's legacy, we're
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talking about a legacy that does transcend college football.
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But Tally, to your point, you know, what Mike did at
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quarterback at Virginia Tech, it definitely had an impact on the
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game. It changed the way I think a lot
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of people viewed the quarterback position and what it could be
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from a combination of athletic ability and arm talent.
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Right. And so I think it's well
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deserved. And Curtis, I'm I'm gonna pitch
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it to you, man. What you think?
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Well, I mean, like you said, it's it's a long time coming and
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where you see what Michael Vick is the effects of what we see
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now take a look this weekend, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson and I
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know Josh Allen's white, but Josh Allen, big athletic kid,
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fast, strong arm. They're super athletic
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quarterbacks. And that was Michael.
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Before Michael, though, no one had like the arm.
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And when I say the arm, Michael could make every throw.
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Michael knew how to do touch. Michael could throw bombs.
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I'm still the prettiest ball I've ever seen.
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And this is him in the NFL. Was that bomb to DeSean Jackson
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from the two skins? Oh my God.
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Or somebody Andre Davis stuff. He just he flips it his legacy.
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It's it's now 25 years, 26 years, Lord have mercy later.
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It is now a direct impact on the entire game of football, the
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entire game of football. And it's well deserved and so
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glad for him. You know, huge Congrats, Michael
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Vick out there. Dwight, I forgot to text you
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today when I saw it. I'll text you later to say
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Congrats so you can pass that on and, and good for him with the
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coaching job. Just, you know, one of those
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great things. So really happy for him.
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Real quick, let's flip to something else before we hit the
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Mayo ball. Do y'all believe we won two
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basketball games in a row? Pretty good want to get some
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some solid competition one against, you know, I'd say NC
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State's kind of a a mid level to kind of low, you know, lower end
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of the ACC. But at the same time, you know,
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when we were looking at this roster, we were like two, maybe
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3 ACC wins total. And, you know, you're kind of
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already hitting that, you know, this early in January and.
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They hit it. I didn't watch a game tonight.
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I thought it was. Going to be a very long ACC
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regular season so. I've only watched one.
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I've only watched one game and that was enough for me.
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I said I ain't watching none of this shit.
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Like I just thought it was going to be super bad.
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And it again, I go back and forth with people online all the
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time and I never said Mike Young can't coach because he can't
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Like, he is a old school coach. He knows what he's doing.
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He can coach. But my thing on him is the
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retaining of talent. To get to the top of the ACC,
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you have to have big guards that can play defense, long guards
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that can shoot, you know, because when you got to think
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you're going to get most of the time UNC and Duke, and that's
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going to be, that's a rough go at it.
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You know, you can throw other teams in there as well.
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You know, I know Virginia's coach left, but Virginia always
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has a good team and you got to be able to have the talent to
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play with those teams. Just being able to coach a lot
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of time that can get you to that next level in the ACC.
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Maybe mid major shirt, but here it's tough.
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So shout out to Mike Young for his coaching job because he is a
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hell of a coach. I have to give him his props.
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I don't know if people think that I think he can't coach.
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He can coach. I just yeah, I just like I said
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that the talent in it, he's Got Talent.
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He has got it and I never said he hadn't got it.
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I think he can recruit pretty good, but it's the retaining of
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talent and people say Oh well, it's the NIL or is this this was
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happening before that. So he was in my opinion, but I
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didn't mean to go on that rant. No, I wanted to say that I
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respect Mike Young for what he does.
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When he gets, hey, he'll put some people out there and he can
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run some XS and OS and the dude can coach.
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I got to give him his props. But to your point tally is what
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you talk about the retaining and that's usually where the old
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school coaches lose it. It's in the offseason, it's
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wrong, and I'm sure, I'm sure Mike ain't no slouching the
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offseason running those guys through drills and shit.
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I'm sure you probably hammers them.
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And. We we're in a day and age, kids
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don't like that shit. It's easy to transfer.
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And so it's one of those things is for Mike Young because to be
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honest, he probably ain't going anywhere in the next three or
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four years. Just the way everything's set
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up. If, if, if you don't like Mike
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Young, you got to deal with him. But can he find somebody to
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bring in to almost smooth a little bit?
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Like Coach, we know you want to work on more, but you've got to
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you got to tone it down just a little bit so they don't leave,
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so you can carry over because as these guys learn your system.
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Why did he not bump off some people at Wofford?
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Those guys have been with him four and five years.
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They it was clockwork. They knew exactly what to do in,
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you know, you take somebody like Lawal, who's he that, that, that
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might be one of the most athletic kids that's ever played
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at Virginia Tech, straight up. Unbelievable.
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So just let's find my young an offseason guru that can help him
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not lose people, that's all. But I don't know if it's like,
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you know, I know his at times the system can be a little rigid
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for some guys that are a little bit better at creating their own
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shot and things like that. So I don't know if if some of
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that is what is chasing folks off.
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I don't know if to Curtis's point, some of the offseason
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stuff, I don't know if it's just, you know, new age and
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opportunities are presenting themselves.
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And I'm not talking about necessarily NIL, but I mean,
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with the transfer portal, you, you get to look at opportunities
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that may not have presented themselves when you committed to
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Virginia Tech and that may be where you wanted to be to begin
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with. So I mean, there, there's so
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many different, you know, things that open up for these kids now
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that just weren't possible, you know, even looking back 5-6
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years ago. So it's crazy.
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I don't know if that that's the biggest piece of it, whether
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it's the NIL piece or whether it's, you know, something
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related to, you know, the, the, the, the, the scheme or the
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offseason regiment that, that, that that team goes through.
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But we, we seem to turn, especially when it comes to
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guards. We, we, we turn through guards a
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lot more than and we shouldn't. I would like to see.
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And we shouldn't because his system with, with some of the
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the three-point shots and stuff like that, we, we shouldn't be
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losing guards. Right.
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I mean, really shouldn't, right? Let's roll on past that and
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let's talk about the mayonnaise bowl.
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Before we get into that, we got some, we got some folks joining
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us. Let's go ahead and throw some
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names up. Here.
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All right, Tom, up here then, man.
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Hey, we got. Andre Andre.
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Big weekend for him. Go birds.
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Andre, you still ain't played me in this game man, I've been I've
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been ready to catch you on this game for a while pop that gaming
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tag let's figure out what's going on that's.
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Right. Hey, we got we got Lavar in the
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house. Lavar, What's up, Lavar?
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Lavar in the house. Mile High.
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He said he wouldn't get video for a while.
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Am I? How you getting video now?
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You good? I did a check I I was able to
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pull it through on my end so it looks like everybody else is
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interacting so I'm guessing. Yeah, I think everybody good
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and. Everything's looking good, our
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man Chris. Mr. Lester's in the house.
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Congratulations to this man. Congratulations to you, got a
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baby on the way. Baby on the way.
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Why are y'all telling that man? Congratulations for that baby.
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You your life about to be healed.
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You should have left that baby. Where was that?
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Now I'm just playing, man. That's a blessing.
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It is a blessing for. Real.
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It is a blessing we got Jim up in here.
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Throw Jim's up there. We got Jim, Jim, Jim a couple
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comments here. That one right there, yeah, it
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is a hell of a class that he's going in with.
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And then, yeah, I I think the next one is true, Lee.
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So it should be in Hall of Fame. Lee.
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So it's going to elite running back.
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And that year he scored 2027. All right, 27 touchdowns.
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That's crazy. It's still crazy.
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Wow. Crazy.
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All right, well, let's flip it to the Mayo Bowl.
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Thank y'all. Keep the comments coming.
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Anything you want to chime in on 24/10?
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And I mean, this is the way I felt about it.
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We knew what it was going to be, right?
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We knew what it was going to be. You start looking who they had
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lead, who we had lead. We had a hell of a lot better
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players leave than they had left.
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They lost their tackle and their wide receiver and maybe one
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other offensive line. They had most of their defense
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intact. They had their quarterback
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intact. They had their lead running back
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intact. Not just quarterback intact,
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multi year starting. Quarterback multi year starting
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quarterback intact. I thought it was going to be 45
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to 7. I ain't going to lie to you.
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I didn't too, I was actually. I think I texted y'all after the
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game was like we only lost about 14 I think.
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The the, the problem that I had is that there were still some
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opportunities that we didn't capitalize on.
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Yeah. And I mean, I know we're going
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to talk about that in a little bit, but let's start with what
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went well, what did y'all like? And I mean, what was it?
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Was it mostly them, the young bucks showing out a little bit
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or what was it? Aiden Green or Brody Adams, I
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mean, you get to see what the next leaders in your in your
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wide receiver room. I know we bringing into a couple
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of wide receivers, but when you bring somebody in, you can say I
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need veteran leadership what you do.
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But you got to have people there that know what the culture is of
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what you're trying to build at your school.
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So even if you bring in a kid that's played football for five
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years, a college football, that's great, but he had some
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experience, but he doesn't have Blackbird Blacksburg experience,
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you know what I'm saying? That's the thing that you need.
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So when you see some of the young guys get in and I mean,
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Aiden look good. I don't know, man.
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Some people was hating on Aiden. Like I always thought Aiden was
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a baller, but some people was like, oh, Nah, man, he's not
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going to be that good. You know, you don't he this or
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he dropped. He has too many drops.
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That's what it was this year. He has too many drops and I'm
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like, you got to take some lumps, you know what I'm saying?
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Like he's he's a young player. He may seem old to us, but what
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is he? He's going to be a A junior, no?
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Richer sophomore. Cuz he richer.
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Sophomore. Yeah.
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He's richer. Sophomore.
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He played very little his first year.
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He played sparingly this year, right?
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A green, absolutely bald. I mean, you look at his, that's
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that line. I mean, he was the guy they were
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looking for. He was getting himself open and
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all that stuff. I tell you who else impressed
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me? The stat line isn't there, but
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we talked about looking for burst and cut.
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The freshman, Tyler Mason. Y'all see a couple of his runs
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where like you saw him, he fell in poop.
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It was just like, and he's the freshman.
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And he was running behind a ragtag line, he was running
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behind some, he was running behind me.
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And that ain't good. I felt.
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I tried to get up off the couch today, you know?
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I think some of those holes I could have, I could have opened
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up a little bit better. Yeah.
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Brian's like. And I'm 40 and and I'm probably.
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I ain't no lie to you, it took me a while Brian, to watch that
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game. I knew about it through y'all
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and some Twitter interaction. X in action, however you want to
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say it. I talked to Chris one night and
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Chris, he said a couple of the other item.
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I'm going to go watch it. It was late.
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It was late one night. So I went and watched it late
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one night and just seeing kind of what was going on.
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It was what I expected. But yeah, it was.
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It was some good stuff that went in.
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But I was like, yeah, that line was bad, man.
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It was, I think we figured this out.
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I know Brian probably saw it real quick.
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Actually, Brian, you put something in one of the chats
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wearing Johnny Tackle. Johnny Garrett's a right tackle
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or none, hands down. Johnny, we love you, but you got
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to play on the right. Side I, I think he's a he's a
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good tackle, but he doesn't quite have quick enough feet.
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I think to play left tackle BB he's not your every down left
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tackle. I think in a pinch you can put
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him out there, but he doesn't quite have the feet to to play
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left tackle as being a guy that's going to take, you know,
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50 plus steps a game at that position.
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So that is what it is because because the rest of it looked
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bad. And I mean, and that's what's
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going to happen when literally probably your three better
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players aren't there. Say what you want to say.
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Can somebody get me a birth certificate on Bob?
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Shit, he's got to be 45 years old.
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He older than us. I know he older than me.
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See, I thought he had already used like three years of
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eligibility before we got him. Nope, he was in a cheat code.
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He was at a JUCO and he's getting that rule.
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Bob shit. Crazy, crazy.
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He needs to go and find Sam Rogers and work with him in with
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high school students. That's what he need to be doing.
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I'm just going to say that I ain't going to go too hard on my
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boy, but I feel like he'd have been in school a long time.
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I think it's time to go. It's true, it's true, but he
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comes back next year, so yeah, it's a depth piece.
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If you're, if you're telling me he's a depth piece, he's a guy
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that's coming off the bench to, you know.
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He should, you should. He should quit.
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Is that what you're about to say?
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No, he's going to say Brian, probably going to say he's
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alright as long as he's a depth. Piece, yeah, as long as he's a
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depth piece, I don't, I don't need, I don't need that, that
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person being a lynchpin of my offensive line and that.
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And that's not necessarily, you know, dissing him that much.
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Like what I'm saying is that I think we've seen the best we're
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going to see from Bob Schick and we know that that's not enough.
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So if he's if he's in the front line next year, that's a
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problem. That is a big problem as he's in
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the front line next year, especially with some of the
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young guys coming up. Some of the young guys had
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already played in front of him this year.
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I mean, the the reason he was really playing any this year was
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because Leith got hurt. Robbie's one of them.
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Going to college for seven years is just fine.
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Robin. Playing football on my team is
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not fine. Get your ass off that offensive
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line and get over there and call some plays or something.
23:19
Tally, I'm going to throw this to.
23:20
You real quick man because player coach situation.
23:22
Yeah, player coach Tally, we talked about this because you I
23:27
think you mentioned in the chat somewhere or a message to me and
23:30
maybe best me and Brian and you were like, man, this is going to
23:33
be like the Pinstripe Bowl again.
23:35
I don't want to watch and that's the reason.
23:36
I know you didn't watch it, but what does it say to you when you
23:39
just went back and watched it where we were in 2021 to where
23:44
we are now as far as talent level goes?
23:47
Because to me it it says a lot. No, it was true.
23:52
I mean, it's exactly what I said.
23:54
I, I think I put some on the timeline about it too.
23:57
I just asked the question like how bad did people think we was
24:01
going to lose And it all of them was bad.
24:05
You know, I had no doubt we were going to lose, but I thought it
24:09
was going to get super bad. So I was like, yeah, Pinstripe
24:15
Bowl 50, two to seven, something like that.
24:19
But the floor has been raised. I got to give for as much shit
24:23
as I do give the coaching staff or I do give prior because all
24:26
of it falls on proud of me. Y'all know how I feel?
24:30
I do have to give him his props. He has raised the talent level.
24:35
He took over a shit show. He has raised the talent level
24:39
in the room and I think you see that when you get people like,
24:43
you know, Keelan Adams with the ball in his hand.
24:46
They can make plays, you know what I'm saying?
24:49
You can see the kid can move a little bit different and a
24:52
little bit faster than most wide receivers that we had.
24:56
I don't think that a senior receiver that's graduating.
24:58
Shout out to all my guys leaving.
25:01
Hope y'all go tear it up at the combine and you know, in the
25:04
NFL. But I don't think a wide
25:06
receiver that we had has the skill set of just say we're just
25:10
going to say keep. I don't think any of them have
25:12
that skill set. And I don't think Virginia Tech
25:15
has had a wide receiver with a skill set like that in a while.
25:20
Even when you think back to like Isaiah Ford, right?
25:23
Great wide receiver, different skill set.
25:26
Cam Phillips. Great wide receiver for us,
25:29
different skill set. Bucky Hodges, great tight end,
25:34
wide receiver, whatever you want to call him, but much different
25:38
skill set. We haven't had that person that
25:40
could just take the top off of defenses.
25:44
Jay Lane was able to show us some things in the short passing
25:48
game where he could get loose. He was a little shifty, but a
25:52
lot of times we asked a lot of Jay Lane, you know, and we got
25:54
him hurt. He played hurt most of the year.
25:56
So we didn't we we we seen him do some things, but I think I
26:01
think we left a little bit on the table with him.
26:04
Shout out to Jay Lane for playing Hollows games injured
26:06
and Steven Gosnell as well. But anyway, like you said,
26:10
Curtis, just to go back to your point, yeah, I got it.
26:14
I got to say, you know, the the talent level, the Florida talent
26:18
level has been raised and that and that's good to see.
26:21
You know you do want to see that.
26:23
So the the only position where you can see that really the town
26:26
level had been raised was the was the position that stood out
26:29
like a sore thumb, which is the offensive line.
26:32
Yeah. You took the two best and two
26:34
most important positions off that offensive line and it was
26:38
evident that that was a problem. And that's and that's not knock
26:41
to the other guys. I mean, I think they were put in
26:43
a position where they're probably not quite ready.
26:46
They weren't quite prepared enough for that scenario and
26:50
they got exposed a little bit. But pulling back to Tally's
26:54
point and especially looking at the wide receiver room and for
26:56
the young guys, especially a guy like Keelan Adams, what I like
27:03
and what I see and, and, and Tally, you kind of alluded to
27:06
it, but I know we've talked before.
27:08
There's fast and there's quick. And to me, quick is more
27:11
important on a football field. And Brody is quick.
27:16
Super quick. And and that that's a product of
27:20
a couple things. That's a product of being fast
27:22
with the football. That's also a product of being a
27:25
very good with your vision and your and precise with your route
27:28
running. And those are things that he
27:31
does very well. A lot of times when you see
27:34
those receivers that are quick like that, it's usually a small
27:38
guy, you know what I'm saying? Somebody who's 5859, they may be
27:42
listed at 511. Well, Keelan is probably 62, you
27:47
know, 6-1 somewhere around now. So to have that and he's putting
27:51
on weight, I think he's probably up to about 180 now, probably
27:55
came in at about 170. If he can gain another 10 lbs,
28:00
it mean 616-2190 with that, with that kind of speed, like that's
28:07
a different beast than we used to.
28:09
Then you start seeing then you start seeing talent that
28:12
somewhere like Ohio State has or LSU or you know, even Alabama,
28:19
you know the wide receivers has come through Alabama lately.
28:21
You start seeing that kind of talent level.
28:23
Not saying we going to see the same production because we don't
28:26
know. But I'm just saying when you
28:27
start seeing that type talent level come to Virginia Tech now
28:31
I want to see what we can do with it and I know we going to
28:33
talk about it later on even in the portal, you know, the things
28:37
that prize been able to do and not even fucking having ADC,
28:41
which we'll talk about as well. But Curtis, I, I, I think you
28:45
had a point that you about the about the, about the jump in on.
28:48
Well, the one thing that the the Brody play where he made that
28:51
big, that big run, it was short sighted and he when he made that
28:56
cut, he was near the sideline. He knew it's like I got to go
29:00
now when he made that cut and it was the explosiveness, because
29:04
y'all talk about quick. I always like to, I, I watch it
29:07
close now, guys who are explosive, when I say explosive,
29:10
it's 123 boom. He's gone where sometimes it
29:14
takes guys 6-7 steps before they hit stride.
29:18
Brody, it was, he made that a, the cut was impressive.
29:21
And then 1-2 boom. And the next thing you know,
29:23
it's 58 yards. Somebody angles him and gets
29:26
him. And I'm sure people gave Chris
29:29
grief. I'm sure Keelan got grief.
29:32
But that's what we're talking about.
29:34
We're talking about those elite traits.
29:36
You start putting those on the football field, that's how you
29:39
get better. So I love that.
29:42
I'm going to tell you one more elite trait.
29:44
And while we wrap this up, John loves foot.
29:48
Jesus Christ. Jesus, that's the one you want?
29:51
See, people like that is why I want to play college football
29:54
for nine years. Yep, Robbie, you know, not Bob.
29:57
John Love. John Love, can we keep him in
30:00
college for seven years? I'll be all right with it.
30:03
I'll be all right with that. But I mean.
30:06
When he lines up the kick. When he lines up the kick, it
30:09
doesn't matter where he is on the field.
30:11
It never crosses my mind that he's going to miss.
30:15
He just, it just seems like, you know what I'm saying.
30:19
He don't miss, man. I'm always confident whenever he
30:23
gets back there. Just so you know, Tally, he has
30:26
two years of eligibility left, two years of.
30:30
Eligibility money. I mean, if you're kidding, when
30:32
you go to college you ain't looking at getting money and
30:34
pussy like giving both of them go man, what?
30:40
Let's go. The man happy she's been happy
30:43
man the. Man in his college career is 88%
30:52
from field gold range in the last two years.
30:56
He is 38 of 42. And we've been running.
30:59
It ain't, it ain't all been short, you know, We're all been
31:02
running. We running about to kick 60
31:05
yards, 50 yard field goals. I think one game he had the most
31:09
points on the game on the team. He did.
31:11
He might have kicked. He did, yeah.
31:13
By the way, I noticed for you, Charlie, that was for you right
31:16
there. Had to be.
31:18
Yeah, JT in the name. Had to be.
31:21
All right, so there's the Mayo Bowl season over, You know, is
31:26
what it is. Let's roll.
31:27
Let's talk to staff changes because the last time we spoke,
31:32
the Matt Moore hire had been made, but it was state of the
31:37
program. So we were talking 10,000
31:40
things, everything liquor was flowing, bruises were flowing,
31:44
fun was happening. But let's let's take a little
31:46
bit deep at Matt Moore, a little bit more because I think, I
31:54
don't think anybody's going to deny this.
31:56
It's not only an upgrade, it's a significant upgrade from Ron.
32:01
No disrespect to Ron, but is a significant upgrade.
32:04
We disrespect to Ron, but go ahead.
32:08
Try to be cordial here man. I tried to be cordial.
32:10
They said Ron Crook was zooming calling people that.
32:17
If this was happening, I don't know Chad, if y'all know let me
32:20
know. They said my man was zooming
32:24
coaching, so he didn't even have a house in Blacksburg.
32:28
Can't do that. We can't do that, man.
32:30
We'll we'll figure that out one day.
32:31
But I think overall I want to hear y'all's viewpoints because
32:35
obviously now we have gotten to the point where we've read more
32:39
about Matt Moore. We see what if offensive lines
32:41
done. Brian, you played online when
32:44
you saw the hire and when you started reading, and I know you
32:48
got your points, but what, what's, what's, what's, what are
32:52
you most excited about with the Matt Moore hire?
32:56
A toughness, I think that's that's a big thing and an
32:59
ability to recruit quality talent and develop that talent
33:03
and get that talent to the NFLI think that's something Matt
33:07
Moore has shown those offenses at West Virginia have been up
33:12
and down. The one consistent thing that we
33:15
saw through that era was the offensive line play was pretty
33:20
consistent and there was nothing really to complain about from
33:25
their play from from from that standpoint on that offense.
33:28
So I think that's the big thing for me is that you know, you're
33:31
going to get a consistent level of play.
33:32
You're going to get some good development of the players that
33:35
are on the roster. So I think by default, you're
33:38
going to get a level of play increase before you even start
33:42
talking about the guys that he's bringing with him or the guys
33:44
that he can recruit to play in Blacksburg.
33:48
So that's why I'm excited. And again, I mean, we talked
33:50
about the guys I wanted. I, I was, I was big Marcus
33:53
Johnson. But I, I, I said Matt Moore was
33:56
probably my, my, my 1B. If I had to pick up guys that I
33:59
thought were going to be available, you know, would have
34:01
some opportunities to get hired by the team.
34:04
So the fact that we got that one, I'm good with it.
34:07
Let's rock, baby. Callie, what about you, man?
34:12
If y'all need to know anything about Matt Moore, I I ain't got
34:16
to look at that nails. Besides, he coached at Hoover
34:19
High School in the early 2000s. Them motherfuckers was cheating.
34:25
Rush Pros was cheating. They was doing anything that
34:29
could be Rush Pros had. He was living a double life.
34:32
He had a wife on this side of town and a wife on that side of
34:35
town. And guess what?
34:37
He's still cheating now. He's still cheating right now in
34:41
Alabama. Rush Pros is still cheating.
34:43
I ain't saying Matt Moore cheating.
34:45
I hope he cheating. I hope that he cheating.
34:48
But if you don't believe me, you go back and you look up Hoover
34:51
High School in the early 2000. They was the first high school
34:55
team to have a show. He I think he was a offensive
34:59
coordinator and maybe I know he's offensive line because I
35:02
think he was offensive coordinator.
35:04
They had ATV show. It's called 2A days.
35:06
Go look up two a days and see how Hoover High School, which
35:09
was probably 20 minutes from where I grew up, it was like
35:13
celebrities, man, like everybody.
35:15
MTV Show. If Matt Moore can make it
35:18
through an MTV show with no scandals, I mean, I know he can.
35:22
Go to Blacksburg and cheat Matt. We going to help you cheat,
35:26
Matt. You tell us what you need.
35:28
Tell us what you need. We tell us what you need to get
35:31
a tackle in there right now. If Matt was in there, he seen
35:34
#70 Matt would have, Matt would have had to tell #70 to go to
35:41
Walmart and start bagging grocers.
35:43
And they don't even bag groceries at Walmart no more.
35:45
You bag them yourself. But he would have made them go
35:47
down there and do that. Hey, Matt going to be all right.
35:49
But besides that, looking at his, looking at what he's got,
35:55
he got people. He's putting people in the NFL,
35:57
which is great. You know, he took some recruits
35:59
from us, which was not great for us, but great for him.
36:03
And he was coaching in West Virginia.
36:05
Like come on man, how you get somebody to come to West
36:10
Virginia? They throwing batteries at
36:14
people, burning couches. This man is getting people to
36:18
come over there and they kicking our ass.
36:21
Thank you. Thank you, Matt for finally
36:23
coming in here to help right this ship, man.
36:25
We just need somebody to get some big ass country boys.
36:30
I don't care where they come from.
36:32
And we just need them to not let the other team get to our
36:35
quarterback and don't and tell them to don't sack their own
36:38
quarterback. Don't step on his feet, you
36:42
know, don't pull his pants down, None of that.
36:44
We need you to protect him. That's what we need.
36:47
That's what you're getting paid for.
36:49
I think it's what y'all said. Just to kind of cap this off
36:51
about more, it's it's the development because he got there
36:55
in 2019 Colt Mckibbitt, who's now starting right tackle for my
37:00
49ers. I wish he wasn't.
37:02
He is definitely a great college player and not a good NFL player
37:05
or he is a serviceable NFL player.
37:08
All American, that's 2019 Zach Frazier.
37:12
God, if Zach Frazier, two time all American what, 50th pickers
37:19
in the center somewhere like that for the Steelers and he's
37:22
and he's never been he's he's he's he's going to be their next
37:25
grade center. Yeah.
37:27
Mike Webster. You got Germante Dawson, you had
37:29
the Pouncey kid. They nailed him.
37:31
That kid is unbelievable. And now you got Wyatt Mallam,
37:35
who's likely going to be high pick.
37:37
He had this other kid down in the sunbelt.
37:39
He got picked like in the 80's. The guy takes it and develops it
37:44
and it doesn't. It doesn't seem like it matters
37:46
where it is. Because to me you turned 3 out
37:49
of West Virginia in a five year period for all Americans.
37:53
High picks, good NFL players y'all.
37:57
That man knows what he's doing. To your point to Brian, go look
38:01
at the run games. Even they did not have a good
38:03
season this year at all. Still they got more rushing
38:07
yards than us. They didn't have a backlight to
38:10
they still were doing 193 a game.
38:13
Yep, that's insane and. We we haven't talked about the
38:16
fact that, you know, Doug Nestor finished his time at West
38:20
Virginia and is now on a practice reserve squad, so.
38:24
Still making him he's. He's out there playing in the
38:27
NFL. He's not necessarily on a game
38:30
day roster, but that's not making some moves.
38:32
So if the guy is getting talent into the league.
38:35
He's getting talent and he knows how to recruit because we'll
38:38
talk about the guys later that are coming over these these
38:41
weren't 7-8 hundred ranked guys. These guys were a lot higher.
38:46
Let's talk about the other three positions real quick that are
38:49
not filled. Strength and conditioning
38:54
director of high school relations and defensive
38:56
coordinator. Curtis Curtis prompt a scare
39:00
earlier today. Well, it still is a question
39:04
mark. Why?
39:05
If you did not know now David Cunningham, our buddy over at
39:09
Tech Sideline, Jared Ferguson, still on the school website for
39:13
strength and conditioning, but as of like 2:00 this afternoon
39:16
he was not listening. Only football staff.
39:20
Fortunately. Throw us off for a minute,
39:21
Curtis. Well, still though, why isn't he
39:24
there? But why isn't he there?
39:27
He was part of that staff this year.
39:29
But let's let's just kind of go into it because I mean, some got
39:33
a break within the next week, right?
39:36
Hopefully we thank you dude. Word on the street is it's
39:43
breaking sometime later this week or next week.
39:46
Everyone here we were, we were hoping it would break before we
39:50
pressed record tonight so we could have a little bit more to
39:53
to chew on from a, you know, new coach perspective.
39:57
But now we're we're we're we're still going to be in speculation
40:00
mode just like we were, you know, a little over two weeks
40:03
ago. So.
40:06
We don't know who's been interviewed.
40:08
What's everyone's feeling? What's which way is the wind
40:13
blowing for you guys? Well, y'all go ahead Curtis, you
40:16
start us off start us. Off and I've set on this for
40:20
about 3 weeks now. I think it's Tim Walton.
40:24
I think it's Tim Walton out of Ohio State.
40:27
Curtis, before you finish. So before you finish, I'm gonna
40:30
let you go back. But when you say it, what you
40:33
said at the beginning of when we first started looking and you
40:37
said you defensive coordinator. Hemphill Yeah.
40:42
I don't know, man, that kind of. And then I did a little
40:44
research. I would be happy with that.
40:46
I would be too I. Don't know.
40:48
I've heard that name come around a little bit.
40:50
Me myself, I just don't know if we go that be with somebody like
40:56
a Tim Walton. But go ahead, answer me this.
41:01
Why isn't Hemphill here then? They ain't played in a month.
41:06
Because we lie too much, you know, we, we lie.
41:11
That's what we good at. I don't know.
41:13
I'm, I'm trying to figure it out.
41:15
You know, I'm just hoping that if we do have AB or C that it is
41:21
someone like Hemphill. Yeah.
41:23
You know what I'm saying? I would be fine with that.
41:27
I just don't want them to come out and say, hey, we're going to
41:29
promote da da, da, and I'm going to be like, no, that ain't going
41:32
to work. That's not going to work.
41:34
We took this long to do this. What are we doing you?
41:37
Better make it. If we go through over a month of
41:39
speculating and we end up with a Sean Quinn or we for whatever
41:43
reason, bring Bud Foster out of retirement, I know we've said
41:46
they've said they're not doing that.
41:47
God no. I know they said we're not doing
41:49
that, but you know, I'd, I'd be, obviously I'd be great with Tim
41:53
Walton. I mean, I know there's words
41:56
that we at least had some conversation with banks.
41:58
I mean, there's words that that, you know, there's.
42:00
I don't. Can I say something real quick?
42:04
Everybody put that bullshit out there.
42:06
Tim Banks was making 1.5 million at Tennessee.
42:09
We that's pretty much our top is 1.5.
42:13
He was not coming. I mean, I, I basically heard
42:16
that the conversation was had probably put 1.5 on the table
42:20
because he essentially matched what Tennessee was paying now
42:23
and they obviously cleared it. They you know, it's the better
42:27
play. I mean, no bullshit to us.
42:30
I mean, right now that's that's a better place, that's a better
42:32
job. It's a significantly better job.
42:35
And I mean it's an easier job because you the recruiting is a
42:39
whole lot fucking easier if you're Tennessee.
42:43
It just is that that that's just that's, that's the fact of the
42:45
matter. So I.
42:46
Mean the girls. I, I think, I think if you know,
42:48
even if we were able to beat whatever Tennessee could fucking
42:51
do, it would still have been a questionable decision as far as
42:54
whether he would have taken the job all.
42:56
Right back to my guy Tim Walton, current associate head coach,
43:01
secondary coach for Ohio State, playing the national title game
43:05
on Monday night. If you look back, there's ties
43:10
to Pride. He was defensive coordinator at
43:12
Memphis when Pride was AD line coach there.
43:14
So there is a relationship there.
43:16
And I know everybody says, well, that's stupid.
43:18
You should never do that. Y'all people don't work in the
43:21
real world. Y'all people work in fictitious
43:23
CFB 25. I can go hire this guy.
43:26
You ain't gonna hire anybody you don't know that, You don't
43:29
trust, you can't have a conversation with trust me on
43:33
that, especially when you're basically putting your, your
43:38
life, your, your coaching life on the line.
43:41
So if somebody he knows, I keep paying that picture.
43:43
You look at Walden's history, JTM putting it up on there.
43:48
He was offensive coordinator, not only in college, defensive
43:50
coordinator league, coached several all pro corners in in
43:55
the NFLI, think it's a fit too. And everybody's like, well, he's
43:59
home at Ohio State. Like Jim Knowles ain't going
44:02
nowhere. He ain't getting the DC job
44:04
there. So for his career at 52 years
44:07
old, this is probably his last opportunity to get a coordinator
44:11
job. I think it's Walton.
44:15
I would love it Like somebody put it in the chat that said,
44:17
like, that's probably as as close to a slam dunk as you can
44:20
get, so sort. Of banks, yeah.
44:24
Yeah, for real. So I mean, I get it, it gives
44:27
you everything that you're looking for, but I'm just like,
44:31
it can't be, you know what I'm saying?
44:32
Like until I see it, I'm I'm one of them people that is like, no,
44:36
it got to be. It's got to be some kind of bull
44:38
crap, you know, it's not going to be something that good, but.
44:42
Yeah. We're going to see.
44:44
We're going to see hopefully soon.
44:45
Because like you said, a lot of the people who we talking about,
44:48
like why aren't they here? Like they ain't played in over a
44:50
month. What are we waiting on?
44:52
I mean, the, the two people that you know make sense why they're
44:55
not here right now is Dex and Walton.
45:00
I mean the the of the of the people that are kind of been
45:02
floated for this job that actually makes sense from a
45:06
relationship standpoint, history standpoint, what they bring to
45:10
the table from a footprint standpoint.
45:14
You know that that's really all we're talking about at this
45:17
point is, you know, Dex and and maybe Walton there, there may be
45:22
one or two other guys out there. Now if now if we wanted to
45:25
really throw our nuts on the table just go take him Bill from
45:29
JMU and give him like 750,000 because they ain't paying that
45:34
and and that's what you should do.
45:35
But I think what will happen. This is my opinion and y'all,
45:38
I've told you all this and you know, per sources, sources,
45:44
right, Brian, per sources, apparently Quinn impressed with
45:49
what he did for linebacker in the last month.
45:52
I think Sean Quinn's going to be the linebacker coach of this
45:55
unit of this team next year. The entire linebacker coach, all
45:59
of them. Now that does give some openings
46:02
elsewhere. We figure that out as it goes
46:04
on. I'm sure some of y'all read
46:06
message boards and stuff and things that are happening, but
46:09
that's my feel is Sean Quinn is the linebacker coach.
46:15
No title. So if in that scenario, So what
46:18
it sounds like to me if is if we're we're targeting what seems
46:21
to be ADB or probably safety coach from a position standpoint
46:27
for DC, whether it be Dex, whether it be Walton.
46:32
So you look at moving Quinn to a full time full, full unit
46:37
linebacker coach is is that when you look at a defensive end
46:42
specific the line coach, do you bring in somebody to work
46:49
specifically with the DNS? Maybe and, and somebody said
46:53
today they thought I was crazy thinking like that, that they
46:56
might give JCA Co DC title. I don't think that's crazy at
46:59
all. Everybody knows the way code DC
47:01
sits work. There is the head code DC and
47:04
then there's the below code DC. You don't call plays, you ain't,
47:07
you ain't DC you doing shit. I think the way JC, his line,
47:12
the way his line, his work, the way he's recruited, the face he
47:17
is, the honest truth is he's making $500,000 right now.
47:21
He's worth a lot more. You put a code DC title on and
47:24
give him an extra 250. And then another thing too is
47:28
because, yeah, we talked about like, can they recruit?
47:30
Can they do this? A lot of times the DC and the
47:34
OC, don't they? They don't do as much recruiting
47:37
as we think, you know, like your name can bring people to us.
47:41
But like you got so many other things that you do.
47:44
It's not a lot of recruiting that they do, you know, that
47:48
they may go with the big fish, but the groundwork is laid by
47:51
some of those other guys. So I can understand why you said
47:54
that. You know how I feel about it.
47:56
I don't know yet. I want to know who that DC is
47:58
first before I start talking about colds and everything else.
48:01
But I don't know, man. I'm just excited to hear the
48:06
news. I want to know.
48:07
I want to know like what, who and what we're doing moving
48:12
forward. You know what I'm saying y'all?
48:14
Don't flip freak out. This light back here keep
48:16
flickering making me feel like I'm in a scary movie.
48:19
So if I get up and start running, that's why.
48:22
If a Demogorgon shows up behind you, I'll let you know.
48:25
Yeah, exactly. All right.
48:28
So there all that is you still got those positions.
48:30
I think probably the first Domino's got to fall right with
48:35
the DC. Once DC falls, everything else
48:37
will fall into place. Some of it will make sense, some
48:40
of it won't, and we'll be back here talking about it whenever
48:43
that happens. Trust me.
48:46
We assume it's next week, so we may go back-to-back week, which
48:48
is something we normally don't do in the offseason.
48:50
All right, let's flip real quick.
48:51
Talk about a couple of recruits here.
48:54
One actually 2025 class Aaron Sparks.
49:01
What? What are you laughing at?
49:02
That would hit me Tally, hey. Hey man, I will tell you this.
49:08
I've upgraded. I talked to the guys before I
49:11
had to switch my office out. My son, we're going to be nice
49:16
to him today, but he wanted to switch his rooms around.
49:18
So we had to switch my office in his room and he actually, I got
49:22
more space in here. So I'm happy about that.
49:24
And I went from AT&T to Google Fiber.
49:27
And hey, man, I'm telling you, I'm going to give the
49:30
endorsement to Google Fiber. Those guys do not play.
49:35
They got us set up good. You know, I haven't had no
49:38
problems. You know, knock on some wood,
49:41
knock on some wood. We didn't had no problems with
49:43
the Internet since they've been here and I'm excited about it.
49:46
So yeah, I'm glad y'all noticed it, man.
49:49
I did this for y'all. 70 bucks a month.
49:52
I'm good to go. He ain't.
49:56
He ain't going to tell y'all that.
49:57
He also did it so he didn't have to drive across town and work in
50:00
the office every day either. Oh yeah, yeah, multiple reasons.
50:04
If I'd have been using that other Internet, trying to work
50:06
from home and I got fired, I've been dropping calls, you know,
50:10
trying to get on Zoom calls. It'd have been choppy.
50:12
Y'all know what it looked like? They would have fired me.
50:15
They would have thought I was playing around.
50:16
So yeah, it was something, it was something that had to
50:18
happen. So I'm I'm feeling good about
50:20
the new Internet. Good to hear, good to hear.
50:23
Well, let's talk about these recruits real quick.
50:26
The 1st 2025 Cameron Sparks top 400 player, top 15 in the state
50:31
of Tennessee went to Baylor School, which I know Tally, you
50:35
had mentioned. That's a pretty damn good
50:37
school. At one point, and this is I knew
50:40
this because Tally paid attention to it.
50:43
At one point. This kid was a five star.
50:46
I'm trying to figure out he's 63, he's 205.
50:49
He's classified as an athlete. I mean, it's a great land.
50:54
We got national publicity out of it because he did it at one of
50:57
the one of the All Star Games. Oh, I mean, yay.
51:03
You never know. You never know when you're
51:05
dealing with recruiting. It could be a coach passing
51:07
something along to somebody about a character trait, just
51:11
something they don't like. You know, it could be that they
51:15
didn't pick a certain school that that coach or that
51:19
recruiter wanted. So they, you know, dropped them
51:21
it again, you know how those rankings work.
51:24
We, we know how those go. But at the same time, you know,
51:27
I heard this kid was, and it could just be he had a bad year,
51:32
could have been an injury, I don't know.
51:33
But I know that they at for a while, this kid was high on
51:37
Mississippi State's board or he was high on their board and they
51:41
was high on his board. And I don't know what happened.
51:43
I just know they said that Virginia Tech was his first
51:46
offer and they circled back around and they got back.
51:50
They they stayed the course and I got to give.
51:52
And again, I know everybody who follows us and follows me knows
51:56
like I'm hard on the coaches. I'm not a coach, no coach I like
52:01
I'm not a coach lover. Like I love the school.
52:05
You know, I want my team to win. Now I can like some of the
52:09
things that the coaches do. So I'm always going to be hard
52:11
on the coaches because they get paid to do this.
52:13
So whenever I say certain stuff, I just expect them to win.
52:16
I expect them to put a better product on them.
52:19
But I got to give props where props is due.
52:21
Like pride knows what he's doing when it comes to relationships.
52:24
Like he shows that over and over again in recruiting and you
52:29
know, when you talk to some of the parents and even the players
52:33
and they talk about the whole coaching staff, you know,
52:35
Fantail Pry, you know, the list goes on and on of the recruiters
52:41
that we have. Like they, they know what
52:42
they're doing when it comes to that.
52:44
I think the just the frustration is we want to see that passion
52:50
that we put into recruiting on the field.
52:52
That's just it. And that's really it.
52:56
I mean, think about Cameron Sparks.
52:57
I mean, you know, looking at that ranking, Josh said it here
53:03
in the comments, you sometimes it's, you know, a guy that's
53:08
really good out the gate and sometimes competition catches up
53:11
as you kind of age up. Still, he's still getting solid
53:14
great. Like he's a he's a very high
53:15
three star on all three and and 24/7 still a composite 4 star
53:22
overall. I mean, so he's a, he's a guy
53:25
that is still considered a, a pretty high recruit in the week.
53:28
When you look at his offers, it's an interesting offer list
53:31
because she's got some, some really good offers when you when
53:34
you look at those. And then it's like, but it's not
53:36
the it's not the usual like murderer's row that you would
53:41
expect from a guy that had a five star label on him at one
53:43
point. So that's interesting.
53:46
It, it does look more like in that high 3 low 4 range.
53:50
So I think he ultimately got to about where his talent level
53:54
probably dictates over the course of time.
53:58
It just he got there a little bit of a different route than
54:00
most folks go. Yeah, let's talk about the other
54:05
kid. Got 26 the second, but the only
54:09
commit for 26. Cornell Warren, 6 Four and a
54:12
half, 195 lbs. Bluffton, SC Top five player in
54:17
the state of South Carolina, top 60 player nationally, 4 star.
54:25
How long do we hold on to him? I don't know.
54:27
We know how everything goes with all this stuff.
54:29
But again Tally, I didn't even know he was I think you threw it
54:33
out there. Hey, y'all know this kid's
54:34
probably going to go to us. And he again, it's a it's the
54:37
it's the Under Armour game. It's one of those big game where
54:40
a lot of people are watching and pretty good offer list out here,
54:45
you know, But it's so early. He'd get excited about 26 until
54:52
after we talk with Mattie in March.
54:54
Right, right. Well, I mean, with this kid, and
54:59
again, I'm just a fan, you know, just snooping around boards and
55:04
hearing certain stuff. I mean, this kid has been high
55:06
on Virginia Tech for a while. From what I heard, family loves
55:10
Virginia Tech. I think, you know, he loves
55:12
Virginia Tech. So I think it had been in the
55:15
works for a while. He wanted to announce it there.
55:17
So sometimes that's a good and a bad thing.
55:20
You know, like I know what I want.
55:23
From what I heard, he's not like super high on the recruiting
55:25
process. He just wants to lock in and
55:27
focus on football. So that could be good.
55:30
But again, you never know what happens if you go and put a
55:33
shitty, you know, shitty product in the field and somebody lose
55:38
their job or something. What happens?
55:39
You know, whatever. But at the same time, like I
55:43
said, to get in that early, it's it's cool.
55:47
But then you, you get turn around on the on the other hand,
55:50
and the quarterback, whatever his name was, Falzon Falco,
55:54
whatever his name is, yeah, you get him.
55:57
Yeah, you get him to commit early.
55:59
And the next thing you know, you seeing the the, the, the I, the
56:03
iPhone notes come out. I just want to thank Virginia
56:06
Tech. Get that shit out of here.
56:10
Just don't commit that early if you don't want to go there.
56:12
You want to. Exactly.
56:13
Yeah, don't use a placeholder, but you know that happens.
56:16
That's what it does. It's part of the process now.
56:19
And I mean, I think that's that's one thing to to think
56:23
about is that I think overall, I mean, you look at the the last
56:27
few years, I mean, probably done a pretty good job of when guys
56:30
commit, he does a good job of holding on to him.
56:33
You know, there there are those, you know, examples that kind of
56:38
go against that rule. But generally he's done a good
56:41
job. If guys get in the boat, they
56:43
stay in the boat. So you feel a little bit better
56:47
that you know that that commit came the early January versus,
56:52
you know, a little bit earlier in the process like it was with
56:55
the with the quarterback. But I'm excited for this one.
56:59
I think it's going to be he's got he's got some good, some
57:01
really good potential, obviously.
57:04
And you know, another, you know, chip of the cap there for
57:09
fantail mines. So.
57:11
As always man, as always. All right, let's flip over.
57:14
I got one more thing before we jump onto the portal stuff and I
57:18
don't know if y'all saw this, I think I sent you all the
57:20
article, but about the basically in unison, all the coaches of
57:27
the FBS level are saying they want one portal starting the day
57:31
after New Year's through the 12th 10 days when you can jump
57:35
in the portal. First of all, I'll ask Brian A
57:39
do you like it? Boo, do you think it will stick?
57:45
I, I, I have less of a problem with the time of the window more
57:49
than the placement in the calendar, I think.
57:55
I think that I wish they would just back everything up,
57:59
including spring ball and started the semester and all
58:04
that stuff and get kind of this ironed out between the 15th and
58:10
the end of January. I think a 15 day window is
58:14
probably OK. OK.
58:19
That issues with that. Spring ball to May.
58:22
And so there's there's a lot of trickle down here because you
58:24
have to move spring ball to May in terms of academic eligibility
58:28
and all that other stuff. But that would give you the
58:31
opportunity to have a window after everything's finished in
58:35
terms of the sport, you know, the regular season, the
58:39
postseason, the sport is done for the year.
58:42
You have your transfer portal window immediately after that.
58:46
And then those guys are eligible for spring ball.
58:48
When that kicks off in May, you have a May spring ball.
58:52
You have, you know, your two, their two-month offseason, Then
58:55
you get into camp. Tally anything from this on you.
59:03
Man, I don't. I don't never know what these
59:04
people doing. I just know I feel like they let
59:08
it get bad so they can come in and regulate stuff.
59:11
That's what I feel. I feel like they going to come
59:13
in with some stuff next year. Portal windows, I ain't going to
59:18
say capping NIL, but paying attention to NIL, knowing about
59:22
it, all of this stuff that they're incorporating, I feel
59:24
like they wanted it to be kind of the wild, Wild West to be
59:26
like, see, we told you, you need us.
59:29
You know what I'm saying? Because now you got coaches
59:31
quitting and things are getting crazy.
59:34
So yeah, I do think it needs to be some stipulations on it.
59:38
I still don't like them. Like, I don't know how that
59:42
works with what we're doing out with the placement, but I feel
59:46
like, yeah, stipulations definitely are have to be that.
59:50
And like Robbie said, I mean, there's going to be more changes
59:52
coming. It has to.
59:54
Oh yeah, there's, there's got to be more changes, but the whole
59:57
thing about the the why it has to be at some point before like
1:00:01
mid January around to your point, yes, the last 10 days of
1:00:06
the month, early February would be great, but school starts in
1:00:10
most time middle of January. Kids have to be.
1:00:12
Spring balls. So they're eligible for spring
1:00:14
ball. They don't necessarily have to
1:00:15
transfer in the the spring window.
1:00:19
You mean spring? Ball I got OK, I got a summer.
1:00:21
Session they can transfer OK, officially enroll start of the
1:00:25
first summer session. OK.
1:00:27
So I got what you're saying. So you're basically saying
1:00:29
spring ball is no longer there in school?
1:00:32
No longer during spring semester.
1:00:34
Yeah. Well, that's what that's what
1:00:35
I'm saying. No longer.
1:00:36
In spring, there's no longer there in school.
1:00:38
It's the first summer term. Yeah.
1:00:41
I think I could get along with that right there.
1:00:46
I think this is better than what it was.
1:00:48
Is it perfect? No they shouldn't.
1:00:50
In December that shit has to go away one way or the other.
1:00:54
That has to go away if they stay January the mid you're.
1:00:58
Fucking up your product? You're fucking.
1:01:00
Up Exactly. You're fucking up your product.
1:01:02
Well, you're fucking up a lot of shit because at that point
1:01:05
there's a ton going on. What You're trying to get high
1:01:06
school kids in, you're trying to get bold prep and you're trying
1:01:09
to figure out what's going on in the portal.
1:01:12
I would take this over. Now, obviously, Brian, you have
1:01:15
the perfect plan, but you could go present that to him.
1:01:17
And you know, a bunch of idiots at the NCAA, they just like piss
1:01:21
it away. All right, let's roll on.
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All right well let's talk about the portal and let's talk about
1:01:59
and if y'all did not count or have not counted 1717 in through
1:02:07
the portal. This is clearly the biggest
1:02:09
portal class we've ever had. I do pay attention to on three,
1:02:13
more than 247 for some reason. On three is absolutely plugged
1:02:16
into it and they know who's in and who's out right now.
1:02:20
Virginia Tech, 14th in the country in portal, ranking
1:02:23
second in the ACC, only behind Miami.
1:02:26
And I want to start on the offensive side of the ball
1:02:28
because obviously lot to replace over there.
1:02:33
And I want to start with the skill players.
1:02:36
And I'm going to pitch this to tally first tally of the four
1:02:39
skill players we picked up. As you started looking at stats,
1:02:42
maybe watching their games highlights, who are you most
1:02:46
excited about coming in? I'll probably say the running
1:02:52
back from Bowling Green, Stewart, he's probably the guy
1:02:56
that I've been the most excited about just because we're going
1:02:58
to have such a huge, huge hole to fill with with Tooting
1:03:01
leaving. And he does put you in the mind
1:03:04
of of a Tooting body size and how he runs, his ability to
1:03:08
break tackles and things like that.
1:03:11
And I just feel like he had a lot of production.
1:03:13
You know, some of the other guys that we're getting, they're
1:03:16
more, you know, potential guys. This guy has a product that he's
1:03:21
showed and it's you can go and watch and you are going to get
1:03:25
excited about it. So yeah, I'd say him.
1:03:27
I'd probably say Stewart. If y'all are worrying about
1:03:30
Stewart, if you haven't looked him up right at 900 yards this
1:03:34
year on the ground over 5, four carry and tally, you're right.
1:03:38
He runs a ton like Tune and he breaks a shit ton of tackles.
1:03:42
He's got that. He's a little bit shorter, a
1:03:44
little bit more compact, but it ain't, it ain't much.
1:03:47
It doesn't change him there, Brian, what about you?
1:03:51
He like Stewart? Are you on that boat or is there
1:03:53
somebody else that's caught your eye?
1:03:55
You're looking at just the offensive side.
1:03:57
Offensive skill players. I'm getting to the big boys
1:04:00
next. Skill players all.
1:04:02
Right. If we're looking at just the
1:04:04
skill players, the the the one that has kind of caught my eye
1:04:08
is I'm interested to see what Cam Selden can do, because I'm
1:04:14
interested to see how we use his versatility in this offense,
1:04:17
because I feel like he does bring a little bit of that J
1:04:20
lane type energy. You know, he's going to you
1:04:26
know, we we've got a bit wide out.
1:04:28
He's going to play wide out like a running back, right.
1:04:30
So he's going to be a guy that is going to run through you a
1:04:34
little bit, run by it some. The question is going to be with
1:04:38
him being a full time wide receiver, which it which it
1:04:40
seems like is what we're going to use him with, with some kind
1:04:44
of hybrid backfield opportunities there, can he kind
1:04:49
of ramp up his production as a receiver?
1:04:52
Is he going to be a guy that you can count on, you know, getting
1:04:55
a handful of catches every game, or is he more of a gadget type
1:05:00
player that you can kind of use situationally and scheme up
1:05:03
against a defense to to get some big plays?
1:05:06
I don't know which one that's going to be.
1:05:07
I'd rather see the the former. I'd rather see him be more of a
1:05:10
dynamic player than necessarily a gadget player.
1:05:14
OK, I hear you on that. Yeah, I mean, obviously the big
1:05:16
thing about him that everybody's been talking about is he was a
1:05:20
Virginia kid. He got recruited hard.
1:05:22
He went to Tennessee as all story with all Virginia kids
1:05:25
that leave you go elsewhere, they gone screw you.
1:05:27
They don't care about you. You got to come back home.
1:05:30
Y'all know that I'm going to go a little bit different than
1:05:34
y'all and I know I'm not doing this at all to go out here and
1:05:37
say, are you just trying to be different?
1:05:40
I like Marcellus Hawkins and it's for one reason.
1:05:43
He's coming from D2. He's coming from the Mules out
1:05:47
in Central Missouri. Yes, that is their nickname.
1:05:50
It's the Mules. It's a giant red mule.
1:05:52
Go look at the thing, it looks funnier and Hee Haw.
1:05:55
And if you don't know what Hee Haw is, I'm aging myself
1:05:58
significantly and where I grew up significantly.
1:06:00
But if we look at this kid, he is truly a dual threat running
1:06:03
back with what he did not last year, because last year he
1:06:09
effectively got in the portal early what he did two years ago
1:06:14
down there. But what I think this does more
1:06:17
than anything is Hawkins is a junior, a true junior.
1:06:22
Stewart's a senior. We are not having to throw a ton
1:06:26
on Jeremiah Kony and or Tyler Mason this year.
1:06:31
That's what I love about it. You're putting it now, if they
1:06:33
go out in spring ball, they whip ass, they jump him.
1:06:36
That is what it is. But it's not that pressure
1:06:39
because we saw both those guys and I like the way they set that
1:06:43
up. That room is now sort of set up
1:06:45
to say this is when it's going to be your turn.
1:06:48
You jump on them, you jump these guys, oh, these guys jump you.
1:06:52
That is what it is. That's football.
1:06:53
But I love the way they've got that set up now.
1:06:56
All righty, let's go ahead somebody.
1:06:59
Nope, thought I heard tomorrow about to say so.
1:07:01
All right, let's now talk about the offensive line because we
1:07:04
didn't stole all the West Virginia shit Brian be excited
1:07:09
about if not all. Give me Thomas Remack baby.
1:07:16
So I'm excited for having a guy that can come in immediately
1:07:22
solidify the interior offensive line, be a leader, which I feel
1:07:27
like has kind of been a little bit of a void.
1:07:30
I mean, we had we had Kade Moore and we're we're losing him
1:07:35
obviously. So I think this is going to be
1:07:37
an opportunity to get some leadership in that room.
1:07:40
I think there's some other guys that you know could play a big
1:07:44
role in this offensive line as well, but Remack is definitely
1:07:46
the guy that I'm looking for from a leadership standpoint,
1:07:48
from an ability standpoint, to really solidify this room and
1:07:52
kind of set the culture of what Matt Moore is bringing in.
1:07:54
Because Matt Moore is bringing his own brand of toughness as a
1:07:58
coach and Remack is going to be the guy in the room that's going
1:08:02
to kind of filter that down to the rest of that unit.
1:08:05
I'm excited to see what he can bring to the table there.
1:08:12
You're on mute there, Kurt. Yes, I mean, Brian pretty much
1:08:17
hit the nail on the head when he talks about Remack because it's
1:08:20
like we need stuff now, you know what I'm saying?
1:08:23
You want to know the other two guys are young that he's brought
1:08:26
with him, which is good. We want some youth and we have
1:08:30
some youth, but Reback is going to be the guy who is, he's like,
1:08:35
I've been with him. I know you know what he expects
1:08:39
when he's talking to the other players.
1:08:41
Hey, I know he may have didn't pay attention to you when you
1:08:45
ask him a question, but that's just how he is.
1:08:48
Hey, I know he may have yelled at you, but he does that because
1:08:51
of this. This is what he wants.
1:08:54
You need a player like that to kind of be a, a, a coach in that
1:08:57
room with you to get the other guys on board.
1:09:00
Because I mean, when you think about Virginia Tech, those guys
1:09:03
have been through what, 3 coaches in four years, something
1:09:07
like that? Three coaches in three years, 3
1:09:09
coaches. There's no, no stability there.
1:09:13
So when you have a guy that comes with the coach and he's
1:09:17
able to tell him like, hey, I've been with coach for three years,
1:09:21
four years, whatever it's been. And man, he's helped me a ton do
1:09:25
this. And you can go back and look at
1:09:28
his tape. You know, the other guys,
1:09:30
they've been with him. He recruited them.
1:09:31
But you can go and look at this guy and say he's done it.
1:09:35
You know what I'm saying? He's played at a high level.
1:09:38
He's produced at a high level. And this is the coach that
1:09:41
helped him got there. So I'm excited about it.
1:09:44
But also, you know, if I just had to throw somebody else.
1:09:47
Al Turner, is it Al Turner? Yeah, he.
1:09:50
Yeah. Al Turner.
1:09:50
Yeah. He his, his upside is, is nice.
1:09:54
You know, you know, much different when you go look at
1:09:57
offense alignment in high school, because most of the time
1:09:59
they're bigger and faster than people that are playing.
1:10:01
So it's hard to take take from high school.
1:10:04
But he seems to have a high ceiling when you just go look at
1:10:07
what he was able to do and you know, his ranking and things
1:10:11
like that. And plus, I've seen him in the
1:10:13
I've seen him in the in the, in the recruiting when he was out
1:10:19
in his recruiting pictures. Hey, the man had on some retro
1:10:22
fours. If I got an offense, a white
1:10:24
offensive lineman that's got some retro 4 Jordan zone that
1:10:27
mean he'd have been around some black people.
1:10:30
So he understands how this world works and he ain't scared.
1:10:33
He don't get in here. He got a little style about
1:10:35
himself. His daddy already been getting
1:10:38
involved with with hokey Twitter as well.
1:10:41
We need him to do that because we crazy.
1:10:43
We like crazy people. We hope he crazy.
1:10:46
So yeah, man, I'm, I'm excited about the I'm excited that a
1:10:49
coach came in and he brought some shit with it.
1:10:52
You know what I'm saying? Like I'm used to people taking
1:10:55
shit with them leaving. I'm glad he brought some, some
1:10:58
players with him and brought an attitude.
1:11:00
And I'll say this, I got, I do got to give a shout out to, I
1:11:03
won't say no names, but I'll just say a source that I trust.
1:11:08
I was in the room with Matt Moore on a recruiting trip and
1:11:14
he was very impressed with what he's seen and heard from Matt
1:11:18
Moore, his recruiting tactics, how he talks to the high school
1:11:23
kids, how he's already talking about Virginia Tech.
1:11:27
So I didn't see it first hand. But again, the person that I
1:11:32
trust, my family told me that he seen it first hand and gave me a
1:11:39
kind of a breakdown on on what he's seen and what he heard.
1:11:42
And from what he said. Like I'm excited about it
1:11:46
because when you get a lot of time offensive line coaches, I
1:11:49
mean, most people just conceive. It was like meatheads, you know
1:11:53
what I'm saying, you know, cut off sleeves, shirt, spit
1:11:55
tobacco, you know, get out there and block somebody.
1:11:58
But when you got somebody who has it was told to me can break
1:12:02
stuff down like, Hey, when I get you in as a as a senior, you
1:12:06
know, now you're a senior in high school.
1:12:09
This is what what you need to do this year.
1:12:11
This is what I expect you to do this year.
1:12:13
And then when you come in as a freshman, you'll be doing this,
1:12:16
breaking it down like that to a lineman, because a lot of times
1:12:20
lineman are overlooked by a lot of people.
1:12:23
But when you have somebody who will pour into them because I
1:12:27
mean, who's the who's the highest paid people in the NFL?
1:12:34
The guy who's throwing the ball, guy who's catching the ball, guy
1:12:37
who's stopping the dude from catching the ball and the guy
1:12:39
who was protecting the guy from throwing the ball, that's
1:12:42
throwing the ball. And probably the guy who's
1:12:44
rushing the guy throwing the ball.
1:12:45
So when you start talking about offensive lineman, they're very
1:12:49
important. And as fans, we don't really pay
1:12:53
attention to that until you get in something like we was in this
1:12:56
year and you're like, damn, we need sponsors line.
1:12:57
And so I'm excited about Matt Moore being there and bringing
1:13:02
some, bringing some kids with it.
1:13:04
If you don't have at least a good offensive line, you are
1:13:07
lowering the ceiling on the talent of the rest of the
1:13:10
offense. You are that.
1:13:11
You are that on a show. Look at this.
1:13:13
I'm sorry. I was, I was just going to
1:13:15
piggyback a little bit on on totally there.
1:13:21
You know, you talk about the importance of the offensive line
1:13:23
and I think you know, what we've had a problem with and what I'm
1:13:27
hoping that, you know, Matt Moore can help us solve is the
1:13:33
development piece. And the, you know, Tally, you
1:13:38
talked about it bringing some talent with you.
1:13:40
So if, if we had a big criticism of this staff on the recruiting
1:13:45
side, they've done pretty well recruiting overall, I feel.
1:13:49
But the coaches that came in didn't bring a whole lot with
1:13:52
them from wherever they came from previously.
1:13:55
They they didn't bring a whole lot with them, right.
1:13:57
This hire, he's bringing some with him.
1:14:01
So I think that speaks to the culture.
1:14:03
And as as you pointed out, Tally, you're getting some, some
1:14:05
good initial feedback from folks on the road as well.
1:14:09
So that that bodes well for the future as well all.
1:14:13
Right. I'm going to ask you this real
1:14:14
quick. First of all, Al Tuner love.
1:14:16
Get him good counsel, kid. Good counsel up in Maryland,
1:14:19
kid. That's, that's it.
1:14:21
That's a good football program. Second, Brian and Ali, y'all,
1:14:25
y'all watch a little bit of Remack.
1:14:29
Can he play left tackle? Because he didn't have the
1:14:30
opportunity to play left tackle because Wyatt Malin's been
1:14:33
there. And Wyatt Malin's getting taken
1:14:35
very high in the draft somewhere in the first 3 rounds because he
1:14:38
had the capability to kick outside.
1:14:40
He's 6/6, so he's already got the height.
1:14:43
He's got the physical tool. I mean, he's, he's, you know,
1:14:46
6/6, 3:15-ish. So I mean, he's got the, the
1:14:50
size and the, the physicals. I haven't watched enough tape
1:14:53
on, on his foot speed to tell you whether he can handle that,
1:14:58
that level of step outside. And you know, like you said with
1:15:02
Mylan there, there wasn't really a a big opportunity for anybody
1:15:06
else to get a bunch of run, especially when you were already
1:15:08
good enough to get on the field elsewhere.
1:15:11
So I'm, I think it would, it wouldn't hurt to try them out
1:15:17
there, especially if you don't get another guy that has seen
1:15:21
some significant snaps that left tackle at the collegiate level,
1:15:25
you know, before the start of spring ball.
1:15:27
So it couldn't hurt. And, and I don't, I don't know
1:15:31
if that's something Matt Moore explores or if, you know, he's
1:15:33
going to keep him where he's comfortable because he knows
1:15:35
what that level of play looks like.
1:15:38
I just hope he goes and gives somebody another tackle.
1:15:41
Yeah. You know, I think that he has
1:15:44
yeah, I think that he's got the the prowess and the and the
1:15:49
recruiting skills to go get one. You know, I I just hope that he
1:15:53
can. I know that this getting few and
1:15:56
far between, but hell, with the way this portal stuff works, you
1:15:59
never know who's going to jump in the portal next.
1:16:00
So I I hope we go get another tackle or like you said,
1:16:06
somebody who can at least have some have some significant
1:16:10
snaps. So we're not pushing somebody to
1:16:13
do something and we're letting them go with a comfortable hood.
1:16:17
So. You're on mute, Curtis.
1:16:25
All right. Let's look over to the ball now
1:16:26
and kind of pull you out with that talk about the secondary,
1:16:32
Callie, what we had conversations to become.
1:16:36
Hey, Curtis, can't, Can't hear you, bud.
1:16:37
You're still. Sound like you're in a fishbowl.
1:16:39
How about now? Oh.
1:16:40
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, you're good.
1:16:42
Callie, me and you were talking and we were talking to some
1:16:45
people out there was like, why are we getting so many secondary
1:16:47
guys and all this bullshit? Because they all was gone, we
1:16:51
have none. Two corners left.
1:16:54
Yeah, you had Q reddish in the room by itself.
1:16:57
Pretty much. That's it.
1:17:00
Who else you got? You got?
1:17:02
Yeah, you had. Jaylen Jones is gone.
1:17:05
Gone. Stroman is gone.
1:17:07
Stroke is going to Notre Dame. He was hurt all last year.
1:17:11
We still been saying Phillips is gone.
1:17:15
Who else? Delane's at LSU.
1:17:18
Delane's at LSU. Wrongs going to be getting
1:17:20
drafted. I'm gone.
1:17:22
We got some young talent, you know, we got some young guys,
1:17:25
but I think the coaches know they have to win next year.
1:17:29
They got to find a way to put a good product on the on the field
1:17:33
next year when it's not going to be, oh, let's develop these
1:17:35
guys. You know, like I ain't saying
1:17:38
nobody's getting fired. I'm just saying you can't keep
1:17:40
losing games by 1 score. You can't, you got to win and
1:17:44
they can't say, well, you know, we had an injury.
1:17:47
So that's what happened. You got to have enough.
1:17:50
And I just know that I feel like they're like, well, we can't put
1:17:53
our eggs in one basket. You know, I now I feel like, and
1:17:59
this is going to get off topic a little bit, but I definitely
1:18:05
wish we still had Chaplin. Definitely wish we had Chaplin,
1:18:12
but at the same time, for what they needed to pay Chaplin, what
1:18:17
he got paid, we needed so much stuff on that line.
1:18:21
I don't know that we could have did it to give one person this
1:18:25
amount or two people that amount, but we need 5, you know,
1:18:30
so we got to kind of divvy that up over five to six people.
1:18:33
I mean, on that offensive line, we need eight people to go.
1:18:38
We need eight people to be ready to go that can protect the
1:18:41
quarterback. So sometimes it's a committee
1:18:44
thing. And I feel like what they looked
1:18:46
at in the portal was we might have to do it by committee.
1:18:52
You know, even when you start looking at like wide receivers,
1:18:55
oh, we got a lot of wide receivers or why we recruiting
1:18:58
this? I mean, we had we were throwing
1:19:01
feet. Jennings was hurt, Jay Lane was
1:19:05
hurt. If y'all don't know, Gosnell was
1:19:08
hurt, I don't know if Kwan got banged up, but it's a football.
1:19:11
It's a football season. You know, we got to have people
1:19:14
that we can plug into different places because that's why you
1:19:18
lose those games, because you're playing people that's hurt.
1:19:20
You don't have enough depth and then the depth that you have
1:19:23
behind it is really young and inexperienced or they just don't
1:19:27
have the talent level to really be playing it.
1:19:31
The powerful level, you know, some of the people that we may
1:19:34
have had on the team. So with that, if I'm a coach,
1:19:38
I'm going out and I'm getting everything I can.
1:19:41
If you can play, come in here and try to get you a spot
1:19:45
because like we had Ground Zero. Like nobody has anything
1:19:50
guaranteed. You got to go out and you got to
1:19:52
earn it. The coaches mindset was, and it
1:19:57
should be. You know, the coaches got to
1:19:58
earn it. I'd be telling them that if I
1:20:00
was proud, I'd be like, hey man, y'all ain't guaranteed nothing
1:20:05
unless you're fine tell because you keep on fucking recruiting
1:20:08
your ass off. We just ain't going to say
1:20:09
nothing to you. I got a too, but it's like come
1:20:13
on, dog, you got to you got to six and seven is not good.
1:20:17
Nobody should be comfortable. That's why in.
1:20:20
Between, you know, when we look at the inconsistency that we had
1:20:24
at that, at that position, we look at a Stroman that had some
1:20:29
struggles staying on the field, whether it was injuries, whether
1:20:32
it was targeting dismissals, you know, whatever it may be,
1:20:38
Stroban played what, a handful of games in two years like.
1:20:44
At some point you got to be. Available if you're going to
1:20:46
contribute. Stroman played 1/4 this year.
1:20:49
Yeah, so so. 1/4 at Vanderbilt and we never got to see him this
1:20:52
year so at some. Point you got to be available if
1:20:55
you want to be an asset. Yeah, Jaylen Jones was a
1:20:58
converted wide receiver. Yep.
1:21:01
And did a great job for us, you know, did what he could do.
1:21:05
Did what he could do. But at the same time, it's like,
1:21:09
what's his level at the level of the guys we're bringing in?
1:21:11
I don't think so, you know. I mean, he he the attempt was
1:21:17
like the ceiling was is he, you know, divine Diablo, but like he
1:21:21
never got, he never got past serviceable safety.
1:21:25
Like he's a guy that you wouldn't mind having and you're
1:21:28
too deep, but he's not a guy. And unfortunately we had to be a
1:21:32
front line player for a lot of snaps game to game.
1:21:37
And so that that was the problem.
1:21:39
You know, you, you throw in most Phillips who's a, who's a
1:21:42
talented player, but was young and still learning a lot and,
1:21:47
and made a bunch of mistakes and we we saw those out there.
1:21:50
So I mean there was and, and those guys are no longer with
1:21:54
us. You got a, you got a backfield
1:21:56
and you got a backfield with guys that have seen it and done
1:21:58
it and that you got enough tape. Or you can say I can rely on
1:22:02
these guys at this position because that's one thing that
1:22:06
this secondary, you know, it was, we considered that
1:22:10
cornerback room a big asset. We considered the safety room a
1:22:13
big liability at the start of 2024.
1:22:15
Everybody talked about it. We talked about it.
1:22:18
You know, linebacker room was probably the only other room
1:22:20
that, you know, was a bigger concern, right?
1:22:22
So when we look at safety, I feel a lot better about safety
1:22:29
right now than I felt at any point heading into 2024 or for
1:22:34
the duration of the 2024 season, especially once you had a
1:22:37
Strowman go down in the first game and and found out pretty
1:22:40
quickly that you probably weren't going to get him back at
1:22:42
any point during the season. So I feel a lot better about
1:22:46
what we've done here. And, and when it comes to
1:22:48
secondary, you can never have too many of those guys because
1:22:51
those guys play a lot of snaps. They're running a lot, they're
1:22:53
all over the field safety wise. You got a lot of big collisions.
1:22:56
So I mean, you can't have too many of those guys back there
1:22:59
that you think you can, can trust and rely on.
1:23:04
So do you have a, do y'all have a particular favorite or like
1:23:07
who's the guy that stuck out? Whether you read stats, looked
1:23:10
at tape and said that's the guy right there.
1:23:14
Talk about it in the the defensive backfield.
1:23:16
Yeah, DB because we got 6. Yeah, I'm going to tell you who
1:23:19
my favorite was, and not for the reason.
1:23:21
Well, I'm going to tell you the reason.
1:23:23
Q Reddish's brother. That's who my favorite is.
1:23:26
Let me tell you why you got to play the game within the
1:23:31
football game. There's another reddish brother
1:23:33
that's still in high school. You.
1:23:35
May try to go get you got to play the game, man.
1:23:38
You got to play the game. So he's at AD 2.
1:23:42
You know, I don't I don't even watch film.
1:23:44
I don't know what he can do. I don't care what he can do.
1:23:46
You just get him. But you got people coming at Q
1:23:49
Reddish because Reddish can play Reddish is the future for us in
1:23:53
that defensive backfield. And why don't you shut
1:23:57
everything down and you go talk to the parents and say, what if
1:23:59
I can get all of your boys together?
1:24:01
So you're just going to watch one game?
1:24:04
Y'all are just coming here. You're just going to watch
1:24:06
Virginia Tech. We going to take care of your
1:24:08
boys. We going to take care of you.
1:24:10
So we go and we get his brother and we bring his brother in and
1:24:14
then I see if the brothers tweet and all we still got one more to
1:24:16
bring. We still got one more out here.
1:24:18
And then, you know, I don't know how that works out that if the
1:24:21
younger brother comes, but I mean, you got to you got to be
1:24:25
able to do things like that. And I feel like we've missed the
1:24:28
marks on in the past, especially with the last regime of taking
1:24:33
the layups, you know, because when you go get his brother, you
1:24:36
keep you potentially with that signing.
1:24:39
It shows me that you ain't you ain't fucking around like you,
1:24:42
you taking it serious. But it also keeps Q here and
1:24:47
engaged and brothers can talk to each other different, you know
1:24:51
what I'm saying? They they seem like a talented
1:24:53
family. So and the older brother has
1:24:55
seen some stuff that probably the young brother hadn't.
1:24:58
So he's like, hey, man, even if Q is starting or he's getting
1:25:01
more snaps, like I can see you're not doing this right.
1:25:05
You know you going to listen to your brother a little bit
1:25:07
different than you listen to any other any other teammate because
1:25:11
y'all got that bond like that. So and it falls along with what
1:25:15
Virginia Tech is. How many brothers have we had
1:25:18
like if there's a brother out there, go get them.
1:25:20
I'm mad at them because they didn't get Woodson's brother get
1:25:23
him too. You know what I'm saying?
1:25:24
If there's a brother out there, bring him to Virginia Tech Look
1:25:27
at the gods nail brothers. You put them on the field
1:25:30
together. They play good together like I
1:25:31
just I was excited to see them play the game within the game.
1:25:35
You know, even if I don't, even if the older or reddish brother
1:25:39
then log a ton of snaps, like I said, I haven't did a lot of
1:25:43
tape on him. I was just excited that our
1:25:44
coaches, are they getting in the fight, You know what I'm saying?
1:25:48
Taking it serious. Yeah, and, and the the youngest
1:25:51
reddish is effectively the highest rated out of them coming
1:25:55
out of school. I'll tell you who I like in
1:25:58
Tally Me. And you talked about it and you
1:25:59
watched a little tape on them and then you sold me about an
1:26:03
hour ago. Isaiah Brown maybe screw his
1:26:08
name up. Probably screw his name up.
1:26:09
Y'all know I can do that. I'm.
1:26:10
Good Brown Murray. Brown.
1:26:11
Because I have Brown Murray. Because you said it and you said
1:26:14
it perfectly this year we have to have a nickel cornerback.
1:26:18
They have to be specifically made for that.
1:26:20
Derek Canteen was that he unfortunately left because he
1:26:23
wanted to play a little bit more Brown Murray basically is that
1:26:28
and he's got two years of eligibility left.
1:26:31
You probably, you probably sold that to him.
1:26:34
You're going to start at nickel and we rotate nickel in that
1:26:37
that star position all the time. And I think cuz that solidifies
1:26:41
right there. You know, we know Lovett can
1:26:42
play and now you drop him in. It's like we got a nickel, we
1:26:47
got a corner. We got to figure out the other
1:26:49
side between Reddish or one of these other guys.
1:26:53
That's who I'm excited about. What about you, Brian?
1:26:55
What about these guys? Anybody just like?
1:26:58
Yep. You know what I like?
1:27:01
I like both Tyson Flowers and Christian Ellis.
1:27:07
Yeah, I think maybe Flowers just by a a hair here.
1:27:11
I like his size, you know, just, you know, about two 11/6 foot.
1:27:17
I mean, I think I think that's a guy that's going to be a big
1:27:20
asset back there for us and the safety and you're looking at his
1:27:24
tape and and things like that. I think he's going to give us a
1:27:27
consistency of play and a, a discipline, a controlled chaos
1:27:33
that we haven't really had at that position in a while.
1:27:37
And, and probably Stroman came the closest to that when he was
1:27:40
healthy and eligible. But I, I, I think we're, we're
1:27:45
going to see some big things from him.
1:27:46
I think he's going to definitely make a big impact in 2025.
1:27:52
And you know the other big part about getting it?
1:27:54
And again, Charlie, this is the game within a game we continue
1:27:57
to talk about. You now do not have to put the
1:28:01
middle Reddish in probably a bad position for his career because
1:28:05
he played solid this year. But we know it's like you're a
1:28:10
sophomore, you're very still young to the college game.
1:28:13
We saw with most Phillips last year, we saw with his freshman
1:28:15
year. He's still making a ton of
1:28:17
mistakes where we know as a safety, if you fuck up, it's
1:28:24
over. Yeah, you laugh at the fence.
1:28:26
You you blow a coverage, you missed a tackle, you missed a
1:28:29
gap. It's done and I think to me like
1:28:33
that's the game within a game. That's also talking to the
1:28:35
parents, right talent saying, hey, listen, we're not going to
1:28:37
put Q in a situation where he's going to screw up his career
1:28:41
where I could put him out there because we're bringing all these
1:28:44
other guys. We're getting everything ready.
1:28:46
Not so much this year, but next year he's going to be our dog as
1:28:51
a safety. So anything else on the
1:28:54
secondary room which is completely remade.
1:28:56
If you've got your favorite, throw it in the chat.
1:28:58
We'd love to hear it. Love seeing Kogel come back
1:29:00
home. Should have came here to begin
1:29:02
with. It's all I'm going to say.
1:29:05
Let's go to the front 7 now and four guys there.
1:29:10
I still can't figure out what they're doing with one of them,
1:29:12
but any any favorites on that Bass Priest or Nash?
1:29:18
The outcome? Obviously Jordan Bass is a big
1:29:22
fucking name and a big deal in a room that needs some consistency
1:29:28
and some experience. And you know, you know, Bass is
1:29:33
now a player that has had a little bit of run and I think
1:29:37
it's kind of ready to take the next step.
1:29:39
And I think we're going to give him a good opportunity to to be
1:29:42
a big time player in the middle of that defense.
1:29:48
Kylie, you got anybody? And yeah, of course you want to
1:29:53
say bass. I was preaching that from the
1:29:54
beginning just because it gives you so much athleticism.
1:29:58
They are like Brian said in that in that linebacker rule.
1:30:01
But anytime you get somebody, you know, on the defensive line
1:30:06
that has some production because I feel like you got to be built
1:30:09
in the trenches. Haven't watched a ton of tape on
1:30:12
Nash, but watched a little bit Nash's.
1:30:18
Nash's from what I've seen, serviceable and we ain't even.
1:30:22
Are we talking about? Are we talking about what's his
1:30:25
name the ginger guy yet? Have we talked about?
1:30:27
Him. I said junk them I I know I
1:30:29
butchered the poor guy's name. Yeah, junk them I.
1:30:32
I don't even, I don't know how to pronounce it.
1:30:34
I just know he calls himself the ginger freak or something like
1:30:36
that and he was suflexing somebody and smiling in a
1:30:40
picture. I need him on my team.
1:30:42
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, let me see.
1:30:44
Let me let me see what he doing because I I got a feeling that I
1:30:47
mean, he's got a lot of production from what him coming
1:30:50
from like Eastern Michigan or wherever he came from.
1:30:53
And I feel like he's around that same size as as Lord have mercy.
1:31:01
Come on, Brian, help me out with a name.
1:31:03
I'm doing the Curtis. Oh man. 16 sack man.
1:31:07
Oh APR. APR APR There we go.
1:31:09
Damn Sally Tally. Really blinking?
1:31:12
Yeah, same size. Not saying it's going to be the
1:31:15
same production because I don't want to put that on the kid, but
1:31:20
him coming off the edge is going to be scary.
1:31:22
So I'll be excited to see what he does and how he progresses in
1:31:28
the defense. But again, I still think we need
1:31:33
need a little help there in the trenches because like I said
1:31:35
that it's built in the trenches, offensive line, defensive line,
1:31:39
everything else doesn't matter. You got Woodson back there, you
1:31:42
got Bass back there. You get these safeties in, you
1:31:44
got to have somebody that keeps them off of them.
1:31:47
You know, you got to have some guys that are going to require
1:31:50
some double team to keep them offline linebacker.
1:31:53
So I'll be interested to see what they do in that room.
1:31:55
But I do like Nash and I do like the the champion for you.
1:32:00
Yeah, John could definitely, but brings a lot of upside.
1:32:04
You know, he's kind of one of those guys where you based on
1:32:08
his production already much like APR you do that he was going to
1:32:12
be able to come in and at worst kind of rate raise the the level
1:32:16
of play based on what you already got on your roster.
1:32:19
You know, the question is going to be can he pop and have that
1:32:22
that high ceiling that we saw from an APR, What's that ceiling
1:32:26
going to look like? I mean, this is a guy that you
1:32:29
know a bunch of tackles for loss, you know, all Max
1:32:33
selection. He's a guy that I think can can
1:32:37
make some plays. We've we've seen his ability
1:32:39
there when he ramps up the level of play to the power forward
1:32:45
level, are we going to see a drop off?
1:32:47
I think that's the only thing that you would maybe be
1:32:49
concerned about with him is that, you know, is, is a step up
1:32:52
and level play. And he he played some talented
1:32:54
competition. Obviously he's a guy that was
1:32:55
AP4 recruit out of high school. So I mean he's seen he's seen
1:32:59
the competition level before. You know, is he going to be able
1:33:03
to to level up that play as a kind of a full time, you know,
1:33:06
starter or rotational player in this defense?
1:33:08
Brian, let me ask something quick because I again, I didn't
1:33:11
watch the full game. I know y'all did and Chad, I
1:33:14
know some of y'all was at the game and watch the game.
1:33:17
A lot of people like what they say from Emmett Laws in the in
1:33:21
the Mayo Bowl. Did y'all get to watch him in
1:33:23
here Curtis? Y'all know I can't, I, I'm not
1:33:26
like y'all, I can't just watch the line like I have to sit
1:33:29
there with y'all and watch it. So.
1:33:32
But from what I heard, people were giving him kudos, the way
1:33:35
he held leverage, the way he shot gaps quick.
1:33:37
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the, the, the
1:33:39
quickness jumps out real, real quick.
1:33:43
And, you know, you combine that with a, with a good amount of
1:33:46
power, especially for a kid that, you know, hadn't really
1:33:48
been in a weight program like that for a while.
1:33:53
The the fact that he's able to pop that quick, I think is very,
1:33:56
very encouraging for the interior, that defensive line.
1:34:00
Right. Yeah.
1:34:01
So I don't know. I just thought about that
1:34:03
because I'm looking at looking at Nash and his size and just
1:34:08
the things he done because thank Josh for putting in the chat.
1:34:11
Nash had a good year. You know, a lot of people said
1:34:13
he could have been like he said, first team, but he just had
1:34:17
somebody else that was playing with him that was good as well.
1:34:20
So it'll be interesting to see because it did you.
1:34:24
This is what this is what blows my mind sometimes, Curtis, when
1:34:27
you have people that they'll see somebody recruit, recruit, go
1:34:32
somewhere and they go, oh, he came from this school.
1:34:34
He's got to suck or he can't be. But then when you go look at
1:34:37
just say like what two years ago, Florida State had Jared
1:34:40
Verse, right? We go look when we when we when
1:34:43
we did our our show on them, Jared Verse didn't come out of
1:34:46
school and go straight to Florida State.
1:34:48
He came from yeah, small schools then transfers in different
1:34:55
things like that. In this in this climate, people
1:34:58
are going to transfer and when kids go to a small school,
1:35:01
they're looking for the, the they're looking to go bigger so
1:35:05
they can get to their ultimate goal, you know, either a bigger
1:35:08
NIL or ultimately the NFL. So I've never discount a kid
1:35:13
just because he came from a smaller school.
1:35:16
You know, production is production.
1:35:18
I just hope when they get here they can progress that
1:35:21
production. Yep, I think the the big thing
1:35:23
with that is that a lot of times, you know, kids that get
1:35:27
recruited out of high school, sometimes the fit and the
1:35:29
opportunity aren't there. So they go to a place where they
1:35:32
have some fit and some opportunity and get to showcase
1:35:35
their ability. And then you're like, OK, well,
1:35:39
they've they've shown what they can do.
1:35:41
You got some tape. That's something that these
1:35:42
other schools that may fit that mold a little bit better and
1:35:45
have seen what they can do in that similar style of of system.
1:35:49
They can say, all right, well, I can I can see that leveling up
1:35:52
here. I can see that working here.
1:35:53
You know, I, I think he feels a need that we that we have, you
1:35:57
know, when think about like a defensive line, like all right,
1:35:59
well, you got a you got a big in, but you want a guy that can
1:36:02
really get after the passer or, you know, you got that guy to
1:36:05
get after the passer. But we need a big in that can,
1:36:07
you know, be good against the run.
1:36:08
You know you got guys that have shown that in a similar type of
1:36:12
system and that's where where you can get those comps and you
1:36:14
can get those guys from the FCS is the.
1:36:18
D Twos. The the G5, even the D twos.
1:36:20
Yeah, it's true. Kind of, you know, level up and
1:36:23
and and we've seen some success. I mean, you even look at, you
1:36:27
know, what Manny Diaz did with Duke and bring in a bunch of,
1:36:31
you know, FCS and division two offensive lineman and turning
1:36:35
that team around in one year. I mean it, it's, it's not
1:36:39
something that, you know, these, these guys.
1:36:41
Play at these different levels. You got to be talent everywhere,
1:36:44
just like Josh. Yeah, just like Josh said, I
1:36:47
mean first came from. Albany.
1:36:49
It was Buffalo. I'm sorry, I was a slightly.
1:36:51
No, no, you're good. But then if that's too far back,
1:36:55
if y'all too young and that's too far back.
1:36:58
If you watched any of the college football playoffs this
1:37:01
year, who probably jumped out to you was Cam Scatterball?
1:37:05
Yep. You know, we started his college
1:37:07
career. Sacramento State.
1:37:12
DDFCS. Sacramento State.
1:37:15
So I don't want to hear about well, this just because we got
1:37:19
this. He must do this man, sometimes.
1:37:21
Sometimes a kid needs, sometimes they just need the opportunity
1:37:25
so. It's all play.
1:37:26
I think what we're seeing nowadays is like you've got kids
1:37:29
with talent and what you have to be able to do is you've got to
1:37:33
start playing because if you don't get the opportunity to
1:37:36
play, ain't nobody looking at you.
1:37:37
Nobody can tell. Well, he's a five star.
1:37:40
He ain't seen the field. I don't know what he can do, and
1:37:42
you're seeing the blue bloods do it as well as every other school
1:37:46
do it. Now.
1:37:47
I need somebody I know that can step on that field and play
1:37:50
well. He played D2 competition.
1:37:52
I don't care if he played D2 competition.
1:37:54
He had 21 sacks. He was killing everybody down
1:37:57
there. He has A63 frame, he's 260 lbs.
1:38:02
He can bend. He's got explosion.
1:38:06
That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter if it's D2
1:38:09
or wherever it is. He's got those things.
1:38:11
You can bring him here and and that's why you're seeing it.
1:38:14
It's actually one of the better things that's happened in
1:38:16
college football because you're seeing guys who would never, you
1:38:20
never hear the names. You never hear the names, and
1:38:24
the next thing you know you are hearing the names because
1:38:26
they're taking flash. Those guys you get.
1:38:28
To hope get a a combine offer and pop at the combine now.
1:38:32
Now you actually get some college tape with them and they
1:38:34
get that combine invite by default because they played at
1:38:36
those other schools as they were kind of trending up throughout
1:38:39
their career. We're calling all these names
1:38:41
out and all we. I should have just started with
1:38:43
this name. Basil Tooton.
1:38:46
Basil Tooton. North Carolina A&T.
1:38:48
Basil Tooton, man. I mean, who?
1:38:51
Who would have thought? Well, I mean I'm sure he did,
1:38:55
but as far as the college Lancet goes, even some Virginia Tech
1:38:58
fans, who would have thought this kid comes in to Virginia
1:39:01
Tech plays two years here, breaks the record for the most
1:39:05
yards in the game. Like it just wasn't stood man,
1:39:07
you know what I'm saying? Playing behind a shitty
1:39:09
offensive line to be able to do what he did to get 1000 yards,
1:39:14
like he had a decent off in line.
1:39:17
He made a ran for two and he was hurt.
1:39:18
How many games did he miss? Like even that, you know what
1:39:21
I'm saying? In other landscapes, as much as
1:39:24
people say, well, I hate the portal.
1:39:26
Well, I hate the way that college football is now.
1:39:29
You know, we would have never had the and I told somebody this
1:39:32
on the timeline and we, I said the portal has done a lot of
1:39:35
stuff for us that we didn't have.
1:39:37
Our best defensive player came through the portal.
1:39:40
Our best offensive players came through the portal.
1:39:42
That's just what it is. Not a lot.
1:39:45
Our three best running backs in this coaching regime and the
1:39:48
last came from the portal. Yeah, so you can hate the portal
1:39:53
all you want, you just, you just hate that you, you feel like
1:39:56
your coach isn't using it to correct.
1:39:58
But I'm going to go back to giving kudos again.
1:40:02
This coaching staff has not missed much on evals.
1:40:05
They know how to eval. The portal, the port, their
1:40:09
portal evals have been good. So I'm on, I'm on, I'm gonna let
1:40:13
them cook. Let them.
1:40:15
Their high school evals have been pretty good too, because
1:40:17
the guys that have seen significant playing time have
1:40:19
popped, even if they haven't necessarily been consistent and
1:40:22
settled. They pop.
1:40:23
They've shown the talent is there.
1:40:27
All right. Well, that's going to wrap up
1:40:29
the portal. And yes, Josh, it gives and it
1:40:31
takes away. We know all about that because
1:40:35
if we look at where our guys who left went, only one went down
1:40:39
significantly. And when I say that 9 to D1 like
1:40:44
6 to G5, only one to an FCS school.
1:40:48
Yeah, and I mean, and, and, and shockingly, we've somehow, you
1:40:52
know, flipped that in a way where rankings wise, we got more
1:40:58
in than we than we sent out and we were worried about how much
1:41:00
we sent out, right. So I I think that that shows
1:41:03
that that we're doing pretty good with the portal between the
1:41:07
guys we landed between where we sit, I think was with some of
1:41:11
this some of the guys that are still out there is this this
1:41:13
cycle kind of wraps up here, but.
1:41:15
We don't, we know we need, we need one more defensive lineman.
1:41:18
We need one more offensive lineman.
1:41:20
If they were to get those in the next week along with making one
1:41:25
more exceptional hire. They won the offseason again.
1:41:28
They go have a saying stupid shit between now and August.
1:41:32
Yep, Yep. I'll say this, the moves they
1:41:37
made this offseason have made the roster deeper.
1:41:44
We'll see whether the talent level is raised, but the roster
1:41:48
is deeper and it's deeper at the positions that we were poor at
1:41:52
last year. 100% All right. Real quick, Brian, as we start
1:41:57
wrapping this thing up, did you get a chance to do your thing or
1:42:01
were you busy at work? Too busy man.
1:42:03
It's been I've been drinking from a fire hose this whole.
1:42:05
Week all right all right I just asked all right real quick if
1:42:08
y'all don't know national championship game Monday night
1:42:11
stupidest thing they can do let's put it on a Monday night
1:42:14
let's kill all these working people who like college football
1:42:18
names stay up till midnight on the.
1:42:19
Monday. It's on Monday.
1:42:22
That's Martin Luther King Day, ain't it?
1:42:24
Yes, it is. Oh.
1:42:25
Yeah, people aren't working. Black folks will be off, we
1:42:28
take. But you got to work the next
1:42:29
day. The game kicks off at 8:00.
1:42:31
Tonight we don't worry about that.
1:42:32
We barbecuing that day, we got that.
1:42:35
Funny tally. All right, real quick for us who
1:42:37
are not here. I never heard anything from
1:42:38
Sheldon Sheldon's busy y'all. But our music man, Jason, he's
1:42:43
got actually a few things right. He made a bet for the Irish to
1:42:47
win the national championship about two months ago at 20 to
1:42:50
one. He has not told us how much he
1:42:52
put on that. I'm going to find out that in
1:42:55
the next couple days. But he's got Irish cover to win.
1:42:57
I write a Miranda Ohio State with the win, but the Irish
1:43:01
cover Jonathan Talley. What was the question?
1:43:06
I'm sorry. Who's one of the national title
1:43:08
and is? It.
1:43:09
Oh yeah, I thought y'all already knew that.
1:43:10
It's Ohio State, man. Ohio State.
1:43:12
How much 2121? Wanted to make sure you stuck on
1:43:17
it because you texted me 21. He said.
1:43:19
He said 3 touchdowns. 3 touchdowns.
1:43:20
He said he said uninstered testing game.
1:43:23
Do you BBQ celebrate MLK day prime?
1:43:29
I've got So with that, with that modest 8, I got the Irish to
1:43:31
cover Ohio State to win. And I'm LeBron.
1:43:35
I think Ohio State wins the Irish to cover.
1:43:40
I mean, all they're going to do is lean on the Virginia boys.
1:43:45
Man, don't talk about it. Don't.
1:43:47
Talk I mean it just pisses me off when I see 91 and 30 when I
1:43:50
thought 32 do what he did on Friday night.
1:43:52
That made me so fucking mad when he took that little screen out
1:43:56
just. Yeah.
1:43:58
Why? Anyway, anything else before we
1:44:01
wrap it up tonight, boys? You know what, just sitting here
1:44:07
watching some of the the, the way that game against NC State
1:44:10
wrapped up, just going to give a little bit more kudos to the
1:44:12
basketball team for, for gutting one out, especially being down
1:44:15
15 early in the second-half there.
1:44:18
So that was a that was a gutsy win.
1:44:23
I don't think this is a a very talented team, but I think it's
1:44:26
a very gritty team. I'm trying to look up a stat for
1:44:31
you, Curtis, before we get off here, All right?
1:44:33
This is why I say it's going to be a blowout.
1:44:36
Why you say it's going to be a blowout?
1:44:37
Last five years 2024 or last year 34 to 13. 21 points. 202365
1:44:48
to seven. That's the ugly one. 202233 to
1:44:52
18. 15. Kind of close, right, 15/20/21.
1:44:57
That's an interesting game. 5224.
1:45:00
That ain't interesting. 20204225 you can go back to 20194416.
1:45:10
These guys ain't close, man. People keep arguing about, oh, I
1:45:14
can't believe they messed up college football and these games
1:45:17
aren't interesting, I said. When has the national
1:45:20
championship game been interested in the last five
1:45:23
years? Might want to go back.
1:45:26
It might have been 2018. I had it pulled up.
1:45:30
I think you're right. I think 2018 was the last 18.
1:45:33
Was the last interesting one. Yeah.
1:45:35
Is it right? Was that Batman, Clemson?
1:45:37
They have Batman, Clemson 20. That was George, that was the
1:45:42
two, the two when they beat the guy on the cover 2 on the
1:45:47
corner. Yeah, I mean come on man, like
1:45:49
y'all people be for. People 17.
1:45:51
Years ago, what have you done for the game?
1:45:54
These people be in their own worlds.
1:45:57
I was like, man, I'm enjoying the games.
1:45:58
I don't care who, losing who. What about, you know, everybody
1:46:01
kept telling us we won't get good games.
1:46:03
The games Thursday and Friday were good.
1:46:06
We stayed up playing poker and literally till the last of those
1:46:09
games and then Friday night. If Steve Sarkeesian gets get his
1:46:13
head out of his ass, why are you running a pistol toss 9 yards
1:46:16
behind the loud scrimmage against Ohio State?
1:46:19
He didn't want to win, man. He was drunk.
1:46:21
He was already. All right, don't joke about that
1:46:23
because he might have been drunk.
1:46:24
We know the history there. We know the history there.
1:46:28
Anything else y'all want to say? We didn't win an hour 45?
1:46:32
Hey, listen, we'll say this. If there is a coaching
1:46:35
announcement for Wednesday next week, we will be here live
1:46:39
probably on Wednesday, depending on basketball schedules.
1:46:43
But anything else, boys, before we go?
1:46:45
I think we get to punch you, brother.
1:46:46
I think we're good to go, man. Shout out to everybody who came
1:46:49
and hung out with us. We know we go a little long.
1:46:52
We know it's a weekday. Y'all always come in and give us
1:46:56
y'all give us great content because a lot of times I don't
1:46:58
know what the hell I'm talking about.
1:47:00
I just listened to Josh in the chat and regurgitate what he's
1:47:04
saying. So appreciate y'all for coming
1:47:06
out. Josh, Chris, all our guys.
1:47:09
And when you're listening to it tomorrow at work, man, just jam.
1:47:12
Have a whatever. We're going to have a positive
1:47:15
mindset. We're going to have a great DC
1:47:16
hire. We going to get this last couple
1:47:20
of pieces in through the portal and we going to start back in
1:47:23
line. There we go.
1:47:24
All right, that's not a lie. That's not a lie.
1:47:29
That is probably true. That wraps up this episode of
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podcast or the randomness of the old room Tylenol.
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As always, we let our buddy Jason Long plays in play us out.
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Check him out at his website jasonlongmusic.com.
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Link to all of his music, any live showings, and everything
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he's got. As always, we appreciate y'all
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for listening and as always, let's go.
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Hokies.