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- 0:55Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
- 1:03Speaker 3: I'm a first-time guest. However, I've been on his show.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Ryan Bailey, star of the Armie Hammer documentary in which
- 1:13Speaker 3: you went to acting class with Armie Hammer. But most
- 1:15Speaker 3: people know you from your very popular podcast, So Bad
- 1:18Speaker 3: It's Good. You also have a great Instagram in which
- 1:20Speaker 3: you do really funny stuff on that. Ryan Bailey, welcome
- 1:24Speaker 3: for the first time. I know this is a dream
- 1:26Speaker 3: come true for you. This is like. Just welcome to
- 1:28Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop. And I want to say he offered to
- 1:30Speaker 3: bring us coffee. And guess what? We took it.
- 1:31Speaker 2: They took it.
- 1:32Speaker 3: We took him up on it with a very detailed order.
- 1:36Speaker 2: All you kids out there listening, this is like being
- 1:38Speaker 2: waved over to the couch by Johnny Carson. I'm telling you,
- 1:40Speaker 2: this is. And you don't even know that reference, I'm sure.
- 1:42Speaker 2: But I think Heather might. Oh, I do.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Of course.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know. You can tell already. We
- 1:48Speaker 2: were talking yesterday. I was like, I've been in a
- 1:49Speaker 2: kid in a candy store all like the last day.
- 1:53Speaker 2: So thank you for having me. And Juicy Scoopers, what's up?
- 1:55Speaker 3: Yes, so let's get into it. Now, I know it's Thursday,
- 1:59Speaker 3: and people are like, Heather, could you stop talking? No
- 2:01Speaker 3: one cares about Halloween, but I have to give some
- 2:03Speaker 3: strong thoughts about some things. Heidi Klum, who's been throwing
- 2:08Speaker 3: this party for like 20 years, dressed up in this
- 2:12Speaker 3: worm thing, and her daughter went for the first time,
- 2:16Speaker 3: and the daughter's really pretty. However, a lot shorter than
- 2:19Speaker 3: her mom.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's odd, isn't it?
- 2:21Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I guess she doesn't have a
- 2:22Speaker 3: relationship with her biological dad, because- I think she sees Seal.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Seal as her dad.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Who was actually her stepdad who then Heidi had three
- 2:30Speaker 3: more kids with but divorced him and now she's married
- 2:33Speaker 3: to someone else.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Anyway, you know, this party has been, I guess, like
- 2:39Speaker 3: a big PR thing and like sponsored by a lot
- 2:42Speaker 3: of people.
- 2:42Speaker 2: She's the queen of Halloween, but it's like self-monikered like
- 2:44Speaker 2: King of Pop was with Michael Jackson.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:46Speaker 2: She self-monikered herself as like, I thought you were just
- 2:49Speaker 2: a supermodel and you're like a judge on America's Got Talent,
- 2:51Speaker 2: but now it's the queen of Halloween. But that's the
- 2:54Speaker 2: title she's given herself.
- 2:56Speaker 3: When she was married to Seal, and she would make
- 3:00Speaker 3: him wear all these, do this. And then they got divorced.
- 3:03Speaker 3: I'm like, this is part of it. It's like some
- 3:05Speaker 3: of these girls that are so into Halloween that forces
- 3:10Speaker 3: their guys. And I get it. We're in this world
- 3:12Speaker 3: of reality stars and social media. So Halloween, especially in LA,
- 3:15Speaker 3: has become a whole other thing. It's work. I got
- 3:18Speaker 3: to go to the party. I got to take the photo.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I got to be something unique. And it's like a
- 3:22Speaker 3: photo shoot for yourself. And then you're forcing your guy
- 3:25Speaker 3: to do this. It's like, I don't think that helped
- 3:29Speaker 3: in their marriage. I really don't.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Would you ever think of like Seal now, like how
- 3:32Speaker 2: ecstatic he is on Halloween?
- 3:34Speaker 3: Just to be like.
- 3:34Speaker 2: He's like, just watching Netflix like the rest of us.
- 3:37Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not dressing up at all again this year.
- 3:39Speaker 2: It's lovely. We just pass out candy.
- 3:41Speaker 3: I know. And I was worried about her last, this
- 3:45Speaker 3: latest husband. Was he, and I don't even know if
- 3:47Speaker 3: we know this is true. Could you look this up, Annie? Yeah.
- 3:50Speaker 3: I saw that she's the worm and there was like
- 3:52Speaker 3: a fisherman off. Maybe he's the fisherman.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I think he was.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Is the current husband the fisherman and then she's the
- 3:58Speaker 3: worm because he's caught a worm or something. The worm
- 4:01Speaker 3: will cut the fish. How she thought of it. It's like,
- 4:04Speaker 3: I guess.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Oh, this is like the Super Bowl Jennifer Lopez half.
- 4:07Speaker 2: There's going to be a Netflix documentary like halftime. Yeah.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Because you're going to see six months in advance. People
- 4:12Speaker 2: are presenting Heidi with ideas. And the thing is, you
- 4:14Speaker 2: said on your Monday show, you're like, you know what,
- 4:16Speaker 2: it's okay, we get offended by the, we don't get
- 4:18Speaker 2: offended by costumes and all that. The worm has gone
- 4:21Speaker 2: too far. We've gone too, like, come on, can we
- 4:23Speaker 2: get offended at least as a nation by this? Because
- 4:25Speaker 2: it's like, she's like, it's cute, it's funny, it's very,
- 4:28Speaker 2: bring people together, it's very happy. And it's not, it's scary.
- 4:31Speaker 3: I do want to say, when I said I was
- 4:33Speaker 3: not offended by Machine Gun Kelly and, um.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Megan Fox.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Megan Fox. Megan Fox. Megan Markle, yeah. That, that they
- 4:42Speaker 3: were a priest and she was like a slut or whatever.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I don't know. I, This person said that I bash
- 4:48Speaker 3: the Catholic Church. I'm like, I'm not– I'm Catholic.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I'm not bashing.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I'm just saying like I don't take offense to idiots
- 4:55Speaker 3: dressing up as my religious thing. Yeah. Like it just
- 4:59Speaker 3: doesn't bother me. And then the same person was like,
- 5:02Speaker 3: I'm sure, you know, if it was Buddha or someone
- 5:05Speaker 3: making fun of Allah, that would bother you. I'm like–
- 5:09Speaker 3: no but like I appreciate if it bothers someone like
- 5:13Speaker 3: I'm just saying I just don't I think.
- 5:14Speaker 2: I'm desensitized to I just there's yeah I watch so
- 5:17Speaker 2: many housewives and I live in Los Angeles so I
- 5:19Speaker 2: see so many weird things every day that nothing like
- 5:21Speaker 2: nothing phases me anymore yeah and the machine gun cat
- 5:24Speaker 2: like I just the whole thing about them is like
- 5:25Speaker 2: they're so punk rock but are you that punk rock
- 5:27Speaker 2: where you you're like the next night they did Pam
- 5:29Speaker 2: Anderson and Tommy Lee and it's like yo.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I have like how like when does it stop I
- 5:34Speaker 3: just want to finish on the side of clown um
- 5:37Speaker 3: I don't think this would be a fun party to
- 5:39Speaker 3: go to. I don't think I care to go. It's
- 5:41Speaker 3: in New York, so I wouldn't go. And I just like,
- 5:44Speaker 3: and then I guess she finally took off that outfit
- 5:46Speaker 3: and then just like, just had like. the worm head
- 5:49Speaker 3: and like a cat suit or something.
- 5:52Speaker 2: I saw her spinning with quest love. Like she, he
- 5:55Speaker 2: was the DJ at this event and she was like, yeah, yeah.
- 5:58Speaker 2: So it's like, she got the photo ops she wanted
- 6:00Speaker 2: to get in the worm outfit. I mean, entertainment tonight
- 6:03Speaker 2: even actually had a microphone on the floor and she
- 6:06Speaker 2: was like writhing on the floor. And if you're writing
- 6:08Speaker 2: on the floor at any party, that's wild.
- 6:10Speaker 3: And I mean, the reason she has it is because it's,
- 6:13Speaker 3: you know, a big party for, for PR companies and stuff.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Like it's branded to the hilt. Which, by the way,
- 6:20Speaker 2: do you think the branding comes here? It's like, Heidi,
- 6:22Speaker 2: are you sure of the worm? We don't know if
- 6:23Speaker 2: we want our product affiliated with larva.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Here's Megan Fox first as like a girl getting communion, okay,
- 6:31Speaker 3: from him. That's actually accurate. Then they went as Tommy
- 6:33Speaker 3: and Pamela Lee, which. You know, she has a beautiful
- 6:37Speaker 3: nose job and beautiful teeth. And that's what Pamela Lee
- 6:41Speaker 3: had was the perfect smile.
- 6:43Speaker 2: And she just got a new beautiful boob job.
- 6:45Speaker 3: So it is kind of perfect. And he looks so
- 6:49Speaker 3: much cuter as Tommy Lee than he does in real life.
- 6:52Speaker 3: So good for him.
- 6:53Speaker 2: It's like the ghost of Christmas future for these guys.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. This is some juice. There's this girl that is,
- 7:04Speaker 3: you know... an OnlyFans model. Who the fuck isn't except
- 7:08Speaker 3: for me? And her name's Juanita. And she was dating.
- 7:14Speaker 3: She was seen with Tristan Thompson at one point. But
- 7:18Speaker 3: now she went home after a Halloween party with Tyga
- 7:22Speaker 3: in her... This is the grossest outfit. So she basically
- 7:25Speaker 3: has the tiniest, tiniest string bikini on, ass out with
- 7:31Speaker 3: the tights. Just gross. Like, just gross. Gross. And then
- 7:36Speaker 3: she did this mistake, which is an awful... Well, maybe that...
- 7:40Speaker 3: I think.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Is that supposed to be blood or is that some
- 7:44Speaker 2: kind of condition?
- 7:45Speaker 3: I just want to say, I saw this a lot
- 7:48Speaker 3: at Halloween and it was red lips, you know, but
- 7:51Speaker 3: then they drew some blood coming down the mouth or
- 7:54Speaker 3: like a smear.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Scary.
- 7:55Speaker 3: It doesn't look good.
- 7:56Speaker 2: No, it looks like you just got roughed around in
- 7:59Speaker 2: the back of a Corolla or something.
- 8:01Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't.
- 8:01Speaker 3: It's not a flattering look. And so.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I mean, Tristan is such a dirtbag that, like, I
- 8:07Speaker 2: just love that these women seem to just pop up.
- 8:10Speaker 2: These OnlyFans models, like, Tristan seems to love. I mean,
- 8:13Speaker 2: they all seem to love these OnlyFans models.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Anyway, she went as an essential worker. Let's remember that.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Thank you. This was, my sister's a nurse and she
- 8:23Speaker 2: was actually really appreciative of this.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Oh, that's so great.
- 8:25Speaker 2: This was great.
- 8:26Speaker 3: When your sister was, your sister is a nurse in
- 8:29Speaker 3: real life, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just have a
- 8:30Speaker 3: question for you because I thought about it, you know,
- 8:34Speaker 3: in memoriam of, you know, the years past during the COVID,
- 8:38Speaker 3: like first season COVID. And do you remember when all
- 8:43Speaker 3: the nurses and essential workers were doing like really intricate
- 8:47Speaker 3: TikTok dances, like 18 people and like 35 moves and like,
- 8:52Speaker 3: I was just, you know, I'm kind of like, I remember,
- 8:55Speaker 3: and I can say it now, but I didn't say
- 8:57Speaker 3: it back then.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I didn't say it first season. I can say it
- 8:59Speaker 2: the sixth season.
- 9:00Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, were things that dire that like
- 9:05Speaker 3: 18 of you could like get together and be like, bum, bum, bum, bum.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I'm flatlining in the other room. People are like, da, da, da, da, da.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Like I'm shocked at any job. Like they have these
- 9:16Speaker 2: at like law offices now. But yeah, like the nurse
- 9:19Speaker 2: thing was wild. Because you're like.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Did she ever do a TikTok dance with people?
- 9:23Speaker 2: She has. But she has my niece and nephew to also.
- 9:29Speaker 2: My niece and nephew encouraged it as well. So there
- 9:33Speaker 2: was an encouraging from the kids.
- 9:34Speaker 3: No, but did she do it at the hospital? Not
- 9:36Speaker 3: just her doing it at home with her kids. Did
- 9:38Speaker 3: it at the hospital in the greens with like multiple people. Yeah.
- 9:43Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. I think it's great.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Dance is beautiful.
- 9:46Speaker 3: I think that they had fun, but I just feel like,
- 9:49Speaker 3: I feel happy that now, three years later, I can say,
- 9:52Speaker 3: I thought, fuck, like, really? I don't have the time
- 9:56Speaker 3: to put that together, and I'm not, like, saving lives.
- 9:59Speaker 3: But weren't you also.
- 9:59Speaker 2: kind of impressive? Like, thank God they're this accurate. Like,
- 10:02Speaker 2: this is, like, much to see how they sew people up. Like,
- 10:04Speaker 2: they can actually remember these dance moves. I can't remember
- 10:07Speaker 2: any dance move of anything.
- 10:08Speaker 3: I just saw the funniest thing that my friend, Ian Edwards,
- 10:11Speaker 3: who's a hilarious comic, he just did something where he
- 10:15Speaker 3: talked about how, like, maybe essential workers shouldn't dress up
- 10:19Speaker 3: for Halloween because he has, and behind him in the TikTok,
- 10:22Speaker 3: he has like the... the death face like he's like
- 10:26Speaker 3: I don't know about like someone walking in like how
- 10:28Speaker 3: you feeling today and you're like in the ICU like
- 10:32Speaker 3: maybe that's maybe don't dress up like you he's like
- 10:35Speaker 3: you have the most expensive outfit your education allows you
- 10:39Speaker 3: to wear the scrubs a lot of people are doing
- 10:40Speaker 3: sexy nurse and wearing scrubs on Halloween you have the
- 10:44Speaker 3: outfit like you don't need to dress up on Halloween
- 10:47Speaker 3: yeah and like.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Also hospitals don't need to do casual Friday like I
- 10:50Speaker 2: want to see a doctor in their normal doctor outfit
- 10:52Speaker 2: no additions at all Yeah.
- 10:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Anyway, so she's a big, you know, popular girl and,
- 10:58Speaker 3: and they said, I guess she does collab. Is Tyga
- 11:03Speaker 3: on OnlyFans too? Yes, he is. Tyga is. So he
- 11:07Speaker 3: just has sex with girls?
- 11:08Speaker 2: Tyga has a whole cottage industry that is not even
- 11:10Speaker 2: involving rap, allegedly. Like that's what's so, you know, cause
- 11:14Speaker 2: he's also like, you know, how he, he has the
- 11:16Speaker 2: one song Rack City that I love, but then also
- 11:18Speaker 2: infamously known as like dating Kylie Jenner. Like that was how,
- 11:21Speaker 2: I felt he started, but then the IRS kept repossessing
- 11:24Speaker 2: his cars and repossessing his cars. But now he has
- 11:26Speaker 2: all these different streams of revenue. And one of those
- 11:28Speaker 2: is OnlyFans. But the thing with OnlyFans, you can make
- 11:31Speaker 2: like seven figures on OnlyFans. So this guy, I mean,
- 11:35Speaker 2: at least puts it out there. Seems like he's doing okay.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Better than people that actually have successful rap careers. So
- 11:42Speaker 2: no offense, Dykes.
- 11:43Speaker 3: And also, like, how great is it that like your
- 11:46Speaker 3: one night stands are also benefiting from you guys filming
- 11:49Speaker 3: sexy stuff together. I mean, that is, you know what
- 11:52Speaker 3: I mean?
- 11:52Speaker 2: That's the business acumen that it takes. These are the
- 11:55Speaker 2: Bethany Frankels.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Like come have sex with me and we'll do also
- 11:58Speaker 3: like a collab OnlyFans video.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Is that the pillow talk afterwards? You know, I could
- 12:02Speaker 2: see you into my OnlyFans stuff. Like I wonder when
- 12:05Speaker 2: that like offer is made.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Just like I, just give me a blow job. I
- 12:09Speaker 3: will tag you. And that's like, that's worth, that's worth
- 12:14Speaker 3: more than you giving me five grand.
- 12:16Speaker 2: That's gold. I mean, that's money in the bank.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Can you take that to Wells Fargo and get like
- 12:20Speaker 2: a loan? Like I'm, I'm eventually going to be on
- 12:22Speaker 2: Tyga's OnlyFans and get a loan based on that.
- 12:25Speaker 3: I feel like the new scene that has to be
- 12:27Speaker 3: done is remember that scene in Boogie Nights where he's
- 12:30Speaker 3: trying to get money. He and his wife are trying
- 12:32Speaker 3: to get money so he can leave porn and open
- 12:34Speaker 3: his stereo store.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Squad Fod sound.
- 12:36Speaker 3: And then he's like, just tell me what I need
- 12:38Speaker 3: to write on this. And, and the guy's like, no,
- 12:41Speaker 3: we can't lend money to a pornographer. Like now they're like, Okay, hi.
- 12:47Speaker 3: And then put how much you make. Now there's probably
- 12:49Speaker 3: a loan app in LA. That's like, you know how
- 12:51Speaker 3: there's that thing that's like, you can also write down
- 12:54Speaker 3: if you get any money from child support. And then
- 12:56Speaker 3: it's also like, and your OnlyFan money. Can you put
- 12:59Speaker 3: that down too so I can get you this home loan?
- 13:02Speaker 2: If OnlyFans would secure you at least a six-figure loan,
- 13:05Speaker 2: like right off the bat.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Anyway, good for this girl. I just made her life
- 13:09Speaker 3: talk about her. Also, okay, explain this. Tom Sandoval from
- 13:18Speaker 3: Vanderpump Rules went as Rachel.
- 13:23Speaker 2: No, her name's Rachel, but it's Raquel.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Okay. Went as Raquel being a fan of his.
- 13:33Speaker 4: Okay.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Well, so the third day of BravoCon, to take you
- 13:39Speaker 2: guys back, Raquel Levis from the show, who used to
- 13:42Speaker 2: date DJ James Kennedy and rumored made out with Schwartz
- 13:45Speaker 2: at Sheena's wedding, dressed in the TomTom sweatshirt and like,
- 13:49Speaker 2: you know, I think it was maybe for the panel
- 13:51Speaker 2: day and had the glasses and the exact outfit that
- 13:54Speaker 2: Tom has on here. And somebody posted this and said
- 13:57Speaker 2: that like she was thirsty. She was a fangirl, da, da, da.
- 14:01Speaker 2: And Katie Maloney, who, of course, has, you know, the
- 14:03Speaker 2: connection with Schwartz, wrote she's always been a fangirl from
- 14:06Speaker 2: the beginning. And now she's after like the Tom or something.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:11Speaker 2: And Raquel then wrote back, I am a fan of
- 14:13Speaker 2: the Toms and I do support all of their businesses,
- 14:16Speaker 2: Tom Tom. So she like leaned into it. Supposedly, we're
- 14:20Speaker 2: getting like the villain of Raquel this season for season 10.
- 14:24Speaker 2: And the people think this is actually set up. Like,
- 14:27Speaker 2: come on, you guys. This is not really. Because then
- 14:29Speaker 2: Sandoval dressed up as this for Halloween night and posted
- 14:32Speaker 2: it everywhere. So people are like, this.
- 14:34Speaker 3: Can't be real. You're doing this so that we talk
- 14:36Speaker 3: about it and then the season will premiere. But I
- 14:39Speaker 3: told you earlier, I'm like... I've talked to them and
- 14:42Speaker 3: there really is this divide in the cast. And it
- 14:45Speaker 3: really does stem from this, what was this amical, beautiful
- 14:50Speaker 3: 10 year friendship. We're going to love each other forever. Divorce.
- 14:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 14:55Speaker 3: And it's not so lovely anymore. And it, it, and
- 14:59Speaker 3: you know, uh, people like Katie and on Katie's side
- 15:03Speaker 3: are hurt that other people on the cast have, they
- 15:06Speaker 3: believe encouraged this relationship, uh, Between Raquel and Schwartz. But anyway,
- 15:14Speaker 3: it all does add up to a juicy season, but
- 15:17Speaker 3: it really is real.
- 15:18Speaker 2: I will say that I know the person that gave
- 15:20Speaker 2: Sandoval this idea for this outfit for this night. It
- 15:23Speaker 2: is completely real, this thing. It's actually a Juicy Scooper,
- 15:29Speaker 2: one of your listeners. I don't want to give out
- 15:31Speaker 2: her name, but she actually got me onto Juicy. Like,
- 15:34Speaker 2: listening to you. Yeah. And she was hanging out with
- 15:37Speaker 2: them and said it would be really funny. And so
- 15:39Speaker 2: they dressed up as that. And it actually took off.
- 15:41Speaker 2: But this is 100% real, you guys. This wasn't like,
- 15:44Speaker 2: I'll do this and you do this. But that's what's
- 15:46Speaker 2: so scary and lovely about Vanderpump Rules is that they're
- 15:49Speaker 2: in their 30s and they're still acting. Like, you would
- 15:51Speaker 2: think this is over at high school. And it does
- 15:53Speaker 2: get me excited for season 10. But that's just because
- 15:56Speaker 2: this is all real. Like, Katie's really upset. Raquel kind
- 16:00Speaker 2: of seems like she's loving this. And Raquel dates many
- 16:02Speaker 2: people this season.
- 16:03Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:04Speaker 2: The Schwartz thing I'm hearing is just like a drunken
- 16:06Speaker 2: makeout that was kind of like, oh, you should, you
- 16:08Speaker 2: should do this, you should do this. But I hear
- 16:10Speaker 2: she dates multiple people this season.
- 16:12Speaker 3: Good for her.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I'm excited to have her voice.
- 16:16Speaker 3: And then I love DJ James Kennedy. I saw him
- 16:19Speaker 3: at BravoCon, too. And, yeah, I had a good time
- 16:23Speaker 3: hanging out with Katie. And Katie's got some romance currently
- 16:26Speaker 3: happening in her life.
- 16:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:27Speaker 3: New, like... not just the one person. So I think
- 16:31Speaker 3: I'm excited.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Katie is the best she's ever like, Katie looks hot.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Like Katie looks awesome. I like talked to her briefly
- 16:37Speaker 2: at Bravo con and she made fun of my mustache.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:39Speaker 2: So shout out Katie. But like, I've been through a
- 16:42Speaker 2: divorce too. Like it sucks. And imagine like, I am
- 16:45Speaker 2: so thankful that when I went through my divorce, I
- 16:47Speaker 2: didn't have any kind of TV opportunities.
- 16:49Speaker 4: Right.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Like I just had my parents yelling at me. Could
- 16:51Speaker 2: you imagine if you had then social media on top
- 16:54Speaker 2: of that?
- 16:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I wouldn't, I wouldn't be able to exist.
- 16:57Speaker 3: I think people were positive about them breaking up, but
- 17:00Speaker 3: I love that this is like.
- 17:01Speaker 2: It's so hard. People really genuinely like them breaking up.
- 17:04Speaker 2: That's so hard to hear, though. Imagine being Katie or
- 17:07Speaker 2: Schwartz and hearing.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Well, I think that they did because as people watching it,
- 17:10Speaker 3: it was shocking because they were that couple that had
- 17:13Speaker 3: been together so long, and you just thought they were
- 17:16Speaker 3: just going to be that couple that.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Ate candy in bed forever watching Pauly Shore movies.
- 17:20Speaker 3: But also kind of miserable, and then to have her
- 17:24Speaker 3: really realize... you know what, I do want more for myself.
- 17:28Speaker 2: The Kelly Taylor, I choose me from Beverly Hills 90210.
- 17:32Speaker 2: She chose herself just like Giselle with Tom Brady. These
- 17:36Speaker 2: women are actually doing what's best for them and they
- 17:39Speaker 2: suffer the brunt of the emotional hurt, I think. And Schwartz, unfortunately,
- 17:43Speaker 2: has such charm. that sometimes guys will always be more
- 17:46Speaker 2: sympathized with just in life in general. But Katie actually
- 17:49Speaker 2: put her heart into it and actually had to make
- 17:51Speaker 2: probably the toughest decision for somebody to pull out of
- 17:54Speaker 2: a relationship that he probably would have stayed in for
- 17:57Speaker 2: the rest of his life, but it wouldn't have hit
- 18:00Speaker 2: the buttons that she needed to hit in terms of love.
- 18:02Speaker 3: No, and I'm so glad that it all happened before
- 18:05Speaker 3: they had kids and they're still young and it also
- 18:08Speaker 3: makes for a great show. I mean, what reality show
- 18:11Speaker 3: has a couple that's been married for 10 years... That
- 18:13Speaker 3: both stay on the show and get divorced, and we
- 18:15Speaker 3: can kind of watch what happens in their friend group. Like,
- 18:19Speaker 3: that to me is frickin' juicy, and I don't care if...
- 18:21Speaker 3: And none of them pick up a shift at Sir
- 18:24Speaker 3: or Pump. I don't... Wait, are you.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Telling me they do not work at that bar?
- 18:28Speaker 3: But I'm also saying, I don't even think we need
- 18:30Speaker 3: to pretend that they do anymore. Yeah, exactly.
- 18:33Speaker 2: I would rather follow their lives as trying to hustle,
- 18:36Speaker 2: trying to get houses, trying to get brand deals. I
- 18:38Speaker 2: would so much rather see that because that reality is
- 18:42Speaker 2: nobody's doing that. And it's their actual reality. I know.
- 18:45Speaker 3: We can still just keep that. We don't have to
- 18:47Speaker 3: change the name. No. We don't need to see them
- 18:51Speaker 3: going in the back and acting like. Or putting any
- 18:55Speaker 3: fake storyline.
- 18:56Speaker 2: And then Lisa shows up and you have to slow
- 18:58Speaker 2: down the show to explain what happened to Lisa. Like, Lisa,
- 19:01Speaker 2: what happened was... Honestly, I love Lisa.
- 19:03Speaker 3: I think she's great. I don't think we need to see.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Her on the show.
- 19:05Speaker 5: Not at all.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Like, you don't... You slow down the show when you
- 19:08Speaker 2: have her on. Put her back on Beverly Hills. Put
- 19:10Speaker 2: her back on.
- 19:11Speaker 3: I like.
- 19:11Speaker 2: I love Lisa Vanderpump. I just think the show is
- 19:14Speaker 2: not about her anymore.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Right, because she comes and then everyone has to– you're right.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Everyone has to explain what's going on. Yeah. They come
- 19:20Speaker 3: to her house and she's like, do you want a
- 19:21Speaker 3: cup of tea? Now explain to me once more. Exactly. Roquel. What?
- 19:31Speaker 2: You were married to Katie and then– Yeah.
- 19:34Speaker 3: I mean, come on. I mean– I don't understand why
- 19:38Speaker 3: I thought Katie and Tom would last forever and I
- 19:40Speaker 3: married them.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Ken stays in the limo now. Like Ken doesn't even
- 19:43Speaker 2: get out of the Rolls Royce when they shoot scenes.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Like she's always popping out of the Rolls Royce and
- 19:48Speaker 2: going like, Ken's in the car.
- 19:50Speaker 3: Listen, I think Ken is the greatest trooper. The car
- 19:57Speaker 3: is beautiful. Where did you end up going for it?
- 20:00Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
- 20:02Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
- 20:05Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
- 20:07Speaker 3: It's Dune ADL.
- 20:09Speaker 2: Where?
- 20:11Speaker 3: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
- 20:16Speaker 3: I got it on Dundale Cars.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Lift?
- 20:18Speaker 3: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
- 20:22Speaker 2: No.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Dundale Cars.
- 20:24Speaker 5: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
- 20:26Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 20:30Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 20:33Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
- 20:37Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
- 20:43Speaker 5: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
- 20:45Speaker 5: filed against me.
- 20:46Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
- 20:48Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
- 20:51Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
- 20:54Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
- 20:56Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
- 20:58Speaker 2: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
- 21:00Speaker 2: started crying.
- 21:01Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
- 21:04Speaker 4: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
- 21:07Speaker 4: go through. It's about what happens next.
- 21:10Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
- 21:12Speaker 3: every day was.
- 21:13Speaker 2: You're worth the work.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
- 21:16Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
- 21:18Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 21:21Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 21:32Speaker 3: Because when I went to this thing with Lala to
- 21:35Speaker 3: celebrate this big event for Robert Shapiro's son. And they
- 21:42Speaker 3: were there and they were at the table. And I'm like,
- 21:44Speaker 3: he's still so sweet and out and dapper. And then...
- 21:49Speaker 3: She called me later because I said we were waiting
- 21:51Speaker 3: for Flowrider. It never came. And then she called me
- 21:54Speaker 3: that night.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Wait, did you say waiting for Flowrider?
- 21:56Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. And he never came. I've been to like
- 21:58Speaker 3: five events for Flowrider.
- 21:59Speaker 2: He never comes.
- 22:00Speaker 3: And so then all of a sudden my phone rings.
- 22:02Speaker 3: I'm home, back in Woodland Hills. And she calls me.
- 22:04Speaker 3: She's like, did he ever show up? And I'm like,
- 22:07Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And she's like, Flowrider. I'm like, no.
- 22:11Speaker 2: I go, where are you?
- 22:12Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, we went to the polo lounge.
- 22:15Speaker 3: I'm like, you then took Kent. To a second location. Like,
- 22:20Speaker 3: I can barely get my husband, who's 20 years younger
- 22:22Speaker 3: than Ken, to, like, hang out at Adrian Malouf's party
- 22:24Speaker 3: for more than, like.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Two hours. He had to put on a tux for
- 22:27Speaker 2: a pretty woman thing.
- 22:28Speaker 3: It was a casual suit with no tux. Anyway, everyone
- 22:30Speaker 3: was doing this joke, which was really fun. It's the
- 22:33Speaker 3: spirit bag that you would get of a thing, and
- 22:35Speaker 3: they did the fangirl and include sweatshirt and social media drama.
- 22:40Speaker 3: And that was really funny. Okay, so, wait. Okay, here
- 22:45Speaker 3: we go. Here I am. I'm pretty woman here with
- 22:49Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis and his boyfriend, Chef Stu. And a lot
- 22:54Speaker 3: of people were wondering if Jeff Lewis was pulling a Luann.
- 22:58Speaker 2: I know.
- 22:59Speaker 3: He was in fatigues. And when he walked in, I
- 23:02Speaker 3: was like, oh, he put like dirt on his face.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Like you're crawling on the ground. You're a combat Marine
- 23:08Speaker 3: or whatever. And so- I just want you guys to know,
- 23:13Speaker 3: he was not... See, this is how we're so ready
- 23:16Speaker 3: to get enraged.
- 23:17Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Do you really think Jeff Lewis would purposely do blackface
- 23:21Speaker 2: at a Halloween event that was going to be photographed?
- 23:24Speaker 3: No, but I will say the dirt makeup made him
- 23:28Speaker 3: look cuter. I think he's super cute anyway, but it
- 23:31Speaker 3: gave him a nice tonal and some shading.
- 23:35Speaker 2: You just turned him into tan mom. You know he's
- 23:37Speaker 2: going to be tanning every day.
- 23:38Speaker 3: I like him. I like him tanned. And of course,
- 23:42Speaker 3: chefs do look great. So I was pretty woman from
- 23:45Speaker 3: when they go on the date.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Oh, I know. On the fancy date. Did your husband
- 23:48Speaker 2: do the, with the pearl, the necklace box?
- 23:50Speaker 3: We didn't do that because my necklace came in a
- 23:52Speaker 3: plastic bag from Etsy. So I didn't have like a
- 23:55Speaker 3: beautiful thing to do that, but I did have it
- 23:58Speaker 3: on and we did a couple of videos and we
- 24:00Speaker 3: went to Adrian Maloof's and it was fun. But I
- 24:03Speaker 3: will say like, I mean, there was a time when
- 24:05Speaker 3: I went to even more parties and it is fun
- 24:08Speaker 3: and you feel like you accomplished something. Like I did
- 24:10Speaker 3: a costume I've wanted to do for a long time
- 24:13Speaker 3: and I never wear my hair up and I look
- 24:16Speaker 3: fucking amazing. I wasn't wearing, you know, some average outfit
- 24:20Speaker 3: that anyone could be like sexy pirate. I was wearing
- 24:23Speaker 3: something that was like kind of iconic, which is what
- 24:24Speaker 3: I wanted to do. And I had fun, but I'm like,
- 24:27Speaker 3: I'm glad it was just one party. Yeah. I'm glad
- 24:30Speaker 3: I didn't go to like 10 parties and three different
- 24:32Speaker 3: outfits and You.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Could have done the pre-Julia Roberts when she's the prostitute
- 24:37Speaker 2: with the strappy thing. Then the next party could have
- 24:40Speaker 2: been like the in-between Julia Roberts. And then this could
- 24:42Speaker 2: have been the last one if you did three back-to-back.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Right. Well, so now you gave someone else an idea.
- 24:46Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people will do this next year.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, yeah.
- 24:49Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people will steal the idea.
- 24:51Speaker 3: And I thought people might not know and be like,
- 24:54Speaker 3: are you a princess? Are you a queen? But like
- 24:56Speaker 3: 90% of the people knew it was me. Oh, and
- 25:00Speaker 3: then I saw Dorit at the party. And I came
- 25:04Speaker 3: out after.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Was PK there?
- 25:05Speaker 3: And PK wasn't there. But who I recognized with was Phoenix.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Phoenix. That girl is a star.
- 25:12Speaker 3: I know. She's so cute. So I see her and
- 25:14Speaker 3: I'm like. And then I see Jagger. And I see
- 25:16Speaker 3: this girl looking down with like a princess wig on.
- 25:22Speaker 3: And I just assume she's the nanny, right? So they're
- 25:25Speaker 3: sitting on the curb and she's like opening up candy
- 25:28Speaker 3: for the kids. And I go. are you Phoenix? Is
- 25:31Speaker 3: that Jagger? And the little girl goes, yes. And I go,
- 25:35Speaker 3: I know your mommy. And she looks up, she's like, hi, Heather.
- 25:37Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, it's you, Dorit. I go, you
- 25:41Speaker 3: look so young sitting there. I just figured you're like
- 25:43Speaker 3: a nanny. And of course, Dorit is a really involved mom.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Of course, yeah.
- 25:49Speaker 3: So I'm like, so of course she's not going to
- 25:51Speaker 3: miss out on trick-or-treating with her kids. And the neighborhood
- 25:54Speaker 3: that we were at, where Adrian has this big, fabulous home,
- 25:58Speaker 3: But it's really good for trick-or-treating because even though they're
- 26:00Speaker 3: these big, fabulous homes, they're not too far apart. They're
- 26:03Speaker 3: not like hidden hills. So it's like you can go
- 26:06Speaker 3: and hit a bunch.
- 26:06Speaker 2: And they're all big candy bars, I'm sure, because it's
- 26:08Speaker 2: a nice neighborhood.
- 26:09Speaker 3: And everyone's super decorated. So anyway, so she was really sweet.
- 26:13Speaker 2: It would be great if Phoenix was like, get me
- 26:15Speaker 2: another drink and make it fast. Come on. Let's go. Heather, go.
- 26:19Speaker 2: I love her.
- 26:19Speaker 3: I know. When she was like, when that one time
- 26:22Speaker 3: when PK was like, making, like, you shouldn't be wearing
- 26:26Speaker 3: those roller skates or whatever you're going to call them.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Why, Daddy?
- 26:28Speaker 5: Why?
- 26:28Speaker 3: And then she's like, Daddy, you're only making her less confident.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Stop it. Mommy, don't listen to Daddy. You can roller
- 26:37Speaker 3: skate if you want to. And I was like, I
- 26:38Speaker 3: told her, I'm like, I love that.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I love when she called, like, Little Jagaloo, Mama Bear, Jagaloo, Phoenix, Jagaloo.
- 26:45Speaker 3: So cute. Okay, so then this also happened where this,
- 26:50Speaker 3: I think this is a whole fake.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Now you think this is a setup.
- 26:53Speaker 3: This is a total setup because she went, okay, so
- 26:55Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian had this amazing avatar outfit, you know, like
- 27:00Speaker 3: up there with the movie level, which these people have
- 27:01Speaker 3: all the access to have someone make it perfectly or
- 27:04Speaker 3: get any product that they need because this is Hollywood
- 27:07Speaker 3: and they're the Queens of Hollywood. So she looked great.
- 27:10Speaker 3: She goes to Tracy Ellis Ross's dinner birthday party. Thanks
- 27:14Speaker 3: for inviting me.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Whatever.
- 27:15Speaker 3: We only did a series together, but fuck off. Anyway, so,
- 27:20Speaker 3: and then she's like, Makes a joke about how she
- 27:23Speaker 3: showed up and no one was dressed up. It was
- 27:24Speaker 3: just a normal dinner party on the Saturday before Halloween.
- 27:28Speaker 3: But then she went to the P. Diddy party.
- 27:30Speaker 2: Yeah, because we have those looks of her looking lovingly
- 27:32Speaker 2: at P.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Diddy. She was party hopping. And I don't think she
- 27:36Speaker 3: bothered to confirm... Whether it was a costume party or not. Yeah.
- 27:40Speaker 3: And then it made her look more real.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Yes.
- 27:42Speaker 3: That's the whole thing. Oh, my God.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Look how relatable. Relatable queen.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Relatable, yeah. But, I mean, her plan was not to
- 27:48Speaker 3: stay the whole night anyway.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Yes.
- 27:50Speaker 3: She was going to party hop no matter what. And
- 27:52Speaker 3: this just made it easier, actually, for her to probably
- 27:55Speaker 3: bolt after, you know.
- 27:56Speaker 2: First appetizers. Yeah, it wasn't like, I'm going to go
- 27:59Speaker 2: 16 hours of makeup for Tracee Ellis's Ross's 50th birthday. Yeah.
- 28:01Speaker 2: She was going to three other things with other celebrities.
- 28:04Speaker 3: Yes.
- 28:04Speaker 2: So she knew... And also this got pushed out as
- 28:06Speaker 2: the major story. So she got, it was like twofold.
- 28:09Speaker 2: She got to look cool at whatever party she went
- 28:11Speaker 2: to later. And she got this story that makes people
- 28:14Speaker 2: love her.
- 28:14Speaker 3: All right. And then she's like, to the sweetest soul
- 28:16Speaker 3: I know. Come on. You barely know each other. Okay. Yeah. P. Diddy,
- 28:22Speaker 3: like he was there.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Way too intense.
- 28:24Speaker 4: Okay.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Let's move on from Halloween. So I thought this was interesting.
- 28:27Speaker 3: This comes from Perez Hilton. But Kanye West cannot sell
- 28:31Speaker 3: his White Lives Matter shirts online. Because it's trademarked by, ironically,
- 28:37Speaker 3: two black men. And it's kind of a great story
- 28:40Speaker 3: in that these people set out to trademark it, never
- 28:46Speaker 3: to sell it, but just to make sure that it
- 28:49Speaker 3: couldn't be sold. And so then he did make the shirts.
- 28:53Speaker 3: And then when they said, hey, you can't sell these
- 28:55Speaker 3: shirts because we've trademarked it, that's when he went to
- 28:57Speaker 3: Skid Row and gave them out. Because he can't sell them.
- 29:01Speaker 2: And Gap actually... is supposedly donating all of his clothes
- 29:04Speaker 2: now to other, like, you know, the Goodwill won't even
- 29:07Speaker 2: take his clothes. They had, like, an edict down from Goodwill. But, like,
- 29:11Speaker 2: the L.A. homeless are, like, decked right now out in, like,
- 29:14Speaker 2: Yeezy wear. Like, I mean, but that's kind of scary
- 29:17Speaker 2: because don't you think then, like, homeless people are going
- 29:19Speaker 2: to be picked on wearing these shirts to get their
- 29:21Speaker 2: shirt because it's, like, a collectible?
- 29:22Speaker 3: No, no, they're going to, no, it'll be fine. And
- 29:24Speaker 3: then it'll just be tossed. But, I mean, his whole
- 29:27Speaker 3: look is... is, you know, homeless chic or whatever. So
- 29:31Speaker 3: it all works out.
- 29:32Speaker 2: It's scary as hell with the big rain boots and
- 29:34Speaker 2: he always looks like a zombie now. It's like, it's not,
- 29:36Speaker 2: I just can't believe this is fashion.
- 29:38Speaker 3: I think, did I have a picture of him? at the,
- 29:41Speaker 3: maybe I didn't bring it on. Okay. Well, I saw
- 29:43Speaker 3: him at the soccer game and it was just like,
- 29:47Speaker 3: and they show her at the soccer game and I'm like,
- 29:49Speaker 3: she looks over and at the kid's soccer game and
- 29:52Speaker 3: Kanye's there and his rain boots and his like His
- 29:55Speaker 3: sweatshirt that looks like he's a professional painter and they
- 29:58Speaker 3: just picked him up in front of Home Depot. And
- 30:02Speaker 3: I go, she just has got to look over and
- 30:04Speaker 3: be like, this is not the guy I married at
- 30:09Speaker 3: this Venetian... palace and like.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Relocations, Italy, flower wall, the whole thing. And this is
- 30:16Speaker 2: where you like, I always say like Kardashians are so
- 30:18Speaker 2: everybody's like, they're so aspirational. Really? Like no matter how
- 30:21Speaker 2: aspirational you think Kim is, she has to wake up
- 30:23Speaker 2: every day, not knowing what Kanye has done overnight. Like
- 30:26Speaker 2: this would be the remainder of their lives.
- 30:28Speaker 3: It's, it's the worst. Um, okay. Megan Markle. Um, you know,
- 30:34Speaker 3: every day, every time she has an episode out, page
- 30:37Speaker 3: six writes about it. And, and then Megan Kelly rips
- 30:40Speaker 3: on it. Okay. I don't know if you noticed that pattern.
- 30:43Speaker 3: But anyway, so I noticed this article yesterday and I
- 30:46Speaker 3: read it and it was from Daily Mail and Daily
- 30:48Speaker 3: Mail is not a fan of hers. And so they
- 30:51Speaker 3: love to write the things in it. Like Meghan Markle
- 30:54Speaker 3: details her whirlwind morning routine in the Montecito home and
- 30:56Speaker 3: they mentioned it's worth whatever, 18 million or it's 18,000
- 31:00Speaker 3: square feet or both or whatever. And what it's like
- 31:03Speaker 3: for her to get up in the morning and And,
- 31:05Speaker 3: you know, it's just a whirlwind because she has to
- 31:07Speaker 3: prepare Archie's lunch.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Sure.
- 31:09Speaker 3: And then she has to give Lily a little bit,
- 31:13Speaker 3: a little bit of food. And then Harry helps bring
- 31:15Speaker 3: down the kids. He helps bring down Archie. I'm like,
- 31:19Speaker 3: bring down. Put him on your hip and walk him
- 31:20Speaker 3: down the steps. And so I was kind of like, okay, girl.
- 31:24Speaker 3: But then when I saw the article written about Megyn Kelly, like, with, like, visceral, like,
- 31:29Speaker 3: hatred for Megyn, I was like, okay. Yeah. Maybe Megyn
- 31:33Speaker 3: Kelly's jealous because she's the bigger Megyn. I don't know
- 31:36Speaker 3: what is the deal. Megyn Kelly's an intelligent woman. I
- 31:39Speaker 3: think she is out. This is what I think. I
- 31:44Speaker 3: did one video where I kind of made fun of
- 31:48Speaker 3: the fact that someone wrote about her speech and took
- 31:53Speaker 3: a quote that was so mundane. And I was more
- 31:57Speaker 3: making fun of the person that... The speech was lame.
- 32:00Speaker 3: The speech was It was like those generic speeches where
- 32:04Speaker 3: she got up, Meghan Markle, and she was like, we
- 32:08Speaker 3: need to use our voices to see that there's so
- 32:12Speaker 3: much potential in the world. It was like that kind
- 32:15Speaker 3: of stuff. And then the way the article was written
- 32:18Speaker 3: that I made fun of the article because I'm like, yeah,
- 32:21Speaker 3: we know that. Oh, this is what Meghan Markle said.
- 32:24Speaker 3: Children are our future. And they were like, Meghan Markle
- 32:27Speaker 3: says children are our future. And I was just like, okay,
- 32:30Speaker 3: come on.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Let them lead the way.
- 32:31Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was more like, you're the idiots that
- 32:35Speaker 3: are writing on this stuff. Like, you don't have to
- 32:37Speaker 3: listen to her podcast. You don't have to watch her
- 32:38Speaker 3: Netflix show. You don't have to buy his book. But, like,
- 32:41Speaker 3: to just– now I think– and if I saw Megyn Kelly,
- 32:45Speaker 3: I'd be like, listen– it's now becoming kind of gross. Like, just...
- 32:51Speaker 3: We get it.
- 32:51Speaker 2: It's a cottage industry of hate, though. Yeah, right. It's
- 32:55Speaker 2: like the OnlyFans thing. Like, now this... People are making
- 32:57Speaker 2: money off the hate of this person, and then we
- 32:59Speaker 2: can make money off the hate of Meghan Kelly. And
- 33:01Speaker 2: then it just becomes... That is the commerce cycle, I feel,
- 33:03Speaker 2: with all of this stuff.
- 33:04Speaker 3: But I just want to say, in the defense of
- 33:06Speaker 3: Meghan Markle, okay? This is her podcast, and this is
- 33:11Speaker 3: her life, and her reality is that her morning is busy...
- 33:17Speaker 3: Since before she had a kid, she only knows what
- 33:20Speaker 3: her life is like in her Montecito home. She did
- 33:24Speaker 3: not do a wife swap with a mom who has
- 33:27Speaker 3: four kids in a two-bedroom house in the middle of Oklahoma.
- 33:30Speaker 3: And she's not relating to that because that's not her reality.
- 33:33Speaker 3: Her reality is before I had kids, my mornings were
- 33:36Speaker 3: not as busy. Now that I have kids, I have
- 33:38Speaker 3: to do all this stuff, whether it's nannies and Harry's
- 33:41Speaker 3: help or not. That's just her life. And that's what
- 33:44Speaker 3: her podcast is. It's talking about her life. So if
- 33:46Speaker 3: you don't want to hear about her rich life, like,
- 33:48Speaker 3: that's fine. But, like, Megyn Kelly, like, hatred is just–
- 33:54Speaker 3: and I realize now, you know, Bethany Frankel was going
- 33:57Speaker 3: off on her hatred for the Kardashians and Megyn Kelly.
- 34:00Speaker 3: And then once she was– once I kind of called
- 34:03Speaker 3: her out on her hypocrisy, now all it is, all now,
- 34:07Speaker 3: it's only positive reviews. It's cooking. It's happiness.
- 34:11Speaker 2: You've changed the course of the future.
- 34:13Speaker 3: She literally brought out a product that she liked of Skims.
- 34:16Speaker 3: She's like, you know what? These socks are fucking amazing.
- 34:18Speaker 3: I love these Skims socks. She's only saying positive shit
- 34:22Speaker 3: now because she realized it was just like a switch.
- 34:25Speaker 3: She got so much press from being hateful. And then
- 34:28Speaker 3: when people are like, ew, now it's like... And I
- 34:31Speaker 3: just wish the people that like to consume this stuff
- 34:34Speaker 3: as I do would be as eyes open to like.
- 34:38Speaker 3: And again, you don't have to listen to– I don't
- 34:42Speaker 3: listen to Megan's show. But if people that listen to
- 34:44Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop do and they like it and they like
- 34:47Speaker 3: that she has a calming voice and that she writes
- 34:49Speaker 3: out everything she's going to say and it feels like
- 34:51Speaker 3: an audio book and you enjoy that and you like
- 34:53Speaker 3: to imagine her chasing little gingers on her seven-acre home
- 35:00Speaker 3: before Harry comes home, then just do it. Just do it.
- 35:05Speaker 3: I mean, let people be.
- 35:06Speaker 2: But also, and real quick, because this is from the
- 35:08Speaker 2: Daily Mail, which is my morning, evening, and afternoon news.
- 35:11Speaker 2: Daily Mail always screws me, though, because you'll be reading
- 35:14Speaker 2: it and think you're really getting news, and all of
- 35:15Speaker 2: a sudden you'll catch three misspellings in an article, and
- 35:18Speaker 2: you're like, I'm reading the Daily Mail. You're just like, oh, yeah,
- 35:23Speaker 2: that serves me right. They don't fact check.
- 35:26Speaker 3: But, I mean, I had a little bitterness in just like,
- 35:30Speaker 3: because I, you know... have done podcasting so long. And
- 35:33Speaker 3: I'm like, of course, another person gets in and of
- 35:35Speaker 3: course another, but now I'm just like, whatever, it's fine.
- 35:38Speaker 3: And if she creates goop and you spend $ 2, 000 to
- 35:42Speaker 3: go to a Megan Markle archetype weekend, And you choose
- 35:47Speaker 3: to do that with your money. It's on you. It's
- 35:50Speaker 3: on you. Go do it. Yeah. Like, go do it. People.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Follow your bliss.
- 35:54Speaker 3: That's right.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Like, follow your bliss.
- 35:56Speaker 3: I don't... Yeah, people ripped on people going to BravoCon.
- 35:59Speaker 3: And I'm like, what about the amount of money that
- 36:01Speaker 3: men have spent going to, like, baseball games in a lifetime? Like,
- 36:04Speaker 3: who cares? Like, if it makes you happy... Just fucking go.
- 36:07Speaker 2: I'm deeply in debt from BravoCon, by the way. But
- 36:10Speaker 2: it made me actually happy. And people were walking around happy.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Somebody called it Fyre Fest because of One Day on Friday.
- 36:15Speaker 2: And I'm still like, everybody I saw was flipping out
- 36:18Speaker 2: of their minds happy. Like, they're having a good time.
- 36:21Speaker 3: Right. They loved it. So, you know. But, okay, so
- 36:26Speaker 3: here we go. Let's see what else. Okay, Randall Emmett. Now,
- 36:31Speaker 3: he has an assistant who's suing him. And Randall... All
- 36:34Speaker 3: this information of what is in this assistant's lawsuit, if
- 36:38Speaker 3: you had read the original LA Times article, he was
- 36:42Speaker 3: interviewed for that article. And now he is planning on
- 36:46Speaker 3: suing him. What he's suing Randall Emmett for when he
- 36:48Speaker 3: was the assistant is he's a black man, and that's
- 36:52Speaker 3: important because he said that there was racial discrimination, that
- 36:55Speaker 3: he used words that were very offensive to him, referring
- 36:58Speaker 3: to Cardi B as ratchet and using the N-word when
- 37:02Speaker 3: referring to, you know. Yeah. And that's all hearsay on
- 37:06Speaker 3: this guy's part, whatever. But he also said that he
- 37:12Speaker 3: was instructed to go and he checked out of a
- 37:16Speaker 3: hotel room and he was instructed to go back to
- 37:17Speaker 3: that hotel room and collect a brick of cocaine from
- 37:21Speaker 3: the– safe. And then he was driving in Puerto Rico
- 37:25Speaker 3: with it. And he's like, oh my God, I mean,
- 37:27Speaker 3: what if I get pulled over? Like I'm going to
- 37:29Speaker 3: be thrown in Puerto Rican jail for the rest of
- 37:30Speaker 3: my life. And who knows what kind of discrimination might
- 37:33Speaker 3: happen because I am a more vulnerable person being a
- 37:36Speaker 3: black man driving a car with drugs and also like
- 37:39Speaker 3: prostitutes and this and that. And also he was Muslim
- 37:42Speaker 3: and he said that they may, he referenced making fun. Now,
- 37:46Speaker 3: of course, Randall's people have said, we deny this. We're
- 37:49Speaker 3: going to fight this. Do we know how much he's
- 37:54Speaker 3: suing for?
- 37:55Speaker 2: I don't know how much he's suing for, but we're
- 37:57Speaker 2: in this wave of it. Kind of like Erika Jayne
- 37:59Speaker 2: in a sense, except that Tom was behind that. But
- 38:02Speaker 2: there's going to be a wave of lawsuits that this
- 38:03Speaker 2: guy is going to be dealing with now. I think
- 38:05Speaker 2: this is the first of many. But even this guy
- 38:07Speaker 2: has voice recordings of Randall of like, pick up your phone.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Pick up your phone, man. You're my only friend. Those
- 38:13Speaker 2: were actually in the original Amy Kaufman article in the
- 38:15Speaker 2: LA Times. So there is a lot of... I mean,
- 38:19Speaker 2: this lawsuit, I think... you know, has merit in a certain,
- 38:24Speaker 2: you know, these things actually did allegedly happen according to
- 38:28Speaker 2: this man. So it'll just be interesting because I think
- 38:30Speaker 2: this is one of many, many lawsuits that Randall will
- 38:32Speaker 2: be facing.
- 38:33Speaker 3: Well, first of all, for the LA Times to have
- 38:35Speaker 3: written this guy's story, there had to be a lot
- 38:38Speaker 3: of proof of it.
- 38:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 38:40Speaker 3: And then for an attorney to take it on, there
- 38:42Speaker 3: has to be a lot of proof of it. So,
- 38:44Speaker 3: you know.
- 38:45Speaker 2: I bet Sutton read the whole article too. I bet
- 38:47Speaker 2: Sutton did.
- 38:48Speaker 3: I'll say, I'll say.
- 38:49Speaker 5: I did.
- 38:50Speaker 3: I did. Ryan, I read the whole article and I
- 38:53Speaker 3: was flabbergasted.
- 38:54Speaker 2: Well, why would you read the article?
- 38:56Speaker 3: Because I have ran into Mr. Emmett at the Elton John.
- 39:01Speaker 3: At the Elton John. Yes, I did. And I was
- 39:06Speaker 3: there and I had a table that I spent a
- 39:10Speaker 3: pretty penny for. And I was happy to do it
- 39:12Speaker 3: because I like helping children that have AIDS.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Would you be willing to take Randall Emmett to the
- 39:17Speaker 2: next Elton John AIDS fundraiser, even with all of the
- 39:20Speaker 2: article that you just read?
- 39:22Speaker 3: You know, I stand with the victims of Randall Emmett
- 39:26Speaker 3: and the victims of Erika Jay. on a show together,
- 39:31Speaker 3: I can move past the fact that I don't like
- 39:33Speaker 3: Erica because I'd like to stay on the show and
- 39:36Speaker 3: she brings some flavor to it.
- 39:38Speaker 2: You're a single lady, Sutton. Would you ever consider Randall
- 39:42Speaker 2: single right now? You know, the breakup with Lala. Is
- 39:44Speaker 2: that your type? I think the things with Sanjit didn't
- 39:47Speaker 2: work out. If Randall made some kind of proposal, would
- 39:51Speaker 2: you be into a date with Randall?
- 39:56Speaker 3: You know, I'm still waiting. I'm still waiting for Garcelle
- 40:01Speaker 3: to introduce me to her friend. Or was I supposed
- 40:04Speaker 3: to introduce Garcelle to my friend? Wait, who was it?
- 40:08Speaker 3: Someone had somebody hanging in the wind.
- 40:10Speaker 2: No, remember it was, it was, Dorit was like, I'm
- 40:12Speaker 2: going to introduce you to a friend.
- 40:13Speaker 3: Oh, Dorit has a friend. Find you very classy, Garcelle.
- 40:16Speaker 2: And Garcelle's like, I keep hearing about this friend and
- 40:18Speaker 2: I keep hearing about this friend and we never saw
- 40:20Speaker 2: the friend.
- 40:21Speaker 3: I never want to set up anybody.
- 40:24Speaker 2: No, that sounds awful because even if it works out
- 40:26Speaker 2: in the beginning, eventually down the line, it's potentially not
- 40:30Speaker 2: going to work out.
- 40:30Speaker 3: The potential of it working out where two people like
- 40:33Speaker 3: end up actually getting married is, And staying married until
- 40:39Speaker 3: you die. And then anything short of that, it's going
- 40:43Speaker 3: to be your fucking fault. Oh, yeah.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Then you have to choose.
- 40:46Speaker 3: Have you ever even recommended a pool man? Literally, people go, oh,
- 40:52Speaker 3: my God, I love your cabinets. I'm like, we will
- 40:54Speaker 3: never recommend anybody. It's so awful because so many people
- 40:58Speaker 3: depend on referrals. But it's like in L.A. or there
- 41:01Speaker 3: are certain friends that would just constantly bring up or
- 41:05Speaker 3: people that you're like, I know if this does not
- 41:06Speaker 3: work out perfectly, it's going to be like, well, you
- 41:08Speaker 3: know that one, Heather. She's the one who told me
- 41:10Speaker 3: about it. To date Randall Emmett. Now look at me.
- 41:13Speaker 2: I love that people kind of consider me like a
- 41:16Speaker 2: knob and an idiot because then it's like nobody asked
- 41:18Speaker 2: me an opinion. You're right. I don't want to refer anybody.
- 41:22Speaker 2: That would be horrible to refer even just like a
- 41:24Speaker 2: storage facility.
- 41:28Speaker 3: Okay. So good luck to him. This girl was on
- 41:32Speaker 3: Zoey 101 and she talked about Dan Schneider. Now, we know,
- 41:37Speaker 3: I've talked about Dan Schneider so much. He was the
- 41:41Speaker 3: king of Nickelodeon TV.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Love's feet.
- 41:44Speaker 3: Love's feet. Jeanette McCurdy with her famous book. She called
- 41:49Speaker 3: him the creator, never called him by name. I think
- 41:53Speaker 3: people thought when they told him, hi, here's $ 7 million,
- 41:57Speaker 3: can you leave now? That there must have been something really,
- 42:01Speaker 3: really bad. So far, though, in his defense... There hasn't
- 42:06Speaker 3: been someone that has come forward and said, like, he
- 42:09Speaker 3: touched me, molested me, sent me a picture of his
- 42:12Speaker 3: dick at night. There's none of that. But what there
- 42:15Speaker 3: is is that he was, like, mean and also, in
- 42:19Speaker 3: this particular case, the girl said that he would say,
- 42:23Speaker 3: I need to be there for the fittings. And he
- 42:25Speaker 3: would sit behind a curtain and then she would come
- 42:28Speaker 3: out in the outfit when anybody else, and you've been
- 42:30Speaker 3: in TV, too, as an actor, is you go to
- 42:32Speaker 3: the wardrobe. They give you a few things. They decide
- 42:36Speaker 3: what looks good. They take photos, Polaroids, and then you're
- 42:40Speaker 3: waiting in your trailer. And then the dress that they
- 42:43Speaker 3: chose is the one that I'm going to wear for
- 42:45Speaker 3: this scene. And, like, that's it. However, when I had
- 42:48Speaker 3: Maitland Ward on, and she was an actress in Boy
- 42:53Speaker 3: Meets World.
- 42:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:55Speaker 3: She wrote a book, and she's like, when I was
- 42:57Speaker 3: doing that show, which was a sitcom, and she was
- 42:59Speaker 3: of age, and... you know, she was like in her
- 43:02Speaker 3: early twenties or something. And she would, they, there were
- 43:05Speaker 3: several men that would say we, that were producers and
- 43:08Speaker 3: she would have to come out in the outfits and
- 43:10Speaker 3: try and it would be like lingerie, like she was
- 43:13Speaker 3: a sexy neighbor or whatever. And so I think that
- 43:16Speaker 3: was a really gross thing that a lot of producers
- 43:18Speaker 3: in the past would get away with. Yeah. Um, so
- 43:22Speaker 3: she reveals that in this podcast, uh, where she was
- 43:25Speaker 3: a guest on real pod. And, um, but I kind
- 43:29Speaker 3: of like, I don't know. You're right.
- 43:31Speaker 2: There's been no smoking gun. We just heard all of
- 43:33Speaker 2: these kind of like he was creepy. And it's like, well,
- 43:36Speaker 2: also welcome to Hollywood and men like creepy seems to
- 43:39Speaker 2: be a big thing. And especially when you're behind the scenes.
- 43:42Speaker 2: But like you said, like even with Maitland Ward, people
- 43:44Speaker 2: are like, yeah, I want to check it out. Come
- 43:45Speaker 2: on out. Like the Dan Schneider stuff, there has been
- 43:49Speaker 2: no smoking gun, even though we have all of these
- 43:51Speaker 2: stories like we alleged, you know, we can believe what
- 43:54Speaker 2: we want. But there has not been that one person
- 43:56Speaker 2: yet to completely shut it down. There is, I believe,
- 43:58Speaker 2: still negligence, in my own opinion, from, you know, was
- 44:02Speaker 2: it Nickelodeon or wherever? They knew he was creepy.
- 44:05Speaker 3: But I think that's why Nickelodeon was like, here's $ 7 million, goodbye.
- 44:09Speaker 3: We don't want to be associated with you. Thank God
- 44:13Speaker 3: there's nothing. I worked on a Dan Schneider show. Whoa!
- 44:18Speaker 2: When I was 12 years old.
- 44:20Speaker 3: I was like.
- 44:20Speaker 2: 33? He didn't even show up for the fitting at all.
- 44:28Speaker 2: He's like, no, I trust it.
- 44:29Speaker 3: And actually, the wardrobe girl... Ooh. The wardrobe girl was
- 44:34Speaker 3: a woman I knew. Nothing happened, but I'm like, wow. Oh,
- 44:40Speaker 3: my God.
- 44:40Speaker 2: I bet she has some stories.
- 44:41Speaker 3: I wonder. I mean, I'm like... Now I'm... My gosh,
- 44:44Speaker 3: she was like a family friend. Like, our families are friends.
- 44:47Speaker 3: And she went on to be it. And it was
- 44:49Speaker 3: so funny because when I got the part, she was like, Heather...
- 44:52Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, she was older
- 44:54Speaker 3: than I, but, like, our family's, like, all into the
- 44:55Speaker 3: same church and stuff. And I was like, oh, so
- 44:59Speaker 3: it was Drake and Josh, and I was a mom waiting,
- 45:03Speaker 3: a small part, but, like, a real part. And I
- 45:07Speaker 3: was a mom waiting in line to go on this, like, ride.
- 45:10Speaker 3: And I remember I'm sitting there with, standing there with
- 45:13Speaker 3: Josh and Drake in the scene, and they're, like, complaining
- 45:15Speaker 3: about how long the ride is, and I'm the mom,
- 45:16Speaker 3: and I have this kid that's a brat or whatever.
- 45:19Speaker 3: And so during the break... I say to Drake, I go,
- 45:22Speaker 3: my son is named Drake, too. He's two years old
- 45:25Speaker 3: or whatever. And then Drake Bell goes, well, that's actually
- 45:29Speaker 3: not my name. It's my middle name. My real name
- 45:32Speaker 3: is Brian. And Josh, who's been on the show for, like,
- 45:36Speaker 3: eight years with him, goes, what? And he goes, yeah,
- 45:41Speaker 3: that was my middle name that we just, like, made
- 45:42Speaker 3: my stage name. And he goes, I'm calling you Drake.
- 45:45Speaker 4: And I'm like, what?
- 45:47Speaker 2: That was the beginning of the end for Josh and Drake. Like,
- 45:50Speaker 2: they were never the same after that. They were never
- 45:52Speaker 2: the same.
- 45:52Speaker 3: They were like, probably Josh was like, look, I don't
- 45:54Speaker 3: even fucking know you. And then when Drake Bell, like,
- 45:57Speaker 3: did some questionable stuff when he went on the road
- 46:00Speaker 3: to high school, to high school places, learn from the best,
- 46:03Speaker 3: Dan Schneider. No, but like, and the Dan Schneider stuff,
- 46:06Speaker 3: the YouTube video of the foot fetish, the other thing
- 46:08Speaker 3: on Zoey 101 where they were drinking, like, what was it?
- 46:11Speaker 2: Coke.
- 46:11Speaker 3: They were using goop pops and then they were popping
- 46:13Speaker 3: it and it would just land perfectly on a girl's face.
- 46:17Speaker 3: And then she said, you know, we as kids didn't
- 46:20Speaker 3: know that that was what it looked like for a
- 46:22Speaker 3: girl to get cum on her face. But all these
- 46:24Speaker 3: adults knew.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the hidden meaning, yeah.
- 46:26Speaker 3: And I mean, I've said this before, but when my
- 46:29Speaker 3: kid would watch like iCarly and all this stuff, I
- 46:31Speaker 3: would be like, why are these people like, why are
- 46:32Speaker 3: these girls have like hair extensions and eyelashes at 12
- 46:36Speaker 3: and talking about their boyfriend cheating? Why is all these
- 46:38Speaker 3: themes like, more adult than they should be. And the
- 46:42Speaker 3: kids at home don't know. They just see kids. So
- 46:45Speaker 3: it was a really weird, sick thing. But it's still
- 46:50Speaker 3: not enough. They did the right thing. They just got
- 46:53Speaker 3: rid of him.
- 46:53Speaker 2: That's the right thing. Well, and we've never really had
- 46:54Speaker 2: a Dan Schneider interview, right? Like, he's never come forward
- 46:57Speaker 2: or wanted to.
- 46:57Speaker 3: Speak about this. No, actually, guys, Tuesday, Dan Schneider and
- 46:59Speaker 3: I are going to talk about when I was cast
- 47:03Speaker 3: and why he didn't come into my fitting.
- 47:05Speaker 2: What if that's the only topic you just keep hitting again? Okay,
- 47:08Speaker 2: back to Drake and Josh. Did I tell you the
- 47:10Speaker 2: story about the middle name? Yeah, Dan Schneider.
- 47:12Speaker 3: Why did you want to know which striped sweater I
- 47:14Speaker 3: was going to wear as the mom in the line?
- 47:17Speaker 2: Dan, let me reenact this. I'm going to take my
- 47:18Speaker 2: clothes off in the corner. I just want you to
- 47:19Speaker 2: watch this.
- 47:20Speaker 3: God damn it.
- 47:21Speaker 2: No, it is weird that Dan Schneider is kind of
- 47:23Speaker 2: like the... For a time, he was like the Jerry
- 47:25Speaker 2: Bruckheimer of kid shows. Like, that's what also is another thing. Like,
- 47:28Speaker 2: he had a cottage industry of anything.
- 47:30Speaker 3: And he brought so much money into his life.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Yes.
- 47:32Speaker 3: Because he just kept creating these shows, doing spinoffs, you know.
- 47:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:38Speaker 3: And he wanted Jeanette McCready to, like, have a spinoff.
- 47:42Speaker 3: She talks about that in her book. And, you know, so.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Yeah, those shows are why, because you do, I have
- 47:50Speaker 2: a niece and nephew, and when they were younger, what
- 47:51Speaker 2: they would watch, it would be the same thing of
- 47:53Speaker 2: just like, that's insane. And especially coming from an acting
- 47:56Speaker 2: background where you know the set-up, set-up punch, and the
- 47:59Speaker 2: rule of threes and all this stuff, and it's written
- 48:01Speaker 2: like a multi-cam sitcom, but then sometimes it would go
- 48:04Speaker 2: so far off base of a kid's show where I'd
- 48:06Speaker 2: look around and go, did my seven-year-old niece just catch that?
- 48:09Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't, though. That's the thing that was
- 48:12Speaker 3: so creepy. Speaking of child actors... Nothing gets a child
- 48:17Speaker 3: more work than a little girl that has a voice
- 48:20Speaker 3: like a Boca Raton realtor. And that is Lindsay Lohan.
- 48:24Speaker 3: It is. If you have a kid, honestly, if you
- 48:28Speaker 3: have a kid who has a scrap, a scratchy voice,
- 48:31Speaker 3: or if you're an attractive woman with a deep scratchy voice,
- 48:35Speaker 3: you can play a hot detective. Yeah. Always. Remember Angie Harmon?
- 48:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 48:41Speaker 3: Was a model with a, like all you, you can
- 48:43Speaker 3: be as gorgeous as possible. But you will be cast
- 48:47Speaker 3: as a hardcore detective as long as you have a scratchy,
- 48:50Speaker 3: deep voice.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Or, I mean, you had the Kathleen Turner back in
- 48:53Speaker 2: the day.
- 48:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 48:54Speaker 2: And she had that, like, and she, you know, there
- 48:56Speaker 2: was like a sexpot quality.
- 48:57Speaker 3: But like a Lindsay Lohan scratchy voice. It's just, anyway,
- 49:01Speaker 3: she did an article and interview and she said, I
- 49:06Speaker 3: wish that social media did exist when I was growing
- 49:10Speaker 3: up because then I could have, controlled my own narrative more,
- 49:13Speaker 3: which I thought was really interesting when you.
- 49:16Speaker 2: Think about it. It's interesting.
- 49:17Speaker 3: Because because when people have scandals or things that happen, um, nowadays,
- 49:23Speaker 3: if someone was to say, you know, like, like I
- 49:26Speaker 3: had this girl say awful stuff about me on a
- 49:29Speaker 3: Tik TOK, like the worst. And I was like, first
- 49:34Speaker 3: I was like, just ignore it. It's pissing me off.
- 49:36Speaker 3: Just ignore it. Then when I was reading misinformation, um,
- 49:40Speaker 3: in her video and the comments, I was like, well, yay.
- 49:45Speaker 3: Like I don't have to sit around or call publicists.
- 49:47Speaker 3: Like I just went and did my own thing.
- 49:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:49Speaker 3: And then I like let it go. And so with her, she,
- 49:54Speaker 3: she did have the publicists and stuff. And, and there
- 49:57Speaker 3: were things that maybe she feels like when, when all
- 50:01Speaker 3: that stuff was going on where she was going through trouble.
- 50:03Speaker 3: I mean, remember when she was dating, um, Sam. Oh yeah. Samantha.
- 50:07Speaker 2: Samantha Ronson. DJ Extreme, Samantha Ronson.
- 50:10Speaker 3: I remember one time seeing the two of them get
- 50:13Speaker 3: in a car. I was leaving another event, and Guys Nightclub,
- 50:16Speaker 3: remember that was happening? And I saw them hop in
- 50:19Speaker 3: a car, and I was like, oh my god! And
- 50:21Speaker 3: I started to chase them. Because I was so obsessed
- 50:24Speaker 3: with her having a lesbian relationship with Sam Ronson. So anyway,
- 50:30Speaker 3: I don't know that, you know, she thinks that it
- 50:34Speaker 3: could have gotten her in more trouble. She could have
- 50:37Speaker 3: done some really awful tweets back then. She could have
- 50:41Speaker 3: done some weird videos back then. Who knows? Maybe it
- 50:44Speaker 3: wouldn't have been good.
- 50:45Speaker 2: I mean, Amanda Bynes was in charge of her Twitter
- 50:47Speaker 2: account when everything was going down. I think the other
- 50:49Speaker 2: side of that, though, is when she was in that vortex,
- 50:52Speaker 2: which they all were at that time, it was like
- 50:54Speaker 2: Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan. If you study pop culture, you
- 50:57Speaker 2: know this period of time where they just kept getting arrested,
- 51:00Speaker 2: kept getting arrested. If they truly were in control of
- 51:03Speaker 2: she likes to think that she would be able to
- 51:05Speaker 2: speak as clearly as you did in your video combating
- 51:07Speaker 2: those things. But in reality, it would be like, you
- 51:09Speaker 2: know what's going on? You know what I hate? It
- 51:13Speaker 2: would go, I think, in a poor way. I just
- 51:16Speaker 2: think she wants to believe that it would have saved
- 51:18Speaker 2: her in a lot of ways.
- 51:20Speaker 3: I truly believe that everything works out the way it's
- 51:23Speaker 3: supposed to work out. She's making a Netflix comeback.
- 51:27Speaker 2: She has a Christmas movie.
- 51:29Speaker 3: We talked about that Christmas movie, which is... Basically, what
- 51:32Speaker 3: did we say it was? It was like Overboard meets
- 51:36Speaker 3: Paris Hilton reality. I don't know. But good for her. Yeah,
- 51:42Speaker 3: I've met her on a few occasions.
- 51:43Speaker 2: You do a great Allie Lohan.
- 51:45Speaker 3: When she did, she guest hosted Chelsea lately. And, you know,
- 51:50Speaker 3: children actors... Are highly intelligent because they– and they have
- 51:56Speaker 3: to be able to read and memorize and all this stuff.
- 51:59Speaker 2: And be around adults.
- 52:00Speaker 3: And so she did the show and she was our
- 52:05Speaker 3: guest host for like one day and so professional, so nice, funny.
- 52:11Speaker 3: I mean she's great. So hopefully she's staying– I don't
- 52:15Speaker 3: know if she's completely sober but not having any troubles really.
- 52:19Speaker 3: She got married. She– I mean– There's been some really
- 52:23Speaker 3: great Lindsay Lohan. My favorite was when she tried to
- 52:28Speaker 3: kidnap the Middle Eastern children from their parents.
- 52:32Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
- 52:32Speaker 3: The video.
- 52:33Speaker 2: She was like, no, come, come. And they were scared.
- 52:35Speaker 2: They told her to get away.
- 52:36Speaker 3: And she was speaking like Hilaria Baldwin, but with Middle
- 52:38Speaker 3: Eastern voice. Like she was like, how do you say,
- 52:42Speaker 3: do you need help? These children, these children are being
- 52:45Speaker 3: taken by these. People. And the woman's like, these are
- 52:48Speaker 3: my kids. What is wrong with you? And she's, I'm
- 52:51Speaker 3: going to film this because, you know, how do you say,
- 52:55Speaker 3: we're going to get to a shelter. Cucumbers. I loved that.
- 52:59Speaker 3: That was a great moment.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Also, speaking of guys, I used to be the general
- 53:02Speaker 2: manager of a nightclub that was a bottle service club
- 53:03Speaker 2: called Monroe's back in the day, Melrose.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 53:06Speaker 2: And I would like, it was so, it was when
- 53:09Speaker 2: before Lindsay Lohan was 21. Yeah. And we like, we
- 53:12Speaker 2: would let her in. Like this was before all this,
- 53:15Speaker 2: like it was, it was just a known thing. You
- 53:18Speaker 2: let those people in. Right. Like, you, you know, it's, oh,
- 53:20Speaker 2: Lindsay's with us. Okay, yeah, of course, just come in
- 53:22Speaker 2: the back door, you know? Yeah. That whole period of time,
- 53:24Speaker 2: it was like when Christina Aguilera would get hammered, when Christina,
- 53:27Speaker 2: you know, like, it was a very interesting time, and
- 53:30Speaker 2: I'd be up, because I was a nerd of pop culture,
- 53:32Speaker 2: I would be up just refreshing Perez Hilton every, you know, like,
- 53:35Speaker 2: just to see what's new and what's new. Like, it
- 53:37Speaker 2: was like when Misha Barton was dating Greasy Bear, and
- 53:41Speaker 2: it was like that period of time.
- 53:43Speaker 3: Greasy Bear was... That was Brandon Davies.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 53:47Speaker 3: And Brandon Davies' uncle was married to Kim Richards.
- 53:53Speaker 2: See, this is like the Kevin Bacon of it all.
- 53:57Speaker 2: I mean, even like you go to the Kardashian family
- 53:59Speaker 2: and how it's all interconnected with David Foster and all. Yes.
- 54:02Speaker 2: I mean, somebody could do a whole map.
- 54:04Speaker 3: And it's all connected to Heather McDowell because Brandon Davies'
- 54:09Speaker 3: aunt is Dana Davies. And when I was at USC...
- 54:15Speaker 3: She was a theta, and everybody was like, are you
- 54:18Speaker 3: going to go to Dana Davies' birthday party? And I'm like, no.
- 54:23Speaker 3: How do I get invited to this elaborate, fabulous party?
- 54:27Speaker 3: Because everyone was just like, why not be a friend?
- 54:29Speaker 3: She's so fucking rich. And I didn't get it, but
- 54:33Speaker 3: I was at a SAE party, and she was at it. Anyway.
- 54:39Speaker 2: At all?
- 54:39Speaker 1: Anyway.
- 54:40Speaker 3: At all?
- 54:40Speaker 2: You are the Kevin Bacon of pop culture.
- 54:41Speaker 3: I really am.
- 54:42Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
- 54:43Speaker 3: So let's talk about The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
- 54:48Speaker 3: We are done with it now. We are over with it.
- 54:52Speaker 3: I will say one thing I forgot to say on Monday, though.
- 54:55Speaker 3: When that part happens where Kathy Hilton goes, and you... Well,
- 55:01Speaker 3: I talked about that, touching the lump in her throat. Like, oh, please, Kyle,
- 55:06Speaker 3: it's got you, right?
- 55:07Speaker 2: She touches the lump in her throat.
- 55:08Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's like... She's like, oh, and you know
- 55:11Speaker 3: what you were saying, Lisa Renna? Ah, you're preaching to
- 55:15Speaker 3: the choir. You were right there with me. Okay, now
- 55:20Speaker 3: everyone's like, you know, why didn't Lisa Renna record?
- 55:26Speaker 2: Yes.
- 55:27Speaker 3: And I think there's two reasons. One is that Lisa
- 55:32Speaker 3: Renna is not There's a couple of theories of thought.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Lisa Renna is not as premeditated as we thought. Didn't
- 55:42Speaker 3: know where it was going to go. So in the beginning,
- 55:44Speaker 3: she was bonding with Kathy. And they were bitching about
- 55:49Speaker 3: the other cast together. And then it went worse. And
- 55:53Speaker 3: by that time, they're walking out of the van. She's
- 55:55Speaker 3: got her purse in the car. There's no place. Now
- 55:57Speaker 3: she's in the house. She locks the door. She just
- 55:59Speaker 3: never thinks. at that point didn't even think to record it.
- 56:02Speaker 3: Cause I don't think she's ever like secretly recorded anything before.
- 56:06Speaker 2: I vehemently disagree with you. I think, I think this,
- 56:10Speaker 2: I think 10, I think she's think, I think she
- 56:12Speaker 2: thinks she's playing like 40 chess, but it's like just
- 56:14Speaker 2: actual checkers. And I think she was like really excited
- 56:17Speaker 2: because she knew Kathy was in an agitated state. My,
- 56:20Speaker 2: like my thing was like, why did Kathy, like Kathy
- 56:23Speaker 2: is not as bumbling as people make her out to
- 56:25Speaker 2: be obviously. But like, I would think Kathy, even in
- 56:28Speaker 2: that agitated state would be like, There's no way in
- 56:30Speaker 2: hell Lisa Rinna's coming with me. There's no way in hell.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Because I think Kathy knows that Rinna's a shitster, but
- 56:36Speaker 2: I think immediately she knows how to get into fights
- 56:38Speaker 2: with all these Bravo Instagrammers, Rinna. She knows how to
- 56:40Speaker 2: do all of this. She's putting herself in eight boxes.
- 56:43Speaker 2: She's so thought out, I think, that this was completely
- 56:46Speaker 2: thought out. Okay. Sorry.
- 56:48Speaker 3: Disagree again. Because when they're going to the caribou club,
- 56:52Speaker 3: there's a moment where Kathy goes, I don't think they're
- 56:55Speaker 3: going to let me in this outfit. And Lisa Renna's
- 56:57Speaker 3: being really nice.
- 56:58Speaker 2: Yes.
- 56:59Speaker 3: And she's like, Kathy Hilton, you know. And Kathy even
- 57:03Speaker 3: says to Lisa, we've known each other for a really
- 57:05Speaker 3: long time. Like, we never really... They never had issues
- 57:08Speaker 3: before this trip.
- 57:09Speaker 2: Well, neither did her and Denise Richards.
- 57:11Speaker 3: And I think... So I have said this before, but
- 57:13Speaker 3: I think that... So she has a, you know... Listen,
- 57:18Speaker 3: we've all... Vented and talked to people. Yes! And then
- 57:22Speaker 3: been like, and by the way, like off the record,
- 57:25Speaker 3: this is between us. You kind of say that. Or
- 57:28Speaker 3: you write a text and you say, don't talk about this.
- 57:31Speaker 2: No bueno.
- 57:32Speaker 3: Yeah, no bueno. Just to like confirm like this is
- 57:36Speaker 3: between us. And at that point, Lisa Rinna had already
- 57:42Speaker 3: sent texts saying what went down. And was like, I
- 57:49Speaker 3: don't care that she's asked me not to say it.
- 57:50Speaker 3: I'm going to say it. And then I think she
- 57:52Speaker 3: shared it with Kyle. And then Kyle did that post. Oh,
- 57:56Speaker 3: you better believe we're going to talk about it. And
- 57:58Speaker 3: so the whole thing is, did Kyle give the bat
- 58:03Speaker 3: signal to the Fab Force Five to say, unleash the coyotes,
- 58:09Speaker 3: talk about it all. And then she was like, oh, shit.
- 58:14Speaker 3: I didn't really think about what this would do. It
- 58:17Speaker 3: was like, it's the same thing that every housewife does
- 58:19Speaker 3: when they go on a show and they think, oh,
- 58:26Speaker 3: I'm excited for the world and my husband to look
- 58:30Speaker 3: back and see what a dick he was on the show.
- 58:32Speaker 3: When actually the husband never, there's never been one time
- 58:35Speaker 3: where a husband is portrayed badly on a show and
- 58:38Speaker 3: he gets nicer. He divorces them. He divorces him because
- 58:42Speaker 3: he has to hear from all the Bravo people that
- 58:45Speaker 3: are like, you're an awful husband.
- 58:46Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, immediately.
- 58:47Speaker 3: And so they're like, oh, my God, I don't even
- 58:49Speaker 3: want to defend myself. I don't want to say I'm sorry. Like,
- 58:51Speaker 3: I just want to retreat back. I mean, maybe the
- 58:55Speaker 3: only person that— I would.
- 58:55Speaker 2: Say PK actually has raised an esteem with the Bravo audiences.
- 58:59Speaker 2: A lot of people think PK is like, you know,
- 59:02Speaker 2: his new chomper. He's like, putamita, that's where we go.
- 59:05Speaker 2: He's always popping up. And, like, people find him charming
- 59:08Speaker 2: now where in the beginning they didn't.
- 59:09Speaker 3: But he has always been very sweet and respectful to Dorit.
- 59:14Speaker 3: We have never seen him, like, ever be rude. And
- 59:20Speaker 3: I think any time they catch a husband... being a
- 59:23Speaker 3: little bit dismissive or rude or whatever or or shane
- 59:28Speaker 3: from from oc emily or any of that it's like
- 59:32Speaker 3: they launch on it because women want to see that
- 59:35Speaker 3: other husbands are awful it's their favorite thing yeah it's
- 59:39Speaker 3: a pastime it's their favorite thing to go oh my
- 59:42Speaker 3: god it's not but then if they see someone that
- 59:44Speaker 3: doesn't like they you know will like them to an
- 59:46Speaker 3: extent so um Anyway, okay, well, we may never, ever
- 59:51Speaker 3: agree with this. Now, what is your prediction of the cast?
- 59:55Speaker 3: Because you just came in with some scoop, and I
- 59:57Speaker 3: said save it for the pod.
- 59:58Speaker 2: So, Demois, of course, she actually posted a blind today,
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: and Bravo and Cocktails, I think, picked it up as well,
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: saying that they are putting the show on pause. So
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: it's not written on pause that they're going to do
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: what they did to New York and let it breathe. And,
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: you know, which I would have, you know, you could
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: see it going that way, too. You're like, OK, it's
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: gotten too intense actually behind the scenes. The stuff we're
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: not privy to. Obviously, you know, lawsuits have been threatened.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: There still is this Rinna, Kathy. I mean, Rinna still
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: to this day, like, I'm never going to talk about
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: it ever again. And then yesterday she's posting stories about it.
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: She's posting this.
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: What did she post?
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: Well, she posted the receipts of like because Andy and
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: the receipts. Remember in the first episode of The Reunion? Yeah.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: Andy's like, oh, I see you brought receipts. Supposedly they
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: had filmed the receipts and Andy on his show said
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: the receipts were actually involving the Elton John AIDS fundraiser
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: and we had already hit that so hard. She says
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: there was more in that that Andy is not saying.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: So we continue this mystery when she's like, it's supposed
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: to be done. The season is over. We can all relax.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: And she's keeping this going. So I could see where
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: they might need to put it on pause just to
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: regroup and see where even all these ladies are with
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: each other. Like, and the Diana Jenkins thing yesterday with, like,
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: the bot mystery. Yeah. I mean, I think Diana's one
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: and done by her choice. So who knows?
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, there was no, like, fun or click
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: or anything with her.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: And she just disappeared towards the end.
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: They said, we found a bot. It was someone in
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: San Francisco, but we don't know anything.
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, we know one. But they also
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: pointed out that like they also had found so many
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: overseas things. And obviously people were using VPNs to mask
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: their identity. So Garcelle posted something just even this morning going,
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: you know, like pretty much alleging like there is still
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: no news about this. There's not like she didn't post.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: We have found this person, you know, and it's not
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: just one person, but they're saying they have tracked it
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: down to it was like queen of the something underscore thing.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: to this one account near the San Francisco area.
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: So Diana's claiming, like, I have done it! Diana Jenkins,
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: I've solved the case! And supposedly in this same press
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: release that, you know, more lawsuits are pending or more
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: cease and desist or just more law. Like, the amount
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: her lawyers have made this year off of this show
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: has got to be astounding.
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I.
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: I don't know. They're probably going to bring in some
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: new people. I talked to Dorit at the Halloween party
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: and I go, here's the thing. I'm like, she's like, oh,
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: you know, who knows? It's just, you know, whatever. And
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to see anyone go. I
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: am never someone that says, fire them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: I never want to see any of them go.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: And everybody, I think, needs two seasons.
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: Except for Diana can go, sorry.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Yeah, but also, I was still, up until the season desist,
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: I was still like, every housewife needs two seasons just
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: to relax into it, to see if there's another side
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: that might come out in the second season.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: I know, but I still don't need to see Diana.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: But what about, can we keep Asher? Diana.
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think if we could just get one
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: or two new chicks to... And also the.
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the Will Smith ex-wife, she's.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: She kind of disappeared.
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: It's not any fault of her own. She just didn't
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: have any involvement. If she was driving the Sprinter van,
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: then she would have a second season. She wasn't in Aspen.
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: There was no way to her get footing. So she
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: got to go to some parties... But, like, it doesn't show,
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: She couldn't be great on- Wait, I think she was
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: in Aspen, actually. That's how, like, remember she was, like,
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: wasn't she at, like, Kimo Sa at the hat store?
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: Oh, I guess you're right.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: But that's how in the background she was.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: Was that she was there, but we kind of in
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: our minds are like, was she there?
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: But it, like, kind of is a bummer because people
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: are like, who cares about her? I'm like, it's not
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: her fault. She's acting like a normal person. It's in
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: a reality show. She just wasn't any part of the drama.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: But Heather, as an actor, though, don't you think the
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: Lisa Rinna, like, stuff, We've seen it– it's like an
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: actor that is like a caricature of herself at this
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: point where it's like there's no real in reality there anymore.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: It's like so extreme and so like Sunset Boulevard at
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: this point where I just feel like you are forcing–
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: like even as a soap opera actor, I feel like
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: it's pushed.
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Is there any– like I mean I just feel like
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: we're seeing it again and again and again. Okay.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: So what is your prediction?
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: If they– I still have this weird alleged belief that
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: like Rena was behind the scenes on some stuff that
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: I don't think she should have been. If that can
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: be proven, I think you automatically have to leave her.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: If not, like I've said before, leave everybody, like let
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: everybody stay. Like, I'm not the biggest fan of Rinna, obviously,
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: and I'm not the biggest fan of Erika Jayne. But also,
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: I want to see... Like, why did we... Erika Jayne
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: talks about getting dick the whole season. We don't see
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: a shadowy figure outside the pool house. Like, yeah, I'm
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: getting dick.
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: Like, why don't we see... I want to see her
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: on a date.
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: I said that, too.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: I want to see that.
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: Like, come on. Well, we'll see what happens. Matthew Perry,
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: we talked about this. Well, we have not talked about it.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: We've talked about the book. I watched the interview with
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: Darren Sawyer. And, you know, it was... You know, it
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: was really interesting. It's really sad. And it's just something
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: that anytime I've, like, read anything about addiction or known
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: people in my family with addiction, it's that first moment
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: that they get drunk or high. And they're like, now
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: I feel normal. And it doesn't mean that you came
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: from a family of abuse. And it doesn't mean it just,
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: there's something in you that the first time that you
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: get drunk or high, that you feel normal, that the
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: addiction kicks in and another person can get drunk at
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: 14 and wait another two weeks and maybe get buzzed
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: again or whatever, or have a normal life. And it's
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: just a really scary thing as a parent, because it's like,
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: I don't know what my kid's reaction will be, um,
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: You know, my two older kids have gotten drunk and
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: had drinks and seem to be fine today. But, like,
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: I mean, I have another son that has not had anything.
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: Like, it's really scary. I don't even know what that
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: would be like as a parent to, like, think and
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: then hear these stories.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: It's so scary because you just don't know.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Like, that was the part that stood out to me. Like,
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: the Matthew Perry, like, laying on the ground. He goes,
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: this is what normal people must feel like all the time.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: And you're just like, what if you did? Like, I
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: don't know. I can't imagine what my parents were like
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: thinking of that too, of like, I remember being like
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: drunk as a skunk for the first time. And my mom,
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: I believe during college and was like Christmas break, my
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: mom having to come get me and putting like a
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: grocery bag over my head to catch whatever, like if
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: I got sick in the car and like, she taught
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: me a lesson the next day I had to work.
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: And she was like, I'm sick. And she's like, no,
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: you get up and you go to work. This is
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: what happens. Like you will fulfill your responsibility. And it
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: taught me a big lesson that day of like, you know, don't,
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: I don't know. It's really sad.
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: It's really sad. And I really feel like, you know,
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: his stepdad is Keith Morrison. I know.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: We saw those pictures.
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: And I really thought, my God, no one thinks about
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: what it must have been like for Keith Morrison to
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: marry this woman who he loves, who every day is
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: waking up struggling because her son is struggling.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: Like, it doesn't matter how rich you are. And, you know,
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: Kris Jenner said this to me, and I think this
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: is so freaking true. As a mom, you're only as
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: happy as your least happy child.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: That's what my mom, my mom, like, not, I.
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: Mean, that's not her, it's not her famous, I don't
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: know what came up with the saying, but it means so,
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: it means the same. So I'm like, it doesn't matter, like,
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: that you, it's just so hard. And I mean, he does,
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: he does talk about That his parents were there and
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: he almost died and all these times and it's just.
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: Like– He's a colostomy bag for the love of God.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: It's just a shame and– but that's what I got
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: out of it. I unfortunately don't think there's that much
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: juicy scoop in this book.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: But can you imagine Keith Morrison having to talk to
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: Matthew Parent? Like was there like Matthew? Like in that
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: Keith Morrison voice of like, where were you last night?
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: you know, like in that kind of dateline voice that
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: just must've been, I just keep thinking I used to
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: want to be Matthew Perry so bad as a young actor.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: And like, I would have, I like, he said he
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: prayed to be famous and all that. He's a God.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: I don't care what you do to me. Just make
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: me famous. But for all us young actors growing up,
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: like when friends was like the biggest show on TV, uh,
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: I used to pray that I could be Matthew Perry.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: I used to pray that I could like, you know,
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: just even land a job even close to that. And
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: then to hear that throughout that whole time, he was
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: only sober one season. That's the crushing reality of Hollywood
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: is that it didn't matter. Like, you know, like not,
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: he was going through like hell the whole time. And
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: I thought he was one of my heroes. Right.
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: It's always like, I always say that about so many people,
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: like when you hear something awful or what they're struggling with,
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: I and I will be like all the money in
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: the world. Like wouldn't trade, would not trade, like no.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: And it's just, yeah, that I remember that. I remember
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: being in an acting class with this guy and he's like,
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: I see myself as a Matthew Perry and he was
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: wearing the bowling shirts. And he was like, practicing the
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: cadence of the sitcom talk. And like, and you know,
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: there were so many copycat pilots. Like there was one
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: in San Francisco and there was one literally in Anchorage
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: that my friend got the last one season. There was
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: one in Chicago. Like everyone was trying to do these
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: copycat shows and trying to have that momentum and everything.
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: And it was also just really amazing. And also just
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: like when they flashback to the Jennifer Aniston part where
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: she was like, when she was brought up in 2004
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: after the show had ended and she started to cry
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: when Diane Sawyer asked her about Matthew and she's just like,
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: we didn't know what to do. And, and it's, and that's,
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: what's really hard. Like whether you look back and you're
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: only a kid and you're like, why didn't I tell
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: my mom that my brother was using whatever the case
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: might be. And it's like, don't, you need to forgive
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: yourself because like they think about it. They, they, Didn't
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: want to end the show for everybody involved from the
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: grip to the whatever. And they didn't want to betray
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: him by being like, listen, you've got to take him
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: off the show. He's got to have immediate rehab. And
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: they're just almost hoping every day that they can get
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: through it and he doesn't die on their watch without
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: them doing everything that they were kind of probably torn inside. Like,
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: how far do we take it? Because he's still managing
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: to show up.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: And he thinks he's keeping this huge secret. He thinks
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: he's doing the best job. And that's the thing that's
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: fascinating about people is the lengths they'll go through, whether
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: it be your Randall Emmett's or the secrets that they
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: keep that later on you're like, Uh, I didn't see
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: that at all.
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: I was around this person.
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: I was worried, but I didn't know the extent that
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: I should have been worried.
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: The hiding. Yeah.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: And then when he said that he, um, would go
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: to the open houses and steal from the, from the
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: Viking and everyone's medicine cabinet. And as a realtor, I
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: would always follow the people and I was selling a
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: house and they were like, make sure, you know, you
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: never let anyone go upstairs by themselves. And I guess
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: we did. And something was stolen. But it was a
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: very rare red-headed Cabbage Patch doll.
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: Oh.
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: No, it was bad. People were fucking pissed. And I
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: was like, was Matthew Perry... Selling that couch, that's all
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: for drugs. No, but I mean, like, really, I was like,
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: this is like a really, that's now like most homes
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: I feel like are like staged for this exact reason.
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Oppenheim group isn't doing this.
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like, yeah, you just don't have, like,
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: but back then people, staging didn't even exist and people
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: would go in and could take stuff.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: They just sold the house I was living in, me
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: and my roommate and the agency had the listing and,
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: And it was like right off Melrose and Martel and
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: really nice place. And they did these open houses and
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: I didn't even think, but like my home studio is
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: in there and I have a giant oil painting of
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: Tom Girardi and his brothers from the auction.
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: And I have lingerie and I have all of these
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: like stupid memorabilia, like where like, and the, the agency person,
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: like I didn't realize like the agency connection, the agency
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: was like, we had a couple of questions about the room. Um,
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: People were scared. Next time, if you could take down some, like,
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: I would put pictures of, like, Diana Jenkins and stuff.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: So I was trying to do, like, you know, retail
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: juicy scoop, you know, when I would talk about it.
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that, like, that would possibly creep
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: people out of going into a man's room and seeing
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: just Erica Jane lingerie, just a bunch of Bravo products
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: and a huge oil pan.
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: Hilarious.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: Um, I just didn't know if you were made aware
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: of this, that Hilaria Baldwin, she too has a podcast.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: Thank God. Yes.
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: And we listened to just a little trailer. No accent.
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: But isn't she from, but she's from Spain, right? Like she's,
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: that's where she's from. So how would she.
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: Not have a... I mean, very funny though, like that
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: she is not keeping up. I think it's just because,
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: I think it's because, um, Alex not around. I think
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: she created that whole persona to get Alec Baldwin. And
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: I don't think I've said this before. I think when
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: it all came out that she really wasn't from Spain,
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: even though he'd talk about it on talk shows, you know,
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: my wife is Spanish and she's from Spain and blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: And he would do the accent and everyone, you know,
- 1:13:57Speaker 3: loved it. It was so funny. And when it got
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: all revealed that she didn't and people were like, did,
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: was Alec in on it? I'm like, do you think
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: he asked her about her high school career? Do you
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: think he ever was like, so what was high school
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: like growing up in Spain? When did you become fluent
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: in English? He never fucking asked her. He didn't care.
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: But the little bit that I heard, she sounds very American-born.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, probably better. I'm from Kansas. She probably
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: has more American of an accent than I do. And
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: the thing is, I just love that the further you wait,
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: the more people forget. So eventually, if she just keeps
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: avoiding and avoiding... But I would have loved to have
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: been on those conversations when it first hit because Alex
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: did use this at every talk show appearance. He would
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: be wife Spain jokes on Stern.
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: Also, I love that it's always outspoken and unfiltered.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: Oh, shut up.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: You're not outspoken. What have you talked about that's been outspoken?
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: Outspoken and complete liar.
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: What have you taken a big stance on? The use
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: of cucumber in a recipe? What has been outspoken about you?
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: When has there been an article about you written like,
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: I cannot believe Hilaria Baldwin.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: She blew the lid off this. Yeah. Who cares?
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: Yep. Okay, tell me, we're going to end on Winterhouse,
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: which I'm not watching, but I would like, I know
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: a lot of people are. What is the scoop on Winterhouse?
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: Have you, you're familiar with Summerhouse, right?
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: Summerhouse, and I know most of these people.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: So this is a combination of like Southern Charm cast
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: members and Summerhouse cast members. They go to Stowe, Vermont,
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: where Kyle Cook from Summerhouse, like he used to grow
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: up like skiing with his parents. So they put them
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: in this house. They give them unlimited booze, I'm assuming.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: But we're seeing them now on the, like, kind of
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: having a little bit of that Bravo fame. So this
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: second season is already amazing because Craig Conover from Southern Charm,
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: he's like the pillow king and has pillow money. So
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: he takes the main route with Paige DeSorbo from Summer House.
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: They're dating.
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: And he gives Kyle and Amanda... $ 500 each so they
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: won't bitch about not having the main room. And you go,
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: here's for your time. And he refuses to clean up.
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: So he like binge drinks because his sorority buddy, his
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: fraternity buddy is on this show now.
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: Which one is that guy?
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: This is the first season picture. The second season, he's
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: the guy that wears a pearl necklace. His name's Corey
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: and he wears a pearl necklace. He's a double necklace wearer,
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: which is always something to worry about. Is he straight? Yeah.
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: All the girls in the house.
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: Like him right now. He wears like a full pearl
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: strand or just one pearl?
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: One pearl necklace. A full pearl strand necklace.
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: I've noticed that guys are starting to wear pearl necklaces.
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: Have you? Yeah, but everyone that I saw was a
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: gay guy wearing a pearl necklace.
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: No, this is Craig's fraternity brother. And so he's a
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: new cast member. But it's really interesting because Craig is
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: in this kind of King of Bravo stance where he's
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: like binge drinking alcohol. He's stomping on tables like the
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: Kool-Aid man. He's the guy, yeah, with, you'll see there,
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: to the right of Austin.
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: I cannot believe that Paige has like ski jacket boots on.
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: Those are so cute on her. I'm dying right now.
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: Paige is gorgeous.
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: But Craig, Craig is like, Paige will be in the
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: bedroom with Amanda laying down and just like, it's hysterical
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: because Paige had so much to say about Kyle and
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: Amanda's relationship.
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: Oh my God, who's this girl that has like, like
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: a globe on her inner thigh. What is that? She's
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: got crazy tattoos.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: She was the florist from Summer House that did Kyle
- 1:17:31Speaker 2: and Amanda's Flowers. And now she's on this show. So
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: it's like a weird.
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: Oh, and this is.
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: And Jason's the guy that used to be with Lindsay
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: last season. And they had the trigger warning, like the baby,
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: the miscarriage. But anyways, Austin just came in. So it's
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: basically just people binge drinking in a small house and
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: then waking up the next day and doing like man
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: do man activities. They go skiing and like ski hard.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: And then the girls stay back and like talk with
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: each other. But for me, it's completely fascinating just because
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: it's the minutia of these like relationships. It's like, I
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: find not as now coming off the Matthew Perry story,
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: this is horrible. The binge drinking is funny to me
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: in this thing because Craig, by the way, sorry, I'm
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: realizing now I'm, to blame for this no it's just
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: like Craig is like the pillow king and he tries
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: to hold himself and like he's getting into fights like
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: Luke if you flip in touch Paige's hair one more
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: time I'm gonna fucking end you and it's just all
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: this testosterone that I find hysterical because that's not how
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: my life has been so it's like just guys fighting
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: with guys and girls talking to girls and I could watch.
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: It forever alright well good I'm glad for you I'm
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: glad you like it I'm glad you like it.
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: So.
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: Lake, I fast forward through some stuff too.
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: Like a little bit.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: See, for me, this has been such a breath of
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: fresh air from like the high intensity movies. Of the
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: social media aspect of Beverly Hills. So I kind of enjoy,
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: like Salt Lake, we only have five women here. And
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: I feel like that's another thing. Even Jen Shah is
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: coming off likable in these things where you're just like,
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: I cannot wait for that flip to happen where she
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: has to like change her plea. So to me, it
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: works on two levels where I'm kind of enjoying that
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: each of these ladies, like Lisa Barlow talking to her
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: son and he's like, fudge college mom. That to me
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: was hysterical. Like fudge college. Like that was like him
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: being rebellious by saying the fudge word, but not even,
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: For me, it's a refreshing breath after Beverly Hills. Yeah.
- 1:19:37Speaker 3: Okay. It's good. It's just not, they're just not Beverly Hills. No, nothing. See,
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: Beverly Hills is.
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: The Michael Bay of reality shows.
- 1:19:46Speaker 3: Yes, but I'm watching it all. I'm watching it all.
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: Wait, is there any show that you love to watch
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: that you're like, I sit down and it like goes
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: so quick that it's not, doesn't feel like work?
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills.
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. Even when it was like, okay, so, but Beverly, I.
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: Mean, that's never been boring to me. I have never
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: fast forward through anything on Beverly Hills.
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: And you've probably went back and rewatch scenes too.
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, I just think like, there's just times where
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: I'm like, there'll be a new character on one of
- 1:20:14Speaker 3: these housewives and they'll be like talking to their husband
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: or talking to their kid or something. And I'm just like,
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: I don't care. The only times I fast forward through
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: scenes is when one person isn't with any of the housewives.
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: And it's like, honestly, I'm going to say it. I
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: don't care. This is so mean.
- 1:20:39Speaker 4: Do it. Please.
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: I don't want to know about your parents, your elderly
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: parents' health stuff.
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: So you couldn't go there with Rinna on that stuff?
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: It's not that I couldn't go there. I'm okay with
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: her talking. I'm saying featuring Rinna. The older person that's...
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: I've said this before. People... The women that sit down
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: and watch the show, and they are women, majority of it,
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: besides Ryan. They're women. I know there's a lot more guys.
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: No, it's just me.
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: But we don't want to see your potty training struggles.
- 1:21:12Speaker 3: We know you think it's really funny. It's not entertaining.
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: And a lot of people deal with worrying about their
- 1:21:19Speaker 3: elderly parents.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: So.
- 1:21:22Speaker 3: I don't, I, I, I just, I never found those
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: scenes like with like rest in peace. My parents are
- 1:21:28Speaker 3: gone too. And there was a time I thought they were,
- 1:21:30Speaker 3: I always thought my parents were so funny. Okay. And
- 1:21:33Speaker 3: then there, there was a time where like these people
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: came and like wanted to do a show about us
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: and they were like so bad on camera. So bad
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: on camera and like so awkward and so guarded. And
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: it's why I think sometimes when, comedians and get a
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: sitcom about their life and then people act as those people,
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: they're also not funny. Like, there's times where you just
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: telling a story about your family as a stand-up is
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: such a funnier art form than seeing it, like, acted out. Oh, yeah, because...
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: And so I think, like, you know, so I think, like,
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: I get it. That's their life. So we have to
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: see that, you know, like Dolores' mom being sick. Like,
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: I feel for her. She's a good daughter. To me,
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: it's just not interesting. It's, like, it's depressing and sad
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: and so many of us are dealing with, like, at
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: this age, like parents going sick or getting Alzheimer's. I,
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: but we have to show up because we gotta be
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: real to the show. But like that to me is
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: not interesting. I'd like to see more husbands. I'm bummed
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: that like Beverly Hills, there's no men in it.
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: Yeah. And why did they, why did we lose on
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: the reunion? Like the, the men come for the other reunions,
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, you had Mauricio PK. Like, I mean, I
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: love that we still have never seen one like of
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: like Kathy's husband, like brick. You know, like, we've just
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: seen pictures. But, I mean, those husbands, I think, like,
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: they don't even get brought out of the reunion this year.
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: Well, I think because they wanted Kathy so badly that she,
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like anybody that, like, I remember
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: when I got my job at Chelsea Lately, I was like,
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I'll never ask to leave early for
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: my kids and nothing, nothing, nothing. And then a few
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: years later, they hire Josh Wolfe, who's leaving at three
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: o'clock to see his son's baseball game. And he was like, yeah,
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: I told him if they wanted me, I'm leaving when
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: my kid has a baseball game. And the kid was 14.
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: And I was like, what? And I'm like, they just...
- 1:23:19Speaker 3: So I think she... She just was like, no, you're
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: not going to see my husband. He's not comfortable being
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: on it. He's not an idiot. He knows he's not
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: going to look great. He knows he could look old
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: or fumbling or just not. It's just not his jam.
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: And I think PK and Marisa like it. They love
- 1:23:36Speaker 3: the timeline. And they come off great. So it's fine.
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: They don't, you know. And then also I think sometimes
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: they go out to dinner with other Braavos people. And
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: those men... are like, stay the fuck out of it
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: as much as you can. I mean, do you remember when...
- 1:23:55Speaker 3: Who was it? It was Yolanda got into it with...
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: Who did she get into it with? What Beverly Hills
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: husband was like.
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: Was it PK?
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: No, was it.
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: Because, no, PK was with Erika Jayne originally.
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: Well, I want to say, was it Ken or something?
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: Was it around the Limes?
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: I don't know, but, like, it just... It looks so bad.
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: What's really bad is... if the woman is being attacked
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: by the other women and the husband doesn't do anything
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: about it, Ken Todd was getting mad at, you know,
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: like we all know Ken Todd is, you know, so
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: their relationship is he's very protective of, of Lisa Vanderpump.
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: But now I think that people have been watching these
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: shows for 15 years. A husband comes in and has
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: probably had Real Housewife husband consultants type of people be like,
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: I've talked to these people where they're like, oh, we
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: all know to stay in the back and we don't
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: get involved. We let them have their fights. We're having
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: drinks in the back. We hate when the cameras come around.
- 1:24:58Speaker 3: We don't say anything interesting. We don't get involved. And
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: they're smart. But then you get the thirst traps like
- 1:25:04Speaker 3: the Real Housewives of New Jersey that want to go
- 1:25:06Speaker 3: on tour together.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: Oh, they're doing a comedy show.
- 1:25:08Speaker 3: And so good for them.
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: But also, I miss, and then you have the ones
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: that don't get it yet for the first season ones,
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: like the Aaron, Denise Richards' husband. Yes. I'm like, let
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: me explain about 5G to everybody. And Mauricio's like, I just,
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: I'm stoned just trying to enjoy myself around the cameras.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: And he's like, let me tell you about Faraday cages.
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: And like, that's what I live for is those moments.
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: And then you know that she, being that she's, you know,
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: an experienced person, and she was probably like grabbing his leg.
- 1:25:34Speaker 3: And then when they left the party, she's like, we
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: are miked.
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: And we're also being followed by Big Pharma right now.
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: She knew they were like doomed when he was trying
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: to explain his weird business.
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: Yes.
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: And like, you know, and thank God for OnlyFans. And
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: now he takes photos of her and she's like hard.
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: Don't you love her OnlyFans journey started because of her
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: daughter's OnlyFans journey? Isn't that wild? Her daughter started it
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: and then Denise realized it was a good pathway to go. No. No?
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: It started because the daughters became 18. Okay. And there's
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: no child support. And I don't think a lot of
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: people are going to Erin's thing. And I think she
- 1:26:09Speaker 3: realized I'm still pretty and I can make this at
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: home and be with my younger daughter who's special needs
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: instead of going and doing a movie in Canada.
- 1:26:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: Well, she used to come to the acting studio.
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: I think it was a lot of things that lined
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: up in which it just made sense for her to
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: do it.
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: Would it make sense to you for her to come
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: back to Beverly Hills? If they make no cast changes,
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: would you want to see her back?
- 1:26:31Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: Would you want to go further and bring like Brandy
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: and Camille? How far would you go?
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: I really like Brandy. I don't think she'd fit in anymore,
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: but I think that, and I, but I like Brandy
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: like on a girl's trip and stuff. I just don't
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: think her lifestyle is, like, fitting in with the girls.
- 1:26:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: And I don't think she, like, has a connection to
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: any of them. I noticed that, like, Camille and Denise and, like,
- 1:26:59Speaker 3: they do stuff together. And so it's, like, if they
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: could come in together as ex-wives, like, there has to
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: be a friendship. And Camille is cool.
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: Like, she's... And Camille, I mean, Camille is very active
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: in Housewives Twitter and Housewives everything. Yeah. And Sutton.
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: And she wants to come back, of course. And so
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: it's like.
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. They all want to come back. But Sutton
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: was collecting an army, it seemed, recently because she was
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: posting photos with everybody. Camille, Brant... I'm like, Sutton is
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: getting file and ranks behind her. She started taking people
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: to the Stevie Nicks concert, like old cast members. So
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on behind the scenes?
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: I think they may have just seen each other there.
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: But that's what a great picture.
- 1:27:37Speaker 3: But that's what's good.
- 1:27:38Speaker 2: It's smart.
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: Get the photo. Exactly. And it's like... So I think... Yeah,
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: I think that that would be really juicy. But that's
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: what I find interesting about the husband aspect. It's like, yeah, like,
- 1:27:49Speaker 3: and that's probably annoying. That's probably annoying to Lisa Rinna, too,
- 1:27:52Speaker 3: because she's like, do you know how much, like, Harry
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: fucking bitches at me when he even has to do
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: one scene and make a blueberry pie?
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: Harry's going to do regional theater just to get away
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: from filming.
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So, like, that's probably also builds to her resentment,
- 1:28:06Speaker 3: you know? And I'm sure there's times where Lisa Rinna's
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: venting to someone and being like, Harry fucking Hamlin.
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: Had to serve.
- 1:28:13Speaker 3: We had to compost, okay, motherfucker? And that fucking, you know,
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: Rick Helton, we don't even see him sip a martini. Like,
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: comes to nothing, doesn't... They don't even get to ask
- 1:28:25Speaker 3: her about it. And if they do, it gets cut.
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: Why is someone like... Why doesn't Rick... There could be scenes.
- 1:28:32Speaker 3: Because if I was Lisa Rinna, I would be like, Kyle,
- 1:28:36Speaker 3: let me ask you a question. Do you think Rick
- 1:28:39Speaker 3: is still bitter that... Mauricio has the biggest real estate
- 1:28:41Speaker 3: company in all the world? And when he had.
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: Him join his company. You guys were living in a
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: one-bedroom apartment. Do you think that bothers Cathy? Do you
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: think that bothers Cathy? And then, like, yeah, and then,
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: of course.
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: You know that's all on the cutting... Like, the Secrets
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: Revealed episode for this season would be insane, because it
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: would be all Rinna, I'm sure, bringing up topics that
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: they could not use.
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think... I mean, I think Cathy, like,
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: had that down. Like, he's not going to be in it.
- 1:29:08Speaker 4: Yes.
- 1:29:08Speaker 3: Neither is Paris and Nikki.
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: And I want to promote my tequila.
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: Neither is Baron and Conrad. Not one kid we've seen...
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: And that's why she's like, that's fine. Make me a friend.
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: And she also did have that relationship with NBC Peacock
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: because I Love Paris that she was like a lead
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: on was on Peacock.
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: So she can throw her dick around.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: I do think she was saying, I'll destroy this. Like
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: all those ladies, all those ladies I've seen have fits.
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: The only difference is this one wasn't on camera.
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: But she did say, I'm just a friend, but I
- 1:29:35Speaker 3: won't come back as a friend if Erica and Lisa
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: are there. And I think she's just like, I think
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: she's fine either way. I think if they ask her back,
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: And they don't come back. She'll have won the ultimate
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: like thing. And if they say, sorry, do you still
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: want to do it? She can always change her mind.
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: Or she can say, no, I'm not going to.
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: I think it's like Tom Brady in the offseason where
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: she'll be like, no, I'm not doing it. And then
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: it gets closer and all the fans are clamoring because
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: she really does seem to like the fan attention.
- 1:30:04Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: I'll see her pop up in just random posts that
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: she's not tagged in. And so I think it could
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: be that. And she'll be like, no, I'm coming back.
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: I'm playing. I've got to play. I've got to do
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: this season. I think even with.
- 1:30:16Speaker 3: That, like Wendy Osefa. Okay, what about... This could be
- 1:30:19Speaker 3: so juicy. It's never going to happen, but it's a dream.
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: This is my dream. Of a cast. Okay. Kim Richards.
- 1:30:29Speaker 3: Kathy and Kyle.
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: Did I just quiver?
- 1:30:32Speaker 3: Kim, Kyle, and Kathy. Okay. Denise, Lisa Renna, Camille, Erica Jane.
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: That's it.
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: Wait, what about Evander?
- 1:30:48Speaker 3: Oh, and Dorit.
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: Dorit's just there.
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: Just keep Dorit. And listen, this is no diss against
- 1:30:53Speaker 3: anybody else. This will never happen. But imagine, because we
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: can't have 12 people, imagine that as a cast.
- 1:31:00Speaker 5: It would be. No.
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: And by the way, that should be Kyle's last season, too,
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: with the Kim and Kathy, that. Kyle should be going
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: in like football players are like, this is my last season,
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: my last season going into filming and they treat it
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: like that. And then it would be just so exciting
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: and it would be brutal because Kyle would walk out
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: of there just battered and beaten. And also with the
- 1:31:22Speaker 2: Lisa Rinna stuff, I think there's a good chance of
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: like a ghost of Christmas past kind of thing with
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: bringing like Denise and all of these people Lisa has
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: wronged over these seasons to come back and haunt her.
- 1:31:32Speaker 2: in Lisa's final season. Like, this could be incredible.
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: Like, yeah, remember when Lisa Rinna said, like, you know,
- 1:31:38Speaker 3: that she, the other thing is she does exaggerate when
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: she's like, Kim is near death. Kim's near death. And
- 1:31:44Speaker 3: then Kyle's like, did you say my sister was near death?
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: And she's.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: Like, Jesus. The silent film acting phase.
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: I don't remember saying that. So then when Kathy said,
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: do you remember saying, Uh, you're preaching to the choir,
- 1:32:03Speaker 3: which I think is a pretty like specific line near
- 1:32:07Speaker 3: death and preaching to the choir is a pretty specific
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: line that I definitely think came out of those lips.
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: Everybody check out your podcast. Give the spiel.
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- 1:32:21Speaker 2: Bailey and the Instagram account is the same. It's like
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- 1:32:49Speaker 2: just check me out and, You can find everything on
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: my Instagram page. And this is just Heather. Thank you
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: so much. You know what a big deal this is
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- 1:33:05Speaker 2: But thank you.
- 1:33:06Speaker 3: No, like this was a big deal. Like, come on.
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: Like I told you, this was it was huge when
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