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- 0:04Speaker 1: At 7.40 in the morning on August 9th, 2011. A
- 0:07Speaker 1: birdwatcher named Gloria Erickson walked the eastern bank of Lacamont
- 0:11Speaker 1: Retention Pond and found a fire-resistant document, safe sitting in
- 0:15Speaker 1: the shallows, with its lid forced open. The foam lining
- 0:18Speaker 1: inside was still faintly dry. Whatever had been in there
- 0:22Speaker 1: had not been in the water long. Two things were
- 0:25Speaker 1: left inside that safe. A laminated employee badge from the
- 0:28Speaker 1: Sutter Falls Youth Athletic Association and a handwritten ledger, Columns
- 0:32Speaker 1: of numbers in blue ballpoint, with a single word written
- 0:35Speaker 1: across the top. Reconciled. Gloria called the non-emergency line. Within
- 0:40Speaker 1: 48 hours, a financial crimes investigator named Christine Vogel had
- 0:45Speaker 1: the safe on her desk and the full weight of
- 0:47Speaker 1: a question she could not yet answer. Who throws away
- 0:50Speaker 1: the proof that they were keeping score? That question would
- 0:53Speaker 1: take investigators inside a decade-long operation running beneath 4,000 children's
- 0:57Speaker 1: baseball and soccer seasons. It would expose a structure so
- 1:01Speaker 1: carefully layered that the people running it had, for years,
- 1:04Speaker 1: nothing to fear from anyone. Not from auditors. Not from
- 1:08Speaker 1: the board. Not from the bank. The answer, when it came,
- 1:12Speaker 1: would not arrive the way anyone expected. Sutter Falls is
- 1:15Speaker 1: the kind of mid-sized city where civic life runs on
- 1:18Speaker 1: a small number of institutions that everyone knows and no
- 1:21Speaker 1: one examines too closely. The school district. The hospital auxiliary.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And the Sutter Falls Youth Athletic Association. which by 2011
- 1:29Speaker 1: had approximately 4,000 registered players per year and an annual
- 1:34Speaker 1: operating budget of around $ 800, 000. The SFYAA was not glamorous.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It ran baseball diamonds and soccer fields at Lakemont Park
- 1:43Speaker 1: and two satellite sites. It sold concessions out of three
- 1:46Speaker 1: cinderblock stands. It negotiated equipment contracts, maintained a modest staff,
- 1:51Speaker 1: and each spring it stretched a new season of hand-painted
- 1:54Speaker 1: sponsor banners along the outfield fences. For most families in
- 1:58Speaker 1: Sutter Falls, It was simply the place where their kids
- 2:00Speaker 1: played on Saturday mornings. Nobody thought much about the money.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Keith Vickers had been part of that world for nine years.
- 2:07Speaker 1: He was 52 years old in the summer of 2011,
- 2:10Speaker 1: living on Carlos Street, in a rented house, driving a
- 2:14Speaker 1: 10-year-old Silverado with a cracked passenger side mirror. He kept
- 2:18Speaker 1: meaning to replace. He coached 11 and under baseball on
- 2:21Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday evenings. Ground balls, relay throws... the particular
- 2:25Speaker 1: patients required when a 10-year-old fields a grounder with his
- 2:28Speaker 1: eyes closed. His title at SFYAA was equipment coordinator, ordering helmets,
- 2:34Speaker 1: tracking jersey inventories, signing off on delivery receipts, the kind
- 2:38Speaker 1: of role that runs entirely on institutional trust and is
- 2:41Speaker 1: almost never audited. Every Wednesday, without exception, Vickers drove to
- 2:45Speaker 1: the north side of the city. His older brother Raymond
- 2:48Speaker 1: lived in a supervised residential facility there. Seven years after
- 2:52Speaker 1: a stroke that had left him needing full-time care, Vickers
- 2:55Speaker 1: brought soup from Hazel's on Birch Connector Road, the same
- 2:59Speaker 1: order most weeks. He stayed a few hours. He drove home.
- 3:02Speaker 1: His ex-wife Pam, when investigators eventually spoke to her, offered
- 3:06Speaker 1: one sentence about Keith Vickers that stayed in the record.
- 3:09Speaker 1: She said he was always slightly more afraid of things
- 3:12Speaker 1: than he let on. It is a sentence that earns
- 3:14Speaker 1: its place in this story. Because sometime in 2003, roughly
- 3:18Speaker 1: 18 months after Keith Vickers joined the SFYAA as a volunteer,
- 3:22Speaker 1: a man named Kent Bauer had a conversation with him.
- 3:25Speaker 1: And after that conversation, Keith Vickers began signing delivery receipts
- 3:29Speaker 1: for equipment that would never arrive at Lakeymont Park. Kent
- 3:32Speaker 1: Bauer was 60 years old and operated Bauer Property Holdings,
- 3:36Speaker 1: six strip centers and a warehouse park on the east
- 3:38Speaker 1: and south sides of Sutter Falls. He was not a
- 3:41Speaker 1: baseball man. He never coached. He never attended a game.
- 3:45Speaker 1: To the SFYAA board, he was simply a generous civic
- 3:48Speaker 1: partner whose company sponsored youth sports and supplied equipment. and
- 3:53Speaker 1: operated the concession stands under a long-standing lease arrangement. Three
- 3:57Speaker 1: separate companies, all pointing back to Bauer, Riverside Concessions, Riverside
- 4:02Speaker 1: Concessions Supply, and a promotions firm called Taft Promotions, run
- 4:07Speaker 1: from a strip mall office on Meridian Court by a
- 4:09Speaker 1: man named Ed Taft. The board saw a philanthropist. Christine
- 4:13Speaker 1: Vogel would eventually see something else entirely. But in the
- 4:16Speaker 1: summer of 2011, Vogel had not yet been assigned the case.
- 4:21Speaker 1: the SFYAA's part-time executive director, Connie Marsh was keeping her
- 4:25Speaker 1: own handwritten ledger of sponsor sales in a binder on
- 4:28Speaker 1: her desk. Meticulous, unmanipulated, maintained without any reason to falsify
- 4:34Speaker 1: a single entry. And Phil Rudd, the board's treasurer and
- 4:37Speaker 1: the loan officer at Sutter Falls Community Bank, had successfully
- 4:41Speaker 1: killed two separate internal audit proposals in 2006 and 2009,
- 4:47Speaker 1: each time reporting the attempt to Kent Bauer within 48 hours.
- 4:51Speaker 1: The operation had been running, in one form or another,
- 4:54Speaker 1: since 2001 at SFYAA alone. Before that, according to later
- 4:59Speaker 1: investigative findings, Bauer had run structurally identical schemes through a
- 5:03Speaker 1: softball league in Creston and the Youth Hockey Association, 60
- 5:06Speaker 1: miles north, both of which wound down without prosecution. By
- 5:10Speaker 1: the night of August 8, 2011, it had been a decade,
- 5:13Speaker 1: and then Keith Vickers drove to Lakemont Park in the dark,
- 5:17Speaker 1: saw a vehicle he did not recognize. A Parks Department
- 5:20Speaker 1: truck left overnight for the morning mowing crew and made
- 5:23Speaker 1: a decision that collapsed everything. The safe went into the
- 5:26Speaker 1: water because Keith Vickers saw headlights he did not expect.
- 5:30Speaker 1: That is the whole hinge. One Parks Department truck left
- 5:33Speaker 1: overnight for a morning mowing crew, and a 52-year-old equipment
- 5:37Speaker 1: coordinator made a choice that undid 10 years of carefully
- 5:40Speaker 1: maintained silence. Christine Vogel was assigned the case, 48 hours
- 5:44Speaker 1: after Gloria Erickson's call. Vogel was 38. a financial crimes
- 5:49Speaker 1: investigator with Sutter Falls PD. And her specific skill was this.
- 5:54Speaker 1: She could look at a spreadsheet until when someone had
- 5:56Speaker 1: worked too hard to make it look normal. The concession
- 5:59Speaker 1: lease agreements were her first stop. She pulled the files
- 6:02Speaker 1: going back to 2002. Three stands, seven years of reported
- 6:07Speaker 1: gross revenue, and the numbers did not move. Year after year,
- 6:11Speaker 1: stand after stand, the reported gross came in between $ 11, 000
- 6:14Speaker 1: and $ 13, 000. A variance of less than 8% across seven
- 6:20Speaker 1: full seasons. That is the first image. Hold it. Outdoor
- 6:24Speaker 1: concession revenue is not flat. It moves with heat, with rain,
- 6:28Speaker 1: with a team that makes the playoffs, and draws 300
- 6:30Speaker 1: extra families on a Saturday afternoon. Revenue that does not
- 6:34Speaker 1: move is revenue that was decided in advance. Someone had
- 6:37Speaker 1: picked a number and written it down, year after year,
- 6:40Speaker 1: without ever forgetting to make it look slightly different. Slightly.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Never too much. Vogel walked to the equipment room next.
- 6:49Speaker 1: She brought a clipboard. She matched every item on the
- 6:51Speaker 1: SFYAA inventory list against the physical stock on the shelves.
- 6:56Speaker 1: The math was off by roughly 30%. Helmets listed. Not present.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Batting cages recorded. Not there. No transfer logs. No retirement records.
- 7:06Speaker 1: No documentation of anything leaving that room, through any official channel.
- 7:10Speaker 1: 30% of the inventory had simply ceased to exist on
- 7:13Speaker 1: paper and while continuing to exist somewhere else. Investigators would
- 7:17Speaker 1: later trace those items to an Eastside storage unit rented
- 7:20Speaker 1: in Keith Vickers' name, paid in cash reimbursed through Riverside's
- 7:24Speaker 1: petty cash account, and then sold in bulk to a
- 7:27Speaker 1: used sporting goods reseller in a neighboring county. Vickers had
- 7:30Speaker 1: signed the delivery receipts himself. Every one of them now
- 7:33Speaker 1: hold two images at once, the flat revenue line and
- 7:36Speaker 1: the missing equipment. Neither one is an accident. Both require
- 7:40Speaker 1: someone inside the organization to look the other way. or
- 7:43Speaker 1: to actively participate, for years on end. The third image
- 7:46Speaker 1: arrives through the sponsorship records. Connie Marsh, the SFYAA's part-time
- 7:51Speaker 1: executive director, kept a handwritten ledger of every sponsor sale
- 7:56Speaker 1: in a binder on her desk. She had no reason
- 7:58Speaker 1: to falsify it. A dental practice on the north side
- 8:01Speaker 1: had paid $ 3, 500 for an outfield banner. Marsh had recorded
- 8:05Speaker 1: exactly that. But the remittance from TAF promotions to SFYAA
- 8:10Speaker 1: showed one $ 200 received. and attached to it a production
- 8:14Speaker 1: invoice billing SFYAA an additional $ 500 for the banner itself.
- 8:19Speaker 1: The dental practice had paid $ 3, 500. The SFYAA netted $ 700.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Taft Promotions, operating out of a strip mall office on
- 8:27Speaker 1: Meridian Court, kept the rest. That model repeated across 23 sponsors,
- 8:32Speaker 1: every year, for eight years. Ed Taft did not build
- 8:35Speaker 1: Taft Promotions. Search warrants executed in early September of 2011
- 8:40Speaker 1: reached the registered agent filings for Riverside Concessions. Riverside Concessions Supply,
- 8:45Speaker 1: and Taft Promotions. All three shared an address. All three,
- 8:49Speaker 1: in practice, ran back to Kent Bauer. Sixty years old,
- 8:53Speaker 1: owner of six strip centers and a warehouse park on
- 8:55Speaker 1: the east side of Sutter Falls. A man who had
- 8:58Speaker 1: never once attended an SFYAA gang. The board had known
- 9:02Speaker 1: him only as a civic partner. The paperwork had always
- 9:05Speaker 1: been clean. And Phil Rudd, the board treasurer, who also
- 9:09Speaker 1: held the SFYAA operating credit line at Sutter Falls Community Bank,
- 9:13Speaker 1: had made certain that no one looked too carefully. In 2006,
- 9:16Speaker 1: a board member proposed an internal audit. Rudd killed it.
- 9:21Speaker 1: He reported the proposal to Bauer within 48 hours. In 2009,
- 9:25Speaker 1: it happened again. Same result. Over seven years, Rudd received
- 9:29Speaker 1: approximately $ 90, 000 in cash through a fictitious maintenance contract on
- 9:33Speaker 1: one of Bauer's strip centers. The safe was the crack
- 9:36Speaker 1: in the wall. Not because of what it contained, not yet,
- 9:40Speaker 1: but because of what it proved the moment Vogel's team
- 9:43Speaker 1: opened it. The foam lining was still faintly dry. The
- 9:47Speaker 1: safe had not been in that water long. Someone had
- 9:50Speaker 1: put it there the night before Erickson found it. The
- 9:52Speaker 1: laminated badge inside belonged to Keith Vickers. His name, his photo,
- 9:57Speaker 1: his title, Concessions Coordinator. sfya the ledger beside it was
- 10:02Speaker 1: handwritten columns of numbers in blue ballpoint at the top
- 10:06Speaker 1: of the page one word reconciled vickers had been keeping
- 10:10Speaker 1: a private record of the scheme that single fact upended
- 10:13Speaker 1: every assumption about where the case was going investigators had
- 10:16Speaker 1: been working inward from the concession anomalies from the missing inventory,
- 10:21Speaker 1: from the sponsorship spread, building toward whoever sat at the center.
- 10:25Speaker 1: The equipment coordinator was a peripheral figure. He signed delivery receipts.
- 10:29Speaker 1: He rented the storage unit. He was a man who
- 10:32Speaker 1: drove a 10-year-old Silverado and coached 11 and under baseball
- 10:35Speaker 1: on Tuesday and Thursday afternoons. He was also the person
- 10:38Speaker 1: who had been quietly writing it all down since 2008.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Vickers had started his ledger three years before the safe
- 10:44Speaker 1: went into the water. His ex-wife Pam had once said
- 10:47Speaker 1: that he was always slightly more afraid of things than
- 10:49Speaker 1: he let on. Whatever the reason, whether it was fear
- 10:52Speaker 1: or guilt or something he could not have named cleanly,
- 10:55Speaker 1: he had kept the numbers, columns that matched nothing in
- 10:59Speaker 1: any official record, because the official records had been built
- 11:02Speaker 1: to match nothing real. When Vogel's team compared Vickers' handwritten
- 11:05Speaker 1: figures against the Riverside remittance logs, the gap materialized precisely.
- 11:10Speaker 1: The ledger was not a confession. It was not addressed
- 11:12Speaker 1: to anyone. But it was accurate. And that accuracy was
- 11:15Speaker 1: what broke the case open. Picture the concession stand at
- 11:18Speaker 1: Lakemont on a Saturday in late May. A parent pays
- 11:21Speaker 1: $ 3 for a hot dog. The register turns over $ 600
- 11:25Speaker 1: that afternoon. Under any honest accounting, that number flows into
- 11:29Speaker 1: a gross revenue report at the end of the season.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Under the Riverside lease, it flows into a reported gross
- 11:35Speaker 1: that never changes because the number was chosen before the
- 11:38Speaker 1: season started. If the only record of that transaction is
- 11:41Speaker 1: the one Riverside produces, there is no contradiction. The stand ran,
- 11:46Speaker 1: the money moved, the lease payment arrived. The scheme held
- 11:50Speaker 1: for a decade because every document in the official record
- 11:52Speaker 1: had been produced by someone inside the scheme. Every document
- 11:56Speaker 1: except one. Connie Marsh's handwritten binder had not been produced
- 12:00Speaker 1: by the scheme. She had no reason to lie. Her
- 12:04Speaker 1: sponsor sold entries reflected what sponsors actually paid because sponsors
- 12:07Speaker 1: had called her directly and she had written it down.
- 12:10Speaker 1: When Vogel laid Marsh's records beside the Taft Promotions remittances,
- 12:14Speaker 1: the spread became visible immediately, not as a theory, But
- 12:17Speaker 1: as arithmetic, the question Vogel carried into the indictment phase
- 12:20Speaker 1: was not whether the fraud had occurred. That was settled.
- 12:23Speaker 1: The question was how far back the structure went and
- 12:26Speaker 1: how many times it had been built before. The answer,
- 12:29Speaker 1: drawn from later investigative findings, reached back past 2001. Bauer
- 12:33Speaker 1: had run structurally identical operations through a softball league in
- 12:37Speaker 1: Creston and a youth hockey association 60 miles north, beginning
- 12:41Speaker 1: in the mid-1990s. Both of those wound down without prosecutions.
- 12:45Speaker 1: No violence, no confrontation, just a quiet end, followed by
- 12:49Speaker 1: a quiet beginning somewhere new. The SFIAA operation was not
- 12:53Speaker 1: an experiment, it was a refinement. And the thing that
- 12:56Speaker 1: finally stopped it was not an audit, not a regulatory review,
- 13:00Speaker 1: not a whistleblower who had gone to a prosecutor. It
- 13:03Speaker 1: was a 52-year-old man who panicked at a Parks Department
- 13:06Speaker 1: truck in the dark, abandoned a safe he should have
- 13:08Speaker 1: destroyed and walked away, not knowing that he had left
- 13:11Speaker 1: behind the one record that could not be explained away.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Vickers had written, reconciled at the top of that ledger.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Whether he meant it as a record of the scheme,
- 13:19Speaker 1: or as something he was trying to make peace with
- 13:21Speaker 1: inside himself, Christine Vogel said she was never entirely sure.
- 13:25Speaker 1: That uncertainty stayed with the case. It stays with it still.
- 13:29Speaker 1: The indictments came down in October of 2011. Kent Bauer
- 13:34Speaker 1: faced 12 counts of wire fraud, three of money laundering,
- 13:37Speaker 1: and one conspiracy count tied specifically to obstructing a non-profit audit.
- 13:41Speaker 1: The audit obstruction charge was precise in a way that
- 13:44Speaker 1: must have felt personal to every board member who had
- 13:46Speaker 1: ever floated the idea of an independent review and been
- 13:49Speaker 1: quietly talked out of it. Phil Rudd was indicted on
- 13:52Speaker 1: four wire fraud counts and one conspiracy count. Sutter Falls
- 13:57Speaker 1: Community Bank terminated his employment before the verdict. He lost
- 14:00Speaker 1: his professional licensing. The institution that had held both SFYAA's
- 14:05Speaker 1: operating credit line and three Riverside LLC accounts in the
- 14:09Speaker 1: same branch, without anyone raising a flag, was not named
- 14:12Speaker 1: as a co-conspirator. Prosecutors could not establish that to the
- 14:15Speaker 1: standard required. That fact sits in the record, unresolved without explanation.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Ed Taft did not go to trial. He pleaded to
- 14:24Speaker 1: a single fraud count in exchange for cooperation and received
- 14:28Speaker 1: two years probation and a restitution order. His testimony helped
- 14:32Speaker 1: lock the timeline on the sponsorship spread, specifically which remittance
- 14:35Speaker 1: figures Bauer had directed and which ones Taft had simply
- 14:39Speaker 1: processed without knowing the full picture. That distinction mattered at sentencing,
- 14:43Speaker 1: if not in moral terms. Bauer was convicted on 10
- 14:46Speaker 1: of the 12 fraud counts, plus both conspiracy-adjacent charges. Sentenced
- 14:51Speaker 1: to 11 years federal, he served eight. Eight years for
- 14:55Speaker 1: an operation that had run, in one form or another,
- 14:58Speaker 1: since the mid-1990s. The arithmetic on that is uncomfortable to
- 15:02Speaker 1: sit with. Keith Vickers was not charged. His cooperation agreement held.
- 15:07Speaker 1: He paid $ 41, 000 in restitution. a figure the court derived
- 15:11Speaker 1: from his direct financial benefit from the equipment ghost billing.
- 15:14Speaker 1: He was permanently barred from fiduciary or contracting roles at non-profits.
- 15:19Speaker 1: The bar was broad and specific at the same time.
- 15:22Speaker 1: It covered exactly the kind of role he had held,
- 15:24Speaker 1: and no other kind. He continued his Wednesday visits to Raymond.
- 15:29Speaker 1: The soup from Hazel's on Birch Connector Road. Nothing in
- 15:32Speaker 1: the public record changed that. SFYAA went into court supervised
- 15:36Speaker 1: ruck structuring in the spring of 2012. The new board
- 15:39Speaker 1: rewrote vendor policy from the ground up. Registration reopened in
- 15:43Speaker 1: August of 2012. Parents brought their children back to Lakemont Park.
- 15:47Speaker 1: The fence lines were mostly bare that first season. The
- 15:50Speaker 1: banners that had funded a decade of quiet theft were gone,
- 15:53Speaker 1: and no replacement sponsors had been locked in yet. For
- 15:56Speaker 1: one summer, the outfield at Lakemont looked the way it
- 15:59Speaker 1: might have looked before Bauer ever walked into a board
- 16:02Speaker 1: meeting and introduced himself as a civic partner. There is
- 16:05Speaker 1: a detail that the record preserves without fully explaining. and
- 16:08Speaker 1: it has stayed in the story from the beginning. Keith
- 16:11Speaker 1: Vickers started keeping his handwritten reconciliation ledger in 2008, three
- 16:15Speaker 1: years before the safe ended up in the retention pond.
- 16:18Speaker 1: He drove a 10-year-old Silverado and coached 11 and under
- 16:21Speaker 1: baseball on Tuesday and Thursday afternoons and brought soup to
- 16:25Speaker 1: his brother every Wednesday. His ex-wife Pam said he was
- 16:28Speaker 1: always slightly more afraid of things than he let on.
- 16:30Speaker 1: He had been inside the scheme for eight years by
- 16:32Speaker 1: the time he started writing those columns down, and he
- 16:35Speaker 1: wrote them down anyway. Christine Vogel, BIEC, Christine Vogel, the
- 16:40Speaker 1: financial crimes investigator who cracked the concession flatness and matched
- 16:43Speaker 1: Marsh's handwritten sponsor ledger against the Taft remittances, said she
- 16:47Speaker 1: was never entirely sure whether Vickers kept the ledger because
- 16:50Speaker 1: he wanted the scheme to be visible, or because he
- 16:53Speaker 1: needed to tell himself he had the numbers under control.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Those are very different things, and yet the ledger existed
- 16:59Speaker 1: either way. The word at the top, written in blue ballpoint,
- 17:03Speaker 1: was reconciled. It is the kind of word that can
- 17:06Speaker 1: mean the accounts are balanced. It can also mean that
- 17:08Speaker 1: a person has made a kind of peace with something
- 17:11Speaker 1: they are not proud of. Vickers never fully clarified which
- 17:14Speaker 1: he meant. Vogel said she stopped expecting him to. What
- 17:18Speaker 1: the ledger did, regardless of why it was written, was
- 17:21Speaker 1: create a document that could not be explained away. Not
- 17:24Speaker 1: by a competent attorney. Not by a sympathetic account of
- 17:27Speaker 1: confused record-keeping. Not by anything. When Bauer's attorneys tried to
- 17:31Speaker 1: argue that the equipment discrepancies were administrative errors, the ledger
- 17:35Speaker 1: was there. Signed. Dated. Labeled. The scheme ran for a
- 17:40Speaker 1: decade at SFYAA because it was designed to be invisible.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Flat numbers that looked like stability. Shell vendors that looked
- 17:48Speaker 1: like civic partnership. A treasurer at the bank who killed
- 17:51Speaker 1: audit proposals before they could take root. An equipment coordinator
- 17:54Speaker 1: whose salary was funded by the very entity billing against
- 17:57Speaker 1: the organization he served. What ended it was not a regulator.
- 18:01Speaker 1: It was a birdwatcher at 7.40 in the morning and
- 18:04Speaker 1: a foam-lined safe with the lid forced back and a
- 18:07Speaker 1: word written in blue ballpoint by a man who was,
- 18:10Speaker 1: by his ex-wife's account, always slightly more afraid of things
- 18:13Speaker 1: than he let on. Gloria Erickson called the non-emergency line
- 18:17Speaker 1: because she did not know what else to do with
- 18:19Speaker 1: what she had found. She was looking for herons. The
- 18:22Speaker 1: fence lines at Lakemont came back the following year. Different sponsors,
- 18:25Speaker 1: different vendors, proper contracts. 4,000 children registered that season. Most
- 18:31Speaker 1: of them never knew what had happened in the years before.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Most of them never knew what had happened in the
- 18:36Speaker 1: years before. Never knew there had been a break at all.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Never knew anything except the ordinary Tuesday when the phone
- 18:41Speaker 1: rang and someone they recognized said their name. This show
- 18:45Speaker 1: is made by Obamiti.