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- 0:00Speaker 1: Despite recent polling showing Americans are not happy with the economy,
- 0:04Speaker 1: this holiday weekend could see a record number of shoppers,
- 0:07Speaker 1: whether it's online or in person. Our scene and chief
- 0:09Speaker 1: data analysts, Harry Ended, is here to run the numbers
- 0:12Speaker 1: for US.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Hi, Harry, Hey there, Jessica. Happy weekend to you. Of course,
- 0:17Speaker 2: this is a holiday weekend. We had Thanksgiving on Thursday,
- 0:21Speaker 2: we had Black Friday yesterday, We're going to have Cyber
- 0:24Speaker 2: Monday coming up in just two days, and so this
- 0:28Speaker 2: is a big season for shopping. Of course, the start
- 0:32Speaker 2: of the holiday shopping season, and we're expecting record numbers
- 0:36Speaker 2: this weekend. What are we talking about? Record shoppers this weekend?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Between Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Who one hundred and
- 0:43Speaker 2: eighty seven million Americans either shopping online or in person.
- 0:48Speaker 2: I must admit I am not necessarily one to be
- 0:51Speaker 2: shopping in person. I like to avoid the crowds. That's
- 0:54Speaker 2: what I like to do. That's why I'm a much
- 0:57Speaker 2: bigger fan of Cyber Monday than i am a Black Friday.
- 1:00Speaker 2: I prefer to spend my weekends at home or maybe
- 1:03Speaker 2: going to a nice little luncheon. Net But this one
- 1:05Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven million is three million more than
- 1:08Speaker 2: we had last year. Again, record numbers shopping this weekend.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Of course, it's not all good news when it comes
- 1:14Speaker 2: to the economy, Jessica, because we're in a bit of
- 1:16Speaker 2: a ca shape right whereby the top of the economic
- 1:19Speaker 2: spectrum seems to be going along as if everything is normal, nice, fantastic,
- 1:23Speaker 2: while those on the lower rung facing tougher times. And
- 1:26Speaker 2: we see that when it comes to shopping this holiday season.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Expected holiday shopping in terms of money versus twenty twenty
- 1:32Speaker 2: four by household income, you can see that this is
- 1:35Speaker 2: a real economic divide in terms of how much folks
- 1:38Speaker 2: are expecting to spend this year versus last year. When
- 1:41Speaker 2: it comes to shopping during the holiday season, if you
- 1:43Speaker 2: make less than fifty thousand dollars in your household income,
- 1:46Speaker 2: the expected amount to be spent down down sixteen percent
- 1:49Speaker 2: versus a year ago. You jump to the middle rung
- 1:52Speaker 2: fifty to one hundred thousand, again down but by less
- 1:55Speaker 2: down six percent. Look at those making at least one
- 1:58Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in terms of their household income, it's
- 2:01Speaker 2: actually up. It's up about five percent, or at least
- 2:04Speaker 2: the expected amount versus last year, again illustrative of this
- 2:08Speaker 2: case shaped economy, whereby the wealthier folks are spending as
- 2:11Speaker 2: if nothing is wrong, spending as if times are good. Well,
- 2:15Speaker 2: those are on the lower rung of the economic spectrum,
- 2:18Speaker 2: not seeing the good times nearly as much, in fact,
- 2:20Speaker 2: seeing some bad times in a number of cases. Of course,
- 2:23Speaker 2: this is not the only sign that the economy is
- 2:26Speaker 2: perhaps not as strong as some might necessarily want. Of course,
- 2:29Speaker 2: this holiday season, if you're going to be buying something,
- 2:32Speaker 2: you might be putting it on your credit card, and
- 2:35Speaker 2: we're seeing some potentially troubling numbers when it comes to
- 2:37Speaker 2: that credit card debt. What are we talking about here, Well,
- 2:40Speaker 2: let's take a look at credit card balance that's ninety
- 2:43Speaker 2: days or more late. Ninety days are more late. We're
- 2:47Speaker 2: talking about the highest percentage since the Great Recession. You know,
- 2:51Speaker 2: you go back to quarter three of twenty twenty two,
- 2:53Speaker 2: three years ago, seven point six percent of all credit
- 2:57Speaker 2: card balances were ninety days or more late late in
- 3:01Speaker 2: terms of their payment. You jump over, now, look at this.
- 3:04Speaker 2: This percentage has really climbed in quarter three of twenty
- 3:07Speaker 2: twenty five, which of course is last quarter we're talking
- 3:09Speaker 2: about twelve point four percent. That is a significant significant rise, Jessica.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I think the question is will this percentage become worse
- 3:19Speaker 2: during the holiday season. We've obviously seen that those who
- 3:23Speaker 2: earn less are cutting back on their spending, expecting to
- 3:26Speaker 2: cut back on their spending. Of course, there are plenty
- 3:28Speaker 2: of wealthier people who also have big credit card debts
- 3:31Speaker 2: as well, so we'll just have to wait and see
- 3:32Speaker 2: what happens. But this, to me is a troublesome sign.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Folks spending money that they simply do not have, and
- 3:38Speaker 2: we're seeing it at a higher percentage since the Great Recession.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll have some better news on the economy going forward,
- 3:44Speaker 2: but for now, Jessica Dean, this is all I got.
- 3:47Speaker 1: For you, and tis the season for holiday shopping. Americans
- 3:50Speaker 1: say they're nervous about the economy, particularly about higher prices
- 3:53Speaker 1: in a week job market, but many retail experts are
- 3:55Speaker 1: forecasting hardy sales growth. MasterCard PEG's is spending growth about
- 4:00Speaker 1: three point six percent for the year. Joining us now,
- 4:02Speaker 1: Heatha Herzog, retail and consumer spending expert at our own firm,
- 4:06Speaker 1: H Squared. Heith a great to have you, Thanks for
- 4:08Speaker 1: being here.
- 4:09Speaker 3: With us.
- 4:09Speaker 1: So what do you think so far about what we're
- 4:12Speaker 1: seeing for this holiday shopping season.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
- 4:17Speaker 4: This is going to be one of those major holiday
- 4:20Speaker 4: shopping seasons. I'm going to break it down for you.
- 4:22Speaker 4: As of now, we're looking at Black Friday numbers of
- 4:25Speaker 4: almost twelve billion dollars.
- 4:27Speaker 3: That's up nine point one percent. This is from Adobe.
- 4:29Speaker 4: Analytics and the also the spending online and insore was
- 4:34Speaker 4: up about four percent. Now, I was checking some of
- 4:37Speaker 4: the real time statistics coming out of the after Pay,
- 4:42Speaker 4: the after.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Pay cash app ecosystem. This is run by block and
- 4:47Speaker 3: per neighborhood.
- 4:48Speaker 4: So New York was doing about fifty four million, Miami
- 4:52Speaker 4: twenty million, Los Angeles was twenty million, and Chicago was
- 4:55Speaker 4: twenty four million.
- 4:57Speaker 3: And it also broke it down in neighborhoods. Little neighborhood
- 5:00Speaker 3: here on.
- 5:00Speaker 4: The Upper West Side did almost a million dollars for
- 5:03Speaker 4: Black Friday. Food and beverage up five point eight percent,
- 5:07Speaker 4: which kind of shows that people aren't just just spending
- 5:10Speaker 4: on clothing and objects, are also going out to eat
- 5:13Speaker 4: and you know, buying those gift cards and also apparel.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Retail was up four percent.
- 5:17Speaker 4: According to this this after pay block ecosystem.
- 5:22Speaker 3: So it's pretty interesting that spending is really there.
- 5:25Speaker 4: People are certainly going out and droves, but we can't
- 5:28Speaker 4: ignore the fact that this economy is bifurcated, that case
- 5:31Speaker 4: shaped economy, that that larger spender, that one that the
- 5:35Speaker 4: the high earner is the one that's really kind of
- 5:38Speaker 4: spending and putting that on the.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Credit card, or the lower income earner.
- 5:42Speaker 4: Are taking more specific steps to spend there being a
- 5:45Speaker 4: little bit more careful.
- 5:46Speaker 1: And so is that how you explain kind of this
- 5:49Speaker 1: dichotomy between all these polls we get back where people
- 5:52Speaker 1: say they're really nervous, they're really pessimistic about the economy,
- 5:55Speaker 1: and then these spending numbers that we're seeing that you're
- 5:58Speaker 1: just listing absolutely.
- 6:00Speaker 4: So I was looking at I know, I'm throwing a
- 6:02Speaker 4: lot of statistics at you, but I was looking at
- 6:04Speaker 4: a report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. Right
- 6:07Speaker 4: it said that a lot of the consumer spending is
- 6:10Speaker 4: being driven by higher income earners putting things on their
- 6:14Speaker 4: credit card. They are really price agnostic. I've been saying
- 6:18Speaker 4: this a lot, that it doesn't matter if the price
- 6:19Speaker 4: of strawberries go up or price of a handbag goes up,
- 6:22Speaker 4: it doesn't matter to them. Meanwhile, the lower income spenders,
- 6:26Speaker 4: they are the ones that are priced sensitive. So when
- 6:29Speaker 4: we see that spending, that drive and spending is from
- 6:31Speaker 4: that upper part of the K, that higher income earner
- 6:35Speaker 4: that's putting it on the credit card, and then they
- 6:37Speaker 4: are paying.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Off that credit card each month.
- 6:40Speaker 4: The lower income spender that's putting it on credit cards,
- 6:44Speaker 4: they're the ones that have to be careful because if
- 6:46Speaker 4: they are not paying that off every single month, those
- 6:49Speaker 4: interest rates are going to bite them.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Yeah, and then what about inflation, How is that factory
- 6:55Speaker 1: into any to any of this?
- 6:58Speaker 4: Well, again, looking at the K shaped economy, right, the
- 7:01Speaker 4: higher income earners not really that's sensitive to inflation, but
- 7:05Speaker 4: the lower income earner is absolutely. And then we were
- 7:08Speaker 4: talking about the credit card. It all kind of comes around, right.
- 7:12Speaker 4: So if the lower income earner is putting things on
- 7:14Speaker 4: credit cards because they want to have a merry Christmas, right,
- 7:17Speaker 4: or a society that likes to shop and likes to celebrate,
- 7:20Speaker 4: if they are not paying that off every month, and
- 7:23Speaker 4: if those inflation rates either stay the same or potentially rise,
- 7:27Speaker 4: that's what's really going to hurt them in the long run,
- 7:30Speaker 4: and that's where it starts to get a little iffy
- 7:32Speaker 4: for them.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and so for people out there who are preparing
- 7:36Speaker 1: to shop, are there any trends anything they should be
- 7:38Speaker 1: aware of, like good notes as they are shopping for
- 7:41Speaker 1: the holiday season.
- 7:43Speaker 4: Well, there's a way to go ahead and track your prices.
- 7:45Speaker 4: So you know, everyone wants to get a discount. But
- 7:48Speaker 4: there's a thing called price dynamism. To price dynamics, right,
- 7:52Speaker 4: so when that means basically, promotions change, prices change. But
- 7:56Speaker 4: one way as a consumer that they can fight back
- 7:58Speaker 4: or we can fight back, is getting a plugin.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Into your browser.
- 8:02Speaker 4: There are little plugins hilarious names, but one is called
- 8:06Speaker 4: Camel Camel Camel.
- 8:07Speaker 3: The other one is called PayPal Honey, and the other
- 8:10Speaker 3: one is called Kipa.
- 8:11Speaker 4: And they can go ahead and track the prices and
- 8:14Speaker 4: offer coupons so that if there's a specific price you
- 8:17Speaker 4: want to pay on a product, it can tell you, well,
- 8:20Speaker 4: the price is dropping or it's increasing, or buy.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Now or wait a bit. So that's one way.
- 8:25Speaker 4: And of course a gentic Ai people really leaning hard
- 8:28Speaker 4: on agentic Ai. Amazon has rufus that's helping people keep
- 8:32Speaker 4: more organized and I think between those two you can keep.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Organized and also keep on top of the pricing.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Some good tips, all right, Heatha Arizon, thanks so much.
- 8:39Speaker 3: We appreciate it.