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Gun Dealers Are Bad - At Least That Is What The Left Thinks · Live to Shoot - Defending our 2nd Amendment Rights

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  Well, welcome to the live Shoot podcast.
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  My name is Jeff Doll and I've been a licensed gun dealer for the last 18 years.
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  In this podcast, we talk about all things related to Second Amendment, as well as anything else going in the World Sports story or anything else I might.
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  Find interesting.
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  So welcome, welcome, welcome.
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  Well, I'm gonna jump into it.
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  I'm gonna jump into a, a article or a report that was done by our friends at every town every town for gun safety.
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  And if you don't know them, they are the leftist.
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  Group that is trying to ban every gun and get rid of the, the Second Amendment.
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  But they did this report, and we're just gonna touch on a few things of it.
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  But basically the, the, the summary of the report are that gun dealers are bad, no new, no good, no news.
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  There, that's nothing new.
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  But this report breaks down and the title of the report is the Supply Side of Violence, how Gun Dealers Fuel Firearm Trafficking.
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  So right here in their executive summary.
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  It says that, gun trafficking is not just a problem of individuals who move guns, guns from legal commerce to illegal use.
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  It's also a problem of gun dealers who supply these guns through their own negligence or complicity.
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  The gun industry is not blameless in the gun trafficking epidemic in this country.
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  It is a key actor, key actor.
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  You see that in the illegal movement of guns and profits substantially from it.
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  So again, as is standard with the left, they are out to blame everybody.
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  But the actual criminal that is committing the offense it is the manufacturers of guns that are the problem.
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  It is the gun dealers.
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  That are a problem.
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  And then it's also those of us legal law abiding citizens that just want to execute our second amendment right, that are the problem and that they need to do everything they can to rid us of either the manufacturers or the gun dealers, or.
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  Those of us are right to own and possess firearms, which is granted to us.
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  It's not granted to us.
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  It's a God-given right, to protect ourselves.
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  The Second Amendment just protects that from the government shall not be infringed, is is the term, okay?
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  The right to bear arms shall not be infringed, and that is what the left is, is, is.
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  Content on trying to do is, and instead of tho focusing their efforts on the criminals that use these guns, they're focusing on everybody else.
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  And if they would just enforce the loss and put these people behind jail instead of doing these, you know, cashless, bail programs reduced sentences, type programs just arrest the people and put'em in jail when they commit the crimes and have sentencing standards around guns that involve crimes, that involve guns that, that are punitive.
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  So in here they says here, the ma, vast majority of guns that end up trafficked begin as part of the inventory of the licensed gun dealer.
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  Huh?
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  That is an odd thing that guns, that a gun at some point in time was sold by a gun dealer.
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  Is that not just the reasonable to believe?
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  So if we go out and we look at car accidents and we pull up this, 19 84 Chevy Camaro that's involved in a car accident.
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  Well, it was the dealer's problem because every car out there at some point originated at a car dealership.
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  Every gun, every new gun originated at some point in time.
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  From a car dealer, from a gun dealer at some point in time in his life.
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  It says the top TR two trafficking methods are straw purchasing and unlicensed dealing, which both involve illegal sales from a licensed gun dealer and an account for more than half of all traffic sales.
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  So here's what they say.
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  It will both involve illegal sales from a licensed gun dealer.
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  So if I.
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  Sell a gun or transfer a gun since I don't actually sell, sell'em to somebody that was not a prohibitive person, passed the background checks, maybe even had a license to carry.
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  If they then go and, and give that gun to somebody else, or they sell it to somebody else that uses it in a crime.
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  I am the one that is at fault for that.
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  And what they're assuming is that they're involved in these processes.
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  A dealer.
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  While they make it seem very obvious, what a straw that dealers should be capturing all straw purchases or identifying everybody that's potentially quote unquote operating as an unlicensed dealer, which the A TF can't even define.
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  It's a term that is as is basically if we, we'll know it when we see it, that if you're selling, if you're buying guns and selling them and you're an unlicensed dealer, we're gonna know it when we we see it.
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  But we have no way to do.
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  To to determine that.
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  So if somebody comes in here and buys three guns, they're potentially off operating as an unlicensed dealer, and it's my responsibility to identify that.
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  So here they give an example in this report.
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  In 20 22, 6, individuals launched a firearm trafficking operation that moved guns from Mississippi to Chicago, and just five transactions between April 22, 22 and July, 2022.
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  One of these individuals purchased 23 nearly identical Glocks from a single dealer, Renegade Firearms in Greenville, Mississippi.
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  They aren't casual purchases for personal use.
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  These were textbook red flags for traffic, as should have been obvious to renegade Really.
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  We don't know what the situation is.
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  Okay?
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  I have customers that come here all the time and are buying lots of guns.
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  There is multiple reasons why somebody might buy multiple types of, of very similar guns, and that's either they're gifting them to people, they want all their children to have the same one.
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  They like'em.
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  Okay.
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  Guns are investments.
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  They do have value, and you can't actually legally buy a gun and then resell it.
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  Okay.
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  The guns were trafficked north into Chicago where they fueled violent crime.
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  All told this operation, operation trafficking more than 60 firearms to the Chicago area, many of which were recovered with.
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  Blah, blah, blah.
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  It says the six individuals were ultimately convicted on federal charges related to gun trafficking and sentencing to years in prison.
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  But Renegade Firearms faced no consequences for its role in supplying these traffickers and kept all profits from these illegal sales.
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  The sales themselves were not illegal.
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  Okay.
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  Because obviously nothing happened to him.
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  There's probably very, you know, it's not as, they're trying to make it seem like it should have been obvious, but there's a lot of situations where this could not have been obvious.
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  Again, in their report they say according to a TF trace data, 96% of GR gun crime guns that were recovered and are and traced, originated from a purchase from a licensed gun dealer.
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  Yeah, surprising.
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  Where else would they come from?
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  Every gun's got a dealer.
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  So and they say according to their analysis of a TF Trace data of crime, guns recovered between 2019 and 2023, an average of 10.3% of crime guns were purchased between two and three years prior to recovery in a crime.
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  And 14.4% were purchased one or two years prior and esta and an astonishing 2320 5% were purchased from a dealer just one year before being recovered in crimes.
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  So again.
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  A fourth of them are per, are occur within a a year.
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  But the 75% of the guns recovered were more than a year old from the time they were originally purchased from that dealer.
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  But that dealer's the one that's to blame.
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  We have no idea where that gun actually ended up and how it got there.
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  And just for everybody's education.
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  If you're not aware, this is the way tracing works.
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  So if a gun is found at a crime much, you know in contrary to what you see on television there are no there's not a gun registry out there that's a federal gun registry.
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  Now, there are some of these leftist state cities that require certain other types of permitting before you can purchase a firearm.
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  And so that that you go in.
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  And so if you're in Chicago, you may have to get a permit.
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  So they, they register and they trace track where that gun is.
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  And in, and others, you know, New York, you know, dc, those types of places.
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  And coincidentally, as, as you see, these places that make it very difficult to get a firearm are the ones with the highest crime rates, right.
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  So again, I don't think there's even a gun store.
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  I heard once there's like not even a gun store in the city limits of Chicago and you see that there are every weekend, multiple homicides happening from firearms.
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  So those people got their guns somehow and they didn't go to the local gun dealer to get'em because there isn't one.
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  Right.
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  But anyway, when a gun is found at a far, at a, at a a crime, which in a lot, you know, you think about it, how often, you know, are guns actually found at crimes?
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  Right.
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  Well, anyway.
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  They then have to first place they, so if it's a Smith and Wesson, MMP five, mmp nine they first have to go to Smith and Wesson and they ask Smith and Wesson.
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  Here's a Smith and Wesson, MMP nine.
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  Here's the serial number.
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  Tell us what happened to it, where did it go?
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  And they will say we we sent that to x, y, Z wholesaler.
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  So then the contact x, y, Z wholesaler and X, y, Z wholesaler says we sent that to bud's guns in Kentucky.
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  So then they call ex bud's guns, and they say.
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  Bud's guns.
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  Where did you do that?
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  Well, we shipped that to live to shoot in, in, in Texas.
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  So then they call me and they say, what did you do with it?
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  And I go pull out my 44 73 of whoever purchased that gun and I send it to'em.
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  Okay, so now.
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  They've identified the first person that actually possessed that gun, that g depending on, and, and typically when I get a firearm trace, you know, this one said, it, it, it coincides with these statistics.
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  Typically, I transferred that gun probably five years.
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  Previous.
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  So now whatever information's on that 44 73 is probably bad information.
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  They probably since moved on.
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  So they, they send that on and then they have to try and see if they can find, you know, what the, the ultimate destination of that gun was.
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  That gun may have gone through two or three hands, and one of the persons probably sold it to somebody and didn't keep the information who they sold it to.
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  So.
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  Finding, you know, tracing these guns from their source to the ultimate crime is very, very difficult.
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  They in these stats here, I went and looked and they, in one of their footnotes, I clicked on it in terms of looking at it, and I don't have it here in front of me.
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  But it went then and looked at, on this trace data, how many people were, that purchased this, were the ultimate, the original buyer of that gun.
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  And it was less than 10% of those people were the original buyer.
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  90% of them were not the first person that, that, that person that that gun was transferred to.
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  So again, how can you hold the gun dealer responsible for guns that they sold that ended up at crimes, but the people that bought'em weren't.
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  They've accelerated a few choice cases here of, of.
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  Guns that went from the dealer to somebody that ultimately ended up with somebody's hands.
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  But the people that actually purchased those did not commit the, the, the, the final crime in that.
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  So again, holding gun dealers is responsible for this.
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  Is is just another place that they're looking to try and, and infringe upon our, our, our second amendment rights.
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  They have in here.
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  You know what they, they want to do?
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  They wanna req, put more burdens on gun dealers.
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  They wanna require'em to get state licenses.
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  They want them to be required to have more enhanced security.
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  They want mandate that these back, that gun dealers continue to have regular background checks.
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  They wanna then here's the kicker.
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  They want require gun dealers to send all their records.
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  To the states, thus creating that database registry, that gun registry, right?
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  And they wanna require gun dealers to provide more informa, provide information to gun buyers at their point of sale and blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  But again, it's not the ultimate criminal's fault.
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  And again, the other thing I looked up to was how many guns are reported stolen.
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  Because that's their problem.
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  And, and it, it's rough, but of, of, because there's not a good you know, collection of that data.
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  But, the number ranged each year.
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  These are just the ones that are reported, and I would imagine a good number of guns that are stolen aren't even reported as being stolen.
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  But it is probably anywhere between 250,000 to 350,000 guns per year.
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  Are stolen, which is where the criminals are getting their guns, not from the gun dealers.
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  Again, just more bogus information from our friends at every town on how everybody, but the criminal is the bad guy.
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