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- 0:06Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
- 0:08Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network at Tiger's Podcast. I'm here Steckley
- 0:12Speaker 1: with me as always a man who I had one
- 0:15Speaker 1: hundred of them, like my chances against the Gorilla. He
- 0:18Speaker 1: is Cody Staveds.
- 0:19Speaker 2: How you doing good, Tarn. A nice little win for
- 0:24Speaker 2: the Tigers today, right?
- 0:26Speaker 3: I about the Hobby bayas Grand Slam a Colt Keith Homer.
- 0:30Speaker 3: My bold prediction it wouldn't take until May twenty fourth
- 0:33Speaker 3: for Colt to Homer this year.
- 0:35Speaker 2: It did take until you.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Know, April thirtieth, but hey, he got it out of
- 0:40Speaker 3: the way and it was good and kind of important
- 0:43Speaker 3: to see. And the Tigers avoid the sweep from the Astros.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Now you got the Angels, now you got the Rockies.
- 0:48Speaker 3: You want to improve that road record. You have a
- 0:50Speaker 3: few games going coming up that should give you a
- 0:53Speaker 3: chance to do it.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, today was was oddly a like a
- 1:01Speaker 1: sets of urgency A little bit you could tell like
- 1:03Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot of fooling around.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:06Speaker 1: You obviously you get down what's one pitch in? Right?
- 1:10Speaker 1: You get down one pitch in and you get the
- 1:13Speaker 1: lead back quickly with that cold Keith monster shot, by
- 1:16Speaker 1: the way, not just any old home run that like
- 1:18Speaker 1: you said, that was good to see. And then and
- 1:20Speaker 1: and you know, kind of Hobby doing Hobby. That's a
- 1:22Speaker 1: ball off the plate, that's that's a pitch that you
- 1:26Speaker 1: know in triple A. It's not resulting in a home
- 1:29Speaker 1: run a whole lot, you know, but you you give
- 1:32Speaker 1: Hobby an inch and he takes a mile. Sometimes sometimes
- 1:35Speaker 1: you give him an inch and he swings for a mile.
- 1:37Speaker 1: But right now it's all positive for Hobby. He's a
- 1:39Speaker 1: basically a three hundred. We're gonna talk about him a
- 1:41Speaker 1: little bit later because I think there's a larger picture
- 1:44Speaker 1: thing with with Hobby that nobody's talking about that I
- 1:48Speaker 1: think is worth just kind of like, you know, throwing
- 1:50Speaker 1: out there, thrown out there a little bit. Yeah, that's
- 1:53Speaker 1: a good tease right there. So but yeah, seven four
- 1:55Speaker 1: victory today Wednesday goes you feel good going to Los
- 2:00Speaker 1: Angeles Angels of Anaheim. And and I thought I thought
- 2:06Speaker 1: today like he kind of needed to get like a
- 2:12Speaker 1: different dose of an experience. So what I mean by
- 2:14Speaker 1: that is you were down early, like I said, earlier,
- 2:17Speaker 1: and then you take the lead and then you it's
- 2:19Speaker 1: you fending them off, as opposed to what happened on Tuesday,
- 2:22Speaker 1: where you're you're down the majority of the game and
- 2:25Speaker 1: then you kind of make this late little comeback. This
- 2:28Speaker 1: was by no means a you know, seamless victory that
- 2:32Speaker 1: did get dicey there for a little bit. Tommy Ganley
- 2:34Speaker 1: comes in, U shuts the door down. But you know,
- 2:38Speaker 1: why don't we just start with Jackson Joe because he
- 2:40Speaker 1: was our FanDuel player spotlight, and and Jackson Joe continues
- 2:44Speaker 1: to kind of be a guy that is figuring out.
- 2:49Speaker 1: And I almost and I don't know him personally, I
- 2:52Speaker 1: don't know anything about his like personality or anything like that,
- 2:57Speaker 1: but I almost don't want him out there with a
- 3:01Speaker 1: big lead. It was in his in his young career,
- 3:05Speaker 1: and his young career, it's already happened twice where he's
- 3:07Speaker 1: early on gotten a big lead his first start of
- 3:10Speaker 1: the season, and this just this just happened there. Because
- 3:13Speaker 1: I think there's a natural human element to being up
- 3:18Speaker 1: seven to one, and and I think, and especially on
- 3:22Speaker 1: the road, like the crowds out of it, there's not
- 3:24Speaker 1: there's not like as much on every pitch and I
- 3:29Speaker 1: and both those happened on the road. By the way,
- 3:31Speaker 1: I just kind of want to see him like kind
- 3:33Speaker 1: of pitch in tighter situations as much as possible early on,
- 3:37Speaker 1: because I think that's gonna pay off more down the line.
- 3:42Speaker 1: And we talked, we talked about him, you know, we're
- 3:44Speaker 1: all thinking about stuff with him down the line yesterday
- 3:47Speaker 1: that's gonna pay off for him down the line a
- 3:49Speaker 1: little bit more than you know get you know, trying
- 3:53Speaker 1: to just kind of starve off any desperate attempts during
- 3:56Speaker 1: blowouts or whatever where there's just so much time and
- 3:59Speaker 1: then you and then the calculation with the bullpen is
- 4:02Speaker 1: ever changing because it's like do we really want to
- 4:04Speaker 1: use these arms? Oh now, now we have to start
- 4:07Speaker 1: using these arms. And I just I want to see
- 4:10Speaker 1: him pitch in tighter games, if that makes sense. This
- 4:12Speaker 1: is like when when you're still in April and now May.
- 4:15Speaker 1: That's just a theory I have.
- 4:18Speaker 2: I just want to see him pitch in general.
- 4:20Speaker 3: I mean, I get why the Tigers did this, you know,
- 4:23Speaker 3: pushing him back, but twelve days between starts. Today he
- 4:26Speaker 3: looked to me like a guy who hadn't thrown in
- 4:29Speaker 3: twelve days.
- 4:30Speaker 2: He was just a little bit rusty.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I think four walks that we're kind of the killer
- 4:34Speaker 3: for his day. He didn't use the curveball at all,
- 4:37Speaker 3: or he threw one, which I guess was part of
- 4:40Speaker 3: the game plan. Heston's got a pretty right handed lineup,
- 4:43Speaker 3: but that's still kind of waiting for that pitch to
- 4:45Speaker 3: click that was supposed to be the big thing for
- 4:48Speaker 3: him hasn't quite happened yet. I didn't have any other
- 4:52Speaker 3: strong feelings about his outing. It was fine and stuff
- 4:55Speaker 3: was good at times. He threw a lot of sliders,
- 4:58Speaker 3: but the execution was far from per and I think
- 5:00Speaker 3: it's because he looked a little bit rusty.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yeah, again, he looks rusty and then you have a
- 5:04Speaker 1: big outing and again like there's just like I wanted
- 5:09Speaker 1: to see him kind of pitch under more pressure when
- 5:12Speaker 1: you haven't pitched in twelve days, I guess is a
- 5:14Speaker 1: way to put it back.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Also, the offense shouldn't score runs or what Well.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do it for riees Olsen, who's got
- 5:21Speaker 1: a career with the Tigers having great run support, you know,
- 5:24Speaker 1: like Jackson's cost spoiled if you think about it. Uh
- 5:28Speaker 1: so so Yeah, I mean I understand you got to
- 5:31Speaker 1: go out there and you got to execute either way.
- 5:33Speaker 1: But in terms of what I'm looking for for big things,
- 5:35Speaker 1: being that AT's April thirtieth, big things down the line,
- 5:37Speaker 1: I want him in as many tight situations as possible.
- 5:40Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. So, yeah, go ahead and score
- 5:42Speaker 1: the runs, but you know, I just want to see
- 5:46Speaker 1: Jackson in those specific type of situations, especially when there's
- 5:50Speaker 1: we're in the midst or we just finished like some
- 5:53Speaker 1: pitching rotation reconfiguration, and now we're going and we will
- 5:59Speaker 1: have some more moving forward, and we'll talk about that.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Uh here in a little bit. Uh, we're gonna talk
- 6:05Speaker 1: about the hitting side, because you don't score seven runs
- 6:08Speaker 1: without having some good hitting. After a word from our sponsors.
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- 6:46Speaker 1: with this, Cody, what was the more significant first not
- 6:49Speaker 1: for what it did for the game, But in terms
- 6:51Speaker 1: of what you're liking to see and what and what
- 6:54Speaker 1: you hope if you're the Tigers, which you hope it
- 6:56Speaker 1: turns into better first home run of the season, the
- 7:00Speaker 1: Bias or the Colt, what do you think's what's.
- 7:03Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Cold Keith because he crushed the ball.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Like you said, it was a pull side shot in
- 7:08Speaker 3: the air. That's the thing. The best version of Cold
- 7:11Speaker 3: Keith needs to do more for as well as Hobby
- 7:14Speaker 3: Buyas has been playing. And look, the homer counts all
- 7:17Speaker 3: the same as a Grand Slam. It was awesome. I
- 7:20Speaker 3: had a forty degree launch angle. It was only a
- 7:22Speaker 3: homer in four major league parks. He's really thinking the
- 7:25Speaker 3: Crawford boxes. There's still kind of a question like how
- 7:28Speaker 3: much power can Hobby generate? In a way, good to
- 7:33Speaker 3: see him get on the board with the homer, but
- 7:35Speaker 3: in a way, it's like that ball barely got out,
- 7:38Speaker 3: you know, one of the shortest left fields in baseball.
- 7:40Speaker 3: It doesn't really answer the question as much as Cold
- 7:43Speaker 3: Keith's shot does. Obviously being able to replicate it is
- 7:47Speaker 3: the big thing here.
- 7:48Speaker 2: But I think col Keith needed that.
- 7:51Speaker 3: I think everyone needed to see that from cold Keith
- 7:54Speaker 3: and just the fashion, you know, the no doubt shot,
- 7:57Speaker 3: and I think that was I just think it stood
- 8:00Speaker 3: out to me, you know, it seems like a reminder
- 8:02Speaker 3: of what he can do.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would agree with that. You're because
- 8:07Speaker 1: you're coming in coming into the season and what we're
- 8:11Speaker 1: seeing just in general is a lot different. But regardless
- 8:14Speaker 1: of what we've experienced this season and what the expectations
- 8:17Speaker 1: were to try to get the best version out of
- 8:19Speaker 1: this team. Both involved Colt Keith's bat working well right
- 8:24Speaker 1: and and and and still is kind of a guy surprisingly,
- 8:29Speaker 1: he's kind of a guy without like out of place
- 8:33Speaker 1: with with the with the way that he had been
- 8:36Speaker 1: hitting or lack thereof, and the not really having a
- 8:40Speaker 1: true position because Laborer's obviously at second Spencer you gotta
- 8:43Speaker 1: play at first base because he can't play anything else,
- 8:46Speaker 1: and you can't really get away with, in my opinion,
- 8:49Speaker 1: the Colt Keith that we had been seeing as you're
- 8:53Speaker 1: pretty regular DH, Like, I just so like that that's
- 8:59Speaker 1: something that you hope kind of turned into something. And
- 9:02Speaker 1: you said Anaheim and then after that Colorado, those are
- 9:05Speaker 1: two of the worst pitching teams in baseball. Anaheim has
- 9:10Speaker 1: a four point eight eight e RA as a team
- 9:13Speaker 1: and Colorado has a five point three ERA as a team.
- 9:16Speaker 1: So you're hoping that this is kind of the start
- 9:18Speaker 1: of something. Maybe it's I know it's still technically April
- 9:22Speaker 1: when this happened, but maybe it's just like, all right,
- 9:24Speaker 1: he got his month slump kind of like out the
- 9:28Speaker 1: way a little bit, and then once the calendar turns
- 9:30Speaker 1: to May, he starts to figure a couple things out.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You know who has figured some things out, or at
- 9:38Speaker 1: least when it comes to playing in Houston, is one
- 9:41Speaker 1: Riley Green. And so, like, you know, it's not a
- 9:44Speaker 1: whole lot of analysis to be had other than Riley
- 9:47Speaker 1: Green is on. He's on. He's hot seven for twelve
- 9:50Speaker 1: in this series. Cody obviously with the two home run
- 9:53Speaker 1: game on Monday, and I mentioned the two home run game.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Obviously we've talked about it a little bit already, but
- 10:00Speaker 1: today was kind of like it was it was him
- 10:04Speaker 1: being like, we got this full version, full spectrum version
- 10:08Speaker 1: of Riley Green as a hitter in this series. And
- 10:10Speaker 1: I and that's and that's what I am most encouraged
- 10:14Speaker 1: by because we know that there's contact skills there. We
- 10:19Speaker 1: know that there's power skills there, and we know that
- 10:22Speaker 1: there's like kind of the ability like the ability to
- 10:27Speaker 1: the hit ability is there right just overall you combine it,
- 10:30Speaker 1: and we got that this week. I would have been
- 10:33Speaker 1: a little bit more concerned if he was just all
- 10:36Speaker 1: or nothing power to strike out. I would have been
- 10:38Speaker 1: concerned if we still didn't see a whole lot of
- 10:41Speaker 1: power that we hadn't been seeing. This is the first
- 10:44Speaker 1: time since the very beginning of the year that he
- 10:46Speaker 1: had seven hits in a three game span. So it's
- 10:48Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about a month basically the beginning
- 10:51Speaker 1: of the year, beginning of the season, like you know,
- 10:53Speaker 1: we're talking about a month where he hadn't really been
- 10:55Speaker 1: able to string together and we got the full Riley
- 10:57Speaker 1: Green spectrum there and and that's and that's something that
- 11:01Speaker 1: I was very glad to see.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Yeah, just looked like he was staying on the ball
- 11:05Speaker 3: better can he keeping that front shoulder in, keeping the
- 11:07Speaker 3: head down on the baseball, and as a result, he
- 11:10Speaker 3: was driving it a little bit. We're still at a
- 11:12Speaker 3: point in the year where you can change the scoreboard
- 11:15Speaker 3: numbers pretty quickly. For as brutal as a lot of
- 11:18Speaker 3: April felt a few good games. Riley's now hitting I
- 11:21Speaker 3: think two sixty one. The ops is back up over
- 11:24Speaker 3: seven point fifty, and you kind of have a feeling
- 11:26Speaker 3: this could be the start of a little bit of
- 11:30Speaker 3: a prolonged tear. He's certainly capable of going on. Obviously
- 11:34Speaker 3: huge for this team. We talked about them being put
- 11:37Speaker 3: to the test a little bit. A great way to
- 11:40Speaker 3: ace that test is to get Riley Green going. I
- 11:43Speaker 3: don't have a tonative analysis beyond that. I was waiting
- 11:47Speaker 3: for this to happen, and now here it is.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and all of this stuff that we've talked
- 11:54Speaker 1: about over the past month or whatever, we can turn
- 11:58Speaker 1: the page and say that we have now witnessed the
- 12:02Speaker 1: greatest April. And I'm including the March games because they
- 12:07Speaker 1: it's not really any point to talking about their March record, right,
- 12:11Speaker 1: like the greatest April of the aj Hinch era. That
- 12:14Speaker 1: so they're nineteen and twelve. They scored one hundred and
- 12:17Speaker 1: forty five runs. That's by far better than any output
- 12:22Speaker 1: that aj Hinch Tiger team had had done. There's some
- 12:28Speaker 1: you know, eight to nineteen in his first year. Next
- 12:31Speaker 1: year seven and thirteen, like sixty four runs in the
- 12:35Speaker 1: month of April and twenty twenty two, like just like
- 12:37Speaker 1: some bad, bad, not great watching baseball and now and
- 12:44Speaker 1: I kind of bring that up because it's in the
- 12:47Speaker 1: grand team of things, like relatively meaningless. But at the
- 12:51Speaker 1: same time, I feel like we now have the perfect encapsulation,
- 12:55Speaker 1: like the full five finger imprint of AJ Hinch on
- 13:01Speaker 1: this team, where the team is playing exactly all these
- 13:04Speaker 1: things that we had heard for years. We were wondering
- 13:07Speaker 1: whether that they would Hey, when you got better, you're
- 13:10Speaker 1: still going to do it. Be how s word is it?
- 13:14Speaker 1: And now we have all those coaching points working in
- 13:18Speaker 1: unison with an AJ Hinch team that has one of
- 13:21Speaker 1: the best records in the American League going into the
- 13:24Speaker 1: second month of the season. So as we go into May,
- 13:27Speaker 1: I just think it's worth noting.
- 13:29Speaker 3: Do you know kan the last time the Detroit Tigers
- 13:31Speaker 3: won eighteen games in the month.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Of April, I'll say two thousand and.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Twelve, nineteen eighty four. Oh, anything happened, pretty good year.
- 13:45Speaker 2: It was a nice year for the ball club. Yeah,
- 13:48Speaker 2: you said.
- 13:49Speaker 3: Five finger imprints, so you know, just one finger each
- 13:52Speaker 3: year AJ was able to lay on this team. No,
- 13:56Speaker 3: it's a great April, it's encouraging, it'll probably be good
- 13:59Speaker 3: for attendance at the ballpark all summer. We've talked about it.
- 14:04Speaker 3: I'm the reason I'm probably more encouraged than ever. The
- 14:07Speaker 3: reason this team has pretty quickly kind of won me
- 14:10Speaker 3: over is the fact this isn't even their football club,
- 14:14Speaker 3: Like they're gonna get some of their best players back. Obviously,
- 14:18Speaker 3: that comes to the caveat like will Riley Green stay healthy?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Will Cary Carboner stay healthy? Does your pitching stay healthy
- 14:24Speaker 3: when you get Meadows Beerling back? But the fact you've
- 14:27Speaker 3: done this and played this well with Hobby Bayaz in
- 14:30Speaker 3: center field, with Zach McKinstry playing every single day, playing
- 14:34Speaker 3: a ton against left handers, it's just really impressive. I'm
- 14:39Speaker 3: sure there will be a loll at some point this year,
- 14:42Speaker 3: but big picture, you can still see this kind of
- 14:47Speaker 3: going up as the year goes along.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and and baseball has a way of kind of
- 14:52Speaker 1: making you forget about some of the things like how
- 14:54Speaker 1: shorthanded they are. And I'll be honest, like I was
- 14:56Speaker 1: reading Ken the Rosenthal's Calumn General Baseball Call, big part
- 15:01Speaker 1: about that in the about the Tigers, and I had
- 15:04Speaker 1: just kind of like, I just forgot. I feel ashamed
- 15:08Speaker 1: to admit this. I kind of forgot about Jake Rogers,
- 15:12Speaker 1: like like.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I never thought I would say that.
- 15:15Speaker 3: But Dingler has stepped in looked completely capable, and Thomas
- 15:19Speaker 3: Nido is like we've talked about it before. He's like, allegitate,
- 15:21Speaker 3: backup Jake in a way hasn't really been missed at
- 15:26Speaker 3: least on the field that much, which is kind of
- 15:28Speaker 3: a testament to Dylan Dingler and and a testament to
- 15:31Speaker 3: the Tiger's death.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Yeah. So like there's there's at various points three to
- 15:37Speaker 1: four like starters that you're that you're out with with
- 15:40Speaker 1: without I should say, And here you are, nineteen and
- 15:44Speaker 1: twelve going into May, and you hope, you hope that
- 15:47Speaker 1: it becomes like a really good road trip because as
- 15:50Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday, all these road trips have been
- 15:53Speaker 1: against playoff teams or playoff like fringe teams. Now you
- 15:59Speaker 1: go to Anheim, which was a nice story for a second,
- 16:01Speaker 1: but they and I hope Mike Trout's okay. I don't
- 16:03Speaker 1: know the update I saw he left the game today.
- 16:09Speaker 1: That means okay, so I hope he's okay, obviously for
- 16:11Speaker 1: a million reasons. Uh. And then Colorado is you know,
- 16:16Speaker 1: kind of speaks for itself. There don't nothing else needs
- 16:19Speaker 1: to be said about that. So you hope that that
- 16:20Speaker 1: wraps up pretty pretty well for the Tigers. Now we
- 16:25Speaker 1: are going to talk about a roster configuration element that
- 16:29Speaker 1: I just want to throw out there. It's just a
- 16:31Speaker 1: theory that I want to throw out there. No one
- 16:33Speaker 1: else is talking about it. I just want to see
- 16:35Speaker 1: what Cody thinks about it. But first, a word from
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- 17:41Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, Cody Hove here bye. I
- 17:45Speaker 1: have planned on talking about this before he hit the
- 17:48Speaker 1: Grand Slam today and is the headliner of the wind.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Are we sure his shortstop days are done? Because the
- 18:01Speaker 1: Tray Sweney piece of this the what's the calling card
- 18:07Speaker 1: of having Tray Sweeney as your every day shortstop right now?
- 18:12Speaker 2: Dairy defense?
- 18:13Speaker 1: In theory defense, he is in the thirty two percent
- 18:18Speaker 1: tile in range is according to Baseball Savants, nineteen percent
- 18:23Speaker 1: tile in arm strength. His fielding run value is in
- 18:27Speaker 1: the forty one percentile. And as I pull up his
- 18:32Speaker 1: fielding stats here in a second, uh, it's it's not
- 18:39Speaker 1: it's not something that somebody who is hitting what's he
- 18:43Speaker 1: hitting right now? It's not Parker Meadow's level defense at shortstop.
- 18:51Speaker 1: So we we we had kind of because of all
- 18:55Speaker 1: these other elements that have been going on. We was like,
- 18:57Speaker 1: you know, hobby and center Hobby at their base by
- 19:00Speaker 1: the way out, but at above average for Javier at
- 19:03Speaker 1: third bases, two one in center field, and a very
- 19:06Speaker 1: obviously short time time frame catch percentage expectancy plus six
- 19:12Speaker 1: above expectancy, so plus six percent for Javier in center field.
- 19:17Speaker 1: So just putting that out there too. So there's range,
- 19:20Speaker 1: there's instincts blab while we've talked about it, he might
- 19:23Speaker 1: be needed at shortstop because you can't right now. You
- 19:27Speaker 1: obviously got to pick your spots of your aj just like
- 19:29Speaker 1: you do for basically every player not not in the
- 19:32Speaker 1: top three of your of your hitting hierarchy. But right
- 19:34Speaker 1: now I'm finding it hard to just have to put
- 19:39Speaker 1: swingy in the lineup when Javier is hitting this way
- 19:42Speaker 1: and if you get veering back, you don't. Everyone assumes
- 19:48Speaker 1: he's gonna maybe go to third base right now. I
- 19:50Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
- 19:52Speaker 2: I don't think.
- 19:52Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to play much third base
- 19:55Speaker 3: because McKinstry's gonna go back some third.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Base'll we'll see if Jase Young stays up.
- 20:00Speaker 3: I think these are you know, people keep asking me
- 20:03Speaker 3: what happens when Beerling gets back, or even Manuel Margo
- 20:06Speaker 3: might be the first guy back if the Tigers do
- 20:08Speaker 3: choose to activate him and put him on the big
- 20:10Speaker 3: league roster.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Jahn is the guy who could go down.
- 20:14Speaker 3: He's hitting blow two hundred, although he's still taking walks
- 20:17Speaker 3: three sixty six OBP, and he's above one hundred WRC
- 20:20Speaker 3: plus and you kind of know he's just scratching the
- 20:23Speaker 3: surface of what he can do. So I don't know
- 20:25Speaker 3: that I love that Jase is a guy who you
- 20:27Speaker 3: go down. I don't think the Tigers are going to
- 20:30Speaker 3: be looking to pull the plug on Tray Sweeney. But
- 20:33Speaker 3: you know, when you get two or three of these
- 20:36Speaker 3: guys back, it could be a conversation. Right now, Javier
- 20:39Speaker 3: is playing well, and I think at the very least
- 20:43Speaker 3: you're gonna want to keep him active, engaged a little
- 20:46Speaker 3: more of a time share at shortstop between Hobby and
- 20:48Speaker 3: Sweeney certainly seems like an option to me. Labor is
- 20:54Speaker 3: going to be playing second base most days. I don't
- 20:56Speaker 3: think we're gonna see Abby there thirds within the realm
- 20:59Speaker 3: of possibility may be center still, but like if his
- 21:02Speaker 3: bad is still producing to some degree, no, I think
- 21:05Speaker 3: we can see Hobby a lot at at shortstop.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Yeah, again, something that we had kind of like written
- 21:13Speaker 1: off a little bit.
- 21:14Speaker 2: The majority.
- 21:14Speaker 3: And the weird thing Keran is they probably can't do
- 21:17Speaker 3: like a traditional platoon because Tree Sweeney's hitting very poorly
- 21:21Speaker 3: against right handed pitching and he's hitting well against left
- 21:24Speaker 3: handed pitching. So I don't know exactly how that would work.
- 21:27Speaker 3: There are some strange roster wrinkles coming up. I'm not
- 21:32Speaker 3: even sure that Tigers know exactly what the plan of
- 21:34Speaker 3: action is going to be until they get there.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Yeah, which hopefully this is kind of the month that
- 21:41Speaker 1: everybody kind of had pencils. Then you start to get
- 21:43Speaker 1: you know, Vera Lain, you know, hopefully you get the
- 21:45Speaker 1: medical update that he's gonna start some rehab assignments and
- 21:49Speaker 1: and he's not the only one that we'll talk about,
- 21:51Speaker 1: but it's it's it's something, it's something that ties in.
- 21:55Speaker 1: We asked for a couple of questions, Thank you guys
- 21:57Speaker 1: for sending it in questions, one of them addressed right here,
- 22:00Speaker 1: because we kind of already have when er Lan returns
- 22:03Speaker 1: as automatic that young is sent down or is it
- 22:05Speaker 1: possible based on hobbies doing Sweeney or Keith will be
- 22:08Speaker 1: sent down. And and what about the Manuel Margo piece
- 22:13Speaker 1: of this? Uh, I don't see the Keith element. Well,
- 22:17Speaker 1: I still don't see. Hopefully, like I said, he gets
- 22:20Speaker 1: he gets going with the bat. But the Sweeney thing
- 22:23Speaker 1: I think is up there is anything. I continue to
- 22:27Speaker 1: be impressed based on expectations with Young in the field.
- 22:32Speaker 1: And I just think eventually, if you want to use
- 22:36Speaker 1: get the best use out of Young as an asset,
- 22:39Speaker 1: you have to give him major league run like that.
- 22:43Speaker 1: It's the only way you're ever going to figure out
- 22:46Speaker 1: if the bat truly has some playability. So like, if
- 22:51Speaker 1: not now, then I don't really know when if that
- 22:54Speaker 1: makes sense. So that and then the margou tough to say,
- 22:59Speaker 1: tough to say. He had such he was here and
- 23:04Speaker 1: gone so quickly that like he did have moments like
- 23:07Speaker 1: I I saw the I saw, I saw the vision
- 23:11Speaker 1: when he was playing. But do you feel like you
- 23:14Speaker 1: miss Margo? You see what I'm saying.
- 23:16Speaker 3: So if I if I ran the team and I don't,
- 23:19Speaker 3: I don't, I think I'd send Margo to Toledo. That's
- 23:23Speaker 3: no offense to to Manuel. It's just I think you
- 23:25Speaker 3: summed it up, holl Do you really miss him right now,
- 23:28Speaker 3: Who do you want to take off the roster to
- 23:30Speaker 3: put Manuel on. It's a hard time seeing it some
- 23:35Speaker 3: of these other like this is why it's hard. Keith
- 23:38Speaker 3: is not going to Toledo still, It's taken aim while
- 23:41Speaker 3: to pick it up. We he did just omer, but
- 23:43Speaker 3: like he is someone who's not fitting well in the
- 23:46Speaker 3: roster puzzle because of circumstance right now. And I think
- 23:49Speaker 3: Jayhen that's how you's man. They really don't like playing
- 23:52Speaker 3: him in the field, so he's not functioning super well
- 23:55Speaker 3: in the roster puzzle. But you have too much invested
- 23:58Speaker 3: in Keith there. J In I think is certainly susceptible,
- 24:03Speaker 3: but there's some upside there. There's some sensation to give
- 24:07Speaker 3: young runway. But I think he's very much susceptible. If
- 24:10Speaker 3: I were running the team, I think I might send
- 24:12Speaker 3: Trey Sweeney down before any of those guys. But I
- 24:15Speaker 3: think they like Tray Sweeney to the point he's gonna
- 24:17Speaker 3: be He's gonna be like the new Zach McKinstry. The
- 24:20Speaker 3: guy everyone's including myself, is kind of trying to take
- 24:23Speaker 3: off the roster and he's just gonna stick around because
- 24:26Speaker 3: they really like what he can do, He's gonna have
- 24:30Speaker 3: to pick it up.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I think at the plate a little bit.
- 24:32Speaker 3: Obviously the field has to be more reliable, but I
- 24:35Speaker 3: think you know what's in there with the glove where
- 24:37Speaker 3: there's more of a question with the bat. So to
- 24:41Speaker 3: answer that question, I like, I guess my answer is
- 24:43Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't say it's one hundred percent
- 24:45Speaker 3: lock that Jayce Young is going down, but maybe I
- 24:49Speaker 3: kind of still get the feeling that's the most likely scenario.
- 24:53Speaker 3: But we'll see if the Tiger's front office, you know,
- 24:55Speaker 3: gets gets creative once again.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Well, we'll move on to another question because this question
- 25:00Speaker 1: is all about creativity and it has to do with
- 25:03Speaker 1: Alex Cobb speaking about a side album. Out of Mind
- 25:07Speaker 1: is from Martin Boomstra. Previous question from Ron Garrett Shout
- 25:11Speaker 1: everybody sent us something. Alex Cobb will eventually be coming back.
- 25:15Speaker 1: The Tigers have a high performing five person rotation with
- 25:18Speaker 1: Montero as the sixth starter. Slash call up what happens
- 25:23Speaker 1: when Cobb returns? Could he be in the bullpen? That's
- 25:28Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar question. What happens when returns?
- 25:33Speaker 2: I think.
- 25:35Speaker 3: You don't pay guys fifteen millions to just go to
- 25:37Speaker 3: the bullpen. But there's not a picture you can take
- 25:39Speaker 3: out of this rotation right now. And I think that
- 25:42Speaker 3: all adds up to the Tigers probably are in a
- 25:45Speaker 3: huge hurry to get Alex Cobb back up. The last
- 25:49Speaker 3: I heard on this, the team itself was didn't really
- 25:53Speaker 3: have a plane of action because who knows what things
- 25:56Speaker 3: are going to look like in another month or whenever
- 25:58Speaker 3: he might be ready to be active. Also, it sounded
- 26:01Speaker 3: like he still wasn't moving well like the ball's coming
- 26:04Speaker 3: out okay, but maybe the lower half, the mechanics or
- 26:07Speaker 3: just the speed he's moving down the slope is a
- 26:10Speaker 3: little bit of a concern right now. So man, we're
- 26:14Speaker 3: gonna see I mean, I don't I don't want to
- 26:17Speaker 3: wish this one, Alex Cob. Okay, I'm not wishing this one,
- 26:20Speaker 3: ox Cob, But could you see a world where it
- 26:24Speaker 3: hits our inbox one day Alex Cobb has encountered a setback.
- 26:28Speaker 1: I get it.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Just kind of has that feeling about it too.
- 26:32Speaker 3: And if he does get up here, like I say,
- 26:36Speaker 3: I think that's one of those things that could work
- 26:39Speaker 3: itself out, someone else is going to get injured, someone
- 26:42Speaker 3: else is gonna pull up handstring or a groin. You
- 26:45Speaker 3: might need a little spell of Alex Cob, But Alex
- 26:48Speaker 3: cop has to get healthy and be knocking on the
- 26:51Speaker 3: door to be activated before there's any like urgency to
- 26:55Speaker 3: this discussion.
- 26:56Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of how the Tigers themselves
- 26:58Speaker 2: feel about it right now.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a that's a really good answer,
- 27:03Speaker 1: because a really good answer for something that we literally
- 27:06Speaker 1: just don't have the ability to answer. Uh. This this
- 27:10Speaker 1: comes from YouTube. Our YouTube page Tiger Territor on YouTube.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Subscribe if you haven't already. H We talked about Zach
- 27:18Speaker 1: mckinstrin Zach McKinstry, excuse me, h, getting overexposed. But what
- 27:22Speaker 1: is the line between writing the hot hand and potentially
- 27:26Speaker 1: over exposing him and exposing his weaknesses? Now, McKinstry great profile.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Cody wrote about McKinstry the man and the player on
- 27:36Speaker 1: the Athletic I should go read that he's a one
- 27:39Speaker 1: point five war player right now with a three twenty
- 27:42Speaker 1: six average like and ops plus so uh so yeah,
- 27:51Speaker 1: plus the defensive versatility and and the ability and the
- 27:54Speaker 1: running game and and the clubhouse presence it's it's all
- 27:58Speaker 1: coming up. It's all coming up right for Zach McKinstry.
- 28:01Speaker 1: But I do feel like some of the I understand
- 28:04Speaker 1: the premise of that question, and that question is right.
- 28:07Speaker 1: But I think the answer to that question is it's
- 28:09Speaker 1: all gonna happen naturally regardless because a like he he
- 28:14Speaker 1: the hot hand is being written right now by AJ.
- 28:18Speaker 1: But also AJ is not just going to put him
- 28:20Speaker 1: in situations where he is like highly likely to fail,
- 28:24Speaker 1: Like what this this balance that AJ has struck is
- 28:28Speaker 1: going to continue and eventually he will cool off or
- 28:33Speaker 1: he'll go on to have a really surprising Hall of
- 28:35Speaker 1: Fame career, one of the two. But Zach McKinstry is
- 28:37Speaker 1: likely going to cool off and he'll settle into a
- 28:41Speaker 1: role that we more or less know Zach McKinstry to have,
- 28:45Speaker 1: and that will be okay too, right. So I just
- 28:47Speaker 1: think like the answer to this question is it will
- 28:49Speaker 1: definitely just happen naturally.
- 28:53Speaker 2: I think that's a good answer to the question.
- 28:55Speaker 3: And I think the return of Matt Vierling in itself,
- 28:58Speaker 3: McKinstry's playing time will probably go down a little bit.
- 29:02Speaker 2: But the amazing thing is, Karen, he has not been overexposed.
- 29:05Speaker 3: Yet he's been playing almost every day, and he's writing
- 29:07Speaker 3: a ten game hidden streak, and most remarkable, he's in
- 29:11Speaker 3: three ninety three with an ops above a thousand against
- 29:15Speaker 3: left handed pitching. If you want to would have told me,
- 29:18Speaker 3: like Zach McKinstry's gonna have a great April, he's gonna
- 29:20Speaker 3: crush righties, I would have been like, Okay, I believe that.
- 29:23Speaker 3: I would not have thought he'd be playing every day
- 29:25Speaker 3: against lefties and destroying lefties. That seems like something that's
- 29:30Speaker 3: bound to correct. But if pitchers have changed their attack
- 29:34Speaker 3: against mckinsrey, I haven't necessarily noticed it, and it sure
- 29:37Speaker 3: does not seem to have phased him yet. So whatever
- 29:40Speaker 3: the point of overexposure is, we are not there at
- 29:44Speaker 3: all yet with McKinstry.
- 29:45Speaker 2: To your point, it might work out well where just.
- 29:48Speaker 3: When he starts cooling down, you're gonna have some reinforcements
- 29:52Speaker 3: and there's not gonna be that urgency to play him
- 29:55Speaker 3: every single day. But he continues to kind of defy expectations,
- 30:00Speaker 3: and and that's a great testament to him.
- 30:02Speaker 2: It's been a ton of fun to watch, and he
- 30:04Speaker 2: deserves all the credit.
- 30:05Speaker 1: For it, all right, it would not be you know,
- 30:09Speaker 1: like NBA playoffs are going on right now, so everything
- 30:12Speaker 1: the LA The Lakers play tonight, so we don't know
- 30:15Speaker 1: what happens in that series. But everything Lebron, you have
- 30:18Speaker 1: to bring up Jordan, right, It's just like play the hits,
- 30:20Speaker 1: you know, for the for the algorithm and for for
- 30:23Speaker 1: the ratings. So it's not a Tiger's mail bag. Why
- 30:25Speaker 1: I bring that up. It's not a Tiger's mail bag
- 30:27Speaker 1: without a schoobl extension question. So so so this question
- 30:32Speaker 1: we got to play the hits. This question is Uh.
- 30:35Speaker 1: It's kind of regarding the Ilich Scott Harris relationship. If
- 30:38Speaker 1: Harris it's from Oscar High Tower. If Harris goes to
- 30:42Speaker 1: Illach and says, this contract is worth it both money
- 30:46Speaker 1: and on the field results wise, and I want to
- 30:48Speaker 1: sign I Bean, Harris wants to sign Schooble long term.
- 30:53Speaker 1: What does Ilich say?
- 30:55Speaker 3: Uh?
- 30:56Speaker 1: And you know, basically, would he trust Scott Harris? And
- 31:00Speaker 1: at instance, if you're willing to sign off on thirty
- 31:04Speaker 1: year old Alex Bregman for that long of a deal
- 31:08Speaker 1: with no emotional attachment to the guy, I kind of
- 31:12Speaker 1: feel like if Harris went to Illage. Illage would sign
- 31:15Speaker 1: off on this, But you're you're there, You see these people,
- 31:18Speaker 1: you know, you talk to them in some capacity over
- 31:22Speaker 1: the years. I'd be more curious what your thoughts are.
- 31:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll be honest. I don't have much insight
- 31:28Speaker 3: into the mind of Chris Ilitch. I can give you
- 31:30Speaker 3: a lot of insight on all these other factors. Hard
- 31:33Speaker 3: to know, but I think I think the fact that
- 31:36Speaker 3: Tigers offered Bregman six years does just change like my
- 31:41Speaker 3: perspective a little bit. If Ilich is willing to do that,
- 31:43Speaker 3: why wouldn't he be willing to sign a scoopl extension.
- 31:46Speaker 3: You're gonna be talking a little bit of a different
- 31:48Speaker 3: ballpark in terms of the money. I mean, you'd be
- 31:50Speaker 3: talking four hundred, four hundred and fifty million, maybe more
- 31:53Speaker 3: like it could be a massive, massive deal. Assuming Terrek
- 31:56Speaker 3: stays healthy and continues to pitch at an all star
- 32:00Speaker 3: to cy Young level. It's going to be maybe a
- 32:03Speaker 3: record contract for a pitcher because he's going to be
- 32:08Speaker 3: worth it.
- 32:08Speaker 2: I don't think.
- 32:09Speaker 3: I'm not sure Chris Ilich would tell Scott Harris, no,
- 32:12Speaker 3: you can't do that, especially when the team continues to
- 32:16Speaker 3: play well. Especially when you don't have other contracts weighing
- 32:21Speaker 3: you down, like in that time frame. By the time
- 32:23Speaker 3: we're on that side of the Schooble deal, Hobby will
- 32:26Speaker 3: be long gone. But I keep coming back to I
- 32:30Speaker 3: don't the ball is not really in the Tiger's court
- 32:34Speaker 3: here since Schoogl's court and more importantly it's in Scott
- 32:37Speaker 3: Bors's court. It's not impossible. It just feels like a
- 32:41Speaker 3: low personage chance that any offer would be would be
- 32:47Speaker 3: accepted by their camp. But or at the very least
- 32:50Speaker 3: they'll say, hey, that's a great offer. We're still going
- 32:53Speaker 3: to go to free agency. And then maybe it'll be
- 32:56Speaker 3: up to the Dodgers and the Yankees and the you
- 32:58Speaker 3: know whoever else in the Cup years time to see
- 33:00Speaker 3: if they want to beat what the Tigers could put
- 33:03Speaker 3: on the table. It's a weird, tricky situation. I think
- 33:08Speaker 3: Chris Olich and Scott Harris could do you know, could
- 33:12Speaker 3: put forward great effort to extend Schooble. If that still
- 33:15Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's gonna happen, and it might not ultimately
- 33:17Speaker 3: be their faults.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Sure, and you know, Schoolble ninth round pick. Multiple arm
- 33:23Speaker 1: injuries both pre and during his professional career. He's gonna
- 33:29Speaker 1: want to maximize his his value. And I think we're
- 33:33Speaker 1: a pro we're a pro labor podcast, right, I haven't
- 33:35Speaker 1: said that in a while pro labor podcasts. More power
- 33:38Speaker 1: to you for doing that. But if you want to
- 33:40Speaker 1: be in Detroit, do that too. Whatever you want to do,
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- 35:06Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like we've already mentioned those guys a
- 35:09Speaker 3: lot on the pod. I was going over the Tigers'
- 35:11Speaker 3: latest medical update. It's very long, so I feel like
- 35:15Speaker 3: my brain did not even retain all that information. Bo
- 35:18Speaker 3: Briski through a rehab outing Wednesday. I think he just went.
- 35:22Speaker 3: You know, it was a shorter one. John brebyus scheduled
- 35:26Speaker 3: to throw a bullpen session. Alex Cobb completed a bullpen session.
- 35:30Speaker 3: He's got another one coming up Friday. Manuel Margo beginning
- 35:35Speaker 3: a rehab assignment here Wednesday evening. Parker Meadow is not
- 35:38Speaker 3: quite there yet. When soil Perez. He has advanced to
- 35:42Speaker 3: tea and coach flips in the cage. I gotta love
- 35:45Speaker 3: that level of detail. Matt Vierling is still progressing in
- 35:51Speaker 3: the throwing program. A name we haven't been talking about
- 35:56Speaker 3: a lot that I'm just going to bring up you
- 35:57Speaker 3: didn't mentioned as part of the spolight saw your Gibson
- 35:59Speaker 3: Long Hm Swawyer gifts Along is making some nice progress
- 36:05Speaker 3: through a live bullpen session and sounds like he could
- 36:08Speaker 3: be ready at some point this summer. Now have to
- 36:12Speaker 3: come straight back from Tommy John and just shove in
- 36:14Speaker 3: the major leagues, right. It doesn't happen very often, but
- 36:17Speaker 3: let me just tell you, being around Camerica Park, I
- 36:20Speaker 3: keep hearing this guy's name, Tiger's personnel aj Hinch, like
- 36:24Speaker 3: they seem excited about getting Sawyer gifts Along. Matt Vierling
- 36:28Speaker 3: was talking about facing him, and he was like, I
- 36:31Speaker 3: don't know what the radar gun was reading, but it
- 36:33Speaker 3: looked like that ball was coming out hard for a
- 36:35Speaker 3: guy who's still in the road to recovery from surgery. So,
- 36:40Speaker 3: if you want to throw another question in the air,
- 36:41Speaker 3: what happens when Sawyer gives and Long gets back? I
- 36:44Speaker 3: guess the good news is you don't have to put
- 36:46Speaker 3: him in the major leagues right away, But it just
- 36:49Speaker 3: sounds like we could see him in Detroit at some
- 36:51Speaker 3: point this summer, and it sure sounds like the Tigers
- 36:54Speaker 3: kind of have low key high expectations for.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Very good nuggets up this podcast wrap up April here
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- 37:17Speaker 1: following us along for the first month of the season,
- 37:20Speaker 1: and we got a ton more to talk about as
- 37:22Speaker 1: this summer on fold. So for Cody Stapenhagen, I'm Karen Steckley. Everybody,
- 37:27Speaker 1: have great day.