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INTERVIEW: LL COOL J Talks New Album, Ownership Vs Artistry, New School Hip Hop More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.
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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren the Rosa filling in
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Speaker 2: for just just As on maternity leave.
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Speaker 1: And we got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, I kind of legend Queens gets the money.
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Speaker 1: LL cool J. What's going on baby? How you selling
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Speaker 1: feeling great? Man?
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Speaker 3: Llll always got action hero superhero energy when he walk
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Speaker 3: in the room.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good fo yo.
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Speaker 4: I mean that's why I feel like one right now.
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Speaker 4: I mean this is like a good energy, you know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like the you know, year forty. You
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying that we having a you know,
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Speaker 4: a conversation about my new album. You know that's a
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Speaker 4: that's a really unique position, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So it's like it's never been done before that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's never been done. And it shows us
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Speaker 1: that it's possible. Right.
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Speaker 4: Even more importantly, it just shows younger generation and new
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Speaker 4: artists as they you know, are working on their careers
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Speaker 4: and as they embarking, what's possible. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: that we can continue to you know, you know, operated
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Speaker 4: at a high level, you know what I'm saying, and
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Speaker 4: do things that are important culturally, and I just I'm
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Speaker 4: glad that I can set that example.
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Speaker 3: How other been being back on the road on these
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Speaker 3: promo tours doing interviews? How does it feel just to
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Speaker 3: be out here.
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Speaker 2: Because you run it like a new artist, like you're
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Speaker 2: doing everything you run it. I'm like, you ain't tired.
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Speaker 1: Nah, nah, I've been tied for thirty years. You're kidding me.
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Speaker 1: I work hard, but you know what it feels like.
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Speaker 4: It feels like, you know, in a lot of ways,
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Speaker 4: I'm a new artist, you know, because there's there's a
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Speaker 4: day one audience that grew up with me, and then
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Speaker 4: there's an audience that knows me for all of the
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Speaker 4: other things I've done, but don't really aren't as familiar
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Speaker 4: with my music when it comes to me, like directly
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Speaker 4: dropping records, so it's launching records. So it's it feels great, man,
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Speaker 4: it feels fun. I'm just having a good time with it,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like it's exciting to me,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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Speaker 5: And I think you being back out here it shows
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Speaker 5: people the reverence individuals have for you because everybody got
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Speaker 5: an LL story like we had here love. It was
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Speaker 5: like he wanted to be a rapper until he heard you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 5: put the microphone down.
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Speaker 1: That's funny.
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Speaker 4: That's funny now, ed Man, Ed I remember he was
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Speaker 4: he was at my high school security.
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Speaker 1: But I would.
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Speaker 4: Say, what it does for me is it gives me
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Speaker 4: reverence for the culture.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It makes me revere hip hop.
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Speaker 4: It makes me more excited about what's in store for
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Speaker 4: hip hop, you know, and what's possible for hip hop.
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Speaker 4: You know, so many amazing artists out here doing so
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Speaker 4: many great things, and it's wonderful to be able to
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Speaker 4: show them what's possible, you know what I'm saying. Like
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Speaker 4: that for me is like the really exciting part of
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Speaker 4: it because we're just so used to we've grown so
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Speaker 4: accustomed to like writing people off after a certain you know,
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Speaker 4: amount of time. It's just it's beautiful to be able
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Speaker 4: to say no, you could continue, doesn't mean and you
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Speaker 4: don't have to pretend you're in year three when you're
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Speaker 4: in year forty.
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Speaker 1: You can actually be go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Were you nervous about that? Because you know, in hip
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Speaker 2: hop it seems like definitely hip hop. They try to
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Speaker 2: put you in a box, right, Yeah, what they're saying
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Speaker 2: even though you got music now, they'd be like, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: you can't play on this station because he's more of
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Speaker 2: an urban ac artist. But with you, I haven't seen that.
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Speaker 2: I've seen you. You know, you're on every station. It's
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Speaker 2: not just the older quote unquote oldest station.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well you know what it is, man, is you know
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Speaker 4: you have a responsibility as an artist sonically. You know,
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's about what they
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Speaker 4: when they press play with her, they hear like, we
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Speaker 4: could talk about Google, we could talk about Wikipedia, is
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Speaker 4: we can talk about your resume and your plaques on
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Speaker 4: the wall. All that's great, Awards, Hall of Fame sounds great,
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Speaker 4: But when they press play, it's like when you're on
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Speaker 4: the basketball court, can you deliver?
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Speaker 1: Right? It's you know, Lebron can still deliver and yeah
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have.
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Speaker 4: To be in year five. He can be in year
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Speaker 4: twenty one and deliver. So can ll sonically deliver? Like
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Speaker 4: it's like the Lebron it's the idea of Lebron and sports,
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Speaker 4: but it takes twice as long because it's art.
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Speaker 1: So instead of twenty one years, it's forty.
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Speaker 4: But the reality is it's the same idea of can
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Speaker 4: you deliver on the court. So to answer that question,
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Speaker 4: that's about the sonics. It's about making joints that you
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Speaker 4: love and people can appreciate.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: Everybody's not gonna love everything, but if you can create
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Speaker 4: stuff that people appreciate, you know what I mean, I
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Speaker 4: go get it.
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Speaker 6: This album is dropping on Deaf Jam, which is where
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Speaker 6: everything started for you a few years ago. I don't
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Speaker 6: know where you were mentally about like just making music,
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Speaker 6: but music out. But could you have planned this any better?
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Speaker 6: Like what's that feeling like? Kind of like the full
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Speaker 6: circle moment?
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Speaker 4: Well, it's more than a full circle moment, right because
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Speaker 4: I was the first artist on deaf Jam, right and
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Speaker 4: we launched the label together, you know, Tila rock Head.
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Speaker 2: Yeah you are.
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Speaker 7: And that's what I mean is like, you can't predict
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Speaker 7: stuff like.
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Speaker 1: That, No, you can't. You can't. Listen.
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Speaker 4: Listen, God is great, And it's that type of timing,
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Speaker 4: you know, being on death Jam, seeing the excitement in
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Speaker 4: the building, seeing the excitement and all of the people's
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Speaker 4: eyes that work at the company, you know, and even
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Speaker 4: the support from Version and Republic and the way they
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Speaker 4: all are rallying behind this project to make sure that
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Speaker 4: it's it's seen and heard and gets an opportunity to
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Speaker 4: be listen into by people is amazing. It feels like
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Speaker 4: it feels like winning, you know what I'm saying, in
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Speaker 4: the best sense of the word.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know what I mean what losing.
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Speaker 6: Is like, because you said it feels like winning. But like,
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Speaker 6: I don't even I can't even think of what is losing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I put you like this.
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Speaker 4: I don't pay a lot of attention to the idea
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Speaker 4: of losing, right like I think about winning, and I
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Speaker 4: just I focus on the win, you know. And my
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Speaker 4: my thing is if you do have a misstep, it's
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to get it right, you know.
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: So valleys are just opportunity to find another peak that
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Speaker 4: you're gonna go aftert No, I haven't, but and I
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Speaker 4: and I hopefully I like to.
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Speaker 1: I just want to to keep my floyd on for
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Speaker 1: the record.
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Speaker 4: For the record, I'm not trying to talk tough because
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Speaker 4: I want to go through a walk through some.
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Speaker 6: Real quick I don't want to be careful because then
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Speaker 6: you go wrong.
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Speaker 4: For you to you know, you know, you might go viral,
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Speaker 4: you know, like you know, to leave me alone. I
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Speaker 4: ain't trying to play tough.
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Speaker 1: Guys.
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Speaker 2: Now we're doing this doing this project right. It's been
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Speaker 2: eleven years. How did you attack it right? Because you
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Speaker 2: got Eminem on it, you got Sweedy on it. How
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Speaker 2: did you attack it and say, you know what, I
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Speaker 2: want to stick to who ll is, but I still
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Speaker 2: want to keep it young doping and feeling good as well.
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Speaker 4: You know, you know that what you just said, I
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Speaker 4: didn't really think about young dope and feeling I've thought
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Speaker 4: about feeling good. What I more thought about was what
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Speaker 4: do I love and getting with Q Tip? Q Tip
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Speaker 4: is brilliant and q tip is a is a genius
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Speaker 4: and he's very creative.
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Speaker 1: And so the idea was just sonically.
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Speaker 4: Doing something that moved the world and just made us
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Speaker 4: made me respond, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't do like I didn't put.
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Speaker 4: Sweety on the song because she's younger, or put em
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Speaker 4: on a song. I put them on it because sonically
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Speaker 4: they I felt they would sound good, We felt they
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Speaker 4: would sound good on the songs you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: So it was about the music. It wasn't about stunt cast.
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Speaker 4: And then you know, like I said, man, like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know it's TV experience for sure.
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Speaker 4: Right, So it's like I just wanted to do something
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Speaker 4: that people were just vibele for. Man. You know, like
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Speaker 4: when you listen to the whole record front to back,
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Speaker 4: you know as a body, and I know we're gonna
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Speaker 4: cherry pick, and I know people pick songs and they
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Speaker 4: go through their process. I can't tell people how to
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Speaker 4: consume the music, but you know, when you listen to it,
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Speaker 4: you realize, like we did everything purposely.
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Speaker 2: Well then any one song that I was like and
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Speaker 2: I don't know how difficult it was, if it was
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Speaker 2: able to do. Like you have a history of trying
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Speaker 2: to pull together the toughest mcs and every MC going
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Speaker 2: at it. Right, We've seen it with with Red Men,
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Speaker 2: Met the Man with two one who shot you? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I shot you? You ever wanted to do that with this
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Speaker 2: one and be like let me pull all the MC's
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Speaker 2: that's lyrical and let me let's have a straight up andrald.
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Speaker 4: But see what I did was I didn't repeat myself.
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Speaker 4: I did go get great guys, like I went and
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Speaker 4: did a joint with him, and I did a joint
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Speaker 4: with Nas and I did joints with people that really
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Speaker 4: can bring it on the mic.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: I love doing that, Like that's like my thing, Like
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Speaker 4: I'm not out here, you know, I want to be
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Speaker 4: with the best and work with the best. But in
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Speaker 4: terms of the posse cut I did, I really wanted
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Speaker 4: to get some kids who had never had an opportunity
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Speaker 4: and opportunity, you know, I have so many stars on
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Speaker 4: the album Snoop Is on the album and Buster and
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Speaker 4: you know, and different people that we name, even Sona
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Speaker 4: Jobetta who's huge, you know in London and Africa and
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Speaker 4: just an amazing musician. But I wanted to give some
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Speaker 4: kids that never had an opportunity. I made a vow.
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Speaker 4: I said, Yo, I'm gonna take some kids. So I
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Speaker 4: got this kid, Don Pablito from South Side Queens and
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Speaker 4: shout out to him and uh uh Mad Squabbles from
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Speaker 4: Philly and Jayson from Lafayette, Louisiana and put them on
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Speaker 4: the song so that they could have an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: So but that being said, you know, you know, you
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Speaker 1: never know.
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Speaker 4: They could be remixes, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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Speaker 4: you know, I consider, I would consider rocking with people.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It depends on what it
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Speaker 4: is you're working with. Are they just know No, I
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Speaker 4: didn't sign them.
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Speaker 1: I didn't.
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Speaker 4: I didn't want nothing from him. I just wanted to
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Speaker 4: give them an opportunity. I just want him to be
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Speaker 4: on the same album with EM and Snoop and l
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Speaker 4: and and then give my opportunity. And you know, you
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Speaker 4: got to make the best of it.
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Speaker 5: You keep your ad that I remember one time, but
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Speaker 5: further on on how you found nose guy. I remember
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Speaker 5: one time here and you say your favorite rabbit at
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Speaker 5: the moment, was like pee wee long will Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was funny. He was funny.
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Speaker 4: But I like a lot of different artists, like I
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Speaker 4: listened to everything, you know, I was. I was listening
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Speaker 4: to the Young Nudy today, the Dag going up. Then
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Speaker 4: I was checking out, you know, I like the little
9:43
Speaker 4: dirt thing, but I like the core day and then
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Speaker 4: you know, you could you know, flip it all away
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Speaker 4: to you know, I like some of what glow Rilla.
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Speaker 1: Is doing and you know.
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Speaker 4: Some of them were hey all some of them records,
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Speaker 4: you know, and I listened to all artists. I love
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Speaker 4: hip hop, you know what I'm saying. I love hip
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Speaker 4: hop culture. You know what I'm saying. People think that,
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, you know, I go home and
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Speaker 4: stand up in the corner and kind of melt into.
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Speaker 1: The water and like, don't you know what the hell
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Speaker 1: is going on in the world. But I'm actually paying attention,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying one hundred percent.
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Speaker 6: So it's the song with Sweetie, right, because Sweety gets
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Speaker 6: so much like people love to like throw shots at
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Speaker 6: her because of like saying like she's not lyrical whatever.
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Speaker 6: And we talk about you working on lyricists. How did
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Speaker 6: you How did y'all link up? Is that somebody you
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Speaker 6: had your ear on? What made you go for Sweetie?
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Speaker 1: I thought I thought that I liked her.
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Speaker 4: I'm best friend with the you know that record, and
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Speaker 4: I just thought she was cool, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: And I like the name, and I just thought it
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Speaker 4: was cool. I was like, yo, let's put her on
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Speaker 4: the joint. And that was it. And you know, at
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Speaker 4: the end of the day, that's an opportunity for her
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Speaker 4: to be better, and she took her time and worked
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Speaker 4: on that project, and took her time and worked on
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Speaker 4: that verse and made it right. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: And you know, if somebody else you know, wants to
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Speaker 4: be on it, then.
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Speaker 7: You know, shoot your shot.
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Speaker 1: I mean, good luck, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: Remixed it, Little Ball remixed it and called it unctivity.
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Speaker 5: So he's rapping about doing grown stuff over the record.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, good luck with that, Duvau. Good luck with that, bro,
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Speaker 1: good luck with your unctivity. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Good luck. You know we love you, We love that
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Speaker 1: for you. Do you like being called or do you?
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Speaker 1: I don't care about you don't care. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna.
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Speaker 2: Do because you are you are, You're unto life.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're rich, uncle.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, that ain't even about money.
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Speaker 4: It's about character, right because you know you you can
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Speaker 4: you know a lot of dudes, like I said, a
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Speaker 4: lot of dudes lead with their wallet, but there's nothing
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Speaker 4: else there, you know what I'm saying, So you can't.
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Speaker 4: Really it ain't always about the money. I know, we
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Speaker 4: like to we're very bad centric in our culture, but
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Speaker 4: in order for you to be successful, you know, like
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Speaker 4: Todd made ll ll and make Todd.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: So people kind of can get that confused, you know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I would have this energy regardless
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Speaker 4: I would be just be doing you know, I might
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Speaker 4: be coming through your window or something, but you would
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Speaker 4: get the same entity, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 4: it's like, would be the biggest Margler ever. Man, we
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Speaker 4: having a good time, crazy, right? Been Like, Yo, where
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Speaker 4: exactly grammatically correct? You know what I meant to ask?
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Speaker 4: I was watching I guess it came back up on
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Speaker 4: social media. It was an interview with Jamie Fox. They
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Speaker 4: were talking about you know, y'all in your situation when
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Speaker 4: y'all we shooting that movie.
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Speaker 2: I was just curious, he's laughing funny. Now you got
12:29
Speaker 2: to clear up what actually happened, because he said it
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Speaker 2: didn't happen that way, that you didn't knock him out.
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Speaker 2: But I wanted to know could that happened now? Because
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Speaker 2: back then, if I feel like whatever Jamie says happened is.
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Speaker 6: What you really want to say? Because I saw your face,
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Speaker 6: you digressed a bit, Yeah I did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.
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Speaker 4: Whatever Jamie says happened is what happened. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 4: good with that because that's my man.
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Speaker 1: Like so you.
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Speaker 4: Know, I'll tell you what Jamie knocked me out?
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Speaker 2: How about that? Now you wanna make us laugh.
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I mean, you know, I mean, whatever ever,
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Speaker 4: whatever JV said happened, that's what.
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Speaker 5: No disrespecting Jamie at all, I know, I'm just saying that,
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Speaker 5: that's my dude. When somebody says, now he knocked me out,
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Speaker 5: he beat the ship out of that means.
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Speaker 1: That whatever JMI said happened happened.
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Speaker 3: That was a long time ago.
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Speaker 2: Then you know, it just came back up. I wanted
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Speaker 2: to know, could that happen on movie sets now? Or
13:21
Speaker 2: is it too protected? Because now it seems like if
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Speaker 2: any little things human.
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Speaker 4: Resources by, you're going to human resources if you you know,
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Speaker 4: if you if you get a hangnail and you express
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Speaker 4: it wrong, I mean, he triggered me, you know, so
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Speaker 4: iggering everything's triggered back in the day, triggering with the trigger.
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Speaker 1: Now the trigger is like you know, you.
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Speaker 5: Hail, you're being hanged out, triggering exactly exactly.
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Speaker 1: You got blue on this. I mean, you hate red.
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Speaker 2: You know, like, you know, how does that affect the
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Speaker 2: industry outside of of course to me to movement?
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Speaker 1: But how does that affect be?
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Speaker 4: Bro?
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Speaker 1: You got mind your business?
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Speaker 4: You can't get your creative juices? Like, no, you get
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Speaker 4: your creative juices. You better just keep make sure they
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Speaker 4: don't get on nobody else. You got bees. Be easy
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Speaker 4: with the projuices, you know, no doubt, no doubt.
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Speaker 1: We just have fun.
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Speaker 4: Man, Listen, man, I try to give the I give
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Speaker 4: the respect I want to receive, and I keep it there,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and just have a ball
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Speaker 4: with it.
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Speaker 1: And you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: I saw you say songwriting is what's missing in today's
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Speaker 5: hip hop climate.
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Speaker 3: Do you think it's because folks just want es?
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Speaker 4: I think I think it's because a lot of times,
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Speaker 4: a lot of artists what they really want to say.
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Speaker 4: They have an inspiration and then they make it. They
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Speaker 4: say ah, but people don't want to hear that. They
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Speaker 4: make that decision. So if I don't, if you don't
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Speaker 4: write proclivities, then you don't get activity, you don't get
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Speaker 4: the the you know what I'm saying. If you don't
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Speaker 4: write to sincere inspired stuff, people don't respond the same way.
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Speaker 4: So it's safer. It's really safe to talk about the
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Speaker 4: bag and you know, ops and chicks like that's very safe,
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Speaker 4: Like you don't have to worry about nothing. It's hard
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Speaker 4: to you know, mess that up, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: So that's the thing that kind of I think people
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Speaker 4: whereas if you're gonna get into something like thirty Decembers
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Speaker 4: on my album, or if you're gonna get into Black
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Speaker 4: Cold Sweet, or if you're gonna get into the Spirit
15:20
Speaker 4: of Sirius. So if you're gonna get into some of
15:22
Speaker 4: these songs that I wrote on here, you have to
15:24
Speaker 4: be willing. You have to risk looking stupid in order
15:28
Speaker 4: to win. You know what I'm saying.
15:29
Speaker 1: We talked about before.
15:30
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta risk, you know,
15:32
Speaker 4: you gotta be willing to be vulnerable.
15:35
Speaker 1: The strength is in the vulnerability.
15:36
Speaker 4: Vulnerability is where the strength comes from because you gotta
15:38
Speaker 4: put it on on the line. Jordan Lebron, Steph Curry,
15:42
Speaker 4: they take the last shot, right. There's vulnerability in that,
15:45
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, but exactly, but you can win.
15:49
Speaker 4: So that's that's kind of how music is and I
15:51
Speaker 4: think a lot of artists right now. I think it'll
15:54
Speaker 4: turn the corner though. I think that this album will
15:57
Speaker 4: inspire a lot of artists to do. You'll see more
16:00
Speaker 4: things happening. You'll see people taking chances creatively.
16:03
Speaker 1: You see.
16:04
Speaker 5: You know we had mc light here. She said she
16:06
Speaker 5: you're the reason. Yeah, you're the reason. She decided to
16:09
Speaker 5: put our new album.
16:10
Speaker 2: Oh work, Well this really said when she was here, Huh.
16:13
Speaker 3: You gotta put album.
16:16
Speaker 1: Called one on one?
16:17
Speaker 8: Yeah, why are you getting back into this crazy game
16:19
Speaker 8: l challenge? Yeah. We did a fireside chat with him,
16:25
Speaker 8: and in the midst of it, you know, he says,
16:27
Speaker 8: I'm putting out new music. I was like, oh, that's greazy,
16:29
Speaker 8: he said when you And I was like, well, I
16:33
Speaker 8: don't know. He's like, stop being scared. I was like, scared.
16:36
Speaker 8: True he said that, and I was like, Okay, I
16:38
Speaker 8: got to it.
16:39
Speaker 3: I love that the nefut would still be inspiring on.
16:41
Speaker 1: I love it man, I love it. Man.
16:43
Speaker 4: Listen, can't be scary, man, Like, what do you being
16:46
Speaker 4: scary for? It's always gonna be great acts. Of course,
16:49
Speaker 4: there's gonna be new artists. Of course, times are gonna change.
16:51
Speaker 4: Of course, there's gonna be generational changes that comes with
16:54
Speaker 4: the territory, but that that's the opportunity.
16:56
Speaker 1: For us to prove that we was born to do this.
16:58
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You don't stop it because
17:00
Speaker 1: time's changed. You know what I'm saying. If you need your.
17:03
Speaker 4: Shorts to be a little longer on the court or
17:04
Speaker 4: a little shorter, they change the rules and the touch fouls.
17:08
Speaker 4: You learn the rules of the game and the new
17:10
Speaker 4: rules and then play better than everybody else.
17:12
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's simple.
17:14
Speaker 4: You know, it's simple in the thought process, you know
17:16
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Now, obviously executing it is not as easy,
17:19
Speaker 4: but it's simple when you make the decision.
17:23
Speaker 3: When it comes to writing songs.
17:25
Speaker 5: You know, when you got your pen, you got your pad,
17:27
Speaker 5: does that make you dig deeper? Because a lot of
17:29
Speaker 5: these guys that get high, they going to studio and
17:30
Speaker 5: just when you got the pin in the pad, you
17:33
Speaker 5: actually got to dig a little deeper, don't you.
17:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:35
Speaker 4: So here's the thing, right, A lot of people, you know,
17:40
Speaker 4: rapping is not necessarily the thing it's about.
17:44
Speaker 1: Are you Are you an artist? Are you creating art?
17:46
Speaker 4: So you know a lot of people can put words together,
17:49
Speaker 4: like I can bounce a basketball, but you know, do
17:52
Speaker 4: I really want to be on the court with you know,
17:55
Speaker 4: Curry and Draymond and you know.
17:57
Speaker 1: Like I can bounce a basketball, I can't.
18:00
Speaker 4: I can make a shot, so you know, I could
18:02
Speaker 4: get lucky and make a shot, but that's not the
18:04
Speaker 4: same at the level. So hip hop is the same
18:06
Speaker 4: way when it comes to MC's like, yeah, you might
18:09
Speaker 4: can put a few words together, but you're not like
18:12
Speaker 4: ll Na's and eminem.
18:13
Speaker 1: And you know, like there's a difference in skill lel.
18:16
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest.
18:17
Speaker 4: So when I put pen to paper, I'm creating something.
18:22
Speaker 4: I'm going into a world. I'm disappearing into this thing
18:25
Speaker 4: I'm trying to create. I'm like looking at the marble
18:28
Speaker 4: and finding the statue inside of it.
18:30
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not just putting any
18:33
Speaker 1: words together now. Mind you.
18:35
Speaker 4: If I write something that's silly, I'm doing it intentionally.
18:40
Speaker 1: See that's the.
18:40
Speaker 4: Thing that people don't always get because when people judge
18:43
Speaker 4: hip hop, like the line I love to use as
18:46
Speaker 4: an example is my head Sprong record, because people there
18:50
Speaker 4: are a lot of people who think that this guy
18:52
Speaker 4: wrote that song trying to make the best rap that
18:55
Speaker 4: he could.
18:56
Speaker 1: But that's not what that was.
18:57
Speaker 4: The intent was to make it and funny and entertaining,
19:03
Speaker 4: and so people like So it's like writing comedy, it's
19:05
Speaker 4: like writing drama, it's like writing romance. It's like understanding
19:09
Speaker 4: what the intention is of what you're writing. So what
19:13
Speaker 4: happens is in hip hop, a lot of things get
19:15
Speaker 4: judged by the same metric.
19:17
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You can't judge you know.
19:20
Speaker 4: Somebody's got to die, you know what I mean, by
19:23
Speaker 4: the same standard as I don't know. You know, juicy,
19:27
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying something like exactly, so you
19:30
Speaker 4: can't picking boogets is picking boogets, you know what I mean.
19:33
Speaker 4: And and hypnotize is hypnotize and they're different. And so
19:37
Speaker 4: when when artists understand that, I think that it'll help
19:40
Speaker 4: them with when they craft these albums, when they craft
19:42
Speaker 4: these songs.
19:43
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. You never got.
19:45
Speaker 2: Nervous because you were probably one of the first artists
19:48
Speaker 2: that say, you know what, I'm gonna be very emotional
19:50
Speaker 2: on the record, right, I'm gonna say I need love,
19:51
Speaker 2: I want to round the way girl, at the time
19:54
Speaker 2: when hip hop was so focused on I'm the best
19:57
Speaker 2: and what made you say? You know what, Now, I'm
19:58
Speaker 2: gonna go f with the chick over here.
20:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let youall do this.
20:01
Speaker 2: I'll be back, but I'm gonna ahead put the chicks right.
20:03
Speaker 4: Well, I'll put it to you like this. It's like
20:08
Speaker 4: a guy, you know, showing up to the projects to
20:10
Speaker 4: see a girl. What does that say about him? Like
20:15
Speaker 4: the girl and he could fight or he's he's willing
20:17
Speaker 4: to risk it regardless or whatever.
20:19
Speaker 1: He's willing to risk it right.
20:20
Speaker 4: So me doing I need love on me doing these
20:23
Speaker 4: romance records. That's because I wasn't scared, not because I
20:28
Speaker 4: was soft. I wasn't scared. That's why I could do that.
20:34
Speaker 1: You under saying.
20:34
Speaker 4: I'm saying so like you gotta like sometimes people they misconstrue.
20:39
Speaker 4: It's like the guys that I meet, the guy like
20:41
Speaker 4: I you know, they will be the nicest guys in
20:43
Speaker 4: the world. The toughest guys I know, and the toughest
20:46
Speaker 4: guys I've known growing up have been like some of
20:48
Speaker 4: the nicest guys. The most dangerous guys I've known have
20:51
Speaker 4: been some of the nicest guys. So it's like with
20:56
Speaker 4: with the with the with the music. It was it
20:58
Speaker 4: wasn't about trying to have an image. It was about
21:02
Speaker 4: what I want to do as an artist.
21:04
Speaker 1: Period.
21:05
Speaker 4: What do you want to say as an artist? What
21:06
Speaker 4: do you want to do as an artist? That's what
21:08
Speaker 4: I'm going to do. And and you know, peer pressure
21:12
Speaker 4: makes me laugh. He's like, really, you know, I remember
21:17
Speaker 4: being fourteen standing in the garage.
21:19
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
21:19
Speaker 4: We're playing hooky and all the dudes are standing around,
21:22
Speaker 4: and they was in they were sitting in chairs and
21:25
Speaker 4: if the garage is dark, the windows are taped over
21:27
Speaker 4: in Queen's right and I and I remember watching them
21:30
Speaker 4: and they were smoking weed in this particular day.
21:32
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not smoking.
21:33
Speaker 4: So I stood over in the corner and I remember
21:34
Speaker 4: just sitting in the standing in the corner, watching them
21:37
Speaker 4: and watching everybody's brain change and the conversation change. I
21:41
Speaker 4: was saying to myself, it's gotta be something more to
21:43
Speaker 4: life than this. But the point I'm making is not
21:46
Speaker 4: that I was too cool or too good, because that's
21:48
Speaker 4: not what I'm saying. The point was that I made it.
21:50
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not smoking and I didn't care who
21:52
Speaker 4: cared and who had a problem with it. That's my point.
21:55
Speaker 4: So when you comes to the music, it's the same idea.
21:58
Speaker 4: It's like, yo, you do what you want to do. Man,
22:01
Speaker 4: Like I do what I want to do creatively. I
22:04
Speaker 4: do what i want to do creatively, not what people
22:06
Speaker 4: say I'm supposed to do, right because what you know,
22:10
Speaker 4: a lot of times what people want, like right now,
22:11
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you're supposed to sit down like you
22:14
Speaker 4: have people like there on the internet. Oh, how could
22:16
Speaker 4: he have the whips and chains and the and the
22:18
Speaker 4: this and that in the video?
22:20
Speaker 1: Because people are freaks and that really goes on.
22:23
Speaker 4: And I know you what, I know, you want to
22:25
Speaker 4: pretend that everybody's like having.
22:28
Speaker 1: You know, missionary with a sheep. But I got I
22:30
Speaker 1: got news for you.
22:31
Speaker 4: There's some freaky stuff going on out there, and I'm
22:34
Speaker 4: rapping about it.
22:35
Speaker 1: You know. Oh, I can't believe it. You're at my age.
22:39
Speaker 4: What when did I sign up to not get yo?
22:44
Speaker 4: I never signed that piece of paper. I don't remember
22:47
Speaker 4: signing that contract. You know, you got to stop liking
22:49
Speaker 4: freaking off And I don't know when that happens.
22:52
Speaker 5: Those people that are new though, because I remember you
22:54
Speaker 5: pouring the chocolate syrup on the girl's caps all.
22:58
Speaker 1: Make average make avenue.
23:00
Speaker 4: He was a joke, absolutely bro absolutely wilding, now completely
23:06
Speaker 4: out of control.
23:07
Speaker 7: Sounds like, Yo, we need to sit right here.
23:09
Speaker 2: You got you? Okay?
23:12
Speaker 6: I heard you cross your leg.
23:16
Speaker 1: Yeah you like that, don't you? Yeah?
23:20
Speaker 2: Gotcha? All right?
23:22
Speaker 3: Directors?
23:23
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it.
23:25
Speaker 5: Ain't even the wildest one. One of the wildest, one
23:27
Speaker 5: of the most subtle. One was in the doing It
23:29
Speaker 5: video the way you bite the accle when.
23:31
Speaker 1: You we want that video? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard yo.
23:40
Speaker 1: But I love that.
23:40
Speaker 3: Yo.
23:41
Speaker 4: You know what, man, I gotta tell you, man, I
23:43
Speaker 4: love like I love doing funny stuff like that and ridiculous,
23:47
Speaker 4: like I really like like I had jeans on in
23:51
Speaker 4: the Paradise video in the water, I know that that's right,
23:54
Speaker 4: like like, but what's funny is that. What's funny is
23:56
Speaker 4: people will point it out to you like I didn't
23:59
Speaker 4: know idea, like you do know how film that right?
24:03
Speaker 6: Like you do know that I know what how many
24:05
Speaker 6: takes in the what genes do you have to do?
24:07
Speaker 7: Because it's a little rough.
24:08
Speaker 4: Many as it takes as many as it takes you
24:10
Speaker 4: know what I mean, how many takes we need?
24:12
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Let's have it.
24:14
Speaker 3: Stuff became fashion like the one leg up man.
24:17
Speaker 4: I got that from the bike messagers in New York. Yeah,
24:20
Speaker 4: because the bike messengers be riding around. Think about it,
24:23
Speaker 4: they be in the city. They have their pants leg
24:25
Speaker 4: up because they don't want it to get in the chain.
24:27
Speaker 4: Excuse me, stewing getting in the chain or the bike.
24:30
Speaker 4: I saw that one day. I pulled my joint up.
24:32
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, this is a vibe. I start wearing
24:34
Speaker 4: my joint like.
24:37
Speaker 1: Joint like that.
24:39
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I love the idea
24:42
Speaker 4: of just having fun, not taking it too serious. There's
24:45
Speaker 4: a time to be serious. The time to be serious
24:47
Speaker 4: is when you're going after your goals. The time to
24:49
Speaker 4: be serious is when you have dreams. The time to
24:52
Speaker 4: be serious is when you dealing with frustration but you
24:54
Speaker 4: want to take it to the next level and fight
24:56
Speaker 4: through it. But the other side of it is when
24:58
Speaker 4: I'm making music, I want to be silly and I
25:01
Speaker 4: want to do stuff that's ridiculous, and I want to
25:04
Speaker 4: do stuff that where we could laugh about it.
25:06
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, let's have some fun
25:08
Speaker 1: with it.
25:08
Speaker 3: Because grab the woman's leg and started playing the guitar.
25:11
Speaker 4: Absolutely bro absolutely, all me, all me, all me, and
25:18
Speaker 4: you know you know it's it's it's you know yo.
25:21
Speaker 4: I'm telling you b a while out. How much did
25:24
Speaker 4: you have to how much did you lose to do
25:25
Speaker 4: this album? Because you had to put a lot of focus.
25:27
Speaker 4: I'm sure you put acting stuff to the back. I'm
25:29
Speaker 4: sure you put a lot of the other stuff to
25:30
Speaker 4: the back. How much did you lose to action?
25:32
Speaker 1: I only gained.
25:33
Speaker 4: I only gained because I gained fulfillment. I gained inspiration.
25:41
Speaker 4: I was able to take up take time out of
25:45
Speaker 4: my life to focus on the thing that I love
25:47
Speaker 4: the most. And when you put your energy into what
25:50
Speaker 4: you love like and you truly believe you was born
25:54
Speaker 4: to do it, you never lose. There's no way to lose.
25:58
Speaker 4: I already won, like you see what I'm saying, because
26:01
Speaker 4: I love it. Dog See it's not see okay, I'll
26:05
Speaker 4: give you an example. May he rest in power someone
26:10
Speaker 4: like fat Man's school. The joy that you bring to
26:17
Speaker 4: people through your music is incalculable. See we really people,
26:25
Speaker 4: people are really and look I got money. I'm a
26:27
Speaker 4: wealthy guy. People really put a lot of and I
26:31
Speaker 4: understand it. Put a lot of emphasis on money, money, money, money,
26:35
Speaker 4: money and status, status, status, status, status, And I get it.
26:38
Speaker 4: Image is important people, I get it. But what people
26:42
Speaker 4: don't put enough value on is the joy of life
26:47
Speaker 4: and living well and having a good time and enjoying
26:51
Speaker 4: what you're doing. And that means something that's a different
26:55
Speaker 4: type of wealth. You know what I'm saying. That's like,
26:58
Speaker 4: that's really really important. Like I giving it example, if
27:00
Speaker 4: you have a great relationship with your mother, it's not
27:04
Speaker 4: a it's not transactional, but.
27:07
Speaker 1: You still love her and it's still the most important you.
27:10
Speaker 4: You know, when you see that smile, when you see
27:13
Speaker 4: that that joy, when you see the warmth of your
27:15
Speaker 4: mom when you walk in that door, you know what
27:16
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Or maybe it's your dad, or maybe it's
27:18
Speaker 4: your big sister, or it's unc or it's Auntie, whoever
27:21
Speaker 4: it is like those that matters too. So if you
27:24
Speaker 4: can find that joy in your life and your career,
27:27
Speaker 4: and you can find that joy in other areas of.
27:28
Speaker 1: Your life, that's a true beautiful thing.
27:31
Speaker 4: So I didn't lose nothing, nothing, I gained everything. So
27:37
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like all of the money comes,
27:39
Speaker 4: all of the fame and for all that stuff comes,
27:42
Speaker 4: but you still got to enjoy the moment for the
27:45
Speaker 4: moment's sake, you know what i mean.
27:49
Speaker 6: Going back to the fashion stuff, so the one leg
27:53
Speaker 6: up but the hat, the Foobu hat in the gap commercial, Yeah,
27:58
Speaker 6: what was your thought process behind that?
28:00
Speaker 7: That even intentional?
28:00
Speaker 6: Like what was the okay, so because all the guitar,
28:04
Speaker 6: the chocolate on the girl, now we're talking about the hat,
28:06
Speaker 6: So talk us through that decision to do that in
28:08
Speaker 6: that day.
28:09
Speaker 4: I felt like they we needed that exposure. They needed
28:12
Speaker 4: that exposure and you're a huge company and it's not
28:17
Speaker 4: gonna hurt you. And I'm gonna give you what you need,
28:19
Speaker 4: but you're gonna give me what I need and it's
28:20
Speaker 4: win win and nobody gets hurt. And you know, it
28:25
Speaker 4: ended up at that time taking Fooboo to four hundred
28:28
Speaker 4: million a.
28:28
Speaker 7: Year and increased the audience by three.
28:31
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's what I'm supposed to do. You know,
28:35
Speaker 4: when you roll with somebody, you roll with people.
28:37
Speaker 7: There was no pushback on the set from the.
28:39
Speaker 4: Yeah there was there was. They was like, oh, you
28:41
Speaker 4: know the hat and this I said, no, I'm my owner.
28:44
Speaker 1: Oh so I can clear it.
28:46
Speaker 3: Nobody gets hurt. And everybody's like, okay.
28:47
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, yeah yeah, and I'm an owner and this
28:51
Speaker 4: is it in boom and now we you know what
28:53
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
28:54
Speaker 1: You, of course, I.
28:59
Speaker 6: Thought you just did it because you rocked with them.
29:01
Speaker 6: I mean, of course, but I didn't know when you
29:03
Speaker 6: even just said that. I thought that was just you, like.
29:07
Speaker 4: Because he was from Queeny, I was, and they was
29:09
Speaker 4: holding me that because I was from Queeny.
29:12
Speaker 1: We was holding each other up.
29:14
Speaker 6: Let's talk do that. So at what point did you
29:16
Speaker 6: become an owner in football? And why why haven't we
29:18
Speaker 6: heard more?
29:18
Speaker 2: I didn't.
29:18
Speaker 7: I never heard because.
29:20
Speaker 4: Well, what's funny is that I just didn't really talk
29:24
Speaker 4: about that. Why because it wasn't important. Why is the
29:29
Speaker 4: job done? Why was it important? See, Like everybody like,
29:36
Speaker 4: I'm a rapper, I'm an MC. I'm okay, let's stop
29:41
Speaker 4: right there. Yeah, I act I do other things, but
29:44
Speaker 4: I don't like I don't like have to be other
29:47
Speaker 4: things in order to feel like I'm kind of impressing
29:50
Speaker 4: the world in some other way.
29:52
Speaker 1: I'm good with being an MC.
29:54
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that because I know what I do.
29:58
Speaker 4: You understand what I'm trying to say, Like like, so
30:01
Speaker 4: we're kind of in this space where like like you
30:06
Speaker 4: hear guys talking like as if they're like I heard
30:08
Speaker 4: a guy say the other day he was like, oh,
30:11
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to just be an artist.
30:12
Speaker 4: I want to have an artist and I'm gonna be
30:13
Speaker 4: a CEO, as if being an artistst some sort of
30:17
Speaker 4: lower level thing. Yo, Stevie Want is an artist, Michael
30:20
Speaker 4: Jackson's an artist, Miles Davis is an artist. Bob Marley
30:23
Speaker 4: was an artist, Marvin Gaye was an artist. Prince was
30:26
Speaker 4: an artist. Oh cool, Ja is an artist, Like, I
30:29
Speaker 4: don't know what this idea Like ceo CEOs want to
30:33
Speaker 4: hang with artists. You know, Pablo Conso was an artist.
30:37
Speaker 4: Salvador Dolly was an artist. You know, Alex Hayley was
30:41
Speaker 4: an artist. Like art is art, This is art.
30:45
Speaker 1: So I don't need to.
30:48
Speaker 4: Tell you about my business life in order to impress you.
30:51
Speaker 4: I do have a business life. I have lots of investments.
30:54
Speaker 4: I got all kinds of stuff I could just rattle
30:56
Speaker 4: off and could inflate my network and give you a
30:59
Speaker 4: different valuation. Now I could show up a lot. Trust me,
31:03
Speaker 4: I'm a rapper, That's what I am. I'm an MC.
31:07
Speaker 4: I love the art. I love making hip hop. I
31:10
Speaker 4: don't need to pretend to be nothing else. So for
31:13
Speaker 4: those little kids out there, because see some kids, some
31:16
Speaker 4: people are using hip hop as a stepping stone. Okay,
31:20
Speaker 4: you got that opportunity. I can't begrudge that. I can't
31:22
Speaker 4: knock the hustle.
31:23
Speaker 1: Right.
31:24
Speaker 4: The flip side of that is for those little kids
31:26
Speaker 4: out there who want to paint, who want to do hair,
31:31
Speaker 4: who want to do botany, who want to grow plants,
31:35
Speaker 4: who want to build things, like be what you are.
31:39
Speaker 4: You're an engineer, being an engineer, you know what I mean?
31:43
Speaker 4: Like if you you know, now with AI you don't
31:46
Speaker 4: have to write code, but if back in the days,
31:49
Speaker 4: if you were going to write code, you write code.
31:51
Speaker 5: Like you understand, what I'm saying is that everything you
31:53
Speaker 5: say is interesting because there was a time, I don't
31:55
Speaker 5: know if it was probably in the mid nineties, maybe
31:57
Speaker 5: early two thousands, where everybody started ranking their artists their
32:01
Speaker 5: mcs based on what else they were doing outside of rap.
32:05
Speaker 5: And so when I think about the fact that not
32:07
Speaker 5: only did you make death Jam, what it is clearly
32:10
Speaker 5: made fool. What if you were if all of that
32:12
Speaker 5: we knew all of that, I think they would be
32:14
Speaker 5: ranking you away different.
32:16
Speaker 1: Part of death jam, part of fool.
32:18
Speaker 2: People have no idea about you, Like God.
32:21
Speaker 7: Did they approach you or did you go to them?
32:25
Speaker 1: They came to me, Damon and them came to me.
32:27
Speaker 4: They stood outside my house for two weeks or something,
32:31
Speaker 4: and I, you know, love them and appreciate them and
32:34
Speaker 4: respect them, and said, let's do it.
32:36
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They know it. They'll come
32:37
Speaker 1: on here and confirm it. You know what I'm saying.
32:39
Speaker 1: It's what it is.
32:40
Speaker 7: I believe it. It's just now I want to hear
32:42
Speaker 7: the story like I just want to.
32:43
Speaker 4: It's like my thing is that you know, look, you
32:46
Speaker 4: do some things, you've you succeed, Some things don't work.
32:49
Speaker 1: Some things work. I mean even Rock the Bells is
32:54
Speaker 1: look Rock the Bells.
32:56
Speaker 4: You know, I know people people like to p ten
33:00
Speaker 4: that they don't know that Rock the Bells brought timeless
33:02
Speaker 4: hip hop back.
33:03
Speaker 1: It did. This is just the reality.
33:05
Speaker 4: The Rock the Bellts Festival, the Rock the Bell's cruise,
33:08
Speaker 4: me doing that channel, me bringing all these artists out
33:11
Speaker 4: me putting all of that energy into it is the
33:13
Speaker 4: reason why there's more of an even playing field for
33:16
Speaker 4: artists that have been around a lot longer.
33:18
Speaker 3: I bought it up at the meeting. I literally bought
33:21
Speaker 3: that up yesterday. Use that as an example, you know
33:23
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
33:23
Speaker 4: So, but at the same time, it's like, okay, cool,
33:28
Speaker 4: but I don't need to beat people in the head
33:30
Speaker 4: with that, Like I think that. You know, sometimes you
33:34
Speaker 4: gotta let your game speak for itself.
33:37
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
33:38
Speaker 4: And if there are certain artists who are entrepreneurs and
33:41
Speaker 4: who are crafting their business image, and if that's what
33:44
Speaker 4: you're interested in doing, great, there's nothing wrong with that.
33:48
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that's very cool me.
33:51
Speaker 4: I just, yes, I invest, Yes, I have different things
33:54
Speaker 4: I've done, but I like making music, you know what
33:58
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, I'm good with that.
34:00
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about something you said on
34:02
Speaker 5: club Station because you got I don't know why, but
34:04
Speaker 5: you got so much flak for your def jam Mount Rushmore.
34:07
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like nobody can debate you on that,
34:10
Speaker 5: except for Russell, except for Rick ru except for Chuck
34:13
Speaker 5: d and maybe the other people on that you named. Yeah,
34:15
Speaker 5: I just wanted to know why slick Rick. I love
34:17
Speaker 5: slick Rick, but I just wanted to know from you,
34:18
Speaker 5: why did you put them on there?
34:19
Speaker 3: Because because on lot they just mad the whole list.
34:23
Speaker 4: Well, they were mad because they don't they don't understand.
34:25
Speaker 4: They want me to talk about skin and lips and hair,
34:29
Speaker 4: but they want me to ignore the bones. You know
34:33
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I gave them the bones of the label.
34:35
Speaker 4: They want to talk to me about cosmetics. But guess what,
34:38
Speaker 4: I don't care how you look. You can get fourteen
34:40
Speaker 4: bbl's thirty five lip injections, but if you don't have
34:44
Speaker 4: no bones, you're gonna be a pile of flesh over
34:45
Speaker 4: there on the floor.
34:46
Speaker 1: So that's the way I made That's how I built
34:50
Speaker 1: my mount Rushmore.
34:50
Speaker 4: So, when I said Beastie Boys and myself in public
34:54
Speaker 4: enemies slick Rick, that's because that is the foundation and
34:57
Speaker 4: the bones of the company. I didn't say that they
34:59
Speaker 4: were the more was famous. I didn't say they sold
35:02
Speaker 4: the most records. I didn't say any of that. But
35:04
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have any of that if you didn't have
35:06
Speaker 4: these these people.
35:08
Speaker 1: That was my point.
35:09
Speaker 4: So and then you have people respectfully. You know, I'm
35:13
Speaker 4: not even gonna be condescending about it there. Oh, why
35:15
Speaker 4: didn't he put Run Deem say? That's what they were?
35:17
Speaker 4: Never on Death Jam, Homie, you don't know what you're
35:19
Speaker 4: talking about. Run Deem se was on Profile records, they
35:22
Speaker 4: weren't on Death Jam. And they're my favorite group. I
35:25
Speaker 4: loved them. Of course I would have put them on there,
35:27
Speaker 4: but they weren't on Death Jam. Oh, I didn't know that.
35:29
Speaker 4: I know you didn't know that. That's why you shouldn't
35:31
Speaker 4: write on the internet so much. You know, you know
35:34
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
35:36
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
35:37
Speaker 1: So like that that was what the what the thought was.
35:41
Speaker 4: It's not that I know that other people came later
35:43
Speaker 4: and made huge strides.
35:45
Speaker 1: I know.
35:45
Speaker 4: Look, I put DMX on. I know DMX did huge
35:48
Speaker 4: numbers in those years, you know when he came out.
35:51
Speaker 4: I understand when I say put them on, I meant
35:52
Speaker 4: I didn't mean put them on period. I meant put
35:54
Speaker 4: them on my song and introduce them to the world.
35:56
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I want to be clear
35:57
Speaker 4: about that, like Foxy putting on my So I know
36:00
Speaker 4: that all of these artists that came It's obvious what
36:03
Speaker 4: death Jim became. It's I mean, that's self evident. But
36:07
Speaker 4: if you want to know how it was able to
36:09
Speaker 4: be there, you got to look at those founding fathers.
36:12
Speaker 4: This is what you gotta look at.
36:13
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
36:14
Speaker 2: Since you always you know, you're in the movies and
36:17
Speaker 2: doing that, would you do your own movie from the start,
36:20
Speaker 2: from growing up in queens and farmers and starting to
36:22
Speaker 2: rap and the battles and the beefs and everything to
36:25
Speaker 2: where you're at now?
36:26
Speaker 1: Would you do that? I mean I would.
36:28
Speaker 4: I need to be told I would, you know, I
36:31
Speaker 4: think about it sometimes people ask me that, you know,
36:37
Speaker 4: I just get a hard I have a hard time
36:39
Speaker 4: getting my mind around being that interested in me. I'm
36:42
Speaker 4: too excited about the future and too I get really
36:45
Speaker 4: excited about doing new stuff. I mean, it's probably a
36:47
Speaker 4: flaw of mine because so much history not.
36:51
Speaker 6: Too man, that's so crazy to hear, because I feel
36:52
Speaker 6: like the music, like especially music for us, for like
36:55
Speaker 6: the Ladies, it gives that you wouldn't you be the opposite,
36:58
Speaker 6: that you would be really invested in you.
37:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that see, like there's a difference between confidence
37:04
Speaker 4: and arrogance. You know what I'm saying, and you know, yeah,
37:08
Speaker 4: I'm confident, but the I just I just feel like
37:12
Speaker 4: I'm more interested in other people, you know.
37:14
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
37:15
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean I wouldn't do the movie, like
37:16
Speaker 4: I get it, like I'm open to it. I'm open
37:19
Speaker 4: to the idea of it. But what I put my
37:22
Speaker 4: energy into doing walking down that Now, maybe a documentary,
37:27
Speaker 4: you know, maybe we could, you know, but I just
37:30
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Like.
37:33
Speaker 2: Only you could tell your story and my story to story.
37:37
Speaker 3: Street stuff in there? Would you put?
37:40
Speaker 1: Oh? Man?
37:41
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I put a lot of you know, I mean,
37:44
Speaker 4: I couldn't put some stuff in it, but I put
37:46
Speaker 4: what I could, you know what I mean.
37:48
Speaker 5: It's interesting record all of the all of the people
37:50
Speaker 5: that you hear about that's really tough.
37:52
Speaker 3: Don't usally don't make.
37:54
Speaker 5: That kind of music, like and they say that about you,
37:56
Speaker 5: They say that about Nellie, they say that about it
37:58
Speaker 5: hammer are oh gz like little Sean Like they never
38:02
Speaker 5: made that kind of street music. It was always because
38:05
Speaker 5: you got sense enough to notice to get away from it.
38:07
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, man.
38:08
Speaker 4: I never met you know, every now and then you
38:12
Speaker 4: meet like a purely evil gangster. But there's not many.
38:15
Speaker 4: But I've never met a you know, somebody who was
38:18
Speaker 4: in the street life who didn't want to get away
38:20
Speaker 4: from it, who wouldn't much rather have nineteen laundromats and
38:24
Speaker 4: a dagon, the McDonald's and something else, you know what
38:27
Speaker 4: I mean. Like, so it's like you learn early on
38:30
Speaker 4: that it's about having manners and it's about not talking
38:36
Speaker 4: about that stuff. It's about staying away from that stuff.
38:39
Speaker 4: It's not about like trying to be a tough guy
38:42
Speaker 4: and you know, he thinks who he is and all that,
38:45
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean, trying to like you
38:47
Speaker 4: want to stay away from like talking about that stuff.
38:50
Speaker 4: So when I was hanging out with the dudes that
38:51
Speaker 4: was like running the city.
38:53
Speaker 1: I was I need love, you know.
38:54
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I'm like, you know what
38:57
Speaker 4: I mean, like the complete opposite, because.
39:01
Speaker 1: We do we do that. Like I'm around that for real.
39:04
Speaker 4: I don't need to you know, it just feels different
39:07
Speaker 4: when you're around it for real. You know, it really
39:09
Speaker 4: feels different, you know what I mean. It's like it's
39:13
Speaker 4: like Vietnam vets or war vets. A lot of people
39:17
Speaker 4: that really were in the military that went that were on.
39:20
Speaker 1: You know that was sore battle. They don't talk about it.
39:24
Speaker 4: Now.
39:24
Speaker 2: My apostles have to tell me nothing about.
39:27
Speaker 1: If you really notice it.
39:28
Speaker 2: If you ask, he'll your answer. But he not could
39:32
Speaker 2: come in things even be like I remember that time.
39:33
Speaker 4: Just don't and you know why, because it's not cute.
39:36
Speaker 4: It's only the cu It's only cute to the people.
39:38
Speaker 4: I think Colin Powell said only people who enjoy war,
39:44
Speaker 4: those who don't understand its horrors. I'm paraphrasing, you know
39:47
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But it's it's so it's something like that.
39:50
Speaker 4: It's like the idea of if you really seen some things,
39:53
Speaker 4: it's nothing.
39:53
Speaker 1: To talk about. Let's have some fun. Headsprung had Sprung?
40:02
Speaker 2: What is your biggest record to perform it? Is it
40:04
Speaker 2: head Sprung? Or is it Around the Way Girl? Is
40:06
Speaker 2: it doing it?
40:07
Speaker 1: It depends on the audience, depends on what country I'm in,
40:09
Speaker 1: what city with state?
40:10
Speaker 2: And what was the mind frame Around the Way Girl?
40:12
Speaker 2: Because thats probably one of my favorite. That's why aways
40:14
Speaker 2: that it just feels like a New York love story.
40:17
Speaker 4: I tell you, it's about the girl next door. It's like,
40:21
Speaker 4: as much as everybody wants it to be about the
40:26
Speaker 4: celebrity female and or the female with the money, or
40:30
Speaker 4: the female who is the.
40:32
Speaker 1: Most well known in the world.
40:35
Speaker 4: There's something I think every guy knows that there's something
40:39
Speaker 4: about the girl next door, the around the way girl
40:42
Speaker 4: that's very special. And I always had a certain reverence
40:45
Speaker 4: for that, you know what I'm saying. I ain't told
40:47
Speaker 4: my chasing with my tail between my legs. I'm just
40:50
Speaker 4: saying I had a reverence for that, Like, you know,
40:52
Speaker 4: that appealed to me. Like I didn't really, I wasn't
40:56
Speaker 4: really as interested in like the famous girl or the
40:59
Speaker 4: superstar girl, lord of the girl, even with the most nowadays,
41:03
Speaker 4: like the most followers. It was the person, a normal person,
41:07
Speaker 4: Like I just thought that was I found it more interesting,
41:12
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and quite frankly, like more attainable.
41:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like it's just.
41:21
Speaker 4: Like like I see you, you know what I'm saying,
41:25
Speaker 4: Like when I make songs like proclivity, even proclivities, even
41:28
Speaker 4: though proclivities is a much deeper layered song.
41:31
Speaker 1: And over the years people will.
41:32
Speaker 4: Realize that because I'm dipping into the shadow world of
41:35
Speaker 4: people's thoughts, It's like.
41:37
Speaker 1: I see you, you under saying.
41:39
Speaker 4: I'm saying like I see you like I'm not looking
41:42
Speaker 4: at the image of a woman. I'm not looking at
41:45
Speaker 4: the trappings. I'm looking at her soul on a round
41:49
Speaker 4: the way girl, I'm looking at her soul on proclivities.
41:51
Speaker 4: When I talk about you know, like love to see
41:55
Speaker 4: I love to see you make the old face, you know,
41:58
Speaker 4: like like that's a real thing, Like like I'm looking
42:01
Speaker 4: at a face like you know, Morphel Like I'm like,
42:03
Speaker 4: I like to see you make that face.
42:04
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know what I mean,
42:06
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy, you know.
42:08
Speaker 3: So I got a few more questions. You wrote empty
42:11
Speaker 3: lights verse on self destruction?
42:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, Yeah, yeah, Scott's tape with a raisor of
42:15
Speaker 4: blade tape to a collar.
42:16
Speaker 1: I did.
42:17
Speaker 3: How much of that did you used to do back
42:18
Speaker 3: in the day?
42:18
Speaker 1: A little bit, A little bit.
42:20
Speaker 4: I did it more than people know, you know what
42:22
Speaker 4: I'm saying, more than people know. But I wouldn't go
42:25
Speaker 4: around like talking about all the different things.
42:26
Speaker 1: But I did some of that. Yeah, I did some
42:28
Speaker 1: ghost writing for people.
42:29
Speaker 5: And when we talk about writing, I wanted to ask
42:31
Speaker 5: how much how much do you think Biggie and Jay
42:34
Speaker 5: contributed to people not taking writing it series because both
42:37
Speaker 5: of them said they didn't write.
42:39
Speaker 3: And I saw you having a conversation on Sway about Big.
42:42
Speaker 1: Well look, look well big.
42:43
Speaker 4: Look, Biggie's my man and I love Big you know
42:46
Speaker 4: sometimes and look, everybody's different.
42:48
Speaker 1: Everybody's process is different.
42:50
Speaker 4: Right, Like some people they just you know, got a
42:53
Speaker 4: bunch of rhymes that they wrote at home and they
42:55
Speaker 4: just remember them and then they just.
42:57
Speaker 1: Got something for the beat.
42:58
Speaker 4: So you don't have to see me necessarily me, right,
43:00
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean I didn't write. I'm not gonna What
43:05
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do is say anything that would go
43:08
Speaker 4: against with somebody how someone wanted their career to be
43:12
Speaker 4: laid out. But I'll say this, ultimately, it's about the
43:18
Speaker 4: song period, whether you write it in your mind, whether
43:21
Speaker 4: you memorize it, because see, you gotta remember the skill
43:26
Speaker 4: is not in how you get there. The skill is
43:28
Speaker 4: in how the song affects the world. So whether you
43:32
Speaker 4: write it on paper, a phone, in your head, that
43:36
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what the how does it affect people?
43:39
Speaker 1: Did the ball go in the basket.
43:42
Speaker 4: Whether I called it chucked it, whether I you know,
43:45
Speaker 4: fade away, whether.
43:46
Speaker 1: I finger slammed it, reverse slammed it.
43:49
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But like I've seen dudes write,
43:54
Speaker 4: and I've seen dudes.
43:55
Speaker 1: You know, come off the top. I mean whatever, you
43:57
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't.
43:59
Speaker 4: What I would say is that, Like I would say,
44:03
Speaker 4: like like these guys are legitimately talented enough, some of
44:07
Speaker 4: them to do that. That doesn't mean you necessarily need
44:10
Speaker 4: to be doing that. You might need a penny pad,
44:12
Speaker 4: you might want a Pennan pad and do some editing.
44:15
Speaker 1: Ernest Hemingway editing, It's all right, Like, don't be embarrassed,
44:19
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Who wrote for who? The
44:22
Speaker 1: bell told?
44:25
Speaker 4: Huh no no no, not the song metallic No no,
44:30
Speaker 4: the Raven? Who wrote the Raven? Huh noed So it's
44:35
Speaker 4: like you got Ernest Hemingway, you got Edgar Allan Poe.
44:39
Speaker 4: They wrote, hm, they edited. So there's no shame in writing.
44:46
Speaker 4: But if you are able to do it without it,
44:48
Speaker 4: fine me. I like to write. I want to be
44:50
Speaker 4: able to look at what I wrote and change it
44:52
Speaker 4: and edit it until I like it.
44:54
Speaker 1: Period.
44:55
Speaker 4: Can I come up with something like? Could I come
44:56
Speaker 4: up with something in my head right now? Of course
44:58
Speaker 4: I could. Of course, you know what I mean.
45:02
Speaker 5: And you was on the shop and you you was
45:04
Speaker 5: talk about Andre dree Dowland saying he didn't want to
45:07
Speaker 5: rap again because he said he didn't have anything to
45:08
Speaker 5: rap about. Yeah, and so Andre responded to that and said,
45:13
Speaker 5: if you can, you should rap until you die.
45:14
Speaker 3: Of course he has things to say, but if he.
45:16
Speaker 5: Can't say it in a fresh innovative way, then it's
45:18
Speaker 5: not enough of him to do it.
45:19
Speaker 4: And I respect that. I respect that, I respect that,
45:21
Speaker 4: and you know that in that sense, I would agree.
45:24
Speaker 4: That's but that's what I look to do on my
45:27
Speaker 4: new record, right like on the Force, like say it
45:29
Speaker 4: in a fresh, innovative way. He's talking about, not repeating flow. Look,
45:32
Speaker 4: he's one of the greats. He's unbelievable. Like I'm thoroughly
45:35
Speaker 4: impressed with Andre. And the only reason I even said
45:39
Speaker 4: anything is because I like him so much as an artist.
45:41
Speaker 1: I love to hear him again. I just mishearing the guy,
45:44
Speaker 1: you know what I'm.
45:44
Speaker 4: Saying, Like, I want to hear Outcasts, Like personally, I
45:46
Speaker 4: would love to hear an Outcasts album. I don't know
45:48
Speaker 4: about the world, but I would want to hear that,
45:50
Speaker 4: but I do respect his feelings and I cannot speak
45:55
Speaker 4: to his artistry.
45:56
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying has lyrics, I don't.
45:58
Speaker 5: I don't know if his lyricism has lyricism peaked, Like
46:00
Speaker 5: I don't know if there is any more flows?
46:02
Speaker 3: Are there any more deliveries? Like how many more ways
46:05
Speaker 3: can you deliver?
46:06
Speaker 1: There's always a way.
46:07
Speaker 4: That's like, you know, just when you thought every single
46:10
Speaker 4: patient was done, I mean, Miles came and changed the game.
46:13
Speaker 4: Charlie Parker came and changed the game. You know, we
46:16
Speaker 4: can go half notes, quarter notes, eighth notes. I mean,
46:18
Speaker 4: there's always a way to change and approach it differently, you.
46:22
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. There's always a way too, you know,
46:25
Speaker 1: it's up to you. Though. It's combinations.
46:26
Speaker 4: It's like, uh, it's like flavors, right, there's only bit
46:30
Speaker 4: of sugar, salt, blah blah blah blah blah. But you
46:32
Speaker 4: got at the end of the day, there's always a
46:34
Speaker 4: different way to make a good meal, you know what
46:36
Speaker 4: I mean, You can always get another great meal.
46:37
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
46:40
Speaker 4: I mean, like some of the stuff EM's doing on
46:42
Speaker 4: my new song, some of the tripling that's new kind
46:44
Speaker 4: of newish stuff on Murder Graham Do.
46:46
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it.
46:47
Speaker 4: Even the flow I did on Murder Graham Do is like,
46:50
Speaker 4: you know, there's some new moments in it.
46:52
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
46:52
Speaker 6: She said earlier, Yeah, I was like where because I
46:54
Speaker 6: was like, how do you play this in the car?
46:56
Speaker 7: Like where do you listen?
46:56
Speaker 3: When she's young? So what she said was what she said,
47:00
Speaker 3: he goes he don't sound old because.
47:03
Speaker 6: Because one of them in the room said that it
47:05
Speaker 6: sounds old. And when I heard it, I said, this
47:07
Speaker 6: doesn't sound old. It sounds like what I know him
47:09
Speaker 6: to sound like. But then I said, but where do
47:11
Speaker 6: you play this? Because like I don't know if I
47:13
Speaker 6: would play this in the car? Well yeah, but like
47:15
Speaker 6: but music, like songs go places with you. I can't
47:18
Speaker 6: describe it, like I know where I'm gonna put on
47:21
Speaker 6: like around the Way girl, like I know what my
47:23
Speaker 6: outfit is? I with that song, I couldn't figure it out.
47:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, that's good. That good because it's new.
47:34
Speaker 4: I remember the first time I heard Planet Rock by
47:37
Speaker 4: Africa band Bady in the Zulu Nation. I didn't understand it.
47:41
Speaker 4: I told my man, my man, was that he played
47:42
Speaker 4: planning around, Like, I don't like that. He said, why,
47:44
Speaker 4: it's because it's different.
47:46
Speaker 1: You catch up it not like it I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: But you're not saying a bad thing. You're not saying
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Speaker 1: a bad thing at all.
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Speaker 4: It's like it's it's actually and truly that's not It's
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Speaker 4: really not a car record. That's not what it is.
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Speaker 4: It's a live performance record. It's a record that shows
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Speaker 4: the display of MC's showing lyrical skill. It's a record
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Speaker 4: that shows you the art form of rapping. That's really
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Speaker 4: what the song is about. Now, Proclivity's I could play
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Speaker 4: in a car. I could play Proclivities in a car.
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Speaker 4: I could play Black Cold Sweet at a cookout. I
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Speaker 4: could play you know, some of those records, some of
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Speaker 4: them are car rights because I love car wrecks. Like
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Speaker 4: I made a song called Booming System a long time ago.
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Speaker 4: It was a car record. I'm very familiar with the difference,
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Speaker 4: but that particular song, You're right, it's not for the
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Speaker 4: car it's for those who really are fans of hip
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Speaker 4: hop and fans of the art of hip hop.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's like watching and one.
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Speaker 4: It's like watching basketball players get busy with the ball
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Speaker 4: and do things that you didn't even know they were
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Speaker 4: capable of doing with a basketball.
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Speaker 6: That's what that song, and that's kind of lost on
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Speaker 6: like the artists that I love, because I feel like
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Speaker 6: when I hear a new song, what makes it go
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Speaker 6: for me? Like when you mentioning Glorella, first thing I
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Speaker 6: think of is like putting it on in a car,
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Speaker 6: on in the club, and it I don't yet. I
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Speaker 6: don't get the sportsmanship, yes.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, and that's my and that's okay too, right. It's
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Speaker 4: like that's the beauty of it. It's like we need both,
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Speaker 4: we need the vibru. That's why I made like heads wrong,
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Speaker 4: Heads Wrong. At that time was that kind of thing
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Speaker 4: you're describing. It was just silly, a vibe. We're just
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Speaker 4: getting it me and Timbo to win the studio. We're
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Speaker 4: making a wild out. I get it. But there's a
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Speaker 4: time for that and then there's a time for the
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Speaker 4: other thing. So on this album, it's like a combination.
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Speaker 4: There's some songs that are like that, but then there
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Speaker 4: are other songs where it is really more about lyrics,
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Speaker 4: rapping the sportsmanship that you say you couldn't relate to
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Speaker 4: as much and that kind of stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of like the whole idea. The whole idea is.
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Speaker 4: For you to make unique things, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: unique stuff, and then we get the vibes and we
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Speaker 4: dance the glow really and we dance is sexy red
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Speaker 4: like I love the record.
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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, Hey, what's your favorite record out of all
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Speaker 2: your catalog?
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Speaker 1: Heads? Clearly? Yeah, I like Heads Broke. I use.
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Speaker 4: Like it's a few songs. I think Doing It is
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Speaker 4: one of my favorite classics. I think doing It, you
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You can you can.
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Speaker 6: Relate that that song song that works in the car,
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Speaker 6: that works anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Oh I know, yeah, yeah I know that. Yeah, I know,
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Doing You a Scratched did to oh Ilbomb?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I like Ilbomb. I like Ilbomb. I'll tell you this
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Speaker 4: one I got with Nas is crazy. The praise the
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Speaker 4: joint is wild. It's hip hop, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: But it's it's It's right. There's a lot of joints.
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Speaker 4: Thirty Decembers. I like thirty December, like black hold a lot,
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Speaker 4: black Hole, black Hole, sweet as you know, look at
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Speaker 4: Mama she in the kitchen chicken dipping the chicken, the
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Speaker 4: flower you got, the music is bumping well, two steps
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Speaker 4: in the shower, well balanced, potato salad, the hot soul
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Speaker 4: collar green.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that joint is high. Yeah yeah, yeah, that black coach.
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Speaker 4: Joe.
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Speaker 5: I got one last question, sir, and I would ask
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Speaker 5: Lebron this too. Is it easier or harder to do
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Speaker 5: what you do in this case music when you have
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Speaker 5: nothing to prove or do you feel like or do
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Speaker 5: you feel like you have something to prove?
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Speaker 4: I definitely feel like I have something to prove. Wow, definitely,
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Speaker 4: because the proof to what I'm looking to prove is
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Speaker 4: that you could keep going. And you know, you gotta
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Speaker 4: to keep going. You gotta come from the heart, you
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Speaker 4: gotta come from the soul, and.
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Speaker 1: You can't.
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Speaker 4: You can't swag your way into forty years of success.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna take more than that, right, you know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying. And so, yeah, I definitely got something to prove.
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Speaker 4: I definitely look at this as a as a as
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Speaker 4: a fun challenge. It's a fun challenge, you know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like, Yo, can you do it? You
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? You know, well, I ever have
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Speaker 4: another song where she's like, oh, this is my joint.
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Speaker 4: I'm turned up in the car, like can I do that?
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Speaker 4: Is that possible?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 4: Those are the questions that you know you look to answer.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the part that
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Speaker 4: makes this thing like.
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Speaker 1: Worth doing? You know what I'm saying. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's get into a joint off the album. The
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Speaker 2: album is out today.
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Speaker 1: It's called Force.
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Speaker 2: What you want to hear?
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Speaker 4: Well, you know I need to look at them. I
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Speaker 4: need to see the track listen. Okay, yeah, let me
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Speaker 4: see the track listen.
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Speaker 1: Hmmm hmmm.
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Speaker 3: Murder grads just because of her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's play murder grad. Let's play murder. I'm playing
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Speaker 1: murder graph Murder feature. We appreciate you for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate and how used to work out every day?
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Speaker 1: I do well four times a week minimum.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell me one day you get on the
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Speaker 2: gym with love.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm good, And I work out with him. I
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Speaker 3: trained with him his.
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Speaker 2: Work out one day. Just I did it one day
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Speaker 2: and I almost threw up.
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Speaker 1: I think I threw up. You might have. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I threw up. He does some weird ish man like.
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Speaker 3: Like you don't. He does what he does. You should
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Speaker 3: have did what you do?
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Speaker 7: You know what Jim ever saw you come in? When
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Speaker 7: did that.
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Speaker 1: Say this with me? Murder ground, murder ground. There you go. Breakfast,
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Speaker 1: wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.