Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Louis Jeansonne, Chief Medical Information Officer at Ochsner Health
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- 0:29This is Gracelyn Keller with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:31Podcast, and we are live at the 9th
- 0:33annual health IT, digital health, and RCM conference.
- 0:37I'm currently joined by Louis John Son, who
- 0:40is the chief medical information officer at Ochsner
- 0:43Health. So, Louis, thanks so much for joining
- 0:45me today, and I'd love to get us
- 0:47started by having you introduce yourself and tell
- 0:49us a little bit more about your background.
- 0:52Sure. Thanks for having me. I'm a general
- 0:54surgeon, by training, but now I am in
- 0:57the CMIO role at Ochsner, Ochsner, and I've
- 0:58been there for, 16 years.
- 1:01And,
- 1:02I was originally involved in started to get
- 1:05involved in health care leadership
- 1:06around 2012.
- 1:08And then in 2019, I transitioned to the
- 1:11the IT world, and I've been in the
- 1:12CMIO role since 2020.
- 1:15Wonderful. Well, thanks for being here. And I'd
- 1:17love to start our conversation today with AI
- 1:20adoption. So this is exploding right now in
- 1:23health care. In your view, what is the
- 1:25most significant or promising application of AI right
- 1:26now, and how is that informing your organization's
- 1:26innovation strategy?
- 1:29Forming your organization's innovation strategy?
- 1:34Yes. I think right now, as as far
- 1:36as what's what's had the biggest impact
- 1:38is ambient
- 1:40technology.
- 1:41You know, I was just talking to a
- 1:43physician this week who is extremely proficient with
- 1:47technology, extremely proficient in the EMR.
- 1:49But
- 1:51e even with that, the, ambient technology was
- 1:53saving her about an hour a day. And
- 1:56she told me that she, you you know,
- 1:58was no longer having to kind of redo
- 2:00her clinic in her mind every day,
- 2:03because it was catching all these these details
- 2:04that you would have to go back and
- 2:05remember. So even for someone that was that
- 2:07was very efficient to begin with, it was
- 2:09still saving an hour. We've seen
- 2:11lots and lots of similar stories. I'm sure
- 2:13you've heard as well, of people who have
- 2:15been affected like that. And that's
- 2:16a a really big deal, you know, when
- 2:18you talk about
- 2:19just,
- 2:20you know, there are a finite number of
- 2:22hours in the day. People have limited free
- 2:23time. Getting an an extra hour is huge
- 2:26for people. So I think that's what's had
- 2:27the biggest impact so far. And I think
- 2:30as far as what's more promising, you know,
- 2:32what what I initially found more exciting was
- 2:35kind of the generative
- 2:36AI applications where they're generating content, for example,
- 2:39creating drafts to in basket messages.
- 2:42But,
- 2:43you know, if you look at at some
- 2:44of the other things that are coming in
- 2:45terms of summaries, and they, you know, I
- 2:48initially thought summaries weren't really as exciting. But
- 2:50if you look at the ability to customize
- 2:52a a summary of the patient chart and
- 2:54tell it that you want, you you know,
- 2:56to look back 3 months or you want
- 2:58a 1 paragraph or a 2 paragraph,
- 3:00or a bulleted list of the patient's chart
- 3:02and you wanna know you know, focus on
- 3:04labs and not as much on vitals and
- 3:06tell it kind of tailor it to what
- 3:08you want. I think that has the potential
- 3:09to save people a lot of time as
- 3:11well.
- 3:12And let's shift gears a little bit toward
- 3:14data.
- 3:15With the, you know,
- 3:17great volume of data that we're seeing now
- 3:20that we're integrating
- 3:21all of these different AI technologies and innovations,
- 3:25I'd like for you to kinda go in
- 3:26a little more detail about the different types
- 3:28of data and how these, play a role
- 3:30in the overall health care.
- 3:33Yes. We we do use a massive amount
- 3:35of data, and, you know, everyone has their
- 3:37their their different dashboards and and data sources
- 3:40that they use, the data integration tools. We
- 3:42have we have all that. We have great
- 3:44dashboards. But I think just as important as
- 3:46as having the data is how you you
- 3:48explain the data to people and explain the
- 3:50why behind why it's important. And I think
- 3:52that, you know, we have we have clinical
- 3:54data, and then we have kind of efficiency
- 3:57data that we look at in terms of
- 3:58how how much time people are spending in
- 4:00EMR, whether they might be struggling. And I
- 4:02think as a CMIO, we spend a lot
- 4:04of time
- 4:05explaining a lot of the the technical data
- 4:07to to physicians or or, you know, helping
- 4:09physicians with with the EMR and things like
- 4:11that. But I think the the reverse is
- 4:13also important in terms of explaining
- 4:15the why behind the clinical data to some
- 4:17of the IT staff, which may not have
- 4:19the clinical background. So I I always focus
- 4:22on that and try to go over all
- 4:23of our clinical data, you know, our metrics,
- 4:25how we're doing on
- 4:27hypertension control, diabetes control, and those population health
- 4:30metrics and explain to to everyone
- 4:32why those are important. Why does it matter
- 4:34that someone has a normal blood pressure, a
- 4:36normal blood sugar, and and how it impacts
- 4:37their health so that everyone understands
- 4:40what we're all working towards and why we're
- 4:41doing what we're doing.
- 4:43100%.
- 4:44And as we talk about greater volumes of
- 4:46data, all these different types, and then we're
- 4:49adding adoption of new technologies into the mix,
- 4:52our IT staff becomes significantly more burdened.
- 4:55So I'd love to hear how you think
- 4:57health care organizations can better support both our
- 5:00IT and and clinical teams as well as
- 5:02they carry
- 5:03out innovation efforts. And if you've seen any
- 5:06pitfalls in this.
- 5:08I think health care organizations can help their
- 5:11IT team by,
- 5:12by providing clear prioritization.
- 5:15I think that's that's really the most important
- 5:17thing. That's something we put a lot of
- 5:18time and effort into, because if you I'm
- 5:21sure you've heard people say, if everything's a
- 5:22priority, then nothing is a priority. And
- 5:25you have to be clear with people about
- 5:27what what do you wanna do and what
- 5:28are you not gonna do? Because you can't
- 5:29you can't do everything. And people have lots
- 5:31and lots of great ideas. And it's not
- 5:33really about how great the idea is. It's
- 5:35more about what do we have the capacity
- 5:37to do? And what if we think this
- 5:39idea is high priority, what are we going
- 5:41to divert resources from and stop doing so
- 5:44that we can do that instead? So we
- 5:45work a lot with our operational leaders and
- 5:47our clinical leaders and our service lines to
- 5:49determine
- 5:50what are your top 3 or your top
- 5:525,
- 5:53priorities. And and you have to sometimes
- 5:55make a lot of difficult decisions to determine
- 5:57that, but I think it's really important so
- 5:58that everyone knows, you know, what what their
- 6:00focus should be.
- 6:02And as we wrap up our conversation
- 6:04today, I'd love to know your top piece
- 6:06of advice for health care leaders as they
- 6:08prepare for further advancements in
- 6:10technology and greater demands for care.
- 6:16My advice for health care leaders would be
- 6:19to be willing and ready to to pivot,
- 6:22and change force because I think you you
- 6:24never can predict what's coming. I think if
- 6:27someone had made a
- 6:28in 2019, it made a 5 year plan
- 6:30of of of what they thought was gonna
- 6:32happen. I I don't think it it would
- 6:33bear any resemblance to what really happened over
- 6:35the the past 5 years. I think that
- 6:37will continue to be to be true. I
- 6:39think there will continue to be to be
- 6:41challenges and changes, and you have to you
- 6:44have to be willing to change for us
- 6:45and be willing to learn,
- 6:47in order to adapt to to whatever's next.
- 6:50Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for joining
- 6:52me today, Louis, on that Becker's healthcare podcast.
- 6:55Again, we are live at the 9th annual
- 6:57health IT, digital health, and RCM conference.
- 7:01Thank you.