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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - The Story of Alex Gazan and the Gummy · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to the original
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  sunday sunday sunday night
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  crossfit talk my name is
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  scott switzer we got jamie
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  latimer we got carolyn
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  privo we're here every
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  sunday night where we break
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  it all down everything
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  that's happened in the week
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  and we start to preview
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  what's happening in the
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  next week and that's going
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  to be a lot of what is
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  tonight is a preview of
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  next week but we will hit
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  what happened last week
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  before we dive into all of that
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  What is going on, Kenneth, Clintus,
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  Meredith, Craig, Ken, Edging, Fergie,
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  everybody.
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  So awesome to be here.
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  I think that's everything on the welcome.
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  I had my twenty eighth
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  wedding anniversary yesterday.
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  Congratulations.
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  Congrats.
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  Never in my wildest dreams.
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  I think I would get to twenty eight years,
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  you know, with one person.
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  It is.
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  it's just wild um and we um
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  we went and had a nice
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  lunch at a place called
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  liberty tavern here it's a
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  new like upscale pub type
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  thing really really nice um
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  lots of outdoor seating and
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  it was a beautiful day
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  yesterday and julie has
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  been kind of cooped up with
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  the knee surgery so she
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  just wanted to be outside
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  so we did that and then
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  Today we kind of finished off everything.
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  We went to the dog park with
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  Walter and kind of sat
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  outside and our dog park is
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  right by the lake.
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  So you get kind of the water
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  and the sunshine and all of that stuff.
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  Um, and it was really, really nice, but,
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  um,
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  twenty years married and we dated for
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  four and a half years
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  before we got married.
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  Wow.
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  So we've been together way longer than, um,
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  half of my life.
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  That's awesome.
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  something to be celebrated
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  these days for sure.
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  Um,
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  I know that a lot of people were drawn
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  to the grid league match
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  this weekend because of John young,
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  but Carolyn,
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  I have a mutual friend who
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  also competed in the grid
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  league this weekend.
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  And that was Lauren Olson
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  who is on John's team.
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  Did you guys catch any of the match?
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  I did not.
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  I caught probably half of the matches,
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  and then I didn't watch the end of it,
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  and I never got back to re-watching it.
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  I watched it from the spin cast.
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  I was wondering where it was.
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  I know they also had another part,
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  but... It's on the United
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  Grid League YouTube page, too.
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  It's a wild broadcast.
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  It is very much in the style
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  of like John Young's
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  broadcasting as opposed to
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  like a Sean Woodland type broadcasting.
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  But I was really impressed
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  with our friend Lauren.
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  She looked so strong like that.
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  The other athletes were not
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  doing as well with the
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  strength pieces that she was.
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  I just was I was I just felt
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  so much pride and joy for our friend.
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  And I texted her afterwards to tell her,
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  like, how awesome she was.
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  And and she said she's so
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  glad she said yes,
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  because she had she had so
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  much fun doing it.
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  Yeah.
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  When she was doing the thrusters,
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  she was fast.
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  I like their, uh,
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  their graphics were good.
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  Like it was, um,
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  very clear on like what it
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  was like your athletes have
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  to stand and these hash
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  marks for your reps to count.
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  If they're not there, you get a penalty.
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  It happens very fast though.
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  Like some of the matches are so short.
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  Like if you go in, I don't know,
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  go to your kitchen and grab
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  something to drink,
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  you come back and like,
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  there's a match that's done.
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  You're like, Oh,
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  They have these things
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  called like ringer points
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  that take literally like thirty seconds.
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  It seems like I'm sure it's
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  more than that.
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  It's probably like a minute
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  or two minutes or something,
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  but it just goes like so fast.
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  Did she get the only win for the team?
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  I don't know if she ever went solo.
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  Okay.
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  But she she never like
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  faulted on anything.
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  That's awesome.
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  And from her stories,
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  it looked like she had a
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  lot of fun because I think
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  it's her first time doing grid.
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  It is.
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  So it looked like, you know,
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  whether the team didn't
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  perform as well as they wanted,
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  they at least, you know,
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  made a good weekend.
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  Well,
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  and the other thing you have to
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  realize is that team is like all rookies.
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  Yeah.
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  that she's on and John's on.
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  And they went up against
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  like this super team of two
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  teams that folded and formed one team.
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  And they won the championship last year.
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  So they were going up
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  against the best in the league.
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  I am no grid expert by any means.
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  I just listened to the commentary.
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  but they I thought they held
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  their own against them
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  there were times they were
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  leading in events and they
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  would just get like out
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  touched at the end or
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  And the commentators were saying, like,
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  the Houston team,
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  which is Lauren and John's team,
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  just their transitions
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  weren't as fast as the
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  other team because they
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  just haven't done that style before,
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  right?
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  So, yeah,
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  I think they're going to be fine
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  in this league going forward,
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  but this was their first
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  match ever as a team.
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  Houston is an expansion team, essentially.
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  I mean,
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  none of these people really even
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  get to practice together, right?
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  They're all, all over.
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  So yeah,
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  it's going to be hard to do some
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  of those transitions if you
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  just meeting up with people
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  for the first time.
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  There's a workout where you
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  can never put the barbell on the ground.
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  The women have to front rack
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  and the men have to back rack.
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  They carry it to the next station.
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  There's that too.
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  There are elements that you
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  could technically add in
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  our team division stuff.
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  Some of the standards are
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  different than what we have in our sport.
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  Um,
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  I'm not even sure what is their
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  standard or, and whatnot.
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  So sometimes like as a
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  CrossFit athlete looking, you're like,
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  Ooh, but like, again, they have,
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  they have different rules.
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  So like by their rules, it counts.
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  Yeah.
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  We just,
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  we just have different styles of
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  doing it.
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  That's the hardest part of watching.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, to be honest, it just is,
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  it's just a different standard.
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  It's not what I'm used to seeing.
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  It looks rough at times,
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  but if it's their standard
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  and what they count,
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  so but yeah it was fun for
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  like we had nothing going
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  on this weekend um from a
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  crossfit standpoint so like
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  it was fun to tune in for a
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  weekend and see my friends
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  competing um I know kelsey
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  keel was participating for
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  the first time ever this weekend too
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  didn't get to her match it
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  was one of the later
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  because they run them back
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  to back in the same arena
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  okay so just and they're
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  only like an hour to an
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  hour and fifteen minutes
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  long each I think an hour
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  fifteen so it's just like
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  you do one set up for the
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  next one the next one the
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  next one and they run four
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  matches back to back is
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  kelsey on the sharks too or
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  different sharks yeah okay
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  I think is dana on that one brand
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  as well I I didn't get to
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  those matches at all I just
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  saw kelsey's story yeah she
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  had she had a really good
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  time so I'll have to go
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  back and watch some of them
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  did I see um that you already got murphin
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  We did Murph as a gym yesterday.
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  Yep.
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  Three heats.
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  And then we do a barbecue at
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  the gym after in the afternoon.
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  So that was a good, really good day.
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  It was only like fifty,
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  maybe fifty five degrees here.
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  Man,
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  we haven't had a... It's been hot for
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  Murph the last few years.
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  Yeah.
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  This is a colder end of May for my region.
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  There was something that
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  said it's the coldest end
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  of May since like, yeah.
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  I don't remember a Murph being this cold.
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  I remember there's been some rainy days,
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  but...
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  It was definitely cooler,
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  which made the run nice.
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  You weren't dying out there.
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  Last year, I did the games version,
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  the five-rounder.
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  Last year, I did it that way.
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  This year,
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  I just wanted to see if I was
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  fitter than I have.
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  I feel fitter than I have in the past.
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  I was like, let's see if I can PR.
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  I did it straight through.
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  You did it on
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  unpartitioned yep straight
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  through pr'd how long that
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  take you forty four oh
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  seven oh six I was happy
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  with it runs were like
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  seven forty five some fifty
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  and then like eight eight
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  ten eight twelve yeah yeah
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  I uh I'm gonna do it tomorrow
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  I have an eight hundred meter loop,
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  so I'm going to walk half of it,
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  like little jog, a half walk,
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  and then I'm going to bike
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  the other half.
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  Okay.
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  And then, and then do it through.
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  Will you,
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  will you do like Cindy style or
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  you'll do it on partition?
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  Cindy style for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  Doing that many pushups in a row.
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  Like once I fail pushups, they're gone.
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  So like if I did them any other way,
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  I would, I'd be done early.
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  Lucas did the micro rounds,
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  the thirty three rounds of three, six,
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  nine, and then one round of one, two,
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  three at the end.
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  He's never he has never completed Murph.
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  uh he's always done like had
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  to like if you like I think
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  last year he's done did
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  tried the twenty rounds and
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  only got through like
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  fifteen rounds I was like
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  just stop go run like he
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  was already at like eighty
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  minutes or whatever I'm
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  like just stop there so he
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  did the whole darn thing
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  this year and crushed it
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  was like I don't know sixty
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  two minutes I'm so proud of
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  him when was the last time
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  you did it scott
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  um I did it last year but I
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  I did a scaled version like
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  a half maybe because I had
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  I hadn't done it in a few
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  years I did it last weekend
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  because that's when we do
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  it like in canada um yeah I
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  hadn't done it in maybe two
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  or three years because most
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  of the time I competed
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  semis that weekend yeah
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  uh-huh um so last year it
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  had been like five years for me
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  Yeah.
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  Or it was like the weekend before.
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  And I was like, no, I have to like,
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  you're practicing wads that
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  I've come out and stuff.
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  So it's like,
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  it hasn't worked out the last
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  few years for me to do it there.
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  So normally I either do it
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  like in the summer.
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  I don't know the time, but yeah.
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  Did you do it straight through?
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  No, I did ten rounds.
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  Okay.
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  Ten rounds of.
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  Ten, twenty, thirty.
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  Ten, twenty, thirty.
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  Yeah.
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  I hadn't done that version before.
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  But I did.
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  feet elevated ring row.
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  Okay.
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  Yup.
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  Um,
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  cause I didn't do any hanging this week
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  was the first week I did any hanging.
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  I started Friday was the
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  first day I did any hanging
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  and over basically three
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  weeks and like my shoulders
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  are so sore and I don't
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  really have too much shoulder problems.
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  Like,
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  but like just not kipping and opening
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  up and I'm like, Oh,
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  like I've just had felt
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  crunchy all weekend in the shoulders.
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  So that leads to this comment.
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  Meredith says,
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  is there any update on
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  Carolyn's fingernail biopsy?
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  I too have sensitive skin on my hands.
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  It reacts a lot to a lot of
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  things I touch.
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  I'm curious if they gave her a diagnosis.
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  They emailed me a bunch of
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  thingies from the biopsy,
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  but I meet with the doctor June second.
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  So following Monday.
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  Yeah.
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  He's a busy man, but he's like, yeah,
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  he's a nail specialist.
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  So hopefully he'll begin to
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  treat me to try to get rid of this.
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  But yeah,
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  it does get pretty sensitive on
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  certain materials like rope
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  climbs and barbell.
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  If I've touched for a while,
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  like I need to put grips on
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  or it just like it's burning.
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  Kenneth says,
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  I like the ten round version.
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  I tried the ten-round version, like,
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  early on in my CrossFit career.
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  And I just bogged down in the push-ups.
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  Like, I'm good at push-ups.
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  Like, I do good push-ups.
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  But I just hit a point where
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  then they just bogged down.
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  I'm doing, like, singles.
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  And, like, so it's really trying to, like,
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  find a groove of those that
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  I can continue through.
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  And so the Cindy just works better.
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  Do you do ring rows?
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  Yes.
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  I will this year for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  I've done it.
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  Like when I did my version, I was like,
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  Ooh, the ring was, were tough.
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  Cause like I put the feet
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  elevated just cause just to
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  challenge myself more, but yeah.
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  Just making it more strict
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  like that was different
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  because my pull-ups are really good,
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  so normally I can just fly through that.
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  For me,
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  it's just a push-up and how fast do
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  I run.
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  Those push-ups are tough,
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  but the pull-ups I'm
• 15:05
  normally pretty good when I kick.
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  I've never done un-partitioned,
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  so one of these days I will.
• 15:12
  Lex did it un-partitioned this weekend,
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  I think, so maybe next year I'll do it.
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  Ken does ten rounds if he's
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  without a vest.
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  He does twenty rounds if he does a vest.
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  Meredith says,
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  I set up a tent this weekend
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  to camp over Memorial Day.
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  My hands were not happy.
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  Yeah.
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  I learned early on in my marriage,
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  my twenty eight wonderful
• 15:41
  years of marriage,
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  that camping would not be
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  in my future much.
• 15:45
  We tried that once and then twice.
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  And both times my wife ended
• 15:51
  up leaving and going home.
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  Yeah, like actual tent camping.
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  Correct.
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  Yeah.
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  Not my favorite either.
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  We have a travel trailer.
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  I can I can handle that.
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  I don't even think she could
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  handle that I like it it's
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  all the comforts of home
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  yeah I don't know um it's
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  this isn't on our rundown
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  but my daughter called last
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  night and she's she's
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  actually doing hard right
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  now uh-huh so they in that
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  you have to do one um
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  outdoor activity as
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  exercise she did a
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  three-hour hike yesterday wow
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  in the in the mountains for
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  the first time since she's
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  been out in montana and
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  just absolutely loved it
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  that's awesome um so it's
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  fun to she's she is the
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  happiest she has been since
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  high school um this move
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  has been awesome for her uh
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  justin collard now if I
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  like camping in front of
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  the fire at the ritz
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  carlton yeah yeah that's
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  that's our style now too
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  All right, so now just in the chat,
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  I guess we're going to dive
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  into the Alex Kazan situation.
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  You want to touch on this
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  comment from Emma?
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  Emma.
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  I saw it.
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  I took note of it.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  She wants to have Haley, Mario,
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  and Joshua.
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  I'd love to have them on.
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  They're great people.
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  I'll reach out if they're
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  willing to come on.
• 17:31
  Right.
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  I do agree with her.
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  If there's going to be a platform,
• 17:34
  they do speak up on that.
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  I think this would be a
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  really good place for them to do that.
• 17:42
  Yeah.
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  I'm betting they will not talk about it.
• 17:45
  I would bet not either.
• 17:47
  In all of my dealings with them,
• 17:49
  they're very professional
• 17:51
  and I don't think they're
• 17:52
  going to talk about it.
• 17:53
  Do they help coach Brooke at all?
• 17:58
  And this is what we're talking about,
• 17:59
  just so you guys know.
• 18:00
  Emma's asking if I would
• 18:02
  have Haley and Josh Murillo on again.
• 18:05
  And the reason is,
• 18:06
  I feel like if they were
• 18:07
  ever to share what happened
• 18:09
  between them and Haley,
• 18:10
  this would be the podcast
• 18:11
  where they would do it.
• 18:14
  Maybe they would, but I don't know.
• 18:17
  I don't know if they ever would.
• 18:19
  I just don't think that's them.
• 18:21
  And I feel like even if
• 18:24
  something did happen,
• 18:25
  they're moving on from that
• 18:26
  situation and are
• 18:29
  one year removed from it and
• 18:30
  have moved yeah I've moved
• 18:33
  on so I'm not even sure
• 18:33
  that they would even want
• 18:34
  to touch that surface again
• 18:36
  and bring that back to
• 18:38
  social media yeah I mean
• 18:39
  I've talked to haley about
• 18:40
  it in private and she won't
• 18:43
  even give details right so
• 18:45
  I don't think public public
• 18:47
  forum gets us any further
• 18:50
  so um so yeah all right so
• 18:56
  this week we had
• 18:59
  admitted gummy gait taken at
• 19:03
  the WFP where Alex Kazam
• 19:07
  was on Talking Elite
• 19:08
  Fitness said in a comment
• 19:10
  that she had taken a gummy
• 19:12
  to help her sleep and that
• 19:14
  it does or could include
• 19:17
  THC up to two milligrams or
• 19:20
  something of that nature.
• 19:24
  She then went to will after
• 19:25
  the competition was completed and
• 19:28
  and said hey I did this and
• 19:31
  will said it's okay we've
• 19:32
  taken that out you don't
• 19:34
  need to worry about that
• 19:38
  that has created um a crazy
• 19:43
  stir of events all week um
• 19:45
  I have made comments on my
• 19:47
  lunch with the clydesdale
• 19:48
  but I wanted to get your
• 19:50
  two opinion on this if you care to share
• 19:56
  I just don't – I mean, yeah,
• 19:58
  it seems like it's been
• 19:59
  handled through the WFP,
• 20:00
  but if it's a banned
• 20:02
  substance in CrossFit, it's – I mean,
• 20:06
  I feel like she's opened up
• 20:07
  a can of worms here.
• 20:08
  And they've sort of – It's
• 20:10
  only a banned substance in
• 20:11
  competition in CrossFit.
• 20:14
  Yeah, out of competition, it's allowed.
• 20:19
  In competition, it's not allowed.
• 20:24
  I see.
• 20:25
  And then WFP removed the in competition.
• 20:29
  Yeah.
• 20:29
  Gotcha.
• 20:32
  Yeah.
• 20:32
  It's just that part,
• 20:32
  which a lot of other
• 20:34
  professional sports teams
• 20:36
  have been slowly starting
• 20:37
  to remove because it's been an issue.
• 20:41
  I think in the professional sports, um,
• 20:45
  I think it's good that they,
• 20:48
  at least as soon as it happened,
• 20:50
  like we'll put out a statement.
• 20:52
  Now,
• 20:52
  I don't know how much of that was
• 20:55
  actually communicated to
• 20:56
  the athletes in March.
• 20:58
  Like, I don't know.
• 20:59
  It wasn't March or.
• 21:02
  Yeah.
• 21:03
  Like, I don't like that part.
• 21:04
  It seems like.
• 21:06
  That they, they removed it in March.
• 21:10
  And apparently a lot of
• 21:12
  people have done research.
• 21:13
  There was no communication
• 21:15
  with the athletes at all
• 21:18
  until Alex asked after this competition.
• 21:21
  But like, I think that should be, if,
• 21:22
  if that did happen,
• 21:23
  that they removed it in
• 21:24
  March and that's an if,
• 21:26
  because I don't believe
• 21:27
  that it happened in March,
• 21:28
  but I'll say if I think
• 21:29
  that it should be communicated.
• 21:31
  So all the athletes know
• 21:32
  that that's removed and not
• 21:34
  after this happens,
• 21:36
  because if other athletes
• 21:38
  are in a similar situation
• 21:40
  or they're used to doing
• 21:41
  that on the regular, that's how,
• 21:45
  like what they do.
• 21:47
  it's a disadvantage to all
• 21:49
  the other athletes that
• 21:50
  didn't know about that change of rule.
• 21:52
  Cause that's not a rule in CrossFit.
• 21:56
  Right.
• 21:56
  So, yeah, I mean.
• 22:05
  So my, my thought is this, and I've,
• 22:08
  I've echoed this.
• 22:09
  Maybe I can do it more concisely here.
• 22:13
  I believe that,
• 22:15
  that in my mind in my
• 22:17
  dealings with the people
• 22:18
  involved will saxon alex
• 22:21
  all of them deserve the
• 22:22
  benefit of the doubt for me
• 22:24
  None of them have lied to me.
• 22:26
  None of them have treated me
• 22:28
  disrespectfully.
• 22:30
  Everything has been on the up and up.
• 22:32
  So in my mind,
• 22:33
  they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
• 22:35
  I believe this is what happened.
• 22:37
  I believe that the WFP met
• 22:39
  with Drug Free Sport or
• 22:41
  WADA or whoever is doing
• 22:43
  the testing in March.
• 22:45
  And they asked,
• 22:46
  they went down through the list.
• 22:47
  Are we testing for this, this, this, this?
• 22:51
  And Will probably said no to THC.
• 22:55
  they were having their
• 22:56
  meeting with drug free
• 22:57
  sport then from that point
• 23:00
  forward he did not update
• 23:02
  the paper right and that's
• 23:06
  that's a life I live every
• 23:07
  day in government a law
• 23:09
  changes and it's on the
• 23:11
  book says this is the law
• 23:13
  that's changed the
• 23:14
  documentation that's out
• 23:15
  there to the public takes
• 23:17
  forever to get updated
• 23:21
  One,
• 23:21
  because you forget or you can't find
• 23:23
  it or it has to go through
• 23:26
  communications and legal
• 23:28
  and whatever to make sure
• 23:29
  it's worded correctly or
• 23:31
  any of that kind of stuff.
• 23:32
  I believe that's what happened.
• 23:36
  And in my mind,
• 23:37
  they have the benefit of the doubt.
• 23:38
  They have not done anything to me.
• 23:39
  And so that is why I am saying that.
• 23:43
  Everybody that's saying she
• 23:44
  had an unfair advantage,
• 23:45
  she was taking it thinking
• 23:47
  that it was banned.
• 23:49
  Right.
• 23:50
  Until after the competition was over.
• 23:54
  Cause she got,
• 23:54
  cause she got drug tested
• 23:55
  there and then was like, Oh,
• 23:57
  I took this probably.
• 23:59
  Yeah.
• 23:59
  Cause she didn't mention it
• 24:00
  to will till after.
• 24:02
  See,
• 24:02
  I think that's an athlete's
• 24:03
  responsibility, though.
• 24:04
  I mean,
• 24:05
  I grew up in a testing sport of
• 24:06
  hockey where I've been
• 24:07
  tested with Taekwondo and
• 24:08
  hockey since I was about
• 24:09
  fifteen years old.
• 24:10
  So like I'm very aware of
• 24:12
  everything I've ever consumed,
• 24:14
  anything on the shelves.
• 24:15
  I was like always told none
• 24:16
  of that can be in your system.
• 24:18
  Like you have to know even
• 24:20
  if like there's some THC
• 24:22
  that like like I've always
• 24:25
  known as an athlete that
• 24:25
  you can't take that.
• 24:27
  And like,
• 24:27
  I've stayed away from any of that stuff,
• 24:30
  like my whole life.
• 24:30
  Um,
• 24:32
  but there's like a responsibility as an
• 24:33
  athlete to know that, I mean,
• 24:34
  it's good that she, um,
• 24:36
  went forward and told will, um,
• 24:40
  and then they had, you know,
• 24:41
  remove that and whatnot.
• 24:42
  But I still think that it
• 24:44
  was a careless moment from
• 24:46
  Alex because she could be,
• 24:48
  could have been suspended if,
• 24:49
  if there wasn't,
• 24:50
  if there was enough in the system,
• 24:51
  I don't know what the
• 24:52
  actual amount that you need in your,
• 24:55
  but I think it was a lack of
• 24:58
  judgment on her part during the weekend.
• 25:02
  And it's, she's lucky, honestly,
• 25:06
  that it could have been a suspension.
• 25:09
  Right.
• 25:09
  Yeah.
• 25:10
  Now do I think that it
• 25:12
  should be on the list?
• 25:14
  No.
• 25:14
  Cause like,
• 25:15
  I don't think it's a
• 25:16
  performance enhancing substance.
• 25:19
  Um, but by the rules, um,
• 25:24
  I think she should have been
• 25:25
  smarter about that.
• 25:28
  Justin says, I was there.
• 25:29
  I heard what Will said.
• 25:30
  She mentioned it.
• 25:31
  He immediately responded, oh,
• 25:32
  I took that out.
• 25:33
  We don't test for that.
• 25:36
  And that's why I believe
• 25:37
  that he probably met with
• 25:40
  the testers and said, hey,
• 25:43
  don't test for that anymore,
• 25:45
  but did not update any of the documents.
• 25:48
  And while I think that it is
• 25:49
  his responsibility to
• 25:50
  update those documents,
• 25:53
  I live in a world where that
• 25:54
  happens all the time.
• 25:57
  Yeah.
• 25:57
  And so I'm not excusing it.
• 25:59
  I'm just saying it is a
• 26:00
  common blunder with law
• 26:03
  rule and rule changes to
• 26:05
  get all of the front facing
• 26:07
  documents changed.
• 26:14
  I agree with Carolyn.
• 26:16
  This is from Justin mistake,
• 26:19
  taking it mistake,
• 26:20
  bringing it up in a podcast.
• 26:21
  Like,
• 26:22
  it could have really ruined her whole
• 26:23
  season.
• 26:24
  And she's one of our top
• 26:25
  athletes in the sport, right?
• 26:27
  Like,
• 26:27
  it's... She's really lucky that WFP
• 26:30
  took that out of that weekend.
• 26:32
  Because they could have...
• 26:34
  She didn't know until she
• 26:35
  talked to Will after the competition.
• 26:37
  Like, after she had already consumed it.
• 26:40
  So, like...
• 26:42
  But again,
• 26:43
  I don't think that it should be
• 26:46
  necessarily banned, but per the rules.
• 26:50
  Yeah, definitely a mistake on that part.
• 26:51
  And then a lack of
• 26:53
  communication on will to
• 26:55
  the athletes as well.
• 26:57
  But now everything is out.
• 27:00
  on in terms of like,
• 27:01
  everyone knows that that's
• 27:02
  allowed on the WFP side.
• 27:03
  It is not allowed still on
• 27:04
  the CrossFit side.
• 27:06
  So if you're going to a
• 27:08
  CrossFit sanctioned event,
• 27:10
  you need to be aware of
• 27:11
  what goes in your body on, you know,
• 27:15
  out of competition and
• 27:16
  certainly in competition as
• 27:17
  well with the risks of being tested.
• 27:21
  Um,
• 27:23
  But I do like that she was
• 27:25
  forward facing in terms of, you know,
• 27:29
  responding to things.
• 27:31
  And then once everything
• 27:33
  kind of settled and she
• 27:34
  knew that she was in the clear,
• 27:35
  I think then could make a
• 27:36
  joke about it with her video,
• 27:38
  which was hilarious.
• 27:38
  Yeah, that was funny.
• 27:40
  But you don't make that
• 27:41
  video until you're kind of
• 27:42
  more at ease with the
• 27:44
  situation and have a
• 27:47
  response from the WFP
• 27:48
  saying everything is good.
• 27:50
  Because before then,
• 27:51
  I think she was also like
• 27:53
  backtracking and nervous
• 27:55
  and concerned for sure,
• 27:57
  as probably Justin was as well.
• 27:59
  And I'm sure they've had a
• 28:01
  long chat since that podcast.
• 28:05
  We don't know if it would
• 28:06
  have even come up as a
• 28:07
  positive as it was a microdose of THC,
• 28:09
  but without question, can't do it.
• 28:15
  Yeah.
• 28:17
  I...
• 28:19
  My only issue with all of
• 28:20
  this is like every time
• 28:22
  something comes out from the WFP,
• 28:24
  it's like everybody's just
• 28:25
  bam down their throat.
• 28:27
  Bam.
• 28:27
  Let's find out what's wrong with this.
• 28:29
  Bam, bam, bam.
• 28:30
  Right.
• 28:31
  And and this is just another
• 28:34
  one where like nobody's
• 28:35
  given the benefit of the doubt.
• 28:37
  I've known Saxon Panjik
• 28:39
  since almost for almost ten years.
• 28:41
  And I don't know if there's
• 28:43
  a more trustworthy guy that
• 28:45
  I have met in this space than him.
• 28:49
  And this was their first ever event.
• 28:53
  Like that's a lot of stuff
• 28:55
  to goes into that.
• 28:56
  And a lot of things to a lot
• 28:58
  of ducks to have in a row.
• 28:59
  And it just, it just was tough.
• 29:04
  So I just remember like, growing up, like,
• 29:07
  like, we had a lot of meetings on, like,
• 29:15
  supplement stuff,
• 29:16
  like when I was very young, and like,
• 29:17
  it was like ingrained in our, like,
• 29:21
  teams, like, like you're not,
• 29:22
  if you're at a convention center,
• 29:24
  you're not, you know,
• 29:26
  testing anything that they're sampling.
• 29:28
  And like, it's like, we were like drilled,
• 29:31
  like with meetings and
• 29:32
  meetings on like supplement stuff.
• 29:33
  And I feel like I've seen a
• 29:35
  lot of careless stuff in
• 29:37
  our sport and people just
• 29:38
  share each other's
• 29:39
  pre-workouts and whatnot,
• 29:41
  without any concern of what
• 29:42
  other people have in their drinks.
• 29:44
  Um,
• 29:46
  Like it's maybe I come from
• 29:47
  like a different sport that
• 29:48
  like we were tested much
• 29:51
  more and I've only been
• 29:52
  tested out of competition
• 29:54
  once in my whole CrossFit career,
• 29:56
  which is crazy to me.
• 29:59
  Um, yeah, recently.
• 30:01
  Yeah.
• 30:01
  Like I've gone tested like at,
• 30:04
  at a competition after
• 30:07
  podium or something like that.
• 30:08
  But in terms of like out of
• 30:09
  competition once.
• 30:16
  I just feel like a lot of
• 30:17
  people are extremely
• 30:19
  careless in what they take.
• 30:23
  They don't look for
• 30:24
  supplements that have the
• 30:27
  informed sport or NSF.
• 30:32
  They take whatever.
• 30:32
  They share each other's drinks.
• 30:34
  It's just...
• 30:37
  There's samples of things
• 30:38
  and they don't even go and
• 30:39
  look whether that company
• 30:40
  has any third-party testing
• 30:41
  and stuff like that.
• 30:44
  I don't know if there needs
• 30:45
  to be more education in our
• 30:46
  sport if people come from
• 30:48
  different backgrounds.
• 30:49
  I don't know.
• 30:51
  I mean, to me, if they test positive,
• 30:53
  see ya.
• 30:55
  But I just think people are
• 30:57
  not very smart with that kind of stuff.
• 30:59
  I I've actually been with
• 31:01
  Saxon at events where he is.
• 31:03
  Someone said, Hey, try this protein bar.
• 31:05
  And he'll just throw it in the garbage.
• 31:07
  Like, even if it's something that it says,
• 31:09
  it's like, okay.
• 31:11
  He's like,
• 31:11
  I don't know what they've done to it.
• 31:12
  I don't know what,
• 31:14
  if it's been manipulated or
• 31:15
  anything like that.
• 31:19
  And so.
• 31:22
  Yeah.
• 31:22
  People just,
• 31:23
  you have to be that diligent
• 31:24
  as an athlete.
• 31:25
  If you want to make sure
• 31:27
  that you do not test positive.
• 31:29
  Especially like a
• 31:30
  professional level when you
• 31:31
  know that there's testing.
• 31:37
  All right.
• 31:43
  An athlete's agent agents
• 31:46
  managers keep talking about
• 31:47
  wanting CrossFit to be a
• 31:48
  professional sport that
• 31:49
  goes with the territory from media.
• 31:52
  Okay, I don't disagree.
• 31:55
  I wonder if CrossFit would
• 31:57
  put a message and be like,
• 31:59
  because I would have wanted
• 32:00
  CrossFit to be like,
• 32:01
  while we see that this rule is the WFP,
• 32:05
  we still are going to be
• 32:07
  testing for this in the
• 32:09
  CrossFit space because we believe blah,
• 32:14
  blah, blah, blah.
• 32:15
  I get that they don't care about the WFP,
• 32:18
  but I feel like CrossFit
• 32:20
  should also make a
• 32:21
  statement in our sport that
• 32:24
  make sure to look up, you know,
• 32:28
  the rules and regulations
• 32:30
  and what is prohibited and not,
• 32:32
  and that you're up to date
• 32:33
  on new substances that are
• 32:35
  added to the list,
• 32:38
  including in competition THC.
• 32:42
  And I don't want it lost what you said,
• 32:44
  Carolyn,
• 32:44
  and that is that the WFP put out
• 32:47
  a press release about this.
• 32:50
  That never happens in CrossFit.
• 32:52
  And I thought that was great
• 32:54
  that they went forward
• 32:55
  right away with like
• 32:56
  addressing the big issue
• 32:59
  that was that situation.
• 33:04
  I have said this over and over again.
• 33:05
  The amount of communication
• 33:06
  I get from the WFP compared
• 33:08
  to what I get from CrossFit
• 33:10
  is a one eighty.
• 33:13
  Like they send out press
• 33:14
  releases all the time to an
• 33:16
  email list of media members.
• 33:20
  And so I don't have to go
• 33:22
  searching on six different
• 33:23
  Instagram accounts as to
• 33:25
  where it might be released
• 33:26
  or a YouTube video.
• 33:28
  I get an actual press release from them.
• 33:34
  So margaritas at Jamie's,
• 33:36
  is that what I'm hearing?
• 33:38
  Erin just got me more water.
• 33:40
  Yes,
• 33:41
  he did put kind of a lot of ice in it.
• 33:44
  I had plenty of margaritas yesterday.
• 33:45
  I'm struggling a bit.
• 33:50
  welcome to the hangover
• 33:51
  jamie yeah is that what
• 33:55
  happens at a barbecue after
• 33:57
  murph yes hey you're tim oh
• 34:04
  I have not I have not had
• 34:05
  an alcoholic beverage in so
• 34:06
  long I don't even know what
• 34:07
  they taste like anymore I
• 34:10
  just don't like the taste
• 34:11
  like I don't like the taste
• 34:12
  of beer and I don't like
• 34:13
  wine so the only thing I
• 34:15
  can drink is like vodka
• 34:17
  mixed drink and like I don't crave vodka
• 34:21
  So it's like very easy for
• 34:22
  me not to drink.
• 34:23
  Like I used to have some
• 34:25
  drinks like with my hockey team,
• 34:27
  like when I would play
• 34:29
  different weekends and stuff,
• 34:30
  but now I'm like, eh,
• 34:32
  I don't really care for it.
• 34:34
  It's been a while since I've had a drink.
• 34:36
  Before this podcast,
• 34:36
  I had a craft beer podcast.
• 34:38
  I love the taste of beer.
• 34:40
  Although everybody's told me
• 34:41
  since I've quit drinking
• 34:42
  for like now it's going on
• 34:44
  eighteen months or so.
• 34:45
  Like I will not like the
• 34:47
  taste of beer when I go
• 34:47
  back because it is an acquired taste.
• 34:50
  And if you've been without
• 34:51
  it for a long time, all of a sudden,
• 34:53
  like that's what I'm being told.
• 34:55
  Yeah.
• 34:56
  If I ever try it again,
• 34:57
  I won't like the taste again.
• 35:03
  Ken Walter says hockey teams
• 35:04
  don't have only some drinks.
• 35:06
  Yeah.
• 35:07
  I mean,
• 35:07
  I did go to a good good school in
• 35:09
  Wisconsin that
• 35:11
  It was good times.
• 35:17
  Edging says,
• 35:17
  can lead to an allergy where
• 35:18
  you wake up in handcuffs.
• 35:20
  A friend told me so.
• 35:20
  Oh, boy.
• 35:28
  Wow.
• 35:29
  All right.
• 35:30
  So through that, Labatt's or Molson's.
• 35:37
  I actually like Canadian
• 35:38
  beer is actually really good.
• 35:41
  Am I your American beers were awful.
• 35:45
  When I know like when I went
• 35:46
  to the States and like our
• 35:47
  hockey team had like beers
• 35:49
  which I would rarely ever
• 35:51
  ever have like drink but no,
• 35:55
  they're like watered down.
• 35:57
  Wow, we have all kinds of beer.
• 35:59
  I mean, but yes, you're like Bud Lights.
• 36:02
  Yeah, it's like it's like water.
• 36:05
  Yeah.
• 36:05
  I can't handle the American
• 36:07
  domestic beers and that's, that's just,
• 36:10
  what's bad because the
• 36:11
  other ones are much more
• 36:12
  highly caloric than that.
• 36:15
  And it's just bad.
• 36:15
  Uh,
• 36:16
  Ken says that Madison's Halloween is
• 36:18
  the best college party ever.
• 36:20
  No,
• 36:20
  the Mifflin block party is the craziest
• 36:23
  one that happened like in the springtime.
• 36:27
  It's like this one street where it's,
• 36:29
  everyone is just on the
• 36:31
  street drinking and people
• 36:33
  off their balconies are throwing
• 36:36
  alcohol to people it's crazy
• 36:42
  um all right we could go
• 36:44
  down a long talk of beer
• 36:45
  and parties yeah um let's
• 36:48
  go on to we had the first
• 36:49
  road to the games released
• 36:52
  did you guys get a chance
• 36:52
  to see that I have not seen
• 36:54
  it I did oh my gosh jamie
• 36:55
  you were so quick I know
• 36:57
  this week was just busy for
• 36:58
  me lucas's last week at
• 37:00
  school there's I don't know
• 37:02
  it was just a busy week
• 37:05
  So it featured Colton
• 37:06
  Mertens and Austin Hatfield.
• 37:10
  I thought if I'm going to review this,
• 37:13
  and if I'm reviewing, it's my opinion.
• 37:18
  I'm going to put that out there first.
• 37:20
  I thought it was better than
• 37:23
  what they've been doing,
• 37:25
  but left me wanting a little bit more.
• 37:29
  So I would put it at the B
• 37:31
  plus A minus area.
• 37:33
  Okay.
• 37:35
  and to be fair, I'm a CrossFit nerd.
• 37:37
  So I know a lot about Colton.
• 37:40
  I know a lot about Austin going into this.
• 37:43
  So I wanted to know more.
• 37:49
  Does that make, does that make sense?
• 37:51
  Yeah.
• 37:51
  And I thought the same.
• 37:53
  I mean, I, I, I mean,
• 37:54
  I thought it was good.
• 37:55
  I mean, I like CrossFit content, um,
• 37:59
  like I think hillar has done
• 38:02
  you know better videos on
• 38:03
  athletes um and their
• 38:05
  stories and a little bit
• 38:07
  longer too like theirs is
• 38:09
  what like twenty-ish
• 38:10
  something minutes twenty
• 38:11
  minutes yeah it's just over
• 38:12
  twenty twenty yeah and I
• 38:14
  don't think that they need
• 38:14
  to be like two too long
• 38:15
  because I think that you
• 38:17
  know in that twenty to
• 38:18
  thirty minute range um but
• 38:21
  yeah like maybe a little
• 38:22
  bit more of their lives and
• 38:26
  stuff like I mean I guess
• 38:27
  we saw a lot of chick-fil-a for
• 38:30
  um austin and a little bit
• 38:33
  of colton's work on the
• 38:35
  farm but not too too much
• 38:38
  so what I'm going to
• 38:38
  compare everything to this
• 38:40
  season is the laura horvat
• 38:42
  wfp video I did really like
• 38:44
  that one and the hopper
• 38:45
  hiller video I thought
• 38:48
  those are the two piece
• 38:49
  best pieces of content
• 38:50
  we've had this year so I
• 38:53
  would put it below those for sure
• 38:56
  but I would put it above
• 38:57
  like the Adler WFP video.
• 39:00
  I thought it had a little
• 39:00
  more substance than that one.
• 39:02
  The best parts were like
• 39:04
  Allie and Colton digging
• 39:05
  post holes and their
• 39:07
  interaction through that.
• 39:08
  I wanted more of that.
• 39:10
  To me,
• 39:10
  that was more about like his
• 39:12
  day-to-day life.
• 39:14
  I'm done with the work.
• 39:15
  I don't need to see them train.
• 39:16
  Right.
• 39:17
  And there's a lot of like
• 39:18
  watching them train and I get it.
• 39:21
  It's a fitness thing.
• 39:23
  And,
• 39:25
  So to me, that's that.
• 39:29
  And again,
• 39:30
  these are like Julian Eifert's
• 39:32
  in here saying Alexis
• 39:33
  Raptus was better than Hofford Hopper.
• 39:36
  They were two different styles.
• 39:37
  I also think it depends on
• 39:39
  the personality of the athlete,
• 39:40
  like how much they're willing to,
• 39:42
  to talk and really express themselves.
• 39:45
  Like there's just athletes
• 39:46
  that are just more.
• 39:49
  Like Colton's a lot more
• 39:51
  chirpy type of athlete,
• 39:52
  but in terms of as deep
• 39:55
  into a conversation,
• 39:58
  I don't know that he really
• 39:59
  goes super deep into this
• 40:02
  private life and, um,
• 40:04
  like day to day stuff.
• 40:06
  Like, like I think, I think there's,
• 40:08
  it just depends on where
• 40:09
  the conversations go with people.
• 40:11
  Yeah.
• 40:11
  Like Hopper is someone
• 40:12
  that's just more open,
• 40:14
  which is why I think I like
• 40:15
  the Laura one because we
• 40:16
  haven't seen her be as open.
• 40:18
  So seeing an athlete that
• 40:19
  you don't see that side, you know,
• 40:22
  and go a little bit deeper
• 40:24
  into their background as a child,
• 40:27
  I think that that is more interesting.
• 40:30
  So Ken says Hillers,
• 40:32
  Haley and Domitz were good.
• 40:34
  They were good.
• 40:35
  Hoppers was another level to
• 40:36
  me because he dug into that,
• 40:39
  that Vermont piece and how
• 40:41
  that affected Hopper and
• 40:42
  how he almost quit CrossFit altogether.
• 40:45
  Like I,
• 40:46
  that's what made that one better
• 40:48
  storytelling to me.
• 40:51
  The Raptus one in the hot
• 40:52
  tub like was fun and it was
• 40:55
  very different and I really enjoyed it,
• 40:57
  but it didn't hit the
• 40:58
  storytelling level of the
• 41:00
  Hopper and the Horvat one.
• 41:01
  Yeah.
• 41:05
  The Horvat one where she goes back to her,
• 41:06
  her like grade school and all that,
• 41:09
  like that stuff was really,
• 41:11
  really fun to watch.
• 41:14
  And the relationship between her and,
• 41:17
  and her brother was really good too.
• 41:21
  you hear all these rumors
• 41:22
  and you know the stupid
• 41:25
  insinuations and and
• 41:26
  they're just like a really
• 41:28
  good close family yeah well
• 41:30
  I mean that that's like
• 41:31
  stupid rumors like they're
• 41:32
  just yeah like brother
• 41:33
  sister and supportive of
• 41:35
  each other I think anyone
• 41:36
  that goes that way has but
• 41:39
  it was nice to see it in that fashion too
• 41:42
  that she kind of chased
• 41:43
  around him when he was an
• 41:45
  athlete and she was coming
• 41:47
  up and wanted to be an athlete.
• 41:48
  And like,
• 41:49
  that was the cool storytelling part.
• 41:51
  That's, that's all I'm saying.
• 41:54
  And CrossFit used to be really good at it.
• 41:57
  And I think we got to,
• 41:58
  we fell too much in love
• 41:59
  with the workout porn.
• 42:00
  Yeah.
• 42:03
  But I think both of those
• 42:04
  athletes have very similar
• 42:05
  type personalities.
• 42:08
  Sure.
• 42:09
  Like,
• 42:09
  like Austin and like,
• 42:11
  they're kind of just like
• 42:12
  quiet workhorse is like, maybe,
• 42:16
  maybe if you would have
• 42:17
  paired two different
• 42:18
  athletes that have a lot
• 42:20
  different backgrounds,
• 42:21
  you would have seen a
• 42:22
  little bit more contrast in,
• 42:24
  in their stuff.
• 42:24
  I don't know.
• 42:26
  Um, I think they'll get better as,
• 42:29
  as it goes along and you
• 42:31
  get different personalities.
• 42:33
  Huge shout out to Leah Nichols,
• 42:34
  who just became a member of our channel.
• 42:37
  That's my cousin.
• 42:38
  Thank you so much for that, Leah.
• 42:44
  And everybody's bringing up
• 42:45
  cool memories of Brooke
• 42:47
  Entz and Marston having the
• 42:49
  fight at regionals,
• 42:51
  that that had the drama and
• 42:52
  the tea that everybody wanted.
• 42:56
  Josh Bridges running up the
• 42:57
  street shirtless.
• 42:59
  The Smith brothers working
• 43:01
  out in the cul-de-sac.
• 43:03
  that's when CrossFit was
• 43:04
  really good at storytelling.
• 43:06
  Those are the memorable ones.
• 43:08
  Those are the ones we all
• 43:09
  love to tune in to see.
• 43:10
  And I think they just have
• 43:14
  to get reps in again.
• 43:18
  They went away from doing
• 43:19
  these stories and now
• 43:20
  they've got to get back in
• 43:21
  and it's going to take some
• 43:22
  reps to get back into that
• 43:23
  full swing of things.
• 43:24
  Yeah, I agree.
• 43:29
  All right.
• 43:29
  We know what the first event
• 43:31
  of the CrossFit Games is.
• 43:34
  Excited.
• 43:38
  Same old.
• 43:38
  Yeah.
• 43:39
  We're the same old.
• 43:41
  Run, swim, run, run, row, run,
• 43:44
  run or swim kayak.
• 43:46
  Like it's the same start.
• 43:49
  I wish that like I didn't
• 43:51
  always start with a long
• 43:52
  endurance events.
• 43:53
  I think it's the same people
• 43:54
  that get an advantage,
• 43:55
  like get confidence to
• 43:56
  start the week where it's
• 43:58
  like put that sometimes.
• 44:00
  And I understand that, you know,
• 44:01
  less people have arrived by
• 44:02
  the Thursday or Fridays normally.
• 44:04
  And it's an event you kind
• 44:05
  of want to get out of the way.
• 44:07
  But you give the same people
• 44:08
  an advantage every single competition.
• 44:13
  Same type of leaders,
• 44:14
  same endurance athletes.
• 44:15
  And like you just get
• 44:17
  confidence and you start
• 44:18
  rolling and you feel better.
• 44:19
  And in our sport,
• 44:20
  like confidence is a big thing.
• 44:21
  Like if you started with a
• 44:22
  different type of workout,
• 44:23
  like a more CrossFit workout,
• 44:25
  like I bet you like
• 44:27
  sometimes the whole weekend changes.
• 44:30
  You get a leader's jersey.
• 44:31
  You get something.
• 44:33
  You get a top five, top ten.
• 44:34
  All of a sudden, your first event,
• 44:35
  you're like, heck yeah, let's go.
• 44:37
  Now you're all pumped.
• 44:38
  You start the weekend at the
• 44:41
  thirtieth place, twenty-fifth place,
• 44:43
  and it's a hole to dig out of.
• 44:45
  You're in your own head after that.
• 44:47
  I would just like for it to
• 44:48
  start differently than just
• 44:51
  a long endurance every single time.
• 44:53
  I think it's needed.
• 44:54
  I'm not saying it's not needed.
• 44:55
  It is needed.
• 44:56
  I think there's different
• 44:56
  ways that they could do it,
• 44:57
  like multiple rounds.
• 44:59
  four time or different than
• 45:01
  just like a long like that
• 45:03
  I think would be better to
• 45:05
  watch because this one has
• 45:06
  been done um but I would
• 45:08
  just like to see it start
• 45:09
  differently than the same
• 45:11
  people that get leaders
• 45:13
  jersey I mean on the
• 45:15
  woman's side we only really
• 45:16
  see one person on put the
• 45:17
  leader's jersey but yeah um
• 45:20
  imagine velner not starting
• 45:21
  in a hole it makes a big
• 45:22
  difference here um
• 45:28
  It could be half the
• 45:28
  distance and still the same
• 45:30
  people would win.
• 45:30
  Best runners are going to dominate.
• 45:33
  Yeah, I mean, it's a running workout.
• 45:35
  Like, you're not, I mean,
• 45:36
  you're not making up that
• 45:37
  much time on the row unless, like,
• 45:39
  you've cramped or something.
• 45:40
  Then you will on the run.
• 45:43
  You mean Yonikoski?
• 45:44
  Well, CrossFit,
• 45:45
  Yonikoski is not qualified yet.
• 45:47
  He's been one place out, like,
• 45:48
  in six different spots.
• 45:49
  But maybe he'll get in.
• 45:58
  If Tia goes, I think she does.
• 46:01
  I do too,
• 46:02
  but she has not said anywhere
• 46:04
  that she's retiring.
• 46:08
  She's going, um, my only,
• 46:12
  my biggest problem with
• 46:13
  this event is the
• 46:14
  announcement that it's the
• 46:15
  community event.
• 46:18
  This is an hour long hour plus event.
• 46:25
  and this is what you want
• 46:26
  the community to come jump
• 46:27
  into and participate with, that's a lot.
• 46:31
  I also don't think it's a
• 46:32
  good look because it's a
• 46:33
  specialist workout.
• 46:35
  You could have literally
• 46:36
  some high rocks people come
• 46:37
  here and smoke the scores
• 46:39
  of the CrossFit Games athletes.
• 46:41
  A hundred percent will smoke
• 46:43
  some of the elite fifteens and stuff.
• 46:46
  If you grab a more
• 46:47
  CrossFit-y workout for the
• 46:49
  community to do,
• 46:51
  I think it would entice more people to
• 46:54
  in the community and then
• 46:55
  can actually compare to the elites.
• 47:03
  Julian Eifert says, hour for who, Scott?
• 47:05
  Well, not me, because I mean,
• 47:07
  I'm talking a good ninety
• 47:09
  minute plus in my heyday.
• 47:13
  But like Jamie could
• 47:13
  probably do this in an hour or less.
• 47:17
  And like she jumped in on
• 47:19
  the five K when it was a
• 47:20
  community event a couple of years ago.
• 47:22
  again now we've had two
• 47:23
  community events it's only
• 47:24
  been done twice and it's
• 47:26
  been a five k and a six
• 47:28
  mile run with a three
• 47:29
  thousand meter row where's
• 47:32
  the fun stuff to get people
• 47:33
  like into crossfit right
• 47:37
  this is nothing that's
• 47:38
  going to like entice
• 47:39
  somebody to go to a
• 47:40
  crossfit gym I can do this in my backyard
• 47:45
  It's their opening High Rocks event,
• 47:48
  basically.
• 47:48
  Right, that's what it feels like.
• 47:49
  Is Mirror Jam is qualified?
• 47:52
  Yeah.
• 47:53
  I'm very curious how she does at this.
• 47:58
  Was she an Elite Fifteen individual?
• 48:01
  I don't know.
• 48:01
  I mean, I really only know, like, the...
• 48:09
  the jacobson girl or
• 48:10
  whatever lauren makes um I
• 48:13
  can't think like I can't
• 48:14
  think of anyone out of the
• 48:14
  top five really in my mind
• 48:16
  so I I it isn't ringing a
• 48:18
  bell to me because I think
• 48:20
  her run I don't know if her
• 48:21
  run is her strongest point
• 48:22
  of the high rocks right
• 48:26
  Ken Walter says like bench
• 48:28
  press and deadlifts.
• 48:29
  Well, you say that,
• 48:30
  but like deadlifts is an
• 48:31
  easy move to teach.
• 48:33
  You could put deadlifts with
• 48:35
  a couple other movements,
• 48:37
  maybe some sandbag cleans,
• 48:40
  something like that.
• 48:40
  Something easy.
• 48:41
  That's not like a bunch of
• 48:42
  barbells out on the floor
• 48:44
  and run a couple of heats of that.
• 48:46
  Get people involved.
• 48:48
  Stop with the, the five K runs.
• 48:50
  I mean, this is,
• 48:53
  this does not excite me as
• 48:54
  a community member to take part in.
• 49:00
  I don't know.
• 49:02
  And like,
• 49:03
  as you're trying to sell tickets
• 49:05
  right now too, right?
• 49:06
  Like just a more,
• 49:08
  are they trying fire sale?
• 49:13
  Is the sale still on?
• 49:14
  I think it's ended.
• 49:15
  Yes.
• 49:16
  It ended.
• 49:16
  Yeah.
• 49:17
  They're still only percent
• 49:18
  off from all the athletes.
• 49:20
  And they get a kickback, which is nice.
• 49:22
  They do.
• 49:22
  They get fifty bucks every
• 49:23
  time someone buys tickets.
• 49:25
  That's pretty good.
• 49:28
  Do we think that the tickets
• 49:29
  are just going for too much?
• 49:31
  I think they were very expensive,
• 49:33
  like they're so expensive now,
• 49:34
  and I get like when the demand was there,
• 49:38
  but.
• 49:38
  I don't know,
• 49:40
  I feel like I also think
• 49:42
  putting it on either coast.
• 49:47
  takes away half of your
• 49:48
  population to come to the games.
• 49:52
  You only have diehard people
• 49:54
  flying from California or from overseas.
• 49:58
  If you have it in Wisconsin,
• 50:00
  it's in the middle of the country.
• 50:02
  People will then come
• 50:03
  halfway for some reason.
• 50:05
  It just doesn't seem like as
• 50:06
  much of a trip.
• 50:10
  Yeah.
• 50:16
  So I don't,
• 50:19
  I think it's a little bit of everything.
• 50:21
  Plus this is the biggest
• 50:22
  arena they've ever had by a lot.
• 50:24
  Like it's Madison was only
• 50:30
  like four or five thousand.
• 50:31
  This is a twelve thousand seat arena.
• 50:34
  No,
• 50:34
  Madison was more than four to five at
• 50:36
  that.
• 50:37
  Oh, come on.
• 50:38
  At that area.
• 50:39
  In the Coliseum.
• 50:40
  Come on.
• 50:41
  Yeah, I think it was five.
• 50:43
  I thought it was more than five.
• 50:44
  No way.
• 50:45
  Really?
• 50:46
  That whole one side didn't have any seats.
• 50:48
  It was all blocked off where
• 50:49
  you went out for the runs.
• 50:52
  Just the one year.
• 50:54
  Well, they,
• 50:55
  or they put like a VIP area or.
• 50:58
  Yeah.
• 51:02
  I like, I mean,
• 51:03
  I think Madison was so
• 51:04
  great because you could get the,
• 51:06
  it was like under two
• 51:07
  hundred bucks for the festival ticket.
• 51:08
  Right.
• 51:09
  And still get to see it.
• 51:11
  I mean, you got it just.
• 51:13
  And back then the masters,
• 51:14
  you could walk around and
• 51:15
  go through the age group
• 51:16
  and their little like
• 51:17
  facility or if they were on North Park.
• 51:20
  Yeah.
• 51:20
  All the other ones were in the Coliseum.
• 51:21
  Like there was stuff to do there.
• 51:22
  Yeah.
• 51:26
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  Hard to fly into.
• 51:29
  You have to go to Milwaukee or Chicago.
• 51:31
  Dane Airport is pretty small.
• 51:34
  Dane County Airport.
• 51:37
  Hotels maybe were not as many.
• 51:40
  You have to go about twenty
• 51:42
  minutes away for some of them.
• 51:46
  But the venue is great.
• 51:47
  The city is great.
• 51:52
  You all right there, Scott?
• 51:53
  Yeah, Scott, you done?
• 51:56
  It is Cottonwood season.
• 51:58
  It's been so bad these last couple days.
• 52:03
  I hated that arena in Madison.
• 52:05
  I thought the seats were so uncomfortable.
• 52:08
  I thought...
• 52:10
  I liked it as an overall venue.
• 52:13
  I liked it for the outdoor park.
• 52:16
  I liked it because
• 52:17
  everything was kind of
• 52:19
  consolidated together,
• 52:20
  but enough spread out where
• 52:22
  you could get to everything.
• 52:24
  The arena itself meant nothing to me.
• 52:28
  When we were at Fort Worth last year,
• 52:30
  the seats were super comfortable.
• 52:32
  It was a beautiful arena.
• 52:33
  It was brand new.
• 52:36
  But of course,
• 52:36
  it's going to have bad
• 52:37
  memories and all of that stuff.
• 52:38
  So anyway, I mean, in Madison, like that,
• 52:43
  that area is isn't even
• 52:45
  used during the year, like at all.
• 52:47
  It's a parking lot.
• 52:49
  Like nobody goes there.
• 52:50
  And there's like some random concerts now.
• 52:52
  Like it used to be one of
• 52:53
  the hockey rinks like long,
• 52:54
  long time ago before the Kohl Center.
• 52:56
  And like it's these random
• 52:59
  little concerts that are there.
• 53:00
  So like for what they turn
• 53:02
  that space when the games would go there,
• 53:04
  like it.
• 53:05
  Cause I, I mean, I live there,
• 53:07
  so it's really,
• 53:08
  it was really cool to see
• 53:09
  how it transformed.
• 53:10
  And then once they were gone,
• 53:11
  like it was empty.
• 53:15
  Um,
• 53:16
  fluffy fit says the lack of
• 53:17
  international travel to the
• 53:18
  U S also has an impact and it, and it,
• 53:21
  I'm sure it does.
• 53:24
  There's ten less individuals,
• 53:26
  ten less teams,
• 53:27
  fans of these athletes would be missing.
• 53:32
  Do you think we're missing
• 53:32
  the masters and the teens
• 53:34
  and stuff like for like
• 53:35
  people that are bringing
• 53:36
  their families and stuff like that?
• 53:41
  See,
• 53:41
  I knew it was more than five thousand.
• 53:44
  There's no way they put ten
• 53:45
  thousand people in there.
• 53:46
  Yeah,
• 53:47
  I'm pretty sure it was like ten to
• 53:48
  eleven thousand.
• 53:51
  I mean, it may have that capacity.
• 53:52
  I just I don't know.
• 53:53
  Didn't feel like that to me.
• 54:00
  Like,
• 54:01
  Texas just seems so big last year
• 54:04
  compared to it.
• 54:06
  And what's Albany?
• 54:07
  Fifteen?
• 54:12
  I just heard Dave say in
• 54:14
  that when they did the open
• 54:16
  announcement with Hopper
• 54:17
  and Pepper and Tyson Bajent and Sprague,
• 54:21
  that it was the biggest
• 54:22
  arena they'd had so far.
• 54:28
  fluffy fit said madison
• 54:29
  looked empty the last year
• 54:31
  it was not empty it was
• 54:33
  only empty in non final
• 54:35
  heats of individuals yeah
• 54:42
  to get spots definitely
• 54:43
  from a north park was
• 54:44
  always packed and then yeah
• 54:45
  the coliseum was pretty
• 54:48
  packed once it was the final heat team's
• 54:53
  More empty.
• 54:54
  Individuals would end,
• 54:55
  and it would empty out,
• 54:56
  and then the teams would
• 54:57
  come on the floor to nobody in the crowd,
• 55:00
  except for Jamie.
• 55:02
  True.
• 55:07
  So, yeah.
• 55:09
  And I'm really not disputing you, Jenny,
• 55:12
  on this.
• 55:12
  I think your numbers are probably correct.
• 55:14
  It just didn't have that feel to me.
• 55:16
  That's all.
• 55:20
  Ooh, Albany Olds, seventeen-five.
• 55:26
  Wow.
• 55:29
  Okay.
• 55:29
  They should have downsized.
• 55:30
  I agree.
• 55:33
  That makes sense why it's
• 55:35
  hard to sell for that much.
• 55:36
  Yeah.
• 55:38
  Because if it was the same
• 55:38
  size and we're not selling
• 55:40
  out significantly more.
• 55:44
  Five times bigger.
• 55:46
  Yeah.
• 55:48
  No wonder you're not selling up.
• 55:51
  Now all the prime locations are sold.
• 55:53
  If you look at the finish line,
• 55:54
  they're all sold.
• 55:56
  It's really just around the arena.
• 56:05
  So, all right, let's do some, um,
• 56:10
  CrossFit factor fiction
• 56:12
  every morning before I get
• 56:14
  into my CrossFit stuff,
• 56:15
  I watch get up on ESPN and
• 56:17
  they play a game called factor fiction.
• 56:20
  And they may,
• 56:21
  I give you a statement and
• 56:23
  you tell me if it's a fact
• 56:24
  or if it's fiction and why.
• 56:27
  Are we ready to play?
• 56:28
  Yep.
• 56:29
  Yep.
• 56:30
  Factor fiction.
• 56:31
  CrossFit doesn't care about
• 56:32
  the team's division.
• 56:37
  I'm going to, I'm going to say fact,
• 56:39
  but I would almost say
• 56:41
  fiction just out of the
• 56:44
  fact that they're still there.
• 56:46
  Yeah.
• 56:47
  With the individuals,
• 56:48
  like everyone else has
• 56:49
  gotten cut and moved and, and yeah,
• 56:53
  like the teams are still
• 56:55
  there with the individuals and,
• 56:56
  They get the venue.
• 56:57
  They get the stuff.
• 57:00
  But yeah,
• 57:01
  they're me and they're... Fiction
• 57:04
  from my experience on the demo team,
• 57:06
  I feel like we tested more
• 57:07
  of the team workouts than
• 57:08
  we did the individuals.
• 57:10
  But that makes sense because
• 57:11
  everything would have been
• 57:12
  more tested maybe prior
• 57:15
  with the individuals.
• 57:17
  And then more of the bigger
• 57:19
  apparatus stuff on the turf
• 57:21
  needed to be testing there.
• 57:24
  I still think they cared
• 57:25
  about the teams because they were
• 57:30
  tweaking a lot of stuff.
• 57:31
  Did Dave care about the teams?
• 57:33
  No,
• 57:33
  because like we were like middle of the
• 57:34
  wad and he just left.
• 57:37
  We were not fast enough on
• 57:39
  one of the wads and he just like,
• 57:41
  he left.
• 57:45
  Jenny actually made a point
• 57:48
  in her update the other day where at TFX,
• 57:50
  the teams were actually
• 57:51
  more popular than the
• 57:52
  individual athletes.
• 57:54
  And I think it goes back to
• 57:55
  that regional approach to
• 57:57
  teams where you're bringing
• 58:00
  not just the family members of the team,
• 58:02
  but the gym members of the
• 58:03
  team because they're coming
• 58:05
  to support the whole thing.
• 58:06
  And I think that's a part of
• 58:08
  the equation that we've
• 58:10
  lost in all of this shuffle is
• 58:13
  is at the qualifying events,
• 58:18
  teams are super important,
• 58:20
  and we've eliminated them
• 58:22
  because they're only online
• 58:24
  to get to the games.
• 58:26
  And so we've lost that draw along the way,
• 58:30
  and I think that is
• 58:31
  something that is missing
• 58:32
  from the equation.
• 58:34
  Totally agree.
• 58:35
  Which makes you feel like
• 58:37
  CrossFit has just pushed
• 58:38
  them to the back.
• 58:39
  You feel like they don't care about them.
• 58:42
  I mean, the online semifinals?
• 58:44
  Shit show.
• 58:45
  Yeah.
• 58:46
  Yes.
• 58:46
  Complete shit show.
• 58:47
  Like, no care there.
• 58:48
  They even look at a single video.
• 58:50
  Correct.
• 58:51
  But then they didn't really
• 58:52
  look at many for the individuals either,
• 58:53
  because it was just the
• 58:55
  ones that had a lot of downvotes.
• 58:57
  Any other one, they didn't look at.
• 58:59
  So...
• 59:03
  And so I think that in a
• 59:04
  cost-cutting thought process,
• 59:08
  you forget what this entity
• 59:10
  over here brought to your package.
• 59:14
  Yeah.
• 59:14
  Yeah, you need people.
• 59:16
  Teams bring a bunch of
• 59:17
  people to any competition.
• 59:21
  and removing that,
• 59:22
  removing even the masters,
• 59:23
  like it was good for them to,
• 59:25
  it's good for them to have
• 59:26
  their own competition.
• 59:28
  Don't get me wrong,
• 59:29
  but they do bring a lot of
• 59:32
  people and a lot of spending.
• 59:38
  Like,
• 59:38
  could they fill seventeen five
• 59:40
  hundred just individuals?
• 59:41
  No, like you need the team.
• 59:42
  So I feel like they're still
• 59:43
  using the teams for that.
• 59:48
  But we know who the twenty teams are.
• 59:51
  And apparently they're not
• 59:52
  buying enough tickets
• 59:54
  because they're forty percent off.
• 59:56
  And I think Ken said up here
• 59:57
  and I don't know if.
• 59:59
  If you're just saying here for it's true,
• 1:00:01
  but he said, like,
• 1:00:02
  if you bought tickets before the sale,
• 1:00:04
  they're giving you two free
• 1:00:05
  tickets for friends.
• 1:00:09
  If it's a joke, it's funny.
• 1:00:11
  If it's real, it's sad.
• 1:00:13
  Well,
• 1:00:14
  you feel kind of got if something
• 1:00:16
  comes out like this and you
• 1:00:17
  are the one that bought early.
• 1:00:21
  So I can see them.
• 1:00:22
  I'm sure people were
• 1:00:23
  complaining and wanted something.
• 1:00:28
  All right.
• 1:00:28
  Fact or fiction.
• 1:00:30
  CrossFit has become
• 1:00:31
  completely hands-off with
• 1:00:32
  the sports season up until the games.
• 1:00:36
  Fact.
• 1:00:37
  Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  You saw that with the online
• 1:00:40
  video review and yeah,
• 1:00:42
  they're outsourcing everything,
• 1:00:43
  outsourcing the programming,
• 1:00:44
  outsourcing the events.
• 1:00:46
  No looking over any of the events,
• 1:00:47
  no looking over videos.
• 1:00:49
  No, it's just once the athletes are there,
• 1:00:51
  they'll program the open
• 1:00:53
  and they'll program their stuff.
• 1:00:56
  But right now,
• 1:00:58
  like most of the season to get there,
• 1:01:01
  there's.
• 1:01:02
  They've outsourced the video
• 1:01:03
  review to the public.
• 1:01:06
  They didn't even do the
• 1:01:07
  video review for the teams.
• 1:01:11
  They have outsourced all the
• 1:01:12
  in-person qualifying events.
• 1:01:16
  They're letting them make their own rules.
• 1:01:17
  Which I think is dumb.
• 1:01:20
  Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Final one.
• 1:01:24
  Fact or fiction.
• 1:01:26
  Mayhem athlete programs
• 1:01:28
  every CrossFit event.
• 1:01:29
  Fact.
• 1:01:31
  And if they're not programming,
• 1:01:32
  they have athletes testing
• 1:01:33
  them so they know the workouts.
• 1:01:36
  They know the workouts to
• 1:01:37
  every single event.
• 1:01:37
  It's such bullshit.
• 1:01:40
  Well, they didn't program Torian, correct?
• 1:01:42
  I'm sure they had someone test it.
• 1:01:45
  Torian is greatly programmed.
• 1:01:47
  I really like their programming.
• 1:01:48
  I do really like their programming.
• 1:01:50
  It's great.
• 1:01:51
  That one's my favorite
• 1:01:53
  programming out of any of
• 1:01:54
  the comps so far.
• 1:01:55
  I love that they're not
• 1:01:56
  doing heavy as well.
• 1:01:57
  Me too.
• 1:01:58
  Thank God.
• 1:02:01
  I'm jealous of their programming.
• 1:02:02
  How do you really feel, Carolyn?
• 1:02:05
  I really like the Torian one.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah.
• 1:02:10
  Ken gets it.
• 1:02:11
  Question three hit the score spot.
• 1:02:13
  Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  Well, I just think that it's such a non,
• 1:02:18
  like it's so disadvantaged
• 1:02:20
  for other athletes.
• 1:02:22
  Like it's,
• 1:02:23
  I don't think a training camp
• 1:02:25
  should be programming for
• 1:02:26
  sending people to the games.
• 1:02:27
  I don't care if,
• 1:02:30
  they don't tell their athletes or whatnot.
• 1:02:32
  It's the fact that you're
• 1:02:34
  still training these athletes.
• 1:02:35
  It doesn't look good.
• 1:02:37
  It doesn't look good.
• 1:02:39
  Just like when you have a
• 1:02:42
  well sister on the demo
• 1:02:43
  team and the other one's competing,
• 1:02:46
  it doesn't look good.
• 1:02:48
  You can't have people
• 1:02:50
  testing your workouts.
• 1:02:53
  Don't tell people, you know,
• 1:02:56
  James Sprague on the demo team,
• 1:02:58
  other people, tutor, whatever,
• 1:03:00
  like you can't have buddies
• 1:03:02
  of people testing workouts.
• 1:03:05
  It's hard to find.
• 1:03:06
  I get that.
• 1:03:08
  But the appearance of them
• 1:03:11
  programming everything,
• 1:03:13
  it's not a good look.
• 1:03:19
  Yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Benita says appearance of
• 1:03:21
  conflict of interest.
• 1:03:22
  Absolutely.
• 1:03:25
  And I'm not saying that they're telling,
• 1:03:26
  I'm just saying it doesn't look good.
• 1:03:30
  In a sport of unknown,
• 1:03:31
  you can't have that.
• 1:03:32
  In a sport of unknown,
• 1:03:33
  you can't have that.
• 1:03:35
  If they're going to do it,
• 1:03:35
  they need to have like a
• 1:03:36
  clear delineation between
• 1:03:38
  the person that programs
• 1:03:39
  and the rest of the entity.
• 1:03:43
  And I don't know how you can
• 1:03:44
  do that when you own the company.
• 1:03:52
  Right.
• 1:03:52
  And I just think you need to
• 1:03:53
  find someone that's going to program.
• 1:03:55
  season like take care of the
• 1:03:57
  semifinals and that's the
• 1:03:59
  responsibility for the year
• 1:04:01
  and if you're not able to
• 1:04:02
  do it pick someone else but
• 1:04:03
  they can't be related to a
• 1:04:04
  training camp and stuff
• 1:04:05
  like that it's not an
• 1:04:07
  appearance it is a conflict
• 1:04:09
  of interest that major yeah
• 1:04:17
  it's like it's so dumb
• 1:04:20
  And like, yeah,
• 1:04:20
  we'll still show up and
• 1:04:21
  compete and everyone does
• 1:04:22
  their best and their
• 1:04:23
  athletes may not qualify,
• 1:04:25
  but it's still doesn't look good to me.
• 1:04:29
  It's not professional at all.
• 1:04:30
  All right.
• 1:04:33
  We're going to keep that
• 1:04:34
  game off to come up with
• 1:04:35
  new categories every week.
• 1:04:37
  But I like, I like that game.
• 1:04:39
  Yeah.
• 1:04:41
  I have to come up with a
• 1:04:41
  couple that aren't facts though.
• 1:04:43
  I need some things that are fiction.
• 1:04:46
  I gave you two fictions there.
• 1:04:50
  Uh, Clinton, he says, WFP nailed this.
• 1:04:54
  We'll did all the
• 1:04:54
  programming and will and
• 1:04:56
  Saxon did all the testing.
• 1:04:57
  Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Keep it small.
• 1:04:59
  Nobody knows.
• 1:05:00
  That's the thing is you need
• 1:05:01
  to have someone that's
• 1:05:02
  either like knows the time domains,
• 1:05:06
  knows the stimulus,
• 1:05:08
  doesn't need to have a bunch of testers.
• 1:05:11
  Right.
• 1:05:12
  And if you're not that person,
• 1:05:13
  then you need to do your
• 1:05:14
  homework and study a lot more CrossFit.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah.
• 1:05:16
  Because you should be able
• 1:05:17
  to program a workout and
• 1:05:18
  have a pretty good idea of –
• 1:05:21
  where the top scores are and
• 1:05:22
  where the bottleneck is for
• 1:05:24
  your average field of athletes.
• 1:05:26
  Like you need to study more
• 1:05:28
  competitions and results of
• 1:05:30
  different types of workouts
• 1:05:31
  so that you're able to
• 1:05:32
  program and not need all of
• 1:05:34
  these people to test your
• 1:05:35
  workouts and all of these
• 1:05:38
  people come to coming together.
• 1:05:39
  Like a few people,
• 1:05:41
  I think to program like two,
• 1:05:43
  maybe three at most.
• 1:05:44
  Once you start going more to that,
• 1:05:46
  like around that, it's just,
• 1:05:48
  it's a bunch of leaks.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Fact or fiction,
• 1:05:54
  it's okay that Will didn't
• 1:05:55
  have a female test the events.
• 1:06:04
  I don't know.
• 1:06:06
  I mean, Carolyn's right.
• 1:06:08
  You should be able to look
• 1:06:10
  at time domains.
• 1:06:11
  You should be able to know
• 1:06:12
  what thirty wild balls takes.
• 1:06:14
  You should be able to.
• 1:06:17
  But it would be nice if you had a woman.
• 1:06:20
  I don't think you need to,
• 1:06:21
  but I think you need to
• 1:06:22
  study the sport and know
• 1:06:23
  that the same amount of
• 1:06:25
  legless rope climbs,
• 1:06:26
  the females are not there.
• 1:06:27
  It's a different workout for females.
• 1:06:31
  If you want to get the same
• 1:06:32
  workout stimulus of what
• 1:06:35
  your brain is thinking of
• 1:06:36
  putting on paper,
• 1:06:37
  then you need to study more
• 1:06:39
  the female side.
• 1:06:40
  If you've only focused on
• 1:06:41
  the male side because
• 1:06:42
  that's where you competed your whole life,
• 1:06:44
  I think that you have to take
• 1:06:46
  you know,
• 1:06:47
  take a look at a lot of different
• 1:06:48
  samples of different events.
• 1:06:50
  What is the number of
• 1:06:51
  legless rope climbs that
• 1:06:52
  females are able to do in
• 1:06:53
  this time domain paired with, you know,
• 1:06:56
  grip intensive stuff?
• 1:06:57
  What is it?
• 1:06:57
  What is it like paired with a cardio?
• 1:06:59
  What is it like paired with
• 1:07:00
  a shoulder fatigue?
• 1:07:03
  Because all of those like
• 1:07:04
  impact how good some,
• 1:07:06
  some of the females are in
• 1:07:08
  certain movements where we
• 1:07:09
  lag behind like the males.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah.
• 1:07:13
  So I don't think you need to,
• 1:07:15
  But I think that you should
• 1:07:16
  be studying constantly.
• 1:07:20
  Fluffy Fitz is maybe didn't
• 1:07:21
  didn't say who he has said
• 1:07:23
  on Boys Interrupted that it
• 1:07:24
  was just him and Saxon.
• 1:07:27
  And Jackson did somebody
• 1:07:28
  didn't get really any good
• 1:07:30
  data from that.
• 1:07:34
  Garrett says fiction.
• 1:07:41
  Fiction, not cool, bro.
• 1:07:42
  Right.
• 1:07:46
  All right, cool.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, I like that.
• 1:07:47
  We'll have to bring that
• 1:07:48
  back as we move forward.
• 1:07:52
  All right,
• 1:07:53
  previewing the four events
• 1:07:54
  coming up this weekend.
• 1:07:55
  Four, count them,
• 1:07:57
  four events this weekend.
• 1:08:00
  We have Syndicate Crown,
• 1:08:01
  we have Fari Throwdown,
• 1:08:02
  we have the Taurean Pro,
• 1:08:03
  and we have Rebel Renegade Games.
• 1:08:08
  Let's start with the
• 1:08:10
  Syndicate Crown event.
• 1:08:17
  And here is the men's lineup
• 1:08:19
  for the syndicate crown.
• 1:08:24
  No kale.
• 1:08:27
  No cow.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, Lehman.
• 1:08:31
  CrossFit Instagram should be
• 1:08:33
  posting a lot more about
• 1:08:34
  these four events coming up
• 1:08:35
  and really pumping people
• 1:08:37
  towards where they can
• 1:08:37
  watch it this weekend and whatnot.
• 1:08:40
  I just went quickly on the
• 1:08:41
  CrossFit Games website.
• 1:08:43
  If the events have tagged them,
• 1:08:45
  they'll accept some of the tagging,
• 1:08:46
  but they should be all week,
• 1:08:49
  especially with four events going on,
• 1:08:51
  really...
• 1:08:53
  driving people to those
• 1:08:54
  competitions whether it's
• 1:08:56
  online or to the actual
• 1:08:58
  venues on where people can
• 1:09:00
  purchase tickets I think
• 1:09:00
  there's there can be a
• 1:09:01
  better job there so I have
• 1:09:04
  seen versions of this with
• 1:09:08
  kale layman crossed off
• 1:09:09
  yeah I have to I don't know
• 1:09:11
  if it's official because I
• 1:09:12
  did not I only saw it on
• 1:09:14
  like killer site and some
• 1:09:16
  other people I have not
• 1:09:17
  seen anything from
• 1:09:18
  syndicate I'm saying that
• 1:09:19
  that would be interesting
• 1:09:24
  Here we have, again,
• 1:09:26
  it's a little bit of a depleted field.
• 1:09:29
  I'll hit you with the highlights.
• 1:09:31
  Ben Smith is going to be there.
• 1:09:37
  George Sterner, Jack Rosema, Ty Jenkins,
• 1:09:44
  Spencer Pancheck, Seth Stovall,
• 1:09:52
  Luke Parker.
• 1:09:56
  Who are your picks to get
• 1:09:58
  the two spots from that group of people?
• 1:10:04
  I like Jack Rose.
• 1:10:06
  I think Ty will be
• 1:10:07
  competitive fighting for
• 1:10:09
  one of those spots.
• 1:10:19
  George Sterner will be in the mix.
• 1:10:21
  Spencer,
• 1:10:22
  he's had some good comps and then
• 1:10:24
  he's had some comps where he's
• 1:10:26
  struggled a little bit.
• 1:10:32
  He wasn't at WFP, was he?
• 1:10:35
  No.
• 1:10:36
  Mayhem.
• 1:10:40
  I'm trying to think who will
• 1:10:41
  do good at these events.
• 1:10:43
  The Ron Yoke and the Hundreds.
• 1:10:47
  I think this is Seth Stovall's time.
• 1:10:49
  I think Seth is going to
• 1:10:50
  have an excellent shot out of this.
• 1:10:52
  He was just out last year, right?
• 1:10:53
  He was right outside.
• 1:10:57
  So my pick is Seth,
• 1:10:59
  and I'm going to go with Jack Rosema.
• 1:11:01
  I don't think he's a good enough runner.
• 1:11:02
  I think that one's going to hurt him,
• 1:11:03
  the run yoke,
• 1:11:04
  and I actually don't think
• 1:11:05
  he's going to do excellent
• 1:11:06
  at the hundreds either.
• 1:11:10
  But I could be wrong.
• 1:11:12
  Well, pick your names then, ma'am.
• 1:11:14
  I don't – I mean – I do
• 1:11:18
  think Seth is – He'll be in
• 1:11:21
  the mix for sure, yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Yeah.
• 1:11:24
  I don't know enough about Ty –
• 1:11:27
  Luke would be my other thought process,
• 1:11:29
  just being a mayhem athlete.
• 1:11:30
  And it's not,
• 1:11:31
  it's not very top heavy though.
• 1:11:33
  It's wide open.
• 1:11:35
  Like there's no shoe in here.
• 1:11:38
  No, I don't take us as Seth and Luke.
• 1:11:40
  Yeah.
• 1:11:41
  Um, Kenneth delapses.
• 1:11:42
  I'm going with Jenkins and Parker.
• 1:11:44
  I don't know.
• 1:11:45
  I don't know enough about Ty.
• 1:11:47
  It's like, I don't know if he's an,
• 1:11:49
  a good runner.
• 1:11:49
  I don't know if he's a good
• 1:11:51
  endurance athlete.
• 1:11:51
  Like, will he survive that hundreds?
• 1:11:54
  I know he's really strong I
• 1:11:56
  don't know about his
• 1:11:58
  running ability right like
• 1:12:00
  I feel like he could be
• 1:12:01
  kind of like jack like
• 1:12:03
  they're like I think jack's
• 1:12:04
  gonna I mean jackson
• 1:12:05
  crushed the heavy isabel
• 1:12:08
  but I think there's gonna
• 1:12:09
  be some others that sort of
• 1:12:09
  hurt him all right let's go
• 1:12:13
  the women's side uh we have
• 1:12:16
  the well sisters we have
• 1:12:17
  caroline stanley um elizabeth wisharts
• 1:12:24
  erica folo haley rolfe uh
• 1:12:30
  kira miller christine best
• 1:12:33
  kyra milligan lexi neely
• 1:12:36
  lydia fish shelby neal
• 1:12:53
  Any picks on this one?
• 1:12:53
  I like Caroline Stanley.
• 1:12:54
  I think she's well-rounded.
• 1:12:56
  She's a good runner.
• 1:12:57
  She's strong, good gymnast.
• 1:12:58
  I think no major holes in her games.
• 1:13:02
  I expect her to take a spot
• 1:13:04
  from this field.
• 1:13:06
  I think Brooke can have another spot here.
• 1:13:10
  I think those two are the
• 1:13:12
  two front runners for me in this field.
• 1:13:16
  And then in the mix...
• 1:13:20
  Um, I'll root for my friend,
• 1:13:22
  Elizabeth Wishart.
• 1:13:25
  Um,
• 1:13:25
  follow should do well on some of these.
• 1:13:31
  Shelby hasn't had a great
• 1:13:33
  start to the year.
• 1:13:34
  I don't know if she has an injury,
• 1:13:35
  if she'd just been busy
• 1:13:37
  with school or work or
• 1:13:39
  something like that.
• 1:13:40
  She didn't look particularly
• 1:13:42
  herself at mayhem because
• 1:13:44
  normally I'm a huge, uh, Shelby Neal fan.
• 1:13:47
  Um,
• 1:13:50
  I'm gonna say Rachel closing.
• 1:13:51
  Okay, eight day team member.
• 1:13:58
  She's incredible.
• 1:14:00
  Her endurance is incredible.
• 1:14:01
  She's in it.
• 1:14:02
  I think she'll do really
• 1:14:03
  well in the hundreds and the run yoke.
• 1:14:07
  I am going to take Caroline
• 1:14:09
  Stanley is the shoe in.
• 1:14:11
  And then my second place I'm
• 1:14:13
  taking Lexi Neely.
• 1:14:15
  Like Kyra will be really
• 1:14:16
  good at a lot of these.
• 1:14:17
  It's just the one running
• 1:14:18
  that she has to survive.
• 1:14:22
  And unfortunately,
• 1:14:23
  I just don't know that the
• 1:14:24
  other ones will have as low
• 1:14:26
  of a finish that she may
• 1:14:27
  have on that one.
• 1:14:29
  But Kyra's got some good
• 1:14:32
  skills on some of these
• 1:14:33
  workouts that are coming out.
• 1:14:36
  Lexi made the games last year,
• 1:14:37
  and I think she's only gotten better.
• 1:14:40
  And I really think she has a chance.
• 1:14:42
  So that's my pick.
• 1:14:48
  all right so that is the
• 1:14:51
  syndicate crown so let's go
• 1:14:53
  to the next one which is I
• 1:14:57
  think the far east which
• 1:15:04
  they did not right they're
• 1:15:07
  the ones that didn't
• 1:15:08
  they're the ones on
• 1:15:09
  competition I gotta change
• 1:15:11
  this then they're on yeah here we go
• 1:15:20
  Far East Throwdown.
• 1:15:21
  Well, my big question going into this is,
• 1:15:25
  and my question on the last one was,
• 1:15:27
  do the Wells sisters qualify?
• 1:15:30
  Because it's their last opportunity,
• 1:15:32
  pretty much.
• 1:15:33
  This would be the first year
• 1:15:34
  that one of them hasn't qualified,
• 1:15:36
  if they both, right?
• 1:15:38
  I think that Sydney has
• 1:15:40
  signed up for NorCal right now.
• 1:15:43
  I mean, at this point,
• 1:15:44
  anyone that doesn't qualify
• 1:15:46
  through here is going to
• 1:15:46
  get an invite at NorCal
• 1:15:47
  because they're just inviting anyone.
• 1:15:50
  last minute.
• 1:15:51
  Um,
• 1:15:52
  so who knows how many of these athletes
• 1:15:53
  will join the last game?
• 1:15:59
  I think they both have a good shot.
• 1:16:01
  I think, yeah, I think they've,
• 1:16:02
  I think Brooke has a better shot.
• 1:16:04
  She's less holes than Sydney,
• 1:16:06
  but they finished
• 1:16:08
  relatively close to each other.
• 1:16:09
  I think in the WFP, right, right,
• 1:16:11
  right next to each other, maybe.
• 1:16:14
  So Sydney is catching up on,
• 1:16:15
  on a lot of her, um, fitness.
• 1:16:20
  All right,
• 1:16:21
  so I don't know a lot of these names.
• 1:16:23
  I'm going to give you what I know.
• 1:16:24
  I know Amy Hosking is,
• 1:16:26
  we've had her on the show a
• 1:16:27
  couple times for semifinal series.
• 1:16:30
  She's from Canada.
• 1:16:32
  Dwan Young made it to the games last year,
• 1:16:35
  correct?
• 1:16:36
  Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Janine.
• 1:16:43
  Leah Storen will do well here.
• 1:16:47
  Leah Storen.
• 1:16:49
  Is this the one that doesn't have a run?
• 1:16:51
  I don't think this one has a run.
• 1:16:52
  Or one of the events will have a run.
• 1:16:54
  So here, Kaya.
• 1:16:56
  She's a young choice here,
• 1:16:57
  but she's already qualified.
• 1:17:01
  I think it's between Kaya and Storen.
• 1:17:08
  Broke it.
• 1:17:11
  There we go.
• 1:17:13
  No running, but a one rep max jerk,
• 1:17:15
  according to Dew.
• 1:17:21
  So here we only get one
• 1:17:22
  invite to the games.
• 1:17:24
  We double check that before the show.
• 1:17:28
  I think it's Zaheer Kaya.
• 1:17:31
  Her and Shung Young Choi
• 1:17:32
  have dominated for a long time.
• 1:17:37
  You've invited other people now.
• 1:17:38
  I think Storen is right there with Kaya.
• 1:17:42
  They're both,
• 1:17:43
  they're both Kriger athletes too,
• 1:17:44
  I believe.
• 1:17:47
  Krieger, Krieger, how do you say it?
• 1:17:49
  Krieger.
• 1:17:49
  Krieger.
• 1:17:56
  Okay.
• 1:17:58
  And then on the men's side,
• 1:18:00
  it's a tough time.
• 1:18:01
  When you have fields like
• 1:18:02
  this that don't have the depth,
• 1:18:04
  it becomes one, two, one, two, one.
• 1:18:06
  You have one bad event and you're screwed.
• 1:18:07
  We saw that happen with Guy
• 1:18:09
  a few years ago in Brazil.
• 1:18:11
  Right?
• 1:18:11
  So if you have a hole,
• 1:18:13
  when the field isn't deep like this,
• 1:18:15
  like you better hope that
• 1:18:17
  that one person that you're
• 1:18:18
  just always going back and
• 1:18:19
  forth with has some sort of
• 1:18:21
  execution error or something like that.
• 1:18:22
  Cause these types of comps
• 1:18:24
  are hard because like no
• 1:18:26
  one's getting in between.
• 1:18:28
  You're always in the mix.
• 1:18:29
  You're one error away from losing it.
• 1:18:34
  Those are stressful type of competitions.
• 1:18:40
  I got to be honest with you.
• 1:18:42
  I am not deep on my Far East men.
• 1:18:48
  No one from outside of?
• 1:18:51
  I don't really see anybody from outside.
• 1:18:54
  Ricardo Garcia, I'm assuming,
• 1:18:56
  is from outside, but I don't
• 1:18:57
  What about Haynes?
• 1:18:59
  He is here.
• 1:19:02
  But what?
• 1:19:02
  He's like thirty nine now.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah.
• 1:19:06
  Elia Mark.
• 1:19:07
  Is that the one that could
• 1:19:08
  be a weightlifter?
• 1:19:10
  Was that the one that
• 1:19:10
  couldn't travel last year
• 1:19:12
  or one of those?
• 1:19:16
  Maybe that guy.
• 1:19:17
  I don't know why.
• 1:19:18
  Maybe the name just sounds familiar.
• 1:19:19
  Mark Mucker off.
• 1:19:21
  Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Didn't last year they have
• 1:19:25
  like five people test positive.
• 1:19:27
  That's why I recognize that name.
• 1:19:28
  And maybe one of the
• 1:19:29
  athletes had the same first
• 1:19:30
  name and maybe that's what
• 1:19:31
  I'm getting confused with.
• 1:19:36
  So that depleted the, the,
• 1:19:37
  the lot a lot as well,
• 1:19:39
  but there's aunt Haynes, um,
• 1:19:42
  Andre Fedotov.
• 1:19:43
  I'd heard that name before.
• 1:19:50
  Yeah,
• 1:19:50
  I can't give you an educator on Far East.
• 1:19:52
  I'm just saying.
• 1:19:53
  On the men's side, no,
• 1:19:54
  but on the woman's side, more.
• 1:19:55
  Ilya was the weightlifter
• 1:19:56
  that was at NorCal.
• 1:20:05
  Keeping it real, FYI, I was catching up.
• 1:20:09
  Ty's best features is running.
• 1:20:10
  He did five K the other day in eighteen.
• 1:20:13
  He can run for days and swims even better.
• 1:20:16
  And I know they're tight.
• 1:20:18
  I mean,
• 1:20:18
  if you're a two or three-time or
• 1:20:22
  two-time teen champ,
• 1:20:25
  he would have been well-rounded.
• 1:20:28
  Yeah,
• 1:20:28
  but he's just like nineteen twenty now,
• 1:20:30
  right?
• 1:20:32
  He's like two years out.
• 1:20:35
  Yeah, I think he's nineteen twenty.
• 1:20:38
  I don't know, I guess Grant will tell us.
• 1:20:43
  So there's that.
• 1:20:44
  We have our picks for the women.
• 1:20:45
  I have no idea on the men.
• 1:20:48
  Let's look at the last two,
• 1:20:49
  which is Torian.
• 1:20:50
  Sure.
• 1:20:50
  Here we go.
• 1:21:00
  Now they did theirs in multiple pages.
• 1:21:03
  So he just turned nineteen.
• 1:21:06
  All right.
• 1:21:07
  Pro individual females.
• 1:21:09
  We have Haley Adams.
• 1:21:11
  Hannah Black.
• 1:21:13
  The other Haley Adams.
• 1:21:14
  Yeah.
• 1:21:15
  Emily Clements.
• 1:21:17
  Emily DeRoy.
• 1:21:20
  Gemma Ellis.
• 1:21:23
  Julia Hannaford.
• 1:21:25
  Hannah Hardy.
• 1:21:26
  Gemma Houck.
• 1:21:32
  Daisy McDonald.
• 1:21:38
  Maddie Sturt, who's already qualified.
• 1:21:41
  Tia Claire Toomey.
• 1:21:43
  Gracie Walton, who's already qualified.
• 1:21:47
  And that's the list of women.
• 1:21:55
  Tia.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah, Tia.
• 1:21:56
  Tia, maybe Daisy.
• 1:21:58
  Maybe Emily DeRoy.
• 1:21:59
  She had some team experience last year,
• 1:22:01
  won.
• 1:22:04
  Could maybe qualify here
• 1:22:05
  individually again.
• 1:22:09
  Uh,
• 1:22:10
  trying to look at the names on my phone.
• 1:22:15
  It's hard because I feel
• 1:22:16
  like is everyone on this
• 1:22:18
  list even eligible?
• 1:22:20
  Like, I don't even know.
• 1:22:24
  I'll be surprised if Hannah
• 1:22:27
  black does very, very well here.
• 1:22:29
  She had a really good competition at TFX.
• 1:22:32
  These events for Torian are
• 1:22:33
  very high skilled.
• 1:22:35
  Um,
• 1:22:38
  are some strength stuff but
• 1:22:39
  there are like strict
• 1:22:40
  handstand push-ups ring
• 1:22:42
  muscle ups bar muscle ups
• 1:22:43
  like this rope climbs like
• 1:22:45
  a lot more gymnastics heavy
• 1:22:47
  I think um georgia priors
• 1:22:52
  here too I didn't mention
• 1:22:53
  her I love her so I'd be
• 1:22:57
  curious to see because I
• 1:22:58
  was very impressed with
• 1:22:59
  hannah at tfx but also
• 1:23:04
  conscious in my evaluation
• 1:23:05
  of her because of the
• 1:23:07
  programming that was there
• 1:23:09
  although I do think that
• 1:23:10
  she's closed down on a lot
• 1:23:11
  of the holes that she had I
• 1:23:13
  think she's definitely
• 1:23:13
  improved her fitness but in
• 1:23:15
  this particular event I
• 1:23:16
  think won't translate maybe
• 1:23:18
  as as much plus she's
• 1:23:19
  traveling but tia um emily
• 1:23:23
  deroy daisy mcdonald from
• 1:23:25
  last year's games could do
• 1:23:27
  well there's a few of them
• 1:23:29
  I think there's going to be
• 1:23:30
  like four or five of them
• 1:23:31
  really in in the mix
• 1:23:32
  What I find fascinating
• 1:23:34
  about this is if Tia does
• 1:23:36
  not accept her bid... She will.
• 1:23:38
  It could be fourth place
• 1:23:39
  before you get... Because
• 1:23:42
  Maddie's third and Gracie
• 1:23:43
  Walton could finish second and third.
• 1:23:46
  I'm saying if.
• 1:23:48
  I'm not saying I believe it.
• 1:23:49
  I'm just saying if.
• 1:23:53
  I don't believe.
• 1:23:53
  I do believe she's going to take the bid.
• 1:23:55
  I'm just saying if she doesn't.
• 1:24:01
  So, yeah.
• 1:24:01
  I...
• 1:24:03
  yeah georgia pryor forgot
• 1:24:04
  about her I'd probably go
• 1:24:07
  georgia pryor and daisy
• 1:24:08
  mcdonald personally and tia
• 1:24:16
  I'm anxious to see what tia
• 1:24:17
  looks like here if she's
• 1:24:19
  just gonna look like her
• 1:24:22
  regular self because like
• 1:24:24
  we didn't see her regular
• 1:24:25
  self in in the open right um right
• 1:24:30
  So I'm just curious what
• 1:24:31
  she'll be like here.
• 1:24:33
  She wants to put on a show
• 1:24:34
  for her home crowd.
• 1:24:36
  Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  No doubt.
• 1:24:38
  We've talked about this a lot, Ken.
• 1:24:40
  Don't you think that if
• 1:24:41
  someone already qualified,
• 1:24:42
  it should be a blanket rule
• 1:24:43
  you can't compete like Syndicate did?
• 1:24:45
  Those people can be disruptors.
• 1:24:47
  We believe that wholeheartedly.
• 1:24:49
  But when CrossFit lets go of
• 1:24:51
  control of all of that stuff,
• 1:24:54
  These events can do whatever they want,
• 1:24:56
  and they want the big names
• 1:24:57
  there to draw in a crowd.
• 1:24:59
  So if you leave it up to Torian,
• 1:25:01
  Torian wants Maddie Sturt there,
• 1:25:04
  and they want Gracie Walton
• 1:25:05
  there because they're going
• 1:25:06
  to bring people into the seats.
• 1:25:09
  I can't blame the event
• 1:25:10
  organizer for that.
• 1:25:12
  And that's all because
• 1:25:13
  CrossFit has not taken over and said,
• 1:25:16
  these are the rules we're
• 1:25:17
  abiding by for all
• 1:25:19
  in-person qualifying events.
• 1:25:26
  It is very frustrating.
• 1:25:31
  On the men's side,
• 1:25:32
  we have the same problem
• 1:25:33
  where Jay Crouch is already qualified.
• 1:25:35
  He's going to compete.
• 1:25:36
  Royce Dunn will be there.
• 1:25:37
  Peter Ellis.
• 1:25:40
  Ben Garrard.
• 1:25:41
  Ricky Garrard already qualified.
• 1:25:47
  William Kearney.
• 1:25:49
  Guy Mejeros is not eligible
• 1:25:52
  and is competing.
• 1:25:53
  Bailey Martin.
• 1:25:57
  And Con Porter.
• 1:26:03
  Brandon Swan.
• 1:26:05
  Brandon Swan.
• 1:26:08
  And that is your list of men.
• 1:26:10
  I think the favorite there
• 1:26:11
  is Bailey Martin based off
• 1:26:15
  the last couple of years.
• 1:26:16
  And then I might see.
• 1:26:21
  I think Peter Ellis.
• 1:26:22
  It's his year.
• 1:26:23
  Yeah, that's a good pick.
• 1:26:25
  And the other two have already qualified.
• 1:26:27
  It just makes it a... He's
• 1:26:29
  always been in the hunt.
• 1:26:31
  Royce Dunn could...
• 1:26:32
  Depending on programming,
• 1:26:33
  Royce Dunn could be in the mix.
• 1:26:35
  Royce has some really good
• 1:26:36
  gymnastics skills.
• 1:26:38
  And he's strong.
• 1:26:38
  Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  He should have went to one
• 1:26:42
  that may have programmed, though.
• 1:26:43
  I think Luke DeJong could do well.
• 1:27:00
  Oh, man.
• 1:27:02
  Sometimes with my glasses,
• 1:27:04
  I only catch things kind of,
• 1:27:06
  and my twelve-year-old
• 1:27:08
  brain sees things it shouldn't see.
• 1:27:15
  So...
• 1:27:16
  All right.
• 1:27:17
  So with there, we have, again,
• 1:27:19
  we have like three people
• 1:27:21
  that could really mess up
• 1:27:22
  the leaderboard who cannot
• 1:27:23
  go to the games from here
• 1:27:25
  or have already qualified for the games.
• 1:27:32
  So, all right.
• 1:27:37
  I do want to kind of address this.
• 1:27:38
  Royce did.
• 1:27:39
  He was at mayhem classic.
• 1:27:40
  I agree with you that he was there,
• 1:27:42
  but that field was so deep
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  for two people.
• 1:27:46
  So deep.
• 1:27:47
  Now we're getting into this
• 1:27:48
  later end of the season,
• 1:27:50
  and it's all jacked up with
• 1:27:52
  not a lot of people.
• 1:27:54
  I think they're all going to NorCal.
• 1:27:56
  I think the most stacked one
• 1:27:59
  from the whole year is Mayhem and NorCal.
• 1:28:03
  Easily.
• 1:28:03
  And I think this is
• 1:28:05
  something we can address
• 1:28:06
  with a later rundown if we have time.
• 1:28:07
  We don't.
• 1:28:08
  We're already at time.
• 1:28:09
  like the first and last
• 1:28:10
  everyone picked those ones
• 1:28:13
  and some of these middle
• 1:28:14
  ones that were like around
• 1:28:15
  the online affiliate
• 1:28:16
  semifinals were a little
• 1:28:19
  bit less um people oh yeah
• 1:28:22
  all we have left is rebel
• 1:28:24
  renegade games and I'm not
• 1:28:25
  going to waste a lot of
• 1:28:26
  time by trying to preview
• 1:28:27
  that because it's sarah
• 1:28:29
  sigmund's daughter's last
• 1:28:32
  yes one last and only shot
• 1:28:35
  to make the games if she
• 1:28:37
  makes it it she'll she'll
• 1:28:38
  get there if not it's done
• 1:28:40
  it's we're done over her
• 1:28:42
  biggest competition will be
• 1:28:44
  evie hollis I think or that
• 1:28:46
  christine limited takas
• 1:28:49
  christine what that flew
• 1:28:52
  out of it way too smooth
• 1:28:54
  sounds like you had like
• 1:28:55
  phlegm in your throat
• 1:29:01
  I don't know how you say it,
• 1:29:01
  something like that.
• 1:29:04
  Sure.
• 1:29:05
  So that's really the preview
• 1:29:06
  for the Renegade Games.
• 1:29:10
  And there's that.
• 1:29:11
  So the last thing I had on
• 1:29:12
  my list was the
• 1:29:15
  construction of the season
• 1:29:18
  and how can we fix it.
• 1:29:20
  And I saw a thing that Hiller put out.
• 1:29:23
  I really did like agree with
• 1:29:25
  a lot and that is the in
• 1:29:28
  affiliate online semi-final
• 1:29:30
  should be the last
• 1:29:32
  qualifying event of the
• 1:29:34
  year the last chance
• 1:29:36
  qualifier it should be the
• 1:29:38
  last chance qualifier and
• 1:29:40
  whatever spots are left
• 1:29:41
  that haven't already been
• 1:29:42
  doled out with the in-person
• 1:29:47
  qualifying events.
• 1:29:49
  So you have your syndicates, your mayhems,
• 1:29:50
  your Torians, your rebel renegades,
• 1:29:53
  and you hand out however
• 1:29:54
  many tickets everybody was.
• 1:29:57
  When that's all done,
• 1:29:58
  you have one last online in
• 1:30:02
  affiliate semifinal.
• 1:30:03
  And however many spots are left,
• 1:30:05
  that's your last chance to qualify,
• 1:30:08
  whether it's one spot or
• 1:30:09
  eleven spots or eight spots or whatever.
• 1:30:12
  You roll them all up into that last one.
• 1:30:15
  That way,
• 1:30:15
  all of the in-person events can
• 1:30:17
  get the people they need to
• 1:30:19
  get there to draw butts in the seats,
• 1:30:23
  do all the things they need
• 1:30:24
  to do to make it beneficial
• 1:30:26
  for them to put money
• 1:30:28
  forward to run this part of
• 1:30:29
  the season for CrossFit.
• 1:30:31
  And then you have this one
• 1:30:33
  big last chance qualifier
• 1:30:36
  for everybody for how many
• 1:30:37
  spots are left.
• 1:30:40
  That seems so simple.
• 1:30:42
  What are the chances that
• 1:30:43
  CrossFit makes that change next year?
• 1:30:47
  Slim to none.
• 1:30:47
  Yeah.
• 1:30:58
  Do you think there's any
• 1:30:58
  other way to fix it?
• 1:31:03
  Don't outsource the programming.
• 1:31:11
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:31:12
  I don't like that.
• 1:31:16
  I was never a huge fan of
• 1:31:17
  the depth of the strength
• 1:31:18
  of field calculations and stuff,
• 1:31:20
  but I don't like the way
• 1:31:22
  this season is going with just like,
• 1:31:23
  here's your two, here's your two.
• 1:31:24
  Yeah,
• 1:31:25
  two's not enough for some of these spots.
• 1:31:32
  The people at Mayhem, like,
• 1:31:35
  That should have been more than two spots.
• 1:31:36
  Yeah.
• 1:31:38
  Completely.
• 1:31:39
  And Brazil should not have been two.
• 1:31:41
  No.
• 1:31:43
  No.
• 1:31:45
  But like everything in between,
• 1:31:47
  I don't know how you figure all that out.
• 1:31:50
  I think it would be easier
• 1:31:51
  to figure out if you didn't
• 1:31:52
  have the online version already.
• 1:31:56
  Yeah.
• 1:31:57
  Like if TFX had Ariel and
• 1:31:59
  Emily and all of the West, Hattie and...
• 1:32:05
  the people I can think of
• 1:32:05
  from there abby all those
• 1:32:08
  people right that becomes a
• 1:32:10
  much stronger event than
• 1:32:11
  what we ended up having
• 1:32:13
  yeah do you do like only
• 1:32:16
  two in like north america
• 1:32:18
  but you can go to either or
• 1:32:21
  same amount of spots but
• 1:32:22
  you can go to either or and
• 1:32:23
  you can compete more than
• 1:32:24
  and you can compete at both
• 1:32:25
  of them I'm okay with three
• 1:32:31
  in north america
• 1:32:32
  But, like, when you give more people,
• 1:32:34
  you give more spots.
• 1:32:36
  Right.
• 1:32:36
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:40
  Right.
• 1:32:40
  I think there should be, like,
• 1:32:41
  one over in Europe, two in North America,
• 1:32:44
  and that's pretty much it.
• 1:32:46
  Well,
• 1:32:46
  I don't think we thought so many
• 1:32:48
  people would not do the season in Europe.
• 1:32:51
  If everybody does the season,
• 1:32:52
  then Europe probably needs two.
• 1:33:00
  yeah I don't know if they
• 1:33:03
  have like if you grab
• 1:33:05
  cluny's comment if they
• 1:33:06
  have more than three events
• 1:33:09
  in the open you could do
• 1:33:11
  something like that where
• 1:33:12
  like the top three from the
• 1:33:13
  open um get a spot to the
• 1:33:16
  games and it makes the open
• 1:33:17
  matter um you'll have to
• 1:33:20
  have open videos for that yep
• 1:33:24
  happen um or you have to
• 1:33:26
  actually significantly look
• 1:33:28
  at the videos from first
• 1:33:30
  place to thirtieth place
• 1:33:33
  one to four or five of the
• 1:33:34
  events because then you
• 1:33:36
  could do that but if you
• 1:33:38
  don't have video review
• 1:33:39
  stuff for every single one
• 1:33:40
  of the workouts then you
• 1:33:41
  can't do that because when
• 1:33:43
  they did when they took
• 1:33:44
  from the open in twenty
• 1:33:45
  nineteen twenty twenty
• 1:33:47
  Like I gave all five of my
• 1:33:48
  workout videos to them and
• 1:33:50
  like you would assume that
• 1:33:52
  they looked at at least two
• 1:33:55
  to three of them in great detail.
• 1:34:00
  Well,
• 1:34:01
  there would have been a video review
• 1:34:02
  process, which should be the standard.
• 1:34:06
  And we wouldn't even have
• 1:34:07
  this issue right now.
• 1:34:09
  Yeah, Kenneth Lapp asked, if you did that,
• 1:34:10
  Clooney's,
• 1:34:11
  Kale Lehman would go to the games.
• 1:34:13
  Yeah,
• 1:34:14
  you would have to change the video
• 1:34:17
  process for sure.
• 1:34:24
  Yeah.
• 1:34:28
  All right.
• 1:34:29
  So, yeah, I.
• 1:34:34
  Yeah, I just saw that thing with Hiller,
• 1:34:37
  and then the other thing
• 1:34:38
  that struck this into my
• 1:34:39
  head is if you have not
• 1:34:41
  seen Seth Jumpship on
• 1:34:44
  Coffee Pods and Wads,
• 1:34:48
  I have become the biggest
• 1:34:50
  Seth Jumpship fan in the
• 1:34:53
  world because the
• 1:34:54
  level-headedness and the
• 1:34:55
  open-mindedness that he has
• 1:34:56
  in that interview is
• 1:34:58
  everything that I've been
• 1:34:59
  trying to say for a long time,
• 1:35:01
  and he said it better than I did.
• 1:35:04
  What interview is this one?
• 1:35:05
  A recent one?
• 1:35:06
  He was on with Coffee Pods and Wads,
• 1:35:08
  and they were debriefing
• 1:35:09
  the World Fitness Project's
• 1:35:12
  Tour Event One,
• 1:35:14
  and he just answered everything so well.
• 1:35:18
  I loved him on the desk.
• 1:35:19
  I thought he was extremely knowledgeable,
• 1:35:21
  well-spoken,
• 1:35:24
  gave great analysis of the
• 1:35:27
  field and the workout.
• 1:35:29
  He was awesome.
• 1:35:30
  Just a tidbit from that interview.
• 1:35:32
  He was asked if he was willing to do it.
• 1:35:34
  And he was surprised because
• 1:35:36
  he's kind of been out of
• 1:35:37
  the competitive CrossFit
• 1:35:38
  space in a while.
• 1:35:39
  He's just an affiliate owner
• 1:35:40
  now with five affiliates.
• 1:35:44
  But he said he thought about it.
• 1:35:45
  He's like,
• 1:35:46
  it was a really cool chance and
• 1:35:47
  cool opportunity to do.
• 1:35:49
  So he went to do it.
• 1:35:50
  And a week later,
• 1:35:51
  they sent him a contract with payment.
• 1:35:54
  And he didn't know he was getting paid.
• 1:35:55
  He thought he was volunteering to do it.
• 1:35:59
  He did a really good job.
• 1:36:00
  That's awesome.
• 1:36:01
  And he would have done it as
• 1:36:02
  a volunteer and then found
• 1:36:06
  out later that he's
• 1:36:07
  actually getting paid for it.
• 1:36:10
  And I thought that was great.
• 1:36:11
  He earned it.
• 1:36:12
  He did.
• 1:36:13
  He was really good.
• 1:36:15
  But he actually talks about
• 1:36:17
  here he is working for the
• 1:36:19
  WFP on the desk, right?
• 1:36:21
  But he owns five CrossFit affiliates.
• 1:36:25
  And he loves what CrossFit was,
• 1:36:27
  what it stood for, the methodology,
• 1:36:29
  the teachings, all of that stuff.
• 1:36:32
  And he wants that to survive.
• 1:36:35
  But he also knows we're in a
• 1:36:36
  new world where everything
• 1:36:39
  isn't rosy anymore.
• 1:36:41
  And so I thought he was awesome on there.
• 1:36:52
  And he said things in a way
• 1:36:53
  that I've been trying to say.
• 1:36:55
  And he just did it in a different way.
• 1:36:59
  I really enjoyed it.
• 1:37:00
  So if you have not seen it, check it out.
• 1:37:03
  I watched it on one and a half speed.
• 1:37:04
  Got through it pretty quick.
• 1:37:06
  It's a little over an hour.
• 1:37:09
  But they don't talk so fast
• 1:37:11
  in real life that the one
• 1:37:13
  and a half speed affects it too bad.
• 1:37:15
  So there's some people I can
• 1:37:17
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• 1:37:25
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• 1:37:27
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• 1:37:33
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• 1:37:34
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• 1:37:35
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• 1:37:36
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