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- 0:46Speaker 1: School of Humans. Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold
- 0:52Speaker 1: case murders in an effort to raise public awareness invite
- 0:55Speaker 1: witnesses to come forward and present evidence that could potentially
- 0:58Speaker 1: be further investigated by law enforcement. While we value insights
- 1:03Speaker 1: from family and community members, their statements should not be
- 1:06Speaker 1: considered evidence and point to the challenges of verifying facts
- 1:10Speaker 1: inherent in cold cases. We remind listeners that everyone has
- 1:14Speaker 1: presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Nothing in the podcast is intended to state or imply
- 1:21Speaker 1: that anyone who has not been convicted of a crime
- 1:24Speaker 1: is guilty of any wrongdoing. Thanks for listening.
- 1:32Speaker 2: On August twenty fourth, twenty twelve, a Vietnam veteran who
- 1:36Speaker 2: had been visiting the Lake Linear Club apartments off the
- 1:39Speaker 2: Dawsonville Highway in Gainesville, Georgia with his daughter and grandchildren,
- 1:43Speaker 2: was taking a walk through the woods behind the complex
- 1:47Speaker 2: the man light taking nature walks, and he was also
- 1:51Speaker 2: following up on a report that he had made to
- 1:53Speaker 2: the apartment management about a missing manhole cover. He later
- 1:57Speaker 2: told police he wanted to see if that manhole cover
- 1:59Speaker 2: had been replaced yet. It was around seven or seven
- 2:03Speaker 2: fifteen pm in the evening, still almost full daylight, and
- 2:08Speaker 2: when the man paused near a stream bed, he saw
- 2:11Speaker 2: something disturbing, something that he had first thought was a mannequin.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Upon closer inspection, he realized that he was looking at
- 2:20Speaker 2: a dead body, and he called nine to one one.
- 2:26Speaker 2: The young woman was sixteen year old Hannah Truelove, a
- 2:30Speaker 2: student at Gainesville High School. Hannah had been missing since
- 2:33Speaker 2: the night before, and even though her exact cause of
- 2:37Speaker 2: death has not been revealed, police say she died a
- 2:40Speaker 2: violent death. She had been stabbedultiple times and left in
- 2:45Speaker 2: the stream bed a quarter mile away from home. Her
- 2:49Speaker 2: flip flop was found a few yards away, tangled in
- 2:52Speaker 2: some branches. Who killed Hannah Tree Love? I'm Catherine Townsend.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Over the past seven years of making my true crime podcast,
- 3:02Speaker 2: Helen Gone, I've received hundreds of messages from people all
- 3:06Speaker 2: around the country asking for help with an unsolved murder
- 3:09Speaker 2: that's affected them, their families, and their communities. If you
- 3:14Speaker 2: have a case she'd like me and my team to
- 3:15Speaker 2: look into, you can reach out to us at our
- 3:18Speaker 2: Helen Gone Murder line at six seven eight seven four
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- 3:34Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone murder line. Hannah Truelove's autopsy reports
- 4:21Speaker 2: have never been made public, but information has come out
- 4:25Speaker 2: through the media over the years, and some of the
- 4:27Speaker 2: investigators on the case have commented publicly on her injuries.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Hannah was stabbed several times, but because it had rained
- 4:36Speaker 2: heavily the night before, a lot of crucial evidence had
- 4:39Speaker 2: been washed away. There was very little blood at the
- 4:42Speaker 2: crime scene. Even so, it seemed like a frenzied attack.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Police investigated Hannah's timeline. They were trying to figure out
- 4:51Speaker 2: her pattern of movement, what was going on in her life,
- 4:54Speaker 2: and who might have wanted to hurt her. Hannah Osborne
- 4:58Speaker 2: Truelove was born on May eighteenth, nineteen ninety six. Her parents,
- 5:02Speaker 2: Jeff and mona true Love, divorced when she was seven
- 5:05Speaker 2: years old, so she lived with her mother. Hannah had
- 5:09Speaker 2: two older siblings, a brother and a sister, both of
- 5:12Speaker 2: them already lived on their own. Her father, Jeff, lived
- 5:17Speaker 2: in Jackson County, Georgia, which was just a short drive away.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Hannah and her mother lived at the Lake Lanier Club apartments.
- 5:25Speaker 2: It's an upscale neighborhood and generally a safe area. It's
- 5:29Speaker 2: gated and you need an access code to get in,
- 5:32Speaker 2: though the area near the waterline is open to the public,
- 5:36Speaker 2: and since investigators haven't released the exact location where Hannah
- 5:40Speaker 2: was found, it's hard to say for sure if her
- 5:43Speaker 2: the killer would have needed an access code to get in,
- 5:47Speaker 2: or if they could have been invited in or possibly
- 5:49Speaker 2: broken in or snuck in. Interestingly, though Lake Lanier is
- 5:55Speaker 2: beautiful and the largest lake in Georgia, it's also one
- 5:58Speaker 2: of the deadliest lakes in the United States. About seven
- 6:02Speaker 2: hundred people have died there in total. There have been
- 6:06Speaker 2: a lot of news stories about the unexplained deaths in
- 6:08Speaker 2: the lakes, drownings, boating accidents, and foul play. Not only
- 6:13Speaker 2: is the lake dangerous, but rescues are challenging because divers
- 6:17Speaker 2: have very little visibility below the water surface, mainly because
- 6:21Speaker 2: of all the debris that's there, which includes construction materials,
- 6:24Speaker 2: sunken boats, and random trash. Some people even believe that
- 6:28Speaker 2: the lake is haunted, but deaths in the water aside.
- 6:32Speaker 2: The area around Lake Lanier is generally thought of as
- 6:35Speaker 2: very safe, so Hannah's family and friends were shocked by
- 6:40Speaker 2: the brutal attack. Hannah's family and friends say she loved
- 6:45Speaker 2: animals and had dreams of studying veterinary medicine and maybe
- 6:48Speaker 2: one day becoming a vet. She helped take care of
- 6:51Speaker 2: the family pets, a Yorkshire Terrier and two cats while
- 6:55Speaker 2: her mom, Mona.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Was at work.
- 6:57Speaker 2: At about six feet tall, Hannah was striking. She seemed
- 7:01Speaker 2: to take an interest in modeling. Some reports say she
- 7:04Speaker 2: actually did some modeling, others say that she was just
- 7:07Speaker 2: interested in getting into it, but either way, she was
- 7:10Speaker 2: very active in extracurricular activities, including gymnastics, singing, and music.
- 7:15Speaker 2: In general, Hannah was a happy and loving teenager, but
- 7:19Speaker 2: she had had some issues in the past with truancy.
- 7:22Speaker 2: The Division of Family and Children's Services visited her at
- 7:26Speaker 2: home for not showing up at school. Also, Hannah and
- 7:30Speaker 2: her mother had gotten into fights in the past. Police
- 7:33Speaker 2: had responded to the home at one point after one
- 7:35Speaker 2: of these arguments, which Hannah said happened because of Mona's drinking.
- 7:41Speaker 2: According to media reports, Mona had had multiple dwis in
- 7:45Speaker 2: the past, but on August twenty third, it didn't seem
- 7:49Speaker 2: as though there was any major drama at home other
- 7:52Speaker 2: than Hannah and her mother having a disagreement over whether
- 7:55Speaker 2: or not Hannah could have a cell phone. That day,
- 7:58Speaker 2: Hannah went to school. She also met with her DCFS
- 8:01Speaker 2: case manager. Hannah was behind at school and apparently taking
- 8:05Speaker 2: both sophomore classes and junior classes. As she tried to
- 8:08Speaker 2: catch up, she talked to her caseworker about improving her
- 8:12Speaker 2: math grade so that she could take eleventh grade math.
- 8:15Speaker 2: According to the caseworker, the meeting went well and Hannah
- 8:18Speaker 2: seemed to be in a good mood. After school, Hannah
- 8:21Speaker 2: went home. She didn't see her mom, but Mona assumed
- 8:25Speaker 2: that Hannah had been inside the apartment because Hannah's normal
- 8:28Speaker 2: routine was to drop her stuff off inside and then
- 8:32Speaker 2: to head outside to the grassy area by the picnic
- 8:34Speaker 2: tables to hang out with friends. Police also talked to
- 8:38Speaker 2: some neighbors at the Lake Lanier Club apartments who said
- 8:41Speaker 2: they saw Hannah hanging out near the complex at four
- 8:44Speaker 2: pm on Thursday. They have also stated that in the
- 8:47Speaker 2: late afternoon, she was sitting on some wooden steps that
- 8:51Speaker 2: led to the walking trails behind the apartment complex. She
- 8:55Speaker 2: was also seen at around seven thirty pm by neighbors
- 8:58Speaker 2: sitting at the apartment complex picnic tables. Mona worked long
- 9:03Speaker 2: hours from around seven am to seven pm, and when
- 9:06Speaker 2: she got back to the apartment that day, the mail
- 9:09Speaker 2: from the house and Hannah's belongings were inside, and Hannah
- 9:13Speaker 2: presumably was outside. But Hannah might have been outside for
- 9:17Speaker 2: another reason besides her routine. She may have been avoiding
- 9:20Speaker 2: her mother. Hannah's father, Jeff, was on Nancy Grace in
- 9:24Speaker 2: September twenty twelve along with one of the detectives working
- 9:28Speaker 2: the case, and he shed some light on the timeline.
- 9:31Speaker 2: On August twenty third, he told Nancy Grace that Mona
- 9:35Speaker 2: called him at around nine pm saying that Hannah hadn't
- 9:39Speaker 2: come home. Jeff said that she asked him if Hannah
- 9:42Speaker 2: was with him, and when he said no, Mona said
- 9:45Speaker 2: that she hadn't come home and that was starting to
- 9:47Speaker 2: get dark. Both Mona and Jeff were immediately concerned. Jeff
- 9:52Speaker 2: said that after Mona called him to say that Hannah
- 9:54Speaker 2: was missing, he kept calling back every few minutes, but
- 9:59Speaker 2: Hannah never showed up back home, so Jeff said that
- 10:03Speaker 2: Mona called him back at around ten fifteen PM and
- 10:06Speaker 2: let him know that she had called the police to
- 10:09Speaker 2: report Hannah missing. At that point, Jeff said, quote, she
- 10:13Speaker 2: said that she'd called the law and that she's sure
- 10:15Speaker 2: she is run away. And I said, well, why would
- 10:18Speaker 2: she run away? She goes she's upset with me, and
- 10:22Speaker 2: I said, well, okay, you know, but.
- 10:24Speaker 3: She wouldn't run away. End quote.
- 10:27Speaker 2: This made me wonder about the family dynamic. It sounds
- 10:31Speaker 2: like Jeff and Mona didn't agree on everything, but that
- 10:34Speaker 2: they were trying their best to co parent, which of
- 10:36Speaker 2: course is not uncommon in parenting teens after divorces. Jeff
- 10:41Speaker 2: said that Hannah and her mother had been arguing because
- 10:44Speaker 2: her mother would not allow Hannah to have a cell phone,
- 10:47Speaker 2: and Jeff said he didn't necessarily agree with that decision.
- 10:51Speaker 3: He said that he was going to get his daughter
- 10:53Speaker 3: a phone.
- 10:54Speaker 2: According to a verified friend of the family who posted
- 10:58Speaker 2: on websleus, without a phone, Hannah was only able to
- 11:01Speaker 2: communicate with her father if he called her mother or
- 11:04Speaker 2: if he came by the apartment and parked in a
- 11:06Speaker 2: space that she could see from the apartment. Despite these difficulties,
- 11:11Speaker 2: Hannah and her father were in touch a lot. That
- 11:14Speaker 2: friend on websleus so that Jeff had spent a lot
- 11:17Speaker 2: of time with Hannah that summer and that they had
- 11:19Speaker 2: standing dinner dates.
- 11:23Speaker 3: The Gainesville Police.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Department initially responded to Mona's missing persons call, but when
- 11:28Speaker 2: Hannah's body was found the next day on Friday evening
- 11:31Speaker 2: across the county line, Hall County Police took.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Over the investigation.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Sergeant Stephen Wilbanks from the Hall County Sheriff's Office told
- 11:41Speaker 2: Nancy Grace that police believed Hannah's body had not been
- 11:45Speaker 2: taken elsewhere and then dumped. They believed that Hannah was
- 11:50Speaker 2: killed at the location where her body was found. He
- 11:54Speaker 2: also said on the program that he believed that whoever
- 11:56Speaker 2: killed Hannah was familiar with that area and familiar with
- 12:00Speaker 2: the walking paths running back by the lake, the ones
- 12:03Speaker 2: that ran past the apartment complex where Hannah lived. Several
- 12:08Speaker 2: residents posted online complaining about a lack of safety at
- 12:11Speaker 2: the Lake Linear Club apartments. This complex had a reputation
- 12:15Speaker 2: as being safe, but these commenters said that sometimes gates
- 12:20Speaker 2: were left broken for long periods of time, so anyone
- 12:23Speaker 2: could get into the apartments without a code. They also
- 12:26Speaker 2: talked about how a lot of people had had their
- 12:29Speaker 2: apartments broken into and had things stolen even during the day.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Because Hannah didn't have a phone, there were no cell
- 12:38Speaker 2: phone records to go through. There was also rumor by
- 12:41Speaker 2: the way that police investigated that Hannah could possibly have
- 12:44Speaker 2: had a secret cell phone, but according to media reports,
- 12:47Speaker 2: this was never proven. But law enforcement did go through
- 12:51Speaker 2: Hannah's social media. She was very active on Twitter, and
- 12:54Speaker 2: she also used her Nintendo DS to communicate with friends,
- 12:58Speaker 2: so they confiscated the gaming system, but according to media reports,
- 13:03Speaker 2: they didn't find anything useful on Hanna's Nintendo DS. But
- 13:08Speaker 2: Hannah did have several cryptic tweets, some seem to reference
- 13:13Speaker 2: a breakup. She posted lyrics from the U two song,
- 13:16Speaker 2: one which read quote did I ask too much more
- 13:19Speaker 2: than a lot?
- 13:20Speaker 3: You gave me nothing? Now it's all of God end quote.
- 13:24Speaker 2: So she seemed to be posting quotes about love and loss,
- 13:28Speaker 2: and then shortly before her murder, Hannah also had other
- 13:32Speaker 2: more disturbing tweets, including one that mentioned a stalker. Hannah
- 13:46Speaker 2: Truelove's case is still technically an open case, so our
- 13:49Speaker 2: four yer request has not come through, and even thirteen
- 13:53Speaker 2: years later, there is a lot of speculation online about
- 13:57Speaker 2: what happened to Hannah. Since there are a lot of
- 14:00Speaker 2: rumors floating around about this case, I do think it's
- 14:03Speaker 2: important to rule out possibilities when we can. Some people
- 14:08Speaker 2: have asked about the man who found Hannah's body, especially
- 14:11Speaker 2: because in his nine one one call he mentioned that
- 14:15Speaker 2: he found the body of a young woman who looked
- 14:18Speaker 2: like she had been dead for two or three days.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Now. His name has.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Never been publicly released, but it was revealed on the
- 14:25Speaker 2: Nancy Gray Show. The man who found Hannah's body was
- 14:28Speaker 2: visiting his daughter and his grandchildren.
- 14:31Speaker 3: He was interviewed by police.
- 14:32Speaker 2: He was very cooperative and he was ruled out as
- 14:35Speaker 2: a suspect, and police have said several times they think
- 14:40Speaker 2: that Hannah's murderer was someone she knew. Her father, Jeff,
- 14:44Speaker 2: was the one who identified her body. He told Nancy
- 14:47Speaker 2: Gray's quote, it looks like she got the crap beat
- 14:50Speaker 2: out of her, possibly by another girl, because she had
- 14:53Speaker 2: a lot of scratches on.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Her face end quote.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Hannah's parents said that to their knowledge, she had not
- 14:59Speaker 2: had a serious boyfriend, but we do have to consider
- 15:02Speaker 2: the possibility that she did have love interest. That her
- 15:05Speaker 2: parents or even some of her friends may not have
- 15:08Speaker 2: known about. There are a lot of posts on social media,
- 15:12Speaker 2: especially comments on old Facebook posts about the case, alluding
- 15:16Speaker 2: to a love triangle with a friend of Hannah's and
- 15:18Speaker 2: a local high school guy who was dating Hannah's female friend.
- 15:23Speaker 2: This person, according to multiple comments, was the son of
- 15:26Speaker 2: someone who worked in law enforcement. He's been identified on
- 15:29Speaker 2: social media, but I have no idea if the love
- 15:32Speaker 2: triangle rumors are true or not, so I'm not naming
- 15:35Speaker 2: him here. There are other tweets from Hannah that reference
- 15:39Speaker 2: possible fighting with her mom, including one from May that
- 15:42Speaker 2: talked about Hannah making her mother's nose. But again, there
- 15:46Speaker 2: was no evidence that Hannah and her mother were having
- 15:49Speaker 2: any kind of a serious conflict on August twenty third,
- 15:52Speaker 2: or that they interacted much at all, because by the
- 15:55Speaker 2: time her mom got home, Hannah was already outside. But
- 15:59Speaker 2: the family drama was a prevalent topic on social media
- 16:03Speaker 2: and on comments below.
- 16:05Speaker 3: A lot of articles about the murder.
- 16:08Speaker 2: After an initial flurry of articles, by the way, Hannah's
- 16:11Speaker 2: case pretty much disappeared from the headlines. A lot of
- 16:16Speaker 2: commenters seemed to feel that that could be because of
- 16:19Speaker 2: what Hannah was going through at home. They and I
- 16:22Speaker 2: wonder if Hannah didn't get as much coverage as some
- 16:25Speaker 2: other cases due to the DCFS investigation. Maybe she wasn't
- 16:29Speaker 2: seen as the perfect victim. Still, even in twenty twenty five,
- 16:35Speaker 2: way too often we see that coverage of missing teen
- 16:38Speaker 2: cases where the victims are described as straight A students
- 16:41Speaker 2: or beauty queens get preferential treatment. It's not right, but
- 16:46Speaker 2: it still happens. In the weeks and months that followed
- 16:50Speaker 2: Hannah's murder, a lot of theories were getting posted on
- 16:53Speaker 2: social media, including on Facebook, and a lot of people
- 16:57Speaker 2: claiming to be in hand to social circle were weighing in.
- 17:01Speaker 2: But in the actual police investigation, Sergeant Wilbanks of the
- 17:06Speaker 2: Hall County Sheriff's Office said on Nancy Grace that police
- 17:10Speaker 2: had run into some problems because some of the people
- 17:13Speaker 2: in Hannah's community were not cooperating with law enforcement. Commoners
- 17:18Speaker 2: online wondered were the people in her social circle afraid
- 17:23Speaker 2: or was there some other reason why they weren't cooperating.
- 17:26Speaker 2: There is a lot that we don't know about Hannah's
- 17:29Speaker 2: last movements, like which friends she was seen with.
- 17:33Speaker 3: We know that Hannah was talking.
- 17:34Speaker 2: To people at the picnic tables, but we don't know
- 17:37Speaker 2: who those people were.
- 17:39Speaker 3: They haven't been named publicly.
- 17:41Speaker 2: We do know that some of her friends apparently told
- 17:44Speaker 2: police they last saw her at seven thirty before they
- 17:48Speaker 2: left the apartment complex to go home, and at around
- 17:51Speaker 2: the same time, some neighbors at the complex told police.
- 17:54Speaker 3: They saw her at the picnic tables.
- 17:56Speaker 2: So seven point thirty seems to be the last time
- 17:59Speaker 2: when Hannah was seen alive. But there's another theory that
- 18:04Speaker 2: Hannah had a stalker. Looking back through Hannah's tweets, she
- 18:09Speaker 2: talked about being afraid. On August twelfth, she tweeted, quote,
- 18:13Speaker 2: I have a scary ass stalker end quote. We don't
- 18:18Speaker 2: know the full history of those tweets, so it's very
- 18:20Speaker 2: hard to judge with no context. Could she have been
- 18:23Speaker 2: talking about her mom maybe being sarcastic, or was there.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Someone she was actually afraid of.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Hannah's father, Jeff, also made some comments on a news
- 18:33Speaker 2: program about Hannah not wanting to ride the school bus
- 18:37Speaker 2: and possibly being afraid to ride the school bus. The
- 18:41Speaker 2: school bus comments could have been because Hannah was a
- 18:43Speaker 2: afraid of encountering someone, but then again, her dad was
- 18:47Speaker 2: teaching her to drive, and like a lot of teens,
- 18:51Speaker 2: Hannah was focused on getting a license and getting your
- 18:53Speaker 2: own car, so that could have been while she was
- 18:56Speaker 2: making comments about not wanting to ride the bus. There
- 18:59Speaker 2: was another tweet that caught my eye. On August twenty third,
- 19:02Speaker 2: she tweeted, quote, I've got to get out of these.
- 19:05Speaker 3: Dang apartments end quote.
- 19:07Speaker 2: She was tweeting that she wanted to move out of
- 19:09Speaker 2: the apartments where she and her mom were living.
- 19:12Speaker 3: The police chalk the.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Stalker tweets up to teenage drama rather than any specific threat.
- 19:18Speaker 2: The original detective assigned to the case, Lieutenant Franklin, told
- 19:22Speaker 2: The Gainesville Times quote, with the help of family and
- 19:25Speaker 2: friends and numerous interviews, we were able to build the
- 19:28Speaker 2: context of those tweets and to vet them out, and
- 19:31Speaker 2: basically they were just her venting, and there was nothing
- 19:35Speaker 2: that was a legitimate threat that came from those end quote.
- 19:38Speaker 2: Lieutenant Franklin said the tweet was referencing a guy at
- 19:42Speaker 2: Hannah's school who liked himana, but apparently Hannah didn't like
- 19:46Speaker 2: him back. Lieutenant Franklin said the boy had shown up
- 19:50Speaker 2: at her house with flowers. He was interviewed and eliminated
- 19:53Speaker 2: as a possible suspect. Lieutenant Franklin reiterated that police believed
- 19:58Speaker 2: Hannah's killer was not a random stalker, that she knew
- 20:01Speaker 2: her killer, and Lieutenant Franklin also said something else publicly
- 20:05Speaker 2: for the first time, that he believed Hannah may have
- 20:08Speaker 2: been killed by more than one person, or that at
- 20:12Speaker 2: least more than one person may have been present while
- 20:16Speaker 2: she was attacked. He talked about how he hoped that
- 20:19Speaker 2: detectives would be able to talk to those people, saying, quote,
- 20:23Speaker 2: who we try to reach are not necessarily the person
- 20:26Speaker 2: that had the knife in their hand, but anybody that
- 20:28Speaker 2: was present and maybe would be less culpable and didn't
- 20:31Speaker 2: have as much responsibility, but was just there, maybe in
- 20:35Speaker 2: a situation they didn't want to be in.
- 20:37Speaker 3: End quote, but investigators.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Do have one lead that they've been chasing for years.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Police did a lot of interviews, but at first had
- 20:55Speaker 2: no clear suspects. The investigation was also complicated because the
- 21:00Speaker 2: knight Hannah disappeared, it rained heavily two to three inches,
- 21:04Speaker 2: and this rain washed away a lot of physical evidence.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Ten years after Hannah's murder, Lieutenant Franklin talked to a
- 21:11Speaker 2: local news channel eleven Alive News and took the reporter
- 21:15Speaker 2: to the ravine where Hannah's body was found. Lieutenant Franklin
- 21:19Speaker 2: told the reporter he believed that the spot where Hannah
- 21:22Speaker 2: was killed could be an important clue because it was
- 21:25Speaker 2: kind of a perfectly chosen spot. He believed that if
- 21:29Speaker 2: Hannah was killed elsewhere, someone would have heard or seen something,
- 21:33Speaker 2: but that spot was just remote enough, probably further pointing
- 21:37Speaker 2: to the theory that Hannah's killer or killers knew the area.
- 21:41Speaker 2: It would also presumably have been difficult to drag Hannah
- 21:44Speaker 2: to that location kicking and screaming again. Police believe Hannah
- 21:49Speaker 2: knew her killer and went down to the area willingly,
- 21:53Speaker 2: knowing that she was seen at the picnic tables, and
- 21:56Speaker 2: the witnesses reported seeing her sitting on a wooden staircase
- 21:59Speaker 2: that leads down to the trailhead. Was Hannah waiting on someone,
- 22:03Speaker 2: did someone lure her into those woods, or is it
- 22:06Speaker 2: possible that she walked down the path with someone and
- 22:09Speaker 2: they left and someone else was watching her. Police have
- 22:13Speaker 2: stated publicly they believed that because Hannah was seen sitting
- 22:16Speaker 2: on the wooden steps, that she encountered someone, maybe more
- 22:20Speaker 2: than one person, and that she went willingly with that
- 22:23Speaker 2: person or person's to the stream bed. After the rains,
- 22:27Speaker 2: the waters started flowing fast, and Hannah's body was left
- 22:31Speaker 2: in that fast moving water for an hour or more
- 22:34Speaker 2: during the storm, so we know that a lot of
- 22:37Speaker 2: the physical.
- 22:37Speaker 3: Evidence was lost.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Police have not released whether or not Hannah had clothes,
- 22:42Speaker 2: on whether or not they looked for them or found
- 22:45Speaker 2: evidence of sexual assault. Police have said they are withholding
- 22:49Speaker 2: evidence because they want to protect the integrity of the investigation,
- 22:53Speaker 2: but they have shared a lead, one that they've been
- 22:55Speaker 2: trying to figure out for years. Police are looking for
- 22:59Speaker 2: a distinctive vehicle that was seen in the apartment complex.
- 23:03Speaker 2: It's been described as the nineteen nineties to two thousand
- 23:06Speaker 2: silver four door Chevier Dodge with significant front end damage
- 23:11Speaker 2: and a lighter colored driver's side door. They are hoping
- 23:15Speaker 2: that someone saw that car, and Lieutenant Franklin has said
- 23:19Speaker 2: he strongly believes Hannah was in the presence of more
- 23:22Speaker 2: than one person at the time of her death, which
- 23:24Speaker 2: makes me wonder if Hannah's father, Jeff, could be right
- 23:27Speaker 2: about her facial wounds being inflicted by a female, if
- 23:30Speaker 2: there was a female involved somehow, and if this could
- 23:33Speaker 2: have been some kind of love triangle gone wrong. In
- 23:37Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Lieutenant Franklin said at a press conference, quote,
- 23:41Speaker 2: we've had several persons of interest that we've taught to
- 23:44Speaker 2: that remain persons of interest.
- 23:46Speaker 3: What we're looking.
- 23:46Speaker 2: For is someone on the fringe, someone with knowledge that
- 23:50Speaker 2: has a piece of information that'll open the door to
- 23:52Speaker 2: these people that we've already looked at but aren't ready
- 23:55Speaker 2: to discount yet.
- 23:56Speaker 3: End quote.
- 23:57Speaker 2: He added, quote, We're confident we know who is responsible
- 24:01Speaker 2: for her death. We've had a suspect since the beginning.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Our issue is that we have a lack of evidence
- 24:07Speaker 2: to tie that person to the crime. It's not to
- 24:09Speaker 2: say we have zero evidence, but we just didn't have
- 24:12Speaker 2: enough end quote. Police have not released the name of
- 24:16Speaker 2: this potential person of interest. Lieutenant Franklin has dropped a
- 24:20Speaker 2: few clues, saying that the suspect is.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Mail and that he knew Hannah.
- 24:24Speaker 2: He said police have talked to this person multiple times
- 24:27Speaker 2: and that this person has denied any involvement in Hannah's murder.
- 24:35Speaker 2: Hannah's mother, Mona, died in August of twenty twenty two,
- 24:39Speaker 2: just before the tenth anniversary of Hannah's murder. She died
- 24:44Speaker 2: without ever knowing who killed her daughter, and Lieutenant Franklin
- 24:48Speaker 2: said that even though he got a promotion and wasn't
- 24:51Speaker 2: officially on Hannah's case anymore, he asked to stay and
- 24:55Speaker 2: keep investigating. He said that he had a teenage daughter
- 24:58Speaker 2: of his own and felt a personal connection to this
- 25:00Speaker 2: case to this day. Lieutenant Franklin said he keeps Hannah's
- 25:05Speaker 2: Nintendo DS on his desk as a reminder to never
- 25:09Speaker 2: give up on searching for answers and justice in Hannah's case.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Lieutenant Franklin said he hopes that someone who knows something
- 25:17Speaker 2: will come forward, may be someone who knew the suspect
- 25:21Speaker 2: or Hannah's friend group, or who may have seen the
- 25:24Speaker 2: car and can help police establish some sort of connection.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Again.
- 25:30Speaker 2: The car was spotted around the Lake Lanier Club apartment
- 25:33Speaker 2: complex on Thursday, August twenty third, around the time when
- 25:36Speaker 2: Hannah true Love went missing. Police believed the occupants of
- 25:41Speaker 2: that car may have important information other than the car.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Lieutenant Franklin has said he hopes that advances in DNA
- 25:48Speaker 2: technology could one day provide the break that police need
- 25:52Speaker 2: to crack this case. This case actually reminds me of
- 25:56Speaker 2: another recent case we covered the Caroline Glacken case in Scotland.
- 26:00Speaker 2: That case was solved decades later and they had zero
- 26:03Speaker 2: physical evidence. In that case, Caroline was part of a
- 26:07Speaker 2: love triangle. Her killers attacked her in the woods near
- 26:10Speaker 2: a body of water. Police were able to catch the
- 26:13Speaker 2: killers by going back to the original scene of the
- 26:16Speaker 2: crime in interviewing every single person in the apartment complex
- 26:20Speaker 2: where their suspect had been spotted, and all of Caroline's
- 26:23Speaker 2: neighbors and friends as well. There could be a similar
- 26:27Speaker 2: situation here. There may have been people who were afraid
- 26:31Speaker 2: to speak out at the time, who were friends with
- 26:33Speaker 2: Hannah's friend group, who may have children of their own
- 26:36Speaker 2: now and may feel differently about coming forward. Before she died,
- 26:45Speaker 2: Mona wrote a public plea. She wrote quote, I would
- 26:49Speaker 2: like to send a message to anyone who may have
- 26:51Speaker 2: information about Hannah's death to please come forward and help
- 26:54Speaker 2: me in this nightmare. I am haunted by Hannah's death,
- 26:58Speaker 2: as any mother can understand. Please help my family by
- 27:02Speaker 2: coming forward with your information, even if that information is
- 27:06Speaker 2: about your son or daughter. I feel sure you know
- 27:09Speaker 2: they can't come to grips with Hannah's death until they
- 27:12Speaker 2: are truthful about what happened to Hannah. We can't go
- 27:16Speaker 2: back and save Hannah, but we can honor her memory
- 27:18Speaker 2: and bring closure to her tragic death. I pray to
- 27:22Speaker 2: Almighty God you are willing to do for Hannah, even
- 27:25Speaker 2: though you may not have known her. I know in
- 27:28Speaker 2: my heart Hannah would have done the same for you.
- 27:32Speaker 2: End quote. I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Helen Gone Murder Line is a production of School You
- 27:44Speaker 2: and iHeart Podcast. It's written and narrated by me Catherine
- 27:47Speaker 2: Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts. Special thanks to Amy
- 27:51Speaker 2: Tubbs for her research assistance and James Wheaton for legal review.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Noah camer mixed and scored this episode. Our theme song
- 27:58Speaker 2: is by Ben Salek. Executive producers are Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr,
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