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Chuck & Buck 12-8 Hour 4: MMQB with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: dot com. Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike Holmgrin
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Speaker 1: and Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 2: Hi Yes nine o'clock hour.
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Speaker 3: Mike Holmbren joins us here as we talk about yesterday's
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Speaker 3: thirty seven to nine win over the Atlanta Falcons. For
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks, they improved a ten and three on the year.
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Speaker 3: Score was tied coach at halftime six. That's six, boy ow,
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Speaker 3: things can change in the National Football League. I think
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Speaker 3: we saw two games yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because the first half, you it'd be
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Speaker 4: hard to believe that would be the score, you know,
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Speaker 4: but it was, and that can happen in the league.
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Speaker 4: But then they they really had an impressive second half.
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Speaker 4: And this team, and we've said it before, this team
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Speaker 4: is really good. They're good and so when you see
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Speaker 4: a first half like that, you go, oh, gee, what's there?
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Speaker 4: Is an away game, maybe they didn't sleep right, whatever,
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Speaker 4: But then they came out in the second half, we
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Speaker 4: saw the team that they are. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Actually, I wanted to talk about that because what's what
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Speaker 3: Bucky and I and Ashley talked about to start the
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Speaker 3: show was, boy, if that wasn't an illustration of a
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Speaker 3: team that the season's going well, where you do have
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Speaker 3: a few hiccups, but you figure out ways to overcome it,
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Speaker 3: figure it out in the four quarters, and then you know,
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Speaker 3: and then pull away. Where Atlanta is a bad team
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Speaker 3: and a bad way, probably with a coach who's on
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Speaker 3: his way out.
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Speaker 2: And man, every single good play they made got negated by.
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Speaker 3: A penalty or stepping out of bounds or something. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it just to me was an illustration of a good
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Speaker 3: team having a good season in a good way a
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Speaker 3: bad team having a bad season that's.
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Speaker 4: In a bad ways. That says it perfectly in my
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Speaker 4: opinion too. You know, Atlanta they have they've lost some
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Speaker 4: close games. Now, they've lost overtime games, They've lost some stuff,
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Speaker 4: but they haven't been able to get over the hump
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Speaker 4: that way. And then Pennis got hurt. So but yeah,
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Speaker 4: and the Seahawks have they are really put together well,
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Speaker 4: and I think the halftime adjustments that took place really
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Speaker 4: shows the difference kind of between the two teams. One
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Speaker 4: of the things, because I think Mike does a tremendous
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Speaker 4: job that way. Kubiak you know, is involved in that
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Speaker 4: as well. And the players, you know, they respond well,
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Speaker 4: they're having a great season. And you know, you look
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Speaker 4: if you project ahead or down the road. You know,
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Speaker 4: Indianapolis now you know they lost Jones, you know, I
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Speaker 4: mean it's they're gonna have finished with a very very
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Speaker 4: powerful record and it'll come down to a couple of
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Speaker 4: games the forty nine ers in the rams.
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Speaker 2: Mike, you mentioned the adjustments. What did you see that
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Speaker 2: that impressed you?
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Speaker 4: The first thing he and and again, this is something
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Speaker 4: we've talked about before, and I was a proponent of
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Speaker 4: figuring out ways to get in Jagma the ball. However,
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Speaker 4: in the first half, I thought that seemed to be
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Speaker 4: a point of emphasis, but it wasn't working the second half.
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Speaker 4: I think the adjustment. One of the adjustments they made.
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Speaker 4: They decided, okay, let's let's get the other people involved.
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Speaker 4: Let's let's and then that that in turn opened up
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Speaker 4: some things for Jigma in the second half. So that
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Speaker 4: was one thing. And then Shaheed to me that kickoff
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Speaker 4: return set the tone for the second half. And I'm
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Speaker 4: watching a poor uh special teams coach for Atlanta. I
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Speaker 4: think that was the guy on the sideline. He was
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Speaker 4: having a tough day. He was having a tough day,
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Speaker 4: and then the then the kicker kicks the ball out
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Speaker 4: of bounds. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff and
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Speaker 4: I'm going, oh, you know the yeah, the block field
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Speaker 4: field goal and they show him over there and he said, oh,
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be I thought maybe today he might be
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Speaker 4: handed as bus ticket. You know.
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Speaker 5: So, coach, how often is it like you come in
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Speaker 5: as an offensive minded guy and you're you're setting up
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Speaker 5: you know you're scripted plays and then basically how you
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Speaker 5: think you're going to attack your opponent, like what defense
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Speaker 5: you've seen on film. And so if all of a
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Speaker 5: sudden they're doing stuff that is to counteract that they
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Speaker 5: were maybe seeing one move ahead, like they're going to
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Speaker 5: try to do this, They're going to try do this,
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Speaker 5: They're going to go to JSN and force it in there.
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Speaker 5: If they have to, we'll double team him or bracket
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Speaker 5: him or do the cover six like he was talking
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Speaker 5: about earlier, Like how hard is it in the middle
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Speaker 5: of the first half to switch gears if all of
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Speaker 5: a sudden you realize they knew what game plan I
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Speaker 5: was coming with, or do you just have to kind
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Speaker 5: of try to stick with that game plan, hope it works,
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Speaker 5: and then make larger adjustments at halftime.
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Speaker 4: You know what I think most people don't. I don't
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Speaker 4: think you should wait until halftime. If you see something
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Speaker 4: that's that repetitive in the first half, there's time, you know,
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Speaker 4: if you have the ball, you know, and I made
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Speaker 4: mistakes that way At times. I'd get mad during a game.
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Speaker 4: I know that surprises you, but I get that, And
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Speaker 4: then I'd say, you maybe seeing the thing on TV.
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Speaker 4: I'd say, we're not running the ball anymore, no more,
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Speaker 4: and everyone, all the other coaches on the go, Well, coach,
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Speaker 4: everyone shut up. We're not running the ball anymore. We're
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Speaker 4: gonna pass the ball every snap we can't run, and
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Speaker 4: then we'd make the adjustment, you know, and hopefully it worked.
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Speaker 4: I remember Hugh telling me this story, though, Hugh, I'll
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Speaker 4: let you tell the story. Okay, we played Jerry Glanville
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Speaker 4: in Atlanta. Yeah, you know, when I was with the
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers talking about adjustments.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell the story. Yeah, so it's in Atlanta. If
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Speaker 2: I get a detail wrong, Mike correct me, please. But
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Speaker 2: Joe Montana is the quarterback, Jerry Rice is is the
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Speaker 2: you know, in the prime of his career. I mean,
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Speaker 2: then forty nine ers are perring. They got Mike holmgrin,
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Speaker 2: I mean, just you know, playing things like a marionette puppet.
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Speaker 2: And we had I say, we I'm on the Falcons.
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Speaker 2: We had a cornerback by the name of Charles Dimri
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Speaker 2: and Jerry Glanville was the head coach of the Falcons
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Speaker 2: and he had this this this he was just everything
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Speaker 2: to him was just macho football. It was all macho football.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be smart football as long as it's
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Speaker 2: tough and macho. So he was gonna buy Golly, he's
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Speaker 2: gonna blitz, and he's gonna play man. He's gonna blitz.
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Speaker 2: And he had Charles Dimrie was the game plan to
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Speaker 2: cover Jerry Rice and Uh, Montana had five touchdowns. Was
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Speaker 2: were four to Rice? For I know, I think he
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Speaker 2: I think Montana had six. Five of them were I
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Speaker 2: think got one. Yeah, okay, so he had five touchdowns
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Speaker 2: to Rice. And and he just kept doing the same
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Speaker 2: thing and dim and and I was so close to
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Speaker 2: just walking down and just saying, Jerry, dim can't cover Rice.
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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I thought you did that, didn't you.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I didn't. I know. Uh, well,
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Speaker 2: it makes for a better story. Let's just say it
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Speaker 2: like that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I went I went down and told the head coach
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Speaker 2: me as the backup quarterback. I said, hey, coach, you're
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Speaker 2: screwing this thing up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me tell me you're you're You're not for
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Speaker 4: real with this, Jerry. I got good news and bad news.
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Speaker 4: The good news is Jerry that Elvis is not yet
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Speaker 4: here to grab his ticket.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The bad news is dim recan't covered Rice. I
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Speaker 2: got to work on my embellishment game, as Mike points out,
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Speaker 2: So yes, you know, I just well cracked an egg
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Speaker 2: on on.
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Speaker 4: But to Bucky's question, I think, yeah, yeah, if you
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Speaker 4: wait until halftime and you know what's happening after the
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Speaker 4: first quarter or the first quarter and a half, you're
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Speaker 4: waiting too long.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know what. You can make.
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Speaker 4: Adjustments at halftime because you have the team there, you
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Speaker 4: can make adjustments. But if you wait that long, I
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Speaker 4: think you're wasting time.
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Speaker 3: Well let me ask you both, because I mean, yes,
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Speaker 3: they spread the started spreading the ball around a little
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Speaker 3: bit more and it seemed to unlock something. And yet JSN,
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Speaker 3: your number one receiver, still made the two big plays
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Speaker 3: on the drive that sort of got the offense in rhythm.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they had started to get into rhythm in the
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Speaker 2: in the.
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Speaker 3: Late first half, but they really started to click in
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Speaker 3: the second half. Just chunk play after chunk play after
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Speaker 3: chunk play. So I mean, between coach and quarterback here
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Speaker 3: Holmgrin and Millen, what is the secret sweet spot for
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Speaker 3: that too? Yeah, we want to target JSN as much
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Speaker 3: as possible because he's our best playmaker. But if we
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Speaker 3: lock in on him too much. We're hurting JSN. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 4: You have the plays for JSN obviously, like I had
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Speaker 4: the place for Jerry Rice or Sterling Sharp or whatever.
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Speaker 4: And then you yeah, you go there, but you go
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Speaker 4: there when you think that play not necessarily the play,
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Speaker 4: that play will work against what they're doing. Then the
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Speaker 4: quarter it's up to the quarterback to make the decision.
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Speaker 4: And most of the time, if you if the play
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Speaker 4: is a good play for against that defense, then JSN
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Speaker 4: or whoever whomever, your number one guy is going to
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Speaker 4: see the ball more often. If you all of a
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Speaker 4: sudden focus and tell the quarterback we're calling this play.
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Speaker 4: That's who I want you to throw the ball to.
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Speaker 4: I think you make I think you make a little
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Speaker 4: mistake there. I really do you know you're calling a
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Speaker 4: play that has three or four options. They're going to
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Speaker 4: do different things on defense. You're teaching the quarterback to
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Speaker 4: make good decisions, and the guy will get his he'll
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Speaker 4: get his touches, he'll get his catches.
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Speaker 2: In the third quarter, Chuck, you had the thirty yard
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Speaker 2: er by Jasn and then the twenty eight yard touchdown
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Speaker 2: on the first offensive drive. So so you know, there's
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Speaker 2: fifty eight yards of JSN receptions and and so what
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Speaker 2: happened on both of those plays it was man to
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Speaker 2: man what's called cover one with a safety in the
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Speaker 2: middle of the field, and they were pressing the receivers.
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Speaker 2: So Jason was taking an inside release, which means when
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Speaker 2: he takes an inside release, then inbreaking routes are more
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Speaker 2: likely to win. So the first one that he runs
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Speaker 2: a deep what Mike would call a deep angle cross,
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Speaker 2: and again he got inside leverage on the corner, so
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Speaker 2: that's gonna be a win for him. And then the
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Speaker 2: touchdown was some people call it a dig, some people
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Speaker 2: call it a dagger, but it's an intermediate inbreaking route.
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Speaker 2: And again with the corner to the outside, then he's
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Speaker 2: running away from him. And so both of those are
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Speaker 2: inbreaking routes. Now, had they been zone coverage and they
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Speaker 2: rolled over the top, then Darnold's got an answer elsewhere.
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Speaker 2: But because it was man to man and no real
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Speaker 2: bride in that regard, then now it's green light to
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Speaker 2: number eleven.
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Speaker 4: You know what he impresses me a number of things.
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Speaker 4: But then one thing in the game on that one
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Speaker 4: in breaking route, he was referencing he goes up, he
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Speaker 4: gets to the inside of the defender, and then his
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Speaker 4: his movement his first few steps away from the defender, Gimi,
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Speaker 4: he created a five yard There is no way that
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Speaker 4: that guy could cover him that way.
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Speaker 2: You know, Well Cup did that on his touchdown.
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Speaker 3: That Cup touchdown, he look like how many Cup Rams
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Speaker 3: touchdowns we've seen in the past, where he just sort
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Speaker 3: of comes it looks like he's going to block. Then
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden just kind of does a pivot
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Speaker 3: to the outside and he's wide open out there. Well,
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Speaker 3: it's a man beater.
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Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting is he fit Mike in
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Speaker 2: the B gap between the guard and the tackle. He
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Speaker 2: and so he kind of goes up and then because
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Speaker 2: he had a reduced split to the receiver on that side.
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Speaker 2: So so Cup's gonna basically you're telling Cup go in
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Speaker 2: in the gap between Anthony Bradford and and Abe Lucas
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Speaker 2: and then just break to the flat. But what the
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Speaker 2: key is is the receiver out there He's gonna might
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Speaker 2: have been Cody White, I'm not quite might have been
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Speaker 2: I gotta go back and look at uh, but he
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Speaker 2: he inside releases and that creates a pick on the
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Speaker 2: on the guys in man man and and so that
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Speaker 2: insert in the B gap kind of helped the spacing
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Speaker 2: and helped create the pick. So that's just beautiful scheming
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Speaker 2: that that that is target, right, Mike. I mean you're
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Speaker 2: the red zone master. That's just a you know, anticipating
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Speaker 2: the coverage and designing to play and executing and play
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Speaker 2: when you get the coverage.
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Speaker 4: It's really something and you just pray that Bradford and
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Speaker 4: what's the right tackle that they don't accidentally fall on
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Speaker 4: Cup or because they have to peel him off the field.
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Speaker 4: Does Bradford look like he's a little bigger? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 4: yeah made that comment. They are big guys now, so
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Speaker 4: but it was beautiful. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, had it been a stunt, Mike, you know, if
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Speaker 2: Cup was trying, if he if he ran right into
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Speaker 2: the teeth of a te that's tackle ender e t
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Speaker 2: and tackle stunt, there would have been a criss cross
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Speaker 2: and he might have been hanged around by the big guys.
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Speaker 2: But you know what they they they either caught a
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Speaker 2: break or they knew a tendency. They weren't going to
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Speaker 2: get a stunt. But that B gap was just wide open.
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Speaker 2: It was exactly how they practiced it on Friday, right
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Speaker 2: Mike red Zone Day, and they that's how that's how
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Speaker 2: the scout team they gave him the look. That's the
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Speaker 2: look they wanted, and that's the look they got on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: And they had the right guy doing it, because I
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Speaker 4: think Cup is really he's a great player and very
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Speaker 4: smart and knows how to do that stuff.
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Speaker 5: How'd you like just overall the run game, I mean,
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Speaker 5: they didn't Ken Walker didn't really get off. Charboney had
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Speaker 5: that one big run. They had the youngster that Jones
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Speaker 5: kid came in. He looked crazy fast. But then again,
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Speaker 5: at that point, everything was working for the for the
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Speaker 5: Seahawks offensively.
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Speaker 4: Well, it seemed to me that they were pulling away
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Speaker 4: from the run first and we'll set up the pass
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Speaker 4: and all that. They went kind of the other way.
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Speaker 4: But you know, if you're going to give Atlanta any
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Speaker 4: credit at all, I thought they did a decent job,
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Speaker 4: particularly in the first half of kind of doing doing
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Speaker 4: a good job versus the run. But it they didn't
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Speaker 4: have a breakout game in the run. But Darnold in
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Speaker 4: the second half really lit it up. I thought, you know,
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Speaker 4: he he passed the ball very well. And that's how
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Speaker 4: they moved the football and listen. Depending on your philosophy
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Speaker 4: as a coach, you could be a run first coach
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Speaker 4: or a pass first coach. But when it comes to
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Speaker 4: calling the game, you're going to call what you think
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Speaker 4: is going to get you first downs, what's going to happen,
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Speaker 4: And that's the fun of calling a game, you know,
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Speaker 4: And so you can't be that predictable as a play caller.
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Speaker 2: I don't think, Yeah, it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: I mean they feel like they play action passed now
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Speaker 3: almost every play.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, and we've had a conversation back in Week one,
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Speaker 3: like you play action passed one time and the entire game.
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Speaker 2: And so what lesson learned? I suppose.
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Speaker 3: And I thought Sam with his legs was very effective
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Speaker 3: at times, and he's got that athletic ability. I'd kind
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Speaker 3: of like to see that a little bit more. But
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Speaker 3: he scrambled his way out of danger and for productive
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Speaker 3: yardage yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he shows. You don't expect it from him, but
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Speaker 4: he shows. I think he's pretty quick. He's pretty fast,
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Speaker 4: and he's not a little guy, you know. But yes,
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Speaker 4: that was an added part of it that led to
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Speaker 4: a real good functioning offense. In the second half.
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Speaker 3: Mike Homer and Hugh Millen Monday Morning Quarterback session will continue.
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Speaker 3: We got a lot more to discuss after the Seahawks
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Speaker 3: thirty seven nine went over the Falcons yesterday. A Sports
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Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM Darnolds.
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Speaker 2: On third down pressure coms to the zone. It's Jackson
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Speaker 2: spit that jickbaw.
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Speaker 3: For the second time today with a touchdown. I gotta
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Speaker 3: ask about something else, but maybe that's a good place
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Speaker 3: to start. Second segment here with coach and with a
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Speaker 3: Hugh Monday Morning quarterback rolls on. Seahawks went over the
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Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons by a final score of thirty seven to
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Speaker 3: nine yesterday, pulling away in the second half, outscoring the
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Speaker 3: Falcons thirty one to three in that second half. You're
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Speaker 3: a big fan of the jump pass from a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: We had two successful ones yesterday, including a touchdown. Do
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Speaker 3: you like that idea of leaving your feet and throwing
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Speaker 3: the ball in the end zone?
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Speaker 4: You like that?
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Speaker 2: Coach?
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Speaker 4: Do I like it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you like that?
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Speaker 4: Not really?
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Speaker 2: Tim Tebow used to.
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Speaker 4: Do that a lot. Yeah, jump pass, Well, if you
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Speaker 4: know what it's like anything else, If it's a touchdown.
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Speaker 4: I liked it, you know, but generally speaking, no, keep
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Speaker 4: your feet on the ground.
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Speaker 2: Dude. You do a lot of jump passes in your career. Well,
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Speaker 2: if I had, you wouldn't have been able to know.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Gravity had a particular effect on me. But but I
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Speaker 2: would say, you know what, mike it when I when
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Speaker 2: I coached youth in high school football, I would tell
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Speaker 2: our receivers I would put this in this category. I said, look,
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Speaker 2: we love one handed catches. We will celebrate that. We'll
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Speaker 2: have what we call it, We'll have a meeting in
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Speaker 2: the sky, will go chest bump and everything on one condition.
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Speaker 2: Yet you could not have got your second hand on it,
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Speaker 2: right and so and and so, I would say, jump pass.
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Speaker 2: If if if that's what your instincts tell you you
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Speaker 2: got to jump pass, Well, then tell me, could have
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Speaker 2: you not executed the play with your feet on the ground?
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Speaker 2: If the if the answer is no, you couldn't have,
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Speaker 2: and you make a play out of it, then beautiful that.
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Speaker 2: Uh so at anywate I see those in a similar
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Speaker 2: vein how about you?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. But when I also wrote
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Speaker 4: down that on and we talked about Sam Darnold, interceptions.
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Speaker 4: Okay all season long, they you're good. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, no, no,
19:21
Speaker 4: you know what you yelled at me. He yelled at me.
19:24
Speaker 6: No.
19:25
Speaker 4: So but he on the interception, it was he rolled
19:29
Speaker 4: out to his right, he turned, he's getting pressure. You
19:32
Speaker 4: look down the field, everyone's covered, everyone's covered. And plus
19:37
Speaker 4: it's a tough throw for a right handed quarterback. Now
19:39
Speaker 4: he does it, yeah, he does it well. But when
19:42
Speaker 4: he's rolling out, so he got to turn the shoulders.
19:44
Speaker 4: And then that was one he should not have thrown.
19:48
Speaker 4: That was one that we talked about before and and uh,
19:52
Speaker 4: where your body, your body mechanics, your body is in
19:55
Speaker 4: a bad position, and they were covered, and just a
19:58
Speaker 4: bad decision to make to throw it. And so you know,
20:02
Speaker 4: he's not doing that quite so much anymore. But I'd
20:05
Speaker 4: like to see feet on the ground most of the time.
20:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, what about let's go over the defense. Just
20:13
Speaker 2: kind of blanket statement or blanket question. What really stood
20:18
Speaker 2: out to you from what you saw on that side
20:20
Speaker 2: of the ball.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, their defense is really good, and in
20:26
Speaker 4: the first half, Atlanta was actually doing some things that
20:30
Speaker 4: kind of surprised me. I thought they got a great
20:32
Speaker 4: running back and he got some yards rushing. Cousins completed
20:36
Speaker 4: some balls, so it was it was a little different
20:38
Speaker 4: in the first half. The front, the defensive front didn't
20:44
Speaker 4: dominate like they normally do when they start games or
20:47
Speaker 4: in the first half. But what stuck out to me,
20:50
Speaker 4: what has stuck out to me all season long and
20:53
Speaker 4: now even more with each game they play, is their secondary.
20:58
Speaker 4: You know. And I don't know if many of us
21:00
Speaker 4: thought about Joe being the starting corner of the corner
21:03
Speaker 4: out there. We knew about Witherspoon, but then Love came
21:07
Speaker 4: back yesterday, but he hasn't been here. The guys that
21:10
Speaker 4: filled in have done a really good job. But it's
21:14
Speaker 4: hard to pass the ball against this team, it really is.
21:17
Speaker 4: And if they get pressure, if they get pressure, it's
21:20
Speaker 4: really hard. So uh but I would say that and
21:24
Speaker 4: the linebackers, you know, Jones is just really good. But
21:29
Speaker 4: there's secondary is the thing that jumps out of me.
21:32
Speaker 5: Hugh, what about Emon Worry?
21:34
Speaker 4: Then?
21:34
Speaker 5: I mean that guy is just filled up the statute yesterday.
21:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of didn't talk about him because I
21:40
Speaker 4: have trouble with those names sometimes sound yeah the big
21:48
Speaker 4: can call no he he well he is remarkable in
21:55
Speaker 4: many ways, size, all the all the measurables, and now
22:00
Speaker 4: as he's learning, as he's learning kind of the system
22:05
Speaker 4: and maybe not just rely on his physical attributes, but
22:09
Speaker 4: play the system. You know, I think he's going to
22:12
Speaker 4: be He's going to be mentioned for a long time.
22:16
Speaker 4: He's really good player, really good. Yeah, and he's got
22:18
Speaker 4: like sixteen different roles. It feels like on defense, I
22:21
Speaker 4: mean that's right. You're sitting there watching somebody that athletic
22:24
Speaker 4: and can catch a bobbled the interception across the middle.
22:28
Speaker 4: Are you thinking to yourself, Hey, Mike, I could use
22:30
Speaker 4: him on offense too, since we're making him a jack
22:33
Speaker 4: of all trades. No, and then his block on the
22:36
Speaker 4: field goal. Yeah, I don't know how long his arm is.
22:39
Speaker 4: He probably knows how long his arm is, but it
22:41
Speaker 4: seemed like he was about four feet long when.
22:44
Speaker 2: He came in there. Yeah, go go get is leaning?
22:46
Speaker 4: Oh boy?
22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, his span is eighty seven percentile for safeties
22:51
Speaker 2: and and and his height as ninety first percentile, So
22:56
Speaker 2: combine the two and he just you know, he's going
22:58
Speaker 2: to have that extra like all the other corners who
23:01
Speaker 2: were normally in that position. Mike it'd be like hand
23:04
Speaker 2: him a a ping pong paddle or a racquetball racket
23:08
Speaker 2: like like they just you know, a longer reach. But
23:12
Speaker 2: but I mentioned corners in the first hour that that
23:15
Speaker 2: are usually the guys that mann that because they can
23:17
Speaker 2: turn that that corner. But amon worry obviously, in the
23:22
Speaker 2: judgment of Mike McDonald and Harbor, the special teams coach said, hey,
23:25
Speaker 2: this guy can turn the hoop on that too. That's
23:28
Speaker 2: that's difficult to turn that radius the way he did.
23:31
Speaker 2: And so he had the the athleticism and the body
23:34
Speaker 2: lean to be able to do it, but then the
23:36
Speaker 2: length to be able to get the block.
23:37
Speaker 4: You know what I always anytime a field goal or
23:41
Speaker 4: pat is blocked, I go back and look at what
23:44
Speaker 4: the offensive line did and the guy whoever was on
23:48
Speaker 4: the outside there that was, you know, was responsibility. I
23:51
Speaker 4: think the block im and Uri it was it was
23:57
Speaker 4: he kind of stuck out his arm and elbow out
23:59
Speaker 4: a little bit. But that's not gonna work. It's not
24:02
Speaker 4: gonna work. You got to block him. And so it
24:06
Speaker 4: always surprises me a little bit that that is. We
24:09
Speaker 4: talked about coaching. Okay, we talked about coaching and the
24:12
Speaker 4: special teams coach under the gun. That guy didn't do
24:16
Speaker 4: that right. He didn't do that right, and as a result,
24:19
Speaker 4: a great athlete made the block.
24:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking great athletes, Riquell for like, the fifteenth game
24:26
Speaker 3: in a row has gotten a taunting penalty, or at
24:28
Speaker 3: least that feels like to me, is this a week,
24:31
Speaker 3: you know, coming off a really impressive win where maybe
24:35
Speaker 3: you're going to make a little example out of him
24:38
Speaker 3: that why are you not learning your lesson? Why are
24:41
Speaker 3: you doing this every single game? You're not allowed to
24:45
Speaker 3: stand over people. You're playing good football right now again,
24:48
Speaker 3: but you can't stand over your receiver and yell things
24:52
Speaker 3: at them.
24:52
Speaker 2: It's the rule.
24:54
Speaker 3: And then you act like you're such a victim afterwards,
24:56
Speaker 3: like how could you possibly call that because it's been
24:59
Speaker 3: called every single time you've done it this year. Is
25:02
Speaker 3: this a good week to maybe teach Rica a little
25:05
Speaker 3: hard lesson that we don't haunt, we don't take fifteen
25:08
Speaker 3: yard penalties even when we're up twenty eight.
25:11
Speaker 4: You know what, that's the thing that what if the
25:13
Speaker 4: game was close? What if the game was closed? Now
25:16
Speaker 4: we're up twenty eight, so we still won. The game
25:19
Speaker 4: didn't have a huge effect on the game. But absolutely
25:22
Speaker 4: you cannot do this. And so to answer your question, Chuck, yeah,
25:27
Speaker 4: they should have done it, but they probably have had
25:30
Speaker 4: I would guess they've had the conversation already, maybe more
25:34
Speaker 4: than a couple times. But then how many times you've
25:37
Speaker 4: talked to him about it before you do something a
25:39
Speaker 4: little more dramatic? You know, Okay, you sit down for
25:42
Speaker 4: a while because you're going to cost us and that's
25:46
Speaker 4: not how we play. That's not how we coach, that's
25:48
Speaker 4: not how we play. What's for a while now, that's
25:53
Speaker 4: a good question, serio. I mean, you know that idea
25:57
Speaker 4: about Okay, we're going to put him in. We're gonna
26:00
Speaker 4: he's gonna miss two series. You see teams do that
26:03
Speaker 4: you missed two? You know, he's who was it? Somebody?
26:06
Speaker 4: Somebody's not getting to practice or he's asleep and he
26:09
Speaker 4: gets late to meetings and stuff.
26:11
Speaker 2: Some team Cowboys that a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
26:14
Speaker 2: I think Schottenheimer had to deal with that.
26:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had to deal with and so he he
26:18
Speaker 4: doesn't start him, but he gets into the third series
26:21
Speaker 4: or something like that. Uh, if it's something that you think,
26:27
Speaker 4: you know, those types of slaps on the hand, either
26:31
Speaker 4: do it or you don't. You yell at him, or
26:34
Speaker 4: you talk to him, I should say, and he either
26:37
Speaker 4: gets it or he doesn't. If he doesn't get it,
26:41
Speaker 4: then maybe he might not get some other coaching things,
26:44
Speaker 4: other teaching moments, and then you don't do it now.
26:48
Speaker 4: But do you do something at the end of the year.
26:50
Speaker 3: Mike Homer and Hughmellan, It's Monday Morning Quarterback. One more
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Speaker 3: final session here of Monday Morning Quarterback here today, Well,
27:13
Speaker 3: not the final session, it's I have many more of these,
27:16
Speaker 3: but final segment of today's session of Monday Morning Quarterback.
27:19
Speaker 3: One last thing here for a coach. We go round
27:22
Speaker 3: the room, Bucky, what do you got?
27:23
Speaker 5: What are you feeling when you're the coach and things
27:26
Speaker 5: are rolling like they were yesterday in the second half.
27:28
Speaker 5: Good team, bad team. I don't care. It's an NFL team.
27:30
Speaker 5: You put up thirty plus points. I saw a stat
27:32
Speaker 5: yesterday where that's the fourth time this season that the
27:36
Speaker 5: Seahawks have had a thirty plus point half of football.
27:40
Speaker 5: The entire NFL combined has six outside of them. So
27:44
Speaker 5: when it's rolling like that, you know, what do you
27:46
Speaker 5: feel like?
27:47
Speaker 4: Is it?
27:47
Speaker 6: So?
27:47
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't.
27:48
Speaker 4: Know what to play? I know they're all going to work.
27:53
Speaker 4: I never felt that exactly, but that Super Bowl against
27:59
Speaker 4: my Broncos, you didn't feel that. Well, that was different. Yeah,
28:02
Speaker 4: I know I felt like you felt that A good
28:05
Speaker 4: feeling there. Yeah, but no, it's it's a good feeling.
28:09
Speaker 4: But it's like you do have that feeling. I can
28:13
Speaker 4: dial up anything or just about anything, but then you
28:16
Speaker 4: have to be smart with it. I mean, you can't
28:18
Speaker 4: just get crazy and say, Okay, we're gonna pass, we're
28:21
Speaker 4: gonna get all these yards, we're gonna do all this stuff.
28:23
Speaker 4: You still have to stay in your rhythm. But to
28:26
Speaker 4: say you don't you don't have that feeling like it's
28:30
Speaker 4: going to work, you know. No, I'm I had those
28:34
Speaker 4: feelings every once in a while though it's gonna work.
28:37
Speaker 4: I remember one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hear
28:40
Speaker 4: what you got.
28:41
Speaker 2: Well. I'm tempted to ask Mike about Andy and the Chiefs,
28:44
Speaker 2: but I think the football world Mike is is talking
28:48
Speaker 2: about what transpired in college football with and the selection committee,
28:54
Speaker 2: Your b Yu Cougar's are are part of the controversy.
28:58
Speaker 2: I think in a lot of people's eyes. Just do
29:00
Speaker 2: you have a thought or two about what transpired Saturday
29:03
Speaker 2: and then yesterday with the selection committee I.
29:07
Speaker 4: Heard now, I don't know. You can tell me if
29:09
Speaker 4: this happened that when it came the selection committee got
29:14
Speaker 4: a call from a former quarterback at Washington saying b
29:20
Speaker 4: Yu did not deserve to be in this thing this year.
29:24
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's any truth to that.
29:26
Speaker 2: Well, I know that one that might have if given
29:30
Speaker 2: the opportunity. Yeah, yeah, you might be tracking on something.
29:34
Speaker 4: No, but you know, I haven't followed it too much
29:37
Speaker 4: other than the fact that the one thing that bothered
29:40
Speaker 4: not bothered me. But I didn't quite understand I shouldn't
29:44
Speaker 4: say that either. I kind of got it, but I
29:46
Speaker 4: didn't agree with it. Was Alabama has three losses, don't they? Yeah, Okay,
29:52
Speaker 4: so they to have a bunch of teams with a
29:55
Speaker 4: much better record or a better record not even come
29:58
Speaker 4: close to making it, and have al Obama in there.
30:01
Speaker 4: I don't know what that's about.
30:02
Speaker 3: Really, Well, Alabama, they had the same Alabama had two losses,
30:06
Speaker 3: but they played an extra game, right because they played
30:08
Speaker 3: in the conference championship. But my whole argument, which is
30:13
Speaker 3: a little different than Hughes, is that, Okay, if you
30:16
Speaker 3: were head and shoulders above everybody else, then you can
30:18
Speaker 3: afford that loss. But they made it very clear in
30:21
Speaker 3: the selection process that the previous week Notre Dame's two
30:24
Speaker 3: loss season was better than Alabama's two loss season.
30:27
Speaker 2: So how does our.
30:28
Speaker 3: Third loss, even if they did get an extra game,
30:31
Speaker 3: how does that not factor in the conversation.
30:33
Speaker 2: I would have kept Alabama out of it.
30:36
Speaker 4: But you can imagine, you can just imagine. I've been
30:39
Speaker 4: in meetings like that. You get into that meeting with group,
30:42
Speaker 4: with those guys, and they're talking about maybe that very
30:45
Speaker 4: thing is notre ed aime in fim open the discussion.
30:48
Speaker 4: You have a lot of different opinions, and so someone
30:51
Speaker 4: I don't really know how they come if there's one
30:55
Speaker 4: man that finally decides, I don't know that. But anyway,
31:00
Speaker 4: I said, you know, the SEC, what do they have
31:01
Speaker 4: twenty five teams in the league? Yes, you know, I
31:03
Speaker 4: mean he was you know, Well, then they got Howard
31:06
Speaker 4: fine By him or whatever is what's his name?
31:09
Speaker 2: Fi fine Ball?
31:10
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he wants to be the next coach of
31:12
Speaker 4: the of the Cleveland Browns. You know, I mean, so
31:16
Speaker 4: you know.
31:16
Speaker 2: Is there any oh, go ahead? I have no thoughts.
31:21
Speaker 2: Is there anybody in this conversation who thinks that the
31:24
Speaker 2: SEC is not the best conference when measured deep the
31:29
Speaker 2: entire depth, not just the top two or three, because
31:32
Speaker 2: I think the Big ten UH is easily just as good.
31:34
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about five, ten, twelve teams deep. Is
31:38
Speaker 2: there anybody who doesn't think that the SEC is the
31:41
Speaker 2: number one conference in football?
31:43
Speaker 4: I do.
31:43
Speaker 2: I think that I do. Okay, I would say so too,
31:47
Speaker 2: so so Alabama on the regular season as determined, as
31:52
Speaker 2: structured by the SEC, the SEC, and you and a
31:56
Speaker 2: hundred years from now, as they said earlier, you can
31:58
Speaker 2: look up and Alabama as the regular season champion of
32:02
Speaker 2: the SEC. I don't think that I want to have
32:07
Speaker 2: a twelve team I don't think it's fair to have
32:09
Speaker 2: a twelve team tournament and the number one team for
32:14
Speaker 2: an entire season in the toughest conference is left out
32:17
Speaker 2: of a twelve team playoff. And so I know that says, well,
32:22
Speaker 2: what if they lost seventeen to nothing? I know there's
32:24
Speaker 2: some some tough questions that that would lead to. But
32:28
Speaker 2: I did you know everybody else is sitting around, you know,
32:31
Speaker 2: Notre Dame was watching UH and Texas or Texas A
32:37
Speaker 2: and m was watching, and Ole Miss was watching Mike.
32:40
Speaker 2: In pro football, you don't you try and win so
32:43
Speaker 2: you get a buye college football's got it asked backwards.
32:46
Speaker 2: You try and win so to give the other teams
32:49
Speaker 2: that are below you they get the buy. But you
32:52
Speaker 2: got to play and then risk your chance of being
32:55
Speaker 2: in the in the tournament. Look, I think there's great arguments, Mike,
32:59
Speaker 2: Mike Chuck laid out a great argument and it has merit.
33:03
Speaker 2: I just happened to, you know, be more persuaded by
33:08
Speaker 2: the argument that Alabama shouldn't lose that opportunity given everything
33:12
Speaker 2: they accomplished and by the way, they had the number
33:13
Speaker 2: one strength of schedule in the SEC.
33:16
Speaker 4: You know, do you There's been a lot of talk
33:19
Speaker 4: about this. It generates a lot of discussion. Are the
33:24
Speaker 4: rules going to? Is there any way to change it?
33:25
Speaker 4: So meah, some of them they already.
33:28
Speaker 3: I mean the first year of the tournament was last year,
33:30
Speaker 3: and there were some obvious things that needed to be changed,
33:32
Speaker 3: and they changed them last offseason, and now they're going
33:35
Speaker 3: to have to do it again. Yeah, and they're going
33:36
Speaker 3: to be a couple of other obvious things are going
33:38
Speaker 3: to have to be changed. But we're in the infancy
33:40
Speaker 3: of this. It's like a two year old baby. And
33:42
Speaker 3: we lived with a crap system for one hundred years
33:45
Speaker 3: in college football that didn't even give the Washington Huskies
33:48
Speaker 3: and Hugh mill and the chance to prove that they
33:50
Speaker 3: were better than Robbie Bosco and the BYU Cougar.
33:53
Speaker 2: So it's a much better system than that. I think
33:55
Speaker 2: we can all agree about that.
33:56
Speaker 4: I didn't bring that up intentionally because I don't want
34:00
Speaker 4: my friend to have a bad lunch today or something.
34:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, joke you think it's funny, right, Yeah,
34:06
Speaker 2: that's good. No, just make make your jokes.
34:09
Speaker 4: I know you for I know you've forgotten about this.
34:12
Speaker 4: You it's it's over and done with you.
34:15
Speaker 2: I can only tell you every single play of that
34:17
Speaker 2: holiday boll All right.
34:20
Speaker 3: Well that'll do it for us, Thank you, coach, Thank
34:22
Speaker 3: you here, appreciate you. All right, another sashion comes to
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