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Quarter mark team grades, Tigers on top of MLB, Orioles collapse · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: If you got pop for doing steroids, then you should
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  Speaker 1: not be in the whole thing. And my thing with Pete,
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  Speaker 1: why Pete does it because you broke the gold game.
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  Speaker 2: You don't Kim. That's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I know AJ will like this.
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  Speaker 4: So before we talk about baseball, the NBA playoffs are
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  Speaker 4: going on right now. Forget that the NBA Draft lottery
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  Speaker 4: happened and.
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  Speaker 3: The conspiracy theories were flying. I was reading an article.
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  Speaker 1: Every time the MAVs lose, like their best player, they
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  Speaker 1: get the first pick in the draft. It's like happened
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  Speaker 1: three times, but it was like they're the magic got
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  Speaker 1: Shack and the next yer they got Penny.
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  Speaker 3: But do you think that something is getting rigged. It's
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  Speaker 3: kind of hard to pull that off.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the cold ping pong ball, the frozen ping
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  Speaker 2: pong ball. You haven't heard the conspiracy.
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  Speaker 3: Theories that you can rig the ping pong balls.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a way, like if you freeze them or something,
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  Speaker 2: it goes. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There was there's a whole thing about it. If you
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  Speaker 1: got to go online, it gets deep. This should be
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  Speaker 1: in the weeds.
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  Speaker 4: So should I buy into any of this or believe
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  Speaker 4: what I was reading last night, which was how there
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  Speaker 4: would have to be a lot of crooks involved to
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  Speaker 4: pull something like this off.
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  Speaker 1: All it really needs to be is is is a couple? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not worth Commissioner, whoever does the people right?
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  Speaker 1: The Jews ain't worth the squeeze just because you get
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  Speaker 1: the first pick. Look at the Sixers. They've squandered that.
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  Speaker 1: Just because you get the first pick doesn't mean you're
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  Speaker 1: getting Jordan.
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  Speaker 5: Or Shack.
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  Speaker 3: The flag. It's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: They've You got to trust the process with the Sixers,
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  Speaker 1: they're still in the process, twelve year process. Right, Embid
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  Speaker 1: is still trusting the process, and now In doesn't trust
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  Speaker 1: his kneecaps.
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  Speaker 3: What about for tanking teams? You gotta trust the process.
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  Speaker 1: With the White that's the White Sox and the Rockies
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  Speaker 1: are going to get the tenth pick next year.
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  Speaker 3: How about the Orioles. They went through a process. They
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  Speaker 3: lost fans.
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  Speaker 2: For six they're losing. They're losing a lot of games.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're losing a lot of games. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: talk about them.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Let's charge the mound and talk about the
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  Speaker 4: top record in Major League Baseball, right, yeah, talking about
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  Speaker 4: and that record belongs to the Detroit Tigers twenty nine
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  Speaker 4: and fifteen, a half game better right now than the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 4: one game up on the Padres and the Mets for
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  Speaker 4: best overall record in Major League Baseball. They pull off
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  Speaker 4: another thrilling win yesterday, despite the play of the year
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  Speaker 4: in my mind and the call of the year in
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  Speaker 4: my mind.
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  Speaker 3: By the visiting broadcaster.
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  Speaker 4: Visiting broadcaster, Oh, I didn't hear the Red Sox one.
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  Speaker 3: I only heard I was watch Red Sox one was
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  Speaker 3: good too.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching the Tigers, not so as I.
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  Speaker 4: Heard the Red Sox one later. The Tigers one was money.
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  Speaker 4: And he had so many little bits and pieces that
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  Speaker 4: he added to it, like pinball, and if there was
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  Speaker 4: goaltending in baseball, this would be it. He was just
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  Speaker 4: on fire. It was one of those where he, you know,
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  Speaker 4: had a heat check crats. He was like, let me
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  Speaker 4: toss one thing out there that no one else would, okay,
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  Speaker 4: that hit. Let me toss another out there that no
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  Speaker 4: one else would that hit, And then you have to
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  Speaker 4: wait for a second and go. This was the visiting broadcast.
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  Speaker 4: Some visiting broadcasters still would be like, it makes the catch. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: And I'm watching right and I'm like this is exciting
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  Speaker 4: because especially nowadays, scrats a lot of people do watch,
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  Speaker 4: you know, from other places on like MLB dot TV,
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  Speaker 4: and so you get sometimes you don't get to choose
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  Speaker 4: the broadcast the way you want. And Jason Bennetti delivered,
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  Speaker 4: but really also so did sit on Raphaela and will
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  Speaker 4: You're a bray you They look like they finish each
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  Speaker 4: other's sentences, look like it looked like whiffle ball in
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  Speaker 4: the backyard, Like this is like the the joy everybody's
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  Speaker 4: joy and reaction.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't the.
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  Speaker 6: Non chalant like whatever bro like pound your chest, look
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  Speaker 6: at me, Like it looked like whiffle ball in the
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  Speaker 6: backyard where you can't go over a certain line and
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  Speaker 6: you gotta like jump to knock it back in and
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  Speaker 6: your buddy's there just trying to make the catch.
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  Speaker 5: I love it. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of the better catches. It was one
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  Speaker 1: of the coolest catches. Can't really call it a better
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  Speaker 1: great catch because it was it was such a a
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  Speaker 1: clunky like kind of niche niche catch, but it was
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  Speaker 1: cool catch just because the way they Brady brought it
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  Speaker 1: back and then why was Raffael think how far Rafael
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  Speaker 1: had to run to get.
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  Speaker 2: There, and he was right there perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Now you've seen guys pop him up and in the
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  Speaker 1: infield and Guy's other guys catch it, but you never
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  Speaker 1: see this in the outfield. So for him to jump
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  Speaker 1: up Hendrick, they just tied the game. Hendrick was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's six to five, I'm giving it up. And then that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's awesome. I mean, Hendricks is like,
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  Speaker 1: Hendrick says some words we can't repeat on the show,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, and then Bennetti's call and Andy Dirks
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  Speaker 1: was his color guy was just perfect and Benetti pinball
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  Speaker 1: and saying all the things he said.
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  Speaker 2: It was just it was. It was one of the
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  Speaker 2: and the Tigers won.
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  Speaker 1: And but the interesting part about the Tiger's winning, our
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  Speaker 1: boy j Hen was one got the hit, yep, not
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  Speaker 1: Hovey bias. They had a run around third and no
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  Speaker 1: outs and they strike out, I believe, and then Jay
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  Speaker 1: Hen came up with the hit with two outs. So
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers are doing it right now, they're doing it.
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  Speaker 6: They're really good, fun to watch. They're fun to watch.
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  Speaker 6: There's no they make adjustments. I know, big leag teams
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  Speaker 6: make adjustments and really good teams, really good lineups, make
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  Speaker 6: adjustments through the game, and they like you know, they
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  Speaker 6: attack like the Dodgers, just attack like weaknesses and teams
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  Speaker 6: bullpens like guys are tipping. It looks like the Tigers
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  Speaker 6: when you watch an entire game. They feed off of
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  Speaker 6: each others at bats and they just wear teams down
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  Speaker 6: to the point where they get to that situation. I
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  Speaker 6: thought they were gonna blow it and they were gonna
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  Speaker 6: go into extras, but obviously Jay hen comes through with
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  Speaker 6: a huge not It just seems like they're always putting
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  Speaker 6: themselves in situations to knock the pitcher out, get the
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  Speaker 6: winning hit, start a round, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 5: They're fun to.
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  Speaker 3: Watch, obviously. Scoobles being Scoobale.
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  Speaker 2: Scooble pitch really good.
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  Speaker 1: Scoobale won my lock last night by he got the
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  Speaker 1: one out he needed and he was rolling and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, huh easy, and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: he gave up three runs. I out of nowhere and
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  Speaker 1: it was five to five, and Tommy Cainley, our guy,
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  Speaker 1: came in through change ups and got out of it
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  Speaker 1: basic load. I think one out, got out of it,
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  Speaker 1: got a double play and then they went on to
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  Speaker 1: hold them off until they scored. But Tigers are playing great, man,
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  Speaker 1: The Tigers are the Tigers. It's hard for me not
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  Speaker 1: to say the Tigers are the best team in the
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  Speaker 1: American League right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to. I mean they are. I think they are.
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  Speaker 4: The second best record in the American League belongs to
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  Speaker 4: the Yankees. Those are two very different looking teams.
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  Speaker 1: The Tigers are like the young, energetic, and the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: are more like the older. We're just gonna bludge in
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  Speaker 1: you to death because we know what we're doing. Whereas
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers are just fun to watch. Yeah, they're fun
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  Speaker 1: as hell to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Yankees are just power.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Tigers have a more dynamic team. They do a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of everything right.
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  Speaker 2: They're more fun.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I can't argue with that. I think they're
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  Speaker 6: playing the best. Do you believe they're the best built team?
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  Speaker 6: That would be that would be my only question. Do
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  Speaker 6: you think they're built better than the Yankees? Or you
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  Speaker 6: could even ask the question, it might be a different answer.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think they're more they're built better to have
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  Speaker 6: more success in the postseason when you're only facing Trek
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  Speaker 6: Scoble to you know, Brendan Hanafee to Tommy Kinley to
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  Speaker 6: you know, the best of the best from every team.
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  Speaker 1: Tigers will be fun, I think for me and the
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  Speaker 1: I think the Tigers because they have better I think
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers are better clipped, especially with Cole out there.
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  Speaker 1: I think if Flaharty pitch as well, and we all
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  Speaker 1: know that the Tigers can win with as they call it,
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  Speaker 1: pitching chaos where they bix and match and do all
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  Speaker 1: these crazy things. If torcosen hobby bias swinging about the
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  Speaker 1: way they are, they can keep this up for the
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  Speaker 1: whole year. To me, they're they're best equipped to make
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  Speaker 1: a run in the World Series. Ye Now, can they
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  Speaker 1: beat a National League team?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, but I love the Tigers.
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  Speaker 3: They can keep up with the National League team.
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  Speaker 4: But to me, it still holds true this year, just
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  Speaker 4: like it did last year, the National League is significantly
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  Speaker 4: better than ridiculously better. This is one of the more
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  Speaker 4: lopsided years I've seen since I've been alive. There's so
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  Speaker 4: many exactly this year.
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  Speaker 2: Again, name start naming the top National League team's year
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  Speaker 2: at four or five at least before he gets to
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, but last year, last year, it felt like it
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  Speaker 6: came to fruition. It came to like, Okay, we see
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  Speaker 6: that the Padres are good this year. It just feels
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  Speaker 6: like the National League is just good right out of
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  Speaker 6: the jump. Look what the Cubs had to do. The
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  Speaker 6: Cubs easily had the toughest record, I mean, the toughest
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  Speaker 6: schedule through this first month and a half.
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  Speaker 5: And look where they're like there.
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  Speaker 6: Is they just have Nationally teams have from the jump
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  Speaker 6: started playing. The Braves are five hundred team right now.
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  Speaker 6: We don't think they're gonna end five hundred. So the
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  Speaker 6: National League's a gauntlet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the difference.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna look at the National League and say, there's
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  Speaker 4: some teams that don't make the playoffs that looked really good.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gonna get that in the
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  Speaker 4: American League. I think in the American League you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be like, yeah, this lines up. These teams didn't make it.
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  Speaker 3: They're not good enough.
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  Speaker 4: You might even have a wildcard team or two where
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  Speaker 4: you're like me, they're stumbling to the finish line, just
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  Speaker 4: not as deep.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's much easier to start looking at
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  Speaker 1: the National League. Teams have a chance to make the
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  Speaker 1: World Series. And win because you then if you look
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  Speaker 1: go if the American League, you are like, ah, Orioles out, Twins,
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  Speaker 1: do we buy them? I know they're on the ten
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  Speaker 1: win street.
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  Speaker 2: Do we buy them?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean Mariners? Do we buy them? With all their
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  Speaker 2: pitching injuries?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yankees? Are the Yankees Red Sox or just got swept
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  Speaker 2: by the Tigers?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: How about the Red Sox getting swept just now by
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  Speaker 4: the best good American league?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So how much do you judge there?
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  Speaker 2: But I mean the Twins are up to win again.
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  Speaker 2: The Orioles got to win one now, I know, we.
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  Speaker 6: Gotta win one out of there. If you're the Red Sox,
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  Speaker 6: if you're not proved to me on May fifteenth, is
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  Speaker 6: different than proving to me on July fifteenth that the
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  Speaker 6: Red Sox are not a five hundred team. And if
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  Speaker 6: you don't win one series against a really good squad,
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  Speaker 6: they put themselves up against the wall by trying to
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  Speaker 6: have to beat Scooball.
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  Speaker 5: In the final game of the series.
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  Speaker 6: You gotta beat You gotta take one out of these
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  Speaker 6: series if you're not just gonna hover right around five.
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  Speaker 3: Hundred crutting pitching this series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Just throwing it out there.
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  Speaker 2: Three nothing. By the way, Twinkies Buckson just went deep again.
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  Speaker 3: Later in the show, we're going to talk about that series,
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  Speaker 3: The Twins and Orioles.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: It's got its own segment. One more thing from this game.
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  Speaker 4: Did you guys see the exchange exchange between schoogle and.
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  Speaker 2: Great I love it.
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  Speaker 1: This is one thing that's come out of Schooble since
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  Speaker 1: he's been really I mean, he's always been really good,
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  Speaker 1: but since he won the cy young his personality has
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  Speaker 1: come out more and more.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome. He's been he's been running his mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Remember he had the thing with uh who was hit
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  Speaker 1: the home runoff of him and he was at no, no, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then he's like no, no, no, and then he
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  Speaker 1: said something. You know, they kind of kissed him made up.
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  Speaker 1: But right here he's like pregnant stuff swinging at the
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  Speaker 1: first pitch. Dude, it's supposed to be on my team too,
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  Speaker 1: let's not forget.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, take a damn pitch.
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  Speaker 5: Because the contracted the Tigers offered.
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  Speaker 3: He took a pitch down the pipe.
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  Speaker 2: Then he got a hit anyway, so it didn't really matter.
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  Speaker 3: Second pitch got him.
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  Speaker 2: He had already gone deep off of.
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  Speaker 4: Them, right, and then did you see what he said
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  Speaker 4: after that? Take two pitches, That's what he said. Take
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  Speaker 4: It's this funny starcasm and I love it regularly.
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  Speaker 6: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Let him talk a little bit. I mean it wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 4: To me, it means you're totally comfortable in your skin
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  Speaker 4: and you're so good that you can also have fun.
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  Speaker 4: There were certain guys that I felt like really played
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  Speaker 4: that up, Like Miguel Cabrera wasn't like the coziest always
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  Speaker 4: off the field, but on the field he would just
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  Speaker 4: be like a big teddy bear sometimes just some playing
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  Speaker 4: around something true. True, But is there a better example?
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  Speaker 4: I my point, GRIFU be kind of the one, right.
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  Speaker 4: There are guys that could just like walk around and
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  Speaker 4: be okay with having fun, joking, not like too chummy,
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  Speaker 4: but this kind of thing. Beltray is a great example. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: And I know there's a lot of players that were
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  Speaker 4: just trying to make sure that they were on the
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  Speaker 4: roster and they would say.
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  Speaker 3: I can't have fun like that. I'm like, I'm just trying.
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  Speaker 4: To survive, right. Some guys who were just like I
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  Speaker 4: gotta kill everyone that was you, some guys like krats.
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  Speaker 4: Were you on the other side of that where you're like,
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  Speaker 4: I can't, like, I feel like you could have a
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  Speaker 4: good time there. Maybe you were different, but like I mean,
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  Speaker 4: for me, I worked with Mark de Rosa for years
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  Speaker 4: and he said, my regret is I didn't have enough
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  Speaker 4: fun because I was always trying to like stay on
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  Speaker 4: the roster kind of thing. Obviously not like he was
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  Speaker 4: the end of the bench, but he just yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he felt like he he couldn't relax because he had
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  Speaker 4: to be so game mode.
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  Speaker 3: I deserve to be in the starting lineup.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if he did or not. All I
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  Speaker 5: can account for is my career. Yeah, no, I had.
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  Speaker 5: I had to be in game mode.
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  Speaker 6: Like if a completely average to below average player is,
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  Speaker 6: you know, doing the stuff that Schooble and Bregman were doing,
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  Speaker 6: maybe it's maybe it's not.
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  Speaker 5: A good look.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's the stuff that those guys the stars can do. Me,
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  Speaker 6: you go out there, you're joking, like I'm not. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not saying hi to the first baseman, you know, if
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: I know him, maybe I put my head down and
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  Speaker 6: I say so something but to me, it was always
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  Speaker 6: a bad look when somebody who was not a good
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: player would do something like.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: That postgame outside of the field. Absolutely, but take him
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: out to dinner.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: Lets you.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Roger McDowell used to get so mad, and now Roger,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I love you to death. He was one of my
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: favorite pitching coaches. But he would get so mad. A
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: guy would get like a big hit against us in
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the late innings and Freddie'd be over there like hugging
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: him and laughing. He's like, that guy just beat us,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and you're over there hugging him. Different times, different times,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: First baseman, though, often can have the most fun because
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: they get to Yeah.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: But we had Scott Miller on yesterday, right and he
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: was talking about Tom Kelly and I remember we face
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: CC when CC first came up, okay, and the word
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: was if you bunted on CC, he'd hit you.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Jock Jones buntch next to bit. He freaking smokes him.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: After the game, they're hanging out, laughing, goofing around or
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: maybe the next day and Tom Kelly's like that guy
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: hits you yesterday, You're over there hugging on what are
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: you doing I mean that was.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: To me.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: It was just a point to me, there's a difference
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: there because if you're throwing at someone, there's a high
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: risk of injury.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Isn't that the separation for you?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot of guys throw at me,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: So if I got mad at everybody, if I got
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: mad at everybody.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Threw at me, I couldn't talk to anybody.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Yours was different though.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: A lot of the time I felt like it was
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: tip for tat where it's like, hey, we hit you,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: now you're gonna hit one of our guys.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: The CC thing is different.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, I don't want you to do something
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: that is common in the game because I'm not good
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: at it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't like that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: But no off hitting somebody.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: To me, if I knew that about a pitcher, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: would bunt, hopefully I'd get on on the bunch and
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: then I would get on by the hit by pitch
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: like I'm two for two on base percent like that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: Like getting hit is I get it. People can get hurt.
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: It's not a big deal. It's not that big of
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: a deal. I think it is way more blown out
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: of proportion. Could somebody get hurt big time. Yes, hit
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: in the face. Gee, you know plenty of people that
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: got hit in the face. But it's not that big
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: a deal. The ball's got a rubber center, even even
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: when guys are throwing hard.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Now, okay, yeah, as long as you know where it's going.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: By the way, Roger McDowell was the magic Lookiekui if
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you remember Seinfeld, you haven't seen it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I do. I saw it, but man, it's been a minute.
• 17:25
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• 17:28
  Speaker 1: was Keith Rnandez and Roger.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Back in the left.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were doing that. Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be like the JFK like magic
• 17:37
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• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Kramer and they were trying to replay it, it's pretty funny.
• 17:42
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  Speaker 4: foul and you're all set. Let's talk about the Twins
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: in the Orioles. They're finishing up their series right now.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Shocker Twins are winning again. They've won twenty at twin
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: ten games in a row, ten games.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: In a row.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: It would be eleven probably here, this could be eleven.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And last year they actually did have a big winning
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: streak like this too, double digits when they were seven
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and thirteen to start the year and went on a
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: big run. Then they obviously fell apart down the stretch,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: but more surprising to see the Twins get this hot after.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Starting out so slow.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Or are we going to be talking about the Oriel
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: selling parts at the trade bar?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Could they keep going the way they're going?
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's getting late early in Baltimore.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned this yesterday when we got off the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: show and we were taking a peek at the game
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: because it was going on.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: It's a day game midweek. But if you win, they
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: will show up.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: If you don't, then let me take you a few
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: years back to when the team tanked.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And I was I used to dread going to Baltimore
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: because there was not a lot of people there. No,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: it was seven thousand degrees in Baltimore. You always get
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: at least one day game there and there was nobody
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: there and it was a raindelate. Every single time. We're like, gosh,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get rangelated in Baltimore. But yeah, I mean, listen,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: they're fifteen and twenty six. They lose right now, they're
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: fifteen and t twenty seven. That is that we're not
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: talking like, Okay, the Brave started out Owen seven. They
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: played the Dodgers potterish seven. Fine, they got plenty, they
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: got one hundred fifty five games. We're past the quarter point.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Now you're it's starting. It's as Yogi Bear said, it's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: getting late early, big fellow.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: What was the Astros record last year that was bad?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it sixteen and twenty six? Or was it? Does
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that sound right? I'll find it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they weren't in the AOL East.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: That's that was what I wanted to make.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: And they had pitching, yeah, and they had starting pitching.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: They didn't just have Sigano. Sigano's throat was thrown today.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he's still in the game or not.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: But that was their that was their chance. That was
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: their guy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is bad. This is bad. This
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: is bad. If you're an Raals fan, I'm sorry. This
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: is bad. This is what we said going in a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: year though, Right, it's bad.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Says that we didn't think it was gonna be bad.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: It's bad, Like, yes, the starting pitching is bad. They
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: didn't end up getting the guys that we thought they
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: should have gotten or they were trying to go get.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: They missed out on different things. I get that, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: we thought the pitching with the starting pitching wasn't gonna
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: be great and then Grayson goes down.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: But where are.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Some of the guys in this lineup you talk about?
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: We just talked about Max and like hitting together as
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: a team, figuring this stuff out. Is it something that
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: this lineup has not like learned to hit with each other?
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: But they did hit. I mean, Gunner was an MVP
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: candidate last year, and it's just what is what is it?
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: I know people are gonna say their expected numbers are
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: just through the roof. They should be doing so much better,
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: but they're not.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: We had a lot of fly balls two hundred and
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: fifty to three hundred feet.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: The problem is that, I mean the offense. I mean,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask this and I've said this, We've been
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: saying this rong.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with Adley Ritchman. It's been almost a year now.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean we're not talking like a couple of weeks
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: or we're going to this second half of June around
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: June first last year and we're almost a June first again.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You look at his numbers. I don't know what happened.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I had I love you, I really want you to
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: be better because you are so fun to watch, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you're right, but.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: What happened there?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Like Gunner's if you look at their lineup, there's one
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: guy that's doing really well. It's Gunnar Henderson. The rest
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of that lineup is not in a good place right now.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You're right, read the ops isn't read all that. I mean,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's not a good lineup right now. I'm sorry.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It's just not.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: On the year.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I would say probably the other one that stands out.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: And I'm looking at the numbers so I don't sound stupid, Yeah,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I'm right. Cedric Mullins is also looking pretty good.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Well, Heart's having a nice year, yeah, right, but it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: not enough, no, I mean Cursed Ads six twenty six, Obs,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Rutchman six twenty three, Holiday seven oh one, Okay,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Mountcastle six point fifteen, Mullins is seven eighty one and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that you know, and you O'Hearn eight ninety three. He's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: having a really nice year.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Their whole thing, right was supposed to be they can
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: out slug you.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Last year they had a top five offense. I watched
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Fair Territory. Ken Rosenthal talked about this this year. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: think they ranked twenty fifth right now in Runsberg game.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: So it's all falling apart right now. And does it
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Mattercrats that they're often down in this exact scenario.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: This is what happens in.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: So many games already this year. You're down three to
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: nothing mid game. Obviously, yes they should be scoring two.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: But it do feel like they're playing behind so frequently
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: due to the starting pitching deficiency.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: Yes, but to me, when you're on team like that,
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: it's July that that shows up.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: You're not like.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Exhausted from the same thing happening over and over again
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: in the first forty games of the year.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Like if you're in July and you're like, oh.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: We got a lead, we got a one run lead
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: in the seventh, and then your bullpen has just habitually
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: blown it all season, and then two then you're a rundown.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: They give up a two run homer and you're a rundown.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: That's when you're like, uh, deflating. This team is built
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: on the offense. These are young dudes that are playing
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: every single day and they need to step up and
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: make their expected batting averages and balls in play and
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: all these expected stats turn into W's or else. It
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: is way too late.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: They also didn't develop on the pitching side like many
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: thought they would. Chase McDermott was supposed to be a
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: mid rotation guy. I think he's been hurt. I think
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: he's still hurt. Kid Povich hasn't worked out yet. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: some of the guys, and he's twenty five, Some of
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: the guys that they expected on the pitching side just
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: haven't developed. Of course, the headliner there is our boy,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Grayson Rodriguez. Money when he's there. He just hasn't been
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: able to figure out how to stay on the field.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: So when you add those guys up the development sides
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: of problem. They're making mistakes on who they're selecting in
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: free agency with the starting rotation, and that becomes a mess.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: You have a slow start on offense. Now you have
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: a disaster. That's where we're at right now.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: And what do they do though?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: What's the answer this year? Nothing?
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: What can they do?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: You're not trading for a starter right now. Nobody makes
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: trades in May anymore. I think unless they go on
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: a heater krats there might be eight games under five
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: hundred sel City in late June, early July.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Do you believe this team can go on a heater.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Not the way they're pitching is lined up right now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Not with the pitching. No, because you can get stopped. Okay,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: you can get stopped in five seconds with a bat outing.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: No matter how hot you are, you can lose ten eight.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: So me, no, I don't see them doing ten plus
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: in a row right now. Maybe in like August or
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: September if everybody's back, But man, I mean you might
• 25:58
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• 26:35
  Speaker 3: In the Weeds. Let's do quarter mark grades.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, CBS Sports put out grades, and I think the
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: best way to tackle this is to show you league
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: by league, So we'll start with the National League.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: The grades Digest.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Let me know where you think they went very wrong,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: or you can agree with them on some things too.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Let's start with the National League Crats, Slice and Dice,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: and I'll say this for the podcast crowd who's listening. Cubs, Dodgers,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Padres met to get a's. There's b pluses for the Phillies, Giants,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: and the Cardinals, the Diamondbacks, gotta b c's for the
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Reds and Brewers. D's for the Braves, Marlins and Nationals.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: F's for the Rockies and the Pirates. Christ do you
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: want to pick on one first?
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: You know what, I would say, one of those a's
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: needs to have a plus beside it, and to me
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: it's the Padres. I think what the Padres have done,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: I get it there, and they've had.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: An A first quarter.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: But with what they have with the with the people
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: who they've lost, Jackson, Merrill, Muscrove's not there right now, you,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Darvis hasn't thrown a pitch yet, they have absolutely had
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: an A plus first quarter because what they're doing is
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: they're setting a different precedent for that division that it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: not just gonna be the Dodgers. And to me, the
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Dodgers were supposed to be there. So in their account
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: were they supposed to be a B? And you know what,
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: the Rockies shouldn't get an F. The Rockies shouldn't even
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: be They should just get an NA or what did
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: they put on your report card when you an I incomplete?
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: They didn't get a great? Yeah, they dropped out. They
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: clearly have dropped out of school expelled.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Hey for me, I know this sounds.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Like Arizona to me, shouldn't have a B.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: What should they have?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: They should be a C because they should be better
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: than what they are. To me, they should be a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: better team than what they are. They're twenty three and
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: twenty one, and I mean, I know they've had some injuries,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but every team's had injuries, you know. But Edward Rodriguez
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: hasn't pitched very well, Corbyn Burns, you know, they haven't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: pitched the way we thought they would pitch going into
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: this year. That's they're negative rounder differential. I know you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: don't care, Scott, but that's telling right now. It's surprising me.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: They do play the Rockies though, coming up, so they've
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: got a shout to win three in a row, not.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: To get hot, But how did they get a B
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: and the Braves get a D when they're missing their
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: two best players.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. San Francisco to me, should be an
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: A too.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: The fact that they're doing as well as they are, agreed,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: because no one thought they'd be until.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, they got B plus.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but I don't know Saint Louis should be
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: an A too, because nobody thought they were gonna be
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: where they are either. I mean, you can't give everyone as,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: but in today's world you might as well.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I think you could make a case for the Marlins
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: maybe getting a C. I thought they'd be worse. They're
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: playing just as well as the Nationals right now. They're
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: pretty much neck and neck those two teams. They're game
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: part do you think the Nationals?
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: I think, based on what we see, it's less expectations
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: and more just how each team is playing. So that's
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: why I don't disagree with too many of them. Like
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: the teams that have the f's are f teams if
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: you take away expectation. I think a lot of this
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: list is spot on.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: But about the American League and A for the Tigers
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: and A minus for the Mariners, B plus for the
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: A Guardians, Yankees and Royals get Bees, Red Sox, Astros, Twins,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: White Sox, Blue Jays get c's C minus for the Rangers,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Angels and Rays get DS.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: The Orioles get an F.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna go to my White Sox. How
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: do they get a C?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: They're just as bad as we thought they'd be, right,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: But fourteen and twenty nine, how do they get a SEA?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, isn't are the expectations to lose
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ten games?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Again, that's kind of what the pace they're on.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so that's C like to me that it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: should be lower. I mean Texas to me C minus,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I get it, there should be higher. To me, the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Angels are about where they are. Baltimore definitely deserves an
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: F for what we've talked about. But I don't know.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean the Angels at Tampa Bay, I don't know.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I mean they're a little there's some of them that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: are that are questionable, like.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Houston C.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: The Rangers are twenty three and twenty one.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It's not quick, it's not horrible, and they're they're right
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in the division race.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little harsh. I guess everyone thought they
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: were gonna run away with it, So I don't know.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: I think I think, I think the expectations on some
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: of these put them where they are right now, because
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, the White Sox should be in the D
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: or F range just based on the fact that they're
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: not a good baseball team, but on expectations, they're definitely
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: a C, if not a B. I mean they've they've,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: you know, soward past my expectations. To me, I think
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: the Yankees nine, Yes, that's I thought they were going.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: To lose two.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: That's losing two out of every three games. That means
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they lose a hundred again. That's that's what they're That
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: should never be the expectation. See she means it should
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: never be your expectation that we're gonna lose a hundred
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: games again. That should not be I'm sorry. There should
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: be no team in Major League Baseball that goes into
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a season says we're trying to lose a hundred games
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: But they're grading what the roster looks like, and.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I know what they're grading from where it was last year.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I get it all, but still.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: They're not grading the organization that. If you want to
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: do that, we've got plenty of f's to hand out.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: They are a worst team. They were built to be
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: a worst team this year. They got rid of Garrett Crochet,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Eric Fetti, they want to get rid of Luis Robert. Like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: there's no way you can say, eh, you know what,
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I think they just they want to they want to
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: win one hundred games, or they want to lose just
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: one hundred games. There's no way they would be happy
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: with if they lose one hundred and ten based on
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: what they put into this team to win. I thought
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: the Yankees should be in the A category. They lost
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: their ace to start the year, and maybe people will say,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: well without Aaron Judge, Well, who cares they have Aaron Judge?
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: To me, I think Aaron Judge puts them squarely in
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: the A. If you want to, they're not as good
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: as a Tigers, so you give them an A minus.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Also, injury update, Ben Joyce done for the season, So
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: there's al E Gonzalez, super hard throwing reliever Ben Joyce
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: season ending shoulder surgery.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Today. The Angels announced that sucks.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Angels aren't doing anything this year,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: but just fun to watch a dude who can pump
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: one oh five plus that that also could lead to injury.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: It's not just it's really hard to sustain that. The
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: one guy and he's kept his velocity is e Roaldist Chapman.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: Go look at his physique and then tell me, you
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: know what, it's gonna be tough to stay healthy throwing
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: one hundred and five. And that's maybe a bad narrative
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: by me because he worked really hard to get his
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: velocity up to where it was, and so crazy to
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: think a dude throwing ninety seven can jump his velocity
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: eight miles an hour his peak velocity eight miles an hour.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I will say Ben Joyce is a pretty built dude.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think he stacks up against the
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: raldist Chapman, but I mean if you look him up online,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: they're basically the same or all this is lit did
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: six four two thirty five.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Ben Joyce is listed six five two five.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: So it's not like you're looking at a guy, you
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: know who is six' one one eighty being, like, hey
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: this guy shouldn't be pumping one oh five or he's
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: gonna get. Hurt we also just don't know how all
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: this stuff works too.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: WELL i mean he also just could have gotten, hurt
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: have a shoulder.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Injury guys get.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Hurt guys throw eighty five at get shoulder.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Injuries we need to figure it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Out, yeah, shame but it's like what else can they?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Do?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Though Ben joyce's a. Reliever he doesn't pitch every, day,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: right they protected him as much as they. Could they were,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like he's not gonna throw back to back games and
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: this and. THAT i mean maybe, again maybe we don't throw,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: enough just saying.
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: So but the cons are being, reliever you get paid
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: the least of any other role in the. Field, like by,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: far relief pitchers are the least paid guys on the whole,
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: team on every. Team, Right you're if you have a
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: really good, closer he might be like fifth on the
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: team and pay, maybe, right you might get a closer,
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: paid but nobody else is getting remotely as much money
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: as anybody. ELSE a great reliever contracts like three for twenty.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: Five if you get three year deals a, reliever you
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: are doing, it doing. It you're paid the. Least and
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: for the casual, fans the fans that just kind of
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: don't watch as much baseball that maybe don't value relievers very.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: Much you're either just doing your, job which is throwing, one,
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: two three, innings or you're blowing, it so you're either,
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: whatever he's just doing what he's paid to, do or you.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: Suck that sounds a lot like a kicker to. Me
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: that's why relievers are just the kickers a baseball in my.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: OPINION i said that a lot of. It said, again
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: there's also no above and, Beyond like in the same
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: way that you're either just doing your job or you're.
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: Terrible it's kind of hard to get any recognition for
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: doing anything. Correct like you have to like not give
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: up a run for four, months which is really hard to.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Do and that's the only way anyone notices, you basically
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: if you're not a. Closer, now closers are in their
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: own little, group and we've talked a lot about that about,
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: that But i'm just talking most. Relievers seven of the
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: eight guys out there are in this.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Bucket trevor may May da mas plaining really. Good this
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: is exactly the WAY i wanted this to. Go by the,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: way check out his show On. Mondays it's really. Good
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: it's live and then we've got it afterwards.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Too.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: KRATZ i see a puzzled, face AND i think it's
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the same face THAT i had WHILE i was watching the.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Clip it's a wait reliever or backup.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Catcher don't even don't even point at, me point at this.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Guy this guy was An All. Star this guy played
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: every single. Day catching is easily the least paid position in,
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: baseball even for the best, catchers for what they, do
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: what they bring to the, field easily the lowest paid.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Relievers look at the rays if you were not the.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Closer the rays are just like we got more In TRIPLE.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: A we got more in TRIPLE. A we'll just get another.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: One especially now everybody throws hard like relievers. ARE i
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: call relievers regional sports network, fans because every team knows they're, seventh, eighth, sixth,
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: seventh eighth and nine are, sixth seventh and eighth reliever
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: inning relievers because they watch you every single, night and
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: those are the dudes that they're going to in big.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Wins maybe nationally they don't know, you but.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Listen catchers have gotten. Better, yeah but also the problem
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: with the catchers in the relievers. Too catchers are compared
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to every other. Position but it's not fair because catchers
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: don't get to play and put up the numbers because
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you don't get to play one hundred and fifty, games
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty. Games if you get to one,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: thirty you've had unbelievable year as a.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Catcher one. Twenty if you get over one hundred games
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: is a year as a, catcher you're doing a, lot.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Okay and so that was the argument for, years even
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: like we Had Brad.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Buono we're talking about war like you starting playing, war
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but you're not war against other.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Catchers you're against the rest of the.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: League and that's not a fair comparison because you can't
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: get up to. It you just never can make up
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: because you don't get enough.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Games that's why WHEN i go over a stat like
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: ops plus when we talk, CATCHERS i go.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: In ops plus isn't against catchers, only that's my se
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: against the.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: League it should be against other.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Catchers if your ops plus is one hundred as a,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: catcher which is league, average you are above average because
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: catchers are not going to hit like. That, generally you
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: should be compared in a different, realm right because you
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: can't just grab a guy Like Raphael. DEVERS i, mean
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: maybe they'll ask him to catch if they get a
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: catching injury. Joke you can't just grab a guy exactly.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Already you can't grab a guy and just throw him
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: in that. Position it doesn't, happen, right never do.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: Stop just like short, stop you can't just grab a
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: guy and say you're a big league. Shortstop you can
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: play shortstop in the big, leagues doesn't make you a
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: big league short. Stop you can catch in the big,
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: leagues that doesn't make you a big league.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Catcher.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: True, yeah some relievers get, paid some catchers get. Paid
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: the thing with catchers is that teams generally say in
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: the model that they're going to wear. Down there's a
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: few outliers that, don't and that's why They it's hard
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: to get a long term contract as a, catcher right mm,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: hmm especially in free. Agency Like Alejandro kirk got. Paid
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: he's still in the midst of his service. Time right,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: control team control when you have. Agency, yeah REMEMBER jt Real,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Muto like he finally signed back With.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Philly nobody was out, there nobody wanted. Him his agent said.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: It Jeff barry's been on this Show he's, like nobody
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: called FOR.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Jt Real muto in his.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Prime nobody called and they had to go back to
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: The phillies like, okay and The phillies obviously were, like
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: we'll give you what we think's fair, value but there
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: was no other team to even use as.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Leverage that's when the.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Teams and players meet up and lock up on extensions
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: before it. Happens it makes sense for the, catcher it
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: makes sense for the, team and they get a team
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: the team friendly. Price catchers get more long, term long
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: term equity in the, team and they get it longer
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: than they probably would get it if they go to free.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Agency, Yep i'm with, you.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: All.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Right we got a few. Minutes do you want me
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: to ask you A Bonds rose? Question you don't feel
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: like gone?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: There?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: No?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Fine so moral who in the chat said he just
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: wants to know what's the logic with?
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Bonds?
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Rose, No, well my thing, Is i've said it over
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and over. Again here's here's my, logic AND i said it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yesterday if you get caught for doing steroids after they started,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: TESTING i have no idea what guys were doing before,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that BUT i know if you got pop for doing,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: steroids then you should not be in the whole. Thing
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: that's my stance as a former. PLAYER i played in
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the steroid, ERA i played after the steroid. ERA i
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: mixed them. BOTH i know guys that did. THEM i
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: know guys that were doing them. After, okay some got,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: caught some. Didn't, right but if you got pop you
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: In that's.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: It and my thing With pete Why pete is it
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: because he broke the golden. Rule you don't, gamble that's.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It that's.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: It and and by the, way don't tell me if
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you want to use the bonds can't be in because
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of what he. Did pete wasn't clean, either he said.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: IT i mean he was popping, amphetamines, RIGHT i mean
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: it pretty much everybody in that whole era.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Knew, that but so many guys. Were for some, People but.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: That's that's my.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Thing IF i don't know that you got, that you
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: were doing it unless you got that positive.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Test this is just.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Me and AGAIN i don't people say whatever they, want
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but unless if you got, popped you're out for, Me i'm,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: sorry because you willingly then were breaking the, rules just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Like Pete rose when he gambled on. Baseball he was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: willingly breaking the rules of. Baseball before they did, testing
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: there was no rule of baseball saying you couldn't do.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It it was against the, law, yes but in baseball
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't against the rules of. Baseball gambling was against
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the rules of, baseball right, Right and then once you
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: start testing first.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Stuff that's against the rules of. Baseball, yeah that's WHERE
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: i drag the. Line Maybe i'm. Wrong that's, fine it's my.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Opinion that's WHERE i, stand And i'll die on that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Sort but that's, good by the. Way that's a little more.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Positive some great birthdays.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Today what do you Got John, Smoltz George, Brett Justin,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Morno Josh, Beckett.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: We Get smaltz back, on it's been a, minute.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And Ask Steve woodard who went on on a recruiting
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: visits with me back in high.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: School. Hinch Also hinch's.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Birthdayday But Steve woodard THREW bp to me WHEN i
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: won The hall Of fame home run.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Derby he threw THE bp to.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Me pretty solid, Legend.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Hinch, yeah we don't know his first, name But hinch.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: ALSO i got one for.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: You So Dalton rushing has been known as one of
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: the best catching prospects in baseball for a, while and
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: The dodgers are kind of just, like you don't have
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of. Room he's not gonna be a started right,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: now obviously with Will smith there signed for, life but
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: he has nothing left to, prove so they call him,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: up and you, Know Alding gonzalez said he'll get some
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: time behind the, plate occasionally be called upon to pinch,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: hit but mostly one of the game's brightest prospects will.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Sit and his quote, Was i'm the young. Guy that's my.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Job don't understand. It what don't you understand WHY i
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: call him? Up he's not gonna, play Right why call him?
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Up he's gonna get a start once or twice a.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Week, yeah but, no he's getting he was getting five
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: or six a week and.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Triple a you.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Guys, okay, guys when are you calling him?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Up you're trading.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Him so every catcher that's in the system for The
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: dodgers needs to just keep getting traded.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Pretty much when you sign your catcher to a ten year. Deal, okay, yeah, right.
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: CRATS i mean unless, now like he's, not he would
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: have to absolutely annihilate The baseball to take Over Will
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: smith's job for like a. Year and if you have
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: him taking Over Austin barnes', job you are totally demeaning
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: the value of who this guy. IS a TWENTY i
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: think he had twenty six homers last year in the
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: bushes like this dude clearly.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Rakes what else do you Want Dalton rushing to? Do
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: and if you're, him what do you want to?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Do you want to get traded to a place you
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: can go, play.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Okay but there's no trades In, may.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Okay so you play it out Till june And. July
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: when The dodgers need, something they trade. Him he's the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: number one piece.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Of truth twenty four years. Old can he be on
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the big big League.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Clayah but you don't want. To if he's as good
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: as everyone, says he's gonna get. Stunted so he backs
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Up Will smith for the next five. Years like he
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: gets to play once a, week twice a.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Weekly people get, hurt people hit il on.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: That, okay but that's.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Great but you know what he would have to do
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to Supplant Will smith as the starting every every person's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: dream is to be a, WELL i can't say every
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: persons it is to play in the big leagues if
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you're a baseball, player, okay but then your next, thing
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: AND i Think krautz would stick with me, here is
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: to get to play all the, time because that means
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you're doing good and that's how you get. Paid by
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: not getting to play and being a backup, player you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: never get the, opportunities kind of like What Trevor may
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: was saying about the bullpen. Guys they never get paid
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: because they aren't valued.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Enough.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Right the only way you get paid in baseball is
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you put up numbers and you play a.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Lot doesn't they to a league.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Minimum over the minor league. Salary he's twenty. Four you
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: think he wants to be in the minor leagues right?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Now like you guys, said he.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Might he might get traded at some, Point but also
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: The dodgers are obsessed with depth.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: In the marathon. Game maybe he gets more pet than we.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Think The dodgers want to have that kind of depth
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: because they're trying to make it to The World. Series god,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: forbid there's an injury with Will. Smith they would have
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: really really.
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• 45:56
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