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Jaguars Happy Hour | Jaguars Roster Vetting, Draft Priorities · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March nineteenth.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now a guy who knows when Alabama is in
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  Speaker 1: the final four, it's probably time to shut off the
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  Speaker 1: PlayStation jafe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. We've got a busy hour ahead,
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  Speaker 1: or do we It's not a lot going on. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do our best the next hour. In terms of Jaguars news,
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  Speaker 1: of course, Jeff Logoman returns that, certainly news. He's in
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  Speaker 1: studio with us today. Jaguars moves. Oh, there was one
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  Speaker 1: after free agency, a handful right before free agency started.
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  Speaker 1: But what could be next? We'll dig into that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League as well. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into some Jaguars defensive needs now that they've lost a
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  Speaker 1: few players in free agency.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll talk to.
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  Speaker 1: My Microsoft co pilot and ask how to open the
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  Speaker 1: pod bay doors once again. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, afternoon, Happy March Madness. I don't know legally
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  Speaker 1: I can say March madness. It's trademark.
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  Speaker 2: So is Alabama inn? Sure, yes they are. They are.
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  Speaker 1: One of their players is in jail. But other than that, yeah, wow, Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like recently, yeah, like three days ago. No kid, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like their second leading score. High character guy. Obviously, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know. I've never met him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, yeah I was. I walked into the building
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  Speaker 1: here today.
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  Speaker 2: The mech and TV's are all all on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: March Madness. Oh you know it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, multiple TVs, multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Games, cool stuff. We actually watched high Point beat.
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin pretty good. I mean, you talk about a major upset.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's funny because I haven't watched basketball all year,
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  Speaker 1: either of but today and tomorrow, I ty Point, did
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  Speaker 1: you really that was in your bracket? I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know high Point is in I don't even have a bracket,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm totally joking there. Yeah, but it's that time
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  Speaker 1: of year, and it's on the office, and let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot going on around now. On
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  Speaker 1: the football side. They're busy. They're doing pre draft stuff
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  Speaker 1: and always evaluating and vett vetting, jap everything.
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  Speaker 2: This is vetting.
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  Speaker 1: That's not Joe Fortunado vetting. Okay, that is a background
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  Speaker 1: researching vetting. Okay, Joe Fortunado is core vetting. A little
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  Speaker 1: different there. Yeah, yeah, you know, and and look, uh, oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, isn't that kind of nice to see happened?
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  Speaker 2: Vetting right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's important, you know, I mean, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you're not going to you know, have guys in
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  Speaker 1: to talk to them or whatever. You've got to go
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  Speaker 1: through the process of knowing who these guys are. Well, look,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna I mean, you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to find out anything about a guy's background by talking
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  Speaker 1: with him for fifteen to twenty dollars. No, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: incredibly difficult to do. I mean, at that time is
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  Speaker 1: better well spent by talking those that are around a
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  Speaker 1: player and that are close to a player so that
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  Speaker 1: you can make informed, proper decisions, which oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: hasn't always happened around here. You go back to and
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  Speaker 1: think about a corner.
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  Speaker 2: That the Jaguars drafted.
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  Speaker 1: Who is even in the league anymore? Anderson j Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean when he got drafted, it was like.
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  Speaker 2: Is he happy? It was kind of you know, here
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  Speaker 2: and here's the cret.
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  Speaker 1: Falcons, now okay, and uh he was also with the Panthers, Texans, Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: And other teams.
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  Speaker 1: And when he got drafted, I'll never forget the expression
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  Speaker 1: on his face.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, it reminded me of George Welsh.
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  Speaker 1: George Welsh, the head coach of the University of Virginia, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: great fame coach of the Navy, the Naval Academy, came
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  Speaker 1: to UVA, established a winning tradition. Okay, I was there
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  Speaker 1: and he was one of those guys. When he got mad,
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  Speaker 1: it was looked like a smile. So when I saw
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  Speaker 1: CJ's reaction after he got drafted, I said.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe he's like George.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, maybe that's you know, that's a look
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  Speaker 1: of happiness for him. Remember, yeah, he was on the
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  Speaker 1: couch and his family was around him, and it just
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  Speaker 1: you could tell right away, Oh, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: happy he is.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, and maybe a little bit of vetting
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  Speaker 1: there would have realized that that's not the guy for Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: I could bring up multiple instances, but I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to drum up any muck from the past.
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  Speaker 2: We're now, We're coming on a thirteen win season, Lives.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is that, you know, it's isn't it
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  Speaker 1: refreshing to have a regime that's in place that that
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  Speaker 1: has a belief system that believes and vetting and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: believe a fifteen minute cell job. Okay, let's go look
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  Speaker 1: at the Let's look at the Atlanta Falcons from last year. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the defensive end that's probably gonna end up in jail
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  Speaker 1: from Tennessee, what's his name got in legal trouble. He
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  Speaker 1: was got felony charges against him for some stuff against
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  Speaker 1: his girlfriend who is a WNBA player and love James Pierce.
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  Speaker 1: James Pierce. So the Falcons draft an outstanding linebacker on
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  Speaker 1: round one. They trade back up in around one to
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  Speaker 1: get James Pierce. If they had spent their fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 1: vetting James Pierce, they more than likely would have discovered
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  Speaker 1: instead of doing an interview with them, they would.
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  Speaker 2: Have discovered that there may be a history there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, all right, let's get into that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Because in order to properly vet candidates or players or
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  Speaker 1: prospects or whatever it is, you got to have a
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  Speaker 1: system in place. You have to have strong scouts on
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  Speaker 1: the ground that have contacts at all these places. Correct
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  Speaker 1: they can talk to all these corrects and trust that
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  Speaker 1: they're telling you the right thing too. And if you
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  Speaker 1: have scouts else that don't have those relationships, get them
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  Speaker 1: out and find some that can develop that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because look, if you can't be a trusted ear so
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  Speaker 1: to speak, in the scouting business, then you're not pulling
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  Speaker 1: your weight. You're not doing your job. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: have to develop and build relationships at the college level
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  Speaker 1: so that when you go into a program or programs
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  Speaker 1: that you get the straight skinny. You don't get a
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  Speaker 1: sell job. Hey, look, we want our player, our alum
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  Speaker 1: to get drafted high because it helps us build the program.
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  Speaker 1: You want the straight scoop. And that's where the area
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  Speaker 1: of scouts are so key. I mean they live in
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  Speaker 1: different parts of the country and they'll have the Pacific
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  Speaker 1: Northwest person we know well will have three states worth
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  Speaker 1: of colleges up there and should have access or an
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  Speaker 1: ability to get information, especially from the big ones. And
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why, okay that I think
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  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are flawed in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 1: Get sidetrack just for a minute here, because we're taking
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  Speaker 1: shots at other teams. Well I'm not taking shots that
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  Speaker 1: necessarily teams, but just as an example of the Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: Bengals have a very small scouting staff and they rely
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  Speaker 1: also on their coaching staff to do some of that work.
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  Speaker 1: Coaches don't have the time to do the vetting, build
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  Speaker 1: a relationship. They got a coach and the scouting staff
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  Speaker 1: for the Bengals has historically been the smallest in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League. And that's not necessarily a criticism. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're investing millions and millions of dollars, Okay, maybe
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  Speaker 1: having a salaried scout maybe three or four extra ones
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  Speaker 1: on the payroll for seventy eighty ninety hundred thousand, whatever's
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  Speaker 1: going to cost you can save you millions down the
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  Speaker 1: road and can pay you back tenfold if you have
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  Speaker 1: the quality job being done by the scout to develop
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  Speaker 1: the relationship, to find the information out about potential prospects
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  Speaker 1: so that you can culture build and not make mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to cost you money down the line. If
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  Speaker 1: James Pearce never plays another snap for the Atlanta Falcons,
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  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons are out millions millions of dollars that
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  Speaker 1: are guaranteed to James Pierce that they cannot try to
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  Speaker 1: recoup according to the contract that he assigned. For example,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the Jaguars site right now. Jaguars have a
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  Speaker 1: director of College Scouting and then nine people listed as
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  Speaker 1: college scouts, and they're all over the country, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: different regions. It's just how that works. And then of
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  Speaker 1: course there's pro personnel and pro scouts different animal but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're spread out everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: You want to have people.
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  Speaker 1: The lad of Scouts have been on different staffs around
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  Speaker 1: here for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like these guys are new.
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  Speaker 1: And you want to have somebody that can walk into
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  Speaker 1: a crowded room and then give them about an hour,
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  Speaker 1: and then after an hour they could tell you what
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  Speaker 1: the name of the people were in there, and then
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  Speaker 1: also a little bit of something about everybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's the type of person that you'd like to have
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  Speaker 1: as a scout, just so that you can have somebody
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  Speaker 1: that develops those relationships to get the information that you
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  Speaker 1: need because a lot of the information is not available
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  Speaker 1: in the film so to speak. Yeah, right, right, it's
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  Speaker 1: about the stuff that's away from the film, right. The
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  Speaker 1: tape's always going to for the most part, tap doesn't lie.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they all lead on anyway. In terms of
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  Speaker 1: the Kennedy play or not. That's all they're going to
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  Speaker 1: look at is take correct, is everything else in order.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of the scouting process. That's why that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the work that's going on right now that
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  Speaker 1: people think, oh well, it's the dead zone and the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League free agencies kind of passed and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's kind of moving out of snail's pace and
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  Speaker 1: until it gets to the college Draft, it's dead, Zoe.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's not dead, zo.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all the work is being done behind closed
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  Speaker 1: doors to make sure that when you make those selections
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  Speaker 1: in April, they're going to be the best possible selections
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  Speaker 1: for this organization that they can be. It is Pro
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  Speaker 1: day season as well. I have a feeling though there's
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  Speaker 1: not as much of it. Like they didn't emphasize the
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  Speaker 1: on field workouts at the combine. I think they went
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  Speaker 1: and probably watched them. There's some scouts there maybe, but like,
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  Speaker 1: give me the numbers. It's fine, you can give me, give.
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  Speaker 2: Me the numbers and you know what, JP, I can
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  Speaker 2: watch it.
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  Speaker 1: It's all it's all video everything, every everything that they do,
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  Speaker 1: even even when they sit there and excuse me on
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  Speaker 1: the camera here from it, they stand up in front
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  Speaker 1: of the camera underwear.
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  Speaker 2: Yes they are. They're wearing underwear.
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  Speaker 1: Even they even film that, Yes they do.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of weird. It's a little strange.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of weird. It's very weird, just saying I
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  Speaker 1: don't do that at combine. The weigh ends anymore and
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  Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, they do the way to do the
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  Speaker 1: height the waight, and then they they seriously they they videotape.
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  Speaker 1: They have the player kids, you not because then they
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  Speaker 1: did this back when I did it, and it's still
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  Speaker 1: being done today.
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  Speaker 2: So the player goes, they do the height, they do
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  Speaker 2: the weight, and he's wearing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, kind of like tights, right, like slider shorts
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  Speaker 1: kind of deal, right, exactly right, okay, And they get
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  Speaker 1: walk out in front of the camera. Okay, and that's all.
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  Speaker 1: They have a on of the shorts and they stand
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  Speaker 1: in front of the camera and they turn around okay
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  Speaker 1: to where their back is to the camera, and then
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  Speaker 1: they turn to the side and then they do this
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  Speaker 1: hands out in front and they and they do a
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  Speaker 1: squad okay, and it's like in I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they're exactly trying to understand or learn from the squad.
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  Speaker 2: All I know is that.
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  Speaker 1: You know at the Senior Bowl they did that as well, right,
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  Speaker 1: So they've done it at the Senior Bowl, some of
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  Speaker 1: these guys, and they do it again at the Combine.
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  Speaker 1: And it's usually with like or it has been in
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  Speaker 1: the past. I didn't haven't seen it the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of years. It's usually with a grandstand of like five
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  Speaker 1: hundred seats around it, so all these personnel people can
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  Speaker 1: sit there and they're sitting there and they're looking at
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  Speaker 1: this guy and he walks out and they go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a player. And usually there's a look at that body.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell just by that body that that's a player.
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  Speaker 1: And oh did you see that squad? Wow, the lack
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  Speaker 1: of curvature in the back, I mean that was outstanding.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, are they really saying that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, But the usually there's a in the past,
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  Speaker 1: at least when there was the stands around it, there
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  Speaker 1: was a line of scouting assistants sprinting down the hallway
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  Speaker 1: of the convention center to save seats for their executives,
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  Speaker 1: like they had to go save there's a six am
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  Speaker 1: before these way in crazy yeah, crazy, But I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: the combine, the whole most or at least the most
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  Speaker 1: important part of the combine that happens or has happened,
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  Speaker 1: is gaining the medical information. Now the pro day's coming,
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  Speaker 1: So all right, some of some of the numbers you
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  Speaker 1: get at protas can be a little bit favored in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the well they typically are because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the the tracks that they've run the forty times
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  Speaker 1: is probably gonna be a little bit faster than running
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  Speaker 1: on the astro turf of uh Lucas Oil Stadium. I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's what it's called. I called to make sure
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  Speaker 1: I got that right correct. Uh So you're probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: get a little bit faster track. The time is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a little different, but you know, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is that they're.
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  Speaker 2: Going to average the times out.
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  Speaker 1: But now if if a guy, let's say, for example,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a guy that goes to the combine and
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  Speaker 1: he craps the bed for lack of a better term, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and he was expected to run a four to four
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  Speaker 1: and he runs a four to six eight, okay, And
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  Speaker 1: then on his pro day he runs a four four five,
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  Speaker 1: which one you're gonna believe. I mean, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a tendency to go back to the four four five,
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  Speaker 1: and because he was expected he's been time before in
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  Speaker 1: the four to full range. And then you could just say, well,
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  Speaker 1: you had a bad day to combine, okay, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I mean you take everything with a grain of salt,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I think having a pro day to
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  Speaker 1: go along with the combine, you can, you can. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's good. I mean because some guys, you know, look,
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe they woke up. Let'll give you a
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  Speaker 1: perfect example. You know, when I was coming out wake
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  Speaker 1: up or the night before the game, getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: play in the Blue Gray All Star Game, and I
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  Speaker 1: wake up and I'm thrown up all night, wake up
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  Speaker 1: next day, feel like, you know, crap. Play a football
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  Speaker 1: game played, okay, but I played the game essentially with
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  Speaker 1: you know, having not gotten any sleep at all.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean things like that can happen to guys
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the testing part of it. So
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  Speaker 1: having a pro day on top of the combine, I
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  Speaker 1: think can be a good thing, which is why I
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  Speaker 1: also like James Gladstone's approach and the scouting staff's approach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you can run a four to four, but can
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  Speaker 1: you do it with pads on and you're chasing a
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  Speaker 1: guy down to the sideline and making a tackle with it,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna get juked out of your shit. Can you
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  Speaker 1: play football?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Big difference, big difference, And that's why the film is
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  Speaker 1: the ultimate thing. But then you also want to be
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  Speaker 1: able to find out more about the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the guy and the character part of the
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  Speaker 1: guy because as you all, as we heard games Gladstone
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  Speaker 1: say many times, you want to have somebody that is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to elevate the room, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: if you can elevate the room, great, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: great teammates are, the ones that make those around them better.
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  Speaker 1: And if you can find those guys, that's what you
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  Speaker 1: gotta have.
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  Speaker 2: Let's come back.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars have made one move in free agency, big one.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: And he's a good player now, okay, yeah, he's a
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  Speaker 1: good player, you think so, yep, we'll get into some
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  Speaker 1: reasons why when we come back. The new Jaguars running
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  Speaker 1: back Chris Rodriguez Junior coming in from Washington. We're on
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  Speaker 1: ten ten xl AM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube
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  Speaker 1: off and running on Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: As far as to like why Jacksonville, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's an opportunity. I feel like it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the best opportunity for me.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I know Liam and he knows me, and
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  Speaker 2: I know the type of standard he expects, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like we can get that done.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez, junior Jaguars running back, signed in free agency
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  Speaker 1: last week.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Where's Rodriguez from?
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  Speaker 1: And I know he went to go to Kentucky, Kentucky, right,
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  Speaker 1: but where where is his hometown at? Uh? Kind of curious,
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  Speaker 1: But but looking at him, just while you're looking at that,
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  Speaker 1: the if you look at him, he has he does
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  Speaker 1: not have a lot of mileage on him, and so
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's very positive. The one thing about
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: him is he's a very hard runner, and a lot
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: of times when you have a hard runner. They have
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: a tendency to fumble, and I think he's only had
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: like one fumble and in his career, which is a
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: real strong suit.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Where's he from.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: He's from McDonough, Georgia.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: So hey, look, I mean he's coming kind of back.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Clack smoking in the Bandit was filmed there, Come on,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I believe it was.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Parts of it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting side note, but yeah, yeah, way before his time,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: right way before his time. But and if you look,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to say that he's Travis Etn,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but you're looking at thirteen million a year that Etn
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: got to go to the Saints and five million I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: think in range for Chris Rodriguez Junior, who does have
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the familiarity with Liam Cohen having spent some time at Kentucky.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Twenty one was an incredible year for him at Kentucky
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: with Liam as the oc SO. And I like the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: way the numbers have progressed since his time in Washington.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: He's gotten better every year and he's gotten his past
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: year five hundred yards rushing. He's got a career average
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of you know, greater than four and a half. I mean,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's all good stuff. And I like the ball
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: security never was of a weapon in the passing game.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And that's something that I think would be a great
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: question for Liam at some point because is that a
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: is that just the way because some offenses are not
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: designed to get the ball to the backs a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: some are and so is that a product of the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: system or is that a product of the skill set
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: because he's not a great receiver. So that's something that
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: we'll find out, I think as we once we get
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: another spring practices and all that. Yeah, I mean, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: they've got obviously they've got two other running backs on
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the roster that had significant impact last year in Teuton
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and then Lea Quinn Allen and the guys that they
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: feel very confident in moving ahead as well. And I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: would not be a bit surprised if if you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: with all the draft picks that you have, that you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: also drafted another running back. I mean, look, that's if
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you if you look at the history of the Rams,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and they've never been shy about draft running backs, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think you have to. I mean, it's a it's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a position that you want to find the hot hand.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: That's what they did in Tampa as well. They weren't
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: afraid to draft running backs in Tampa either. You'd rather
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: draft them than sign them in free agency to big numbers. Yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I mean what I mean in thirteen million? I mean, look,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the reality is thirteen million a year for running back.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm happy for Travis etn trust me, happy in
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: more ways than one. The second way that I'll get
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to and here in a minute, I'm happy because I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: love the guy. I think he's a great guy, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he runs hard, and it's a chance for him to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: get closer to home to play for the Saints. Good
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: for him. Got a good contract and they're going to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: need it there in New Orleans because they're going to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: need a dependable veteran running back to help a young quarterback.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Grow and that's what they need. So it's a great fit.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And on top of that, what you're paying Roy Reegez
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: is five I mean, so you're talking pretty big difference.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I mean that's eight million dollars, okay, eight plus that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you could put into extending maybe Parker Washington, Brenton Strange
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: or Trayvon Walker, or signing some guys after the part
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: where the compensatory picks become a factor. After that point,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: because i'd eat with EATN. What are you going to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: get for compensatory pick, like a third or fourth?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Right? I think probably a fourth. Yeah, you know, so
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that's good.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You're going to get a compensatory pick for him, another
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: one from probably Devin Lloyd. You might get one from
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: some other guys that you lost as well, and those
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: things matters.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I thought.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: James Gladstone did a great job explaining recently about about
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the importance of having these compensatory picks, and he brought
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: up the example last year about hey, look, you're in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the middle of the season.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: He need a wide receiver that can catch the ball.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And you go out and you trade for Jacoby Myers,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you got a guy
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that you extended that's going to be in the fold
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: for the long term, and it costs you a couple
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: picks which could have been compensitory picks. And you brought
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: up a great point earlier, compensatory picks used to not
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: be tradeable.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah you could not.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And now obviously this all started when free agency started
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: with ninety four. That was the first year that teams
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: were rewarded compensatory picks. And then you were not able
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to trade them until twenty seventeen. So since then the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: value has gone up a little bit because you can
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: now use them as for what the JAG's been doing. Right, Yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and so, and by the way, to kind of that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: trading of compensatory picks and everything on a long while
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: we're on that topic real quick, there's talk about because
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: right now you can't trade a pick further than three
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: years out, they're talking about loosening the reins on that
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit to go to go to five years.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Where the Browns are putting in that rule request. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: don't think that well. And it's been backed by another
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: executive in the league, which you know, I think it
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: would have some support. And I would be very scared
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of that because now you would essentially have an executive
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: running your team that can screw up your team for
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: more than just three years. I don't know if I'd
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: want to have that. But going back to the compensatory
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: pick thing, I think that a lot of people don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: realize this, but I thought that this was a masterclass
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: by James Gladstone this past year when it came to
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the Tyson Campbell trade for Greg Newsom.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And here's why.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Would you say that it was maybe a draw about
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the level of play Tyson Greg Newsom right ballpark.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Tyson started out hot.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it had a small sample size of Greg Newsom,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: but right, but I mean level production was about the same. Yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean you could make the argument at the beginning
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Tyson was was on fire early on for the for
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and then Greg kind of started slow,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and everybody's like, wow, I don't know about that trade.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: The I think the real importance of that trade was
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: twofold one. You traded a player for a player, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you you traded away a high salary guy in Tyson Campbell,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: brought in a guy that wasn't as high and Greg
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Newsom was on an expiring contract. Tyson Campbell was not.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So you traded a player for a player, so you
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: got less pay out for Tyson Campbell because Greg was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: cheaper and Greg's contract was expiring. Greg signed with the Giants.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I believe it is you may end up getting a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: compensatory pick for Greg Newsom signing with the Giants. I mean, so,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's a very small example of how
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I think that James Gladstone gets it and it probably
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: goes over the head of a lot of fans. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be critical of any fans in
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: their understanding of anything, but it does.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes these.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Things are are hard to recognize and hard to preciate.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: But I mean that I thought was it was a masterclass.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Now looking back at it, going through the history of
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the first year of that nineteen ninety four draft, first
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: year of compensatory picks, and here's some of the names
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that were compensatory picks that year. There was a first rounder,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Derek Alexander, wide receiver out of Michigan for the Browns.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: In the second round, there were a number of compensatory
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: about five of them Falcons, birda manual wide receiver, a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: rice Larry Allen, the guard for the Cowboys, the Hall
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of Famer.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way I played against him, he's pretty good. Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: That was forty sixth overall second bench press like six
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: hundred pounds set by the way side note you've seen
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, there's the drive that the Cowboys had. I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: forget a year, but it's the Larry Allen drive where
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he's pancakes a guy he pulls and and John Madden's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on the game and he just laughs at the touchdown
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: because he pulls and takes a guy out of the screen.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that there was that's that drive.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of guys that when they pulled
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that that you didn't really kind of do a double take.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But when Larry Allen pulled and he was coming your way,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, it was one of the I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: think they were play of the Colts maybe, but the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: guy lined up against him, and he was playing left
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: guard that day. The tackle lined up against him at
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: one point just like went straight on the ground and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm not getting him on my pads, I'm
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not letting Larry Allen get underneath he was. He was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: subbed by the way, just real quick on. Larry Allen
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: one of the strongest human beings.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: To ever play guard ever.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And when he played tackle, now he had to be
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: in space a little bit, and he did play a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: little bit of tackle, but that was not where he belonged.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I played against him when he was at tackle, and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: he was he didn't put the fear of God in me,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: But when he was at guard, the fear of God
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was in a lot of people, and he could also
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: run too, by the way. He chased down guys down
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the field on turnovers and that kind of thing. So
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: he was he was like the most well built guard
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: in the NFL history. I mean, if God was ever
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: going to design a guard, that was Larry, John Hannah
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and Larry Allen, no doubt. Thomas Ranolf Corner for the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Giants was another compic that year, and our friend Bucky
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Brooks comppicked Tabos in the in the second round of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: ninety four. Toby Wright another safety for the round second
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: round compensatory pin.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Now, I think these early couple years they were awarded
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in different ways than they are now. Like there's a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: second round compenstory pick. Nowadays it's it's changed. I think
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: in like ninety six, I think it changed a little bit.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But just there's the history of that. Let's come back.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: We've got to figure out Jaguars defense LOKs cause there's
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: been some changes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: There will be some change.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: So lost Devin Lloyd three year, fifteen million dollars per
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: year contract to go to the Carolina Panther. Yeah, he's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: not here anymore, by the way, so what are they
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: gonna do. We'll figure it out. Maybe when we come
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: back on ten Toxlam, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with Jeff Logman. Glad you're with us on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: tenen Xlam, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. March nineteenth,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: closing in on the NFL annual meeting in a couple
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: of weeks. That's the owners meetings and then April's here
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and it is pro DA season right now. But you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Jaguars only made one signing and free agency true free agency.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in the coming weeks if they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: added any more to that. But logs Our attention turns
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars defense because this is where the Jaguars
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: have lost some pieces and they could have some changes
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: coming up in this twenty twenty six season. Of course,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd is the most notable. Andrew Wingard's gone, Greg Newsome,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the corner has gone. They have resigned Dennis Gardak, who
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: had some key contributions on defense. I like that They've
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys coming back. There's some gentlemen
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: on this team. Getting a little bit older, now too, right.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I mean Jordan Lewis coming off an injury, he's.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: What, yeah, but he's fine.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He's he's still got many years, many miles left on him.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Same for Fourier, Right, He's going into year nine in
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the league. He still plays like a young man. His durability,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he still has been impeccable. And one of the guys
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that I'm excited to see come back is Buster Brown. Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Montaria eleven million a year man, which kind of goes
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar, but he's been very consistent,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: very dependable, and when you have guys that are consistent
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and dependable, then I think you can put him in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: positions of success. And that's one of those guys that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you know, he's earned his way. I mean, you got
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to remember, now, he started out as a seventh round
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: pick and just kind of kept his mouth shut and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: went to work. And even when they had different regime changes,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: he you know, would fall out of favor a little bit,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: but then he would gain favor because he just was
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the same guy all the time. And that's what I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: appreciate about him. And he is a physical, willing tackler,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: which sometimes is hard to find at that position. Gladstone
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: was in with us last week and we asked him
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: about you know what stood out the most, and he said,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: go look at his head shots the last four years
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and see how physically he has changed, Like his neck.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Is bigger, he's been in the weight room.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: He's really dedicated himself to becoming a stronger player. Well,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I think I'll pass up on looking at the headshots
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: okay over the last couple of years. But but the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: thing I appreciate about him about Monteric Buster, and remember
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: he likes to be called Buster, is that whatever he
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: wants if he plays like he did last exactly and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: he likes he likes to be called Buster. I asked him,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I said, what do you what would you prefer to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: be called Buster Monterak? He said Buster. I said, okay,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: well then you're Buster. And Buster's done a great job
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I think at at the point of attack, which has
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: really impressed me, and I think it's one of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: reasons why they feel really good about him is because
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: of the way that he plays the game in physical
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: fashion and he's I think this this system really fits him,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good fit.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a very very good zone player, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he can play man as well, so.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: He's got some flexibility to him.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna get a solution right now from
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Jeff Flagman on March nineteenth. What are you doing to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: replace Devin Lloyd drafting a guy not Ventro Miller? Well, look,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I mean Jack McLeod who was injured all last year. Look,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a chance that those guys could
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: be that guy. But you know, if I'm James Gladstone,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not counting on it. I'm going to go draft
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: another guy. I want to draft a guy that can
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: run and cover. And that's just I mean, that's the league.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It's a passing league. And that was I mean, I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: hate to say this, but I mean as good as
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd was, that was his weakness at times was coverage.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Reasons why you saw him going forward in games a
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: lot of times, because that was more of his strength.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And so by playing to his strength, you also covered
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: one of his weaknesses, which was playing in space. Even
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: though look, people say, well, how about the ninety nine
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown at Monday Night Football.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You're right, you know, he executed it. Perfectly.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: But you know, he stepped two yards back and made
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the play. It wasn't twenty yards down the field, down
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: in and down out. That's not his strength, no, okay,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: his strength is being physical at the point and being
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: an attacker of the line of scrimmage, and Blitzer just
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fast reads.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And giving credit on that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, they scouted that play, they looked at it,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: they knew the idea was going to come, and he
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: reacted well, great, great execution. And I would also say
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that if you listen to Devin Lloyd talk about that play,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you also come away with it going.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Ooh, it's really good coaching too, a really good scheme. Yes, yes,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: all right, so credit to go around there.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: But look, wish nothing but the best for Devin Loyd
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: because again he's in the same mold of ETNA. I mean,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: these two great guys, great guys. You know that JP
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: talked to him a million times, right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And he talked to these guys and you know, just culture.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, that side note you mentioned, you know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: did you see his press conference with the Saints the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: other day?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I heard a few bits and pieces.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So his last name apparently is pronounced h n h
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: A ten h like A H T E n A
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: y h A n hn okay. And he never told
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: anybody that they kept getting wrong, like the first year
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: as a freshman at Clemson and he was like, you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: know what, just call it like it looks E T
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: N A. Never corrected anybody, okay until the press conference
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the other.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Day, never to was here.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: All the conversations we had always you know, we just
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: went with ETN That's just always what it was. You know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: there's that Uh, it's the same kind of thing I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: think with Danny strigo trig al strigo.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It's strigo.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It's trigo, asking isn't but it's strigo. Yeah, but there
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: are those in the building that call him strigg out.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: That's not right.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't care what so like, as
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: another four or five years from now he signs to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: go somewhere else, he's gonna go somewhere and say, you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: they've been calling me strag out forever in Jacksonville, but
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: it's actually strigo anyway. Patrick o'cerrey is another one mcarry's.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: How it's supposed to be said, how mcarrey as opposed
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to McCarry is wrong.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: It's not a car No, it's a car I care Mcarrey.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, names fun with names. I care about how his
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: name is pronounced.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: It's McCarry.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So all right, you're gonna draft a weak sidelinebacker to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: replace Devin White and then.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know where though, I don't know which. Wrong.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: We haven't got into that yet.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: It's too We've got a lot of time.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You might pick one in the first do you think so? Huh?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: With the non existing pick, what about defensive tackle?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Need one?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do there? They've got obviously players
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: back Armstead, Hamilton's second round pick, Mason Smith, he hasn't
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: done much. Second, you're gonna go high with it? You might, Yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you might go high with that very well. Could I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: think second or third round? I mean, and I don't know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm completely wrong, but it has to fit
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: at the spot. You got to have quote unquote value.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I left out Matt Dickerson too. He had some flash,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: solid physical, tough, hard guy to move. But the reality is,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got an aging Eric Armstead and you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of pass rush besides him on
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the inside. You gotta find something. And if you're going
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to find it. You're gonna have to find it early
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, and you don't have a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: first round pick. That's why I said second round pick.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And if if the value is there, then I think
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you got to you got to take it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And if not in.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: The second then I think definitely the third. I mean
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: that's a it's a premium position.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: But you can find him. I mean, guys can that's
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: hard to find? JP. I you one example. I'll give
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you one example. It's close that you'll know this. You're
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: going to give me an example of what.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Of a later round defensive tackle who turned out to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: be an impact player.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you one. It could beat you.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Go first, Malik Jackson, fifth round draft pick, obviously kept improving,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: got better, had the big contract free agent. Here you go, right,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'll give you another one. John Randall. Yeah, I would
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: say he's pretty good too. Those are few and far between.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Is not impossible, few and far between. A chance you
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: know it's somebody, Okay, the higher in theory, it should
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be a ready made player. The higher guys that throw
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the ball right, guys that catch the ball, guys that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: protect the guy that throws the ball, the guys that
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: attack the guy that throws the ball and the guy
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: that stops the guys from catching the ball. Those are
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the premium position. That's the order of the guys that
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: get after the guy that throws the ball. Okay, pass
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: rushers amium position. Edge.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Whether it's edge or whether it's interior, that's a premium position.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: And it gets drafted like crazy, as it should, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: people take gambles.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Take a look at the Falcons with James Pearce. Okay,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want the jagg I'm not saying the Jaguars
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: should do that, Okay, to get an interior pass rusher.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: That's not in their belief system anymore. Okay, JP, just
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: just just just throw that out that that thought doesn't
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: exist anymore with this organization.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: They're not going to do that. Not gamble.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: They're not going to gamble with character, not not in
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: round two, not in round three, maybe round seven, you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and then that way, if it doesn't work out, it's
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: no loss, cut day, bye see you lucky to make
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the team anyway.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: You know. Don't let the door hit you in the.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: We're in I was gonna say, what are you gonna say?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: You know, but I mean, it's I believe that that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: will be a and we're doing a radio show, I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: believe on Friday of the draft issue.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: So that's what I heard the other day.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know how official that is or how public
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that is yet until right.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Now I'm hearings. That's what I'm hearing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Sources say there could be a Friday night trash show
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: because the Jags are not They're twiddling their thumbs on
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Thursday right now, not doing anything. Well, I mean, they
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: could move up, but I mean the chances of that
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: You know what A source just informed me as well
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: that as a person who likes wings, you're gonna be
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: very happy where.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: The show is.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Is that is, mister?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't that special? Isn't that something? Dad? Gummet? I can't wait?
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: You know who's not going to be there? You me
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: right here in the studio. That's right, You'll be the studio.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be like will bring us like
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Monday night? Are you going to get us interviews with?
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I heard that's the idea probably, yeah. You know the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: one part I like about that? How many rounds do
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: they do on Friday night? Friday is the last four rounds.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: It's uh, Friday's two rounds, second and third, second and third,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: that's right, And Saturday is the last round and it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a little faster, right, And how many picks of the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Jaguars having round two and three combined, they're asking question
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: they have eleven total picks. Well, I know that there's eleven,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: but I mean in round two and round three, is
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: it only two or three?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It's three or four?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But I mean the reason why I like that is,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: first of all, you have two rounds instead of one
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to cover on the radio, and you're still talking about
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: premium players. Round one, round two, round three should be
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: starters for your team. And I like the fact that, Okay,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: now we have more picks to talk about, and with
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars not having a first round pick on that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: show on Friday, you can talk about the previous day
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and then there's always a lot of action at the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: beginning of Day two in the NFL draft, and the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Jaguars have picks. Yeah, Jaguars currently have a second round
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: pick and three third round pick. Bingo, bingo, we're talking
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: about four picks with our mister Chubby's draft broadcast.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I even have.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Time to eat wings with you better get it in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the second round because the third round is going to
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: be busy.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we can get you to like cover
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: from here and talk to Frank for five to ten minutes,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: that'll give me some wing time.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need to think. This is what
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you need is wing time.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That's what we're looking for out of you. Wing time.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the computers blogs. Are we
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: talking to AI? Well? AI is talking to us? Okay?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I mean I had to type it in, type in
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: to have AI tell you.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll find out when we return. God, how about
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: that ten to excel Amjaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. It
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back. Final moments of Jaguars
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this Thursday, March nineteenth. JP Shadwick, Jeff Floggman,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Glad you're with us with Honday Studios inside the Miller
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Electric Center. Ten tonightslam Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. It
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: is time to get Microsoft Copilot to help us with
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a current Jaguars defensive lineman and his contract situation. So
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: we asked Microsoft co pilot today, What is Trayvon Walker's
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: contract situation? Well, the answer Trayvon Walker still in his
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: rookie deal with the Jaguars running through the twenty twenty
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: six season, with unrestricted free agency scheduled for twenty seven.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: His contract is fully guaranteed. The team has already begun
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: exploring extension possibilities based on recent reporting. Go check out
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Microsoft Copilot. It'll give you all the answers. Can you
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: ask Microsoft Copiloto? You and Pete Priscoe want me to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: ask extra questions? Ask ask the Microsoft Copilot. Okay, what
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker should be paid on a future contract?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's a great question.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Usually it's Pete prisco Why did he go for it
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: on fourth down? Why are these coaches morons? That's usually
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: what Pete wants.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Me to ask. No, no, no, no, I'm serious. I'm curious.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Just the question what Trayvon Walker? What contract?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: What kind of a contract would Trayvon Walker or should
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker receive as an extension.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: We do with this live radio. This is great.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that that would be curious,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, we were just talking about
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: how AI is kind of just changing the world it's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: a little scary to be honest with you.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: All Right, here we go. All right, here's what it says.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I gave you an answer.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: This is a live answer right now. Trayvon Walker is
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the answer.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Quote.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker is trending towards a major second contract, likely
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a top of market ed rusher extension. Based on his draft, predigree, production,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and current reporting. The most credible projection suggests a deal
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the twenty five to thirty million dollars per year range
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: was seventy to ninety million guaranteed, aligning him with other
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: young ascending pass rushers.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: See.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I like that they reference Sporting News as some of them.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: So see, but there's a little little there's a little
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: conflict in what Microsoft copilot says here. Okay, they say
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: top of the market, but then they say twenty five
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to thirty Usuly the top of the market is in
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the forties. Now, yeah, as an edge rusher, but I
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: think that that's where Trayvon's value is. Is that twenty
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: five to thirty But the question mark is is that
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: his belief and that and also his representation. Do they
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: believe that that's where he needs to be or should
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: he be higher?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Than that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you want to try to get as
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: much as you can because look, it's a it's the NFL,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: which means you're not going to make that kind of money,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: not for long, so you need to get it while
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you can think about how he played last year through
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: all the injuries yet and that's he was beat up.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was beat up. So if you were
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: going to value his future contract based on last year,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be where in that you know, that higher
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: end range because his puduction dropped a little bit because
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of the different injuries that he had. But you have
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: to give him some credit for the things that he
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: played through and always being there for the team. There's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: value in that that you have a player that's willing
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to play a little nicked up and then will always
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: be there and is dependable.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And then reality is is that he was banged up.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: But he also made some plays he did with one hand.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: You know, and especially in the running game, he made
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: some big time plays. Now as a pass rusher, it
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't quite you know, where it needed to be. And
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I think the whole risk thing impacted him a lot
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: of that because his game as a pass rusher is power,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and not having the ability to use that took a
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: lot away.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: From his game.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: But love him as a player, Love how tough he is.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take the bully on my team any
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: day of the week.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: That's what his nickname. I call him the Bulley.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: And you can tell when he's not out there or
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: something's not right because the impact is not as great
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: when he's done on the field. Impacts a lot of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: different ways. It's not just going to be sack numbers, right.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know that he's had ten sax seasons
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: two years in a row before last year, but he
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: in so many other ways just pushes people around.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: And I will let me just add this, I'm excited
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: about that position group. I'd love to see him add
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to it because I don't think you can ever have
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: enough edge rushers pass rushers. And I thought they did
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a great job in the undrafted market last year with
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Danny Strigo and bj Green.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: And I love the way that Strigo is.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So dependable on first and second down and he's a
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: great effort pass rusher. He's not an elite pass rusher
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: as far as moves or anything of that nature. BJ's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: got some twitch and BJ, if you look at it
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: from an opportunity standpoint, his production from a percentage standpoint,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: might be as good as anybody, if not better than
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: anybody on the roster. I mean for the number of sacks.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And of course then if you didn't have the the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: bad penalties that were called on him on a couple
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: of sacks, his production I think far exceeded anybody as
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher on the team as far as success rate.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: You know, given the opportunities, the percentage success rate on
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: pass rush, and you know, if you needed to go
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: get a veteran defensive end, like last year, they got
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Ogba in late April and he didn't give you but
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: he's been he's played football, and he's been around it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: In theory, they thought that he could produce a little
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: bit more. Didn't work out. But you can sign guys
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: like that a little later in the offseason too. There'll
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: be some guys, yeah, exactly, But I mean, I think
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you're really excited about Strago and BJ Green.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, am I like those guys absolutely? But what
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I like to add more comedy.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: You always looked to add to that position, and UH
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and and draft Capital. Would it be a high draft pick.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I don't see that, because they need defensive tackle. I
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: think it's that's where. I think that's where.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, again, you can't force it. It's gotta, it's gotta.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: It's got to happen organically where value meets need at
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: that at that perfect time.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I mean we kind of.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: We brushed over this earlier talking about draft picks and
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: where they are. They're fifty six right now. That's their
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: first pick in the second round.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: It's a good number, by the way, really.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Good depends on the team and yeah, no, it's a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: really good time. Of course, I'm messing with you. I know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm totally messing with you. I mean, it was good
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: for one team in New York, it wasn't for the other.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I'm get that's good.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So how do the Jaguars? Can they sneak back in
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the first round? Like what would be up James's sleeve
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to make that happen. Well, and here's why I don't
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: see that happening is is what's the philosophy that James
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: comes from?
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: F M picks? Right?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Ye?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so when you when you come from that,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: that means that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you're willing to give up
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: so much to get one pick when your philosophy is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: f them picks. Right, Well, they had two different philosophies.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I mean they've done it both ways. Yeah, but overall
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: they have been f them picks. But then they have
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: stood pat with some of their first round And what
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: did they just do with McDuffie. Yeah, right, traded picks again.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: To get a premium cornerback from Kansas City. The Rams
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: did so.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't see them sneaking back into the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: first round. I really don't. I think James Gladson, if
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you were asking them, hey, look, if you could have
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a mid first round pick or two second round picks,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: what do you think he would take? Yeah, you're right,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear the answer that we need
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to ask him that question. Well, I mean it all
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: kind of depends on That's a good one, because he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: can't change on the night of the draft if something's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: not going your way ahead of you.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's an interesting question. I mean, as
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: far as do.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: You need more bodies, and if you look at the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: premium bodies, but if you look at the value chart,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the value chart would tell you that the first round
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: pick is probably worth more, you know, because you know
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: they remember the charge they assigned numbers too. But I
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: just get the feeling that if he had two first
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: round picks, he would be very happy and maybe more
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: content to have the two second round picks as opposed
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to a mid to late first round pick.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now you also get the fifth of your option
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: on well, you get the fifth of your option. But
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and it's not as sexy to have a second round pick.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: It's not as much. It's not talked about on the
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: national level, you know, and so but I just think
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a really interesting question for him,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: if if you had the choice between a late first
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: round pick or two picks in the middle of the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: second round, what would you rather have? Interesting, very interesting lines.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It's a great question.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: We'll ask him. Maybe we'll ask him.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: We'll ask him, why aren't we getting Boselli and him?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Now? Well, we had James last week.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: James he's great, Yeah, he's great, he's always great.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Why don't we having him now? I mean, I mean,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: like a week we had him, like last week, Let's
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: get him.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Everyone just go back to JAG's h Q. Yes, in
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the off season, Yes, I like that. We put we
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: have seen Baseli in week once a month. Maybe Biselli's
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: here somewhere, clearly, no idea.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen him either. He might not be here.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he's taking a vacation. Maybe so,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: But I've been in here for the whole off seat.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen him once. He's working too hard. You
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  Speaker 2: weren't here last week. I know I was on vacation.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I know where you were. I was on vacation.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: But you're back now. I am back back for a
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: little bit and we'll do this show again next.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Looking forward to that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman, I'm j P. Shadrick. All right. Thanks to
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, him, David, Choe, Brent Reaber, our entire crew,
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  Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening and watching it. Saguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour, SIS, SISH