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Chuck in the Morning 9/18 H2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, UW Offense Talk & Kraken Offseason · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Happy Football Friday to you all. It is Chuck Anders
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  Speaker 1: and Travis with you. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Football
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  Speaker 1: Fridays are brought to you by Washington's Beef Farmers and Ranchers. Beef,
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  Speaker 1: it's what's for dinner. And we welcome you into the
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  Speaker 1: second hour of our little radio extravaganza. We'll take it
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  Speaker 1: till 10 o'clock today. We got all sorts of experts
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  Speaker 1: dropping in on the show to weigh in on this
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  Speaker 1: Football Friday. including our Seahawks insider Greg Bell, who will
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  Speaker 1: join us three minutes from now for his almost daily
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  Speaker 1: segment with us. as we get ready for Seahawks Cardinals.
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  Speaker 1: But we begin the hour with your headlines, brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Frostbrood Coors Light. Cold as the Rockies, and
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly where both our hockey team and our baseball
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  Speaker 1: team are going to be over the course of the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be in the Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you meant like their offense was as
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  Speaker 2: cold as the Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no. They're actually literally going to be... in
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  Speaker 1: the Rockies this weekend. I mean, it's been a rocky
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  Speaker 1: offensive season, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: And a rocky offseason for the hockey team.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Both teams seem to be on ice at this stage.
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  Speaker 1: But no, they're literally going to be in Colorado. So
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners starting tonight, first pitch 5-15 against the Colorado Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: There are nine games left. They are six games back
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  Speaker 1: because the Astros won again yesterday. as they had a
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  Speaker 1: day off. And so pretty much just playing out the
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  Speaker 1: string at this point. Brian Wu pitching on the road tonight.
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  Speaker 1: He is trying to finish the season strong. And that
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  Speaker 1: would include, man, I'd be convinced that he's over his
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  Speaker 1: road woes if he goes into Colorado and shuts down
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  Speaker 1: the Rockies tonight. First pitch at 515. And they're pitching
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  Speaker 1: rookie Gabriel Hughes on their side of things. Meanwhile, the Sounders,
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  Speaker 1: did I say hockey?
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  Speaker 2: I meant our soccer team was in Colorado. It applies
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  Speaker 2: to all of them, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Sounders in Colorado as well this weekend. They will
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  Speaker 1: play tomorrow at 6.30 p.m. And so that's the matchup there.
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  Speaker 1: Paul Rothrock is injured, and he is out for this
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  Speaker 1: game and out for a while. Kraken are in action,
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  Speaker 1: but they aren't going to face the Avalanche. They're taking
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  Speaker 1: on the Canucks tomorrow at 6 o'clock, and that is
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  Speaker 1: the preseason opener. We will talk a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: Kraken hockey at the end of this hour. Elsewhere, our
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  Speaker 1: headlines take us to college football. Ole Miss versus LSU
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  Speaker 1: is the big game. 4.30 is the matchup. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin against his former Ole Miss Rebels, two highly
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  Speaker 1: ranked teams. Going to be a fantastic game, and of
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  Speaker 1: course there's drama because of Kiffin. Huskies will take on
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  Speaker 1: Eastern Washington tomorrow at 4.15, and the Cougs will be
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  Speaker 1: hosting Duquesne. We'll provide a Big Ten preview today.
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  Speaker 4: At 845.
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  Speaker 1: That's a service we always provide on Fridays. National Football
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  Speaker 1: League this Sunday, Cincinnati at Houston, Jacksonville at Denver, Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: at Kansas City. Just some of the games and a
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  Speaker 1: much better slate, I feel, in the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: this week than what we started with last week. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills got things started last night with a
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  Speaker 1: 41-31 win over the Detroit Lions, and the game really
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even that close.
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  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: The Lions defense had zero answers for Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo offense, so the Bills are off to a
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  Speaker 1: 2-0 start, and they won their first-ever game in their
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  Speaker 1: brand-new arena. So Buffalo knocking off the Lions by 10.
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  Speaker 1: This Sunday, the Seahawks at 1-0 will be in Arizona
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  Speaker 1: taking on the 1-0 Arizona Cardinals. Joining us to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that is our Seahawks insider.
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  Speaker 4: Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 3: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
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  Speaker 3: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit.
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  Speaker 1: With our own Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 4: Morning, Greg. Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. When do you head to Arizona?
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  Speaker 4: Saturday night.
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night.
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  Speaker 4: Late as I can. I've been there so many times.
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  Speaker 1: You spend as little time in Arizona as you possibly can,
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  Speaker 1: don't you?
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't care for it as much as
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  Speaker 4: other people. Plus, it's, what, early September? It's probably 100
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  Speaker 4: degrees down there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be 100. No question about it. Yeah, get ready
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  Speaker 1: for dust storms.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I know. You live there.
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  Speaker 1: I know all too well. But yeah, but I do
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  Speaker 1: love it. But yeah, this isn't the ideal time of
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  Speaker 1: the year to go down there.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's let's get into it. Anders and I both
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  Speaker 1: arrived at the same conclusion with our no cliche keys
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  Speaker 1: to victory just one segment ago. We just don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see this team turn the ball over at all.
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  Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then. I think the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: marched to a pretty easy, maybe a low-scoring victory, but
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  Speaker 1: nonetheless a pretty easy victory. And so it made me wonder,
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  Speaker 1: as Brian Fleury's still yet to be able to really
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  Speaker 1: unleash his offense, because he lost Sam so early in
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  Speaker 1: game number one, and now he has a backup quarterback
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  Speaker 1: starting in game number two. But are we looking at
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  Speaker 1: a really vanilla sort of offensive game plan that Drew
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  Speaker 1: Locke's going to be in charge of on Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so. They practiced Drew Locke in the
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  Speaker 4: entire offense throughout training camp. And Brian Fleury made the
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  Speaker 4: point yesterday that he actually has more experience calling plays
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  Speaker 4: and games with Drew Locke than with Sam Darnold because
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  Speaker 4: Darnold didn't play at all in the preseason, of course.
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  Speaker 4: So the fact that he, Locke, is actually running the
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  Speaker 4: plays and practice that they're going to use in the
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  Speaker 4: game plan against the Cardinals makes this week so different
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  Speaker 4: than last week. He talked about it. Fleury talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: And Locke, when I asked him about it, said it's
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  Speaker 4: like night and day. He was in the abstract last
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  Speaker 4: week with the New England game plan. He's in the
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  Speaker 4: practical this week with the Cardinals game plan. He's running
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  Speaker 4: every play that Fleury wants to run specific to the
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals defense, which, by the way, shut down the Chargers
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  Speaker 4: to just 268 yards and 51 plays last week. So
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  Speaker 4: I think you're going to see a much more expanded
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  Speaker 4: options set than you did on– the in the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: game when he's just thrown in there it just his
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  Speaker 4: preparation is it's going to make him so much more
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  Speaker 4: versatile inside the game plan than he was last.
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  Speaker 1: Week you know speaking that was another thing we brought
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  Speaker 1: up and I don't normally do this but it rolls
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  Speaker 1: right into the other thing we brought up just a
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  Speaker 1: segment ago speaking of more versatility on offense I mean
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  Speaker 1: are they ever going to have Rashid Shahid be a
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  Speaker 1: bigger part of this thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a point of last week in particular,
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  Speaker 4: Drew Locke coming in does not have the rapport with
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  Speaker 4: Rasheed Shaheed that Sam Darnold built in the offseason. I
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  Speaker 4: mentioned how Darnold and Shaheed went down to Mission VAO, California,
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  Speaker 4: Southern California, where they're both from, in that period between
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  Speaker 4: mid-June to July, training camp starting the end of July,
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  Speaker 4: and they worked a ton on routes against air, and
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  Speaker 4: you're like, well, what does that help? So what? Well,
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  Speaker 4: it It gave Darnold a gauge of Shahid's open field speed.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of times we saw him underthrowing the
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  Speaker 4: speedy receiver after he arrived from the Saints in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of last season, including the NFC title game. And
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  Speaker 4: Darnold was now used to that. He wasn't last year,
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  Speaker 4: and now he could throw it as far as he
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  Speaker 4: possibly could, and no Shahid can run to it because
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  Speaker 4: he's that fast. And I saw many times in training
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  Speaker 4: camp examples of that where he wasn't at all underthrowing.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, it was Shahid that had to get on
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  Speaker 4: his horse to go get passes. for touchdowns past the
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  Speaker 4: starting defense. Locke didn't have that experience. He didn't go
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  Speaker 4: to Southern California with Shaheed. He didn't work away from
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  Speaker 4: the facility, and he wasn't throwing to them all training camp.
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  Speaker 4: I think that has a large thing to do with it.
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  Speaker 4: I also think that Brian Fleur in his first game
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  Speaker 4: was trying to get to a little bit of everything.
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  Speaker 4: He admitted yesterday that he is limiting Jadarian Price, and
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  Speaker 4: I asked him point blank, do you want to give
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  Speaker 4: him more than seven touches in the first 37 plays, 24?
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  Speaker 4: or 12 total touches and 50 offensive plays that Price had.
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  Speaker 4: And he said, no, this is our plan. He's a rookie.
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  Speaker 4: We're limiting him. He didn't play at all in the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: We're ramping him up. Yes, he earned more opportunities in
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  Speaker 4: his performance the other night, but this is our plan
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  Speaker 4: early in the season. So Flory was dealing with all
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  Speaker 4: of that to worry about, oh, wait, how many times
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  Speaker 4: does 22 get in the ball? And then ultimately, Fleury
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  Speaker 4: can call whatever he wants, and it's up to the
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  Speaker 4: quarterback to get the ball to whoever the receiver is
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  Speaker 4: that he reads open on a given play. And more
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  Speaker 4: times than not in the last two years, that receiver
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  Speaker 4: is Jackson Smith and Jigba, and you can't argue with
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  Speaker 4: the results, right? He's the one who, their only touchdown
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  Speaker 4: of the game for the Seahawks was Smith and Jigba
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  Speaker 4: on fourth and one. When chips are down and a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback has to make a play, he's thrown to 11,
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  Speaker 4: not 22 so far. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So where does that, uh... create targets for tory wharton
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  Speaker 1: if in fact he's back if at all maybe it doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: Well we've got some ground to make up it he
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  Speaker 4: has been practicing fully all week it looks like he
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  Speaker 4: will make his season debut sunday but having missed since
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  Speaker 4: early November last year into the summer this year and
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  Speaker 4: now missing the opener and been out, hasn't practiced until
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  Speaker 4: this week for the last couple weeks, he's not foremost
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  Speaker 4: in the quarterback's minds, Locke or Darnold. He's got some
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  Speaker 4: ground to make up for sure. And he's got some
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  Speaker 4: ground to make up with his new play caller for
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  Speaker 4: that matter too because he hasn't been around. And it is–
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  Speaker 4: It's been an inauspicious beginning, to say the least, for
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  Speaker 4: his career because of all these injury concerns. They're waiting
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  Speaker 4: and pretty anxious, in fact, to see the real Torrey Horton.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if we're going to see the real
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  Speaker 4: one in his debut on Sunday, but he's got some
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  Speaker 4: ground to make up.
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  Speaker 1: Thenewstribune.com. All right, let's talk about Nick Emanwuri. What's going
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  Speaker 1: on with him? Any chance he might play on Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he's playing. He still has yet to
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  Speaker 4: fully practice since mid-June. He was a limited participant again
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  Speaker 4: yesterday at the beginning of practices that we're about to watch.
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  Speaker 4: He's on his own on the side stretching. He's among
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  Speaker 4: the players, and he's in the same practice uniform as
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  Speaker 4: they are, but he's not doing the same things. He's
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  Speaker 4: still on his own band work and extended stretching on
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  Speaker 4: that ankle. I just don't think a guy who hasn't
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  Speaker 4: played since the Super Bowl and hasn't practiced fully since
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  Speaker 4: now we're in mid to late September, since June, is
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  Speaker 4: just going to go running into the field on Arizona
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  Speaker 4: and play. That's not the long-term smart answer that the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks medical staff usually does. They're usually really, really conservative
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  Speaker 4: on guys that have been out a while and how
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  Speaker 4: they ramp them back. I'd be very surprised. I think
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  Speaker 4: he's going to get listed as questionable again, a little
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  Speaker 4: gamesmanship with the Cardinals. I'd be very surprised with what
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  Speaker 4: I've seen that he would play on Sunday and, in fact,
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  Speaker 4: I'm wondering about next week at Washington.
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  Speaker 1: But the secondary just played so well against the New
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  Speaker 1: England Patriots. Suddenly it doesn't seem like nearly as big
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  Speaker 1: a concern as it did last week before the Patriots game.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's because of Rodney Thomas and how he
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  Speaker 4: performed and how Nehemiah Pritchett performed. And we talked yesterday
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  Speaker 4: on the roundtable about Trevon Diggs and is he ready
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  Speaker 4: to go, but... how do you take Nehemiah Pritchett out
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  Speaker 4: after what he did last week? At Dirty, the defensive
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  Speaker 4: coordinator went on and on yesterday talking about Pritchett and
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  Speaker 4: how he met the challenge. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 4: signatures of this Mike McDonald regime is that when guys
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  Speaker 4: are called upon, they answer the bell. And when they
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  Speaker 4: answer the bell, they play. Think Ty Okada. Think Drake Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: Think Tyrese Knight this offseason. I think the same thing
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  Speaker 4: is happening now with Nehemiah Pritchett. If he can continue
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  Speaker 4: to tackle, which has been the coach's main concern recently,
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  Speaker 4: He's going to continue to play. They may have found
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  Speaker 4: their third cornerback, and he was under their noses the
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  Speaker 4: whole time after the Terry on Arnold rabbit hole, after
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  Speaker 4: getting Trevon Diggs and tried to spin him up. Pritchett,
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  Speaker 4: the guy who started training camp as the third corner,
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  Speaker 4: solidified that role for himself, I think, going forward.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so how do you stop Trey McBride, or
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  Speaker 1: at least slow him down, not let him take over
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  Speaker 1: a game? It feels like the one... weapon the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: have that the Seahawks might not have an answer for?
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  Speaker 4: He kills them every time. And it's, it's the number
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  Speaker 4: one thing in their game plan. And yet every time
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  Speaker 4: we get on there, every time the Cardinals come up here,
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  Speaker 4: he kills them. And he kills, he kills a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people. He's one of the best tight ends in
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  Speaker 4: the league, but the Cardinals really scheme for him. And
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  Speaker 4: now they have a new offensive play caller and head
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  Speaker 4: coach and Mike floor, of course, But Michael Flohr comes
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  Speaker 4: from a system in Sean McVay's that loves tight ends
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  Speaker 4: and multiple tight ends. They played a lot of 13
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  Speaker 4: tight ends. The Rams won with Flohr was the offense
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  Speaker 4: coordinator last year in L.A. And sure enough, the Cardinals
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  Speaker 4: ran some 13, some three tight ends last week against
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  Speaker 4: the Chargers. But McBride is someone they screen to. They
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  Speaker 4: run deep routes to. They run flag routes. They run crosses.
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  Speaker 4: They even sometimes get him into the backfield. He's their
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  Speaker 4: little bit of everything. He's like their Devo Samuel, but
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  Speaker 4: he's bigger, and he kills the Seahawks a lot more
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  Speaker 4: than Devo Samuel does. Every game, the Seahawks play the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 4: He's the number one priority in every game he's hurt them.
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  Speaker 4: Julian Love would be someone you might think, well, let's
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  Speaker 4: send Love to safety to guard him. But then Love
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  Speaker 4: is really good at being deep safety, back of the box,
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  Speaker 4: not necessarily tracking a tight end across the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the field. That's not usually his M.O., Now, he got
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  Speaker 4: an interception being a decoy in the middle of the field,
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  Speaker 4: baiting Drake May into it, yes, last week. But in general,
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  Speaker 4: that's not something you just devote. Okay, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: put Love on McBride. Do you put Witherspoon on McBride?
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  Speaker 4: That's also not something the Seahawks normally do. They don't
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  Speaker 4: usually track Witherspoon with a particular receiver, and if they would,
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  Speaker 4: it's usually an outside fast guy, not a big tight
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  Speaker 4: end on a 185-pound nickel corner. And Mike McDonald likes
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  Speaker 4: to have Witherspoon free up– to do blitzing from nickel,
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  Speaker 4: run support, coverage in the middle of it, not take
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  Speaker 4: him away from the rest of the defense by putting
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  Speaker 4: him on one guy. So that's why he's not been
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  Speaker 4: a travel corner in his career. So what I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to say in a long way is it's probably going
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  Speaker 4: to be a co-op. It's going to be zone coverage.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be trying to maybe underneath coverage with
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  Speaker 4: Ernest Jones, trying to pick him off coming across the
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  Speaker 4: middle line. It's going to be a committee of guys,
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  Speaker 4: and that committee hasn't worked in years when they've got
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  Speaker 4: Trey McBride. Usually when they go down there, they win
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  Speaker 4: despite not being able to handle Trey McBride.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so is that the key, or do you
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  Speaker 1: have a different key for this game? How do you
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  Speaker 1: expect the thing to unfold Sunday afternoon?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm with you guys. Turnovers are the mitigating factor.
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  Speaker 4: When you have a defending Super Bowl champion against a
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  Speaker 4: last-place team that is starting over a quarterback and a
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  Speaker 4: head coach, The turnovers are the thing that make games close.
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  Speaker 4: If Drew Locke does his job, one, job one for
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  Speaker 4: him is don't turn the ball over. If he does that,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to win. They're probably going to win without
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  Speaker 4: allowing a touchdown. Again, until we come across an offense,
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  Speaker 4: which may be San Francisco in week four, week five,
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  Speaker 4: until we get them, I don't see an offense that
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  Speaker 4: can just habitually move the ball down the field. And
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  Speaker 4: last year, San Francisco couldn't do it either. Not at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the year. They got three points in
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  Speaker 4: Week 18, and they got absolutely bushwhacked in the division
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  Speaker 4: title game up here. So find me an offense that
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  Speaker 4: can get the ball at the own 20 or own
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  Speaker 4: 25 yard line after a touchback and repeatedly drive 75,
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  Speaker 4: 80 yards for touchdowns on Mike McDonald's defense. There aren't
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  Speaker 4: many in the league right now, the way the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: defense plays. Cardinals with Jacoby Brissett is definitely not one.
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  Speaker 4: Don't turn the ball over. You don't give up touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: You win. They don't need to score too many. to
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  Speaker 4: win this game if you don't turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 4: McBride's going to get his. Would love to see Jarrion
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  Speaker 4: Price get more, but from what I heard talking to
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  Speaker 4: Fleury yesterday, it's not going to be much more, but
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  Speaker 4: it should be more than it was last week. That
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  Speaker 4: would help as well with the offense. Like I said yesterday,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I'm talking 20-6, 20-9 with just field goals for Arizona,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: unless Drew Locke gives the ball away and then it's
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: a close game and who knows what. We've seen some
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: wild stuff down there in Arizona.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Um, last thing for you here this morning, I didn't
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: find a way to work it into the round table yesterday, uh,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: and get huge thoughts on it, but, um, I did
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: want to mention it this week. I mean, before the twelves, uh,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: ever existed, really, um, The Seahawks played football for a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: long time, and one of their best players to ever
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: play was Fred Young, who passed away this week. What
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: was the reaction at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center within
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the organization to that sad news?
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those of us who have been around the team
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: for a long time know Fred Young and have been
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: around and seen Fred Young be around the team and
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: know the value of him. He was one of those
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: original Seahawks, blue-collar-type linebacker guys that didn't get a lot
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: of notoriety but was a fixture. And yeah, there aren't
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: a lot anymore who have been around when the Fred
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Youngs were still around the Seahawks, but there are some.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: And they noted it. And I'm glad you brought that up.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: That's certainly something that needs to be brought up and
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: recognized for. Yeah, there are a lot of players in
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: that era of NFL football who didn't get the money,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: not relative to what they get today. And it didn't
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: get the notoriety who were still. And before social media,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: everybody had a thumb to publicize somebody. Fred Young was
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: one of those guys. Dan Dornick was another one of
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: those guys. Paul Moyer. Those Seahawks, those of us who
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: have been around a while know those guys. That was
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: appropriate for you to bring up. Thanks. All right, man.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Well, have a great weekend. Get in and out. And, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: hopefully Arizona won't be the house of horrors it's been
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: in the past. Knock on wood.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. Yeah, it was 6-6 overtime tie. Earl Thomas
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: flipping off everybody on the back of a card. Cam
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Chancellor's career-ending injury. Yeah, it's been wild. And, of course,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: the Malcolm Butler interception. It's been crazy down there. Not
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: so much recently.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: And that's a credit to what Mike McDonald has solidified
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the franchise. Yeah. Proof will probably be closed. It's supposed
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: to be 95 degrees. All right.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you on Monday.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: All right, thank you.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joining us right
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: here on Chuck in the Mornings. And, of course, we
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• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and get home. That's kind of the way I feel
• 19:34
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• 19:37
  Speaker 1: will get the job done. So we'll talk more about
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that coming up here at 8.30. But we play Factor
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Fiction in our next segment, and we'll have a little
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: more time to talk about that Huskies offense. We brought
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it up a little bit earlier. we brought it up
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week and here's something that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: i think they should try even though it sounds like
• 19:55
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• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Now back to the Washington State Beef Commission's Football Friday
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM. I know it's a beef Friday,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: but I went chicken last night.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Is it....
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Did I do that because I was watching the Buffalo
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Bills and so I was thinking about Buffalo Wings? Did
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I do that? Did you? I think maybe I did.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Does that happen? Like, if you're going to tune into
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a Saints game, like, when it's the only game and you're, oh,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'll take the gumbo. I mean, does it work like that?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Am I that psychologically weak or does everybody else? That's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: not a weakness.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: That's not a weakness.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's not a weakness.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It's like a suggestion. It's like an unspoken suggestion. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was conscious watching the Buffalo bills and they were in Buffalo.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden I was sitting there thinking,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I really want some chicken wings. Yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: So it was my buddy sitting next to me. They
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like said it out loud. Yeah. I, I, I, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I want chicken wings.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this falls in the same category,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: but I always change like the type of drink that
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm drinking, whether by the time of year. Oh, if
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: it's like summer, I take a light like Mexican lager
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: or something or maybe a gin and tonic, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: kind of refreshing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Well, sure.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: If we're later in the wintertime, then you're.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. I mean, soup.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You're not going to eat soup in summer.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Right. Exactly.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: That's what you're doing.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's a similar vibe where depending on where
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you're kind of.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Travis? I don't think that's similar
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: at all. A little different.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Fair enough.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Shot that down. One's like subconsciously you're being given messages.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Your brain is being told without you realizing it. Ooh,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I want chicken wings. Right. I think that happened to me. No, seasonal,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like there are seasonal drinks and there are seasonal foods, everybody. Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Like foods that are only really available in the summer.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And then if you're hot, you want something cooler.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So that's not anything. Okay. That's not anything. That doesn't
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: take any time to diagnose that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, I'm not as mentally weak as
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Chuck is over here. Because apparently that's a normal thing.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a normal thing. That doesn't happen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But I know, I understand what you're saying. You watch
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: a game and you see, especially like college games where
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: they show all the atmosphere and everything. You see all
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the stuff from that place.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if I watch the Dolphins, do I want
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to like mahi-mahi? I wonder if that happens to me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: A little bit of a stretch.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Even though I think that's tuna, but you know what
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would I do that? But
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I did it last night watching a game in Buffalo,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and it's like I transported myself. Well, I got to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have wings. I don't know. I'm going to start monitoring myself, though.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Watch out for those no-cliché key to victory. Someone's entering
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: your brain, all right, because I stole your no-cliché key
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to victory.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just an open book right now. Yeah, I guess.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Someone's inceptioning you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: By the way, tall people, stay away from me when
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the Giants play. All right. Factor Fiction's coming up at 735.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Huskies will play tomorrow. We've already discussed this throughout the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: course of the week, but we have new information because
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel brought this up. I brought it up then
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to Cam Cleland. I brought it up to Softee yesterday. And,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of course, it's a topic that I brought up earlier
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: in the week. The Washington Huskies don't seem to have
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: much faith right now. They're not having any success in
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: their running game. And they're down to their third string
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: running back. And I'm not sure they have a lot
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of faith from third string on. And they need to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: get a running game going. And they have a quarterback
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that can run. And I asked Jed Fish at the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: beginning of the year, you know, we are going to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: do some design runs, right, for DeMond Williams. And he
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: laughed and he said that would be malpractice. Malpractice. I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: still can't get my fish down. Should be a very
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: easy voice to impersonate, and yet I've never heard anybody
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: do it. But he said that would be malpractice not
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to let him run the ball more and have design
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: runs for him. And so my thought was, hey, look,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at Louisville threw the ball 15 times a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: game and ran the ball 25.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: This is college football. I know that Lamar Jackson's bigger
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: than DeMond Williams, but he was pretty skinny and lean.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: He's that now. He certainly was skinny and lean in college,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and they still ran him 20 times a game. So
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it is an option that DeMond Williams
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: is your running game. Softy, I guess, asked Coach Fish yesterday.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: He said, no, no, no, we're not there yet. We're
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: not there where we would We would expose him that much.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: But then again, would he tell us if he was planning?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Would he tell Softie? Would he tell anyone? Would he
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: let that out there if they were planning on using
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: DeMond Williams' legs more tomorrow against Eastern Washington?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, maybe. Jetfish does
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: kind of seem like a little bit of an open
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: book where he kind of tells it like it is,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: so to speak. But I still think.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It's not like the running game was you were incredibly
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: confident about it when the two starting two running backs
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: were there. And it looks like miles different with in
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the Washington State game. It was still
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: struggling then. So I think the issue runs deeper more
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: than just, hey, our top two guys are out.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: The offensive line, which we expected to be a strength
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: of this team, has not been. uh, to this point.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Another reason though, to get creative, get out on the edge,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: use your fastest guy. I agree with that. And your
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: best weapon. Um, I said at the beginning of the year,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I thought that he would lead the team in rushing.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And now I think he has to lead the team
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in rushing.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: At this point, if he's not, then you're in trouble.
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• 26:50
  Speaker 1: a good one. We lost again last night. I'm off
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to a one and three start. So the morning show,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: which people were describing us as probably unbeatable this year.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Two-time defending champs added Anders Hurst.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I thought.
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• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep it simple. Like you said, I've
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  Speaker 2: row as a show. I'm just keeping it simple. Seahawks, Cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: under 41.5. Everything that we've heard from Greg, from the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: roundtable yesterday, everything we've talked about... I think this is
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: going to be a low scoring game and I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that's the way it's going to be designed by Mike McDonald.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I do get a little scared of the trade McBride
• 27:45
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• 27:50
  Speaker 2: to the Mike McDonald defense, it seems like it's tight ends.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Whether it's George Kittle, whether it's Trey McBride, they always
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: seem to expose us there.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It's been a Seahawk long thing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: It is. A long time.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So not just Mike McDonald, I guess, is a good point.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But I do think that even with him doing his thing,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I don't see the Cardinals scoring more than... 13 points
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: um especially if you don't turn the ball over like
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier so i've taken under 41
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and a half for the game seahawks cardinals and uh
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: we should get back on the horse with this one
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: so pretty simple seahawks cardinals under should be a low
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: scoring game all.
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  Speaker 1: the first preseason game of the year. And here we sit, Anders.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I really tried not to hit this all that hard
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  Speaker 1: here lately. I mean, we've had so much to talk
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  Speaker 1: And yet, I mean, we're through the offseason. We're through
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• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that an organization that promised us they were going to
• 33:11
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  Speaker 1: out how to make this team better this year. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: they made one minor trade and re-signed one of their
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: own and let an awful lot of guys leave. Not that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They were hugely valued. I think that was part of
• 33:30
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• 33:35
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• 33:40
  Speaker 1: about as quiet of an offseason as you can have,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: how did that occur?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think first, let's kind of jump out
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: in front of it. The audit itself, I don't think,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: was ever going to be more of a, hey, we
• 33:51
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• 33:54
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  Speaker 2: the point of it. It was kind of more on
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  Speaker 2: the back end, like, okay, what do we need to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: do with our analytics department? What do we need to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: do with our physio team? All that kind of stuff.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And from what I hear, I don't know about specifics,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but they did make significant changes in those aspects of
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: the game that the public doesn't really ever see. But
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: in terms of the roster building, I completely agree with you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And the most frustrating thing about this is the fact
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: that it's somewhat excusable to be a bad hockey team presently.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: If you have kind of an outlook for the future, okay,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: we have a couple really young 19, 20-year-olds that in
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: a few years are projected to be superstars, right? And
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: you can.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Go through your lumps with them, play them more than
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a team that's competing for the Stanley Cup normally would
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: so that they can develop, right? It's very similar to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: baseball in that aspect. But the reality is that the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Kraken don't even really have those.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: They're a team that is.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Their roster isn't very strong right now, and it doesn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: look like it's going to really improve all that much
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: in the near future.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Which is why I think myself and just about everybody listening. Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I knew they were going to look at their medical team. analytics.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Uh, I think they were going to look at their
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: front office. Are you the right guy for the job?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Are you the person selling tickets? Are you the right
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: ticket seller.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: That we have?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I knew they were going to do that, but I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: also kind of assumed with a team that has not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: played good hockey for what? Three seasons now that that
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: also meant we're going to change up this roster significantly.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I just assumed that maybe, you know, When you look
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: at every single aspect of the organization, I didn't think
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that they would go around the office, tinker here, tinker there. Oh,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: we could improve that. We could improve that. And then
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: get the roster and say, but that's fine. That group
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of players we have, it was everything else that was
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: The roster we have, though. It's totally good. Yeah. Is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: it a peach?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: It is a humdinger.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Which it is not. It is not.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So I certainly didn't think that you would turn over
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: every rock and stone except for the roster. So I'm shocked.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I'm frankly shocked that the only thing that was done
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: this offseason was to add Sam Iskevich. Like stunned by that.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I am as well.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And now here we go. I mean, if you get
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the same results, then what?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's, I mean, obviously you have to
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: think about front office changes at that point. I would
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: have thought that would have.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: You know what it's like? It's like if you're having
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: marital problems and you're like, you know what? I'm going
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to really take a look at how I can be
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: better as a spouse in this relationship. And all that
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you did was you like rearrange your sock drawer.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You know, started eating more fiber. You know, maybe went
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and talked to your mom about how her relationship with her,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you know, her, your dad went. Yeah. And then you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: didn't change like one thing about yourself. Like you didn't
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: change any of the ways that you do things. I'm
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: going to take a real serious look on how I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: could be a better husband. And so I'm going to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: go judge and evaluate every other married couple I know. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and then when I come back to you, I'm not
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: going to have changed a thing. That's how it strikes
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to me, because doesn't it start with the roster? It does.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: If you're going to make that big announcement, to me
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: it is we start with the roster, and then we
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: try to figure out a few cheat codes in between
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the cracks.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not defending them by any stretch of
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the imagination, but it's the reality in the world of hockey.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: There's basically three ways to add players, to add talent
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to your team. Number one is by free agency. Um,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: which this year was a historically not good class of
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: free agents. I don't think there was really anyone available.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: in the open market that would have come and changed,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: you know, really changed the outlook of your team. Number
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: two is via trade, and number three is via the draft, right?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I thought the best kind of route to get this
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: team fast-tracked to being a good team quickly would be
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: via trade, but everyone and their mothers has a no-move
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: clause in hockey. And for whatever reason, no one wants
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to come to Seattle. And that's been kind of the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: big talking point in the off-season. They tried to get
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Jason Robertson They tried to get Artemi Panarin last year.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Those would have been guys that come in and be like, OK,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: we have a guy that we can kind of lean on.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Because I don't think the Kraken have a bad roster
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: from top to bottom. They have a bad roster at
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the top. The rest of the roster is filled out
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: with good role players. It's just those role players are
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: playing roles that they shouldn't be playing because they don't
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: really have anyone.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: At the top.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: So now they're forced to really think about the draft.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And they've been kind of in that weird spot where
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: they're too good to really have a high pick and
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: get that superstar. But they're not. good enough to make
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. And they continue to look at as if
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that's going to be the case this year as well.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope that rearranging your sock drawer makes you
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a better hockey team because that's the way that it feels.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: That's what it feels like to me too.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:41
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