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NFL Week 18 Saturday Games | January 04, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka Totagg and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for a sad said It's gonna be fun, but
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  Speaker 2: a sad Week eighteen show. So we are to the
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  Speaker 2: end of the regular season, but we've got a two gamer,
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  Speaker 2: got a big slate tomorrow. We be back tomorrow morning,
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  Speaker 2: nine forty five am Eastern, same crew. You see her
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  Speaker 2: hoop title and myself breaking down the main slate. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on with that one, but first
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  Speaker 2: gotta break down this two gamer and hoopster. I'll bring
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  Speaker 2: you in first.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's a AFC North Saturday. Lamar baby, he's in the booths.
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  Speaker 2: We're ready to go. Let's rock it, Let's go. What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Who you doing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean Week eighteen overall is I mean, it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a wild one. I don't think this is what
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  Speaker 3: the NFL had in mind for Week eighteen of the
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  Speaker 3: NFL season with I mean basically all the playoff spots
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  Speaker 3: locked up, a couple decisions. I mean, really one true
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  Speaker 3: big game the Lions Vikings, which has been flexed to
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  Speaker 3: Sunday night. But I'm glad they continue to do these
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  Speaker 3: smaller slates. I mean they're fun. Number one. I mean
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  Speaker 3: they're a lot of fun to play. You know you're
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  Speaker 3: watching them on TV. Prize pools are big, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I enjoy these smaller slates. I enjoy doing
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  Speaker 3: the show, kind of talking through it, a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a different strategy, not showdown, not full slate, somewhere
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  Speaker 3: right in the middle. Have a massive spread your Ravens
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  Speaker 3: favorite by just about twenty. The team total for the
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  Speaker 3: Browns is sitting at like ten points, like I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I've ever seen that. So that game pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And then the next one the bank goals and the
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  Speaker 3: Steelers Bengals one of the few teams that absolutely has
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  Speaker 3: to win this week and they'll be going all out.
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  Speaker 3: The Steelers could be a little less incentivized depending on
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  Speaker 3: what happens in the Ravens game. So yeah, we'll see
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  Speaker 3: you talk through it. And one real big piece of
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  Speaker 3: injury news, which you know you could probably take a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of advantage of, is this Chase Brown situation.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't had many of these situations on
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  Speaker 3: main slates throughout the season. The injury reporting in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: I will say, has been very good all season, like
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  Speaker 3: they're getting this information out there well ahead of time.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't had to really wait and sit on much news.
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  Speaker 3: But the Chase Brown thing earlier in the week seemed
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  Speaker 3: like he was going to be out head and practice
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  Speaker 3: at all. Then you get the report yesterday that he
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  Speaker 3: went through the walkthrough, and then you get the report
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  Speaker 3: today that he's going to warm up and try to play.
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  Speaker 3: So that's probably the most important talking point on the
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  Speaker 3: entire slate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I should know too. Higgins is expected to play.
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  Speaker 2: We got that when we were thinking we're in the clear,
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  Speaker 2: and this seems like a pretty good two gamer. Based
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  Speaker 2: on having all the news, can start building it. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about the strategy when we get to that point.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to go position by position, being that
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  Speaker 2: it's a two gamer, so we'll go through quarterback, running back,
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  Speaker 2: we'll do the grand scheme overview. But first got to
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  Speaker 2: bring my guy title and I'm not sure I was
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  Speaker 2: talking to him pre show. Is that a little Vegas
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  Speaker 2: voice I hear over there? Is that what we got?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, still recovering. It's it's been tough over here, so
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  Speaker 4: I'll try and keep it a little shorter than usual.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, it's only two games slate, so
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  Speaker 4: I Hopeully can recover for a monster slate tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: That's going to be a mess. But yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 5: Vegas voice for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It means you had a good time. Hope you did
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  Speaker 2: as well, and you and the fam and everybody's all good.
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  Speaker 2: But let's go to Hoopster here first. Then let you
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  Speaker 2: recover off that and talk to his grand scheme. You
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  Speaker 2: mentioned some of it, hoop with the I mean you
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  Speaker 2: were breaking down motivational factors in week eighteen. We got
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  Speaker 2: Hoopster all the way in. But you talked about Chase Brown.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that and building that way. Is there
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  Speaker 2: anything else just from an overarching point of view that
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  Speaker 2: you see when it comes to building for this two
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  Speaker 2: game slate?
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  Speaker 3: H Well, I mean it's definitely unique in the fact,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, where we have a team total on
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  Speaker 3: this slate that is less than two touchdowns. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of times the lowest you see is like fourteen, like
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  Speaker 3: thirteen and a half. Fourteen is typically the lowest team
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  Speaker 3: total you'll see in the NFL all season long, even
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  Speaker 3: the absolute shitty teams going against the best teams with
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  Speaker 3: the best defenses, they typically sit around fourteen as a
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  Speaker 3: team total, like we have the Browns team total sitting
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  Speaker 3: between ten somewhere around ten, ten and a half eleven,
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  Speaker 3: depending on where you're looking. And you know, obviously they
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  Speaker 3: have nothing to play for. The Ravens have everything in
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  Speaker 3: the world to play for. They're going to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: win this division, win the game, you win the division,
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  Speaker 3: and that's big for them because you get a home
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  Speaker 3: game and that's what you want in the playoffs. So
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  Speaker 3: they're going all out. The Browns are clearly not going
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  Speaker 3: all out, resting a bunch of their guys, Bailey Zappi
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  Speaker 3: starting at quarterback. So it's very interesting from that perspective,
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  Speaker 3: just looking at that one game, and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: the game after we have injury news lingering in Chase Brown,
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  Speaker 3: which could really I mean, if he's out, Khalil Herbert's
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  Speaker 3: like the most popular guy on the slate most likely
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  Speaker 3: because he's cheap. He's going to get the full workload,
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  Speaker 3: all three downs, goal line. But if Chase Brown is in,
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  Speaker 3: is he one hundred percent He's not one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 3: but is he going to get one hundred percent of
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  Speaker 3: the staffs. Who knows could it be a split between
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  Speaker 3: Brown and Herbert? Can they both be in play on
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  Speaker 3: this slave? So it just adds a wrinkle, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: kind of glad that we have something like this, I
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  Speaker 3: mean from a roster construction standpoint and going in like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it can be a little difficult and confusing and hard
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  Speaker 3: to understand the true situations, but it just adds a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of wrinkle into the slate. And if you're
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  Speaker 3: willing to put in the work, you know all the
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  Speaker 3: way through, you probably have a little bit of an
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  Speaker 3: advantage here on this slate. And you know, I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about it ahead of time, like, yeah, I've
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  Speaker 3: gotten big into the one fifty stuff, but I'm still
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  Speaker 3: not great in my late swap and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm actually kind of looking forward to it give
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  Speaker 3: me an opportunity to maybe improve on that. So we'll
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  Speaker 3: see how it all goes. But it's a dynamic slate,
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  Speaker 3: it certainly is. And then I said, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a motivation thing as well
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  Speaker 3: with the Steelers, because if the Ravens win, then the
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  Speaker 3: Steelers can really only move like I think maybe one
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  Speaker 3: spot up or down so like do they really give
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  Speaker 3: a shit? And Russell Wilson's looking to be very, very popular.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of different like talking points and
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  Speaker 3: scenarios on the slate, just the two game slate, which
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  Speaker 3: will make it interesting for dfs. But the one thing,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, if you work through this slate all
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  Speaker 3: the way and you know, depending on that Chase Brown news,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's definitely a chance for an edge or
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  Speaker 3: an advantage here against the competition.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, before I go to title, because they already I
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  Speaker 2: said titled they were missing to the prop reports and
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  Speaker 2: the weather reports. But before I bring you back in,
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  Speaker 2: I will say, talk about this all the time. Everyone's
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  Speaker 2: planning to play dfstinate. That's why you're all here, and
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  Speaker 2: you're watching this preparation greater than planning. Talk about it
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  Speaker 2: a lot. To Hoop's point right there, if you are
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  Speaker 2: on your late swap game and thinking ahead, if you
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  Speaker 2: are willing to build in sets and all, talk about
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  Speaker 2: it for sure. But I'm definitely gonna be building lineups
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  Speaker 2: without Chase Brown and lineups with because here's the thing
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  Speaker 2: about this slate, the first game being that it's a
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  Speaker 2: blowout even if you are loading up Ravens five, six
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  Speaker 2: Ravens whatever it is, and saying they're gonna get those points.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing some of that. But even if you're doing that,
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  Speaker 2: you almost are always still going to have a late
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  Speaker 2: swap ability in the last game. Like it's unlikely that
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  Speaker 2: you are just left with Chase Brown and Sin CD
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  Speaker 2: and overstack the first game, so is everybody else. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's part something to remember. So if I'm building those lineups.
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  Speaker 2: The one thing that's interesting about building a Chase Brown
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  Speaker 2: lineup is if he's ruled out, there's tons of ways
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  Speaker 2: I can swap off of it. But that may give
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  Speaker 2: me some lower owned options in game one that it
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  Speaker 2: has to use to fill those lineups out, and then
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  Speaker 2: I can late swap off it later. But if everyone
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  Speaker 2: else can get to say, and you know, Mark Andrews
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  Speaker 2: and all these things, I may have some likely and
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  Speaker 2: Bateman lineups that end up being the ones you need.
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  Speaker 2: But not many people had them because they built as
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  Speaker 2: if Chase Brown was out, as it was originally expected.
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  Speaker 2: Again to Hoop's point, Chase even if he is out,
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  Speaker 2: or so even if he is in, you could still
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  Speaker 2: use Herbert on this slate like it may just be
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  Speaker 2: where he's still valuable enough and it's a two gamer,
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  Speaker 2: not a fourteen gamer. It's not quite showdown, but there's
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  Speaker 2: definitely stuff where you could have a wide receiver four
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  Speaker 2: beat a wide receiver two or one and you still
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  Speaker 2: had the money left over because of that, and you're
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  Speaker 2: good that way. So title I'll kick. Do you anything
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  Speaker 2: you want to add man or go through? If not,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're good to get into it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Chase Brown stuff for sure, like
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  Speaker 4: your shout out. If you're building with Chase Brown, expect
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  Speaker 4: him to be in and it is Khlil Herbert A.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's that much of a drop off
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  Speaker 4: in turn like minus one ozh five for Chase Brown.
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  Speaker 5: And score plus one hundred for Herbert.
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  Speaker 4: Don't have rushing yards props for Herbert yet, but I
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  Speaker 4: think Khlil Herbert is a good running back two point
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  Speaker 4: five k different. So if you're building like it's Brown
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  Speaker 4: and you're swapping, you're gonna probably be leaving thousands of
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  Speaker 4: dollars on the table. But that's totally acceptable, honestly. Like this,
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  Speaker 4: even if Chase Brown is in, they'll get you more
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  Speaker 4: unique like the running back room itself Nauseum and Warren,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, not the best spot. Deontay Foreman getting ownership.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of these Browns are getting ownership. That was
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  Speaker 4: another thing that set out to me, Like the Akins
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  Speaker 4: of the world, Elijah Moore and Judies are getting Some
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  Speaker 4: Browns are definitely higher own the skill position players than
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  Speaker 4: I expected with a total like they have.
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  Speaker 5: And I do think this is a good point and
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  Speaker 5: I'm playing it like this.
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  Speaker 4: I do believe the Steelers will go all out today
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  Speaker 4: in that second game, because plain Houston is a lot
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  Speaker 4: bit better than playing Baltimore. But then you look Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: Another thing, I was surprised he's the most popular quarterback
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  Speaker 4: on the slate today with Burrow with Lamar, if you
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  Speaker 4: do think it is Herbert over Chase Brown two, I
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  Speaker 4: think jamming Lamar a little more in the first game,
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  Speaker 4: because then again then you'd have more flexibility with salary
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  Speaker 4: is pretty interesting. Everyone going Henry, but Lamar a definitely
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  Speaker 4: going to stay in check. People worried about that twenty
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  Speaker 4: and a half total, So when we go position by position,
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  Speaker 4: I think we'll all feel better about it like we
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  Speaker 4: usually do.
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  Speaker 2: And we buried the lead hoop. Do you know who's
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  Speaker 2: burn day it is today?
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, I can only imagine.
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  Speaker 2: King Henry's birthday now we've moved on to January. It's
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  Speaker 2: not December anymore, but it's his actual birthday today. So
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  Speaker 2: does that change anything for you? And then if not,
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  Speaker 2: take us into the quarterback conversation that title just kicked off.
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  Speaker 3: There doesn't change anything for me obviously, you guys know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, one to play into that stuff
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  Speaker 3: all that much. But I mean he's at home favored
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  Speaker 3: by twenty against a shitty, shitty team, Like that's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm more concerned about them. The birthday celebration stuff. The
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  Speaker 3: quarterback stuff is interesting, you know, just looking at ownership,
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  Speaker 3: I think it is very interesting where like Russell Wilson's
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  Speaker 3: going to be the highest owned or right up there
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  Speaker 3: with two guys that are in phenomenal spots Like I
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  Speaker 3: don't care if the Browns are favored by twenty Lamar
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  Speaker 3: Jackson at home on a slate where I mean, really
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  Speaker 3: you look at it like a low score at quarterback
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  Speaker 3: could be the winner. Like I just got to be
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  Speaker 3: in on him, and I hope we see that ownership
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  Speaker 3: go to Russell Wilson because for me personally, like I'm
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  Speaker 3: fine going underweight on the rustling and just making sure
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  Speaker 3: I get Lamar or even Joe Burrow, who I think
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  Speaker 3: is in a really really good I mean, they're just
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  Speaker 3: throwing the ball a ton, And the situation with Chase Brown,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of whether or not he plays, is good for
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  Speaker 3: the passing attack. They're going to continue to just throw
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  Speaker 3: the ball a ton. So the Chase Brown injury again
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  Speaker 3: whether or not he plays, I think is good for
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  Speaker 3: Burrow and the passing attack for the Bengals. So I
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  Speaker 3: want to prioritize Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow as much as possible.
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  Speaker 3: And to me, a pretty lot a lot of this
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  Speaker 3: ownership is surprising. Title touched on it a little bit
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  Speaker 3: with like the Brown stuff. The Browns are projected to
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  Speaker 3: score ten and outside of the quarterback position, you look
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  Speaker 3: at some of these ownership numbers like they're some of
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  Speaker 3: the highest oon guys like at the respective positions, which
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  Speaker 3: is insane to me. So we'll talk about it really
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  Speaker 3: doesn't apply that much of the quarterback spot because like
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  Speaker 3: Zappie's gonna get low, you know, very low ownership, and
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  Speaker 3: you know everything's going to Lamar Jackson, Burrow and Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: But in this quarterback position, I'm hoping that Russell Wilson
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  Speaker 3: gets this ownership. I think he does because people are
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  Speaker 3: gonna want a jam Derek Henry. People are gonna want
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  Speaker 3: a Jam Jamar, Chase T Higgins, Zay Flowers, Pickens. They're
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  Speaker 3: gonna want to do that. So, you know, the Wilson
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  Speaker 3: ownership I hope stays stays there. And then like for me,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be as much Lamar, as much Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 3: as I can possibly get, and it's going to likely
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  Speaker 3: be a very underweight stance. Can't fade them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: can't fade Russell Wilson. Gonna, especially in one fifty, gonna
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  Speaker 3: need to include him in some way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 3: But for me, it's gonna be as little as possible,
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  Speaker 3: Like I want Lamar and Joe Burrow to be on
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  Speaker 3: a large, large majority of my team. So pretty straightforward
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  Speaker 3: for me, like what I'm doing at quarterback, what I
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  Speaker 3: want to see, and you know, I'm good to move
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  Speaker 3: on to the next position. So quarterback it's Lamar and
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  Speaker 3: underweight Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go forty forty twenty. Pretty easily and
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  Speaker 2: be in good shape. You know, forty percent Lamar or
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  Speaker 2: forty And again your split you want to put on
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  Speaker 2: it out there is up to you. Just to Hoop's point,
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  Speaker 2: that should get you some Russell Wilson. You can still
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  Speaker 2: build those lineups accordingly or in the way you feel best,
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  Speaker 2: and then you can have it. So you've got overweight
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  Speaker 2: stances on Lamar and Joe Burrow. That was when you say,
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  Speaker 2: you know he's gonna he's gonna do well. But it's
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  Speaker 2: not because of his birthday. It's not because of this.
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  Speaker 2: He does have a five hundred k incentive linked he
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  Speaker 2: already just hit one with all the other stuff he's at,
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  Speaker 2: but one more rushing touchdown. So with a twenty point spread,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm confident. What's the odds title? You
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  Speaker 2: got it over there? What's the the minus two fifty
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  Speaker 2: today or what is it king Henry Lamar Henry minus
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  Speaker 2: forty five? Yeah, there you go. He's scoring a touchdown
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  Speaker 2: and getting five hundred grand today. That's a reward for him.
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  Speaker 2: Does again people just assume that means automatic value in dfs,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily, Like Lamar is still trying to do stuff.
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  Speaker 2: He's still trying to do MVP things, and this is
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  Speaker 2: certain something to consider as well. But they got to
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  Speaker 2: get those points scored first. That's that's the key. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: In regards to this question, a lot of people ask it, like,
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  Speaker 3: if it was a main slate, sure, let's get picky
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  Speaker 3: and try to determine win the Ravens blow out the Browns.
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  Speaker 3: But on a two game slate, you just can't be
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  Speaker 3: this picky. And we saw it well it was the
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  Speaker 3: last two or three games slate when they absolutely destroyed
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  Speaker 3: the Texans and their guys were all over the Hoptamal lineup,
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  Speaker 3: So you can't really, you know, think into it this
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  Speaker 3: much on a two game slate.
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  Speaker 2: Same as this one. Sorry, it's all good. I was
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  Speaker 2: transitioning it to before I go back. Yeah, that one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because this has been when they're playing on these short slates,
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  Speaker 2: which we have seen the Ravens on a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these lately. Two gamers, yes, a lot more likely for
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  Speaker 2: two guys over eight K to hit together, especially if
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  Speaker 2: they're team totals thirty plus, and they're very likely to
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  Speaker 2: hit it. And this like, yeah, I'd rather win the
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  Speaker 2: Millie Maker than win cash games this week. But one
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  Speaker 2: has a lot higher chance of happening when it's the
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  Speaker 2: top fifty percent versus a lottery outcome, like good for
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  Speaker 2: him and awesome stuff. You'll get some sacks, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think that's happening. It's you know, moved
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  Speaker 2: up by the way, from seventeen and a half to
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  Speaker 2: twenty and a half. It just keeps going.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the shit. I mean, when you're playing on
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  Speaker 3: a dead team, that's the stuff you have to say
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  Speaker 3: as a superstar, Like that's like a given quote, like
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: does he believe it? Fuck no, he doesn't believe it.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: He knows they're getting their ass kicked today. But you
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: got to say that as a superstar and the you know,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's a captain of the team and all
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: that shit. Of course you got to say that crap.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, title, I'll let you off back in quarterback.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Additional stuff. I know you hit on it originally, but
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: just anything else you want to add off a hoop there.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Burrow is definitely my favorite man. He has looked.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: I mean it was tough, I guess in the first half,
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: but he can put up points in bunches. The Chase
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Brown Khalil Herbert stuff. Both our solid pass catchers. Regardless
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: of who it is back. There a million different ways
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: to go with him. He saw Aga Seki last week,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Yoshi Vas the Higgins Chase can triple him up, you
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: can do whatever. Burrow's my favorite. Then the Lamar Russell
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Wilson stuff. Obviously I'm not playing Bailey Zappy. If he
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: beats me, he beats me. But yeah, your forty forty
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: twenty stuff, I expect to be somewhere around there. I
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: think that's a good shout. Would get you overweight Burrow,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Lamar a little underweight Russ. I will say, I do
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: like Ross at home Bingals defense isn't good.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: There is ways to go about him.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: He does have some rushing upside himself as well, but
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I mean he's the highest quarterback, so just feels really
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: weird to me. Lamar Burrow two of the best quarterbacks.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: They're gonna be below Russell Wilson. So I do think
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going Burrow, Lamar, Russ and a lot of different ways. Yeah,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: over second Bingles. When you play Lamar Can, playing with
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Henry Can, playing with zay Can, playing with the tight ends,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: A lot of ways to go that way, and the
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: ownership and those pass catchers for the Ravens aren't showing
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: too much, so really easy at quarterback.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: And just to note a Jake shown it to Jake
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: always here supporting and jumping in with the takes. But
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: it is hitting like Ship de miser over at our
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: side Ship at Nation dot com. You can see it
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: burrow over stacks and you can go further than this overstack.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: This is just showing the breakdown. But thirty plus thirty five,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: let's say, so thirty five of the lineups are already
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: with Herbert, Chase Kasiki or t Higgins, whoever you fill in.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: And obviously if when Chase Brown gets a projection and
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: boosted in there I had this up earlier, you can
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: adjust that. But mixing and matching, you are seeing a
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: lot of people going that way. The rust side is
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was mentioned here somewhere maybe as Ross
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: just brought it up. Yeah, consolidated so to what title
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: was just talking about ways you can build it, and
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: that lets you fit a little bit more because obviously
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the fifty three hundred versus the seventy five, that's the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: biggest thing in that game on this slate and It
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just goes back to me still liking Lamar the most,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: even though you know it's not a Homer thing. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: just so he's eight k he's more than even more
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: than Joe Burrow, and people have a hard time stacking him.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: They're gonna put up the points. It's just where does
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: it come from. I think a lot of it comes
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: from him. You can play him with Henry on a
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: two games slate, so my split maybe a little higher
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: to the Lamar side, But I like these Russell Wilson
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: lineups as just the thought process of if he keeps
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: up with Joe Burrow, he has that delta. He doesn't
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: have to do the same as Joe Burrow because he's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: got tons of money in hand at fifty three hundred
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: versus seventy five hundred. If you think Joey Burrow goes
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: off and breaks it, that's where those overstacks get super
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: interesting and become more valuable. So hoop, I'll go back
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: to you anything else. If not, Let's talk running back here.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I've got some more takes at the running back position
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: than I do at quarterback, but I think we're all
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: pretty similar at QB.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so obviously it's gonna be you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of Derek Henry people are gonna want him
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: as much as possible. They're huge favorites at home, need
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to win. We already kind of covered it. But he
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: is substantially more expensive than the other guys, so ownership
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I think held in check a little bit. I mean,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: he's gonna get a ton no no dot about on
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a two games slate, but he is substantially more expensive.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: There are some question marks obviously at this position with
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown and whether or not he plays. As it
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: stands now, there's no competition at the top first spend.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: The next closest justin salary overall is Jalen Morn at
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: fifty eight hundred. That is twenty twenty five hundred dollars
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: less than than than Derrick Henry. So there's no competition
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: at the top. If you have a spend at running back,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: it's going it's going to to Derek Henry. But after
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: that is where it gets very interesting. We've already touched
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: on it. It's the biggest talking point on the slate
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown, whether or not he plays. And you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: if you are building with Herbert being in which I
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: don't know. I think you almost you kind of have to.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're doing one, it depends on how
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: you're playing and what sort of contest. If you're doing
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: one fifty, it's hard to build with Chase Brown in
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: and then go backwards, you know. So for me, probably
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: just gonna build with Herbert in and then make the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: adjustments if need be. But you know, if you play Herbert,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get a lot of them. Like if you
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: include him in your your playerpool, you're gonna get a
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: ton of them. He's fifty fifty one dollars. If Brown's out,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: he's gonna get all the work most likely. Uh so
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: he would be massively, massively owned. And if you do
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: need to make pivot to go from Herbert to Chase Brown,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: it is what is it? How much is Chase Brown?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Seventy five seventy six? Yeah, so another twenty five hundred,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: So it's a twenty five hundred. The other way, you
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: got to come up with twenty five hundred in your teams.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: To make it worse, you're probably getting less Jamar Chase,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: You're probably getting less t Higgins, You're probably getting less
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: George Pickens in your teams, but that is very you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: important on the slate. And that's like I said, if
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: you work through this all the way, you could end
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: up with a little bit of an advantage. The one
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: thing that definitely stands out to me is this forming
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: guy coming in like above thirty percent. I mean, the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Browns are projected again to score ten ten points, that's
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: a touchdown in a field goal. Still has to do
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: something on the slate. I know the price is cheap
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: at forty nine, but he's gonna have to outscore the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Steelers guys. If Herbert's in, he's probably gonna have to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: outscore Herbert most likely, I just will be And they
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: could use other guys too. Who's to say that it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: not gonna be this John Kelly guy it gets work.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Who's gonna say, Who's to say it's not going to
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: be this other dude Cabodi, like they have nothing to
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: play for. Foreman coming in at such a high number
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: is something I'm fine being, you know, very underweight on.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, it could potentially even be a
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: fade for me on the slate. Nause Warren, I don't know.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Like whatever I get, I get, like I think I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: probably prefer Warren just because he can get there with
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the pass catching stuff more than Harris. But I mean
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: they are projected to score twenty three, so you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: probably more Warren than than Harris for me, but not
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: super excited about either of those guys. But the true
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: talking point of this position is how you play the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown thing. I'm I kind of think he ends
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: up playing now, but I'm not gonna build teams as
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: if he's playing, if that makes sense. I'll make the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: adjustments after and it'll be some weird looking, awkward teams,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: which is fine, I mean for this sort of thing,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: like if you end up on some weird stuff, if
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you end up with teams that leave a bunch of
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: salary on the table, that's totally fine in this two
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: game slate. So it's gonna be some some weird teams
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: when I have to go in and make the swaps
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: if Chase Brown does play. If he doesn't play, then
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: you can kind of roll with what you have. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's definitely the biggest talking point of
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the slate, the Chase Brown stuff. How you build your teams,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: what you do. And then again we want to work
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: all the way through this slate, not not We're not
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: done at what is it four thirty eastern. You're gonna
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: have to continue on until we get those inactives for
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the for the Bengals game, and that'll be six at
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: six thirty eastern, an hour and a half before. So
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: got to work through it. But the Chase Brown is
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: so super important.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's amazing. I think I like what
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you said earlier. It makes me like the slate more.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It adds a bit of a wrinkle. So before I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: go to you title, I'm gonna talk through just a
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: couple of the chats, getting to some of them already,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: but one of them is for sure this like definitely
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: could just play Henry Mitchell. I like Mitchell. He's obviously explosive.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: He could get there on one play even and be
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: ahead of a lot of these guys that could be
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: way ahead of you know, your people in the afternoon
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that era people in late game. I should say that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: have the Steelers guys or one of them and they're like,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: oh shit, now I got to overcome Keaton Mitchell too.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: So those guys as a different way to cut into
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the Ravens d being popular which is popular for good reason,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because not only should they get after you know, sorry
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: as points scored, but we don't play them for that necessarily,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: it's opportunities and they should feast again. So I can
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: see that he talks about eleven carries in a blow up.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I don't believe this ownership. I know every site has it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I check around the industry too, but I don't believe
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the Herbert ownership. I just don't. There's Henry. There's Herbert,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: who is getting pushed like crazy. If you're looking at
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: some other stuff out there, there is both of nause
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and uh.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Are you talking Foreman?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, and just yeah, I should say this my
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: bad Khalil Herbert. So that's I'm actually gonna go to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Foreman on this conversation. Thank you. I don't believe the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Foreman ownership, to be clear, and that is for Cleveland.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I don't see how people need it. They have fifty
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: one dollars Herbert, who they play with or without the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown News, Nase other you know, obviously Derek Henry
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is gonna be popular. Jalen Warren all these things. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: will say. The Foreman play is ugly, but the Ravens
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: notoriously lazy after they get big leads. Their discipline is atrocious.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: If you've been a fan or know this from many
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: years of watching them, it's so bad. The problem is
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: what Hoop said, What if it's John Kelly Junior or
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: someone random fur their squad. But I could definitely see
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a passer interference and stuff down the stretch and things
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that lead to these tuts like where they he could
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: get in. I just don't know if it'll even be
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: needed or enough, but I wanted to bring that up.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And then, lastly, the Chase Brown thing. I'm gonna say
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: it again. I will definitely build in sets. There's two
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: ways to do it. You build with Chase Brown in.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: The reason it's important for this is because if you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: build without Chase Brown at all, if you think he's playing,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: you are gonna get more Zay Flowers. You're gonna get
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: more Pickens, Bateman sings. You can still make swaps later,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: but the big ones early on will be more Henry
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and more Zay Flowers and more Mark Andrews. If those
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: guys don't hit and your lineups look like that and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: he doesn't play well, you still have Herbert. You don't
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: have the alternatives, the Chase Brown lineups would lead you
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to have potentially Bateman's, Wallace's, Likely's, Keaton, Mitchell's, things like that,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: where you would have different lineups that could have already
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: got some stuff early on your favor. The alternative way
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: is to what Hoop said, build with him out use Herbert.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But I would still build some of those lineups, capping
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: my salary so that I not only have the room
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to move, but I also don't just get the obvious
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Herbert lineups that everybody else gets. Were like the breath
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of fresh air. When Chase Brown is ruled out, well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you might still have dead lineups from the early on
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: because you didn't have some of these lower owned, cheaper
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: plays title I'll kick it to you. Anything else at
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: running backer, any additional thoughts there.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I might build actually with just Chase Brown in I
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: do like your idea of the sets. That's something you've
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: always done. That's something I'm not as good as. So
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know if today's the day I really want
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: to try. But him going through walk through that you
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: put the tweet in our discord. He's gonna go through
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: pregame warmups. They need to win, like I would just
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: expect him not even have gone through walk through yesterday. Again,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I have no clue what's going on. I just saw
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: that report. They need to win the game, so I
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: might build that way regardless. I know I want a
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: ton of King Henry. If five one hundred percent, I'm
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: totally fine with that. I'm definitely on hoop side about
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the Dante Foreman stuff, but I definitely agree with you.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I think the ownership across the industry is too high
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna come down. But I still think he stinks.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: And with the spread and everything, fade or underweight, I
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: mean for sure underweight. For me, I'm debating hitting the
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: fade button, depending hommy lineups I play. I love your
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Keith Mitchell call. I think he's a very very strong,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: interesting low own play because if they're gonna win by
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: twenty one or whatever the spread is, like he got
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: eleven carries in that game, like Allen said, five plays,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: it could take him to break it, and he's in
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: a tier of his own, kind of like competing against
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the tight ends kind of A lot of too are
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: too tight on builds today, but not many are going
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: there at the running back position.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: If you do go three running backs. That's an interesting
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: way to do it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: And again, just say Chase Brown is playing Henry Chase
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Brown Mitchell teams or something like that, Lamar Mitchell, Henry
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Mitchell or.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: There's just so many different ways you can do it with.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I do think they blow him out.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think Harball runs the starters in the ground
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter if they are up that much.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: So I definitely love that Mitchell's call out. And then
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: because I.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Don't like Foreman, I guess I'm forced to play Nase
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: and Jalen Warren. It's not like these The Bengals defense
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: is good. I do like Burrow. You can play them
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: in both ways. Burrow they get up a ton, Warren's trailing,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh jumps out early nause pounds two in. Burrow has
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: to throw it a bunch on the other side, so
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: almost almost all in on King Henry.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna build like Chase Brown plays.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: If he doesn't, I will have a lot of teams
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: leading fifteen hundred to three thousand, because almost all that
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Brown is going to Khalil Herbert. But again I don't
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: see too much of a drop up. I think Helol
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Herbert's good. Yes, I think Chase Brown's better. But even
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: if Chase Brown plays, I don't think he's one hundred percent.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: So is it an equal projection? Maybe not, but I'm
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: gonna kind of be forced to go that way. And again,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: you have Nause the Warrens of the world. So how
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I got it easily? King, Henry, I think I'm building
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: with Chase Brown. Gonna have to be overweight on the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Warren Nause stuff. After I'm done, I want you to
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: talk about playing them together. It's a two games slate.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Obviously you can, but would that just be a full
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: game stack? And that want to be shorter on the
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: other one. I'm curious your thoughts. I hate Foreman, and yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Keith and Mitchell, I think is the interesting one down below.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not playing Kelly Patterson any of those guys.
• 28:42
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• 28:45
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• 29:38
  Speaker 2: makes sense. He's a onesie position. It fills it off.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen some builds I've done. I've gone through a
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  Speaker 2: how they get there. No builds lead to Cleveland Browns.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It's just it besides Akins. So we'll see.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Hope you I hope you're I want those numbers possible.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: What about the Nausea Warren stuff.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Obviously you can play two together the same, but like
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: just your thoughts, how would that get there? Obviously the
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: running back position boss, but in my head, it feels
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: like you're jamming that second game hoping the first game
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: is pretty much around twofold.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I actually like it. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: one up because I think the original one is easy
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to talk about it. Henry Mitchell with the Ravens d.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: The nice thing about Mitchell is he's lower owned, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: he slices into both of their ownership. Certainly a way
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: that you could go. Then you could even pick a
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: stack and say, okay, Bengals crush. That allows you to
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: fit all the Bengals you want, and then maybe a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: one off somewhere else. To your point, though, how does
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Warren Harris go. You don't have to put it with
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the D, but you could. You could say Steelers just
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: crush those guys, and you could still use a one
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: off of like a Higgins against the Steelers who catches
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: enough balls and a touchdown still whatever, and then overload
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the Ravens smash spot. But I think a lot of
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: what you brought up outside of that one, because that's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the other way to use it, is just to overstack
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: that game itself, the Warren Harris hit. Maybe you have
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a bunch of the Bengal stuff on the other side
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and just the Ravens D. But I will say there's
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of mini just you alas say, like there's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: levels to a title, like there's extra things that don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: seem like they go together that most certainly do. And
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not stuck on this Foreman play because I agree
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: with you guys like he's already trash. There's other backups.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: But if you were using Foreman, I wouldn't mind something
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like Foreman with Chase Brown. This is Galaxy brain stuff.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But it's the point is if you're using a forty
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars running back, that really hurts a fifty
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: one hundred dollars Herbert. If you're building the titles point
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that Chase Brown is in, you've got those two. Now
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: you can overload lamar zay It' said like you're piecing
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: these games together on how it would actually go. That's
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: how people put themselves in position to make it happen.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So that's one thing. And then the other thing is
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: if you're going there, how many people are gonna have
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown with Derrick Henry together again, you have the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: money to do it, but then that's probably gonna lead
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to Wilson Stack and so on and so forth because
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: nobody's playing Zapy, So lots of different ways you can
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: mix it around, but be thinking about what you're doing
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: when you're building.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now I'm kind of like going and this
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: thought kind of just ran through my head too with
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: the Chase Brown stuff, because like there's no I mean,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: he's definitely not one hundred percent, Like there's no way
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: he's gonna come out and be one hundred percent like
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: full go for this game, Like if he is active
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: and in play, Like what do you guys think about
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: them just splitting between like Herbert and Chase Brown, Like
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: like I do think that that there's a chance that
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: is in play, Like there's no way if he plays,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: he gets all the work at running back like he's
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: been getting a lot of people go and make that
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: swap and flip him. And then he's got to beat
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: some real dudes. He's gotta, you know, compete with Derrick Henry,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown, t Higgins, Ze Flowers, George Pickens. He's got
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: to beat at least a couple of those guys in
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: terms of raw fantasy points. We know a lot of
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: people will fly up over to of them, Like I
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: don't know like that this thought up peer just now
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: is kind of run your head.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: That is bang on. But my takeaway from it is
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: still from what you said earlier, the challenge of if
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you build with him, if you're comfortable just fading him,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: which if you were, let's say, and you build with
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: full salary cap, you are going to get Zay Flowers,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Derek Henry's, all these guys. If one of those guys busts, yeah, cool,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you still have Herbert and you're good and you feel
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: good about your decision, but you may not put yourself
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: in that position. So just build with Herbert. But I
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: would cap some lineups at like forty eight five or
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: forty seven to five, so that you almost get the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Herbert edition. Forty seven to five is twenty five hundred less,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: same price difference from those two where you're able to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: get some different lineups and builds that also you've already
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: xd out Chase Brown's I like to call it's just
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I think what you do with it. That extra preparation
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: could come in handy.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Let's say we don't have any news that we have
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: the same news right now after the first game, which
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: is nothing. What is Chase Brown's ownership that they say
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Chase Brown's active, He's starting today.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: The minute he plays, you mean like as soon as
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: they announce he's in.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the the Baltimore games already going on, so
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: it's after that hiding.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Henry's going to be high on all this stuff, Like what.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: What is That's what I would say as I say
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty five, I mean that's the on the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: two games.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Like that's the appeal for me, Like the ownership with
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I mean he's minus one zero five is scre agan?
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: A lot of that stuff is definitely the odds aren't
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the true odds, But I mean, who knows. At the
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: end of the day, it's just the eighteen to twenty
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: percent whatever it is for a running back like that
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: is the appeal on such a low slide.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: But the latter part of this statement too. I know
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: we focused on the original, but I don't. I'm a
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: title earlier on the other stuff. Tomlin his boys regardless,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: uh you know, TJ Watt, all this other like they
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: have a team there that's gonna go out and be
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: able to do something. I don't know. If the Bengals
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: go into Pittsburgh and just roll up fourteen early on,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I think they win the game. I think we get
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the fun stuff tomorrow with Kansas City needing to beat
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Denver with backups, and I think it's Miami has to.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I forget the exact breakdown of the Sincy scenario, but
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I think we get that if I'm betting. I like
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the Bengals here, but I just don't know if it's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be a complete blowout. And again, a lot of
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: people are over stacking and building towards that. Our optimizer
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: ship Demizer and the projections are building towards that. So
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: tough to say. What would happen there. But I think
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: who mixing both of their points there, there's ways that
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you can build it out. I think if we get
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: like a Chase Brown is one, he's not one hundred percent,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: But if they say something like he did the workout,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: he feels fine, he's gonna give it, he's gonna go,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and it's not give it a go, such a different
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: in the wordplay there difference where then I think more
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: people do pivot that have the money because so many
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: people have guys in the second game left over. That's
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: like I said, I don't believe the Cleveland ownership. Even
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the Ravens love people don't like overstacking it because it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: really hard to figure out. You feel like there's a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: mine trapped somewhere, like if I go too far with it,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna step on the mine and blow up. So
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: it's tricky. With the Ravens. Overstacks, people will have room
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to pivot and to Hoops point just holding strong and saying, yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I got the money, but I might just stay on
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Herbert at this point. That's where you could get away
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: with it later and to your point title, what if
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: he is eighteen percent, Well, now you've got a really
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: good running back that if he is anywhere near you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: or it has a good game even it could be
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: trouble for the field. So it does add a nice
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: wrinkle to the slate.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Was was that another sports bet recommendation because the last
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: one worked out pretty well? You're on the Lions. Lions
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: got the job done.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, Bengal.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, putting your putting the streak on the line.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, there's no way this is built in drama for
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: what's up coming. This is this is for sure happening.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: All right. I fired live on the show last time.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: It worked out. Well. I'm about to about to do
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: this deal again too.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: If the Steelers lose, they play the Ravens in round one. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I wish you'd parlay that too, because it'll be in
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Baltimore now and they won't lose like they did the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: first game of the season to Pittsburgh and they did
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: find the second game. But the Ravens always come through
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: in round one. It's gonna be round two or something
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: else where they deteriorate. So I'm putting two bets out
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: there right now. It's Bengals win today, it's Ravens beat
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the Steelers in the playoffs. Starting at strong here, Hoopster.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: But take Ravens Packers plus sixty five hundred Ravens beat
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: the pack in the super Bowl.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I would love that super Bowl. By the way,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: that would actually be already. I don't think it's happening, though,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I will say, but that's good for your your bet
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: because that's no Lions.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: That would be a week of torture for Hoopster. Not
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: only did the Lions not get in, you get your Packers,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Tambo gets his Ravens. I lose five hundred dollars to
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: t I might disappear, you got, oh hoop on vacation
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: super Bowl.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: I'll pga Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Hoops out smelling the prostent. Terra's out in the lawn,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: got a pack at a Rose Sparks, ready to go.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: He's not paying no attention to football my mind.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Bush in the corner exactly.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Talk to us about these wide receivers, though, hoop, because
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you know a lot to we We already talked a
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: little bit about the Browns and whether or not the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: ownership gets there. It's clear none of us really love
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that spot. I guess Judy could just get a bunch
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: of targets, and that's what people are hoping for based
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: on some of the other injuries. But I feel like
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: when we get to tight end, it's Jordan Akens that
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: we see as the guy that actually gets the ownership.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: But talk to us about wide receiver.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: First, Yeah, I think much more clear and pretty straightforward
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: opposed like the other positions. Like at quarterback, we talked about,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: you know, Russell Wilson being more popular essentially than Lamar
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and Burrow, and then we got the Chase Chase Brown
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: stuff at running back. At wide receiver, it's it's pretty
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: clear and straightforward, like Jamar Chase highest projected guy. Easy
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to play him, we have some value. The pricing isn't
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: very tough. Everyone's gonna want to go there. T Higgins
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: is in, you know. I do like what title always says,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: it is easier to kind of just go by teams
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: when you get to wide receiver. So I'm gonna kind
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: of follow in his footsteps, and I'm just gonna start
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: with the Bengals, you know, Chase Higgs, and then I
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: do want a lot of Yosi Vosh continue to play
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: him at four K assuming rob Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: called back with the Borough. I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: going right back to him. I mean I just think
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: they passed it a ton, So I want a bunch
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: of him. And when we get to tight end, like
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: my favorite tight end on the slate is from the Bengals,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: it's going to be Jasecki. So I want all these
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: pass casters, Chase T Higgins, Yosi Vosh, I want them all.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: On the Steelers side, it's you know, George Pickens for sure.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I do like Pickens on the slate. I mean anytime
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks just willing to give the wide receiver opportunities
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: deep down the field, like multiple times per game, Like
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I want it for sure, So I'm in on him.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Kelvin Austin moderately interested in uh in the other game though,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: like we talked about it with with the brown stuff,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: like Judy's showing big ownership. I I don't know. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: guess I'm kind of somewhere in between the projections in Tambo,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: like in the middle, because I do think some of
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it is real, Like people are people love playing past
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: catchers from teams that are projected to be playing from behind.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Now the situation is a little more extreme. They're projected
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: to be playing way from behind with the spread coming
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: in at like twenty right now. I hope the Judy
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: stuff is there because I'll take all the other pass
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: catchers around him over him Elijah Moore at thirty eight hundred.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I'd just rather play him, and he is
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: getting some ownership, but I definitely like more over Judy
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: and then the Ravens. I mean, it's really just two
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: guys they Flowers and and Bateman, and I'm fine with
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: both of them playing on playing a lot of them are,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: so those guys are going to be featured in a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: lot of my lineups. So and even with the Ravens,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: like you don't necessarily have to play like you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Aguilar or Wallace, like to me, like Isaiah likely is
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the you know, wide receiver three over those dudes. So yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: straightforward position. I mean, the only funky thing for me
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: is Judy, and I hope that ownership remains high.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yess. The only thing is that people are gonna, you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: trying to be making these pivots off of Pickens and say, Flowers,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: he does slice up the middle, but what people are
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: seeing is the ownership's not that much of a discount.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think the optimizer tells the story, and I think
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: get we see a bunch more Pickens, we see a
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: bunch say Flowers. The ownership still shows that, so it
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: can't go too much higher. We know Jamar Chase is
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: going to be popular, easy to fit on this slate.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: The Russell Wilson part tells that story all those things
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: and more. But speaking of more, it's what you said's
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Elijah Moore. The one thing interesting about him as well.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: He's the lowest of the bunch anyway, I don't fully
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: believe it. So even it comes in lower, the better.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It's wanting to give us a number around what I
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: think he could come in at. And he's the perfect
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: pivot because the guy I think that's getting the ownership
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: on this team is a similar price point at tight end.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I like a lot more tight ends than Aikins on
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: this slate, So I'd be happy if I was getting
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: a Cleveland pass catcher to get it moved over to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, if I even have a Brown on my team.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of the setup I'm looking at here.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I think the rest of it stands true. T Higg
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: should get some bumps, you know, as the day goes on.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Calvin Austin, I think, and I also really like Rashad Bateman.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I just you can play him with Zay and hope
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: that Zay still picks up enough catches, or you could
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: leverage off Zay. I think again, it's gonna be downfield,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: big catches. I think we get to tight end likely
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: as well Mar Andrews or likely is fine, but Bateman,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: those guys that can get separation, get loose, get out there.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: That could be how these points run up quick early
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: on and what shuts down and stops some of the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: other stuff, you know beyond like the one rushing touchdown
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that we know Henry's getting for sure. Title kick it
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: over to you.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's really clear.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I don't have too much more to add the people
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: we have projected under twenty five percent, and that'll be
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: on the field, Bateman, Yoshi Vas, Calvin Austin.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be probably overweight on all Elijah More we
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: have down there too.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I won't be playing Zappi while I will be playing
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: all the other quarterbacks. But yeah, like Calvin Austin four
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: point one k five targets the past three games, all
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: solid scores, A little explosive. I like that game a lot.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Kelvin Austin is someone that can speed it up a bit.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Bateman with the Lamar stuff will be pretty low owned
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Yoshi bas like we added, yeah, the Judy Pickins, zay Flowers.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: I do think yeah, I don't know. I'm I don't
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: know what to do with the ownership either. I definitely
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: agree with you. I think the Browns ownership is hot
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: across the industry.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: But I do think Judy will be played because Zapi
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: is an upgrade. Judy's targets have been great. They will
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: be throwing, whereas like the zay Flowers, everyone wants King Henry.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: They see that. So I don't really know what.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: To make of the ownership of those three guys, though,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I think Pickens in my favorite.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: He's definitely a knucklehead, but there's no doubt about that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: But man, they love throwing it deep like any go routes,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson will just chucked it up to him.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: If someone were out score Chase at the wide receiver room.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, Higgins is projected better, but man, I think
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Pickens would be the random outlier that can absolutely nuke
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: the slate. So no, really hot tastes, so I'm not
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: playing like Van Jefferson or Mike Williams or Agelaar. I
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: think four receivers will be decently low on. I think
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of two tight end builds is popular, so
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I definitely will embrace four receivers and tournaments with the
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: upside there.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: But I really think there's only eight in play.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Chase Higgins, Pikets, Austin, Zay Flowers, Bateman, Judy, Elijah Moore,
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: actually Yoshibas two's that'd be nine.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: That's all it's in my pool.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one last thing I'll say, just because you
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: know we're always adapting our game over here at Shippen Nation.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I know who You've talked about it in the past.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: You know, from cash games and high stakes small fields
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: up to playing the one fifty sets and literally winning
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: a million maker in a one to fifty max tournament
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and title. You've got cash games that you still play
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: in high level, but you also play a ton in
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: these large field tournaments. I've been looking and working a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: little bit more looking at sims. I haven't spent a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: ton of time on these in the past, but spending
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: more time looking at sims and that's one thing I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: noticed I can get ideas from and to bring him
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: across the sims don't really like Judy today, and I've
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: noticed that that tends to push things a little bit
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: one way. Though that's the only reason I'm a little
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: bit lower on his own ownership. I could see Elijah
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Moore still coming in there some I can see Calvin
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Austin getting a boost because he's in that second game
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and fits those stacks. People won't like Jefferson or Big
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Mike Williams or whatever. They just can't do anything. They
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: haven't done enough to make it happens. It's too random
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and rare. So some people will play them, sure, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: they're not going to get as much love. I just
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: don't see it happening as much, so I think more
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: and aikens and you already talked about going to the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: tight end spot here title, so maybe I'll stay with you.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: But I agree two tight end is going to be
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a lot more popular than four wide receivers, so I
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: think that's a great extra call out there.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Also, I mean it makes sense the highest tight end
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: or price tight end is four pointy five, Mark Andrews,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: we have Henry you want to play in the slate.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: We have Jamar Chase who want to play in the slates.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: That is a lot of the reason why Russell Wilson
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: is getting owned too, because Burrow Lamar is so much
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: higher owned and Chase it Henry's projections is so much
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: higher than the rest.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean the achin Suftwich stands out the most.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: And again, maybe like us having.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Six hundred and forty people watching, more people watch later,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: maybe other shows are saying the same thing. There's always
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: a point where ownership dips enough where then he actually
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: is a solid play. I don't think we dictate the
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: industry that much, but just what I'm seeing projected ownership.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Now, there's a million other guys are.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Playing tight end, likely not a million, but likely who's
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: lower owned Kissecki, wh I like Fried and Moth, Why
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: like Andrews?
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Why like the Tanner? Hudson is the world.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I really need to get there,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: but he is actually an athletic tight end. Like I'm
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: not playing Drew Sample, that dude does nothing, but Hudson
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: actually can catch the ball and move upfield. Probably not
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: going to go there, but he's two point five k
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: which is in a tier of his own. If I
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: were to play someone like that, I would not leave
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: over five hundred dollars for the upgrade to Akins. I'd
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: get on a unique build. But I likely's not getting ownership.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Give me all of them. Andrews Friar with Cassette.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I will say in terms of our ownership, we
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: are pretty light. I'd say in this position overall, I
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: don't think we're taking into account how many teams are
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: going to be double tight end like we're like, I
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: definitely think we're light on the position. Overall. I think
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: everyone's coming in substantially higher than we're showing here.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is me also as my fault too because
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I ran this before this morning, like I want to
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: have it up and ready for the show. We have
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: hours to go. There's gonna be an update coming, just
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: talk to editors. So I'm worried about us having adjusted.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: But just like tomorrow, guys, good call out hoop actually
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: that I'm gonna bring this now, Like people freak out
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: about stuff, and it's like, man, it's not against them
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: just to say it in general, but it's like tomorrow,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: so much is going to change on the main spot
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: that if you're building teams tonight, you're literally just wasting time.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I look ahead, you can prepare. I shouldn't say that
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: you can build teams tonight. I will. I'll prepare, but
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be locking anything in tonight. We
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: talked what was it hoop? The other day someone asked
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: us how many optimizer runs and people were talking about
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: five or six runs. We're like five or six, Like
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: we were like seventy five when someone else came in
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and said, like seventy five, that's light work. And so
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you are going to be running things more and have
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: to account for these things. But that's the benefit of
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: going through this and see what it looks like early.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: So I will say I've run zero for the main slate,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: and I don't intend on doing anything until probably late
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: late tonight. It's just not where there's gonna be a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: lot of news. There's gonna be a lot of news
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: at eleven thirty Eastern tomorrow that that changes things. So
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: tomorrow is uh is a big day to follow the news.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Obviously you have a hit on the tight ends.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, well, Jordan's ownership is akin
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to his price tag I would be more likely to
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: play Isaiah. Yeah, if you want to put all the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: wordplay together, but go ahead, you take it over.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to make sure you had the stage
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: clear to drop.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Your my one liner. You know, I had to get that.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like a two liner. You have
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: like multiple pieces to that one. I I mean, I
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: like the tight ends a lot, like Joseki coming off
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: like a twelve target game. Mark Andrews just continues to
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: catch touchdowns and like I'm I'm I guess I'm kind
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: of surprised he's not like the highest owned guy at
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: this position or coming in with higher ownership. I mean,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: it's the team that's projected to score thirty he's caught
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: a touchdown in It's a crazy number of games here.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: It's I know, at least five straight games one, two, three, four, five,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: six out of seven, eight out of ten and then
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: a two touchdown game. And well, I mean he's got
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: ten touchdowns this season. They've all come in the last
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: ten weeks. Like, really like Mark Andrews here today. I
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: think he's a phenomenal, phenomenal play on this lad. He's
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: a little more expensive than the rest of the position,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: which I like, I don't know. I like all these guys.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I guess I mean Friarmouth, Jasecki, Andrews, I like likely,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Like I said, he's probably like I view him as
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver three in that offense. Tanner Hudson I'm
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: fine with. But the one I'm you know, least likely
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: to be overweight on. There you go is.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I guess like that is a good point. And what
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I use. You know, we talk about this all the time,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: people that don't know we need an optimizer. If I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: playing one fifty while I hit on this so much,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm looking at though, like Derrick Henry,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: we're getting almost sixty percent. So is the field and
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: we know why we like it. But Mark Andrews at
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: forty five hundred, the optimizer wants to give us nothing. Yes,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: he has way more ownership, so that it's taking a
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: stand against him. I get that. But to Hoop's point,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: who's most likely to hurt Derrick Henry? Also, of course
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: they can both get there together on a two gamer.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: But if he gets two touchdowns, that's two touchdowns. Dereck
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Henry doesn't run in what if he gets there on
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: some catches through the air too, and all the other
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: stuff that leads to it, and then the Ravens get
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: up too much and Henry's not in. So when you're
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: thinking about your builds, even for a single entry handbuild,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: as you sit there put the pieces together to make
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: it make sense, that's a possibility that you could look at.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: So I like your call, Hoop, I am still in
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: on Isaiah Likely. Who do you think title going to
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you on this one? Now?
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Is it gonna be like Likely in Andrews or would
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: it be Gasicki and Hudson or something where you're seeing
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: more double tight end or maybe even friar Mouth watching.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: It's got to be Andrew's likely.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone wants to mess with Sample or
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Hudson or the Washingtons.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Of the world. But I think I don't know.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say Hudson's a little little interesting. Again,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: I would leave five hundred. There's just no other viable play.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: I guess you could say Washington Sample, I think Hudson's
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: above them, but there's just no one that's viable at
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: two point five K, which is the only reason I
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: did mention him, I would not again not leave any
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: more than four hundred dollars with any Hudson sample Washington
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: team just because of Aikins right there, Like you're already
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: getting different enough. I don't want to parlay them outscoring
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Akins if they missed my point one, well, there's gonna
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: be a million people above you on the train.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: I don't need to play the one v one game.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: But I do think it's Andrews likely as the most.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: But like you said, it's not gonna be crazy own
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: like how many people want to go lamar Andrews likely
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: and then ed like, I don't think people are just
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: jamming jamming Ravens.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: They'll jam the second game to over stacking more so
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: all of it.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one quick additional note because who made me think
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: about it The more he talks about Mark Andrews is
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: like Andrews and Gseki can break the slate. Of course
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: somebody else could too. I'm just saying, like, when you
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: look at that position, when people are doing these two
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: tight end builds, and it's gonna be with Aikens and
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: likely for example, just to get all that money back
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't come through on the other spots. And
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: it is tight end where you need someone. Look at
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Gaseeki's game last week, look at what he talked about
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: with Andrews. If a guy like I just mentioned he
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: gets two touchdowns or something, Lamar Andrews lineups are going
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: to take over and fill it out that way. So
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's something to think about as well. Especially
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: on a two gamer, you always got to consider that
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: at the onesie positions, who can really shut down a
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: slate quickly? And to Hoop's point, I think it's Mark Andrews,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: yet he's being held in check somewhat. So anything else
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: you want to add their Hoop, if not quick take
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: on the defenses and we'll go from there.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, nothing else to add, Like definitely like the
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: defense or tight ends defenses crazy. I mean you look
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: at the Ravens defense, and I mean the biggest defense
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: projection probably of the season. They're gonna be massively owned.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: So if you do anything besides the Ravens at defense,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be a little bit different than the field.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Like no one's obviously gonna play the Browns and then
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get a little bit on the Bengals and Steelers.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: But anything outside the Ravens is gonna be different. I
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: mean they're at home favored by twenty facing Bailey's app It's,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: you know, appears to be a slam dunk situation. But
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: as always, I mean, there is high variance at the
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: defense position, like there definitely is, So I do want
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: to mix in some Bengals and Steelers for sure, but man,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: it just seems like, you know, the best possible spot
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: for a defense. And it's not like they're forty five
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: hundred or anything. They're they're thirty five hundred. But the
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: ownership is definitely clearly going to follow.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dumb price, but it is what it is. And
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: like you said, I think the Bengals Steelers spot is
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: good and you can go against them, like you can
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: definitely still play a bunch of guys against if the Steelers,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Like if the Ravens don't do much besides the points,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: then there is ways that they can get out done.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: It could be sacks and a quick scoop and score
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: pick six or something from that Steelers side who can
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: be ferocious.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I know, I got the band and at home against
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: a team that you know is going to pass the
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: ball a ton, like the Bengals are going to pass
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: the ball, and yes, Joe Burrow's been great. Pittsburgh can
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: be a difficult place to play in. The Steelers defense
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: is good. That's probably my second favorite.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also too the leverage of what are we
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: talking about? The whole slate's been talked about, Herbert or
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown or who do they pivot to or all that,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: you know, who's on the opposite side. Again, you can
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: play them against each other on a two gamer, but
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: most people don't, especially higher dollar or smaller field stuff
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: or both. So title I kick could do any further thoughts,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: but that's just my additional piece to it anyways, just
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: a way to think of it.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: No, I yeah, I agree, I think that. I mean,
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: I think I'm going to x the Browns.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say that for sure, and I
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: have a trickle, but I really don't see it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: If anything, it's the price.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: They're five hundred cheaper than the next cheapest is the Steelers.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: So if that five hundred goes a long way gets
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: you on a different roster construction, I still think it's
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: an awful play.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: Steelers at home TJ.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Watt can pin their ears back, not a great o
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: line for the Bengals opposite side Russell Wilson. You just
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: saw it against the Chiefs. He loves a dance around
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: back there Bingals get pressure. One random play can change everything.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I'm an ex Brown, so I
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: can at least get a little overweight around the field
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: on Bengals Steelers.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: But no hot take there, and I will say, actually
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: want to throw to you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: You can tambell you very rarely, I think fade people
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: like that and more so be hoop. But the optimal
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: leverage on the Browns defense on the Stone definitely stood
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: out to me. So just any quick thoughts on Browns.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I was gonna add them. It's funny, yer, now you
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: know me so well as you kick it back. I
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: was because you said the word trickle, and I'll definitely
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: let them trickle. But it's more going to be something
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I'll graze over and make sure it's the right way.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: But the interesting thing about them is it's what I
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: always say, if you're not on a Josh Allen, a Mahomes,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: a Lamar, a Jalen Hurts, if you're not on those quarterbacks,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with having the d Now you can played
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: against them on a two gamer, but I like this spot.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: If you want to overload that second game land on
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the Browns, it could be it's just so tricky so
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: it won't be very much, but that did stand out.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I think there's a way higher likelihood of the Steelers
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Bengals beating the super Chalk because there's so much throwing.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Like you talked about those teams. Another thing you can
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: look at on the stone, look at the passing for
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the Bengals and then think about the Steelers everything you
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: said about Wilson, also the checkdowns to Warren. All it
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: takes is a flick off of his hand and a
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: pickoff of that whoops. It's not even their fault, but
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: it helps us a lot to have the Bengals D
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: in that spot. So Bengals D and Steelers D are
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: right there with a close to positive leverage call in
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: their own right at a better number, so it'll be
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: very limited. Browns. What good call out by you had
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: something to look at. It's more Ravens and then I'll
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: probably underweight on the Ravens to get Bengals and Steelers
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: in there because I like both those spots.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: Hoop, are you hitting the next spot on the Browns.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Most likely, Yes, yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: just gonna get I just play the Ravens as much
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: as possible, and then Bengals Steelers, which I kind of
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: think I prefer the Steelers over the Bengals, but we'll
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: see how it goes. Yeah, I won't be playing the
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Browns teeth all right?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: What about on FanDuel Hoop anything you want to add
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: over there?
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Kind of let's see, let's pull that up and see
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: where we're at, just to kind of talk through it quickly.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Looks really similar, Yeah, it looks very similar. At at
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: quarterback ownership. The quarterback is easier to spend up. I
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: think that's always going to be easier to spend up.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: You got Jackson at nine k, Burrow eighty six, and
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: then Russell Wilson seventy three, so not much there. We
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: got Herbert so Derreck Henry up to ten k makes
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: it probably a little more difficult. And then you got
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Jalen Warren cheaper than Najie Harris four hundred dollars cheaper,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: so that's a little bit interesting. And then the Keith
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Mitchell play all the way down at forty eight by
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: the way, Yeah, imagine that fifty nine, so a little
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: bit he's in there. More so with the UH Steelers
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: guys Zay Flowers under seven k. I think is pretty interesting.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: T Higgins looks a little more expensive over there on FanDuel.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Elijah Moore forty eight hundred definitely stands out. Mark Andrews
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: priced up on FanDuel sixty four hundred secy fifty three,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: so like a eleven hundred dollars difference there. And then
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: the defense they yeah, their cap price at defense is
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: five K, and that's where the Ravens are at and
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: then everyone else is like four cambelows. Yeah, pretty similar.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Like title said, not too many standouts.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Man, it's pretty close too. I guess that just made
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: me think of something on FanDuel where they're priced up.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Higgins and Andrews look pretty interesting. And that's another thing
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I look at sort of preparing for slates like these,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: like on one side, if they're not doing it, but
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: they're doing it on the other. But if you go
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: over to DraftKings and I'll kick a tw title if
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: you have any FanDuel thoughts or just tying this together,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: but it's pretty close it's not quite a two two,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: but like Jamar Chase likely is likely to be more
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: popular than t Higgins Andrews, and you're very close in
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: that range. And that's guys that can get that's four.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: That could be four touchdowns right there, two to Andrews
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: and two to Higgins. And that's quite a difference, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: it's kind of what people are hoping for. People are
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: actually hoping in the other side of it, They're hoping
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: for two Jamar Chase touchdowns and like whatever they can
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  Speaker 2: get out of Likely versus you could literally have three
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  Speaker 2: or four touchdowns out of those other two guys pretty
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  Speaker 2: quickly as well. So I don't know if you have
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  Speaker 2: anything to add on that type of stuff title, but
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  Speaker 2: anything else on FanDuel on top of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, those are two of the things that stood out,
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  Speaker 4: the Higgins and the Andrews. Like Andrews is way above
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  Speaker 4: the rest. People rather go the Gaseki's the likely is
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  Speaker 4: the Friar moves spend up.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, who just said ten touchdowns in eight games
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  Speaker 5: or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: It's a one zie position, And yeah, Chase is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be one of the higher on guys on the slate.
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  Speaker 4: You could it's not my favorite way to go about it.
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  Speaker 4: But Higgins cannot score, Jamar Chase, it's happened. Twelve hundred
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  Speaker 4: bucks again, you don't mean the one v one, but
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  Speaker 4: the ownership discount will be pretty big. And then yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Henry's all the way up at ten k. He's gonna
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  Speaker 4: get ownership. But it does make it harder. Just shows
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  Speaker 4: otherwise pretty similar. Easier to spend up at quarterback. But
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  Speaker 4: I do like the Higgins.
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  Speaker 2: Andrews shll yeah, I think that's it title. Any final
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck. I mean, definitely monitor that news throughout
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