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Ep. 402 - The Blair Witch Project (1999) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Tumbleweeds and TV Cowboys. My name
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  Speaker 2: is Hunter. In this podcast, I'll be joined by a
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  Speaker 2: different guest each week to discuss a classic Western movie
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  Speaker 1: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 1: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy the show. Welcome back to Framers Podcast. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 3: Austin Proctor, and joining me today for episode 402 is
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  Speaker 3: my good friend, Corey Johnson. Heyo, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: I kicked that fucking map into the creek earlier today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so happy you chose that one. That's the best.
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  Speaker 3: That's definitely the best. Because they could have taken the
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  Speaker 3: easy route with the, you know, we're lost in the
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  Speaker 3: woods or I'm sorry. No, that was peak. That was
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  Speaker 3: a peak intro from Corey.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably my favorite line of the movie because it's
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  Speaker 4: just delivered with The most absolute cynicism somebody can.
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  Speaker 3: And he's cackling too. It's so funny. Today on the
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  Speaker 3: first installment of Warlocktober's Hex, we're discussing our essential pick,
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  Speaker 3: the Blair Witch Project from 1999. We're really, the Blair
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  Speaker 3: Witch is a friend we made along the way. So
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  Speaker 3: let's hop in and see where this lands on the
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  Speaker 3: Nightmare Index. Oh, okay. I don't even know. So this
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  Speaker 3: is how fucked everything is. I haven't edited Death Ship yet.
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  Speaker 3: It's Wednesday. Episodes are supposed to go out on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: And now I'm already recording The Blair Witch for next week.
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  Speaker 3: So like I just said a minute ago, I am
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  Speaker 3: ahead and behind at the same time. I have the
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  Speaker 3: Halloween episode to edit, the Resident Evil episode to edit.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking don't even, I can't, just don't, no one bother
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  Speaker 3: me today. I'm unavailable forever. Corey, take my calls. Anyways,
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  Speaker 3: what have you been watching as of, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: only been like a week-ish or so, but.
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  Speaker 4: Watched anything good? I really haven't watched anything. I've been
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  Speaker 4: going down the rabbit hole of listening to our old
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  Speaker 4: episodes just for a fun remember when, and it's different.
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  Speaker 4: Like our audio quality is different. Our attitudes are much
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  Speaker 4: more wishy-washy. Uh, and it's, uh, man, it's just interesting
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  Speaker 4: to see where we've come, but now I've decided that, uh,
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  Speaker 4: while I wait for the opportunity to see some of
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  Speaker 4: the new October releases that are coming out in theaters,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back and try and rewatch some of
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  Speaker 4: the movies from our old episodes, especially, like, in the
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  Speaker 4: Foreign Frights ones. Well, now, a couple of them, like,
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  Speaker 4: you did The Wailing.
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  Speaker 3: We've obviously now all seen... I talked about The Wailing? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't even seen it then. God, I was such
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  Speaker 3: a bullshitter. Did I review it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for Foreign Frights.
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  Speaker 3: I wish everyone could see the look of absolute fucking...
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think I watched it back then,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know. You said you did.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So just, just to reiterate this foreign frights episode, um,
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  Speaker 4: I did three movies. You did three movies and then
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  Speaker 4: we did two movies that we watched together. It's like
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  Speaker 4: a two hour and 13 minute episode.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm either a bullshitter because I had Letterboxd. The
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  Speaker 3: second we started the show in 2019, I had Letterboxd.
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  Speaker 3: Foreign Frights was like episode five or something. So that
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  Speaker 3: would have been... march ish so i would so i
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  Speaker 3: either forgot to log it and completely blipped it out
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  Speaker 3: of my memory because the first time i have it
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  Speaker 3: and the only time i haven't laid a a fucking
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  Speaker 3: in my diary on letterboxd is from october 20th 2024
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  Speaker 3: so i'm either full of shit or i Just forgot
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  Speaker 3: to log it. I feel like I'm full of shit, though.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Go back and listen to the episode.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. We say, oh, my hot take now. No,
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  Speaker 4: we had some wild takes back then on some shit.
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  Speaker 3: What was the take?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so a very specific example. And it's not even
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  Speaker 4: a wild take. It's a wild way to prove that
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  Speaker 4: we were just so wish-washy. Foreign Frights, I'm talking about
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  Speaker 4: Satan Slaves. And I'm like, yo, it's so cool how
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  Speaker 4: you can watch this movie and still get the vibe
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  Speaker 4: of it. And the dialogue doesn't really matter. And then
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  Speaker 4: you fast forward to our Satan Slaves episode, the one
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  Speaker 4: shot we did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And we're all like, the dialogue fucking matters. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's been eight years. It's been a
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  Speaker 3: long journey to get where we are today. So that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like we take it much more seriously. Like,
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  Speaker 4: we did a whole roll of dice horror trivia.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. We did. We used to play trivia
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  Speaker 3: for reason, literally for time filler, because for some reason
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  Speaker 3: I had it in my head that episodes needed to
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  Speaker 3: be two plus hours when that is not the reality.
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  Speaker 3: If I see a podcast that's like two and a
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  Speaker 3: half hours, I'm not fucking listening to it.
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  Speaker 4: Unless it's a show that I've already been into.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, or if it's a subject on something. But two
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  Speaker 3: and a half hours on one movie, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 4: You can't do a podcast longer than the movie.
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  Speaker 3: I'll listen to Matt and Lacey rant on about a
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  Speaker 3: movie forever because I love them. But for the most part... Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if you're doing a two to three hour podcast on
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  Speaker 3: a single movie, I just don't have the bandwidth for that.
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  Speaker 4: And even I don't listen to all of their episodes. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I listen to the things about the movies that I like.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah. I mean, yeah, exactly. So, you know, that's
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  Speaker 3: why I try to keep our episodes under an hour
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  Speaker 3: and a half because that's about the attention span I have. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: where did we fucking start? My ADHD just completely, did we,
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  Speaker 3: did you, oh, we were just talking about other movies
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  Speaker 3: that are, uh, the.
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  Speaker 4: Podcast, uh, just, just me, just me going backwards.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. No, this is a little bit. This
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  Speaker 3: is why the beginning says there will be tangents because
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  Speaker 3: this is exactly what happens.
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  Speaker 4: Cause I know that, um, my theater is probably only
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  Speaker 4: going to get like one or two out of the like,
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  Speaker 4: three or four movies that are releasing in October.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm thinking the biggest one that we're going to
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  Speaker 4: be getting just based off of how that theater functions
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  Speaker 4: is going to be Other Mommy, which I'm fine with.
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  Speaker 4: I really want to see.
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  Speaker 3: Does that come out this month too?
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  Speaker 4: I thought it, yeah, I think it comes out in October.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit. Well, this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's October like 18th.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus. This weekend we have Beware Begonia or I can't
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  Speaker 3: fucking say it. It's the big giant snake movie. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: Beware Boyana. Yeah, Beware Boyana. And then we also have
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  Speaker 3: something called the Influencer Project, which is a found footage
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  Speaker 3: mockumentary style thing. Then next week. Oh, October 9th. Oh, 9th. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so then we have Other Mommy next week. We have
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  Speaker 3: Ghost in a Cell also this week. We have, there's
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  Speaker 3: another one too that's coming out this month. I just
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  Speaker 3: can't remember. Oh, Wildwood from Laika Studios. It is labeled
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  Speaker 3: as a horror movie. So that's one, two, three, four, five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of shit coming out this month. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So I have one showing of Ghost in a Cell
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  Speaker 3: all the way out at fucking Disney at 930 at night.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I have the energy to go to
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  Speaker 3: like the AMC 20 minutes for me at 930. But
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  Speaker 3: like 45 minute drive to and from. And it's like
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  Speaker 3: a two hour movie. I'll get home at one. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just like, no, I can't do that. I can't be
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  Speaker 3: on the road.
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  Speaker 4: You have to, you have to, because none of us
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  Speaker 4: else are going to be able.
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  Speaker 3: To, I'm praying that.
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  Speaker 4: I have to, I have to experience it via proxy
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  Speaker 4: by you. Like, yes, I'm going to be able to
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  Speaker 4: stream it the month after.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the point.
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  Speaker 4: I need to psychically vampire the energy of how you
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  Speaker 4: experience that on the big screen.
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  Speaker 3: You need to pull a colin robinson from what we
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  Speaker 3: do in the shadows and suck the energy of that
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  Speaker 3: movie just from me telling you about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to, I'm just hoping that my
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  Speaker 3: AMC wise is up because they've done this a lot
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  Speaker 3: this year, right? They have not released a movie. And
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  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden last minute, they're like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 3: people want to see this, put it in theaters. No
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  Speaker 3: fucking shit. Like, come on, like get your shit together.
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  Speaker 3: Why is the one out at Disney playing it of
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  Speaker 3: all places? That's where all the families go. I don't,
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  Speaker 3: it's just so weird that they're playing it, but my
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  Speaker 3: AMC is not.
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  Speaker 4: Because they have the.
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  Speaker 3: I guess it is like a cultural melting pot. You've
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  Speaker 3: got every... Yeah. I guess that's true.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to be much more able to find Indonesian
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  Speaker 4: people just out and about at 9.30 in Disney Springs
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  Speaker 4: than probably anywhere else in Orlando.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about that movie, too, is it's
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  Speaker 3: a horror comedy. He hasn't done a horror, I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 3: there are some moments of his movie, his movies, Joko Anwar,
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  Speaker 3: that have like funny moments, but this is a horror comedy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm prepared for the level of dark
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  Speaker 3: comedy that we're about to see in this movie. And
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  Speaker 3: I've seen some still images. This shit is probably his
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  Speaker 3: most graphic movie to date, which is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: And the stills and art that I've seen from it,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, is it a prison horror musical? The way
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  Speaker 4: everybody's standing around, I'm like, what is this?
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  Speaker 3: It's also listed as an action as well. It's listed
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  Speaker 3: as an action comedy horror thriller. I think he's going to,
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  Speaker 3: what is he going to be? Satan Slaves, Empedagore, Satan
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  Speaker 3: Slaves 2, Grave Torture. Ghost in a Cell, he's literally
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  Speaker 3: about to be fucking five for five, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: because every movie that he's done has a 4.5 or
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  Speaker 3: a five from me, which is crazy. The only other
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  Speaker 3: person to do that is Craigor so far. And then
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Peele would be next because all of his movies
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  Speaker 3: have four and a halves from me. Well, except for Nope,
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  Speaker 3: I gave that one a five.
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  Speaker 4: It also helps, though, that we got that really intimate
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  Speaker 4: interview with him And to know how like his process works,
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  Speaker 4: the level of quality that he's cranking out at this point,
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  Speaker 4: it's just like, Oh, okay. So this is what you
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  Speaker 4: were made to do. Like be it horror or not.
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  Speaker 4: Like you, you got put here on this plane to
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  Speaker 4: make movies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the cool thing about his films as well is,
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  Speaker 3: is there is, I think it's, Oh fuck. I should
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  Speaker 3: have looked this up before, but I wasn't preparing to
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  Speaker 3: go down the tangent. I think it's, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: Severin films. I believe some boutique label is putting out
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  Speaker 3: four of his movies, Satan slaves one and two, which
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  Speaker 3: is really fucking tight. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like big $ 120 box set.
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  Speaker 3: It was, well, I think I paid, I think mine
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  Speaker 3: was like 79 cause the bigger one included other movies
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  Speaker 3: that I didn't give a shit about because they weren't his.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a four movie box set, which includes Satan
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  Speaker 3: Slaves 1 and 2 on 4K in Pedagore. And then
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  Speaker 3: an earlier movie, I think, called The Ritual. And then
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  Speaker 3: they also released two other movies that he did. The
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  Speaker 3: Forbidden Door... And something else. So I ordered all of
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  Speaker 3: those because absolutely, Satan Slaves 2 doesn't even have a
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  Speaker 3: release to my knowledge. I already have Empedagore, but fucking
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  Speaker 3: I'll take it on 4K. And then I don't have
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  Speaker 3: the other movies. So I'm so happy that he seems
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  Speaker 3: to be getting more recognition in the States, especially with
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  Speaker 3: a box set of his own.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like, oh, here's- Like, that's a level of
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  Speaker 4: definition I don't think I need from that. It's already
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  Speaker 4: scary enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because most people are probably streaming it. I do
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  Speaker 3: have the Blu-ray and I watch it there. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's good for Joko because usually... in situations
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  Speaker 3: like this where I would consider him to the mass
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  Speaker 3: populace lesser known. Obviously he is one of our favorites,
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  Speaker 3: but it's fine.
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  Speaker 4: And in, in, in where he's from, he's, he's, He's
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  Speaker 4: got a lot of fans.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. So I'm going to double check this.
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  Speaker 4: But us, us in the States, you know, we're, we're
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  Speaker 4: an entertainment suck, but we're that the, the also our
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  Speaker 4: biggest export is ourselves. Everybody knows America, but we don't
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  Speaker 4: know anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So for him to not only get his movies
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  Speaker 3: out there, but a four disc, I'm clicking on it now.
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  Speaker 3: It's called the sacred and cursed movie. the Joko Onwar collection,
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  Speaker 3: Satan Slaves 1 and 2, Empedagore, Ritual, and then they
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  Speaker 3: also did a separate release for The Forbidden Door. Total
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  Speaker 3: of $ 94 for five 4Ks. Absolutely. Bought all those. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty good. And then Satan Slaves 3 is probably
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  Speaker 3: going to be out, I would assume, sometime... I don't
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  Speaker 3: know with how quick he makes movies late next year around,
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  Speaker 3: around this time next year, because I mean, he said.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it may, it may take some time
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  Speaker 4: for localization.
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  Speaker 3: Right. But, uh, so yeah, I'm excited for that. And, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to tell Gabby, like, look, I
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  Speaker 3: need to see this. Uh, and I don't really want
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  Speaker 3: to go out there. This maybe I'll drag Spencer with
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  Speaker 3: me just so I can experience it with someone because
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  Speaker 3: I can't, I can't just be in that theater alone
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  Speaker 3: without someone to look at and be like, Cause I
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  Speaker 3: know this movie is going to blow.
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  Speaker 4: Is Spencer into Joko's movies?
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  Speaker 3: He's about to be, I'll tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 3: If he has not seen them, he is about to.
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  Speaker 3: So let me go through.
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  Speaker 4: I can just see, I can just see Spencer sitting
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  Speaker 4: there going, Hmm, this is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have to, you know, he'll have to have a
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  Speaker 3: precursor with at least watching Satan Slaves. Or, fuck it,
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  Speaker 3: maybe just throw him into this one, because this one
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  Speaker 3: seems like it's going to be the most wild, chaotic shit,
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  Speaker 3: and then have him go backwards.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would start him on Empedagore.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably, actually, yeah, that's probably a better one, because
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  Speaker 3: there's not as much.
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  Speaker 4: That's the most even playing field for.
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  Speaker 3: There's not as.
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  Speaker 4: What he, like, his style.
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  Speaker 3: There's not as much lore as Satan Slaves, and then
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  Speaker 3: Satan Slaves 2 really kind of just expands on the
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  Speaker 3: lore with... I just can't wait to see where Satan
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  Speaker 3: Slaves 3 goes.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not as upsetting as Grave Torture is.
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  Speaker 3: Grave Torture is upsetting, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Grave Torture is like emotionally upsetting too.
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  Speaker 3: It's damaging, yeah, it's very damaging.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, psychic damage for sure.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Let me rattle off a couple things here because I
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: haven't really watched too much. I watched a new movie
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  Speaker 3: for this year that actually Michael recommended to me because
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  Speaker 3: he saw it at the Milwaukee Film Festival. It's called,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to pronounce this wrong, but I believe it's Marama,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm saying that correctly. Technically from 2025, released in 2026.
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  Speaker 3: I'm never going to shut up about this movie. It's
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: going to be insufferable the amount of times I mention
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  Speaker 3: this movie. But if you haven't seen it, I'm not
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: telling you shit because you just need to go watch it.
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  Speaker 3: It involves New Zealand... what do you call it? Indigenous
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: people to New Zealand. They're called the Maori and it
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: involves their story. And it is one of the most
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: powerful films of the year and the most beautifully shot
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: film I have seen in, I don't want to put
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: like a timeframe, definitely this year. By far the most
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: beautifully shot film from a cinematography standpoint I've seen this year.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the past few years. It's gorgeous. It's very impactful.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Incredible performances. wild, shocking, uh, reveals. And, and it's, I'm
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: never going to stop talking about it. It's five-star movie
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: all day, all day, every day. And then rewatch some stuff, uh,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: grave encounters, grave encounters too. Oh, almost, I almost forgot.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe I almost probably because it was such
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  Speaker 3: a forgettable movie. The house was not hungry then. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: This is also a new movie that just released. I
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: think it's on shutter as well. Very rarely, uh, do
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I intentionally hold a movie, uh, to talk about you
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: absolutely shit on. And this is one of them. Cause
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it's not my style. Typically. I think the last movie
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I went this hard on was one of the movies
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: from last year. Uh, the Oscar winners that I could,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: that I, that I couldn't stand. Oh God, I can't
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: remember it. Uh, it was one I really hated. And
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: then before that, it was probably that werewolf movie. Jason
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: made me watch. Thanks Jason. Um, But the house is
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: not hungry then. It's basically like if Presence and a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: ghost story got together, but then while they were together,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Presence went off and had like a bastard child with Skinnamarink,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and then this is the movie we got. Utterly fuck
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: this movie. It's a slap in the face.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And see, I never even finished Skinnamarink.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I got like... It's a trash movie. I got like.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: 30 minutes into it, and I was like, am I
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: just going to be looking at door frames?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: It is blurry out of focus door frames. I like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I get that it taps into that thing when we
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: were kids and you know, it was dark and you
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: couldn't really make shapes out. Like it happens to me
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: now I'll wake up and I'll be like, Oh, I,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I get it taps into that fear of, like, the
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: unknown as a child. But I'm sorry. People out there
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: that are like, oh, it's one of the. No, it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: fucking not. I will die on this hill. Skin of
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Meringue is just utterly an uninteresting, boring piece of shit.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And this was the same movie just in the daylight. Okay.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing with better framing. We're getting to
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: this point with independents. film where we are trying to
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: be so ambiguous and so different and just so fucking
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: quirky that we're not even doing the basic essentials of
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: telling the story. Okay. That is the point of watching
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: a movie to tell me a narrative, whether I have
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: to kind of piece that together with information you get
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: by the end. Sure. But literally there is no context
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: for anything going on in this movie that It has
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: the same rating scale as Skin and Meringue 2. It's
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: like half star, star, half star. It's up and down.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. So it's another Skin and Meringue. I didn't
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: think this would ever happen again. But I cannot recommend
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: this movie. I almost recommend it to watch to be like, wow,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: if this can get made into a movie, I can
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: make a movie. Because... And also, I don't think.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: No, but Dust Bunnies has a very clear narrative. It
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: is a very well-told story. It follows the hero's journey.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: And this isn't really a spoiler, but the camera positions
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: are fixed. You get like six different camera positions of
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: the house. And I won't tell you why. You can
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: figure that out if you watch it. But literally, there's
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: like six different angles that you get of the entire house. It's...
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And then there's sometimes where the character is in another
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: room talking and I was like, why are we in
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the room with them? I can't fucking understand what, oh God,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: genuinely so irritating. This movie held me hostage for 90
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: minutes and I cannot recommend it other than to just
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: be like, wow. this was a choice no offense to
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: the director or anybody involved I know how hard it
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: is to get shit done you know whatever and enough
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: with my tangent I don't like shitting on movies I
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: don't I don't I don't god damn it when I
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: felt like I'm literally being held and bound and gagged
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and waterboarded by a movie I feel like I have
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: to say something about it so to fucking I'm not
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: recommending it anyways I'm in a mood today cause a
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of other shit let's get into the autopsy
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: or what the fucking body count god damn it I
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: don't even have time for any of this shit. It's
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: one of my rants. I'm going to bring it down.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about The Blair Witch Project from 1999.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It released July 14th as a limited theatrical run and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: then fully July 30th as a wide release in the U.S.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: It is rated R. There is no sex and nudity.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: There is mild violence and gore. I feel like it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: just rated R for severe profanity. Mild alcohol, drugs, and smoking.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And severe frightening and intense scenes. Eh, I don't know. Maybe.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: For the time.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, true. For the time. For 1999, I can agree
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: with that. Runtime of an hour and 21 minutes. You're in,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: you're out. Listed as a horror mystery. Directed by two people,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Daniel Myrick, who also directed Curse of the Blair Witch,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: which is a precursor to this film. Trust me, we're
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: going to get into so much lore. Ooh, it's crazy.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: solstice and the objective. And of course, Eduardo Sanchez, our
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: beloved friend of the show, friend of the show, been
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: on the show three times. We've talked about the Blair,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: which we've talked about exists. We've talked about satanic Hispanics
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and I'm probably, I reached out to him the other
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: day and I was like, Hey, let's link back up
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: when the new reboot or whatever comes out next year.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: He also directed Altered, Lovely Molly, and Exists. Written by
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the same two men who wrote the same things I
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: just mentioned. Composed by Antonio Cora, who also composed Curse
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: of the Blair Witch and Altered. Cinematography by Neil Fredericks,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: who also did the cinematography for Abominable, which was a
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Jason pick from last year, I want to say. Edited
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: by Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sanchez. Daniel's edited five other
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: things that I haven't heard of, but Eduardo has edited
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Lovely Molly, his movie, A Ride in the Park, which
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: is a short from VHS2 and exists, starring Heather Donahue
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: as Heather Donahue. She has 16 credits and hasn't really
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: done much after this. She was in one episode of
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, season one, episode two, as
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Stacey Corvelli, which is always hilarious to see her randomly
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: pop up. You've got Joshua Leonard as Joshua Leonard, who
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: was also in Unsane as David Strine, and Michael C.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Williams as Michael C. Williams, who was also in Altered,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: another Eduardo Sanchez project, as Otis. Estimated budget, it ranges.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I've heard 40. I've heard 60. We're just going to
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: go with 50 because that's where I'm going. A worldwide
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: box office gross of $ 248. 6 million, literally one of the
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: most profitable films of all time. I believe it's in
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the top, like, five. I think it actually was number
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: one until recently, but whatever. We'll get into that, too.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: This movie was filmed in Rockville, Burkittsville, Wheaton, and Ellicott City, Maryland.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: You can watch this on HBO Max. Listen to the movies, dude.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: How fucking 90s is this? The Sixth Sense, American Pie,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Eyes Wide Shut, The Iron Giant, one of my favorites.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: The Boondog Saints, The Ninth Gate, The Bone Collector, Wild
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Wild West, the movie everybody forgot about.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I did not. I did not forget about that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Okay. I mean, I didn't either, but I forget about it,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: and then I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a movie. Deep
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Blue Sea.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Anytime we see any kind of big construction equipment, Jessica goes...
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: It looks like that spider from Wild Wild West.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Deep Blue Sea, The 13th Warrior, Runaway Bride, Stir
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: of Echoes, The Haunting, Bowfinger, Mystery Men, Lake Placid, Inspector Gadget,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Drop Dead Gorgeous, Detroit Rock City, Muppets from Space, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Dudley Do-Right. My fucking God, dude. IMDb summary, three film
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: students vanish after traveling into a Maryland forest to film
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: a documentary on the local Blair Witch legend. leaving only
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: their footage behind. Now let's go into the autopsy. All right, Corey,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: overall thoughts on the Blair Witch Project, a very beloved
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: and also hated movie. What do we have?
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: A cultural touchstone, a benchmark of horror cinema. You know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: it has its problems, sure, but for what it is
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: and what it did before, For us, as the community
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: of horror people, it's lovely. It's a fantastic movie.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: No, I agree. I totally agree. I remember not originally
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: vibing with it back when I first saw it, when
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I was a younger man and I had even weirder
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: opinions on movies than I do now. Thought it was boring,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: didn't understand it. Wasn't until recently, I'd say probably after
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: we started the podcast and we really started dissecting movies
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: and looking into them and figuring out what we liked
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and what we didn't like, that I realized, no, this
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: is not only, I think, one of the most important films,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: but it's one of the most impactful films to have
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: ever existed. I mean, before this, you had... A handful
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: of POV slash found footage style movies, but nothing compares
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: to this in terms of what the Blair Witch Project
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: did for that subgenre. This made the POV mockumentary found
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: footage whole thing explode because from here to 2009, I mean,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the world was flooded. With, oh, these guys.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: We've seen a bunch of them.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of my favorite genres. Let me
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: backtrack there. It is my favorite subgenre of horror. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: do like it. When it's done right and it's believable,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: it's just the best filmmaking, in my opinion. Now, with
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: this one, obviously they did it for like, you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: 50 bucks in a Slim Jim, but that's why it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: not perfect. You know, okay? They had two different cameras.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: They had the Hi8, and then they had the 60mm camera. So, yes,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it's not perfect. The audio at times peaks here and there,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I notice. Sometimes it's too loud.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: And gets crunchy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets a little crunchy. But it almost adds
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: to the overall product they were trying to sell with that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: This was million percent. Like this was found. So it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: not going to be perfect.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: And every time I watch it, Because like I have
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: people in my actual life that were like, yeah, we
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: went and saw that movie and one, we saw it
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: at the Enzian and 100% believe this was a real
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: thing that happened.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: And I watching this movie, even in 2026, I'm like, yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I kind of see it. I can, I can like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: there are certain points of the movie where if I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: just suspend disbelief hard enough, I'm like, no, this, this happened.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: It's, it's like with, um, dark descent, my European nightmare.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things where like, like you can't
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: tell me that part of my brain doesn't say like, yo,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: this is, this is happening right now to this man.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Like I am watching the diary of a man go mad.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Another movie that I'll add to that list of all
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: so real that I'm convinced or Yeah, so real that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced it happened. It's a movie called Kill Capture Release.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: If you've never heard.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes. That movie is double fucked.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: It's an Oreo double fucked family pack.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Essentially, this couple decides they want to go murder someone.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: And one of them gets really attached to the idea
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and wants to go do it more. And the other
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: one is like, I don't want to do this. We
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: are in too deep. And it is like the gore.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: And the person who's really into it's different. is just so,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: it is so convincing. So yeah, that's another one that
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, this definitely happened, even though I know
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: it didn't. But yeah, this movie is very important. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: we're not going to talk about so much the movie itself,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: because really it is three people running around in the
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: forest yelling at each other because they're lost. That's what
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: The phrase that kept playing over and over in my
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: head while I was watching this movie is a play
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: on the phrase, all gas, no brakes.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: This movie is all vibe, all brakes. Yeah. Like Eduardo
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Sanchez himself said, Or maybe I said to him, I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: can't remember. We've had a lot of conversations. But this
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: movie is all tell, no show. Whereas the predecessor to
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: this movie, skipping over Book of Shadows, which fucking I enjoy, okay?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just put that out there. It's not
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: a fuck, it's not this movie, okay? It's a fun time.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: It's a vibe movie. It's not found footage. It is
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: traditionally shot, but it's about people who saw the movie
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: and I enjoy it. But pushing past that to 2016's
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Blair Witch, that movie is all show and basically i
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: mean there's telling but no tell because they you know
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: they they break the cardinal rule in that movie of
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: you know because we never see the witch in blair
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: witch and i'm sorry if you haven't seen the 2016
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: one what it's been 10 years you see the witch
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: in that one and that was everyone.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: You see two different versions of the.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Witch so and that was everyone's biggest complaint but i'm like.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Okay because i literally just watched that one too yeah
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: he I finished up that one and you were like, Hey,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I got like 40 minutes left.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, cool.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: So Jessica was like, Jessica was like, what is this
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: 2016 Blair witch? And I was like, it's kind of
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: a like reboot.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: It's a requel. That's what I see.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's a requel retcon. And she was like, I've
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: never seen it. So she put it on and she
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: was like, it's okay.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: So they, you know, that's one of the biggest criticisms
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: is though they show the witch. Okay. So if they
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: did the same thing as the first movie where they
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: didn't show the witch, people would probably complain about that too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to, I mean, I don't need to
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: defend Adam Wingard. He has a great career, but I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: like what he brought stylistically to the movie because whereas
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: the original Blair witch was, is completely revolves around just
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: fucking being trapped in the woods and being scared because
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you have no idea what's out there. Crazy shit is
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: happening in the 2016 one. You've got people snapping in half.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: You've got people that they encounter in the, or that
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: they bring with them in the woods who get lost
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and then come back and they're like, Oh, we've been
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: out here for months. Like it's a fucking creepy movie.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: It's a very good, it's a very, yeah, it's very
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: good jump scare. It's Blair Witch with a budget. I
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: am convinced that if, um, Eduardo had had a better
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: budget going into, uh, the original, I'm sure there would
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: have been a lot more.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: It's just the old saying limitation is the, uh, something
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: of creativity. Like it makes, it makes you have to
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: be more creative with what you're doing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent. If you have that, yeah. Sometimes the
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: movies with the smallest budget end up being better than
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: big budget Hollywood movies because they are restrained and they
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: have to come up with creative solutions to get their
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: point across. And if you go back and listen to
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: our interview with Ed, he talks about how many different
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: endings this fucking movie had. They had a version where
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I think they had the witch in the background. They
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: ultimately chose not to do that. And then it was
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: kind of a last minute thing. If I'm remembering correctly,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go back and clip the audio and
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: throw it in here probably if I can find it,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: if it's not too much of a chore. Was there
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: ever any intention on actually showing a Blair Witch or
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: was it always meant to just be... You know, like
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: all tell, no show.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I always tell people this. I'm like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: if we had had like a real budget, we would
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: have concocted some fucking dude or woman in a suit
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and completely ruined the end of the movie. And when
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: we were, you know, we didn't know what the ending
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: was going to be like. We knew it was going
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to be in the cellar of this house. And, but
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Dan and I, like when we started shooting, we didn't
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: know exactly how the movie was going to end. So
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it was like this pressure of like, what the, what
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the hell are we going to do at the end?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And I remember like the days counting down and Greg,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: who was like, you know, the producer, he's like, have
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you guys come up with an ending yet? And we're like, no,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, you got four days, you understand, you know?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And we're like, we know, we know. And then I
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: remember him coming up to us like after like two
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: or three, like, maybe three or, you know, like the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: ending was coming soon. Like, and he was like, you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so basically you guys have like, you know, put yourself
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in a corner, not, you know, you guys have put
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: yourself in a corner where like, we can't do any
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: art direction because we don't have time. Like there's no
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: time to like build anything or dig, you know, like
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you guys have kind of, you gotta have to come
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: up with something that requires no art direction. So it
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was just like a lot of, it was a lot
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: of stress. And luckily, you know, we came up with
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: an idea and we kind of massaged it and we
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: were like, yeah, that's kind of cool. And, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it ended up being the perfect ending for the movie.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, we were always like, look,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we could always come back and, you know, reshoot this ending.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if it didn't work or whatever. So,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you know, we knew that it wasn't like, it wasn't
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the end of the world if we didn't nail the ending.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: But luckily, you know, heather and mike and you know
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: just the way it worked just you know really just
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: just did such a great job and the way it
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: ended up you know cutting together was just freaking perfect
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: um but um but but yeah man i always because
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know dan and i were like you know do
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you see like you know there's so many ideas like
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: um is Josh in one of, you know, like in
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a grave, you know, he's laying in the grave and the,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever, or is Josh, you know, his body
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: is like laid across the wall or is, you know,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: when the camera falls, do we see like this hoofed
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: leg come in, you know, for a split second and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: then move away? Like, and we were like, that could
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: be cool. But then we, you know, we're like, we
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: don't have any time to build a hoofed leg. You know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: we don't even have time for that. So, Um, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I always, you know, I think both Dan, I tell
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: people it was like, if we would have had an
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: extra 50,000 bucks or something, we would have hired somebody
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to make some stupid suit and we would have like,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you know, ruined the end of the movie. But, um,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know, luckily again, like serendipity kind of stepped in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and like stopped us from ruining our own film.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Everything, uh, everything worked out cause I was watching that
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: commentary and And, uh, you know, at the beginning of
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the movie, you have that interview with the guy on
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the street and he's like, you know, about standing in
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: the corner and this and that, you know, and in
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: the commentary, you said that was one of the last
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: things you shot, which perfectly coincides with what you're telling
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: me now about how you didn't really have that ending.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And then you did, and then you went back and
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: shot that. So that sets up the movie so perfectly
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: when you, if you, by adding that little detail of
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the guy on the street and facing in the corner
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: that it sets it up so perfectly that you don't
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: even know you're getting the ending of the movie until
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: it's so perfect.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And also, I mean, and, and, you know, like the,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the Sundance cut doesn't have that interview because we went
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to Sundance and we hadn't, you know, we didn't have
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: any money to go reshoot stuff or anything. So we
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: were just like, cause, cause the reason for the corner thing,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, we shot it and Dan and I were like,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll come up with a reason why the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: hell are that he's in a corner or whatever. And
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: then what, you know, I was working on the website
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you know, in 98. And I was just filling in
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the mythology and like just, you know, adding names and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: details to like do this timeline. And I started talking,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I started thinking about like why, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the corner and then I came up with the idea
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: of like, okay, Rustin Parr, you know, killed two kids
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: at the same time and he would make one stand
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in the corner while he killed the other one. And
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that was, you know, again, it was really creepy fucking
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you know, reason. And I, I told Dan, he was like, oh,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that's great. You know, let's, you know, and then, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: then once Artisan bought us, you know, we didn't have,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: we didn't have any time to do that for the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Sundance cut. And then, and then, so once Artisan, you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: bought us, they were like, you know, the ending is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: not really working for us. We think we'd get some,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a bigger ending. And, you know, do you guys want
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to reshoot the ending? And we were like, no, we
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: don't want to reshoot it. And they're like, well, we'll
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: pay you. Like, you know, it was a crazy, we
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: made more money on the, on those reshoots than we
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: did on the movie, you know, making the movie. Like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And we were broke. We were still broke. We hadn't
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: gotten paid yet because we hadn't delivered the film. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, we'll go shoot some fucking alternate endings. Yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: we'll go down there. So we got the original crew
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: back and we paid. Actually, I could pay people. And
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: we brought Mike. We didn't have to bring Heather back.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: We just brought Mike back and did the... I don't
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: know if you guys have seen the alternate endings, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: him hanging. They're kind of stupid. But we also went
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: and shot the interview with the guy talking about how
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Rustin Parr, you know, did that. So, and we felt like, man, that's,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you know, you're, you're laying that you're, you're, you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you're planting that seed really early in the movie. And,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: but we were, we were thought, look, not everybody's going
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to get that ending, you know, going to connect it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: But for the people that do connect it, that's going
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to be a cool moment because.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: You're going to be like, Oh shit, that's the fucking
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: thing that the guy was talking about, you know, like,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: you know, and so, you know, again, we lucked out
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: and we made good decisions and we didn't, you know, again,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: ruin our own film because we got close a lot
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: of times to just ruining it, you know.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: And we kind of stayed out of our own way,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Let's start at the very beginning because this goes back
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: to June of 1998, right? The Blair Witch.com And unlike
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: a traditional movie website, it doesn't just list dates and trailers.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It's like this repository for mythology containing references to historical
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: incidents that would eventually be fleshed out. And The Curse
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: of Blair Witch, along with behind-the-scenes material, photographic evidence of
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the filmmaker's abandoned car, missing gear or clips from the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: local Maryland media recounting disappearances. Like, people could spend hours
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: on this site going through information, which they did for
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: nearly a year because the movie wouldn't come out until 1999.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: So they released this a year before the movie actually
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: went to Sundance and then went to theaters and all
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that stuff. And it actually has a Guinness World Book
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: of Records record For longest running movie site. Because today
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: it has been restored. I mean not like today. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: as of the current year. It's been established. And you
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: can go to the original website. As it was presented.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Or at least I believe you can. I did just
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: click on the link. And it took me to Lionsgate.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm fucking full of shit. I don't know. See
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I'm already off to a terrible start. So that's how
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: this all starts in 1998. But before Liongate. Blair Witch
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: would release on the 14th, like I said, as a limited,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: and then the 30th as a full. They actually put
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: out a mockumentary called Curse of Blair Witch, which takes
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: you all the way back to 1785 when Ellie Kedward
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: is accused of witchcraft by several children in the township
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: of Blair, Maryland, and she's eventually convicted and banished into
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the wilderness. During winter, afterward, the children who accused her,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: along with roughly half the town's children, mysteriously go missing.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: And the surviving people flee and supposedly never vow to
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: speak Ellie Kedward's name again. So that's like where this
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: all starts. All the way back in 1785. That's how
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: deep this lore goes. Were you aware of this?
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sure I've heard it somewhere. I just don't 100% remember. No, I,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I like, I, it's like the gears clicking, but it's, it's,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: it's not catching on anything. So I don't, I, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: don't think I had heard of that unless you brought
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: it up during the Eduardo interview.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I did not. I learned all of, I learned all
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: about this. Yeah. Yesterday and today. Okay. So the curse
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: of the Blair, which was, um, like I said, it
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: was a, it was, I think it was a TV
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: movie for showtime, I believe, but, Everything that I'm about
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: to go into is what's included in that documentary or,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: you know, mockumentary. So then we jump to 1825 with
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: the disappearance of Eileen Treacle, a young girl supposedly pulled
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: into the Tappy East Creek by a pale woman. That's
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: the second disappearance of someone. Then we get to Robin Weaver.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: which is about 50 years later, 60, sorry. It was
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: either 1886 or 1888. They definitely said 1886 in the movie,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: but I read somewhere else 1888, so we're just going
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to say 1880s. That's what I'm going to say. But
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: she wandered off, disappeared into the woods, got lost. Three
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: days later, appears back on her grandma's porch, and everyone
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: is just completely mystified by it, which leads us to
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: the events that happened at Coffin Rock, which is exactly
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: what our group in the movie, The Blair Witch Project,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: They are going to. They actually go to Coffin Rock
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and read out of the little notebook that Heather has
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: with all the events that take place. This is the
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: craziest shit because, you know, they mention a lot of
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: this in the film. I don't know why I was
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: never paying attention, I guess. I don't know. But so
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: after she goes missing, a rescue party goes out to
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: look for her. She returns, but the rescue party does not.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And she is speaking of this woman, an old woman
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: whose feet never touched the ground. And so a second
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: team goes out looking for the first team and discovers
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: the gruesome scene at coffin rock, which Heather recounts in
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the diary. These five men have been ritualistically murdered. They
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: were bound together, uh, in a solid geometric shape. Each
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: man's hands tied to the next man's feet. They'd been
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: disemboweled while presumably alive and an indecipherable pagan like symbols
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: were deeply carved into their sun bleach faces. So the
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: second search party, uh, leaves immediately because that's a horrific
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: thing to come across. And when they return with the cops,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: everything is vanished, leaving only behind the thick stench of
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: death and blood on the hemp ropes. So that is
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: another instance that happens. You obviously know about this because
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: it's in the movie. Yeah. So that's some of the
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: lore that they drop in the movie. The thing I
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: find interesting about all of this is that Rustin Parr
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: is mentioned. He's mentioned about killing those seven kids. but
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: they don't really connect it in the Blair Witch project.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: This is what the curse of the Blair Witch actually
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: provides some more substance to and background. So Rustin Parr
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: had a fucking shitty childhood. First of all, he actually
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: had a twin brother named Dale who died while on
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: a hunting trip with their father. And it was speculated
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: that his dad did it because he Dale believed, or sorry,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: his father believed that Dale was a child of a
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: witch because there were rumors about Dale's mother having sacrificed
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: a child to the Blair Witch to ensure the birth
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: of her children. So there's some real Satan slave shit
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: going on here almost. Then he moves in with his
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: abusive uncle who also would die along with his aunt
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and uncle and then eventually in his early 20s he
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: leaves for a quieter life and moves into the house
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: in the woods next to a creek And after about
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: a few years of this self-imposed exile, he notices this
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: figure in the woods. It's a woman in a long
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: hooded cloak, or shawl if you will, as Mary Brown
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: would go on to describe it. Never sees the face.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Always vanishes before he calls out to her. Didn't feel
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: any fear from her initially. But then that changes in
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the 1930s because he starts hearing noises. Scaring him so
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: much that he becomes an insomniac. he became to fear
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: the woman and began to see her and hear her
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: in his dreams. Like she would be talking to him,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: saying all kinds of strange shit. Then he started hearing
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: them during the day. And almost after a year of
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: hearing the voice, Rustin had lost most of his senses.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: She would order him to carry out all these pointless
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: orders like sleeping in the basement. He always obeyed. He
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: could never seem to say no to this. witch, as
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: we're going to call her. The town's folks said he'd
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: become more suspicious of people and his appearances became more infrequent.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: And then sometime in the early 40s, it was in 1940,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure of the date, and he heard the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: woman in his head order him to go down into
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: town and take the first child he found, which would
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: be Emily Hollins, the first of eight children from town
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: to be abducted over the next six months. Now, I
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: know I said eight because only seven died. Well, get there.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Don't worry. Stay with me. So, again, he can't resist
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: this woman. He brought the children down in pairs to
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: the basement, had one stand against a corner while he
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: killed the other one, and then doing the same to
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: the other kid that was standing in the corner. For
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: some reasons, he did not only kill one child, Kyle Brody.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: He was forced to face another corner while Parr slaughtered
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the other seven, including Brody's friend, Emily Hollins. One night again,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Parr reportedly, this time he saw the woman in his
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: room and said, while he couldn't see her clearly, he
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: knew who it was. She spoke to him in the
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: same horrible voice that had plagued him. She told him
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: that you're done. You're finished. You can go into town
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: the next day. I will leave you alone if you
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: tell everybody what you did. And of course he does.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: He goes down to the market like that guy says
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the movie. He says, I'm finally finished.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Police go up, find the seven bodies. And then each
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: child had been ritualistically murdered and disemboweled. And Brody was
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: the only one who survived. And that's what tore the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: town apart was all the deaths in the 1940s. Parr
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: would then eventually tell everything in detail to authorities that
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: he did it for, quote, an old woman ghost who
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: occupied the woods near his home. So I find it
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: interesting that we get the most information about the least
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: mentioned character in the actual Blair Witch movie. that would
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: come right before it in the curse of the Blair witch.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: So it gives you all this background information about, so
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: it's almost like you have to watch curse of the
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: curse of the Blair witch to kind of get a
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: better grasp on the lore and mythology that goes into
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: the movie itself.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: So let me ask, uh, cause I got a little
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: bit lost cause I'm still high from watching the movie.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Um, that was a lot of information. I tried to,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: so is the curse.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Of the Blair witch, uh, Was in its own independent thing.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Before Blair Witch Project came about.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Correct. So with all of the hype around Blair Witch
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: from 1998 going into its release in 1999. Again, I
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: believe it was Showtime or one of the production companies approached,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: I think it was Eduardo. And they wanted to double
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: down on the this is real by doing.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Cool. All right.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: I couldn't figure out where the motivation on the in-between was.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: So it's a double down.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I am no longer lost. Thank you.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So essentially that's what that's what the whole premise
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: behind this mockumentary was that they released before the actual film.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It was a double down precursor to establish the fact
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: that the events of the movie, the Blair witch project
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: actually happened. And here's all the mythology behind it as
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: our proof. Now, of course, in 1999, uh, the internet
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: was still very much in its infancy. Yes, we had www.coms,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: but I mean, the internet was really, really gained popularity
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: like 95. It was very rudimentary in 1999. It's also
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: dial up and it was very slow. So we didn't
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: have the resources like we do today to disprove or
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: discredit things, especially when you have Curse of the Blair
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Witch that releases right before the actual movie. And at Sundance,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Eduardo said this, the cast was not allowed to show up,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: which really sucks. Because who doesn't want to show up
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: to the premiere of their film? But they were trying
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: to sell the fact that these people were legitimately missing.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: They had missing flyers drawn up and posted around. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: people believed this because nothing like this had ever happened
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: before in film.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: It's all big swings. Just big, wild, chopping swings. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: for the most part, they hit the ball hard. seven
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: out of nine times.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I remember Eduardo not wanting to present it
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: as real. And I think Lionsgate, one of the producers
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: was like, no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: don't worry about the backlash. We're going to present this
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: as real because it'll draw people to the theater. And
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: they were not fucking wrong. And of course they did
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: receive backlash because even Heather's mom received legitimate mail from,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: like saying, sorry for the loss of your daughter, because
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: we thought these people actually died. There was no Facebook.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: There was no MySpace. I don't think in 99. We
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: had AOL fucking AIM, and that was about the extent
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: of social media. So we didn't have all these things
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: where you could just like go look somebody up. I
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: don't even know if IMDB was around in 1999. I
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: don't know. So there was just not enough to actually
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: confirm or deny this didn't happen. So everyone perceived it
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: as real. Of course, years later, and all of the
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: other countless things that would come out afterwards, even though
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: they're trying to still claim it's real, people would eventually
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: find out that it was fake because, you know, Josh, Heather,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: and Michael would eventually have to go back to the
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: real world. So, of course, it came out later that
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: this was faked, but I mean... What a way to... Like,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: this was their first movie that they ever... What a
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: way to come out swinging, dude.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, we don't know what weight class to
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: put you in because you're punching above all of them
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: at the moment.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's the heaviest weight? Fucking welterweight or what?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I don't fuck, I don't know. We can't... We don't
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: know what... Heavyweight. Oh, is it? Okay, it's heavyweight. Fuck. So... Yeah,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: that's kind of all of the backstory of the lore
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: behind and leading up to. And then I feel like
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: we kind of have to mention Mary Brown because one
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: of the most popular kind of theories out there is
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: that she's the Blair Witch or she is using this body,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: this vessel to hide in. I don't really know if
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I necessarily feel like that's the case because she does
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: go into an encounter she had with the Blair witch.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: So it's entirely possible that she is maybe a minion
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: or something. I don't know. What's your read on the
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: whole Mary Brown situation?
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: I think Mary Brown is much more of, if we're
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: going to use like cabin in the woods terminology, the Harbinger,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: like she's, she's the final kickoff point of like, Oh,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: you know, I had the one actual experience and this
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: is what happened. And that's kind of what emboldens Heather
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: to be like, yeah, let's go fucking do this. And
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: then they even try and re-quote her back. What was
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: that thing she said? And then they even go, we
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: weren't listening to her. So you're not going to make
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: a character that your main characters aren't listening to be
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: that much of a consequence character. if she's the Blair witch,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: especially because they're, they go to her house.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And why would they go, why would the Blair witch
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: live in a house? Like not in a neighborhood, but
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: like where other people can identify her when she has
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: the spooky ethereal only shows up on the fifth day house.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, labeling her the Harbinger definitely feels
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: like a little more accurate than that. But you did
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: bring up something that I wanted to touch on because
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I wrote it down in my notes because the name
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: of Isu is brought up, but it's mistakenly referenced by
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Heather when trying to recall that biblical story that Mary
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Brown told. So, in the movie, she's panicked, and when
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: they discover the pile of rocks, and Heather's trying to
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: remember the local, or the thing that Mary, I keep
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: wanting to say Mary Shaw, but that's dead silence. Mary
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Brown says, and she was like, it was Esu, but
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: it was something about a pile of rocks. So, this
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: actually is a mix-up. She is misremembering the biblical figure.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: The story is actually about a covenant sealed with a
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: pillar and a heap of stones. Warning people not to
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: cross over to harm one another actually refers to Jacob
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: in Genesis 35, 52. So this is kind of interpreted
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: as don't go past this or you're fucked. And they
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: definitely went past this. So for anyone out there who
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: didn't know, that was the reference that she misinterpreted or misremembered.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: It's not Esu. It was the story of Jacob, like
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I said, which I find quite interesting. I didn't know
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: that either before I'm doing all of this research. So
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: I think the movie does a great job of really
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: front loading. And you have to remember the curse of
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: the Blair, which gives you even more mythology and lore,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: but they front load this just enough to pique your
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: interest because really a lot of the movie is just
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: wandering through the forest. They hear shit at night. They
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: have those say like the witchy symbols in, you know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: with made out of the twigs and stuff like that.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: And that was essentially Eduardo and I believe Daniel out
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: there just making noise, fucking shit up, doing stuff in
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: the woods. That's a lot of fun. And then I
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: remember him telling us also that they would leave notes
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, Heather, today you're going to fuck with Josh.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Josh, today you are going to be ultra supportive of Mike.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: And they wouldn't let the others know about it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and I thought that was really cool. So
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: it was very guerrilla run and gun. These people are
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: improv-ing a lot of this. They are giving basic notes.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I really feel from a director or behind the scenes person,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: not me, I'm just saying from like a, Director standpoint,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I like that idea because then that gives you the
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: most natural reactions because if you're not knowing what to expect,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: you just know the director's out there going to be
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: fucking making noise at three in the morning. That shit's still,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: you're still in the middle of the woods and noises
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: are still happening. That's fucking terrifying. So I love that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting way to make a film.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Although they were definitely worn out by the end of it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I remember Eduardo saying like, we really kind of, you know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: fucked him up a little bit.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: And see, and see my personal head cannon for this movie,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: because everybody has their own Blair witch theory. My, my
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: personal head cannon is that there, there was no witch.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: And it's just the three people going mad from getting
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: lost in the woods because they're suburban college adults.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: And they, they weren't prepared for this. And the reason
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: the things in the house happen the way they do
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: is because they listen to all these townspeople talk about shit.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: And it's like paradoxical undressing in a sense. You're just
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: going to, Oh, I'm going to stand in the corner
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: because I heard somebody tell me a story of standing
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: in the corner and I'm fucking starving to death.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Cause you could go like what? Seven days without food
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: and water.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Matt, Matt.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Like max, I think I know.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Food like seven days, but water is a different story.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: If you don't get water like ASAP, but yeah, you
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: can die of dehydration, but you're right. Because at one point,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I remember, you know, it's Michael, I think. He's sitting
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: on the ground after he finds a pack of smokes
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: in his bag. And he's just like, you know, like
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: rocking and cackling like a madman. And I was like,
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: these are clearly people who have lost their mind, probably
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: due to starvation. They have no idea where the fuck
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: they are. Exposure. Exposure. And they're going crazy. Because it's
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: freezing at night. I don't know what it's like in
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: the daytime. They were still wearing sweaters. So I'm assuming...
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: It's still a little bit cold. And then there were
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: a couple of nights where they didn't even do fire.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: So you have to put yourself in the mindset of
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: these people who are there to try and make a
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: film about this Blair Witch and Coffin Rock, but then
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: get lost, spend most of the movie fighting with each other. Because,
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, what else are you going to do? You
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: have someone in charge of a map who's not doing
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the right thing and getting you lost subsequently. So, of course,
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: everyone's going to be fighting and bickering because everyone wants
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: to leave. That's the most realistic... situation. No one's just
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: going to be like I told you. We're not all
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: going to be out here shooting rainbows out of our asshole.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Like, no.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: We're all going to be pissed because we're tired. We're hungry.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: We're probably, you know, like being out in the sun
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: for that long. Like, it's not a fun time. So...
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I think even though it is frustrating to listen to the,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: to the arguing and the yelling, it adds to the
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: realism of the film because it's.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: It feels so real. Like I said, like I said earlier,
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: and like, I'll say again, like it, it feels like
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: a real, like documentary film. And especially in the point
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: where it's, Josh disappears and they wake up the next
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: morning and there's that bundle that looks like a, uh,
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: like an effigy pyre and it's tied up with part
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: of Josh's, uh, flannel and Heather unwraps it. And there's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: a bloody tooth. I'm like, it's fucking real. Like I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: know the director, I know it's not, but yeah.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: It is. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: This is just the world's longest fucking.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Con and, It's the same thing with the Blackwell ghost. Like,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: I know they're all fake, but he does such a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: good job of blurring reality.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: Towing that line.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Towing that line of reality and fiction that I'm just like,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: you know what? Fuck it. These are real. Let's just
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: live in the world that these are real because they're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: so goddamn convincing. And that's how I feel about this.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: They figured out how to play the, I'm not touching
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: you with a micrometer.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Like you're, they're.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Getting Adam, Adam size distances away from reality.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Uh, something else that the curse of the Blair,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: which goes into is the 1999 or sorry, is the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: disappearances of the cast. They interview family members, friends, investigators, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: what makes this sec, what makes this section particularly effective
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: is that the documentary isn't telling us if the Blair
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Witch is real or not. So there's again, towing that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: line and said it presents compelling explanations. Some interviewers think,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: you know, treated as a legend or folklore or superstition
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: and others suggest that the students became lost, encountered, uh,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: could have become lost, encountered criminals or suffered some kind
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: of psychological breakdown. Like you said. And meanwhile, people connected
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: to the area describe strange experiences that seem increasingly difficult
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: to explain rationally. So that's what I love about the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Curse of the Blair Witch is because it's like, you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: thought this was real before? Let's make it even more
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: real with all this. It's so crazy. So the Curse
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: of the Blair Witch leaves us with the same question
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: is like, are these three people the victim of something supernatural?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Or did they just go crazy? Like, what exactly happened?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: So that's what I love about this. And I don't remember,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: did they specify? I know the opening line is, in
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: October 1994, three student filmmakers disappeared into the woods near Perkinsville, Maryland,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: while shooting a documentary. A year later, their footage was found.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: They go into that in.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: The 2016, right? Did they say how they found the footage?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it like mailed to them or something?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: So the footage is found by a guy hiking in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: and around the forest and mountains where Heather and the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: team got lost.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: He supposedly found... more footage that was not in the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: documentary that he then sent to her brother who had
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: been posting online about trying to find his sister.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. So yeah, that is the loose retcon because when
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: she's saying goodbye to her mom and dad, she doesn't
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: mention a sibling. Uh, so it's, it's weird. Like, I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's a retcon because usually a retcon
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: is like something is established in this movie and then
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: they completely disregard it in this movie. This is like
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: a reverse retcon where it's like, they're just adding in
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: that she had a brother when it wasn't specifically touched on.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, but it's definitely, it's, it's a loose,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: definitely loose connection.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Especially because in the 2016 remake, they say, Yeah. And
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: she would, uh, and this character was four years old
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: when Heather disappeared. Like I am for certain that as
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: a four year old, if my sister just disappeared. and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: there was video evidence of her saying stuff to the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: rest of the family, I would remember not getting a
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: shout out.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. For sure. And that's what
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: makes the 2016 one a little controversial.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: And at that point, I'd be like, fuck you, bitch.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not looking for you now.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: You didn't say bye to me. Fuck you.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Fair, fair enough. So other things, I mean, dude, I'm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: not going to, I can't go through all these because
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: we just don't have the time, but there's one important
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: one I want to, I'm going to list them off,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: but there's one important one I want to go through.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: So outside of the documentaries, mockumentaries, whatever you want to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: call them, there's something called the Blair Witch Project, a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: dossier book. There is a Blair Witch Project number one,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: one shot comic book. Blair Witch, The Secret Confessions of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Rustin Parr, which is a book. We have the Burkittsville Seven,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: which is another kind of mockumentary thing. We have Blair
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Witch Testaments, Dark Testaments number one. Then, of course, we
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: have Book of Shadows, which is Blair Witch two. We
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: have the Blair Witch Chronicles, which was a four-issue comic book.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: We have the Blair Witch Files, which were young adult novels.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: And then we have the Blair Witch Computer Games, volume
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: was one through three. There's so much shit that I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: had no idea about in other media, well, I guess
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: books aren't media, but in other formats, like books and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: comics and games.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: And then there was like a triple A... Blair Witch
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: video game that came out in, like, 2018 or something?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Hang on.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: There was, like, a more recent one, wasn't there? Yes.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Or did it actually ever get released? Because I remember
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: hearing about it. It did. Okay. I remember hearing about it,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: but I can't remember.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Blair Witch is a 2019 first-person psychological survival horror game.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: There you go. Okay. So the one I want to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: go back to is one that I think is one
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: of the most important ones, because a lot of the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: offshoot comics and books are about Rustin Parr. And again,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I find it fascinating that we get the most, I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: feel like we get the most information about Rustin Parr
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: and the Burkittsville Seven than we do the original person
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: accused of the witchcraft. But in the Blair Witch Project dossier,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: which was a book that released September 1st, 1999, this
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: basically takes all the information from the website, combines it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: with a number of personalities from Curse of Blair Witch,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: and cements it into print form. But the real treat
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: in all of this is Heather's journal from the website,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: a running commentary actually written by the actress herself during
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the film shoot that contains a bombshell twist about Heather
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: was sending out energy to the Blair Witch well before
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: she got her student colleagues to set foot in the woods,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: hoping to coax the ghost out in order to document
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: her on film. This not only adds an extra dimension
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: to the film, it also now turns the iconic I'm
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: sorry scene on its head. That is really fucking cool.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: That's something that I had, like, I didn't know about
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: any of this before, But that I was like, oh,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: that's interesting.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: See, and to me, that just solidifies my point of like, okay,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: so just Mike and Josh have horrible psychological breaks out there.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Heather was already crazy.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: So that just reaffirms my point on that.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So she was already crazy. you know, sending out
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: things to try and get her out there to film it.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: And that also kind of reinforces why she still is filming.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Cause I know a lot of people are like, why
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: would you keep filming? And she tries to explain why,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: but really.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: She, but that's, but that's what, but see what other
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: people don't understand is somebody has to do it first
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: for it to evolve into a cliche in the genre.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: So that's true. It's, it's, that is true.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: It's a thing that maybe Eduardo at the time didn't
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: know that was like going to be a thing later,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: but obviously it's, for story purposes, the person has to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: continue filming. So just make up bullshit ass excuses as
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: you go and just, no, we just got to keep
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: filming it. We just got to keep filming it. Somebody
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: has to do it first. And he did it first.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: That is true. I mean, that definitely set the trope of,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: you know, of people being like, well, why would this
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: actually be filmed? But with that dossier book and the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: diary entries that she, or the journal entry she has,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: it's like, well, Now we know why she was constantly filming.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: She was desperate to catch this thing on camera and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: didn't want to stop rolling unless she, unless she had to, or,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: or they were asleep. So there is so much that
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: goes into the movie itself outside with them, like outside
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: of it, with the mythology and all this lore built
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: around it, that to me now, as already a fan
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: of this movie, has increased my love for this movie
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: because not only did they sell this as real, but
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: they kept expanding the world outwards as far as they could. Now,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Book of Shadows, again, I enjoy it. It's a vibe.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: It's like early 2000s horror. It has an aesthetic. Uh,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: it's not the greatest movie of all time, but it
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: is interesting because it is the first movie, one of
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: the first movies to be a sequel to something that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: was assumed to be real. So they watched, you know, like,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: you know, in the book of shadows, they see the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: movie and then they go out to investigate, but it's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: not a mockumentary. It's not a documentary. It is traditionally filmed.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: that's also kind of another first, and I feel like
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: that movie gets a lot of hate, probably because they
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: strayed away from the mockumentary format, but also because, like,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: why would you need to make a sequel? Well, they're
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: trying to capitalize off the success of the first one.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: That's how fucking sequels work, my friend. The only other
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: movie I know that did that was The Last Exorcism.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: For some reason, The Last Exorcism Part 2 goes from
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: found footage to just regular-style shooting. What the fuck's going
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: on here? So as much as the book of shadows
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: gets hate, I watched it, I think earlier this year
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: or last year. And I was like, you know what? This,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: this is a fun movie. It's, it's not perfect. It's
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: not on the level of the Blair witch, but it's,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: it's still a vibe. It's a very heavy early two
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: thousands vibe. That's what, that's where I'll leave it. And
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: that's where I kind of grew up, you know, quote
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: unquote with horror. So.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: And then speaking of vibes, because we've pretty much only
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: talked about the vibes of these movies.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give an ultimate nutshell of the story.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: For Blair Witch Project.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Let's hear it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: Just because we haven't explained what happens yet in the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: movie technically. So three people, Heather, Mike, and Josh, film crew,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: going to do a documentary in the woods about the
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: Blair Witch. Go into the woods, get lost. Mike gets
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: rid of the map because he thinks it wasn't working anyway.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Fight, fight, fight.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Creepy noises at night.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Fight, fight, fight.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: Walk, walk, walk. They see shit in the trees.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Fight, fight, fight.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Walk, walk, walk.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Movie's over.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. And that's why I wanted to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: spend so much more time about the mythology and the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: lore because ultimately at the end of the day, there's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: not a lot of, and it's not a shade to
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Eduardo Sanchez in any way, shape or form, but there's
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: not a lot of meat and potatoes to the story.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: It's about, you know.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: If anything, it's more flowers to Eduardo because how did
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: you make what you made, how you made it, and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: have it on, I don't even know how many times
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: I've watched this movie now. How is it still good?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: How does it still feel like the first time I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: watched it? How does it grip me? How do I
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: listen to Heather scream Josh and clip her fucking audio
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: for the last three minutes of the movie?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Like no other movie will I allow to do that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: to me, but the Blair Witch Project just has that sauce. Like,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: and I don't, I don't even think it can be quantified.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things that like it happened and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: because it happened, it is what it is and it
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: will forever be what it is. Like you, you only ever,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, yours, yours is picked up a little bit.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: But you generally only develop one of two opinions of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: the Blair Witch. Oh my God, this is fucking awesome.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: It is a landmark in cinema. Or that was fucking stupid.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Nothing happened.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I hated it.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Like there's never any in between. And you can poll
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: the same person who's seen it 10 years later and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: generally their answer is still going to be the same.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: But I, and I, and I, you're, you're an outlier though.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: You, cause you said, eh, when I watched it originally,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't like it all that much, but it's kind
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: of grown on me. Well, I remember, I remember my
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: first time watching it. I'm almost positive. It was at
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: Kyle's house and I was blown the fuck away. I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: was like, Oh my God.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: How old were you? Like, like you were probably younger, right? Like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: It came out in 99, so what do you think? 9, 10,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: 11 years old. Right. So I saw it for the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: first time probably in my late 20s, and that was
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: in my very just film, I don't know why, just
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: film snobby era. But once I, like I said, once
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: we started the podcast and I revisited it, I was like, oh,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: I understand the merit now. And this is one of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: those movies that you do have to appreciate the timeframe.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Like I've mentioned before, all of the stuff leading up
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: to this, they built this method. Like you have to
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: take that into account when you watch the movie. I'm
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: not saying it makes the movie better, but the fact
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: is they did so much work to convince everyone. This
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: was real. I think that deserves praise. some sort of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: respect and realizing that this was really just pre internet,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: you know, boom. I mean, this came out six months
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: before Y2K when we thought all the computers were going
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: to fucking stop for no reason at all. So yeah,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: for the timeframe and it's in, and ultimately again, it
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: did something that no other film has really done before
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: and for this sub-genre. I mean, I can think of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: one other movie that had this big of an impact,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: and that's Halloween from 1978. That set off the slasher
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: boom of the 80s. Fucking The Blair Witch Project set
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: off the found footage boom of the 2000s. Like, you
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? So I feel like that's kind
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: of where The Blair Witch sits. And again, one of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: the most profitable films of all time. Not one of
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: the highest grossing movies of all time, but when you
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: have a $ 60 budget... And you have fucking $ 250 million. Like, whew, man.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: I really hope they took care of Eduardo because, you know, sometimes.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, with all those Star Wars figures. That's true.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's doing okay.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: And with, you know, every time they, like, so I have,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: by the way, let me mention this because I think
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: this is funny. Tripping in Star Wars. Yeah. No one
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: can see this, but Corey, but I have this right here.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: It's a steelbook. It's the Blair Witch Project and Blair
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Witch from 2016. It's really cool. However, you can see
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: right here, this says Blair Witch. this is actually the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Blair Witch Project for some reason, and the one labeled
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: the Blair Witch Project is actually Blair Witch from 2016.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know who fucked this up, if this is
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: a rare issue. Does anybody else have this steelbook that
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Walmart put out? Because when I put in the Blair
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: Witch Project, when I first got this, I was like,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: this is the win... Okay, did I put the wrong... No? Yeah,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: so literally, the discs are labeled.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: I wonder if they did it on purpose.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Do.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: Mind bendy. Fuck you. That's why.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I find that interesting. I also have a
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: second site release of this, which is region B and
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: I don't even have a region B player. I will
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: one day, but it has a new cut on there
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: and they've, and they redid the, I think they took
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: the original 16 millimeter footage and kind of re, you know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: revamped it. And then I just purchased the ultimate collection
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: of Blair Witch Project from fucking someone else recently. And
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: then I had the DVD. So I didn't realize how
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: many copies I had until I was going through them.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, I've got four going on five copies. But,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is. So I figured
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: I would mention that because I thought that was funny.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: So if anybody else out there has the Walmart DVDs,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: steelbook of the double feature of Blair Witch Project and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Blair Witch from 2016. Please let me know if yours
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: are mixed up as well, because if they're not and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: I have this random, just mysterious copy, I feel like
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: that's weirdly worth a lot of money. And I don't
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: know why, because people love defects and things and things
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: that aren't supposed to be.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: So have you have you tried changing their position in
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: the case?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: That's the equivalent of, have you tried turning it off
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: and turning it back on? So, yeah. So the reason
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: we're doing this one, even though it doesn't really contain
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: a witch and this is witch month, which I don't
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: even know if I announced on Death Ship.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: The name is literally The Blair Witch Project.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: It fucking counts. That's what I'm saying. So you don't
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: see the witch, you know, whatever, but it felt fitting
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: to do just because there is, with the recent news
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: of a new reboot coming out, And again, it's Witch Month,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: which is in the title. So it just felt natural
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: to do. I think I'm about out of stuff to talk.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I could go on for, again, just like
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: our last episode on Terrified. Like, I could go on
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: for another 20, 30 minutes. But we're at about a
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: good time to kind of transition. Unless there's anything else
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: that you would like to mention or touch on before
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: we kind of wind down here.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's one of those movies that you, like,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: you owe it to yourself to watch, and you owe
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: it to yourself to watch it in the dark at night.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Night.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: Granted, I watched it at 8 a.m.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: This morning. It still hits.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: It still hits at 8 a.m. But, like, this is
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: a 10 o'clock midnight movie. If you want to get
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: real saucy with it, you try and tie it. Yeah,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: you try and time it on the... When she says
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: 3 a.m., you time 3 a.m. to hit at that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: part in the dialogue. That's ridiculous, but I'm sure both
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: you and I have done it at one point independently.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when she's like, what time is it? Oh, it's
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: 3 o'clock. And I was like, the wishing hour! So...
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: All right, well, if that is all we have, that
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: was the Blair Witch from 1999. Let's head into the
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: final cut. All right, so taglines. These are from various years,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: from various different releases, I'm sure. This is just the summer,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: or no, this is, sorry, this is the opening text.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: In October 1994, three student filmmakers disappeared into the woods
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: near Burkittsville, Maryland, while shooting a documentary. Dot, dot, dot.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: A year later, their footage was found. Um, the scariest
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: movie of all time is a true story scarier than
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: the exorcist. So this one obviously was a tagline that
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: came out after Cloverfield before Cloverfield. There was the Blair
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: witch project, uh, scary as hell. And everything you've heard
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: is true. Trivia here. This was verified through Eduardo Sanchez.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: The directors kept in touch with actors Heather, Michael, and
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Josh via walkie-talkies to ensure the three would not become
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: lost during their trek. But I remember Eduardo saying they
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: did get lost a couple times. Like I mentioned earlier,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: Heather Donahue's mother received sympathy cards from people who believed
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: that her daughter was actually dead or missing. The film
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: is in the, or sorry, was in the, I guess
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: they took it out? Anyways, the film was in the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Guinness Book of World Records for top budget box office ratio.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: For a mainstream feature film, the cost was $ 60, 000. It
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: made $ 248 million. So basically, for every dollar spent, they
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: made $ 11, 000. That's crazy.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: Insane.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: One of the video cameras used by the actors was
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: bought at Circuit City. After filming was completed, the producers
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: returned the camera for a refund, making their budget go
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: even further. I'm pretty sure he... Confirm that too. It
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: took eight days to shoot the film, but eight months
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: to edit the film. Because I remember Eduardo saying they
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: ran into a lot of issues with the editing.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: And they also had like a full eight days worth
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: of film too.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like they had so much film because. Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: It was like a full eight days worth of film.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So here are some of the dumbest goofs that
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: I love. Most of these are petty. The last one
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: almost sent me into psychosis. So after waking up to
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: find stone piles surrounding their tents, the group decides to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: walk south for the day. However, they continue to walk
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: towards the sunrise, which would be east. Fuck off. In
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Mike's reference to The Wizard of Oz, he asks, Wicked
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Witch of the West, Wicked Witch of the East, which
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: one was bad? Heather answers, Wicked Witch of the West
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: was the bad one. Actually, both witches were bad. Which
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: of the North was the good one? Fucking who cares?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: Instead of crossing the same stream several times, all they
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: had to do was follow it until they found the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: edge of the woods. A basic outdoor survival skill.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Jessica kept saying, why aren't they following the stream?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: A basic outdoor survival skill that occurs to none of them. Apparently,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: the characters grew up in a suburban comfort and have
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: little outdoors experience. I would probably say that's accurate. And
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: then this one. This one right here. This is so psychotic.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: surely Heather's camera had a playback feature. They could have
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: just found their way back by viewing all the footage
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: she had shot up until they started having problems and
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: just worked backwards. What? In the woods? No, dude. That's crazy.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: That had like 49.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: That had like 40.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: And one of them was an actual film camera.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't replay the fucking 16 mil. Anyways... Rated 6.5
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: out of 10 on IMDb. That gives us a 3.25
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: out of 5 on our Nightmare Index rating system. 3.23
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: on Letterboxd, which is pretty on par there. But then
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: we get an 86% on the Tomatometer and a 57%
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: audience score, which I find interesting. What do we have
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: for this movie, Corey?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: I gave it a 4.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: All right, I have since upped it to a four
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: and a half. So that gives us a Frightmares certified slap.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: And I don't think I did this for Terrified. So
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: Terrified also gets a Frightmares certified slap. I've been missing
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: the slaps lately. So that gives us a.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Nightmare Index of a 3.74. I swear to God I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: included it on here, but I guess I didn't. I
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's going to be quite towards the top.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll have to do from the corrections department
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: for Death Ship and this one on the next episode
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: since I'm behind and ahead all at the same time.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Similar movies according to IMDb. We have Paranormal Activity, Blair Witch, Wreck,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: The Ring, and As Above So Below. Similar movies according
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: to Letterboxd. Paranormal Activity, The Ring, The Strangers, Slenderman, The Haunting,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Fucking sure. Alright, let's do
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: some funny reviews and get the hell out of here.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: I have six, but, you know, just brought some backups
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: just in case. I have four. Alright, well, I'll let
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: you go. I don't want us to overlap. I did
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: take the most popular one because it was the funniest,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: but If you took that one, you can go ahead
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: and read it.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: I have no idea what was most popular. A two-star
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: no heart from Meg, who is a patron. It took
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: me 20 additional minutes to finish this because about halfway through,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: my television turned itself off, and I thought they just
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: put the camera in their pocket or something.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: That's the one.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Mine says two and a half, though. Is yours a two? Oh,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: did I say two? I meant two and a half. Okay, yeah,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: that's the one I had, so that's funny. All right,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: let's go to three and a half stars from Hung Cat. Oh, my.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: I have that one.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: All right, fuck it. I'll go to the next one.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Four stars from Lily. Turns out it was Anya Taylor-Joy
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: all along. All right, you read the one from Hung Cat.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: From Hung Cat.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: From pro member Hung Cat. Put some respect on his name.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: Three and a half star and a heart. No cell
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: phone in sight. Literally just film students vibing in the woods.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: To be fair, cell phones weren't that popular yet, but still,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: that's great. Let's see. Three and a half stars from
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Adam Bolt. Do you have that one? No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Damn, those were some spooky rocks. Those rocks were indeed spooky.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll go to my lowest rated one because it
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  Speaker 4: actually has, I almost got scared and thought I read
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  Speaker 4: the wrong name because this is for a one and
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  Speaker 4: a half star no heart from pro member The Ron.
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  Speaker 4: Son of a bitch, those rock piles and bundles of
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  Speaker 4: sticks were scary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is actually funny because we were already
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  Speaker 3: in the room ready to record, and I found this review,
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  Speaker 3: and it's what I did for my intro, where four
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  Speaker 3: and a half stars from one last helper. Maybe the
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  Speaker 3: real Blair Witch are the friends we lost. Oh, lost
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  Speaker 3: along the way. Oh, I said made along the way.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so there's a little bit of a switch
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  Speaker 3: up there. All right. Is that all from you? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: one more.
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  Speaker 4: No, my last one, a four star and a heart
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  Speaker 4: from Siobhan. Miss Blair Witch decided she couldn't handle the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: sound of these bitches constantly arguing anymore. And you know what?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: Good for her.
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  Speaker 3: Good for her. This one is going to speak to
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: Jessica because Jessica couldn't stand Heather, apparently. And that's funny
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: coming from a woman. I find that very interesting. Three
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  Speaker 3: and a half stars from Allure. I know Heather gets
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of hate, but personally, I don't think she
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  Speaker 3: gets enough. all righty then uh if you enjoy the
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• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: at Dr. Proctor, all one word. Corey, you are?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: Frightmares Corey.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Boo to the yah. If you'd like to expand your
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: movie podcast listening, be sure to check out The Shameless
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: Picture Show, The Dead Eye Millennial Film Club, and One
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Week Rental as well. Next week, Gabby and I will
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: be doing The Love Witch from 2026 as our deep
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: cut pick. This shit is everywhere, dude. Peacock, Tubi, Screenbox, Pluto, Plex,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: and the Criterion channel. Holy shit. There's no excuse not
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: to watch this. It looks like it's straight out of
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: the 70s, but it's from 10 years ago. It's got
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: like a 3.5 out of 5. My wife has been
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: dying to talk about this movie, and neither one of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: us have seen it, but we are very excited to
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: review it. So until next week, guys, stay tuned and
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  Speaker 3: stay spooky.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for listening.
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