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SpaceX Starship SN9 Launch Dates and Updates 12-28-2020 · Elon Musk Podcast

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Hello everybody. Welcome, welcome to the show.
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I have Neil and Mel with me today.
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How's everyone? Now you're here too.
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I hope you're having a great day and have a happy holiday so far
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and enjoyed yourselves going to be talking about some sn9.
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I got a new mic Logan you are right I'm still working out the
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bugs on it though had some issues with it with my last
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video where I was really busy. See somebody coming couple
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people commented that my bike was superb AC but I got to
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figure It out. Well, you're not gonna believe
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this but we're wearing the same t-shirt today.
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No, we are, I got to go change. Hold on guys.
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Take this off. That is funny.
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That's good. That's that's what everybody's
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been waiting for. Yeah, the pause button Kyle.
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Yeah, exactly. There's thanks so much.
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You are amazing. So Yeah.
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So we're all good. We're going to talk about some
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sn9 stuff today. SN 10 of course, is coming up
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next and talk about that to t-shirt.
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No. But we're that's a lot more than
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three Euros that. Yeah, I'm little, I'm a little
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bit more, more expensive than that Debs.
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Oh, man, so now that I'm super embarrassed.
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Thanks Debs You're the best. That was my fault, actually.
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So so let's talk about sn9. Because we got to get there.
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We got to get serious here. This is serious business.
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Andre, welcome. I said nine is on the pad.
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Sn9 is getting ready to Launch. Sometime in the near future.
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Okay, sometime in the near future as an idea was pulled out
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to the pad test pad because it was in the bay, I'm going to tip
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over in the bay, it got hurt, some of the fins, some of the
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flaps got injured, and they got replaced.
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And now it's out on the pad. And we're awaiting testing for
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this Beast of a rocket. It's its massive, and I can't
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wait for this thing to fly. So, Neil.
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Hell hi. I'm just going to kind of skip
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over this little bit. How high do you think SN is
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gonna get a fly? I think they'll do twelve and a
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half kilometers again. With this in mind, I think
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they'll do the exact same thing and tried perfect, what they've
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got before before they move on, okay?
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So you think 12 and then the next and then the next time sn9
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flies will go higher. The next time estimate sighs,
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you heard it here folks. You think I said I was going to
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fly twice or more so that would be sweet Debbie's feet.
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I think they learned enough on sn8 that they'll stick The
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Landing. There's no reason why it can't
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fly get in my mind. That would be sweet.
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That would be sweet. Yeah, I think it s N9 12.5.
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And then do you think it'll go up to 15 after?
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Do you think you go 20th at? Let me know, think it would go
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up to 1520 figure out. I'm trying to in my mind trying
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to figure out what the point of going higher would be if you're
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not going to orbit like 12 and a half kilometers of versus 30
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kilometers. There's really no difference for
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them. It the rocket reaches terminal
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velocity on his way down. So it's not like it's going to
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fall any faster or have anything weird happen.
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They showed it was controlled flight using the flaps and I
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don't know that there's any reason to go higher unless
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you're going orbit. So, SN 10 straight to orbit that
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be pretty soon. That's intense.
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This is keep going. Well, I think they amazing.
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I mean, the next thing, the next thing to test would be the heat
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shield, right? Yeah, yeah.
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So, they have, they have a little bit of heat shield on
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sn9. So, yeah, you know, the, I guess
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every launch, maybe add a little bit more heat shield to it.
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That'd be cool. You know, a little bit more.
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Here's a, here's a picture. It would be you.
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It would be amazing to see them. Start the slap the heat shields
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on to us and 10. Yeah, the hard.
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That would be cool. Yeah.
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Right now we have this on us and 9 which is yeah it's like a
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little blob of heat shield. It's not, you know it's not much
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so you know we got a I think I think that's a what's really
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important is to get get it up to as high as I can get it and then
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terminal velocity on the way down.
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Make sure that the heat shields stay on there and don't fall off
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very true you know, that's better.
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Might that might be why they do a higher test.
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You know what, while they do a 12.5 now and then they boost the
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coming so they could put humans in this thing. 30 got ya until
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they put humans this thing. They've got hundreds of flights
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to go. Yeah.
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So there's no rush here. They're going to test everything
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and make sure that everything that they've tested is
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redundant. Yep.
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Exactly. And I think, you know, once they
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once they get past like this initial flight of sn9 and
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they'll take a look at it and see what mess.
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It up or if anything messed up, who knows?
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SN 10, B, B2. It's a total copy of sn9.
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I mean, there's a little bit of guts little bit different, but
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not that much. Yeah, the biggest difference, I
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guess, is the SS 9 is all the same steel as opposed to two
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different varieties but that's a, that's the only real
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difference. Yeah.
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And it didn't make a difference on this anyway.
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So, yeah. So that's a, that's a good
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indication of what's to happen in the future.
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Greg, Greg Smith has a good point here.
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He's curious how much weight is added with the half a Starship
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covered. He tells absolutely that's one
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of the issues that they have to test and do with is how much
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does half the ship being heavier?
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Change the flight path. Yeah it'll be bottom-heavy at
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that point a little bit. I'm not sure how much each one
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of those heat shields ways but there's a ton of them.
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Yeah there's a there's a lot of those things.
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So it covers a whole like almost half of the thing so if not
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half, so it's a lot. Remember as well to tag space
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these pots with any questions that you have at space space,
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space news, space pod to make sure that we can see your
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messages. Yeah, like lookin just did, do
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you think it can? If they can can't stick The
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Landing for a while, they will delay the moon missions.
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I think they'll be okay. Well, it slightly different on
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the moon, right? Yeah, I'm going to be using
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thrusters more than anything else for the moon landing.
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So it's a whole different ballgame.
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That's a, that's a whole another test.
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That's a couple of days along test their have to do.
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Yeah, there might be a couple of a couple of scrap, Tess ends on
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the moon, we're all done. So yeah.
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I mean, that's that's a total possibility.
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We're going to have some space junk on the moon in the future,
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and I have to go fix it. Clean it up.
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They're gonna have to send it or or maybe.
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Will fall horizontal and they can finally use this thing.
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It's a supposed to on the moon as it habitat, as it happens at
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horizontal or a habitat. Yeah, it's like a giant trailer
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that that be awesome, man, that'd be great.
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I really hope they do. It's just what I'm really
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concerned about with. That is the fuel, you know?
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Like, you can't really breathe in fuel tanks, you know, and
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fuel tanks. Take up a decent size of this
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thing. So, you know, when you book your
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tanks, there's nothing. Fuel tanks.
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That won't like oxygen and one of them which is fine.
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Yeah. The other is methane which it
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will off gas and be fine as well.
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So yeah, that's true. There's actually nothing in
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there. That's that's terribly toxic to
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humans true. Obviously, he can't just breathe
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that method, right? But it will clear out pretty
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easy. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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I mean, it with the atmosphere there, it'll just kind of what
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do you think? It'll just float away?
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I don't know how it works up there on the moon.
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It's different Aunt, the other Moon's, the moon's, constantly
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being assaulted by the Sun. So any atmosphere that's on
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there is just being wiped away so it would just simply be
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become space matter. Oh, cool.
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Okay. So I'm going to, I'm going to
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give you guys a quick shot of what sn9 is where it's at.
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Right now, it's on the pad, it has a crane and this is a shot
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from Lab Padres YouTube channel. It's a still image, but you can
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see the crane is really close by Cryo tests, Etc.
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All those things have to happen before, sn9 launches.
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And as we have to have cryo test, we have wet dress flap
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tests, static fires, all that stuff, but there's a crane right
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there. Good.
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They move that crane before they do anything.
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I think that cranes pretty far away.
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I think that your remember that thing.
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Lifted, sn9 onto the Smelt. So yeah, it's almost as tall as
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SN 9 is 9 is now. So it's fair battle way back, I
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think. Yeah, right now the road is
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closed, though. So they could be doing anything
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they want at this point. Yeah, they could be doing flap
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test today. They could be doing, you know,
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cryo test would be okay, you know, static fire.
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Maybe I mean set afire. Wouldn't be bad because that
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crate like you said the cranes kind of far away so static fire
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could totally work quickly. Look at the sapphire came here
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to see Different angle. Yeah, it's quite a ways away.
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Okay cool, it's an optical illusion.
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The cream might be 500, 600 feet away Greg, you are absolutely
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correct. If you go to the if everybody
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goes to the sapphire, cam out loud Padre, you'll see how far
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Are we in actually is yeah, but go after the show, don't go
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rata. The screenshot is for 35
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minutes. Yeah, it's for a while ago.
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That's for a while ago. So, yeah, just want to show you
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guys where it's at like where where it's near and that there
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is a crane there that brought it out there Deb's.
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Thanks so much for the super chats.
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Are those just coming in or are those from earlier and the Bots?
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Finally, catching up to it. Take the possibly catching up.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. But as well.
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Yeah. Okay.
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How out there is, Kyle says, this is our true fate Neil
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living in used fuel tank. Scavenging science from
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dilapidated SN husks. Yeah I think so.
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I think so. I think that's where we're at
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and be happy to do it. Yep.
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In the future, we'll have that. That's what we're got to look
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forward to guys. That's what we're looking
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forward right now. I've got the tiny little, tiny
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little Lander. It's barely fits two people.
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Yep, so soon enough. Yeah, soon enough, we'll be on
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the moon. Like digging around in that
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giant tank, so I glossed over them.
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But the next steps for us and 9 have to do the Flappy Bird on
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the other flaps. The got a flap, the flap, the
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flaps. Other than make sure those
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things work. They have to do a cryo test and
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and explain what a protest is real quick before we move past
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it. Okay, so cry test is basically
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the The. Pussy.
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Let me let me think for a second here.
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Okay, can you? Yeah, they refill the tank, they
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filled all the tanks with or one at a time.
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Not sure how they do that, but they fill the tanks with liquid,
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nitrogen to basically freeze them as well, as pressurize
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them, so that they know there's no leaks and there's no damage
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and, and whatnot with and liquid nitrogen is we'll just off gas
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into the atmosphere. So it's no big deal, easy to get
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cheap to get, and And that's why these that and if anything
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happens with that, they'll stop all the all the tests and kind
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of figure out what the heck went wrong.
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And then they'll have to be go back and do that test again,
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which why do you? It could take a little bit of
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time, but it's totally worth it because then the rocket doesn't
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explode because they'll set you know you have to pressure the
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pressurised these things up. So for sure.
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Yeah and some of the essence in the past have failed during the
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crowd test. So yeah.
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Custom implosions going on for sure.
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Kyle says, how many of these tests can they do in a day in a
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week? Man, that's that's a tough one
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because we haven't really seen a, we've only seen one full.
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We haven't seen the full operational battle station.
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That is basically. We haven't seen them saying,
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okay, we've done the crowd test. Let's do a static fire next.
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Let's load it up, right? I would think they could do was
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fast as they could fill them if they get to that point.
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Yeah, there's no reason to wait. Really.
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Yeah, they can do it all in a day, they're launching their
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launching SM, whatever. And so that fires the rockets
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and then two minutes later, ten minutes later, they have to fire
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them again to land. So, you know, they have to have
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that quick turnaround for launching these things and turn
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on relaunch, relighting the Rockets I should say.
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So it's all has to happen very fast in the air.
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There's no reason they couldn't do that on the ground.
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Yeah, yeah. And they, you know, I think it's
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possible, they could do it all in one day, but they're just
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figuring out the process right now.
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So, you know, sn8 was the first to kind of go through the full
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process and actually launch and well Land Air quotes land.
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I guess I landed technically, but, you know, there just to
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give an idea process right now. The path is clear.
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And S naught, s N9 is pressed at the moment.
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Oh, nice. It's all right, there we go.
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So they're doing testing right now.
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All right. All right and then next up
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there's gonna be some venting bunch of venting I'm sure for
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the farm and then the priest if they're actually going for a
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crowd test today, then you'll start to see venting from the
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farm happen and then the re condenser starts and off.
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They go nice. And then, that's pretty
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exciting, that's very exciting. So I want to show you guys this
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T, which is kind of funny and it's like a kind of side thing,
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but from I was saying before sn8 landed right at cratered and it
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blew up. So somebody made a joke post on
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Craigslist near Boca Chica for slightly used nose or slightly
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damaged nose cone for free, which I thought was cowers,
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please come. Take it away.
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Yeah. One slightly used in charge nose
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cone from a Starship rocket, great for the new, that new car
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port. You want to add to your Trailer
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bring a large vehicle and some extra help as this item is
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heavy. See, pick for details.
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U-Haul amazing. Amazing.
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It's where I fix those two days ago, they didn't fix.
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I just got to hit him. I just get like tap them real
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quick, so I thought that was funny.
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That was a little side thing that I saw somewhere.
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I found it somewhere out on the internet.
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I'm not sure where but it's a decent-sized house.
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Yeah. That would be pretty decent.
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I wouldn't. That wouldn't be good.
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What are they going to fix the concrete pad?
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I'm surprised they haven't jumped all over that.
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Considering they're testing Us in nine right now.
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Yeah, I don't know. I know they're in the process of
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fixing it or they're in the process of figuring out how to
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fix it because they still have junk all over it.
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But yeah. Probably within the next week
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I'm assuming they're just going to clear all that stuff out.
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But what do you do with that? Sna nose cone you know where
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they could have put it. I guess it's a big it's a big
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yard so they can just kind of like push it off to the side.
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With the rest of the stuff, but they have to do.
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You think they're still doing a formal investigation of all the
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parts there because it's possible?
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They are, you know, they're working on this stuff.
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Yeah. It's quite possible for sure.
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You know, that they're probably just also trying to figure out
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what to do with that I was going because I don't want to scrap
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it. So yeah, I'll try to figure out
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where that's going to go and so they're just leave it there for
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the moment. Yeah.
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So yeah. But you know they do have a hole
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in the landing pad will have to fix that for sure at some point.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's a big ol hole to I have a picture of it somewhere off to
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find it but there is a there's a big ol hole out there.
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It's like a giant giant crater is that?
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I guess it isn't giant but it's a it's a lot of mess there.
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Well, I had a picture of it but Don't have it handy.
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So basically the thing made a giant ring when it landed and
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they have to dig it out basically Jack Hammer it out and
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then re pour the concrete and that takes a little while to to
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like firm up. So the remove sne, all that
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stuff, Jackhammer all that's in it.
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I think that that could be done in a day the jackhammering and
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like, refilling can be done within 24 hours.
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Probably Yeah. And then it's going to take a
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few days to cure that. Yeah.
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Much as they want it to cure. So we're definitely looking at
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mid January for a launch of s N9.
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I think. Yeah I just based on the pace
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that they're going out right now.
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I think the holidays were perfect time to fix that that
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pad if they wanted to so and they didn't so I don't think
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they're in a hurry. Yep.
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Yeah I agree with you. I agree with you.
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So here the starships are piling up behind it so they better get
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going. Yeah.
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Yeah. They once they get this pad
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fixed and Hopefully nothing else.
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Craters it. Yeah.
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They're just going to be launching these things left.
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And right. I said 10 is up next, it's in
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the bay right now and it is ready to get all the components,
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you know, as much as I can. And as much as they have their
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that was cone has its flaps on. Yes and hens and high Bay.
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It's getting work done on it and all the wiring and plumbing and
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all the rest done. Next step is to move the nose
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cone over and get it attached. It's got the guides that The
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product of the top of Santana are there, so it's ready to go.
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Yeah yeah. So you know we don't have any
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information about SN 10 engines which enters the going to be
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using for it or if they're actually in the in the bay with
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it right now. But I think I've seen pictures
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of, I think I've seen pictures of s and tens engines there on
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site, I believe. I just don't know if they're in
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the bay with us until right now. So we'll see, we'll see the next
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couple days because we'll get some more information from from
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our sources from are sneaky sources.
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Well, we have two questions and chat, you were tagged.
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So skm says, when do you think the first prototype of the
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super-heavy will be done? Super heavy.
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Let me think. Couple months, probably.
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If you need to go get Scrappy's so you can prognosticate this,
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that's fine. Yeah I need to I think I need
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Scrappy. Yeah, well Elon Musk.
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So here we go. I got I actually got this one
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here. I was looking it up.
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So how far out is a super heavy hop?
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A few months as he leant on Twitter.
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So I was ready for that one. I don't need Scrappy but I Now
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she's somewhere else to somewhere else.
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We don't need her. So super heavy is going to
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happen, a couple couple months now, SN 10, what do you think
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that's going to watch? Because if they do sn9 made this
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month they're gonna get the process better and if it
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actually lands they can clean up really quick.
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Just move the thing with a crane.
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And then SM 10 should be ready. What do you think three weeks
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from now, there's there's people suggesting that we might see us
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at intend on the launch. Mount one before I said nine
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launches really to Starships on, Wow, Oz, that would be insane,
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that was insane. Like that's that fast.
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Iteration that the law has been wanting this whole time, right?
22:40
Yeah. At that point, you could have SN
22:42
10 flying within three weeks of Sni flying and that lady dazing,
22:46
that's what they want. Yeah, they want to do it as fast
22:49
as possible. Yeah.
22:52
So, what was the we know? We, we know he's pushing for
22:55
this. Oh yeah, yeah, totally.
22:58
He wants it done. Super fast turnaround.
23:02
So, as you guys are saying, steam O'Neill.
23:04
Actually, also tagged you and said, I think if they have two
23:07
pads and two rockets that can do tests much faster, we don't have
23:11
to wait weeks for preparations. So, right in line with what you
23:14
guys are saying, cool? Okay, yeah, I agree.
23:17
I agree. They got a jump through some
23:19
hoops together. Bad do such as landing pad and
23:22
the second took an orbital launches what they want as well.
23:25
So yeah. Because some hoops to jump
23:27
through with the FAA and Environmentally.
23:31
Yep. Yeah, there was a there was a
23:33
video that I released yesterday about the FAA paper, that was
23:37
just published a little bit ago, a little bit before Christmas
23:41
and I go over all the, all the little intricacies of that
23:44
paper. And you know what they, what
23:47
they need space act, or what they what they Envision SpaceX
23:50
doing in the future, which is basically having what they have
23:55
now, but expanding the facilities.
23:57
It also what's I'm really surprised about is that they
24:00
mention offshore Landing. And so in offshore Landing
24:03
facility offshore you know facility for launches so that's
24:07
pretty cool. I think it was about 12 miles
24:09
out or something like that because 12 miles out for these
24:12
facilities so that was really interesting and if you want to
24:15
check that out, just check out the latest video on the channel.
24:19
I don't have a link to it right away but just check it out.
24:23
But we got it's like a 15 minute video.
24:25
So can't really go over everything.
24:27
But I just basically told you the whole video in two seconds.
24:31
There you go. It's all done.
24:32
You don't need to watch the other video, never mind.
24:36
Imagine two Starships launching the exact same time that would
24:40
be sick but extremely dangerous team O'Neil.
24:42
Yeah, that would be really sick for sure.
24:45
That would be. Yeah, that would be sick.
24:47
I'd be. Whoa.
24:50
I don't know what I would do. I lost it for the SNA.
24:52
Belly flop. So if there were two Starship
24:54
slant launching and landing at the same time I'd flip out Milan
24:59
just thinking about it. Yeah.
25:01
Same here. I don't think they launched the
25:02
exact same time but you could certainly, you know, 30 seconds
25:05
apart or something would be pretty cool to see.
25:07
Kind of like the boosters from super heavy Landing the same
25:10
time, kind of the same idea. Yep.
25:13
Totally cool. I was just like, I'm just like,
25:16
it Hank has another. There's another blob in chat so
25:22
amazing. Yes, blob.
25:24
And heck the Blobfish fellow blob?
25:26
Nice, will. Did you see the look in the
25:30
Archer? He said, when do you think
25:32
they'll start testing super heavy?
25:36
Well, if he's if you want says, two months, a few months away
25:39
for super heavy, For the Hop. So they have pieces of SN of
25:48
sorry B and number one all over the place.
25:52
Yeah. In the build site so there no
25:54
don't seem to be a bit in a huge hurry to put it together.
25:57
I think that they're focusing on the SNS first.
26:01
To secure that technology before they wanted the other one.
26:05
Yeah, I agree with you that look like they're in a huge hurry.
26:07
Yeah, they need to do it but it's like the it's all the same
26:11
stuff, right? Except for the fins in the way
26:14
it lands. It's all the same stuff.
26:17
They're still filling it with the same fuel, they're still at
26:19
launching with the same Rockets or engines.
26:23
There's I don't think that they're just going to do when
26:26
they're ready, I think. Yeah I think the Super heavy is
26:31
going to have a habits time, but it's it's first and foremost
26:35
have to get Starship figured out first, you know.
26:40
You know as much as they can before they actually like
26:42
launch, a super heavy, but it's also like they need to get
26:45
Starship super heavy all together so they have to do
26:47
everything in it. But like you said whenever it's
26:50
ready, I think that's that's the best way to do stuff like that.
26:53
Whatever it's ready. You don't do it just to do it,
26:56
you know. Yeah.
27:00
So Yeah, we have a bunch of stuff to do for it, but like you
27:04
said, this is just it's the same fuel, same engines, you know,
27:07
just a more of them, you know. Maybe, I don't know how many
27:10
engines to get a lift this thing for the first time.
27:12
Nobody really does probably to mr.
27:16
A hop, just for 300 meter home here.
27:18
So let's just let's just grab me.
27:20
Alrighty, good scrap, you'll know the wizard dog, Scrappy the
27:24
wizard Dogma. Okay, let's ask you a really
27:26
quick Scrappy Number of licks equals.
27:31
How many engines super-heavy will have on launch.
27:34
Okay, are you ready, 505,000. Okay, here we go.
27:39
One, two, three. And lick one, two, three, four,
27:44
five, six, seven. That's gross.
27:47
You're disgusting, okay? Seven rocket engines not super
27:50
heavy when they launch that thing.
27:53
So we're going to we're going to see seven note.
27:56
It take a note. So 17 engines, I'm starting to
28:01
think. Scrappy doesn't know what she's
28:03
talking to him. I don't think you're right.
28:05
I think, I think you're just making that up.
28:09
I think you're making that up. She is a wizard, a space wizard.
28:12
She knows everything about everything.
28:15
So, scrolling up and chat. We have a question from the
28:17
cave. Greg wants to know will rocket
28:20
lab use Photon for the translunar injection.
28:24
The Who? Gummy is going to be honest?
28:30
Like I don't know I haven't to studied up on that yet.
28:34
It's really hard to. It's hard to know what NASA's
28:37
gonna do. Yeah.
28:40
Also knowing what NASA's going to do is just emo, Neil wants to
28:44
know, do you think NASA might borrow some technology from
28:47
SpaceX to possibly ever make reusable Rockets?
28:53
Um, I think they're just going to contract people.
28:56
I don't think they'll ever make their own analysis done and
28:59
making their own Rockets. Yeah.
29:01
I think they're over it. It's like it's too much work.
29:05
Yeah, this is way too expensive, too.
29:07
Yeah, that's that's the whole reason going commercial is.
29:11
It's just too much money for them.
29:13
Everybody overcharges them. That's what it is and they still
29:18
are and it's going to come to a head, I think yeah.
29:23
So, speaking of private rocket launches, I want to take a look
29:27
at the upcoming road closures, so we can kind of speculate when
29:32
the SM night launch dates going to be.
29:36
So we have road closure canceled for Thursday, December 17th
29:41
scheduled closures scheduled all the way up to were at the 27th
29:44
and 28th now so down here primary day the 28th 29th and
29:49
30th. So we have those already
29:50
scheduled so that's This week we also have schedules for next
29:54
week to foreclosures of next week.
29:56
I think Monday went Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I believe
29:58
from like 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. I believe for next week, it's
30:02
not on the schedule. So I don't want to refresh just
30:05
in case it's so I don't want to like give you guys any bad
30:08
information. But since we have Monday
30:10
Tuesday, and Wednesday of this week, you know, they're they're
30:14
going to do loading testing, venting flapping, all the really
30:19
easy stuff. Easy stuff, I believe.
30:24
And probably not a static fire this week though, probably not a
30:27
static fire this week, that's what I'm guessing.
30:32
They've got to press like that out.
30:34
If it gets, if they do a cryo test today then there's a
30:37
chance. Thursday will see you start a
30:38
fire? Yeah yeah that's possible.
30:41
Yeah and they work really fast so it's possible.
30:46
I just I don't know if it's I mean It's SpaceX.
30:50
So you never freaking no man they just go nuts.
30:54
Like they would want they want this stuff to happen in the
30:56
holidays are still here. So it's like Christmas to New
31:00
Year's and Beyond you know, a little bit like the day after
31:02
New Year's is kind of like holiday time, so they might not
31:05
have full staff there but they know one SpaceX.
31:08
Everyone's probably excited to be there.
31:10
So they didn't take, you know, a lot of time off, they're
31:13
probably like okay, took, you know, Christmas off for whatever
31:16
but I want to get back to work. So that's You know, it's
31:19
possible. They gave him the time off and
31:21
people just chose to go back. I don't know what the internals
31:25
are there. So we'll see.
31:28
We'll see so flight maybe maybe next week if they get static
31:36
fire done this week. It's possible that seems crazy
31:41
but it's possible. It's possible.
31:43
Right? I mean it really offering me.
31:45
Yeah, it seems crazy in a good way but I don't know.
31:50
That seems that seems pretty quick.
31:53
But once once they started rolling with sn8 though it was
31:57
it's pretty quick. You know, it was a couple weeks
32:00
for that for testing and everything.
32:02
So if they do all the testing all the initial testing this
32:04
week do static fire on Monday, you know Tuesday do some other
32:10
you know do another static fire possibly.
32:12
And then Wednesday next week we could have a launch if they get
32:16
everything done before then Flappy's and you know pressure
32:18
test and everything cryo tests. But that's really fast, so it
32:25
was really fast. That's super fasted.
32:27
Wishful with very wishful thinking very very wishful
32:30
thinking. I'm thinking mid-January though
32:32
for real? Yeah, I think so.
32:35
I think so I think it almost feel like there would be some
32:38
sort of hype at this point, if they were going to do it next
32:40
week, like we'd already be hearing about it.
32:44
Yum. But not, but the landing pad to.
32:50
That's, that's another thing that's gonna hold it back fixed.
32:52
It's got to be fixed. Everything has to move.
32:55
All those pieces have to be, you know, scrapped or whatever,
32:59
they're going to do with them. They have to move them out of
33:00
there. So the first indication is that
33:04
that crane will disappear. It'll go back up.
33:06
There's the road that's the first indication are going to be
33:08
doing anything static fire related or anything like that.
33:12
That crane way out of there. Yep.
33:14
Then we can all just get really giddy.
33:16
We can get really strong. Excited.
33:18
Yeah so yeah possibly you know, possibly what so, highly
33:24
speculative next week, launched probably never going to happen,
33:28
it's not going to happen and if it does, I'm going to flip out
33:31
but So mid, you think like mid-January?
33:38
I think that's going to happen. We got that.
33:43
Hey, thanks for the new Subs. By the way.
33:47
Appreciate all of your support, everybody.
33:51
We got some more questions. Let's see.
33:57
Yeah, we can Circle back to questions, so earlier skm and
34:01
asked, how many Raptors do you think will be on the super-heavy
34:06
77? According to my dog seven,
34:10
Scrappy's pregnant with wizard Scrappy.
34:14
Let's see. Logan, the Archer member of the
34:16
channels said space news pod. What do you think will be
34:19
better? New Glenn or Starship super
34:22
heavy? Woo.
34:27
Versus question. I don't know.
34:33
Well they both do similar things.
34:36
I dislike, I like Starship personally, I like Starship
34:40
better new glands going to be pretty rad though.
34:44
They can this new going to have a person a people integration
34:49
yet. I know the thing that really
34:52
stands out that know right now. It's just a space satellite.
34:55
Yeah, so yeah. So yeah, super heavy Starship.
35:00
Just for that, just for that reason alone, I heard murmurs
35:03
about it but I've never seen anything like realistic from new
35:09
Glenn about that yet. So no, they've got a pretty for
35:13
all their secrecy. They've got a pretty good
35:15
document about, you know, for design, for people who want to
35:18
use new Glenn to launch things in the space.
35:22
So, it's pretty detailed about how much space is up there and
35:25
whatnot. Yeah, yep.
35:28
So and there's nothing in there about it.
35:31
Yeah, it is. It's huge that that bay is
35:36
absolutely huge for the fairing. So yeah, it can hold buses.
35:41
I think you can hold like, for buses or something like that.
35:43
It's a ridiculous amount of buses.
35:45
Somebody. Somebody had like, are both
35:46
huge. Yeah, Rockets do me says your
35:53
dog licked E7 x to the 7th of January for a flight, maybe.
36:00
Let's next week next Thursday. Maybe I'll be cool.
36:04
She doesn't speak English very well.
36:05
Maybe she thought engines mid-January mate.
36:09
Yeah, baby, I don't know. She's pretty smart.
36:12
I think she got it right. Seven engines, 7 inches.
36:16
Yep. Super heavy.
36:17
I'm just gonna call it right now.
36:18
Seven engines there. Any other questions we need to
36:21
get through before we can move forward.
36:25
No, Steve O'Neal. And I believe Kyle we're having
36:28
a conversation about. If Neil Armstrong, didn't stop
36:31
private companies. Going to space would NASA.
36:33
Still be making Rockets So speculation, but it's an
36:37
interesting question to ask. It's very interesting question
36:40
to ask, for sure. I've got an idea but we'll do
36:45
you have any comments? I do go ahead.
36:48
You go first. Okay well I mean yeah that's
36:51
Neil Armstrong didn't personally have any any power to stop
36:55
people from making making Rockets so it wasn't Neil
36:59
Armstrong particular. It was a comedy perhaps he made
37:02
about stuff like that but I think that National budgets
37:07
really suffered as well after Apollo.
37:10
So the reason that the whole thing stopped at begin with just
37:14
the NASA budget and they put three through so much into space
37:17
shuttle that there's nothing left for anything else.
37:24
Yeah, that's my opinion. Yeah, Neil Armstrong didn't have
37:27
any power to stop anything. He's just had made some comments
37:30
and so yeah, it was very vocal and, you know, I think it's
37:36
Ilan. Yeah, Elon Musk actually had
37:38
like a video where he cried I believe because of Neil
37:40
Armstrong's comments. Now it was like on a like 10
37:44
years ago or something. Yeah, like a 60 Minutes
37:46
interview or something. I believe.
37:49
And you know, he'll I'm just, I think he started bawling because
37:52
of it because you are foxes hero, you know.
37:55
So when your hero says that you're not doing the right
37:57
thing, you're like this is not cool and then he just like burst
38:01
out crying and it's like, yeah, of course, like, that's the guy
38:04
that, you know, you look up to since you were a little kid like
38:07
this together walks in the moon. Come on, of course, of course,
38:10
you're gonna be upset about that but yeah, I think yeah like you
38:15
said no he had no real power. I mean, he had some pole I'm
38:17
sure because Has, he was Neil Armstrong, but I don't think he
38:22
had any any actual power. So yeah, that's cool question,
38:30
though. Good idea.
38:33
All right, let's do we got here today?
38:35
What? It says, on the, the old legenda
38:36
here, we got status of the Starship prototype.
38:39
So let me, let me bring this up and go to a couple more
38:42
questions. Okay, so these are all done.
38:46
I want to bring this up before we get into this, Brandon Lu or
38:49
Brendan Louis at Brendan 2908 on Twitter.
38:54
So Brendan 2908. So, check that out on Twitter
38:58
and I'll bring it up for you guys because I cover up his
39:00
name. I do know.
39:01
I don't actually so here we go. I was going to cover up his
39:03
name. So these are this is an
39:06
infographic of all the new like, the prototypes current
39:13
prototypes. Yeah, that are happening.
39:15
So that's a, that's a night. Is pretty much built right there
39:20
on the left side is built as it can get its on the pad.
39:23
So it should be as built as it can get.
39:26
I hope. So that's not going to launch.
39:28
As you can see, I sent n. There's no bottom flaps the nose
39:32
cone. Owen isn't on the nose cone it
39:34
with with the fairing. Is it on SN 10 right now?
39:36
Or is it fully stacked it? Because this is from the 27th, I
39:40
would seen it today. It's not a stacked yet, okay?
39:44
And then I said 11, they have a nose code notes on those.
39:47
Conferring, they're all these are all different pieces to.
39:50
If it's not stacked it'll show them as different pieces and
39:53
then we have the AFT dome in a skirt.
39:56
Noth-nothing stacked there, just in pieces and then SM Levin's
40:01
been moved into the midbass though so there they'll be
40:04
stacking that pretty fast. Yeah, yep.
40:07
So SN you know, SN nines ready pretty soon to launch SN 10 will
40:12
be right after it and then Levens getting stacked and ready
40:16
to roll right after I sent n. So, this is going to be an it
40:19
very interesting next two months, you know?
40:23
And I said 12, you know, these are, it's basically mass
40:25
production at this point, right? So they know how to make these
40:28
things and they just keep building.
40:31
The same thing. Repeatedly in s n, SN 15 is
40:34
going to be, or is it? Yes.
40:36
In 15 is going to be different, right?
40:38
Or is it a submissive 15 years? Steve daines going to have a lot
40:41
of changes, so yeah. Yeah.
40:44
Yeah, so, but we get as you can see those pieces.
40:46
So there are pieces in production.
40:48
Yeah, who knows how much different is going to be?
40:52
We, I know we've seen the different Puck that the, the
40:56
Raptors get attached to that's been redesigned for us in 15.
41:01
So, we know that that's different, just the way the fuel
41:04
gets to the Raptors, but anything else is speculation at
41:08
this point. Yep, yep.
41:10
And we're not sure you know, we just like you guys like we we
41:14
have as much information as you do and I send 15 right now it's
41:17
pretty, we just know that it's going to be different, you know?
41:21
We don't know exactly what's the internals or You know different
41:26
flaps or anything like that, but we saw a dramatic difference
41:30
between sna and sn9 the production quality.
41:33
So once we get to SN 15, I'm sure it's going to be super
41:36
refined. Like this could be shiny.
41:39
It's gonna be very yeah, even the flash on sna compared to S
41:41
N9. Like I said, it just looked like
41:43
somebody had a hammer. It was like smack it on the
41:45
fence, you know the flaps just to get them up there, you know,
41:48
we get them to like the right shape.
41:50
But asinine it's like nice and smooth.
41:52
Like the Contours are very nice, very Very Sleek design for the
41:56
sn9 flaps. So and everything else to
42:00
there's a really high resolution image of sna that I bring up
42:02
every once in a while. And it's just like, there's all
42:04
sorts of weird welds all over the place and they're still
42:06
drawings on it. I'm sure anybody anybody who's
42:09
built anything. Like I say you built a table for
42:15
your home. It's the first one you build is
42:17
going to look awful. It's going to have Pro errors
42:20
and problems. The second one is going to be so
42:22
much better and then at when you do the Fourth and fifth and
42:25
sixth those are going to be professional jobs, they're going
42:29
to be fantastic. It's the same thing with
42:31
building these Rockets. The first flap should build
42:34
awful. Second one's pretty good.
42:36
Third one's fourth, fifth six, they're going to look amazing.
42:39
Yeah, exactly. And it's going to be, it's going
42:41
to be absolutely amazing once they get up to SN 15 is going to
42:44
be. So so, well refined wow.
42:47
Thanks Arash for that, Super Chat.
42:50
Thanks so much. So much.
42:51
Yeah, have a happy holiday, man. Happy New Year.
42:53
Merry Christmas. Thank you.
42:57
Yeah, so yeah that's really really generous of you.
43:00
Thank you. Yes.
43:02
A 1. We get 2 SN 15.
43:03
It's going to look I think it's gonna look completely different.
43:08
So it's sort of like Falcon one compared to Falcon 9 at that
43:11
point is going to be that much different.
43:13
Maybe not that much but it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna
43:17
be six interesting. We can see under we can we've
43:20
seen parts of up to SN 17. Yeah, so there's quite a,
43:27
there's a possibility lesson, 17 isn't going to look all that
43:31
different than SN 9 and 10, maybe just cleaner.
43:35
Perhaps, but at some point, we're going to start to see some
43:41
major changes to the way things. Get welded the way things are
43:44
put together and supported inside and all the rest where it
43:49
just starts to look more like a Polished finished piece.
43:56
It's an amazing process to watch it and be a part of.
44:00
Yeah. And the It's going to be so
44:03
shiny. Yeah.
44:05
So excited sf-15 is going to look like like a, you know,
44:09
something from a sci-fi movie, What?
44:13
I watched sne belly flop, man. I was living in the future,
44:17
right then. I was I was so living in the
44:21
future. So I can't wait for us in 15s
44:25
and 17 s 1025. Whatever is far as they go wait
44:28
for it to be routine. Yeah.
44:31
Like speaking of, speaking of the future we can of the future
44:35
of of all of these grug actually asks from the cave and it might,
44:40
this might actually be fun topic for a video or another another
44:46
live show. But what features do we think
44:48
the new Armstrong should have, oh my goodness.
44:51
Who Yeah, you Armstrong is Armstrong for those.
44:55
For those who don't necessarily know new Armstrong is is the
44:59
blue origin answer to Starship. It's the one that's going to
45:03
probably carry people rather than New Glen to Glen via
45:07
launched orbit. Vehicle new new Armstrong is
45:11
probably going to be the Moon Mars vehicle for people.
45:16
Yeah. Blue origin and we don't really
45:18
know anything about it yet. We don't know the size.
45:21
Although they say that, Probably fit new Glenn inside the nose
45:24
cone of you Armstrong. But that's that's impossible.
45:29
That's that's even hard to believe.
45:31
So yeah. Anyway, so we don't know
45:34
anything about it yet but yeah, it would be amazing for to have
45:40
yet another vehicle to get people to Mars.
45:42
Yeah, and here's sort of that sort that second colony on Mars.
45:46
He's a, here's the image that I found on a Reddit real quick
45:51
about this. Think, I don't know if it's the
45:53
most up-to-date but new glint, like, come on.
45:57
It's getting ridiculous. It's like double wide of new
46:02
Glenn and new Glenn is absolutely massive new ones that
46:06
fairing is 6 meters. Yeah, how would they get a lift
46:12
this thing even possible? How they get a lift this?
46:14
How many engines do they need? What kind of endings do?
46:17
They need 7 according to Scrappy but they might be seven.
46:20
Yeah, seven engines. It's going to be, it's going to
46:24
be insane, it's specular everything speculation at this
46:26
point, but yeah, so any speculation actually says, is
46:33
blue origin. How is blue origin becoming so
46:36
ambitious? They haven't even gone to orbit
46:38
yet. Very, very impassioned pleas
46:41
who, you know what, Elon was ambitious before he flew to to
46:48
orbit, so, that's what you need to be in order to Get where you
46:52
want to go. Yeah, it kind of simple.
46:56
Yeah. And it kind of seems like blue
46:57
Origins taking the really slow path, you know?
47:00
And they kind the kind of were for a long time.
47:03
They were taking the slow and steady, make sure everything
47:05
works. Kind of path before they send
47:06
people to space but now they're the ramp it up because they have
47:13
NASA contracts coming up, you know, they have possible, NASA
47:16
contracts for moon landings and, you know, things of that nature.
47:19
So they have to show that they're doing something.
47:22
You know, and they have to show their work basically what it
47:24
comes down to and if they don't then they won't get these
47:28
contracts basically like if you can't show that you could do
47:32
these things then you're not going to get the contract and
47:34
that's millions of dollars hundreds of millions dollars and
47:37
future launches as well. So that's a giant Revenue stream
47:41
coming in from NASA. And then you'll get you know
47:43
like everybody else. You get the government contracts
47:45
through, you know, nro contracts, any sort of Defense
47:49
contracts, and that's like money that you don't have to spend
47:51
yourself. Elf that the government's going
47:53
to pay you to build these Rockets.
47:55
So you know even though you know Jeff Bezos I don't want to see
48:01
you might freak out Jeff Bezos, it hits the most money ever.
48:08
So why not, you know, why not use your own money but why not
48:13
use somebody else's money? It's much easier that way, you
48:16
know, some money much better. Yeah, somebody else's might be
48:18
so much better. Men.
48:21
It is it's going to be. It's going to be insane.
48:25
It's gonna be insane. Yeah.
48:26
I think blue Origins, trying real hard to get this next one,
48:29
right? Yeah.
48:30
They can't afford another failure.
48:32
Yep. And in except for some stupid
48:35
mistake, they would have been fine, been fine.
48:37
Last time I can orbit, you have just say there's a stupid human
48:42
error. What's the problem?
48:46
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's the the cool
48:50
thing about blue origin is, you know, they're they're still
48:52
working on stuff and we know that it's going to take a while
48:55
for them to get anything really concrete.
48:58
But when they start doing these, you know, when they start doing
49:02
launches in the next year or so, when I start testing things for
49:07
the moon missions, it's going to be it's going to be really cool
49:11
to see like in the Open what they do because currently, you
49:16
know, we get, we get a launch every six months or whatever.
49:19
Couple months, three, four months.
49:20
We get like some sort of test launch and Yeah, other than
49:26
that, we don't really see much from him.
49:27
You know, they might release a press release or something,
49:29
you're like a neat video but they're not out there.
49:32
Like, they don't have lab Padre. Like, you know, staring at their
49:36
launch site all the time, like, five different cameras.
49:41
Yeah. And something like new Armstrong
49:42
is, it's almost not even, there's no point in even talking
49:45
about it at this point, because it's shows, it's just
49:47
speculation. Yes, they what you're looking at
49:49
here. This drawing is just a, it's
49:51
just a fan drawing. Yeah, nobody knows what this can
49:53
look like. So it's all speculation.
49:57
It's all very, very, very far down the road.
50:01
We've had a year of basically a year of Starship prototypes and
50:07
we're at a point where we've got a silo sitting on a stand that's
50:11
able to launch itself up. Yep.
50:14
Think about that blue origin space, which seems to be at, who
50:18
knows, what's going on behind closed doors, but seems to be
50:20
slower. Who knows how long it's going to
50:22
be before I even knew Glenn gets awful, Launchpad.
50:25
Yeah. Yeah, they're hoping for the end
50:27
of 2021 but I don't see that happening.
50:32
Yeah, it's I don't know. The the Moon missions are going
50:36
to be happening soon, right? So they have to do, they have to
50:39
do a lot of work in the next couple of years, to get the moon
50:43
lander? Ready with the with the?
50:46
Was it the national team? Yeah, so they got to get, they
50:51
get all that stuff, ready? So they have to have Rockets to.
50:53
They have to get that stuff there, SLS isn't going to be
50:56
ready. So they want to, and they also
51:00
want to, they want to get those contracts.
51:02
Like I was saying before with NASA and, you know, defense
51:06
contracts. So get saw a picture of SLS
51:09
yesterday. I didn't send it to you, I
51:10
should have. But yeah, it was the main, the
51:13
main tanks are basically built. How nice?
51:17
Yeah. They just need to put the
51:18
insulation on the outside and and ready to go.
51:21
Make it orange. Yeah.
51:23
Make it orange. If spray paint that thing.
51:27
Yeah, I I think the Orange is going to be.
51:29
I think it's cool, man. I'm not one of those people
51:32
that's like yeah. Orange is old school.
51:34
Looks like the space shuttle. I think it's cool.
51:37
Everything is I heard that it's not actually paint, right?
51:39
It's the foam. They put on the outside of it
51:42
for insulation that reacts to it the air and yeah.
51:45
Turns it orange. Yeah.
51:47
So it's like it's cool. It's cool that it's orange.
51:50
I think we need different stuff, you know.
51:51
Like if every rocket is white with a logo on it, it's going to
51:55
be pretty boring. Or if every rocket, you know,
51:59
when Starship was when they said, you know, we're going to
52:01
do Starship and metal like steel, like, shiny steel.
52:06
I was like, holy cow. That's going to be crazy.
52:09
Looking. Yeah, they're very first
52:11
renderings of the sort of very Sleek sort of sci-fi, looking
52:17
stainless steel Rockets shiny that Elon put out way back when
52:21
we're just amazing. Yeah, like what we're going to
52:23
see? We're going to see the dreams.
52:25
You know, we're gonna see. It never actually turned never
52:28
ever turns out to be exactly those pictures.
52:31
But, you know, we got something pretty cool and she's going to
52:34
get shinier, get it's gonna get more and more shiny and it's
52:38
we're living in a Sci-Fi world right now.
52:40
Like, this is going to be like in the next next, 15 years.
52:44
We're going to be living in this crazy world that we thought
52:48
about when we were kids. You know, we thought about this
52:51
stuff like I wanted to see a alien come off a ship and, you
52:55
know, take me to your leader with little Ray.
52:56
Done. And that's the kind of rockets.
52:58
We're going to get shiny dreams. Kyle Phelps, a member of the
53:03
show would like to know if we have any cool new renders coming
53:06
our way from Neo pork, who we were.
53:11
Well, it's a holiday so we're kind of taking a little break
53:15
and he was taking a little break from all that stuff, but we are
53:18
working on stuff with Neo. So yes, there is a new video
53:22
coming out. There's no planned launch date
53:24
for it, but We'll get it out to you as soon as we can when it's
53:29
completely done. So that told you basically no
53:35
exact information, but yes, we are working on it.
53:37
But no renders yet no renders yet.
53:40
But once once we do get some renders and we get some
53:44
information members of the channel in patreon, patrons will
53:48
get the first look at them. So yeah, if you're not a member
53:52
yet or not a patreon patron, make sure to check that out
53:55
because we do updates for members before everybody else
53:59
will probably give you like a weekly way with these things
54:02
before everybody else. It's going to be sweet.
54:04
I can't wait. That's a, that's a whole other
54:09
whole other topic. We'll get into that before we
54:10
actually get the. I started next video in the next
54:13
video after this one, too. Yeah, kneels before course.
54:17
Yeah. Crazy.
54:18
Crazy crazy. But there's a little bit of work
54:21
to be done. Yeah.
54:22
So the process of that is we want, we want it to look great
54:26
first rather than get it out faster.
54:29
Exactly, exactly. Yeah.
54:31
We don't want to pump these things out and do like a, you
54:33
know, If we done video we want to make it really good.
54:37
So yeah, it's worth the wait I think any more questions?
54:41
Let's take a couple more questions and then I got take
54:44
off T chick actually says, when is the moon landing planned?
54:51
20:24. As far as we know, that's
54:54
probably going to get pushed out.
54:55
But right now is 2024, probably, it'll probably be 20:28.
55:01
We're not even, we're not even sure who it's going to be yet.
55:04
Yep, we don't know, there was a team, you know, there's an
55:07
Artemis team, they're working on NASA's working on Artemis team,
55:11
but We don't have a real release like a real Landing date for
55:17
that yet they say 2024. But it's that's really ambitious
55:22
like, super ambitious. Considering SLS hasn't flown yet
55:28
and isn't isn't even built. Yeah, so we'll see but I think
55:34
we might see some orbits of the the moon before that by various
55:39
various various people. Yeah, I think so too. 20:23
55:44
SpaceX. Dear Moon, and do you think blue
55:49
origin's going to do a moon orbit?
55:53
I think they'd have to attempt it, have to prove that they can
55:56
do it. Yeah.
55:58
So and then I mean, SLS is a it's a big ol rocket but maybe
56:04
eventually will those like, just kind of retire SLS or use it for
56:08
other, you know, for have their heavy lot, heavy lift things,
56:11
but if SpaceX or blue origin or some other company can show that
56:15
they can launch the same compatible Hardware from Earth
56:18
to the Moon. They'll just be like, oh, so
56:20
right. Yours is going to be million.
56:23
Dollars. Yeah.
56:23
Well hire you SpaceX good. You got a four million dollar
56:26
launched from SpaceX versus 200 million launched from someone
56:30
else. We gonna go with.
56:33
Yeah, especially if it's already built in production and they do
56:36
all the testing and everything for you.
56:38
Yeah, you don't have to worry about putting together, SLS,
56:42
okay, yeah. SLS is a huge jobs program and
56:46
that's okay, like, it's okay to keep like highly skilled
56:48
engineers and scientists and everybody else, you know, work.
56:53
But when it comes down to it, like, how, like taxpayers are
56:58
going to be mad if they know that there's another rocket,
57:01
that can do this stuff for, you know, like you said, 300
57:06
million. I think.
57:06
What was it? Three hundred million for an SL?
57:08
That's just something like that. Crazy, crazy.
57:11
Yeah, compared to 4 million for a Starship.
57:14
Yeah. Two million to launch and then
57:16
another two million to fill it space.
57:17
Yep. That's it.
57:19
That's it. Like, it's not much money.
57:23
Dude, let's hope is cheap, right?
57:25
Yeah. It's the rocket that's cost so
57:28
much money. Yeah, that's true.
57:31
So steam O'Neill asks, a another speculative question I like the
57:35
thought experiment questions coming from Steam so they say,
57:39
after Starship has done its thing and we colonized Mars, do
57:42
you think they might make a Starship 2.0 to take us further
57:46
and Beyond? Yes.
57:53
In Starship can supposedly go all around the solar system.
57:59
Pretty much anywhere in the solar system I believe it's the
58:03
beauty of reusability all you do is refill it.
58:06
Yep and it on to tighten right? Kyle.
58:09
Yeah Kyle loves telling Titan. Yeah.
58:14
And The the Starship 2.0, as you say is potentially a wider ship
58:22
to, right? You might have a 60 sorry, an 18
58:25
meter wide, Starship get flown. Yeah.
58:29
And that would be crazy. You guys, decide that doesn't
58:34
make any sense. How was that even?
58:36
How is that even possible? Is that like, okay, thousand
58:40
foot tall rocket? Yeah, physics, like does this
58:44
work with Yeah, but I don't think that works.
58:47
I don't know. Doesn't make any sense.
58:49
He's going to have to lick you a lot together.
58:50
Yeah, yeah. This might be a good topic.
58:59
Another gragas asking another another versus question.
59:02
He says, I think new Armstrong should be created to do.
59:05
What? Starship can't?
59:07
What we mrs. De Starship have?
59:11
None zero. I haven't seen any no weaknesses
59:16
whatsoever. None.
59:18
Now the ladder. That's it.
59:22
Yeah, the latter /? Yeah, ladder / elevator.
59:27
Whatever. They're doing to get down to the
59:29
surface. Yeah, that's about it.
59:32
That's all I've seen so far and legs right now.
59:35
Legs are weakness. Oh wait.
59:36
Yeah, likes these are some really good questions for
59:40
discussion in the Discord if you wouldn't mind. if you wouldn't
59:44
mind, throwing in a Discord link, That I had that.
59:55
No. All caps.
59:58
We can't make exceptions for you but it was funny.
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