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- 0:00You know, if you buy a cup of coffee, right,
- 0:02the price is just, it's just the price. Right,
- 0:04it's fixed. Yeah, it is a single undeniable fact.
- 0:08Look at the board on the wall and it says $4
- 0:10and you hand over $4. And there's this, I don't
- 0:13know, this deep soothing comfort in that kind
- 0:16of absolute certainty. Yes, there is. We crave
- 0:20that. We really do. But, well, if you look at
- 0:23a single bond in the Canadian market at the exact
- 0:27same second in time, It legally has three completely
- 0:32different numbers quoted as its yield. Right.
- 0:34And so today, we're doing a deep dive into our
- 0:37source material to decode why the number you
- 0:39see advertised is, well, it's almost always a
- 0:42trap. It really is an illusion of certainty because,
- 0:45you know, we crave that linear clarity in our
- 0:48financial lives, like your coffee example. But
- 0:51the bond market just simply doesn't offer it.
- 0:53It's the same bond at the same second in time
- 0:56with three entirely different numbers. And every
- 0:59single one of them can legally and technically
- 1:02correctly be labeled as the yield. Which I mean,
- 1:05that feels immediately like a trap for the unwary
- 1:07investor, doesn't it? Oh, absolutely. Like if
- 1:09you hold an income fund or if you have a bond
- 1:12ETF in your portfolio, or even if you're just
- 1:15quietly trying to preserve your wealth for retirement,
- 1:19understanding this math is just Absolutely essential.
- 1:22It's critical. So we need to decode exactly how
- 1:25these numbers are calculated and, more importantly,
- 1:28why they even exist in the first place. Yeah,
- 1:30let's build it from the ground up. Okay, so let's
- 1:33establish the foundation first. Yeah. What is
- 1:35the very first metric we encounter when we look
- 1:38at a bond? Right, so the first one is the coupon
- 1:40rate. The coupon rate, okay. Yeah. And this is
- 1:43the simplest metric. It's also the most rigid.
- 1:46It's just a fixed percentage of the bond's original
- 1:49face value. OK. Which is also known as its par
- 1:52value. Par value, right. And in the Canadian
- 1:55market, what is that usually? In Canada, that
- 1:57par value is typically $1 ,000. $1 ,000. Exactly.
- 2:01So if a bond has, let's say, a 5 % coupon rate,
- 2:05it pays you $50 a year. Because 5 % of $1 ,000
- 2:09is $50. Right. And that is a permanent contractual
- 2:12fact about the bond. It tells you the absolute
- 2:15cash flow. It does not, however, tell you anything
- 2:18about your actual return. Because it completely
- 2:21ignores the reality of the secondary market,
- 2:24right? It's just a percentage of that original
- 2:27$1 ,000 face value, regardless of what I actually
- 2:31paid to acquire the bond today. Yes. Like, I
- 2:33could have bought it on sale for, say, $800.
- 2:36Or I could have wildly overpaid it $1 ,200. And
- 2:40the coupon rate remains... Well, it's just perfectly
- 2:43indifferent to my reality. It doesn't care at
- 2:45all. No. The coupon rate only cares about the
- 2:48contract, not the market. Right. Right. Which
- 2:50brings us to the second number. Right. Right.
- 2:53A metric that is actually designed to address
- 2:55that very blind spot. OK. And that's the current
- 2:57yield. Current yield. So how does that one work?
- 3:00So this calculation takes the annual coupon payment,
- 3:04right, that $50, and it divides it by the current
- 3:06market price of the bond. Ah. So it tells you
- 3:09the cash income you're generating. relative to
- 3:11the capital you actually deployed today. So it
- 3:14accounts for the purchase price? Exactly. Okay,
- 3:16well, that's a step closer to reality, I suppose.
- 3:19It gives me a sense of my immediate return on
- 3:22investment. Right, it does. But there is a third
- 3:25metric. Of course there is. And this is the one
- 3:27that actually completes the picture. Okay, lay
- 3:29it on me. It's called yield to maturity, or you'll
- 3:32often see it as YTM. YTO. Yeah. And this is the
- 3:36total annualized return you will experience if
- 3:39you buy the bond at today's price and hold it
- 3:42all the way to its maturity date. OK, all the
- 3:44way to the end. All the way to the end. It counts
- 3:46every single coupon payment you'll receive. Plus,
- 3:50it accounts for the principal repayment at the
- 3:52very end. OK. So it blends your cash flow with
- 3:55your capital gain or your capital loss over the
- 3:59entire life span of the asset. You know, it feels
- 4:01very much like the mechanics of buying a vehicle.
- 4:04Oh, how so? Well, think about it. The coupon
- 4:08rate is simply the sticker price printed on the
- 4:11window at the dealership. OK, yeah. It's just
- 4:14a stated manufacturer fact. Right. And then the
- 4:17current yield, well, that's your monthly car
- 4:19payment. It tells you your immediate cash flow
- 4:21right now based on the price you actually negotiated.
- 4:23But the yield to maturity, That is the total
- 4:26cost of ownership over the full life of the vehicle.
- 4:29You know, factoring in your insurance, the depreciation,
- 4:32the eventual resale value, just everything. That
- 4:35is actually a remarkably precise analogy. Oh,
- 4:39thanks. Yeah, because the total cost of ownership
- 4:42is really the only metric that tells you the
- 4:44complete truth of the transaction. Right. And
- 4:46yield to maturity is the only number that gives
- 4:49you that total mathematical picture of what you're
- 4:52surrendering today and what you're receiving
- 4:54in the future. But if yield to maturity is the
- 4:57only complete truth, why do we even tolerate
- 4:59the existence of three different metrics for
- 5:01the exact same financial instrument? It's a fair
- 5:03question. It just feels almost intentionally
- 5:05opaque, you know? Like, if I'm an everyday retail
- 5:08investor, looking at three different yields for
- 5:10the same bond is just a recipe for confusion.
- 5:13Yeah, it's entirely fair to feel frustrated by
- 5:16the ambiguity. I get it. but it isn't an intentional
- 5:19deception. No, it's more of a reflection of the
- 5:22fact that different market participants are trying
- 5:24to solve entirely different mathematical problems.
- 5:27Okay, like what? Well, consider a pension fund
- 5:30manager with 30 -year liabilities. Right. They
- 5:33care almost exclusively about yield to maturity.
- 5:36They need the complete, compound mathematical
- 5:39truth to ensure they can actually pay out pensions
- 5:42decades from now. That makes sense. Right. But
- 5:45a retiree living on a fixed income Well, they
- 5:48might be highly focused on current yield. Oh,
- 5:50because they need the cash now. Exactly. Their
- 5:53immediate pressing problem is generating enough
- 5:56cash flow this month to pay for their groceries.
- 5:58Oh, I see. Yeah, so they might accept a mathematically
- 6:01suboptimal total return if it guarantees their
- 6:05current income stream. The metrics simply answer
- 6:08different questions. The market provides different
- 6:10lenses for different needs. OK, I understand
- 6:12the logic. But to truly grasp why relying on
- 6:16the wrong lens is so dangerous, I think we need
- 6:19to move away from abstract theory. We got an
- 6:21idea. Yeah. Let's look at the mechanics in action.
- 6:23I want to walk through the exact arithmetic of
- 6:26a discount bond based on the sources. OK, let's
- 6:29do it slowly, because the math here is where
- 6:31people get tripped up. Right. So consider a five
- 6:34-year bond. It has a 5 % coupon. And it has the
- 6:39standard $1 ,000 face value we talked about.
- 6:41OK, so $50 a year. Right. But let's consider
- 6:44the broader economy. Let's assume the central
- 6:46bank has recently raised interest rates. OK.
- 6:49So brand new bonds being issued today are now
- 6:51paying, say, 7%. Right. And because new bonds
- 6:54are paying 7%, my older bond, which only pays
- 6:575%, is suddenly far less attractive. Exactly.
- 7:00Because, I mean, no rational investor is going
- 7:03to pay me a full $1 ,000 for my 5 % bond when
- 7:06they can just buy a brand new one paying 7%.
- 7:09Precisely. The mechanism of the market forces
- 7:11an adjustment. To make your 5 % bond competitive,
- 7:14the price has to drop. You have to put it on
- 7:17sale. You have to put it on sale. So let's say
- 7:19today, you can buy this specific bond at a discount
- 7:23for exactly $900. Okay, let's run the numbers
- 7:26on that exact scenario step by step. First, the
- 7:29coupon rate. The contract remains unchanged.
- 7:33It is 5 % of the original $1 ,000 face value,
- 7:36so it pays $50 a year. regardless of the fact
- 7:39that the bond is on sale for $900. Correct. Now,
- 7:42let's calculate the current yield. OK. You take
- 7:45that $50 of annual cash flow and you divide it
- 7:48by the $900 you actually paid to acquire the
- 7:50bond. OK. So 50 divided by 900, that gives us
- 7:53a current yield of exactly 5 .56%. Right. And
- 7:58looking at that, 5 .56 % is noticeably better
- 8:02than the original 5 % coupon. It feels like a
- 8:05solid deal. It does feel solid. But there's a
- 8:08massive mechanical blind spot in that calculation.
- 8:11OK, what am I missing? Well, current yield completely
- 8:14ignores what is destined to happen in year five.
- 8:17Year five, the maturity date. Right. You only
- 8:20paid $900 for this bond today. But when it matures,
- 8:24the issuer does not hand you back $900. Ooh.
- 8:28They are legally obligated to return the full
- 8:30$1 ,000 face value. I see the mechanism. I am
- 8:36receiving a guaranteed $100 capital gain at the
- 8:40very end of this timeline. Yes, you are. And
- 8:43that current yield calculation of 5 .56 % is
- 8:46just entirely blind to it. It is entirely blind.
- 8:48It pretends that $100 capital gain simply does
- 8:51not exist. Wow. Yeah. But if we calculate the
- 8:55yield to maturity, we account for those $50 annual
- 8:58coupons plus that $100 capital gain plus the
- 9:02effect of compound interest spread out over the
- 9:04five -year period. OK, what does that come out
- 9:06to? When you run that comprehensive math, the
- 9:09yield to maturity is actually 7 .47%. Let's just
- 9:12pause and reflect on the distance between those
- 9:14numbers for a second. A 5 % coupon, a 5 .56 %
- 9:19current yield, and a 7 .47 % yield to maturity.
- 9:23That is, well, that's a remarkably widespread.
- 9:26It really is. If I only look at the current yield
- 9:29on a discount bond, It drastically understates
- 9:32my actual return. Like I might look at five and
- 9:34a half percent and decide to pass completely
- 9:37on a way that the mathematical reality is closer
- 9:39to seven and a half. Precisely. On a discount
- 9:42bond, current yield quietly obscures your capital
- 9:46gain. The total return is much stronger than
- 9:49the immediate cash flow suggests. Which naturally
- 9:52leads to the inverse scenario, doesn't it? Oh,
- 9:54yes. Because if a discount bond artificially
- 9:57flatters my position by hiding a gain, what happens
- 10:00if I overpay for a bond? Right. Because intuitively
- 10:03that feels like walking into a trap. Let's look
- 10:06at premium bonds. It is a trap and an exceptionally
- 10:09common one. Let's consider a different bond.
- 10:11This one has an extremely generous 8 % coupon.
- 10:14Nice. Right. And it also has five years left
- 10:16to maturity. But let's reverse the economic scenario.
- 10:20Let's assume interest rates in the broader economy
- 10:22have dropped significantly. OK. Down to perhaps
- 10:25three or four percent. So an eight percent coupon
- 10:27is suddenly incredibly attractive. Exactly. Investors
- 10:30are going to swarm this bond because they just
- 10:33can't find that kind of yield anywhere else in
- 10:35the current market. And that massive demand is
- 10:38going to drive the price of the bond up. Exactly.
- 10:40The demand pushes the price far above the original
- 10:44one thousand dollar par value. Right. So it's
- 10:47currently priced at a premium, let's say $1 ,150.
- 10:51OK, let's calculate the current yield on that
- 10:54premium price. So the bond pays $80 a year. I
- 10:58divide that $80 by my purchase price of $1 ,150.
- 11:03And that gives me a current yield of nearly 7%.
- 11:06And to an everyday investor scrolling through
- 11:09a brokerage application, locking in a nearly
- 11:137 % yield in a low interest rate environment,
- 11:16Well, that looks incredibly appealing. It looks
- 11:18like a phenomenal source of stable income. Yeah.
- 11:21But here is the mechanical trap. Current yield
- 11:23is blinding you to the inevitable conclusion.
- 11:26At maturity, in five years, you do not get your
- 11:30$1 ,150 back. Right. The issuer is only obligated
- 11:34to return the $1 ,000 face value. Which means
- 11:37I am going to suffer a guaranteed mathematically
- 11:40certain loss of $150 on my principal. Yes. You
- 11:45have a built -in capital loss from the very seconds
- 11:48you purchase the bond. And the current yield
- 11:51completely ignores it, thereby drastically overstating
- 11:54your true return. Okay. When you factor in that
- 11:57$150 evaporation of your principal, your actual
- 12:01yield to maturity is significantly lower than
- 12:03that appealing 7%. So it's a mirage. It is. This
- 12:07is why premium bonds are the dangerous direction.
- 12:09A high -coupon bond trading at a premium shows
- 12:13a beautiful current yield while quietly masking
- 12:16a built -in capital loss. So wait, that 7 % yield
- 12:19might literally just be the issuer paying me
- 12:21back with my own money? Essentially, yes. Just
- 12:24in small monthly installments while inviting
- 12:26me to politely call it a return? That is the
- 12:28most structurally honest description possible.
- 12:31They are handing you your own capital back, labeling
- 12:35it as yield, and relying on the fact that most
- 12:37investors will not notice their principal quietly
- 12:41eroding. That is genuinely unsettling. Yeah.
- 12:44And I think it moves us perfectly from the mechanics
- 12:47of individual bonds to how this exact math is
- 12:50utilized in retail funds. Yes. Let's talk about
- 12:53funds. Because fund managers understand this
- 12:56math intimately. How do funds use these numbers
- 13:00to market themselves to everyday investors? They
- 13:02use it very effectively. And this brings us to
- 13:04what we call the distribution yield trap. The
- 13:07distribution yield trap. When you look at a bond
- 13:10mutual fund or an exchange traded fund, they
- 13:12will prominently publish something called a distribution
- 13:15yield. And this is simply a measure of the cash
- 13:17they're paying out to unit holders right now.
- 13:20But buried deeper in the fund documents, they
- 13:23will also publish the yield to maturity of the
- 13:25underlying bonds they actually hold. And if those
- 13:27two numbers are significantly different, we have
- 13:29a structural reality that requires our attention.
- 13:32We do. If a fund's distribution yield is much
- 13:36higher than the yield to maturity of the bonds
- 13:38it holds in its portfolio, that extra money has
- 13:41to come from somewhere. Right. They can't just
- 13:43invent money. Exactly. The fund cannot magically
- 13:46generate more interest than its underlying bonds
- 13:49are paying. Yeah. So a significant portion of
- 13:52what you're receiving in that high distribution
- 13:54is likely what is categorized as return of capital,
- 13:58or ROC. Let's unpack the mechanics of return
- 14:01of capital because the phrase itself, I mean,
- 14:04it sounds entirely benign. It does. It just sounds
- 14:07like my original money is coming safely home
- 14:09to me. It sounds benign, but it carries profound
- 14:12tax implications, particularly in the Canadian
- 14:15context. OK, how so? Well, return of capital
- 14:17is not immediate income. It's the fund literally
- 14:20liquidating a portion of your original investment
- 14:23and handing it back to you. Right. And because
- 14:25it's your own money being returned, it is not
- 14:27taxed in the year you receive it. Which, on the
- 14:29surface, feels like a benefit. Tax -free cash
- 14:31flow is always appealing. It feels like a benefit
- 14:34in the moment. Yeah. But the tax system is meticulous,
- 14:36and it never forgets. Oh, boy. Every single dollar
- 14:39of return of capital you receive quietly reduces
- 14:43what is called your adjusted cost base, your
- 14:45ACB. The adjusted cost base. the foundational
- 14:49number the government uses to calculate how much
- 14:51profit I made when I eventually sell the front,
- 14:53right? Exactly. Let's walk through the mechanism.
- 14:55Okay. Imagine you buy a fund at $20 a unit. Over
- 14:59a few years, they pay you out $2 in return of
- 15:02capital. Mm -hmm. You didn't pay tax on that
- 15:05$2 when it arrived, but your adjusted cost base
- 15:08drops from $20 down to $18. So it is essentially
- 15:12like taking a cash advance on your own estate.
- 15:14You feel wealthy today collecting this tax -free
- 15:17yield, but the final bill remains exactly the
- 15:20same. It just comes due later. Yes. Because even
- 15:23if the fund's market price never moved a single
- 15:25cent, like even if it's still trading at exactly
- 15:27$20, if I decide to sell it, the government looks
- 15:30at my lowered cost base of $18 and declares that
- 15:33I made a $2 capital gain per unit. Precisely.
- 15:36The mechanical reality of return of capital is
- 15:39that it defers your tax bill, but it also converts
- 15:42it. By lowering your adjusted cost base, it triggers
- 15:45a larger capital gains tax liability when you
- 15:49eventually sell your position. You are essentially
- 15:51borrowing from your future self to fund a high
- 15:54yield today. So if an investor doesn't understand
- 15:57the distance between distribution yield and yield
- 16:00to maturity, they could be buying a fund in a
- 16:02non -registered account. enjoying these massive
- 16:05monthly distributions and be completely unaware
- 16:08that they are steadily building a deferred capital
- 16:11gains liability. It is a quiet accumulation of
- 16:14future tax debt. And there's a second layer to
- 16:17the tax illusion that we must address. OK, what's
- 16:19that? When you see a yield to maturity quoted
- 16:21on any platform, you have to remember that it
- 16:24is a before tax, before cost number. And under
- 16:27Canadian taxation, interest income from bonds
- 16:29is treated very differently than capital gains
- 16:31or eligible dividends. It is treated far less
- 16:34favorably. Right. Interest income is fully taxable
- 16:37at your highest marginal tax rate. There is no
- 16:40preferred treatment. Yeah. So if you're looking
- 16:42at a bond yielding 5 % in a non -registered account,
- 16:46your actual realized return after the government
- 16:49takes its required share is meaningfully lower.
- 16:52The quoted yield presents an illusion of a gross
- 16:55return. your net mathematical reality is much
- 16:58tighter. So we're really dissecting the actual
- 17:01plumbing of these financial products today. We've
- 17:03covered the big three yields, right? The coupon
- 17:06rate, the current yield, and the yield to maturity.
- 17:09We have navigated the mechanics of discount and
- 17:11premium bonds. And we've outlined how return
- 17:14of capital in retail funds slowly erodes your
- 17:16adjusted cost base. But there is one final caveat
- 17:20from the sources that we need to explore. OK.
- 17:22A scenario where even yield to maturity, which
- 17:25we set as the gold standard metric is not the
- 17:28final word. What happens if the bond contract
- 17:30includes an escape hatch for the borrower? Ah,
- 17:33you're referring to callable bonds. Callable
- 17:36bonds, yes. Many corporate bonds have a specific
- 17:38feature embedded in the legal contract that allows
- 17:41the issuer to redeem or call the bond. back before
- 17:45its official maturity date. They hand you your
- 17:48principal back early, and they completely stop
- 17:50paying you interest. Let's examine the motivation
- 17:52there. Why would a corporation go through the
- 17:55immense expense and effort of issuing a 10 -year
- 17:58bond only to cancel it after four years? Because
- 18:00the broader economic environment changed. Specifically,
- 18:04interest rates fell. If a corporation issues
- 18:06a bond paying 6 % and three years later, Market
- 18:10rates have dropped so significantly that they
- 18:13could borrow brand new money at 4%. They're going
- 18:16to want the cheaper money. Exactly. They will
- 18:18call your 6 % bond, pay off the principal, and
- 18:21refinance their debt at the cheaper 4 % rate.
- 18:24Yeah, that makes sense for them. It's important
- 18:27to remember a foundational rule of finance. If
- 18:29an option exists in a financial contract, it
- 18:32exists for the exclusive benefit of the party
- 18:35who holds the option. In this case, the corporate
- 18:38issuer. Right. They will only exercise that option
- 18:41when it hurts your return and helps their balance
- 18:44sheet. So if I purchase a callable bond, I cannot
- 18:48actually rely on the yield -to -maturity calculation
- 18:51because the bond might never live to see its
- 18:54maturity date. Exactly. This is why the industry
- 18:57utilizes a metric called yield -to -worst or
- 18:59YTW. Yield -to -worst, okay. The calculation
- 19:02requires you to model two futures. You calculate
- 19:05the yield -to -maturity assuming the bond lives
- 19:07its full uninterrupted life. Okay. Then you calculate
- 19:11the yield -to -call assuming the bond is called
- 19:13away from you at the absolute earliest possible
- 19:15date permitted by the contract. Right. Prudent
- 19:18practice dictates that you always, always rely
- 19:21on the lower of those two numbers. Because you
- 19:23have to mathematically assume the worst case
- 19:25scenario. Yes. Because the issuer is acting rationally,
- 19:30strictly in their own financial self -interest.
- 19:32Yield to worst. You essentially assume the market
- 19:34will execute whatever sequence of events is least
- 19:37profitable for you. That's right. That is a very
- 19:40safely cynical but highly necessary way to navigate
- 19:43the bond market. It really is the only mathematical
- 19:45framework that actually protects your capital.
- 19:47Let's step back and just sort of survey the landscape
- 19:50we've mapped today. There's a lot. We have decoded
- 19:53the math behind bond yields. We've established
- 19:56that an investor must never trust the solitary
- 19:58word yield without immediately asking, which
- 20:01yield? We have observed how current yield artificially
- 20:05flatters premium bonds, quietly masking a guaranteed
- 20:08loss of principal. And we've detailed how return
- 20:11of capital distributions gradually lower an investor's
- 20:15adjusted cost space, converting current income
- 20:17into a deferred capital gains tax liability.
- 20:20It is a landscape that demands extreme precision
- 20:23and patience from the investor. You cannot simply
- 20:26glance at a percentage sign on a screen and allocate
- 20:29your capital safely. No, you can't. But as we
- 20:31close this analysis, we want to leave the listener
- 20:33with one final slightly provocative thought to
- 20:36consider from our deep dive. OK. We spent this
- 20:38entire time establishing that yield to maturity
- 20:40is the definitive complete picture. It's the
- 20:42metric the professionals use. Right. But if we
- 20:45look closely at the mechanics, even yield to
- 20:47maturity contains a deeply embedded structural
- 20:50flaw. It does. A deeply embedded mathematical
- 20:54assumption. Yeah. Yield to maturity operates
- 20:58on the strict premise that you will take every
- 21:01single coupon payment you receive over the entire
- 21:04life of the bond, and you will instantly reinvest
- 21:07it at that exact same YTM rate. Let me make sure
- 21:10the mechanics of that assumption are perfectly
- 21:12clear. Okay. If I buy a bond with a 7 % yield
- 21:16to maturity, The underlying math simply assumes
- 21:20that when my $50 coupon arrives in the mail,
- 21:23I can instantly find another investment vehicle
- 21:26offering exactly 7 % and park that $50 there.
- 21:29Yes. That frictionless reinvestment is permanently
- 21:32baked into the calculus. Wow. But consider the
- 21:35reality of the broader economy. What if market
- 21:37conditions shift? What if interest rates plummet
- 21:40the literal day after you purchase your bond?
- 21:43Well, then I can't reinvest my future coupons
- 21:45at 7%. The market might only be offering 3%.
- 21:47Precisely. You'll be forced to reinvest those
- 21:49coupons at significantly lower prevailing rates.
- 21:52This is known as reinvestment risk. And because
- 21:55of that friction, your real realized return when
- 21:59the bond finally matures, will actually fall
- 22:01short of that mathematically perfect yield to
- 22:04maturity you were quoted on day one. So even
- 22:06the gold standard metric is an illusion. In a
- 22:09way, yes. It's based on the assumption of perfectly
- 22:11static market conditions, which raises the ultimate
- 22:15question, right? If the math fundamentally assumes
- 22:18a future that hasn't happened yet, can you ever
- 22:21truly know your exact realized return until the
- 22:24very day the bond matures? You cannot. The certainty
- 22:27we all crave, that clean absolute price tag on
- 22:30the cup of coffee we discussed at the very beginning,
- 22:32it simply does not exist in this space. When
- 22:35you look at a bond yield, you are not looking
- 22:37at a fixed reality. You are buying a highly educated
- 22:40probability quietly masked behind a very precise
- 22:43looking number. The price tag is an illusion.
- 22:46You acquire the asset, you perform the meticulous
- 22:49math, but the actual final reality of your return
- 22:52remains perfectly obscured until the very last
- 22:54day. It's not a fixed number, it's a constantly
- 22:57living equation.