Latest / Two Old Fashioneds Podcast / Bourbons, Ryes, and Whiskey Slippers
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- Brian (00:00.13) Hey, hey, hey, I'm Brian. Scott (00:01.926) And I'm Scott. Brian (00:03.476) Welcome to the two old fashions podcast where two friends get together sip some drinks and tell stories and have a little bit of small talk. What are you drinking tonight Scott? Scott (00:12.946) Well, tonight I got some Sangamore rye and just some regular simple syrup. And then I did half and half. I Angostura bitters and orange bitters. And as always, it's a double. I'm ready to go. Brian (00:28.01) And as always, where are those bitters from? Scott (00:31.389) gosh, I don't know where my bitters from. Brian (00:33.667) Hmm. Scott (00:35.122) They're the ones that they, I got them at the Harris Teeter. Brian (00:39.79) So what I'm hearing is you still haven't gotten a sponsorship package from and bitters Scott (00:45.32) No, well, so we're talking about yes, cocktail company, of course, is what you're referring to. Yes. And I was going to mention that I had to use just the regular simple syrup because I am out of my yes cocktail company syrups. So, yes, we're still waiting. We're three weeks in and yes, cocktail company. We're still waiting for our sponsorship. Now, to be fair, and Brian, I think you mentioned this last week. Brian (00:49.228) Yes, okay, I am. Yes. Brian (01:00.396) I see. tragedy. Brian (01:08.536) there. Scott (01:11.868) We haven't published any of these episodes yet, so there's no way that you could have listened. But yes, but yes, we are calling out to you in the ether. We hope to hear from you soon. Brian (01:24.994) Yes, and hop in that DeLorean, go back in time and bring Scott his cocktail syrup, because I don't know if he's going to make it. Scott (01:29.508) Yes. But if if if there's some bitters that bitters companies that want to sponsor us as well, we will take them. Actually, I want to I want to get Brian to what you're drinking as well, but just question. Like, what are your thoughts on bitters? I mean, do you think bitters really make a difference? Because I've wondered this. Brian (01:37.356) Yes, we can be very, very bitter. Brian (01:49.758) 100%. You can definitely and I mean, here's the thing, you got to put what do they call them like a couple drops, a couple shakes, like, you got to really put them in there. If you just do like one little drop, like probably not. But they I mean, they are aromatic, they really can change the flavor and complexion of a cocktail. Scott (02:06.834) Have you ever done a bitters taste test? And by that I mean like have a few different drinks, but with different bitters and been able to tell the difference between them. Brian (02:16.174) Not at the same time, but I have gotten it's like a great Christmas gift to give and receive some of these packages that have a couple different flavors of bitters. And so, I mean, if you're doing a cherry bitter versus like a chocolate, you could definitely taste that there's traditional orange, there's the aromatic, one of the ones, I forget the name, not a sponsor either. I mean, they it really, I don't want to say blows up your drink, because it does it in a nice complimentary way, but you can definitely tell maybe Scott (02:24.038) Mm-hmm. Scott (02:29.682) Okay. Scott (02:42.812) Yep, it makes the drink blossom. Yeah. Brian (02:45.238) It does. Yeah. But you have to be ready for it. So yeah, I mean, honestly, tonight I did a I did a ride from actually this one's very, very near and dear to my heart. We can talk about this later. This is a wilderness trail single barrel ride. It's a pic from our group from twenty twenty one coming late or maybe even late twenty twenty coming right out of the pandemic. This was actually the first ever CWA pic. This was back in the the stocks era. And we did this whole like Scott (02:58.02) okay. Scott (03:12.649) Mm. Brian (03:13.706) rise street pics to the moon, all that. We can talk about that a little bit more later. I just did this. I actually made some simple syrup the other day. I used my wife's sugar in the raw. So just kind of a more thick sugar. So I made that and then just put a little bit of orange bitters in it. So hey, cheers. Scott (03:17.394) Yeah. Scott (03:31.848) Cheers. And you mentioned CWA. I want to ask you about that a little bit later. But I mean, we're already having a night. This is the second time we've recorded. had to have we had a false start already just just to go a little behind the scenes. OK, let's let's get into it. Yeah. Brian (03:44.392) Yeah, we were a little rusty. Well, I had a day, Scott. I had a day. me tell you, I overdosed today. Scott (03:54.78) Mmm. no. On what? Yeah. Brian (03:56.366) On what you might ask, caffeine. I had too much caffeine. Had woke up, you know, always have my iced coffee. I'm an iced coffee like 360 days out of the year. Like it has to be really cold for me to want warm coffee. So have that, take the kids to the bus. Normal, right? To drive from where we live to Alexandria, it's an hour and 15 traffic for a coffee meeting with a client. So I get there 30 minutes early because with, you all this, you got to Scott (04:00.584) Scott (04:11.112) Okay. Scott (04:21.832) That's brutal. Brian (04:25.87) You got to be ready for things to be even worse. So I get there, pull up to the counter, order my iced coffee. So iced coffee number two of the day, right? Lady comes up, she says, you know what? We got some new people working. Do you mind trying this? It might be a little strong. I'm like, sure. Okay. So I try it and they go, yes, ma'am, this is, this is quite strong. She goes, okay. Well, here's some milk. Like, bye. Great. So I have that. I'm doing some work, getting some calls and the clients come in. So I. I like to always have something in my hand, know, boy, or church, drink in my hand, whether it's an old fashioned coffee, water, I just like to have something in my hand. So I'm like, all right, they're ordering coffee. I should order one, another one. I think somehow the second one was stronger than the first. And like, I drink a decent amount of caffeine. I got back to the office around 1130 and I thought I was gonna need to like curl up in a ball. I mean, my stomach hurt, my head hurt. Scott (04:56.936) There you go. Brian (05:22.734) I get this bowl with rice and stuff. like, gotta absorb it. It's almost like I had too much to drink, but it was just caffeine. So I don't know if you remember the famous Saved by the Bell episode, but I felt like Jesse Spano. I was just like, I'm so excited. I'm so scared. But you know what? We're here and I feel better about myself. Scott (05:32.112) I-I-Ice co- Scott (05:36.806) yeah, you were so excited. Scott (05:43.792) Ice coffee has more caffeine than hot coffee. Is that right? Yeah, I don't know. I'm asking. I don't know. I think it does. Brian (05:48.878) Does it? Okay. I don't know. I was- Yeah, well, I was thinking about this today. Like, I'm sure, yes, if you want to research the milligrams of caffeine, you can. It's like, all right, you go get a beer, right? It's going to tell you what the ABV is. Wine, you've got an idea. Spirits, they clearly say caffeine. don't know. I don't know if Dunkin is different than Starbucks is different than the stuff I have home. I know this particular place. I mean, I should have known better. The place is called Buzz. So maybe maybe I just should have done my research. Scott (06:01.511) Yeah. Scott (06:16.894) but you could have gone across the street to Rustico. Then you then you could have been buzzed. No, I and I'm not a coffee connoisseur, but I think if they're doing the ice coffee right, you you're not taking hot coffee and pouring it over ice. You're like soaking the water in the coffee grinds overnight. Brian (06:21.216) I could have. Yeah, maybe got a little little beard like level the whole thing out. Yeah, so Scott (06:43.644) like in the refrigerator and it's absorbing more caffeine. So yeah, you probably had like the equivalent of six cups of coffee in a what three, four hour period. Brian (06:51.714) It was rough. Yeah. And I mean, to your point, I think there's a difference between cold brew and iced coffee. Who's to say? But I don't either. But I'm happy to be here. I might be up till two. I'm not sure. So. Scott (06:56.924) Yeah, yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about. I could be making that all up. I don't know. Scott (07:04.218) Okay, okay. Well, hopefully the the old fashioned counteracts the caffeine and you're you're evened out for bedtime. Brian (07:10.498) That is the plan. Yeah, I am. So yeah, let's get into it. I think you had some questions. Scott (07:16.688) Okay, well, well, before we get into the topic of the day, which the topic of today was going to be bourbon, I did want to go a little inside baseball because for those of our regular listeners, you know that we both have had trouble saying the name of this podcast. What is the name of our podcast? Brian (07:39.502) thought it was too old-fashioned. Yeah. Scott (07:41.07) I have trouble at least two old fashions. So I was thinking we need to shorthand it, right? We need what's so what would be the shorthand for two old fashions? 20F right? 20F. Brian (07:47.863) Okay. Brian (07:54.126) to LFs, okay. Scott (07:57.906) then I was thinking, do you think we're going to confuse people and they're going to think we are like an OnlyFans podcast? And if people did think we were an OnlyFans podcast, is that a positive or negative? Like, do you think we might actually get some new listeners because of that? Brian (08:14.846) I have no idea. I'm not opposed to trying to find out. Scott (08:18.734) Okay, well I'm curious. So if any of our listeners found us by searching for 2-0-F, please let us know in the comments. Brian (08:26.604) Mm-hmm. Are we gonna go with the number two like that or T-W-O? Okay, yeah. Okay, that works. Yeah. I look good when we get matching tattoos at some point. Scott (08:31.788) I figured the number two. That's what I thought. Two O F. Yeah, yeah. Cool. exactly. Or at least bracelets, right? Like friends. Friendship bracelets. Yeah, I think we need to do that. But you know, Brian, you are the biggest whiskey aficionado fanatic that I know. And for podcasts called too old fashions. Brian (08:42.979) yes. Yeah. Scott (09:01.66) I just wanted to ask you some questions about your whiskey love, obsession, history. I don't know how you want to classify it. Brian (09:04.216) Love it. Brian (09:12.064) I don't know, but I've been called way worse than aficionado, so thank you. Scott (09:14.504) Okay, okay. Well, so I was trying to think right. And we don't need to get into too specific of you know, our drinking history or anything like that. We don't want to go down that road. But what is your first memory of whiskey? Do you have a first memory of what whiskey is? Because I have a distinctive Brian (09:33.002) Okay. Yeah. mean, so my parents weren't big drinkers, but they had things around the house. you know, from a young age, kind of had like a marketing and branding mindset. So I do remember seeing like in my dad's cupboard, Maker's Mark, right? has the red, red dripping wax, which is iconic, trademarked bottle of Jack Daniels, right? That square black label with the print, old number seven, and then Woodford Reserve. And that just, you know, Scott (09:49.062) Okay. Yeah. Brian (10:02.018) beautiful bottle again, just strikes you as classy. like I remember those brands. Now, you know, did I sneak a sip of that Jack De Anel's at some point? Probably. So yeah, that was probably, probably my first. I mean, I'm well past the statute of limitations. Scott (10:13.169) I said we didn't have to go down that rep. Scott (10:18.664) But I was actually thinking about it in a different way. have you ever seen, or when you were a kid, did you ever see Back to the Future, part three? Brian (10:27.392) So this, okay, this this could be a whole nother episode. Movies Brian has not seen that one. I like I'm familiar with it. Like once you said three, I was like, yeah, the old west. Have I ever seen it? No, I have seen one and two, but I have not seen three. Is it worth it? Scott (10:27.58) That's the one where they're in the Western, the Western 1800s. Scott (10:42.779) Yeah. Scott (10:49.576) Three is my favorite, absolutely. And that might be a unique perspective, but I think three is very, very good. But you do have to see two and one before you see three. It'll be that much more worth it. But in three, they're at the old saloon. I think it's maybe in 1812 might be the year. Again, might be just making this up. But they're doing shots of whiskey. And they're like, Brian (10:50.935) Okay. Scott (11:17.116) hair stands up and the smoke comes out of their ears and they like run outside and dunk their heads in troughs because it was such a strong mash or blend or whatever it is and they're going crazy. And that's what I thought whiskey was. I thought that's what whiskey did to you until I was probably like a junior in college when I finally realized, no, it doesn't blow your brains out when you take a sip of it. And so I had a fear. Brian (11:27.885) Mm-hmm. Brian (11:44.386) Yeah, that's fair. Scott (11:45.992) of whiskey until I was probably honestly about 21. If I wasn't mixing with Coke, I wasn't going near it until I got a little older. Brian (11:50.222) I mean, that's a healthy fear. Brian (11:57.196) Yeah. Hey, taking a step back, you want to hear two fun facts since we're just going to talk about whiskey tonight. you know, we were talking earlier about like how, you know, how strong something is and that's called the proof. Well, back, back in those days, they would actually take a little bit of the whiskey and then light it on fire. And if it stayed lit, that was proof that it was strong enough. And then part two, shot, right? Like, you know, let's take shots or what's a shot. Apparently they used to bullets for Scott (12:00.026) Of course. Of course. Scott (12:16.38) Okay. Brian (12:26.54) sips of alcohol. So that's where that came from. I'm 90 % sure both of those are true. Scott (12:33.232) I'm buying it. I'm going to tell those stories next time. Next time I drink with some people. Are you a bourbon or a rye guy? Brian (12:38.018) Yeah. Brian (12:41.954) I am both. It depends on the night, depends on the mood. I will say I'm probably more often in the mood for rye. I know, you know, we're on episode three, my first two old fashions were both with bourbon. 90 % of the time though, I'm reaching for a rye for a cocktail. think they make better cocktails. And I also just, enjoy a little bit of spice and rye tends to have a little bit of that. Scott (12:52.967) Yeah. Scott (13:03.144) It's like a little bite in the back of your throat. Brian (13:05.294) Yeah, I mean for people that aren't as familiar, So bourbon has to be 51 % or more corn. Usually that secondary green is rye and then a little bit of barley. And then rye is going to be 51 % or more rye. and then usually corn and barley go back to the bourbon. Sometimes they add wheat. But anyways, it's kind of the makeup or what they call the mash that determines what that ultimate spirit is called. Scott (13:31.418) Okay, if you had your eyes closed, could you take a sip of something and tell if it was bourbon or if it was rye? Brian (13:41.016) Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Again, this kind of goes into like the way. Scott (13:43.718) But like, what's your confidence level? what, like how much, how much money would you put on your ability to do this? You said you're not a betting guy. Yeah. 10 bucks. Brian (13:50.57) I think as we talked about, I'm not a big betting guy. So I mean, 10 bucks or maybe just, you know, the next round of drinks like that would be fun. But and again, it's different, Scott, because like some rise or what's called 95 5. So 95 percent rye, 5 percent barley, Kentucky style rise are 51 percent rise. They they call them barely legal. So, you know, a barely legal Kentucky style rye is going to taste and smell. Scott (13:58.906) Okay. Scott (14:13.018) Okay. Brian (14:19.022) a lot like maybe a bourbon that's 60 % corn and 35 % rye and 5 % barley. like, if it was a 95.5 rye versus a, you know, Kentucky style bourbon, I'm pretty confident I can get that just on the nose or the smell, but different recipes, you know, it's always a fun game to play. I lose most of the time. Scott (14:42.12) Okay, I think that might be a fun little game we play on one of these podcasts. I don't know how we make it happen, but I think that'd be kind of fun. Brian (14:49.366) I mean, I think I could put some special things in your mailbox and we can make it happen. Scott (14:54.728) talking now we're talking. So I can I mean everyone can see behind you you have a number of bottles on display you're calling in you're speaking from your library in your basement right now. Brian (15:10.082) Yes, there are also books. People have been like, how can you go to library? There's no books. I got like seven or eight books. They're all about bourbon, but they have pages. Words, some of them have words too. Most of them have pictures. Scott (15:16.614) I've seen them. You do have books. can vouch for that. And I've been Scott (15:23.964) I've been in your library before. You have a number of different cabinets and closets and you open one up and there's just bottles and bottles and bottles and like, do you have like, do you know how many bottles you have in your basement right now in your in the room you're sitting in right now? How many bottles are we talking? Brian (15:47.918) That's a good question at one point I had a Google Doc and then I felt like that was potentially Just too much. It was too much to keep up with and you know I'm glad you didn't accuse me of having a drinking problem because I think I have a purchasing problem I Have a shopping problem. I know know But yeah a little bit of collecting I mean and it's funny too like when we were in our Townhouse before we moved here. It just it starts small right like Scott (16:00.312) No, no, no, no, not at all. No, I didn't say that at all. Yeah, I get it. Brian (16:16.344) there was a China cabinet and I like, took one shelf over and I had three bottles and then I took another shelf and then I six bottles and then it just kind of multiplied. And then it's kind of one of those things like the more space you have, the more you expand. then we moved to this house and there's like a little butler's pantry and I took that over and that started to overflow and here we are. I mean, if we just wanted to ballpark it, I would say 250 to 300. Scott (16:32.999) Yeah. Scott (16:43.528) I honestly thought you were going to say a much higher number than that. I'm a little disappointed. Brian (16:47.08) No. and here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. Like, I know many people that have more bottles than I do. Yeah. Scott (16:53.512) 100 % yeah, I can think of at least two right now that we both know. Brian (16:58.378) Yeah. And I feel like I've gained discipline. We were texting earlier and I was like, I'm walking to the ADC store. They had like four bottles that I would enjoy having. I didn't buy any of them. Like you do get to a point where enough is enough. So it has to be like really special for me to do now. And then we're in this pick group. So we get some really cool single barrels on occasion. So I've been trying to tamper it down. The industry overall is suffering a little bit because people Scott (17:03.825) Okay. Scott (17:11.578) Okay, yeah. Brian (17:27.092) really stocked up during the pandemic, weren't going out to eat, this was their form of entertainment. Now we've all got a lot. with bourbon in particular and rye being an age spirit, it's very tough on these brands to forecast. So they're thinking, all right, how much am I going to need in four, six, eight, 10 years? So it's actually going to be great for us that are big whiskey fans, as long as most of the brands survive, because they're going to have better aged products at Scott (17:29.777) Yeah. Brian (17:56.502) less expensive prices I would say over the next couple years, which I'm excited about. Scott (17:58.546) That makes sense. So I've noticed in the few podcasts that we've done so far, you try to stay on theme, right? Last week we were talking music. You picked a music, bourbon, a bourbon named after music, but let's just say it's a, it's a random Thursday night. You come downstairs to the library. How would you decide what you're going to drink? Do you have a system? Do you have a process? Brian (18:11.863) Mm-hmm. Brian (18:26.542) I don't. Sometimes I'll have like, I'll go through phases. So, I hate to finish a bottle, right? Because if it's something I really love, I want to keep it. But then every once in I'm like, well, I need to cycle in some new ones. So maybe I'll have like a finish the bottle phase where it's like, I'll take the ones that are really low and just be like, all right, let's get rid of this Russell's. Let's finish off this Eagle rare, things like that. Or I might just come down and be like, I want something spicy. So I'm going to go for. Scott (18:35.164) Yeah. Brian (18:55.086) a rye or you know what I just want something a little bit sweeter so maybe I'm gonna hit maker's mark because it's that's a weeded bourbon so it just kind of depends on my mood how I'm feeling how my day was or sometimes I'll just be like yeah just point for a while would have my wife just grab a bottle pour me a little and then I wouldn't know what it was and that was just kind of a way for me to just try to figure out like all right do I really like this to your point earlier let's play a game is this a rye is this a bourbon is this Scott (19:01.362) Yeah. Scott (19:20.216) Would you do 20 questions? Would you try to figure out what it was? Brian (19:23.758) I had this little notebook and I would write all these things and then, like I said, I was wrong 99 out of 100 times, so then I just kind of stopped. But it is fun to take away kind of everything you think you know. You you hinted at this in one of our earlier episodes, but we had that great time where I came over to your place with some of our friends. Oh, I'm gonna hold on that. Scott (19:30.781) Yeah. Scott (19:46.054) Well, yeah, hold on that because I want to I want to close with that story because that is I like that one. I did want to ask you, do you have whiskey slippers? Brian (19:47.713) OK. Brian (19:58.54) Like smoking slippers? Scott (20:01.253) Yes, but when you're drinking whiskey, do you wear any like special footwear or anything along those lines? Brian (20:08.91) That's an odd question. feel like you're really leaning into this, this OnlyFans idea, but no, I do not have special things for my feet while I drink whiskey. Scott (20:10.152) Hahaha Scott (20:16.328) Do you have any like special clothing? Like again, random Friday, you're just going downstairs to relax by yourself. You don't have like. No, OK, I knew somebody. Brian (20:27.65) I don't, I mean, you you say that and I do have a pair of Maker's Mark socks and a pair of Elijah Craig socks, because you go to enough events and you get some things. So, but no, I'm not putting those on particularly, but it sounds like you have a friend that has some footwear. Scott (20:41.884) Well, I had a friend, I had a friend who said he had whiskey slippers. And he told me about this. It was probably like 12 years ago by now. And still to this day, I think about it how like I don't have whiskey slippers. And you know, I run hot generally. So yeah, I don't like to have socks on my feet as much as I can to cool my body down. Is that TMI? yeah. Brian (21:07.214) Absolutely. Scott (21:11.388) But the idea of having like special slippers when I'm drinking whiskey, I love that idea. So I've tried a few different slippers to be my whiskey slippers, that's just something that stuck. So I wanted to see if I was the, the weird one, or maybe, maybe this guy was the weird one. I don't know. Brian (21:27.63) I don't know, I mean, I remember last episode you told me your 40th birthday is coming up for the third time, so I think I know what I'm gonna try to get you now. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. 100%. Scott (21:35.388) Get me some whiskey slippers. Absolutely. We've heard of whiskey glasses. You need some whiskey slippers. Yeah. but yeah, so we did this taste test. this was like three or four years ago and it was Labor Day weekend. And again, Brian and I had just kind of become friends. I had invited some friends over to our house to do this big bottle share taste test. And I think everybody was asked to bring two bottles, maybe three bottles. I don't remember exactly what it was. Brian (22:06.868) Yeah, think two sounds, two sounds right. think some people brought three, but yeah, was MIM-2. Scott (22:12.616) We asked people to bring a maybe less than $20 bottle or maybe less than $30. I don't remember, but a cheaper bottle and then a more expensive bottle. So bring two ends of the spectrum. And my wife who doesn't really care for Brown Liquor, she was the hostess and we did a March Madness tournament to determine collectively what was our favorite bourbon. That way we know when we go to the liquor store, when we go to Brian's library, we know what bourbon to pick off the wall, because it's going to be our collective favorite. Brian (22:45.166) Which I will say, so I don't want to cut you off, but I am like, love the idea. I, here's the thing I've come up with. I don't care if I found what I thought would be the perfect perfect. I don't care if I tried all these 250 bottles and was like, this one is the best. I would still keep trying new stuff. So I hear you, but like, so I mean, that's, that's the flaw in the hobby or the fun of it, right? Like there's, there's always something in it. Well, this could be better, but I love, I love what you set up. So keep going. Scott (22:47.591) Yes. Scott (23:03.528) 100%. Scott (23:14.056) I love the taste test activity. We've done it. I mean, just this past Superbowl last month, we did a soda taste test where we had like Coke, Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, Pepsi Zero. We had them all to try to figure out what is the best soda that's out there. By the way, Coke Zero, I believe is the one that won. So we've done this for a number of different things. Light beer is also a fun taste test because they all taste. Brian (23:17.87) Mm-hmm. Scott (23:42.28) So similar, but yet so different when you taste them back to back. But yes, I think we had at least 16 bottles and it was single elimination to determine what was the best bourbon. And I'm going to throw this picture up on the screen for everyone to see of all the bottles that we had during this taste test. And again, Brian and I, had just relatively become friends relatively recently become friends. I didn't realize that in his basement, he had 250 or 300 bottles. Brian (23:45.058) Mm-hmm. Brian (24:09.431) Yeah Scott (24:11.14) of bourbon. thought he was just my neighbor who was coming over to drink bourbon. I think he brought some Brian (24:14.894) I mean, and to be fair, probably had, I didn't have that many, they've accumulated since we become friends, not because we became friends, didn't drive me to drink more, but has multiplied. Scott (24:23.069) Yes. Scott (24:27.208) But I think you brought a couple of nice bottles over as well, if I remember correctly. Do you remember what collectively we decided was the top bourbon? Brian (24:41.07) have an idea. I have an idea. Scott (24:44.026) I mean, we had all of the standards. Right? Any— Brian (24:46.402) Yes, was definitely in the quote unquote cheap category. I think it might have been, was it Jim Beam White Label? Scott (24:53.851) It was. Scott (24:57.594) It was Jim Beam White Label. It was Jim Beam White Label, which was extremely embarrassing in the moment. I don't know why. I mean, Jim Beam, that's fine. I think there's a reason why it's so mass market, probably because it is a favorite to many. It's affordable. It does the trick. But that was not what I was, that was not what we were expecting to be. Brian (24:59.351) Yep. Brian (25:06.328) Yeah. Brian (25:17.26) Yeah, it's a quality product. Scott (25:22.696) the I thought it would be Woodford Reserve or Basil Hayden's or something along those lines, which were all part of the contest. But just like a number of these different taste tests, so I mentioned the Coke or the sorry, the soda, the cola taste test that we did, we did a light beer taste test. I've done some wine taste tests as well. You know, the idea, like I said, is we now know what our favorite is. This is what we're going to order from now on. Well, I will never go to a restaurant and order Jim Beam. No offense, Jim Beam. No offense to you. Brian (25:50.062) Right? No, they're great. They're the winner. Scott (25:53.0) But I'm never going to order that. And then I think it was a few days after that where I figured out, my gosh, Brian is the president of a whiskey association. He actually knows what he's talking about. He must have been laughing on the inside the entire time. Brian (26:03.275) Yeah. Brian (26:10.414) No, I actually, loved it, right? Because it's classic, it's available. And yeah, I mean, you get into this hobby, you become an enthusiast, you chase all these things. And then there's just so much goodness out there. So like, I love it when that kind of thing happens. Like you don't have to spend 200, even $150 on a bottle. Like yes, you can get a cool experience and try something that's highly aged or a different proof or finished in something or comes from... the sellers under somebody's grandpappy's basement. Like, cool. Like, that's fun. But like, it actually, think it's great for the hobby that like this kind of stuff exists, that it's just a traditional bourbon mash bill. Like you said, it's, the workhorse of Jim Beam, a well established company. And like, it's good, right? Like that's, that's great. That's good for everybody. It can get more people interested. So cheers to them. Scott (26:42.173) Yeah. Scott (26:55.026) Yeah. Scott (26:59.997) Yeah. Scott (27:03.782) Yeah, cheers to them. Cheers to them. Maybe, you know, next week, let's make Jim Beam old-fashioned. Brian (27:11.64) would have to get a bottle. no, you know what, I've got some. I definitely have something in that Beam family for sure, for sure. Scott (27:14.288) I think you got one. Scott (27:21.512) Well, that's awesome. Any other closing thoughts for the bourbon discussion? Brian (27:28.75) You know, we're in an age, right, where we see less people drinking and I think that's good for people's health. But I do, I personally have enjoyed the hobby. I find it fun to sip some drinks, have good conversations like we are. Like that's the idea behind this. I think it can be a great social lubricant. I know it gets used in business. So I just want to end with a cheers to America's native spirit, Scott. Scott (27:46.396) Yeah. Scott (27:54.477) I love it. Cheers and we'll see. We'll see you next week. Brian (27:56.686) Have a great week and we'll see you out there. All right.