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225: Sister Wives Recap - Robyn's Dumb Business Idea Fails at Expo (S6 E1) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: We're going to the first My Sister Wives Closet expo
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into the recap of this episode, we
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  Speaker 1: do have some hot goss. We do somebody out there
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  Speaker 1: in Flagstaff lacks her haunted doll. Cut it girl.
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  Speaker 2: This shit came out on Reddit like not too long ago,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it resurfaced like a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: were talking about it. Apparently Robin Brown forgot to make
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  Speaker 2: her Etsy Favorite list private and her purchase is private,
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  Speaker 2: so it was public and people went and found it
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  Speaker 2: and did a deep dive of everything she's on Etsy,
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  Speaker 2: and somebody on Reddit totaled it like thirty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: worth of like American girl dolls and the clothes for
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  Speaker 2: the American girl dolls, and like accessories for these American
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  Speaker 2: girl dolls, and she leaves reviews on all of these
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  Speaker 2: things that she's purchased, like, oh my god, this is
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  Speaker 2: such a beautiful doll, Like the hem workmanship is so amazing,
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. The clothing is so beautiful. It goes
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  Speaker 2: really well with my jolly and myty thousand dollars, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: doll clothes. But then without a crystal ball, don't fucking
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  Speaker 2: come for me. Okay, without a crystal ball. Did a
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  Speaker 2: couple videos on this, y'all can go watch it if
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  Speaker 2: you want, but she said it was actually upwards of
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  Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Now on the dolls or the dolls, on the clothes,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my.
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  Speaker 2: God, on Etsy, all on Etsy. And so now Robin's
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  Speaker 2: Etsy is private because everybody found it and started exposing her.
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  Speaker 1: But bendable income. Do you have to purchase sixty thousand
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  Speaker 1: in doll clothes and.
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  Speaker 2: Doll it's all Janelle's income.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Janail's income, and it's Mary's incomm Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: wondering if this is like a sound financial investment. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like what the right of return is if
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  Speaker 1: you sell a doll after a few years, is it
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  Speaker 1: game in value?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she's selling it.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what's in the base?
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  Speaker 2: I think so all of its packs ups.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why she doesn't want us in her house. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because she's displaying all these haunted, freaked out dolls exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like playing with them, like she's dressing them
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  Speaker 2: for certain time periods and stuff, like she's buying like
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  Speaker 2: Renaissance clothing, yes, and like medieval stuff, and she's buying
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  Speaker 2: certain costumes for the time of year for these particular dolls.
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  Speaker 2: And then people also found the junk journal that she bought.
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  Speaker 2: Mary she found it.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody found I mean when Mary was moving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so somebody found a couple other purchases. So she's
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  Speaker 2: purchased multiple junk journals and those are upwards of one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars a pop for one journal.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh for that ugly fucking journal.
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  Speaker 1: They are rolling in dough, other people's dough. So these
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  Speaker 1: aren't dolls that are on display. These are dolls that
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  Speaker 1: you think she's in some craft room somewhere playing with
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  Speaker 1: like two yeah Gi Joe toys. If you're a toddler boy,
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  Speaker 1: little girl.
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  Speaker 2: Well, American girl dolls like back in the day used
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of cool for little kids. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 2: I wanted an American girl doll when I was nine
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  Speaker 2: years old because I thought they were still cool. Yeah. Pretty,
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  Speaker 2: But as like a forty six year old woman, like,
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  Speaker 2: why are you collecting American girl.
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  Speaker 1: Because she has more money than she knows what to
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  Speaker 1: do with. I guess I can't even imagine being a
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  Speaker 1: part of a polygamist family where one of the wives
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: is literally in an RV that she had to fund herself.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: But if she's not in the RV, then she's in
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  Speaker 1: a rented dormitory apartment or in a rented home. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm out here with my big mansion and all of
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  Speaker 1: my fucking things, yeah, plus a bunch of haunted dolls. Now,
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  Speaker 1: is it just American girl dolls or are they like
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  Speaker 1: the creepy porcelain dolls from like the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're mainly American Girl dolls, but there are
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  Speaker 2: some collectible ones for American Girl, like there are some
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  Speaker 2: that are like porcelain and shit like that. So the
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  Speaker 2: American Girl dolls are just the most expensive ones that
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  Speaker 2: she's been purchasing. I don't know if people liked a
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: did a deep dive and saw other antique ones that
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: she was buying or what. But she was like buying
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  Speaker 2: also custom made clothing and custom made dolls. Like, she
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  Speaker 2: was ordering stuff. So it wasn't even just once she
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  Speaker 2: was purchasing that were like available in catalog. She was
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  Speaker 2: a specialty ordering, like I want a doll with brown
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  Speaker 2: hair and green eyes, and I want that she bones
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  Speaker 2: to be right here and I want to Like that's
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  Speaker 2: what she was doing.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, Beatrice, this is a woman who does not work. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she does not work. Her only job is TLC. Cody's
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  Speaker 1: only job is TLC. Now how far back do these
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  Speaker 1: purchases go, Like are these recent purchases or are these
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  Speaker 1: like purchases that she's making ten years ago?
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember what the Reddit posts said, because it's
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  Speaker 2: been deleted, I think without a crystal ball says how
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  Speaker 2: long it's been, But it's been over a few years,
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  Speaker 2: and some of them were recent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, isn't that embarrassing? Yeah, it's embarrassing because she has
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  Speaker 1: terrible taste and absolutely everything, not just home decor, but
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  Speaker 1: also obviously dolls and her clothing. Yeah, and her hair
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  Speaker 1: and her makeup and her eyelashes. All of this is
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  Speaker 1: very bad. Yes, But I'm just like, the audacity to
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  Speaker 1: have all of this surplus money while you have children
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  Speaker 1: and other moms who are in need of funding. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not paying child support for Savannah. Of course, Savannah
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  Speaker 1: has turned eighteen nineteen already, but you weren't paying child support.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't paying child support for truly, Christine had to
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  Speaker 1: take your ass to court to resolve that. But you're
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  Speaker 1: out here buying all these dolls.
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Wild, I know.
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  Speaker 2: And it would support the theory that Robin's been a
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  Speaker 2: chopaholic like this entire time, Like she came into this
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  Speaker 2: family with debt from Victoria's secret or whatever she was purchasing,
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  Speaker 2: So she's got a fucking problem, Like why are you
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  Speaker 2: spending all of this money on a bunch of bullshit
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  Speaker 2: that's just collecting dust in your basement.
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  Speaker 1: Has anybody else, like in the family confirmed that she
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  Speaker 1: has the doll problem, not that I know. Has anybody
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  Speaker 1: seen the dolls?
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  Speaker 2: I think there might be footage of the older seasons.
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  Speaker 2: We need to keep an eye out with our monocles
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  Speaker 2: to see if we can find some of these dolls
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  Speaker 2: in the rewinds, because yeah, apparently it's been a it's
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  Speaker 2: been a long thing that she's been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, well, thank you for that, TB. That's certainly enraging.
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  Speaker 1: I know, very very upset about this. Yeah. Oh, justice
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  Speaker 1: for the og wives for real. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into this rewind episode again. We're season six, episode one entitled.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: Picking up the Pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Picking Up the Pieces? Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's like because season five, we're still
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  Speaker 2: in Vegas, like they just moved from Utah. Everybody's unsettled,
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  Speaker 2: Like everybody's in their weird rental homes, nobody see each other.
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  Speaker 2: The family's failing, Like I think that's what it is like,
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  Speaker 2: trying to pick up the pieces of their life. Okay,
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: and in shamble.
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  Speaker 1: And like create some sort of a cohesive family structure.
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  Speaker 1: We did see like a lot of the flashbacks to
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  Speaker 1: their fleeing Utah in the middle of the night because
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  Speaker 1: they were in danger or whatever whatever. We also saw
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: a flashback of Christine on the couch saying like I
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: need help with all these kids, Like I spent my
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  Speaker 1: entire life raising all of your children, and I need help.
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  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, nobody wants to come
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  Speaker 1: over to my house. Nobody wants to walk the one
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  Speaker 1: mile down to my house and help me out. And
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  Speaker 1: this is in the flashback where she says, like we
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: are failing as a family. I mean, she called it,
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  Speaker 1: she did, and she wasn't lying yet. So here we
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  Speaker 1: are on the verge of moving into the homes, like
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  Speaker 1: they're being constructed at this time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I find it so interesting that even at this time,
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  Speaker 1: two months before they're supposed to move in, they're still
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: only pre qualified for loans. I know, like they're still
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: at risk for not all four of them being able
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: to move into these homes because maybe one of these
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  Speaker 1: wives doesn't have what it takes Robin Robin, Robin bitch
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  Speaker 1: ass to actually fully qualify.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is very interesting. I don't know what the
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: whole finances are in this thing, like how they were
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: able to pull this off with four properties and how
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: they don't really like own them yet. But then they're
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: going to the framing walk through and then they're dictating
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  Speaker 2: like what window goes here and can I change that?
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  Speaker 2: And oh, this is a mistake. Like it's very bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: Because they've already put down deposits probably so they've already
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  Speaker 1: put some earnest money or some money toward the building
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  Speaker 1: of these homes. But if they were to default on
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: the loans, we'll not default on the loans. If they
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: were not able to fund the loans because they didn't
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: fully qualify, then they would lose that earnest money, lose
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: those deposits. So they stand. Remember they had to write
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: the checks and right the end of season five, and
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: it was like five thousand per wife, right, so that
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  Speaker 1: was the down payment that they were making to the builder.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: I think in order for them to start building these homes.
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  Speaker 2: Even then that's like not a lot from these four homes,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: not at all, that's crazy.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: But it's still very precarious for them because what are
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: they going to do if only Christine and Mary can
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: fund their homes. But Janelle and Robin Kent, are you
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: going to give into these homes? Exactly where's everybody else
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: going to go?
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, luckily they were able to do it, but
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how that happens. And like when
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: we get to the final conversation where they signed the
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: paperwork and they move into the houses, I'm excited to
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: see them kind of go into it because right now
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: it's still really crazy to me because they start with
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: the framing walk through in this episode and they're going
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: to each one's house, and they start with Robin's house.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: Of course, she's Firse, and I thought it was interesting
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: how she goes into the master bedroom and she's like, oh,
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: I thought that though I was supposed to be this,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: why not this way? And can we change that? And
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: the builder's like, yeah, it would cost extra money and
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: she's like, oh okay, cool, Like that's great, And then
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: we go over to Mary's house. Same thing. She has
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: to patch up a hole in a wall or something.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: There was a doorway where she didn't want a doorway,
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: so that's going to cost money too. We get to
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Janelle's house, there's no problems, and then we get to
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Christine's and she has an issue with one of her
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: entryway rooms, and Cody's like, no, no, no, let's just deal
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: with it. Let's just make it into a library.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a formal dining room. And he's like, well,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: maybe we don't need a formal dining room. Maybe you
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: and your trashy ass kids can just eat right there
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen and we can make this a library, which,
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: of course Ristina so dumb, and she says, oh my god,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: I love books and I love to read, so yes,
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  Speaker 1: so she agrees to that, So no changes will be made.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't want to spend the money on
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  Speaker 2: Christine's house, but let's spend the money on Robin's new
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  Speaker 2: window and Mary's wall that she needs fixed.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Right with Robin's window, it sounded like Robin had requested
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: the change from a bigger window. She wanted a double hung,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: but the double hung was going to be more narrow,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: but that is what she wanted, and so anything Robin
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  Speaker 1: wants she gets. But it's a smaller window. And so
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: now that she's seeing it, she's like, oh, okay, well
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be a bigger window though, so let's
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: change it. So she's making stupid decisions. You can tell
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: this is a woman who doesn't have a lot of
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: life or work experience. She does not know how money works,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: like it's a little frustrating. But then contrasts that with Janelle,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: She's like, it's fine, Like whatever, I don't even need
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: a dinasm. I don't even need to live in. I
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: just want to just can I someplace to lay my
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: hat and take care of my kids. She's so easy,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: she is very easy.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Robin is so high maintenance, even in like how she's dressing.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: If you've noticed, she's got all of these rings on,
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: She's got all these jewel like bracelets and a necklace,
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: and she's got these French tip nails. I'm like, how
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: are you paying for all that? Mm hmm without your
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: TLC paycheck? Is that what your budget goes to? Okay,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: got it?
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Unless she's marketing her own inventory, maybe my sister wife's stuff.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's ugly.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, yes, very ugly.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get into my sister wife stuff, because after
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: the framing walkthroughs, then we get into a family my
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: sister wife's closet meeting.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I love these Mormon meetings where one wife is inevitably
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: disappointed and angry because the other members of the family
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: don't agree with her scheme. And this time it's Robin.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: It's so good and it's so obvious, like she's even saying,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: like framing it, like the gifts that I made for
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: all of the wives last year was a message to
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: them that we should get this business going with my
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Sister R's closet, because I think it's going to be
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: very successful, and I think it's going to be a
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: way for the family to come together, and I think
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: it's going to be very lucrative. But it's like the
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: worst idea ever.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: And it's not lucrative. So apparently at the time of
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: this Mormon meeting, it has been approximately six months since
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: they launched My Sister Wive's Closet online only online. For
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: some reason, unfortunately, they're not getting a whole lot of orders,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and of course we know retrospectively it's because a it
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: looks like ball sas and is ugly, or titties yea
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: hang down drupid titties, and or b it's very expensive.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: They're charging way more than it's worse, and so people
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: are going to visit the website, but nobody's purchasing. Yeah,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: and so what they're going to do the next days
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: they're going to leave for an expo in Saint George, Utah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: where Robin is of the mind that if people could
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: just touch this necklace up, if you could just see
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and be present with these rings, you will really get it.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And then I'll be able to tell you my story
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: like this. This is from the time where I gave
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: a necklace to Mary her and I felt a lightning
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  Speaker 1: bolt in my Poonnadie, and God was present, and people
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: are gonna buy all of this stuff. So she really
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: believes the expo is what their business is going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: turn upon. Now you look across that table and you
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: see Janelle. Janelle is my girl, and she's just like,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I gotta feed my kids though literally, like they need
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: to eat.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: We need bread and butter.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And so if this doesn't work, if we're not selling
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: at least one hundred big ticket units in Saint George
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: at this expo, I'm gonna have to focus on my
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: realtor business, honey, uh huh. And then you have Christine.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: This was so good, and she's just like I'm not
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: willing to give you any more than I have already
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: given you, Like I don't know how you're operating under
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the assumption that I give a shit, Robin. I don't
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: give shit. I don't believe in what you're designing, and
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything else to further this
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: hobby business.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: So fucking good. Christine even says in her talking head,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: She's like, I am invested when I come to this meeting,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm not groaning and rolling my eyes and leaving early.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: That's how I'm supporting you.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Literally, my support Your reward.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Is me not calling you out right now for this
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: really stupid business idea.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: My god. And then Cody surprised me out of all
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: of them because he was like, I don't even want
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: to fucking do this, Like this is a dumb idea,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Like you didn't say that, but he's just like this
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: is not interesting to me. I don't want to work
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: with y'all, Like I don't want to do this. This
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: is a hobby.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: This is not even a hobby because I don't like
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and enjoy what I am doing. This is a bummer,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: this is a burden. Yeah, And it was interesting because
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: in the last couple two three seasons. Hasn't he blamed
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the other wives, Yeah, for tanking my sister wives closet. Yeah,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And I know he said in this season he's like,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I wish I would have been more supportive. I feel
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: really guilty and I have regrets about not being as
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: supportive as as I could have been when you look
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: back on the footage, like he's the most negative out
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of them all. They're all negative except for Mary, uh huh.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: But Cody is like the most negative person about this
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: business idea, because Cody wants to see a return on
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: his investment. And Janelle even says at the table something like,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: we put a lot more money into this business than
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: just a hobby business. Like it sounds like they paid
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of money for their website, whatever they're paying
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: to have these designs come into fruition. Sounds like it's
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: costing them a lot for that inventory. And so they've
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: already spent a lot. And you know, she wanted to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: spend that money on her fundamental fitness Mormon Jim. Everybody
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: shot her down, yep. And now here they are spending
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: all this money on Robin, on.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: A dumb online jewelry business ugly jewelry, like it is
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: so ugly, like I can't even believe it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: And their branding is so dumb.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: It is so fucking bad.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You see when they go to Saint George and everybody's
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: having this visceral reaction to the name of their sister
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: wife closet, which is obviously a tip of the hat
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to them being polygamous.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And you're going to Saint George, yes, where Warren Jeff's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: had all of his child brides and everything. These are
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: a traumatized people. They don't want your polygamis horseshit in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Saint George.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking the entire time watching this.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why would you even go to this expo
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: in a town where you had to get approval just
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to go into the expo? Because they were like, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: don't know if this is gonna be good. Somebody at
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: TLC was like, please just have them at your expo,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: like we'll pay you money. And they go to this expo,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: nobody's interested in it. You have interviews with people from
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the town that are like, polygamy is fucking disgusting.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I offer them. I hate them. I think they're openly hostile.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of them are openly hostile.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Why would you ever go here, go to Phoenix.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You're not that far away from Tucson where they've got
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: those big gem shows and stuff. Take your TACKI over there.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I just don't get it. And like even Janelle and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Mary like, sorry, not Janelle and Mary. Janelle and Christine
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: in the meeting and at the expo, they're trying to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: be supportive to Robin in the sense of like we'll
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: be there, like we'll go there, we'll try and help
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you sell it. But then after the expo being a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: total failure, Janelle and Christine are like, yeah, I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's because of our sales pitch. It's too long. Like
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: nobody cares about the fucking story. I think that the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: whole sister Wife name is a turn off for everybody.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Like maybe we should rebrand and maybe we should do
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: something different. But Robin is not hearing any of that
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: because she doesn't give a shit. This is her dream,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: this is her business. But she's saying it's not her business.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It's everyone's business that she's forcing people to go to.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: It's not even that she says at the end of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: this episode, if we want to succeed as a family
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and be unified. We need a business. Yeah, this business
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is going to keep us together something to that effect. Okay,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: so you're hinging the success us or the failure of
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this family on your stupid jewelry design business. What a narc.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: It's seriously what a narc, honestly, and then when it fails,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you're going to blame the wives, which Janelle and Christine
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: are literally selling this shit at the expo. Like Christine
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is loud, she's like introducing herself to people. She's active
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and involved in this whole thing, and you want to
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: blame them for the failure.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And they're also being very honest with you.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Christine's like that was exhausting. I never want to go
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to another expo. We're not selling the pieces. So there's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: something in this business idea that's not translating to people,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like either let's figure that out or let's just focus
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: on something else. And you also have Janelle talking about
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: how it's part of their family identity and structure to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: have multiple streams of grifting Mormon income exactly, and so
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that's just what they do. Yeah, and so she's kind
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of resisting Robin's idea that well, we should all just
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: have one business. It'll keep us all together and we
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: don't have to go outside of that one business to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: make more money. And Janelle's like, let us do what
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: we know how to do and what we've been doing
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: successfully for twenty five years before your bitch ass came
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: into the equation.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Rabbit, honestly. And I loved how Janelle and Christine kept
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: bringing up their real estate stuff because they literally paid
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and spent the money and time and energy to get
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: their real estate license. And you want them to waste
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: time at a fucking three day expo four hours away
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: selling your ball sack jewelry. It's like crazy to me.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing too that I thought was
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: absolutely insane about Robin is that Mary has a scheduling
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: conflict with this fucking expo. Yes, She's like, I've got
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to go do a banquet with Leon or whatever. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: can't make it, I think to the first day, because
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Leon's banquet was at three and the expo started at
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: three thirty or something like that, I don't know. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Mary was like, I mean I could drive up there,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: but I'll only be there for half an hour and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: then I have to drive back, and Cody's like that
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any fucking sense, like, don't waste the time,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: just don't come that day.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: With the money, because that's going to eat into your profit.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Hello. And then Robin Pipe seven is like, well no,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: but I actually want her there, and everyone's like for
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a half an hour? You want Mary to drive up
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: four hours? Just for a half an hour. Robin's like, yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: because I think it's important because Mary's a pusher and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: she's the only one dedicated and all these other women
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: are lazy ass.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Bitches pretty much what she's saying. Though, then we get
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: into this conversation about how Mary is the one that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: pushes and she like makes sure what's gotta be done
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: gets done. We saw that when they did the caravan
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to Nauvo, and she was the one who like mapped
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it all out and made sure people were trying to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: leave on time and the whole thing. So that's in
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Mary's nature, and I think Robin does want her there
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: because Mary will organize the shit out of that. As
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a Capricorn, you know she will, sure, but she really
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: wants her there because Mary is the only person in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: her corner. Feels like Mary is the only person who
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: actually believes in this idea. Yeah, and we also have
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: at the end of this episode, Mary saying something like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know why Robin feels the need to require
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: everybody else to be a part of this, Like I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: feel like we could hustle this out. I feel like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: her and I we could do this, We could come
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: up with a game plan, we could be super successful. Yeah,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: but she's needing all these other people to be on board,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't make sense to me. And at the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: end of the day, ultimately that's the question, like why, Robin,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Is it because you need to control people? Is it
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: because you need to be the head bitch in charge? Why?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. To me, it felt like she was
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: compensating for something, like she was really insistent on doing
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: this business, so everyone thought that she was trying in
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the family, or like she was trying to make money.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if people were noticing that she was spending
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of money in these earlier seasons, and so
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: she's doing this as a way of like, no, like
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I'm actually contributing to the family. I'm not spending all
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of your money on my friendship. Nails and my ugly
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: like rings and jewelry and stuff. No, like I'm actually contributing.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if it's that, because it doesn't make any
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: other sense.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Well, what makes sense is that she's fancying herself as designer.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So in terms of this business and her contribution to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this business, she wants to be the talent. I'm the creative.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here with my sketch pad and you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: make these cladaw rings and these ballsack necklaces, and that's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be what I do. But y'all have to be
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the ones that are gonna go out to the expos
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: y'all have to be the ones that are gonna be
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: taking care of the website. You guys are gonna be
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the ones who are coming up with the marketing, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit back and be the creative. That's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: why she needs them, because she doesn't want to do
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: all that other shit. She just wants to do this
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: stuff that makes her feel good.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: God told me to make this boob necklace, and I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: believe in it. And she even says in this episode,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like I believe this is what God wants for us. Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I really believe this.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: She says something to the effect like of I pray
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to God to help me learn how to talk to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: them so that way they get my vision. And I'm like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: that just means you're praying so you can figure out
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a way to manipulate everybody into your stupid fucking scheme.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's like crazy, which isn't working and is never going
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to work. And Janelle has a mind for money. Mary
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: has a mind for money, which is why I'm a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: little surprised that she's so gung ho with the whole thing, right,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And Christine just doesn't want to be on team Robin ever,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: And I really did feel some petty energy coming from Christine,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Like I felt like she loved it so much when
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: she turned to Robin and said, well, I never expected
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to give you any more effort than this, Like that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was like that was wild. I love that was so straightforward.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And then Robin's hard job, honey, She's just sitting there
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: with that hard josh, she's so mad. I think this
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: might be one of the critical moments where Robin totally
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: gives up on Christine. I think so too, and never
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: ever ever wants to be her friend, and indeed will
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: go on to try and sabotage Christine in the future.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I think so because of the way Christine is handling
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: her right now.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, I love it, me too, I love it. It's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: fucking awesome.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But Robbin's offended. Oh, this whole episode, she's offended because.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: She's a professional victim. She even said, like at the expo,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: when she's like giving all of her cells pitches and
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: telling all of her stories to all of these random
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: old ladies at this fucking expo don't care, who don't
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: care and don't want to pay over one hundred dollars
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: for an ugly ballsack necklace. Robin's like, yeah, when they
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: don't come and like buy a necklace or a piece
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: of jewelry, Like, I take that as rejection, right, Oh
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: my god, you're not cut out for sales, then.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You're not cut out for business. Yeah, you can't take
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: business personally. You just look at the metrics, right, you
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: look at the numbers and you adjust around that. That
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: says she doesn't she can't do that because she's emotionally
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: connected to the outcome. And that's why Christine would never
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: be able to win with her in something like this,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: because if Christine dissents, if Christine criticizes, if Christine just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't agree, it's a personal attack on Robin.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is crazy.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: We kind of see this and see's in seventeen, eighteen
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and nineteen with some of the rhetoric we hear from Cody,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: while like they never supported Robin, they've always attacked Robin,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and like this is what Robin thinks is an attack. Yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: this is just the other women saying this is a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: stupid idea and I don't want to waste our money
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or like just making suggestions about the branding is
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: something as simple as that, And like Robin can't even
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: change anything. It's still my Sister Wives closet. It's still online,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: it's still Ugly Jewelry. The website is still up. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: think people on Reddit were saying it's still active. Somebody
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: actually bought a piece on there but then didn't actually
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: receive it. Oh yeah, so I don't know, man, it's
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: still a mess.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Well, see, I would have left that expo, and we'll
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: get into what they actually sold, but I would have
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: left that expo and I would have seen it was
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a total and utter failure, and I would have like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: homed in on the fact that people were not responsive
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to the Sister Wives title in their business, like they
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: don't want your polygamy, They're not interested in that. I'm
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: not gonna buy a necklace that represents your specific polygamist family.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. If you want to do
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: some spiritual stuff or some crosses or whatever Mormon's believe,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that's a little different. But what you're doing now is
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not resonating with people, And that's really good information and
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: intel to have. Like I would have left and totally
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: adjusted if I wanted to continue with that business exactly,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: but we know that she's not going to do that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: No, And like Christine even said, like, our prices are
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: not Expo prices, Like all of the other jewelry that
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: was being sold at the Expo was so much cheaper
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: than ours, and that's why it failed. But I think
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: there's a scene, I don't know if it's in this
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: season or a later season where Robin says, the reason
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: why their prices are so high is because it's quality, right,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Like this cheap ass silver that's like really shitty and
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: looks awful, not even shiny, it's quality, right.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Well, she kind of has to say that to get
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: us to want to purchase it. But when you think
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: about it, when you look back at how many people
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: were actually watching Sister Wives at this time, I mean,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: if you're getting millions of hits to that website and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you're getting hardly anybody purchasing, that's crazy. I know, like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: this is generally an advertisement every week that you could
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: be making to everybody to convince us to buy your
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: shitty shit.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and nobody's doing it well. And that's why I'm like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: are Robin and Cody that fucking stupid? Yes, they thought,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, like it would be like an instant hit.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, Cody didn't even think it was an instant hit.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: In this episode, He's just like, I don't even want
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: to fucking do this. But Robin, I think, genuinely thought like,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: oh my god, we're going to make so much money
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: if we sell these one hundred and fifty dollars a pop.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And honestly, if they had done something like T shirts,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: if they had done something like Janelle is doing in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five, just using funny
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: sayings that are said on this show, they would have
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: made a ton of money. I would have purchased that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: for sure. But it's the business acumen, or the failure
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of having business acumen or even just general intuition or
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: being able to test the wins to see what people
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: are willing to buy. Robin doesn't. And this is Robin's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: dumb and Cody's dumb too. I think Cody's willing to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like spend a certain amount of money, but if he
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't see a profit back for that, then he's going
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to want to pull the plug. And which ultimately I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: think they do. Do they end up failing, Well, I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: don't think they continue to pour money into this particular project.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I know it's still a website. I mean apparently they're
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: not fulfilling orders though, But I mean, I don't think
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they're spending a ton of money to keep a big inventory,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: unless unless the inventory is all that shit that he
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: was talking about to the realtor when they were out
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: at Coyote Path and he's like, these are all my
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: failed businesses. Maybe it's the my sister wives closet inventory.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, maybe they did. Maybe they didn't purchase
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a bunch of these looking up.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: All that's so good, it is great. It is so
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: It's so fucking poetic. It's just so ridiculous to me though,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Like this whole expo was a complete embarrassment that by
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the end of it, they sold nineteen pieces in three days.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So the first day, which was a Friday, they're not
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: able to set up till three o'clock and it's just
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a partial day. They sell nothing.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: The second they are out there hustling honey for like
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: eight ten hours all day at the expo, and they
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: sell seven items. And again we don't know if these
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: are the more costly items, these might be just like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: little knickknack trinkets. Who knows, they don't actually differentiate. And
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: then the next day I think they sell twelve more.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But according to Janelle they needed to sell one hundred. Yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I think it was one hundred and twenty. Christine was like, well,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: if we could sell a hundred, that would be great,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: but no, they.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Didn't, maybe the high end items. So we're there and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I wish I knew what these things were priced at
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: way back in the day. I don't know if there's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: blogs out there that talk about this. If anybody knows,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: let us know, Please do tell but like I'm wondering
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: if their high end items are like one hundred and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: fifty to two hundred dollars, maybe they're two fifty to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: four hundred dollars, and so they're wanting to sell one
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: hundred of those and make anywhere from fifteen to twenty
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, or maybe they're just hoping to make
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. But bitch, you sold nineteen items. They're
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: probably on the lower end and people are just doing
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: it because you're the sister wives. Y'all probably made about
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: four hundred dollars after spending all that money on gas,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: having to stay there on Friday night and Saturday night.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: All of that comes out of the prophet heady.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's nothing. They're still negative, like they couldn't
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: even break even. I think they needed all the hard
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to break even. I don't. I think that's what they
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: were saying, like we need to do that to make
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it worth while.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I thought the one hundred or one hundred and twenty
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: was kind of a barometer to see whether this business
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: had any legs. Like Janelle's like, if we don't make
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: this amount, then this business isn't going anywhere. It's not
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: worth and then they end up making nineteen sales, which
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: is just so good kisses from Jesus. What thank you
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Jesus God.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: What a waste of time and like the worst expo ever.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand why you went to Saint
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: George doing this all. Like they even had to talk
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: about the FLDS and this episode did like again.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Well, because they always have to make them solve to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be like martyrs of the cause. And so they're going
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to Saint George and they talk about how there is
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: an FLDS presence here, but of course Warren Jeff's who's
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: been incarcerated for child rape and things of this nature.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, they have a lot of
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: regular LDS and normies down there, and so they're kind
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of like right in the middle and they don't know
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: how they're going to be received, and so it's this
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: persecution complex, yeah, that they need to have in order
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to be relevant on TLC. And people by and large
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: seem pretty normal. Yeah, some people are like, yeah, they're cool.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I think they've got something special here. Then you've got
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: that Karen who's just like I hate them. He's a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: creepy old man trying to wed young women. They're terrible
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: people and made.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Me laugh though I mean it's true, it is kind
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of true, true. And then we have a fucking speech
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: from Cody being like, yeah, it's actually a pretty easy
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: philosophy to justify biblically and like, you know, I'm doing
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: good things because Jesus approved plural marriage, and like I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: can defend it like this is my life blah. I'm like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Just didn't approve of plural marriage. He just didn't comment
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: on it, but I maybe right, so and he said
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: something like, you know, all the coolest guys in the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Old Testament had many wives, and so I think, like
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: we're scripturally sound, and I'm like, okay, you know, there
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was a lot of things people were doing at the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: time of Viticus and Exodus that I don't think we
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: really want to be doing in the year of our
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty five, right, but anything to justify your behavior.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: But he's like, and I could kind of relate to him, saying,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't need your Bible lecture every time
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I'm out in the public. I don't need you telling
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: me how my lifestyle is wrong. But if that's the case.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Why is it in your branding though?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Why are you constantly shoving it in the face of everybody? Exactly?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: This is what they don't get.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: No, they're so fucking stupid. Yeah, Like, I really don't
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: understand it all. And then I think later in this
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: season or the next I think it's this season, and
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: they have like pitches, like sale pitches with Shark Tank
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: people where they value my sister R's closet at like
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: twenty million dollars or something.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Who values my sister Oh Cody values Wait.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: What Yeah, Cody is pitching like Cody and the wives
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: are all pitching my sistress closet to some investors.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Like I remember you telling me that this is going
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's this season. Don't fucking come
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: for me if I'm wrong. Okay, but I know it's
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: coming up. I know it's coming up. But they're going
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to like these backwoods Shark Tank investors, and Cody's like, yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: our business is valued at twenty million dollars, but we've
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: only sold like one hundred and forty piece.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: No way, yes, I have to see this.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, And the investors are like, how the fuck did
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: you come up with this valuation? Like this is crazy,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and Christy's like, well, we get like fifteen million hits
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: on our website, but like nobody's fucking bruisting anything.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be able to demonstrate purchasing power,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like people are actually buying your shit.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And they come with like poster board of their like
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: stuff glued like a fucking class project, like in front
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of these investors to get money. It's crazy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But they agreed, don't they didn't you tell me, like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: they agreed to give them an investment, not what they wanted,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: but grudgingly yeah, okay, and then it never actually was funded,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: right exactly. They just did that for the camera. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: cannot wait, and I bet Robin's gonna feel like, oh
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: my god, we did it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: We're going to be successful. Yep. See I was right, mom.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, like this is a whole like narc business
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: on display. Like Robin is so invested in this. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: feel like her identity is my sister wives closet because
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: she thinks it's going to be successful, so therefore it is.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: And you know that meant that mindset can be beneficial
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: if you're like a good person, and you have hope
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: for like a business or whatever.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: But and you're willing to like learn exactly, and you
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: have some curiosity like how to run a business? Right,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: just accept the fact that you've never run a business
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: before and maybe take some horses, read some books, get
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a game plan, have a business plan. Be allowed to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: be mentored, like listen to other people and what they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: have to say in terms of advice. But she won't
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: do that, not at all. Yeah, this is great. It's
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: everything about this is fantastic.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I love it. We're starting off season six with a
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: fucking bang.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But while they're at the expo, have King Solomon's birthday.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm a snory.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: It's the first birthday of King Solomon. All of her
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: kids are there at the expo, but all the other
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: kids are back in Vegas.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Well because those kids exactly, it's about Robin and her
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: kids and her weird uncle daddy. Oh yeah, is Paul. Yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: comes trotten in. But I have bad vibes from Paul's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: very strange about Paul, I must say either.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: But then when we get back to Vegas, we have
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: King Solomon's birthday and we have Mary and Robin talking about.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Like, are we really still talking about this? I feel
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like we've been talking about this since season one when
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you just marry out for your anniversary dinner and or
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Mexico or whatever, and y'all were talking about it. It
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: is now, see isn't sick? Yep, and Mary still has
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: not made up her forty two year old mind as
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to whether she wants to start again and have children.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: But this is just a storyline to platform Robin and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: her altruistic impulse to allow Mary to have a choice. Yeah,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: because Mary, you gave me the choice to marry Cody Brown,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and so I want to give you the choice to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: have a baby since you're infertile and not a real woman.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I know you can't help the fact that you're not
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a real woman, and I am and I got all
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: this bear Brown, but I want to give you that choice.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: No one you're gonna say no.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more than you. Also does a dig to Janelle
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and Christine because she's like, I've always wanted to raise
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: kids with a sister wife. I've always wanted to have
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: babies with a sister wife. And I know Christine and
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Janelle are old and are done with having kids, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I want to give you the option, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I really want to have a kid with you. That's
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: what she says. Yeah, fucking weird. And Mary's like, I'm
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: forty two, I don't know if I want to start over.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Leon's going to fucking college next year.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're almost out of the house. Yeah, then Mary,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be an empty nester in a bathtub with
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: a banana talking to a woman pretending to be a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: math So you don't want to bring a baby into
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Addie and that. But like, I just feel it's insidious
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: on the part of Robin because I don't necessarily feel
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that she's being genuine here. I just feel like she
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: wants to be seen as somebody who's making the offer,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: knowing that Mary at this time is very conflicted about
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: her actual relationship. Because let us not forget right season one,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he melts down the ring, right, and he melts down
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the ring. Cody Brown melts down Mary's wedding ring and says,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: this way, you can't have any control over me anymore,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: or something to that effect. So Robin is one hundred
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: percent privy to the fact that this situation, this relationship
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: between Mary and Cody is very troubled. Yeah, there are
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: some problems here, so she knows this is not a
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: genuine offer to Mary.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so why are you doing it? It's so crazy.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: It's just for her image.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: She's a n arc.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally for that. And then we have a
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: comment from Christine about Mary and Robin's closeness. She said
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: they have a really tight bond. Yes, and I would
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: really like to have a tight bond with a sister wife,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: but it's too much work.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But the way she said it was interesting. It
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: felt like what she was saying was in order for
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: me to have a close relationship like Mary has with Robin,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I have to do a lot of fan service. Yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I have to do a lot of maintenance and management
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: of a relationship to make somebody else happy so that
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: they'll be my friend. That's actually what I felt her saying.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And it's used to being super petty. Yeah, she's like, yeah,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: because they don't necessarily inherently want to be in a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: friendship with me. It's like, why am I gonna have
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to work so hard just to make a connection that
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you don't want to make?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Right? And she shouldn't have to make so much effort
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: to make a connection with these people, especially Mary when
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: she's been with Mary for fucking twenty years of this.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if that was gonna happen, it would have happened.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: But Mary's constantly wala walda and Christine's always wanting to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: break down walls and scream all the time. They just
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: they don't mesh together. Sorry, you don't mesh together like that.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: They should, I know Mary would probably like that. Yeah,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: with Sam yikes. And then we have King Solomon's birthday,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and everybody makes wishes for him.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, and I don't care, live long and prosper mister Solomon.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: He is a cute baby, though.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: He's a very cute baby right now.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so sorry, but you're.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Not wrong right now. He's so cute, very cherubic.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: He doesn't look like a vampire.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yet, not yet, but it's coming lestats brown anyways. So
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: they release the balloons into the air and everybody's like
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: ooh ah. And then they go over back to the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: cul de sacs. They can remind all these kids, look,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: we're going to be moving in here by Christmas, and
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: this is where they do the gift exchange.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of the older kids are like, I
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: don't care about gifts this year. I just want to
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: be in a home like this sucks. I hate these rentals.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: They don't feel like home, Like my parents are fucking dumb.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I just want my own place, right, That's basically what
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: they said.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, so why didn't hear that specifically? But I did
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: feel that energetically. Yeah, But I just I thought to myself,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: this is so portentous and interesting foreshadowing because what kind
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: of splits all these kids apart ten years from now
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: is the Christmas gift exchange Because Robin inserts herself and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: did that bullshit on behalf of her kids, and the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: rest of the kids are like, we're done with you,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: We're done with them, We're done with this.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is very crazy, but that's how we end
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the episode. It's kind of interesting.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Season six is off with a bank.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: We like it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I love it. I hope we get to have the
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: wet bar conversation in this season.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like we already had that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I think more because the house isn't built yet.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: No it's not. But I felt like we established that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: each wife got an equal portion, and anything above and
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: beyond that, Mary funded herself well, Mary tells us that
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: this year, she's told us that in Lives you don't
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: think so?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I think she did.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: But Okay, So I would love if they continue to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: have this conversation, and I hope that we can learn
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about the loan process prequall to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: full quall and what those loans look like, because I've
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: heard from credible well who's credible and the Sister Wives Zeitgeist.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I mean I've heard from some credible
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: sources that these wives, maybe not all of them, but
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: these wives had something like a balloon loan where they
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: paid interest only, And I think didn't Janelle talk last
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: season when they're talking about the loans that they had
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to do it a little creatively. Yeah, I thought that
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: they did, so that they were paying interest only on
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: these homes and then those loans were to come do
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: after a certain amount of time, which of course by
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: then they moved to flag Staff, so they don't have
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to pay off the rest of those loans, and they
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: come to flag Staff and they do much the same
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: type of a loan with the owner of Coyote Pass. Yeah, So, like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I want to hear more about that me too.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: God, I just want to get into all their financial stuff. Yes,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: there's this YouTube channel. I know this is a sidebar,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: but there's this YouTube channel I'm obsessed with right now
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: called Financial Audit where this.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Oh Caleb, yeah, yeah, Oh my god, I.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Fucking love this show. I don't know why because it's
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: just so great, but like he just goes in on
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: some of these people that make the dumbest fucking financial
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: decisions truly, And it would be so awesome if he
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: can have Cody and Robin on there and they can
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: be like they have a stack of paper, like all
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the shit that they've spent money on and all the
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: loans and all the fucking credit cards that they have
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: because they've probably got a lot of credit cards.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Listen, My vibe is that is this is a house
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of cards, like that their scheme, their financial scheme, their
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: new mansion, like all of their assets, like it's all revolving.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: They're paying one thing off in order to pay for
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: something else, like all of these cars, all the insurance,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: like all the money that is going out in this
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: family is wild, and I just feel like it's going
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to take one thing and it could be our girl
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Christine with this lawsuit with like finding out what the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: financials are requiring Cody to pay a big amount in
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know, arears child support in future child support.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she's asking for anything else, like
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: the lawsuits with Janelle and Mary as well. If there's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: going to be lawsuits like I feel like when we
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: get there, that might shake the house of cards and
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: make it all fall down, Oh.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: For sure, Oh my god. And if it's not that,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: then it's gonna be the cancelation of Sister Wives. Oh yeah,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: And then they have no fucking income besides their cameos
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And then how are you gonna pay for
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: that two point one million dollar? Man?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I have to sail those dollshood Oh my American girl dolls.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: They gotta go, Holly, my doll home, they gotta go.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, are amethyst crystal wings?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my god? The ugly art and all of this
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: my Sister Wives closet stock.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Oh god. I can't wait. I mean, I don't want
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to again. I don't want to hope for somebody's downfall.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: But when you're dealing with people who I think are
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: actually wicked, awful people, I'm like this is just the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: way that it happens. Karma always gets her revel.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Karma's a bitch.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Indeed. All right, well, is there anything else that we
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: need to say to these beautiful raccoons before we get
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: up on ata here?
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: favorite podcast platform and leave us a glowing five star review.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Really helps us grow the pod so we can get
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: fatter up in this dumb so.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: All we want is just get fatter and fatter and fatter.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you. We are going to be.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Back later this week because we were gone for a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: little while and a lot of you called in and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of you want to sound off and you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: have things to say to further the Sister Wives discussion. Yes,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: so we're back on Friday to talk about all of that.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Ununtil then, please do not forget that we have nothing
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: but love for you and peace.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: O my fun guys,