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Aaron Rodgers Potential Trade, Lamar Jackson Discussion, & What Dak Has in Store for 2023 · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: NFL Now is a production of the NFL in partnership
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Speaker 1: another hour of NFL Now, My Patrick claybod Here in
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Speaker 1: the aforementioned news We're bringing you what's coming up this hour,
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Speaker 1: which is we're gonna hear from DeAndre Hopkins, who was
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Speaker 1: a guest on the Pat McAfee show regarding potentially moving
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Speaker 1: spots and leaving the Arizona Cardinals. He does possess a
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Speaker 1: no trade clause and he will be the ultimate decider
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Speaker 1: if he is able to be moved via trade. We'll
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Speaker 1: hear from him coming up. But also we will look
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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position and a few folks and they
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Speaker 1: trusted area playing get paid attention to Aaron Rodgers as
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Speaker 1: the Jets had a contentent fly to California to meet
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers yesterday. This after the Jets and we're
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Speaker 1: given permission to speak with Aaron Rodgers by the Packers,
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Speaker 1: as a potential trade could loom if Aaron Rodgers does
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Speaker 1: decide that he would like to play football in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three. Earlier today on Good Morning Football, C j
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Speaker 1: Uzama was talking about the potential and then Kyle Brent
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Speaker 1: put Aaron Jones in position to debate him regarding the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Just just listening in terms of Aaron, then you guys
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Speaker 1: have someone at the table who's spoken very highly of him.
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean you ask something like that to
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Speaker 1: your team, and then you know, you catch touchdown again,
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Speaker 1: you catch touchdown passes from someone who's future Hall of Famer,
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Speaker 1: You're you're not going to be upset about that. Aaron's
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Speaker 1: he's openly hitting on your girl as you sit here
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Speaker 1: speaking to him and tell him why Aaron's not going anywhere,
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Speaker 1: speak to that. He's a legacy guy. He's been in
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Speaker 1: Green Bay for so long. He's gonna stay here. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He loves it there here everything he needs. He already
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Speaker 1: has his house, all of that, so it's just too
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Speaker 1: easy to stay there. He knows the system, knows everything.
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Speaker 1: Got the like he said, got the young receivers going
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Speaker 1: way through the season. So I hope he's not over
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Speaker 1: there for the Jets. Oh no, no, I mean there's
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Speaker 1: no pitch, but I mean this man was talking about
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Speaker 1: some stuff. We already have two we got we had
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Speaker 1: what the uh year of the year, the defensive Rookie
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Speaker 1: of the Year. Um, you know, we could have, honestly,
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Speaker 1: we could have honestly had two offensive Rookies of the
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Speaker 1: Year and we could have split it between g and
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Speaker 1: and uh and our and our boy real quick. But um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think, I think our
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Speaker 1: offense and what we have and what we're going to
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Speaker 1: bring to the table next year is going to be
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Speaker 1: no matter what it's gonna be, it's gonna be of course. Well,
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Speaker 1: the nodding from Aaron Jones behind the sunglasses, I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to pick out some body language out of that En
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Speaker 1: Rapp report. Mike gar Fullo our NFL network and Ciders
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Speaker 1: joining us now they had the conversation in what's next
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Speaker 1: with the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. That was kind of cool.
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Speaker 1: I appreciated the awkward just there. And it is interesting,
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Speaker 1: like if you look at the Jets offense the way
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Speaker 1: it's constructed, like pretty good for a quarterback just to
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Speaker 1: drop right in there. Like, for instance, Aaron Rodgers has
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Speaker 1: loved Randall Cobb for so many years, and perhaps Randall
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Speaker 1: Cob could follow him to the Jets if he goes there.
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Speaker 1: But they got Randall Cobb it's his name is Elijah Moore,
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Speaker 1: and he's a lot younger. Jets have some weapons, would
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Speaker 1: certainly be a welcome place for him to go. We
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Speaker 1: do not know whether or not he is going to
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Speaker 1: go there. We don't know whether he wants to him.
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Speaker 1: We don't know whether he's going to retire. I guess
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Speaker 1: presumably going back to the Packers as an option, and
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Speaker 1: the obviously looking less likely by the day over here,
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Speaker 1: as Rogers openly weighs other places, this is really on him.
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Speaker 1: Does he want to go to the Jets. If he does,
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Speaker 1: Michael tell the Packers go make the trade. Presumably they
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Speaker 1: would be able to do that, send him to New
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Speaker 1: York Jets, just like they once sent Bred Parvart to
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Speaker 1: New York Jets, and they would move forward with Jordan's love.
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Speaker 1: If Rogers retires, which is certainly possible, then everyone just
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Speaker 1: kind of goes through separate ways. In Jordan loves the
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Speaker 1: quarterback anyway. But as we've been the last several weeks,
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Speaker 1: we were all waiting on Aaron Rodgers, and the feeling
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Speaker 1: we get from Packers folks, by the way, on love
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Speaker 1: is just like we didn't know for sure that Aaron
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Speaker 1: Rodgers was special. When we got rid of Brett Farven
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Speaker 1: turned it over to Aaron Rodgers. We felt good about that.
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Speaker 1: We feel good about Jordan Love the same way. We
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Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but we feel good enough that
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Speaker 1: if we have to turn it over to him and
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Speaker 1: it's time, we feel good. From what we saw last
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Speaker 1: year in that game against the Eagles, he man, he
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Speaker 1: looked sharp in that one. So that's a big factor
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Speaker 1: here as well as is the money for Rogers when
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Speaker 1: he goes to the new team. I had talked to
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Speaker 1: a Jet source a couple of weeks ago before, long
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Speaker 1: before this process began, and it was about that sixty
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Speaker 1: million dollars that Rogers. I mean, that's not a fair comparison.
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Speaker 1: Come on, now we're looking at there. This is something
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Speaker 1: the saddest tale of the tape I've ever seen in
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Speaker 1: my life. I don't even remember what I was gonna
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Speaker 1: say that. It's just, honestly, because Zach Wilson gets prominently
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Speaker 1: featured there, but that Patrick that includes everybody, so it's
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Speaker 1: not all just Zach. Right, dramatic sound effect when it
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Speaker 1: popped up too, you know, Yeah, sixty million dollars, it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. Regardless of whether it's the Jets
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Speaker 1: or another team, that's gonna have to be massage. But
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Speaker 1: Rogers has said in the past that he's open to
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Speaker 1: massaging that number to make it work. One of the
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Speaker 1: things that needs to be done in addition to trade
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Speaker 1: compensation for the Jets, to you know, improve on the
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Speaker 1: right column. Yeah, maybe we'll the graphical look a little nice,
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Speaker 1: or we'll keep the sound effect for you though, Mike
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Speaker 1: also in terms of picks and compensation and maybe massaging numbers.
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson got the non exclusive franchise tag yesterday. How
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Speaker 1: does this process at least theoretically play out here? Well,
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Speaker 1: next week when free agency starts and players are allowed
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Speaker 1: to talk to people. Lamar Jackson his own agent as
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Speaker 1: of now, and I haven't heard that he's hiring an agent,
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Speaker 1: So I just say as of now, because you ever know,
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson gets to talk to teams, a team presumably
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Speaker 1: could sign him to an offer sheet, and then the
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Speaker 1: pact Us would have the opportunity packers. There you go.
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Speaker 1: The Ravens would have the opportunity to match that offer sheet.
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Speaker 1: If they don't, it's two first round picks for the Ravens.
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Speaker 1: They start over with a new quarterback, and Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 1: goes to the new team. But which really interesting here
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Speaker 1: is they have tried many different ways, many different contracts,
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Speaker 1: many different offers to try to get Lamar Jackson engaged
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Speaker 1: negotiating talking about a new deal. It has not happened
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Speaker 1: over years. Perhaps a new team coming in and saying
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Speaker 1: this is your market value, this is where we think
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Speaker 1: you are. Perhaps that gets Lamar Jackson to agree to
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Speaker 1: a long term deal with the Ravens, who would then match.
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Speaker 1: But we don't know. But at least now we're going
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Speaker 1: to see some sort of market for Lamar Jackson could
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Speaker 1: get paid. And Lamar Jackson is not the first quarterback
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Speaker 1: to be tagged and feel insulted by team's attempts to
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Speaker 1: resign him. I go back to Kirk Cousins when he
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Speaker 1: was with Washington years ago, and the first offer from
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Speaker 1: Washington was twelve and a half million dollars per season,
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Speaker 1: which is amazing to think how far we've come because
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Speaker 1: backups are almost making that. But it was insulting at
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Speaker 1: the time, and they made him play out the two
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Speaker 1: tags and he got to a point where he says,
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Speaker 1: I'm so close to unfettered free agency. I'm gonna take it.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what's out there. Lamar Jackson may have
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Speaker 1: to do that. They have to just play out this
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Speaker 1: tag and play out the next tag and get to
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Speaker 1: the point where the two first round picks and whatever
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Speaker 1: compensation coming back is gone, and then it's just about
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Speaker 1: all right. I'm wide open for business. Everybody could And
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Speaker 1: in the meantime, by the way, you're gonna make thirty
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Speaker 1: two million dollars plus one hundred and twenty percent of
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Speaker 1: that the following it. It's gonna make some good money
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Speaker 1: along the way. If that's where you want to get
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Speaker 1: to the point where everybody's at the table and you
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Speaker 1: can bid one against the other. Kirk Cousins had to
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Speaker 1: wait to play all that out. Lamar Jackson, maybe if
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Speaker 1: you want to get to that point where you don't
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Speaker 1: have to worry about anything in the compensation standpoint, muddling
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Speaker 1: muddling the waters, then that's where you gotta get. And
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Speaker 1: perhaps that was the plan, because that's essentially the path
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Speaker 1: of that work. Fine at this point, guy should do
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Speaker 1: that can make the case. We'll see how that goes
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Speaker 1: for Lamar. We'll be back with Ian Rapport and Mike
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Speaker 1: Garrett follow our NFL Network considers as we continue this
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Speaker 1: hour of NFL Now. A couple of quarterbacks that we've
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Speaker 1: just discussed on this list the highest career win percentage.
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Speaker 1: There's Lamar Jackson forty five wins, just sixteen losses, matching
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Speaker 1: the sixteen from Patrick Mahomesh's got a season and a
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Speaker 1: few fewer games missed ahead of Lamar and Mahomes at
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Speaker 1: some of that list with a eight hundred, which is
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Speaker 1: honestly kind of bananas. As Mark Cross and Judy Batista
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Speaker 1: are back with us here on NFL Now, Judy, the
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Speaker 1: Ravens have had all the success with Lamar. He's been
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Speaker 1: able to accomplish some things despite some lack of personnel
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Speaker 1: around him in Baltimore. Where do they go if this
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Speaker 1: doesn't go the way that they want it to? Well,
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Speaker 1: I think Ian just made an interesting point that perhaps
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Speaker 1: this is the Baltimore Ravens attempt to create some movement
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Speaker 1: in these negotiations because they have been at this for
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Speaker 1: at least a year, maybe even longer, and they just
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Speaker 1: haven't been able to get to the number. We know
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Speaker 1: that when Deshaun Watson got the fully guaranteed contract from
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Speaker 1: Cleveland that Steve Bishotti, the owner of the Ravens, was
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Speaker 1: not happy about her. He was one of the owners
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Speaker 1: who actually spoke up publicly about how unhappy he was
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Speaker 1: about that fully guaranteed contract. So if that's the sticking point,
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Speaker 1: there's just not been enough movement to close the gap.
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Speaker 1: And perhaps the Baltimore Ravens are putting this out there
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Speaker 1: and saying, let's see what your market is. Go see
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Speaker 1: what your market is, see what other teams can come
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Speaker 1: up with. The Ravens can always match it and keep
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, which I think ultimately still what they would
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Speaker 1: like to do. This is one of the best quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: in the league. I don't think they want to lose
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but I think they had to figure out
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Speaker 1: a way to create some movement because there was no movement.
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Speaker 1: That had to be incredibly frustrating for the Ravens. It's
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Speaker 1: probably really frustrating for Lamar too. So I think that
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Speaker 1: this tactic at least creates something will happen here and
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Speaker 1: will force a decision. Yeah, Jody, you talk about the
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Speaker 1: lack of movement, and that's been the most shocking part
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Speaker 1: of this development. Lamar Jackson development for me here. He
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Speaker 1: is a twenty six year old guy who the former MVP.
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Speaker 1: We showed how he wins. All this guy does since
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Speaker 1: he's been there is win and produce. When he's on
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Speaker 1: the field, they win. You know, you have a chance
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Speaker 1: in any game that be the favorite. And he is
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Speaker 1: a top five, top four, top three player in this
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Speaker 1: league with his impact that he has had and really
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Speaker 1: has been historic in what he's done. There really is
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Speaker 1: no comparison to anyone else in history to say this
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Speaker 1: is what this young man has done at this point
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Speaker 1: in his career. And you know what, we're not even
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Speaker 1: interested in talking to him. That's the most shocking part.
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Speaker 1: It's one thing if teams were actually engaging in conversations
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Speaker 1: and try to talk to Lamar at least feel it
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Speaker 1: out and see where it's going. But for teams to
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Speaker 1: just openly saved Nope. That guy's an impact player who
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Speaker 1: changes every game that he steps on the field, and
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Speaker 1: we don't even want to talk to him. That's been
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Speaker 1: the most shocking development for me and this whole Lamar situation.
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Speaker 1: Will team start getting in there? Was it attacked by
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Speaker 1: the Ravens, I don't know. The answers, the behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes of all that, but just looking at a pure
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Speaker 1: football standpoint and the impact that Lamar Jackson has had
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Speaker 1: compared to other quarterbacks who got paid in this cycle
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Speaker 1: the last few cycles, who had done not even half
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Speaker 1: of what Lamar has done. I've gotten huge contracts. That's
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Speaker 1: the most disheartening and shocking thing for me in this development.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've always loved Lamar Jackson. Hopefully he will
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Speaker 1: get what he deserves. But we'll see what's happening right now.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't look great, Yeah, and perhaps I guess the most
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Speaker 1: charitable view that we could take fingers crossed as teams
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Speaker 1: are doing some smoke screening, and we'll come out next
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Speaker 1: week and Lamar will have several offers and he'll eventually
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Speaker 1: be paid to his level of accomplishment in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: A's least my personal hope. Thanks to Jude Fatista, Mark
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Speaker 1: Ross examining the circumstances for one Lamar Jackson news coming
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Speaker 1: into the newsroom today, team's making inquiries about the availability
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Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins, who has a couple of years after
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Speaker 1: on his contract with the Arizona Cardinals. The sourcing on
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Speaker 1: that DeAndre Hopkins on the Pat McAfee show. I would
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Speaker 1: love to give you as much information as I can, AJ,
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Speaker 1: but right now, um, you know, we you know, we've
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Speaker 1: just been you know, keeping our head down, obviously paying
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Speaker 1: attention to the headlines and tabloids and stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: because you got to, uh, you know, when you hear
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Speaker 1: some of those trade rumors, how you would hate to
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Speaker 1: think that, you know, all those things are lies. Yea.
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Speaker 1: You know, so you know, I've been traded before and
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Speaker 1: you know, heard speculation about it, and I kind of
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Speaker 1: shoot it off and I was like, Nah, the Texans
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Speaker 1: would never trade me. And then next thing, you know, here,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to the Cardinals. So you know, we keep
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Speaker 1: we keep close attention to the tabloids, but we don't
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Speaker 1: put anything out in the tabloids ourselves. You know, we
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Speaker 1: just you know, we you know, DeAndre Hopkins gonna do
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Speaker 1: what DeAndre Hopkins doing them on the field, and that's
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Speaker 1: all that mattered. All that matters on the field, but
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Speaker 1: it matters to us. Is eing and micro back with
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Speaker 1: us about the future of DeAndre Hopkins. Of the better
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Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL, one of better vets Ian Your
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Speaker 1: takeaway from what he had to say compared to what
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Speaker 1: you know about the market for one new Copkins. First
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Speaker 1: of all, that hat is amazing. I'm jealous. I can't
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Speaker 1: pull it off really awesome, especially post workout. I thought
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Speaker 1: he really brought it. Anyway. As far as the market,
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Speaker 1: I mean there is the rumors are true. There is
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Speaker 1: some interest. I know some teams have inquired with the
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals about potentially trading for DeAndre Hopkins. This has
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Speaker 1: been going on since around the time of the trade
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Speaker 1: deadline last year, which really shouldn't be any surprise. He
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Speaker 1: is a excellent receiver, still plenty left on a team
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Speaker 1: that maybe looking to reset a little bit. I think
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Speaker 1: that would probably make some sense. I hope that's a
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Speaker 1: fair way to sort of describe it. So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think things some teams are interested. And here's what's kind
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Speaker 1: of fascinating. You look at his contract. He's got nineteen
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Speaker 1: and a half million due this year. He's got fourteen
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Speaker 1: nine do next year. My understanding is he is going
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Speaker 1: to be flexible if he has traded, flexible as far
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Speaker 1: as those two years go, not shooting for a top
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Speaker 1: of the market deal. I'll certainly be willing to work
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Speaker 1: with any potential team, I would say, and that makes
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Speaker 1: just a little more interesting. Oh, definitely an offensive weapon
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Speaker 1: that has a lot of value. The Giants get their
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Speaker 1: quarterback signed yesterday. Daniel Jones acknowledging today meeting with the
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Speaker 1: media that there's going to be some expectations that come
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Speaker 1: with the salary. What's the road ahead for the Giants?
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Speaker 1: Mark Yes Patrick, I remember asking Joe Shane about that,
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Speaker 1: the Giants general manager at the combine, saying, this negotiation,
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Speaker 1: it's got to be like, you've been good, but if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hit this number that we're gonna give you,
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Speaker 1: you got to be better. And he said yeah. And
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would admit to you that there's, as he
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Speaker 1: put it, more meat on that bone for him to improve. Well,
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Speaker 1: if he improves, the contracts going to improve with him
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Speaker 1: as well. We talked about four years, one hundred and
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Speaker 1: sixty million. That's forty million dollars per season over the
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Speaker 1: life of the contract. It's actually forty one average over
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Speaker 1: the first two years. Then it dips down, which was
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Speaker 1: to the advantage of the Giants for a three year
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Speaker 1: cash flow. But here's what I'm gonna try to say
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Speaker 1: about this. If Daniel Jones plays all four years, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna make more than one hundred and sixty million, and
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Speaker 1: that average of forty is going to be higher because
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Speaker 1: these incentives are reachable if he's a good quarterback, if
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Speaker 1: he's ranked in the top fifteen, ten five, it continues
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Speaker 1: to go off. As he gets hired these incentives, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna make millions on top of that one six, he's
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Speaker 1: probably gonna get to an average of like forty two,
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Speaker 1: forty three, which is where he wanted to get anyway.
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Speaker 1: So the structure of this deal I think was fair
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Speaker 1: for both sides, and I think it was really smart
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Speaker 1: because Jones can kind of earn his way into that
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Speaker 1: bracket that he was talking about, which was close to
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Speaker 1: the mid forties on that contract. It's a good structure,
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Speaker 1: and I think he's going to earn more than the
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Speaker 1: forty patrick the structure that they came down to the wire,
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Speaker 1: but they were able to pull it off after being
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Speaker 1: in the bunkers and maybe and by the way that
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Speaker 1: was done in the last twenty five minutes, like that
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Speaker 1: was lightning quick for a complicated incentive package like that.
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Speaker 1: Credit to both sides forgetting it done. Well, the culmination
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Speaker 1: is stressful. Weeks of four vessful, coming down to the
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Speaker 1: final moments. Thanks to NFL networking side the Rappaport five
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Speaker 1: Gerald follow as we continue on here, giants have their guy,
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is the guy in Chicago. How do they
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Speaker 1: They've got a ton of money, almost one hundred million
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Speaker 1: talking about wanting to bring in players who love football
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Speaker 1: the Kansasy Chiefs, saw the way they rebuilt their offensive
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Speaker 1: line a couple of years ago, so he knows how
17:45
Speaker 1: this works. On defense, they gotta find playmakers. They had
17:48
Speaker 1: twenty sacks last year, worst defensive football. They got to
17:51
Speaker 1: need to help on the defensive line and that linebacker
17:54
Speaker 1: mark them. Yeah, well, Jeff, you mentioned some positions. You
17:57
Speaker 1: could pretty much put any position there with the Bears.
17:59
Speaker 1: They are and help and improvement with. And look, they
18:02
Speaker 1: are in an unbelievable position, not just in free agency,
18:05
Speaker 1: but sitting at the top of the draft and having
18:06
Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback and being able to manipulate that to
18:10
Speaker 1: get more picks. But for me, this is all about
18:13
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Like we list a bunch of positions, but
18:16
Speaker 1: how do we support him and get the talent around
18:19
Speaker 1: him so he does not have to be a one
18:21
Speaker 1: man show. When I looked at that offense last year
18:23
Speaker 1: in Justin Fields, maybe they had the least amount of
18:27
Speaker 1: talent around Justin Fields, which made him have to win
18:30
Speaker 1: every game on his own. So when you put talent
18:33
Speaker 1: around him, it just makes it easier. So Justin doesn't
18:37
Speaker 1: have to make every play and he can just maximize
18:40
Speaker 1: his potential of Okay, I'm not getting rushed every play.
18:42
Speaker 1: I don't have to run out of here. We've got
18:44
Speaker 1: a run game that I can rely on for play action.
18:46
Speaker 1: I've got receivers who can bail me out and make plays.
18:49
Speaker 1: So when they attack this free agency and draft period,
18:52
Speaker 1: if Ryan Poles, it's all about how do we put
18:55
Speaker 1: talent around Justin Fields so that he can be the
18:58
Speaker 1: best version of himself and see what we have. Of course,
19:01
Speaker 1: other positions on the defensive side of the ball they
19:03
Speaker 1: need to improve as well, But it's all about justin
19:05
Speaker 1: field and making because I see the Pro Bowl talent
19:08
Speaker 1: in him. I believe in him coming out. He saw
19:10
Speaker 1: flashes last year. So let's get this young man right now.
19:14
Speaker 1: Let's go elsewhere in the division. In the Detroit Lions,
19:17
Speaker 1: Jeff a team that was in the top five in
19:19
Speaker 1: offense for significant stretches of the season, at one point
19:23
Speaker 1: had the number one scoring offense in the entire NFL.
19:26
Speaker 1: What did they do in free agency this year? Well,
19:29
Speaker 1: if they played better defense, might have been the playoffs
19:31
Speaker 1: because that was the big issue they had all year.
19:33
Speaker 1: And you look at the back end of that defense,
19:35
Speaker 1: that's what they need to make some moves. They don't
19:37
Speaker 1: have as much salary cap space as the Bears have
19:39
Speaker 1: there around the twenty two million mark. But again, you
19:42
Speaker 1: look at the safety market with guys like Jesse Bates,
19:45
Speaker 1: kinds like C. J. Gardner, Johnson, even a Jordan Ployer,
19:49
Speaker 1: that would make sense for them. At corner. You're talking
19:51
Speaker 1: about Jamal Dean, You're talking about James brad Berry. I
19:54
Speaker 1: wrote my column that a sexy trade could be Jayla
19:57
Speaker 1: Ramsey Brad Holmes, the Lion Genrod manager with the Rams,
20:00
Speaker 1: and no Kid and Ramsey really well it be it
20:03
Speaker 1: would go against what they want to do because they're
20:05
Speaker 1: we're draft oriented, but again, I mean more playmakers on
20:08
Speaker 1: that backg in to make this team more complete, Martin.
20:14
Speaker 1: We'll have an opportunity to see just what they do
20:16
Speaker 1: coming up here with free agency starting free agency Frienzy
20:19
Speaker 1: kicking off here on NFL Network on Sunday thanks to
20:22
Speaker 1: jeffre Chidia and Mark Ross so that the Lions and
20:25
Speaker 1: the Bears also We got a new play caller in Dallas.
20:31
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy says he's in the shower thinking of calling
20:34
Speaker 1: plays in the final drive of the Super Bowl. What's
20:37
Speaker 1: he having store for twenty twenty three? How Boys offense
20:41
Speaker 1: looked like that's coming up next? Dance Dak Prescott missed
20:52
Speaker 1: a huge chunk of twenty twenty two, but still was
20:54
Speaker 1: able to come back and throw twenty three touchdowns for
20:57
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the top five passing offense yet again
21:00
Speaker 1: twenty one and twelve in three seasons. With Mike McCarthy
21:04
Speaker 1: now is the head coach, he will now have Mike
21:06
Speaker 1: McCarthy calling the plays after the departure of Kellen Moore.
21:10
Speaker 1: Dak's thoughts on that this week. Oh God, that's that's
21:14
Speaker 1: excited for for what's next. Always optimistic, No, No, Mike's
21:18
Speaker 1: history and calling the plays has had a lot of success,
21:21
Speaker 1: So excited for that. I know he's excited to get
21:23
Speaker 1: back into it, to dive into it, to be able
21:27
Speaker 1: to call the plays and just to be so engaged
21:29
Speaker 1: and so um. It's a change, but it's gonna be
21:31
Speaker 1: good back now with Mark Rawson, Brian Balden or Mark.
21:35
Speaker 1: So Mike McCarthy's calling the plays. Now, how much does
21:39
Speaker 1: that change the offense in Dallas? You know, I don't
21:42
Speaker 1: think it'll change drastically. You know, Mike McCarthy has been
21:46
Speaker 1: a part of that. Kelly Moore was the offensive coordinator,
21:48
Speaker 1: but Mike McCarthy definitely had his blueprints on it and
21:51
Speaker 1: is advising on what was going on with with the offense,
21:55
Speaker 1: which is lost in them losing Kelly Moore eight or
21:58
Speaker 1: fourth in scoring this year and first lastly, So this
22:02
Speaker 1: is a prolific offense in the regular season. So it's
22:05
Speaker 1: not as if they were a boor offense and you're
22:07
Speaker 1: switching coordinators or play callers that make it make it better.
22:12
Speaker 1: They were a prolific offense. What's really important for me
22:15
Speaker 1: is that Mike McCarty has to get Dak Prescott better
22:18
Speaker 1: in key situations, in big games and in the playoff games.
22:22
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys really have to find another playmaker outside
22:25
Speaker 1: of CD Lamb in the pass game. That's what really
22:28
Speaker 1: what happened to them at the end of the season
22:30
Speaker 1: when they lost, was they didn't have answers outside of
22:33
Speaker 1: CD Lamb and Dak Prescott once again unfortunately did not
22:36
Speaker 1: step his game up to raise the level of everyone else.
22:40
Speaker 1: So yes, on the outside, I'm looking at it as look,
22:42
Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy says this might be my last shot here,
22:45
Speaker 1: I'm going to take it all on my own hands,
22:48
Speaker 1: and I'm going to run the show because this is
22:50
Speaker 1: all on my hands now. Baldy as opposed to it
22:52
Speaker 1: really being a super drastic change in what's going on there,
22:57
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a drastic change or not, Mark,
23:00
Speaker 1: But I mean, in Mike's words, from Mike's mouth, he
23:03
Speaker 1: said he wants to run the ball more, and if
23:06
Speaker 1: they can, it certainly takes the load off of what
23:10
Speaker 1: Dak has to do. And it's interesting, Mark, when I
23:12
Speaker 1: go back and I just review the season of the
23:15
Speaker 1: Cowboys when Cooper Rush took over Week two against the Bengals,
23:18
Speaker 1: and for the next five weeks, all the way up
23:20
Speaker 1: until the Laws against Eagles where they were four and one,
23:23
Speaker 1: they were an absolutely even fifty fifty run pass offense.
23:27
Speaker 1: And you know at that time in those five games,
23:31
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush was sacked three times, so the sacks were down,
23:34
Speaker 1: the production was up, and the protection of the quarterback
23:38
Speaker 1: was up, and all those things could help Dak. Now,
23:40
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to be a fifty fifty run
23:43
Speaker 1: pass team. I don't. Almost nobody is in this league anymore.
23:46
Speaker 1: But if Mike says I'm going to run the ball more,
23:49
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a thirty percent change in this offense.
23:52
Speaker 1: I think we might see it a little bit, Mark Baby,
23:55
Speaker 1: in those bigger games when you get to January where
23:57
Speaker 1: Dak has to step it up, Like you said, Grandson
24:01
Speaker 1: to be saying how things are going to go. Mark,
24:03
Speaker 1: We're also will be back with you shortly, Brian. Stick
24:06
Speaker 1: around because we're going to talk another NFC East quarterback,
24:09
Speaker 1: a guy who just got paid this week, Daniel Jones
24:12
Speaker 1: signed a contract four years could be worth up to
24:15
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million dollars on Mike Garofolo reported
24:17
Speaker 1: today it could be worth even more if he hits
24:20
Speaker 1: all of those incentives over the course of those four years,
24:23
Speaker 1: with ninety four million dollars impossible. I guarantees as he
24:27
Speaker 1: signed that contract and after that. The day after he
24:31
Speaker 1: signed that deal, with Daniel Jones meeting with the media
24:33
Speaker 1: acknowledging his responsibility. You know, I've always felt that responsibility,
24:39
Speaker 1: and um, you know, playing this position, you know, especially
24:44
Speaker 1: for a team like the like the New York Giants
24:46
Speaker 1: in the city, you know, you have that responsibility. And
24:49
Speaker 1: I take that very seriously and it certainly doesn't change
24:53
Speaker 1: and um yeah, I certainly do feel that, and it's
24:57
Speaker 1: my goal to earn that, you know, every day, and
25:00
Speaker 1: you know, in the off season while we're preparing for
25:02
Speaker 1: the season, and then when we get to the season,
25:06
Speaker 1: you know, doing my best and preparing this team to
25:09
Speaker 1: win games and to me to put us in a
25:12
Speaker 1: position to do that. So yeah, I take their responsibility
25:15
Speaker 1: very seriously. Jete Batista back with us along with Brian
25:18
Speaker 1: Balldecker Judy. We heard Daniel Jones talk about that responsibility.
25:22
Speaker 1: A lot of that responsibility has included, through a large
25:24
Speaker 1: portuit of his career, handing the ball off to say
25:27
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. And now say Quon's back back on this
25:29
Speaker 1: franchise tag. It looks like they will get a chance
25:31
Speaker 1: to do just that. Yeah, And actually, Daniel Jones spent
25:35
Speaker 1: some time on that zoom talking about how important sa
25:37
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is to him, not as not just as
25:40
Speaker 1: a teammate, but also just as a personal friend, and
25:43
Speaker 1: how happy he was that they would be together going forward.
25:47
Speaker 1: As for the Giants point of view, they would like
25:49
Speaker 1: to get sa Quon under a multi year deal. He
25:53
Speaker 1: is on the franchise tag. They had had talks during
25:56
Speaker 1: the season that didn't really go anywhere. The feeling at
25:59
Speaker 1: that time was that the Giants were probably offering something
26:03
Speaker 1: a fall of twelve million dollars year and that was
26:06
Speaker 1: turned down. So we'll see where they go from here.
26:09
Speaker 1: But certainly the intention of the Giants is to keep
26:12
Speaker 1: talking to Saquon Barkley. Joe Shane said on his zoom
26:15
Speaker 1: this morning that that's what he was headed to do next,
26:18
Speaker 1: was to talk to se Quon. They want to keep
26:20
Speaker 1: him around, not just for what he can contribute on
26:23
Speaker 1: the field, but for what he contributes in the locker room.
26:26
Speaker 1: He is very much one of the faces of this
26:28
Speaker 1: franchise and very valued by upper management of the New
26:32
Speaker 1: York Giants, and then they can turn their attention. Part
26:35
Speaker 1: of why they want to get sa Quan done also
26:37
Speaker 1: is to reduce his salary cap hit for this year,
26:40
Speaker 1: because then they can turn their attention to free agency,
26:42
Speaker 1: which Joe Shane said they have not been able to
26:44
Speaker 1: spend a whole lot of time on, and they are
26:46
Speaker 1: going to turn their attention that way in the next
26:48
Speaker 1: few hours. Today we'll leave He's Rutherford and go over
26:51
Speaker 1: to Floren Park where they were physically zooming to California
26:54
Speaker 1: to meet with Aaron Rodgers and those discussions obviously a
26:59
Speaker 1: big part of their off season. How much attention in
27:01
Speaker 1: this offseason is directly going to Aaron Rodgers from the
27:04
Speaker 1: folks in New Jersey. Yeah, they're in a holding pattern
27:08
Speaker 1: like pretty much everybody else in the NFL. They are
27:11
Speaker 1: waiting for Aaron Rodgers decision. It is clear that he
27:15
Speaker 1: is their number one choice. Their plan B was Derek Carr,
27:19
Speaker 1: so he's already out of the picture, but it is
27:21
Speaker 1: all in on Plan A for Aaron Rodgers, and until then,
27:25
Speaker 1: the Jets are really in a holding pattern. They have
27:28
Speaker 1: to wait for this decision. And certainly, if they don't
27:31
Speaker 1: land Aaron Rodgers, they're going to have to turn to
27:33
Speaker 1: Plan C and D, because the number one priority of
27:36
Speaker 1: the offseason for the New York Jets is to get
27:39
Speaker 1: a vetteran quarterback in there. You put up that chart
27:41
Speaker 1: before about the difference between Aaron Rodgers performance and the
27:45
Speaker 1: performance of Jets quarterbacks in recent years, and it ain't pretty.
27:49
Speaker 1: They need to land somebody. If it's not Aaron Rodgers,
27:52
Speaker 1: they need to land somebody who is certainly better than
27:55
Speaker 1: what they've had in recent years. You know, Judy, when
27:59
Speaker 1: the Jets released Mike Lafleur, their offensive coordinator last year
28:03
Speaker 1: and they hired Nathaniel Hackett, you just wonder if part
28:07
Speaker 1: of the hiring of Nathaniel Hackett was his association and
28:12
Speaker 1: his working relationship with Aaron Rodgers, because I gotta believe
28:16
Speaker 1: when they all meet or yesterday today, that Nathaniel Hackett
28:20
Speaker 1: is going to be prominently involved in the discussions. Joe
28:24
Speaker 1: Douglas can talk to Aaron Rodgers about McKay Beckton and
28:27
Speaker 1: Olie Vera Tucker and what they're gonna do with the
28:29
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick, and they're gonna mild a massive wall in
28:32
Speaker 1: front of Aaron Rodgers to protect him. And I'm sure
28:35
Speaker 1: Robert Salos talking about Garrett Wilson, Elijah Moore, Breece Hall
28:38
Speaker 1: and all the young talent and all. By the way,
28:40
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball is Sauce Gardner,
28:42
Speaker 1: the defensive rookie of the year. You get to go
28:44
Speaker 1: against him every day. I can imagine this. Nathaniel Hackett
28:48
Speaker 1: signing can't hurt these discussions with Aaron Rodgers in trying
28:54
Speaker 1: to get him to come to be the quarterback for
28:57
Speaker 1: the New York Jets this year. I gotta believe that
28:58
Speaker 1: that is enticing. As much as Aaron talked about how
29:02
Speaker 1: important Nathaniel was and his in his progress in Green
29:07
Speaker 1: Bay and part of his back to back MVP performances,
29:10
Speaker 1: that he had yeah able to facilitate the relationship there
29:13
Speaker 1: with it at the time a new head coach, and
29:16
Speaker 1: perhaps Nathaniel Hacker could serve that same role again if
29:18
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers decide he does want to play football here
29:22
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty three season, thanks to Jude Bautista
29:24
Speaker 1: and Brian Baldinger examining that situation. Let's get to another
29:28
Speaker 1: free agent. It is the safety Jesse Bates who is
29:31
Speaker 1: set to become an unrestricted free agents such a huge
29:34
Speaker 1: part of these back to back postseason runs by the
29:38
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, the question is just how much is he
29:44
Speaker 1: set to get and what kind of impact might it
29:46
Speaker 1: have on the Cincinnati Bengals. To discuss this, let's bring
29:49
Speaker 1: in James Palmer and get back with Jeffrey Chidia. James,
29:52
Speaker 1: you first, how big of a loss would it be
29:55
Speaker 1: if there's no Jesse Bates? And since well, I would
30:00
Speaker 1: go back to what the face of the franchise said
30:02
Speaker 1: last offseason and Joe Burrows saying, you cannot a price
30:05
Speaker 1: tag on what Jesse Bates does for our locker room.
30:08
Speaker 1: He is the one who built all of this. That's
30:11
Speaker 1: pretty high praise from Joe Burrow. Now, the last two
30:13
Speaker 1: seasons they've been unable to get a contract extension done.
30:17
Speaker 1: They've had multiple negotiations, ended up tagging him last year,
30:20
Speaker 1: and if you remember last offseason, their first round pick
30:23
Speaker 1: on Das Hill, a safety. So it looks like the
30:26
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals could sense that this was on the horizon,
30:29
Speaker 1: But Jeff, the interesting part is what this offense will
30:32
Speaker 1: look the defense will look like without Jesse Bates. Because
30:35
Speaker 1: of the football IQ, he has the ability for Luanna Remote,
30:38
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, to change things week to week, add
30:41
Speaker 1: different things, change things within a game, change things within
30:45
Speaker 1: a play. A lot of that funnels through the IQ
30:48
Speaker 1: in the play of Jesse Bates leading this defense along
30:50
Speaker 1: with his running mate in Vaughan Bell, who's also a
30:54
Speaker 1: free agent. So it may look with the loss of
30:56
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, you try to bring back Vaughan Bell Jeff
30:59
Speaker 1: on the backside of that defense, because you're going to
31:01
Speaker 1: be pretty young back there in the secondary, and you
31:04
Speaker 1: know you have a window right now. It's going to
31:06
Speaker 1: be interesting to see the loss of him and potentially
31:09
Speaker 1: bon Bell as well, could change what Lou in a
31:11
Speaker 1: Room can do, which makes him so special as a
31:13
Speaker 1: defensive coordinating. Yeah, it's a huge challenge for the Bengals
31:16
Speaker 1: and for Lou and Room what they lose both those guys.
31:19
Speaker 1: But the Bengals also might lose Jermaine Pratt, a really
31:22
Speaker 1: talented linebacker the middle of their defense to Eli Apple
31:25
Speaker 1: at corner he is a free agent. They still have
31:28
Speaker 1: to work out some things with Logan Wilson with an extension.
31:31
Speaker 1: He's up for that now, so he's still gonna be around,
31:33
Speaker 1: but they got to pay him big money. These our
31:35
Speaker 1: first world problem now for the Bengals, James and this
31:38
Speaker 1: is a defense was really underrated last year. You know,
31:40
Speaker 1: people you talk about Bond Bell and Jesse Bates, one
31:43
Speaker 1: of the best safety tammas in the league. But this
31:45
Speaker 1: defense got it done. They ran sixth in the NFL
31:48
Speaker 1: and points allowed. They were a big reason for this
31:50
Speaker 1: team's success over the last two seasons. But they lose
31:53
Speaker 1: these kind of players, you know, it's gonna be tough
31:55
Speaker 1: on them. In Duke Tobin their player. Of course, no
31:57
Speaker 1: director talked about that at the combine, saying, we want
32:00
Speaker 1: to keep these guys together. This is a great group,
32:02
Speaker 1: a great culture. We know these guys are a big
32:04
Speaker 1: part of what we've been able to do for the
32:06
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Yeah, they got some of these
32:09
Speaker 1: guys in a myriad of different ways. They do have
32:11
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Draft coming up pretty soon. Picks
32:14
Speaker 1: twenty eight, sixty and ninety two in those first three
32:18
Speaker 1: rounds for the Bengals. What are we expecting to try
32:20
Speaker 1: to do with those picks, James. It's a different approach
32:23
Speaker 1: this offseason, Patrick, compared to last year when you saw
32:26
Speaker 1: them making those big splashes right at the start of
32:28
Speaker 1: free agency to revamp that offensive line. You don't think
32:30
Speaker 1: you're really going to see that at the front end
32:32
Speaker 1: of free agency with that Joe Burrow contract on the
32:35
Speaker 1: horizon and where things stand as an organization heading into
32:37
Speaker 1: this season. When you look at the draft, we showed
32:40
Speaker 1: some of the needs down there early and those are
32:42
Speaker 1: the ones I'm looking at. At twenty eight, they look
32:44
Speaker 1: at the offensive line. Remember they had three Jeff, you
32:47
Speaker 1: and I were sitting next to each other at the game.
32:49
Speaker 1: Three guys out on that offensive line because of injury,
32:52
Speaker 1: getting death and planning for the future at the same time.
32:55
Speaker 1: Could be potentially what they do looking at. Maybe that
32:57
Speaker 1: left tackle spot with Jonah Williams being a free agent
33:00
Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty three season, maybe that's a spot
33:03
Speaker 1: that they look at. And then also if you talk
33:05
Speaker 1: to Louiana Remo, it'll tell you he loves corners that
33:07
Speaker 1: are long, and there are a lot of them in
33:09
Speaker 1: this draft. They could be and Jeff mentioned some of
33:11
Speaker 1: the Eli Apple and some of the corners that are
33:13
Speaker 1: free agents on this team that could be a spot
33:15
Speaker 1: they go at the top of the draft as well,
33:17
Speaker 1: but a different kind of feel to this offseason than
33:19
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